#theorycrafting
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fortmaker doesnt speed up the ult per rot and since you're aligning link with laev enhanced skill it doesnt technically do anything unless your rotations are subpar / varied / yada yada
It's correct what made you think otherwise.
Read the convo and youll know
This is for last rite not laev
Moral of the story is just pick Thermite cutter from your selection box. If you someone pick the wrong weapon re-roll your account. 
obj is a pure int stick and int stacking sucks anyway so
Got LR sig 5m later
thermite cutter in shop next week for only 2480
yeah thats my point shuo
trust
fortmaker if you dont have thermite
I already got it pulling for Gilb sig
I just didnt change it cause I was busier with other stuff
We chillin
lol
its choosing between do nothing weapon 1 and do nothing weapon 2
Ur fine dw
how dare you be busy grr
there might even be a third better
Take ur time
U can lose to it
beautiful beautiful
all personal damage

I need 1 more cutter for Potential 5, then I need to chase increase flow Essence for Akekuri. Because the last potential on the weapon or last essence upgrade is 4% more ATK instead of 2%. 
Man fuck physical
Make a LR guide first
and we can even do
probably flame like wulf
aren't they literally siblings and their powers look the same
Would they really do that after Laev so quickly
ye prolly striker or vanguard
Phy is husbando team. 
I doubt they Ellen joe laev
would be pretty easy to
but they'd also have to make content get hard enough fast enough to do it
at least she got buffed... kinda lol
did you guys pull gilberta's sig or skip?
Could be a fire sub dps, one that does decent damage but looks to apply heat rather than consume it. 
I hate this shit so much man
some of us are poor you know :(
Thats true
Could be
go back to the mines
Thats why u only pull when u can get sig and the char
ig ill just stockpile resources
and maybe essence idk
I still only have wnn for laev so
12h an they're gone. 
Like why would I essence farm for this shit
Did u buy the BP with money?
i've got like 3 of these
no
Oof
still looking where to put
Rip sanity
waiting till i max the bp
how fast do you get ult on gilberta with her sig + ult gain set?
Just buy it already
Money BP gives u items to stock sanity
can make ur 12h sanity permanent
know what maybe i should actually build her even tho hate it
Uh its always up tbh
lynx slab truly the nightmare fuel
that's insane then
slabge
Its a major reason of why her sig is good
okay i guess i am pulling and hoping to get thermite as insurance
maybe I'll just ignore its existence
slabge thermitege akekurige stanzage sealsge
cause it's only for rapid ascent
Believe like me
what else is there
Man tf do i even use exemplar for
you know what's weird
panda
Da pan bis
again
Maybe I should just build solo catcher
gilberta's heal scales with intellect and not will for some reason
perma benched
this is the greatest gamble of all
P2?
the actual banner is nothing
compared to this
yeah cause youre betting on something you have no control whatsoever over
I mean true
whether or not they will release compatible team for her
have you ever pulled on the gacha with temporary account damage on the line?
Did Arknights do the game like Wuwa does
as with most things in life ironically
Where they dont focus on fixing archetypes
anyway
But release random shit
Lifeng aura farming
There's a vid of a solo catcher chad floating around
I mean, from a speculative standpoint, she's already insanely good. An with DPS she doesn't break synergy off (Nature for example) she'll be clearly BiS for a long time. But that assumes we get a nature DPS that's good in the short term we might not. 
Bro did 0 dodge 0 cosumbales and heals
Her p2 so close and good tho
But I prob should skip
blueball ending
everything into breach
Lifeng would be nice but not planning playing phys anytime soon
is this fortmaker pog?
Yeah, for now you need to focus on building LR & Laevatain teams to be as strong as possible. An it's not like you're lacking for good AoE options with P5 LR.
he has sig here I think
For me it's more I'm not sure I want to commit to LR team yet.
So getting Gilberta leaves my cards on the table.
whats her/his gear set on each operator?
you mean pulling silverwolf? yeah i got baited
learn chinese 
chatgpt it is
just use deepl ngl
it's funny cause he says thermite in the desc
but the video has pog sig
maybe he is borrowing acc or something
We need to indoctrinate someone into theorycrafting that can translate CN to EN for us
I could I just dont choose to
from league of legend to AKE 
Is there any difference to doing breach with 4 Vuln stacks compared to 3 other than the duration being longer?
the real answer is that there are like
3 sets for this rotation
and they all have perks and downsides
and different recovery in case of you fucking up
you are doing 8 skills per full rotation
so charge requirement is low
but hands requirement is high
to deal with normal things like enemies moving around
tbh, Im curious about that atk% multiplier too, since the phys damage taken increase is the debuff from the breach effect right
Hop on deadlock and your apm and movement will become godtier
I mean, I'd assume so. That is actually what I was asking. Though... 4% increase doesn't seem to be worth it for me having to spend a whole extra skill on. 
even without the multiplier we would do it for the 6s duration
trying to cook up a hard cc team that still puts out decent damage. i know i know, ember bad, but this is a team for fun lol, any ideas to get this to work? in early testing with few upgrades i stagger quickly and interrupt a lot with ember/gilb. ake and perli for damage boosts and sp and stuffs.
Isnt a hybrid phys/solidfication team good for stagger buildup too?
If its dps perlica and/or gilb then ember doesnt do much
Replace Ember with Avywenna 
guys do we know % of probability in etch essence? (very low just doesnt seem very convincing to me)
Is Kunst or Jakub the better dps food?
agreed on perli, gilb i like for the cc specifically, im not as worried about getting a max value ult
the idea is to onfield ember for the stagger and unkillable-ness. not looking for fast kills lol, i have LR for that
Wouldn't Gilberta be out for Ardelia then though 
If you jsut want sustain an better synergy.
what's the diff between top and bot rotation again
who uses the link from lifengs combo skill
she along with ember basically tell people no whenever they try to do anything with the knockdown and lift and stuff. I'm attempting to theory craft a cc team specifically, not looking for big damage or fast boss clears. this is a lil fun project since i have nothing better to do in game rn
depends
a lot of the time i see like chen ult consume it but any of the hard hitting regular skulls, lifeng ult, etc can
question, what even is this team's rotation? (da pan btw)
tho this is Endmin
but their role should be more or less same
phys has a large amount of rotations
Gold tier citromix?
i did not expect gold tier consumables to be already in game
alr, thanks
always start with Lifeng trust
I'm doing a mix of Apel rot tbh
#help couldnt assist, how do I make my Xiranite Pylons happier? They look so sad to be working Maybe a pizza party? A bowl of tootsie rolls in the break room?
depower
just place them upside down
you cant turn off a pylon, they are always turned on
#BadGameDesign
if it's always turned on, how can it be unhappy?
Could you please post a youtube short on how to flip them? I need it to be under 5 seconds or I pass out from exhaustion
I ask myself the same thing every morning
What's a decent total dmg for Yvonne ult?
500k-1mil range
aight
dont be mislead by the big screenshot number

Still tho
Ive only seen her barely hit 200k so far
1m pretty big at low invest
I'm so close to 650 Strength I can taste it
Wdym
Still p0r1?
yesish
if xaihi perlica and gilberta is your team, how are you applying infliction without running out of SP? 
Speaking of xaihi, tell me why the FUCK I can't get a dupe of her?????
Skill issue I fear
or is the whole point of it just ignoring playability and going for damage per screenshot?
You havent pulled that much tho
I've got a P8 Xaihi 
f2p, and and like at least like 5 extra dupes of pearlica and wulfgard
at least I got some extra tcreds and xp from the dupes
I mean f2p or not
The game has designated another character for you to play instead of her.
I've pulled with every ticket and every gem the game has given and completed like 99% of missions lol
just finishing etchspace now
f2p or not
I mean I'm fairly maxed on f2p
Youre moving past the point im trying to make
I'm really sad I got 0 Chen dupes on Gilberta's banner, I wanted the extra power for my gremlin 
Ok I counted, and I'm at 317 pulls
do we need more than 1 team for Umbral? I forgor
whats the rotation for laev, wulf, ake, gilberta team?
Pretty sure we only needed one for umbral during cbt
What I'm wondering is like how could I have pulled more, as a f2p player? Because you said "F2P[...]You haven't pulled that much"
But who knows in the real update
There seems to be a missunderstanding here
I never said you couldve pulled more
ah
I said you havent pulled that much cause a F2P doesnt have the resources to pull a lot
gotcha gotcha
Getting Xaihi dupes over 300 pulls is still pretty uncommon
thank you for clarifying
but like, why would it be less common than the other 5*
And I got relatively lucky id say
Exactly bc its a 5 star
You have no guarantee on Xaihi
Its why people tell people to dont chase 4 stars in Genshin
It could take 1000 pulls

if I ping the gryphline staff do you think they will just give it to me
so does that mean its weird that i have about 390 pulls in this game and have all 5* chars max potential?
ok let me check with my lawyers real quick
Same here
Rng be rng
Me for example
I got P5 Last Rite and never got a copy of Ardelia, Ember and Lifeng
Anyone in here know if Last Rite can still combo if Alesh consumes the stacks, similar to how Da Pan works?
oh damn lol i have 1 of every 6* except laev because i pitied her twice
Her combo does extra damage based on stacks consumed. So itll hit like a stick
But yes
At 3 stacks combo should show up
I mean ofc, it hits like a stick but alesh combos, and estella gets a buffed combo +4 stack shatter lol
My Laev is P5 too
Peepo
Why are u running them together in the first place
Thats just gimping ur damage
bt say you got p0 last rite, with none of her buffs lol
@drifting quest educate this heretic running alesh last rite estella
Good luck ulting with alesh consuming all cryo stacks
if she still skills 4x and combos even without the stacks, she'll ult sometimes ofc
She gets ult back based on stacks consumed
So uh
Youll ult once in a full moon
I know that lol
if they want to they can
I told you I'm bored lel
Relax I was still typing
My main team is phys team, so I'm just meme'ing
if they've been told it's not good from the objective standpoint then let them have fun
who was doing the food buff calculations earlier
He mostly wants to know why its badge/goodge
And ur better at explaining than me
IM FREE
Think we’re getting new gear crates next patch/map expansion?
Like I know how last rite's combo works, and how not burning stacks with it is gimping her lol
Gear crates maybe 1 or 2 for new chars
Map expansion yes
alesh is rng machine
get good rng then hes okay
get bad rng he becomes very bad very fast
'optimal' teams that run him are either shatter who has no one better or rely on never whiffing his rng
estella is just bad, expensive on sp to do the same thing other units can do better
last rite wants to consume as many cryo infliction stacks as possible so wants to spam her skill as much as possible, and avoid sources that consume her stacks (e.g. alesh)

last rite gets a fat multiplier for each infliction stack consumed, increasing damage by a LOT, as well as giving her more energy per stack
@drifting quest maybe you the answer to the actual question i asked tho, can last rite still combo if alesh takes stacks after trigger, similar to da pan
My gear template wishlist: main dps set with lots of ult recharge, slab alternatives
yes but it'll hit like a wet noodle and give her no real energy
Ok
atp why run last rite
I answered this
Yes you can
Her combo triggers when 3 stacks on the enemy
Just use Alesh combo before hers boom
Or whatever Alesh does to consume
Whats the rng part about alesh
I didnt read into his kit
SKILL DESCRIPTION: Opens an angling hole beneath the enemy that deals Physical DMG and recovers some SP. The skill has a chance to hook a Rare Fin that greatly increases the DMG dealt and recovers some more SP.
Chance to Catch the Rare Fin 10%
int increases the odds
🎣
caps at like 40%
Why is OBJ better on Wulfgard according to the Google doc? Just for the ult charge?
The appearance of signature weapons in this game changes at P5? Gilberta's turns red?
I didn't know that was a thing.
wtf is this in wuling no energy and xiranite thingy
one channel down
10% pfffttt
Bro took crit fishing literal
Appearance change at max potential and max essence also
Ah cool, so it's a requirement of both.
It's two different things so you can have either or both
Color will change with potential and it will get a lighting effect with essence usually
whats the general consensus on who is the better ice carry to invest to between yvonne and lr? friend of mine lost to yvonne but she already has last rite and her sig but I told her u can run both at the same team but last rite will be a support
last rite
she also asks if pulling weapon is important or to save
OH THIS IS THE DIFFERENT KIND OF THEORYCRAFTING
any case you would run yvonne last rite hyper is just better
Can someone explain to me why Wulfgard is recommended to use OBJ instead of something like Rational Farewell? Is it just for the ult gain?
wulfgard does no damage relative to laev
so no reason to give him a damage weapon
Damn, that's sad
is yvonne that bad? ik i saw a clip of last rite hitting like a 1mil combo but I also saw cbt footage of yvonne hitting for 1mil as well
So no reason to improve Wulfgard skills outside SP return and gold gear
yvonne has severe gameplay limitations from the perspective of optimizing and theorycrafting, which are not alleviated by current support options
if you aren't minmaxxing wanting to have the objectively best thing you can then yvonne is fine
Last rite
I wouldn't say she's bad just totally unnecessary & quite expensive to get off the ground.
Last Rite is free an can do similar things.
She also doesn't need Gilberta to function.
that sucks then for a limited, hope she gets buffed
Not to mention it's incredibly easy for you to just completely whiff both your combo and burst skill as Yvonne
And the reliance on crit rate doesn't feel very comfy for a supposed DPS op
this is my peak atm with both xaihi and gilberta skills being 1/1/1/1 and yvonne being 6/1/1/9
It's weird coz on one hand I hope they do but on the other hand I feel like they most likely won't
All of this content that's being added has already been in the game since like cbt1
Except for newer stuff like Laev personal story
So I think the real "new" and "fresh" content will not arrive till 1.1
Damage per screenshot
Okay yea, not per screenshot, per short
And if yvonne does that
ok yeah that does look pretty awful lmao esp if thats with gilberta
Why the heck people were complaining on losing stacks on set on yvonne
refer back to the last 3 times we had this conversation
Why is Redeemer Seals recommended on Akekuri instead Frontiers set?
I wasnt aware she did that shoot so many shots
So unless this game saves stats pre hit when casting
Which i doubt it does
I suppose the only good thing you can say for Yvonne's team is she wants a completely different set of supports from Laevatains team. So if you where looking to build a second "strong" team there's no crossover.
unless you're speedrunning 1 rot where there's literally no other choice
seals build loses ~100 int at most, which converts to at best 5sp per combo
seals build gives you far more ults giving more in kit buff uptime, thermite uptime, more sp, etcetc
But there are other teams that can do that as well.
But we don't even have content that requires multiple teams yet just the assumption we'll eventually get it.
I think it's kind of a good thing that they haven''t released anything for 2 teams yet though. Unless you're playing this game like a job & splitting your resources perfectly,
You aren't getting a second team built properly in version 1.0.
Thermite cutter buff isn't as big as Frontier skill buff right? I understand the more ult more SP but I need to try it myself to see how more often I can ult
I'm already on my 3rd team 
atk% is more valuable than dmg%
because of a concept called dilution
tldr the more you stack one type of buff the more value you gain from buffing a different stat than continuing to buff the same stat
Dang, dmg% is shared with heat dmg% etc?
dmg% bonuses are everywhere, easy to get
atk% bonuses are rarer
external atk% i should say
Aight
the atk% from stats does not count in the same part of the formula as external atk%
Sheesh
Do certain types of attacks deal more damage based on how much HP a boss has? 
Bet all your supports at 60 though, even though they could be better an do a lot more for you if they were 80 or had 90 unlocked. Basically just leaving teams at partial investment & not truly completing them.
League
Has anyone tried out that double lynx slab build? I feel like it's better only if you got multiple dupes
Personally I'm going to see if it's possible to completely invest into & maximise 2 teams during version 1.0.
which double slab
there's like 4-5
laev? lifeng? chen? gilb?
no maybe no maybe
is your answers
single slab maybe for chen
Struggling to see slab vision even w p5p5
My Akekuri is level 90, with level 80 Thermite cutter an I don't really consider her complete yet as I haven't gotten her ultimate to TL12 for maximum SP share. I also want her combo trigger to TL12 for better SP share. 
is it really needed to level ardelia/wulfgard for laev team tho? ardelia just gets more healing and wulfgard dmg doesnt compare to laev dmg
(genuine question btw)
i get why akekuri is good tho
literally my reasoning behind leaving them at 60
I've gotten a copy of thermite, should I p1 it or use it on another chara?
just a waste of resources imo
Double slab on Laevatain, a friend sent some CN build using that
Yeah, had my doubts. 1 slab aight but 2 seems a bit too much
Wulfguard likely not, maybe his combo trigger for more heat stacks. But the upgrade is realistically minor. Ardelia's shred is tied behind her battle skill. Also her combo trigger is her only way of applying corriosion to trigger her shred so getting that to TL12 will make her rotations a bit more comfy.
I saw the post. They saying Chinese players discover something about raw stats or something idk. I don't want to make more gear. Artifice too expensive.
ardelia's shred increases based on level? i thought i checked that and didnt see an increase, mb on that
but wdym with leveling combo talent for wulfgard increases heat stacks (i thought they were fixed and it only increased dmg?) n getting ardelia combo to talent 12 will make her rotations more comfy? what does the tl12 change in that? again, i thought it was fixed
it reduces sp cost or smth like that just like in og arknights?
endmin 20sp
wulfgard 18
arclight 17
perlica 15
chen 18
ember 28
xaihi 15
antal 15
avyw 19
gilb 16
lifeng 21
snowshine 25
laev basic 20
laev ult 22
yvonne 17
ardel 18
pogra 20
dapan 21
akekuri 19
last rite 30
catcher 25
estella 19
fluorite 15
alesh 19
Combo trigger at TL12 has a reduced cool down of 1 second on all characters. So if you can trigger it more you get more heat. Like I said for Wulf it's really minor upgrade though.

ohh, thats certainly interesting then
but im guessing its still a lower priority of getting both to tl12 than getting laev/ardelia and the entirety of the physical team's maestries since they all contribute to dmg well enough (im guessing again)?
cuz crown is really capped atm so its kinda pointless leveling them up if u dont have crowns atleast for the moment
6 crowns for 1 second that can be situational is a bit much tbh in this economy
I'd rather just save them for the abilities dealing the majority of the damage
Also for 20% shred from Ardelia's skill you need TL12, if you have TL11 it's only 18% an 16% at TL 9. So Ardelia really does want to be 80/90 with TL 12 on combo & BS.
Like I said you can skimp on investment on your supports an for now it could be argued to be a good tactic.
But make no mistake your teams are performing a lot worse because of it.
so, the priority is smth like
laev whole tree > ake ult/combo > ardelia skill > whole physical team > the rest?
Why is everyone on the Akekuri hype train when we have Angal and hardest content is bosses?
90% of Laev teams I see run Ake over Angal
akekuri is the baseline, best in the most conditions
antal is an optional flex over akekuri or ardelia (moreso the latter right now) for bossing
Pretty much, you can leave Wulfguard 60 an not suffer too much from it since his only role is to provide heat. Akekru & Ardelia demand investment to get the best from them.
Crit rate crit dmg?
high quality wulfgard
She has her signature and everything
🥔
Right set as well
i c, one more thing tho, just to be sure
u actually want laev's whole tree to be masteried, while physical is just 2 skills for pog and 3 for the rest?
Hot work 3p as Crit is not viable (yet?). Don't invest into it tho as more gear might change what's best for her.
Main att?
except if you are someone called yvonne
I mean I already crafted her set so 😭
By elimination you pretty much don't have a lot of options
baseline would be hot work gloves, x2 pyrometer for the 3p
then tide fall light armour
general stat chase is int > str
bonuses like atk%, damage%, etc etc
later on you can maybe look for the charge build if you want it, once you have artificing
The copy pasta everyone has rn
Useless once you get 3p, aim for the higher stats in the off piece
The lil ball thingy
Yes
Wait so is this not good?
Why wouldn't it be?
I don’t understand what u mean by 3p im assuming it’s 3 piece
CUZ U KEEP SAYING USELESS 😭
Oh, it's the set bonuses from the gear. 3 pieces are enough to unlock them.
Yes ik ik
I got the same armor and everything
I just wanted to know whats best for her weapon ball thingy
I thought you meant you got Hotwork armor
Well the weapon essence (ball) is not something you decide
The weapon forces you into building 3 stats.
essences on weapons are just the 3 lines on the weapon
So you roll the corresponding essence trial until you hit all 3 stats.
if you look at forgeborn its:
int boost
attack boost
twilight
so your essence should have those 3
So you are going to want lock Twilight.
And then choose between atk or int boost.
Choosing atk or int boost comes from what potential other essences you will get as you fail aiming for Laevatein's.
I lock these 3 stats and pray to rngesus
🙏 🥔
Don't burn your essences into upgrading Laev's one once you hit it imo
My essences?
There is too few weapons existing rn, you might actually use as fodder an essence that is perfect stats for a future weapon
The ball thingy
U mean etching?
I've only used as fodder HP and Treatement efficiency so far
That is my opinion only tho
yes
kinda same for gear on Laev, might change in the future
oh idrk how that stuff works
The artifice and etching
This is technically me with this game
I just see pretty characters and big numbers and it puts smile on my face <3
You don't
ON GODDDD
Twilight options suck
wulgang with farewell + hot work for subdps
or obj + er for ult spam
Which one should i go for
ult spam
Wtf is even this
Now you choose 3 main stats.
Obviously Intel
Recommend Agility for Endmin
Will great for thermit, strength for Last Rite weapon
what am i even looking at rn
Bro i feel like im in the gojo domain expansion
Having my brain be over flooded by information
Watch a yt gyuide if you know nothing
10min and you're done
But to make it simple, you cannot guarantee what you get, you can only select multiple attributes including the one you want
So you might as well make so that when you fail, you still have a chance for good essence for other weapons
And you use a website for that
https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/
Choose weapon you want farm
Look at the extra shit if there's anything else you want to farm
Go mald for 3 weeks

That part about endmins crystal being consumed not giving 6.5 energy sounds like a bug to me
What do you mean?
Endmins talent with potential refunds some sp
It does. 
Yeah it gives 50 SP.
Not sure about ult energy.
Is there a relation between SP and ult energy? 
Whats theorycrafting ?
every 100 sp you get 6.5 ult energy
but returned sp can't give ult energy
Generated sp can, like from vanguards
What's the better thing for you to do with your characters? What items are the best? What rotations deal the most damage? Hahaha... I DON'T KNOW!
Let's try out things and see.
Oooh okayy
Does corrosion retain? Or do u need to reapply it
Tyy 💕
Ik it like eats away at enemy def over time or smth like that
that's only for sp return sets/weapons. a skill generates energy whether it returns or refunds
Apparently endmins doesn't when they proc their own crystal from combo, with a battleskill
ake skill priority is ult > combo, right?
but i dont see any increase in combo sp gen
Wut
Consuming the crystal doesn't do anything
does anyone know the record for rhodagn?
11.18 pretty sure
Endmins P1
DELETED!
I haven't done the quest that unlock gear upgrade, how many pieces of gear do you need to max out one?
Yeah and?
Consuming the crystal with Endmin skill returns 50sp

refunded or returned sp is not 'real' sp
you have to consume 'real' sp to get energy
Does it work that way for everything?
I thought returned sp was like fake for the next skill use
10.36 w crit
0s
lmfao
idk if its actually been done yet or just theoretical
but its bug abuse nonsense
I've got a question on the wording.
Does Estella Pot 5 only work when she causes Solidification or can it be from anyone's solidification?
I have Alesh Talent here for a wording that specifies who is applying the solidification.
I'm wondering if I should factor in Estella's pot 5 energy gen into my rotation, but Alesh is the one solidifying on my team
nearby enemy
Bruh
is it stew spam avy again
so porbably distance
Alesh's is flash frozen
bug lets you bypass the per stage limit of stew
infinite avy spear
I shoulda ordered that the other way

Is it the same for Last rite, does her battleskill just give 70% of 6.5?
if it says returned / return then its not real sp
anyone know how much damage deep dive triaggelos does on his safe zone attack?
Wait so how does returned SP work with generating ult charge then?
Is it a percentage, or the next skill just doesn't generate ult charge
last rite technically loses the energy too but she gives herself way more anyway
Does her skill give 4.5 or no?
Its fixed not additional
Well if we trust en wording anyway
Nuh uh
What does it mean when people say things like 4/4 or 3/4 rotations?
Ah
How you get to 8 stacks for crush?
Ohh okay
Pretty sure its just twice 4
What is rotation length? I thought rotation is 1 cycle of your team's combo skill
So same combo probably being done
I think same, lets hear answer
@drifting quest
different teams have different rotation lengths
...
and then even then some rotations can be extended or decreased
So on my team
Da Pan and Estella alternate between using their ults to achieve 4 stacks of vuln for Da Pan to crush
Alesh uses ult every single combo skill cycle.
Is a full rotation for this team 2 uses of combo skills?
What do you mean
idk if this is quite the right channel but has anyone done the math on about how much sanity you need to farm everything to upgrade 1 char? rng factors like essence not included
just skill gems and promotion mats and xp and such
You can farm white gather lights
not quite what i'm asking
i want to know how much in advance i need to farm for an upcoming char and how much i can spend on extraneous shit for rn
Unless you talking Maximum required?
yeah that
some several thousand
so like 2 weeks-ish, would you say?
Also we talking masteries and 90/90 + weapon maxed?
if i save everything since the beginning of yvonne banner, could i comfortably max fangyi or whoever when that time comes
Then probably thid
probably not masteries since those need that weird yellow stuff
just 9/9/9 is fine
but yeah level 80-90 for both char and weapon
Yea i have no idea, maybe Wiki Has info on topic?
Should be easy to prepare
no clue
way too early to say
First game had plenty of info on that topic
so no math there, unfortunately
fangyi could be the first banner next patch
longer if you mean to max max
We could make spreadsheet
what does max max mean to you
a full month wouldnt be unrealistic
And gather info for required XP amounts etc
i assume dps is first in banner like laeva but idk
Already responded, skills to 9, 80-90 weapon char leveld
could be mi fu or tangtang
90/90
90/90 weapon
9/9/(4-9) essence
9/9 skills, any relevant skills masteried, any entirely irrelevant ones ignored
all talent nodes, trust nodes, base nodes
artificed gear but thats not tied to sanity
Honestly, if you take into account the T-Creds cost... it might be about a month. 
and is the 1month figure taking into account the daily +40? or just the passive regen
Ohh right, skills eating them like candy
daily refresh plus potentially refreshes from whatever source
hmm interesting
Do we have someone who was putting all into endmin without increasing rest?
You get a bunch from base too over a month
so would you say it's unwise to start building a second team rn ✍️
yes
That would be good judgment
I kinda started to do it slowly
Then i got sidetracked to test stuff
And dumped a lot into xaihi
And it seems i wasnt correct
I might build cryo with fluorite cause resources spent Already
Content i thought its gonna be a bit more challenging had healing orbs
Unless deeper they are missing
I'd say except like favorites/mainmain carries 80/90 is enough
But as deep i got there it was not concern at all
Reminder to do your etchspace weeklies before they reset
ye
they give 5000 metrics
Ehh, but metric rewards don't refresh right?
Yeah
Its one and done right?
My weeklies are kinda smuck
Its future possibility for expansion in there
What I need to do is beat up marble aggeloi 32 seconds less
There will be the map is not done
But for the life of me I actually can't
But the weeklies are pointless if you can complete everything with the first weeklies
Two sections it looks like
You got crush team?
Ohh right, and you can't steroid in there
Team build channel ain't useful because too much traffic
Everyone is talking about meta there man
I wanted to Ask what kind of team i can make with xaihi
Last rite team xd
Don't have her j think
Like shes good, but I need her weapon to make her better
Last rite I mean
Idk how to even beat marble aggeloi faster
It's like rng and stuff at the same time
Using consumable buffs yes? That’s a not so small chunk of bonus damage
Not apllicable
Aggeloi is so simple
Etch space
Ah I see
Wait what?
Triangle was easier lmao
I ain't talking about dodging
I can dodge malenia waterfowl all day but this marble i can't kill 32 seconds less
Ur saying u dont know how to beat him
Hate marbled DoT ground 
Im trying to grt the trim
Then u lack the damage
Is this a weekly thing? I thought we were talking about boss speedrunning for the Trim
Nah I don't lack damage
Atomic please
I lack rng
If its not damage or dodging, how does it make sense u cant beat him
I got confused
Well it’s hard to give advice without seeing a run tbh
record?
It's rng for whatever tf I hit
O.O
272
Bro running Alesh into marble
No as in record an attempt
trims, i could never
Im out of content so....
What team u using
i lowkey can't even trim rhodagn
Laev?
Last ritr
i think my rotation is fucked up
If I was using meta it would just vaporize
Ehh, high investment LR is kinda a boss buster yeah
Nah man we last rite lovers are on bottom
lr team is top 3
Okay now you just talking nonsense
it's like lae>phys>lr or something
I wish we were higher
Lower investment LR is a different beast I feel :p, can’t just rely on a big nuke during stagger alone
have to maintain uptime for much longer
Pretty sure LR is stronger than phys in ST
technically
She's not a cannibal
with prep time avy >>>>>>> everyone
They used to be cannibals in old ak
fckin Batman prep time loool
Last Rite can eat me
holy, physical just skipped dorito phase2
Her spears have a 30 second life though
shits about to get good
Ikr
Stfu p2w
Liar
The truth is harsh ik
Naw
Anyway
how was the reroll?
I can record a marble run if u want
Long and arduous?
Sure, much appreciated
wait a moment
The P4 LR rotation changes drastically due to energy discount on ulti
Will this even be useful
Yeah ngl I might have to farm more mats so I can max all last rite skills
I only have p1
Pretty sure it doesnt
@drifting quest does it
ehh. It can change drastically
p4 assumption
Cant say ive ever looked at p4 second rot lr
on non uprate
I need my cryo priestess to be p1
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV17ycFzjEVP
the setup for it tho might be cooked
My cryo amp ain't even p1 so I'm missing out on a little bit more damage ngl
Well if you are still doing a Xaihi LR LR 2x rotation
Omg u can dodge out of combo 😭
It should be identical to a P0 LR rotation
Wtf
Yes
how did it take this long LOL
Rotation my butt
currently my sims suggest that no ult spam is 30% stronger than hotworks
my theory is that the true endfield are the friends we made along the way 🥹
that’s what I mean, high investment LR seeks to one rotation the boss LOL
I actually don't understand how to rotate lol
@tight haven you might wanna see this shit
Is there like 0 merit to support auto attacks?
Low investment LR is a different beast beast
whar
go full ult spam for now
My theory is to bomb the infected
or do off field characters not use the multipliers of basic attack?
its 30% stronger for forgevorn currently
doesnt matter much, high investment/pot lr team doesnt even need to ult unless multiple phases
Ehh?? It’s just Xaihi LR LR combo skill spam
Repeat the above, now Xaihi and LR have ult, so ult dump
That’s the rotation
Im not from Ursus I swear
oh
That's a good idea
gawdammn
yeah this feels right
idk what magic was done in my sims, but currently its unfair for the no ult spam since raizer added an N4 for the ult window on ult spam, compared to normal rots
especially at p5

i end up not doing any ebskills during ult
lowkey
because the batks just hit way harder
I think peppercat died
Does that link for team gear and such here not list Gilberta bp weapon as an option for any particular reason ?
It sucks
it sucks
like a lot
just use stanza
It can work but it works in exactly 1 team with miserable uptime
Yeah I know… if you are getting to P4 you are mega invested anyways and can just aim to burst
i wonder if anyone has done testing for like f2p shit investment LR LOL
Stanzage
F2p shit investment?
Oh that’s unfortunate 😩
My f2p bum can't even figure out what I'm doing for Lr
I swear I have all the wrong things
All 3 bp weapons are pretty miserable
keep the combo skill rolling and good things will happen to you
Navigator is the closest to being decent
Is it that she doesn’t inflict nature affliction enough?
I don't believe that
Or that it’s too aoe focused ?
Gandalf
I feel like I recognise that wizard Gandalf PfP
Gandalf is saying I shall not pass
okay lets see time now
Ancient Bennett wizard with the 20ft neck beard
Peppercat still hasn't responded with it
i'm talking my time
o7
Okay guys, time for me to max out my 2nd last rite skill lmao
I had it commissioned after that description led to a ccer getting banned from a genshin server like 3 years ago 🤣
It was a theorycrafting channel in another game and I can’t remember which one LOL
193
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hmmm is that slower than before? or same?
A genshin server 
Yeah haha
it was yeaaars ago
Crit is bad in general unless synergy in kit tbh
The base crit damage is only 50% and it’s hard to stack bonuses for crit, there is no crit set yet
it works fine in specific lenght of battle
Yet
If a true crit set drops it’ll change for sure
There’s also an emoji on my server uh looks like this but very small lol
ones that arent that long for multiple rotations, and ones that arent one combo and done
Future support set could just give something other than dmg%
so overworld non stamina battles it feels fine, set for crush is powerful deletes but you run out of dps
And is a lot more consistent than crit
Can I delete marble so I can get on with my day
no
no
no, i'm talking dmg output
32 seconds man

if battle is single crush combo + attacks
Though you can delete marble phase 1, no one likes phase 1
like basic attacks
because you cannot kill all with single crush
then crit clears such battle faster
Can I just ult the first tentacles i see





