#theorycrafting

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midnight stirrup
drifting quest
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fortmaker doesnt speed up the ult per rot and since you're aligning link with laev enhanced skill it doesnt technically do anything unless your rotations are subpar / varied / yada yada

valid zealot
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It's correct what made you think otherwise.

midnight stirrup
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Read the convo and youll know

valid zealot
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Kay.

drifting quest
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the same should apply

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if not worse

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since last rite refunds sp

daring dove
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Moral of the story is just pick Thermite cutter from your selection box. If you someone pick the wrong weapon re-roll your account. 091_Run

midnight stirrup
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I picked that claymore

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bc I didnt have LR sig

drifting quest
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obj is a pure int stick and int stacking sucks anyway so

midnight stirrup
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Got LR sig 5m later

drifting quest
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fortmaker it up

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for lr

heady pine
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thermite cutter in shop next week for only 2480

amber vapor
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yeah thats my point shuo

heady pine
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trust

amber vapor
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fortmaker if you dont have thermite

midnight stirrup
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I already got it pulling for Gilb sig

twilit quail
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I just didnt change it cause I was busier with other stuff

midnight stirrup
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We chillin

twilit quail
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lol

drifting quest
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its choosing between do nothing weapon 1 and do nothing weapon 2

midnight stirrup
amber vapor
drifting quest
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there might even be a third better

midnight stirrup
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Take ur time

next helm
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Would I grab a 3rd thermite cutter

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If it did show up in shop

midnight stirrup
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Nah save weapon pulls

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Thermite is bound to be powercrept

twilit quail
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I think I unironically might finish the phys stuff tmw

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we have a

midnight stirrup
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U can lose to it

twilit quail
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beautiful beautiful

drifting quest
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all personal damage

twilit quail
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0 charge endmin 4/3/4

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Im looking forward to making the graphic for that one

next helm
daring dove
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I need 1 more cutter for Potential 5, then I need to chase increase flow Essence for Akekuri. Because the last potential on the weapon or last essence upgrade is 4% more ATK instead of 2%. sadcat

midnight stirrup
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Make a LR guide first

twilit quail
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and we can even do

twilit quail
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3x pulse pog

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it's so nice

midnight stirrup
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Praying Rossi is physical

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Rossi Pog would be fun

brisk summit
midnight stirrup
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Meh

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Too predictable

brisk summit
midnight stirrup
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Would they really do that after Laev so quickly

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
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when we lack phys dps

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and electric dps

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and nature dps

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for that matter

daring dove
midnight stirrup
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Not for long

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🙈

heady pine
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I doubt they Ellen joe laev

drifting quest
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would be pretty easy to

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but they'd also have to make content get hard enough fast enough to do it

midnight stirrup
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It doesnt make sense to drop a new fire dps so quickly

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imo

rugged kiln
drifting quest
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haha buffed

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just once

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surely

rugged kiln
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did you guys pull gilberta's sig or skip?

midnight stirrup
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pulled

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i dont play with copium non sig weapons

daring dove
amber vapor
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I hate this shit so much man

rugged kiln
rugged kiln
midnight stirrup
amber vapor
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ig ill just stockpile resources

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and maybe essence idk

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I still only have wnn for laev so

midnight stirrup
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I still havent gotten my LR essence

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Im about to tweak

daring dove
amber vapor
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Like why would I essence farm for this shit

midnight stirrup
umbral walrus
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
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Oof

umbral walrus
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still looking where to put

midnight stirrup
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Rip sanity

amber vapor
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waiting till i max the bp

rugged kiln
midnight stirrup
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Just buy it already

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Money BP gives u items to stock sanity

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can make ur 12h sanity permanent

twilit quail
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fuck and I still have to math out

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lynx slab chen

amber vapor
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know what maybe i should actually build her even tho hate it

twilit quail
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god damn it

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I forgot about that

midnight stirrup
woeful plume
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lynx slab truly the nightmare fuel

twilit quail
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i hate it

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i hate it so much

manic blade
rugged kiln
drifting quest
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slabge

midnight stirrup
rugged kiln
twilit quail
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maybe I'll just ignore its existence

drifting quest
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slabge thermitege akekurige stanzage sealsge

twilit quail
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cause it's only for rapid ascent

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
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what else is there

midnight stirrup
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@twilit quail Iana my gilb is p1. Should I get p2

amber vapor
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Man tf do i even use exemplar for

rugged kiln
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you know what's weird

drifting quest
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panda

midnight stirrup
twilit quail
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again

amber vapor
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Maybe I should just build solo catcher

rugged kiln
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gilberta's heal scales with intellect and not will for some reason

twilit quail
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speculating on how useful she is in the future

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this

amber vapor
twilit quail
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this is the greatest gamble of all

midnight stirrup
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P2?

twilit quail
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the actual banner is nothing

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compared to this

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yeah cause youre betting on something you have no control whatsoever over

midnight stirrup
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I mean true

twilit quail
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whether or not they will release compatible team for her

drifting quest
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have you ever pulled on the gacha with temporary account damage on the line?

midnight stirrup
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Did Arknights do the game like Wuwa does

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
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Where they dont focus on fixing archetypes

twilit quail
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anyway

midnight stirrup
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But release random shit

twilit quail
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it's so good

midnight stirrup
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Lifeng aura farming

amber vapor
daring dove
amber vapor
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Bro did 0 dodge 0 cosumbales and heals

drifting quest
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didnt even fully kill the boss

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smh

midnight stirrup
thorn shore
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i got a fakeout p2 pogPerliDerp

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kms

midnight stirrup
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But I prob should skip

midnight stirrup
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I already got p5 LR

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I dont want diff shit

twilit quail
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I mean

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that's the rotation

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that's the end

amber vapor
twilit quail
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everything into breach

midnight stirrup
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Lifeng would be nice but not planning playing phys anytime soon

daring dove
# midnight stirrup I already got p5 LR

Yeah, for now you need to focus on building LR & Laevatain teams to be as strong as possible. An it's not like you're lacking for good AoE options with P5 LR.

twilit quail
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he has sig here I think

daring dove
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For me it's more I'm not sure I want to commit to LR team yet.

twilit quail
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yes thermite would be better

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I assume they just didnt get dupes on it

daring dove
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So getting Gilberta leaves my cards on the table.

rugged kiln
twilit quail
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it'll be on my sheet tmw

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the gear for 4/3/4 and 4/2/4

amber vapor
twin wolf
amber vapor
twilit quail
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it's funny cause he says thermite in the desc

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but the video has pog sig

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maybe he is borrowing acc or something

amber vapor
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We need to indoctrinate someone into theorycrafting that can translate CN to EN for us

twilit quail
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I could I just dont choose to

twin wolf
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from league of legend to AKE PerliDerp

lime nacelle
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Is there any difference to doing breach with 4 Vuln stacks compared to 3 other than the duration being longer?

amber vapor
twilit quail
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the real answer is that there are like

twilit quail
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3 sets for this rotation

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and they all have perks and downsides

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and different recovery in case of you fucking up

lime nacelle
# ocean hawk

ATK% multiplier is how much damage the Breach does, yes?

twilit quail
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you are doing 8 skills per full rotation

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so charge requirement is low

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but hands requirement is high

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to deal with normal things like enemies moving around

ocean hawk
amber vapor
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Hop on deadlock and your apm and movement will become godtier

lime nacelle
twilit quail
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even without the multiplier we would do it for the 6s duration

dire owl
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trying to cook up a hard cc team that still puts out decent damage. i know i know, ember bad, but this is a team for fun lol, any ideas to get this to work? in early testing with few upgrades i stagger quickly and interrupt a lot with ember/gilb. ake and perli for damage boosts and sp and stuffs.

drifting quest
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Just run a bad physical team

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Like if its dps ember perlica gilb dont do much

amber vapor
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Isnt a hybrid phys/solidfication team good for stagger buildup too?

drifting quest
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If its dps perlica and/or gilb then ember doesnt do much

vapid pecan
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guys do we know % of probability in etch essence? (very low just doesnt seem very convincing to me)

plucky warren
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Is Kunst or Jakub the better dps food?

dire owl
dire owl
daring dove
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If you jsut want sustain an better synergy.

lime bear
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what's the diff between top and bot rotation again

heady pine
dire owl
drifting quest
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a lot of the time i see like chen ult consume it but any of the hard hitting regular skulls, lifeng ult, etc can

shut cobalt
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question, what even is this team's rotation? (da pan btw)

lime bear
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tho this is Endmin

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but their role should be more or less same

drifting quest
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phys has a large amount of rotations

summer flower
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Gold tier citromix?

drifting quest
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iana is doing a detailed writeup

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you can wait for that

summer flower
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i did not expect gold tier consumables to be already in game

shut cobalt
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alr, thanks

summer flower
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wait no

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spray is gold tier nvm

lime bear
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I'm doing a mix of Apel rot tbh

lime bear
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pretty good

naive urchin
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#help couldnt assist, how do I make my Xiranite Pylons happier? They look so sad to be working Maybe a pizza party? A bowl of tootsie rolls in the break room?

summer flicker
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just place them upside down

naive urchin
lime nacelle
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#BadGameDesign

umbral walrus
naive urchin
naive urchin
fading fog
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What's a decent total dmg for Yvonne ult?

drifting quest
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500k-1mil range

fading fog
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aight

midnight stirrup
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Zamn

drifting quest
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dont be mislead by the big screenshot number

outer ermine
midnight stirrup
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Ive only seen her barely hit 200k so far

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1m pretty big at low invest

drifting quest
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low invest

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clueless

naive urchin
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I'm so close to 650 Strength I can taste it

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
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1mil yvonne is like

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giga premium

midnight stirrup
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Still p0r1?

drifting quest
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yesish

midnight stirrup
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Zamn

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Whats the premium then

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I assume gilb with sig

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What else

drifting quest
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xaihi with 6* weapon

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perlica with 6* weapon

midnight stirrup
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What weapon perl be running

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I assume xaihi det

fading fog
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if xaihi perlica and gilberta is your team, how are you applying infliction without running out of SP? PerliFumo

naive urchin
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Speaking of xaihi, tell me why the FUCK I can't get a dupe of her?????

midnight stirrup
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Skill issue I fear

fading fog
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or is the whole point of it just ignoring playability and going for damage per screenshot?

midnight stirrup
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You havent pulled that much tho

fading fog
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I've got a P8 Xaihi PerliDerp

naive urchin
fading fog
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at least I got some extra tcreds and xp from the dupes

lime nacelle
midnight stirrup
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You havent pulled that much

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It isnt surprising u still havent ran into her

naive urchin
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I've pulled with every ticket and every gem the game has given and completed like 99% of missions lol

midnight stirrup
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Yea thats not a lot

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I pulled 760 times

naive urchin
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just finishing etchspace now

midnight stirrup
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Didnt get Xaihi P5 till like 500

naive urchin
midnight stirrup
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Youre moving past the point im trying to make

fading fog
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I'm really sad I got 0 Chen dupes on Gilberta's banner, I wanted the extra power for my gremlin ChenCry

naive urchin
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Ok I counted, and I'm at 317 pulls

fading fog
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do we need more than 1 team for Umbral? I forgor

viscid berry
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whats the rotation for laev, wulf, ake, gilberta team?

heady pine
naive urchin
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What I'm wondering is like how could I have pulled more, as a f2p player? Because you said "F2P[...]You haven't pulled that much"

heady pine
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But who knows in the real update

midnight stirrup
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I never said you couldve pulled more

naive urchin
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ah

midnight stirrup
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I said you havent pulled that much cause a F2P doesnt have the resources to pull a lot

naive urchin
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gotcha gotcha

midnight stirrup
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Getting Xaihi dupes over 300 pulls is still pretty uncommon

naive urchin
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thank you for clarifying

midnight stirrup
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Like I said

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It took me like 500 ish pulls to P5 her

naive urchin
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but like, why would it be less common than the other 5*

midnight stirrup
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And I got relatively lucky id say

midnight stirrup
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You have no guarantee on Xaihi

naive urchin
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but i want it

midnight stirrup
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Its why people tell people to dont chase 4 stars in Genshin

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It could take 1000 pulls

naive urchin
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if I ping the gryphline staff do you think they will just give it to me

midnight stirrup
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Yes

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I support this decision

viscid berry
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so does that mean its weird that i have about 390 pulls in this game and have all 5* chars max potential?

naive urchin
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ok let me check with my lawyers real quick

midnight stirrup
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Me for example

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I got P5 Last Rite and never got a copy of Ardelia, Ember and Lifeng

lunar sleet
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Anyone in here know if Last Rite can still combo if Alesh consumes the stacks, similar to how Da Pan works?

viscid berry
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oh damn lol i have 1 of every 6* except laev because i pitied her twice

midnight stirrup
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But yes

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At 3 stacks combo should show up

lunar sleet
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I mean ofc, it hits like a stick but alesh combos, and estella gets a buffed combo +4 stack shatter lol

midnight stirrup
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Peepo

midnight stirrup
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Thats just gimping ur damage

lunar sleet
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Because "m bored

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Lol

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I'm curious if it actually gimps teh dmg

midnight stirrup
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Either run LR HC or Shatter

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It does and its pretty obvious

lunar sleet
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Yeah

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?

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I mean I could see wanting to go through LR when you're gonna Ult, sure

midnight stirrup
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I suck at explaining

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Hollon

lunar sleet
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bt say you got p0 last rite, with none of her buffs lol

midnight stirrup
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@drifting quest educate this heretic running alesh last rite estella

neon zephyr
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Good luck ulting with alesh consuming all cryo stacks

lunar sleet
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if she still skills 4x and combos even without the stacks, she'll ult sometimes ofc

midnight stirrup
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She gets ult back based on stacks consumed

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So uh

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Youll ult once in a full moon

lunar sleet
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I know that lol

lunar sleet
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I told you I'm bored lel

midnight stirrup
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Relax I was still typing

lunar sleet
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My main team is phys team, so I'm just meme'ing

drifting quest
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if they've been told it's not good from the objective standpoint then let them have fun

torn hound
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who was doing the food buff calculations earlier

lunar sleet
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I made a team to spam arclight skill/combo

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so now I'm just messing with this lol

midnight stirrup
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And ur better at explaining than me

oak sorrel
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IM FREE

neon zephyr
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Think we’re getting new gear crates next patch/map expansion?

lunar sleet
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Like I know how last rite's combo works, and how not burning stacks with it is gimping her lol

midnight stirrup
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Map expansion yes

drifting quest
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alesh is rng machine
get good rng then hes okay
get bad rng he becomes very bad very fast

'optimal' teams that run him are either shatter who has no one better or rely on never whiffing his rng

estella is just bad, expensive on sp to do the same thing other units can do better

last rite wants to consume as many cryo infliction stacks as possible so wants to spam her skill as much as possible, and avoid sources that consume her stacks (e.g. alesh)

oak sorrel
drifting quest
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last rite gets a fat multiplier for each infliction stack consumed, increasing damage by a LOT, as well as giving her more energy per stack

lunar sleet
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@drifting quest maybe you the answer to the actual question i asked tho, can last rite still combo if alesh takes stacks after trigger, similar to da pan

neon zephyr
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My gear template wishlist: main dps set with lots of ult recharge, slab alternatives

drifting quest
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yes but it'll hit like a wet noodle and give her no real energy

lunar sleet
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Ok

drifting quest
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atp why run last rite

midnight stirrup
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Yes you can

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Her combo triggers when 3 stacks on the enemy

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Just use Alesh combo before hers boom

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Or whatever Alesh does to consume

midnight stirrup
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I didnt read into his kit

drifting quest
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SKILL DESCRIPTION: Opens an angling hole beneath the enemy that deals Physical DMG and recovers some SP. The skill has a chance to hook a Rare Fin that greatly increases the DMG dealt and recovers some more SP.

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Chance to Catch the Rare Fin 10%

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int increases the odds

lime nacelle
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🎣

drifting quest
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caps at like 40%

teal kelp
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Why is OBJ better on Wulfgard according to the Google doc? Just for the ult charge?

daring dove
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The appearance of signature weapons in this game changes at P5? Gilberta's turns red?

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I didn't know that was a thing.

night lagoon
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wtf is this in wuling no energy and xiranite thingy

mystic halo
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one channel down

midnight stirrup
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Bro took crit fishing literal

neat snow
daring dove
neat snow
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It's two different things so you can have either or both

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Color will change with potential and it will get a lighting effect with essence usually

night lagoon
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wait did i sent it in wrong channel

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fk

sinful mesa
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whats the general consensus on who is the better ice carry to invest to between yvonne and lr? friend of mine lost to yvonne but she already has last rite and her sig but I told her u can run both at the same team but last rite will be a support

drifting quest
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last rite

sinful mesa
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she also asks if pulling weapon is important or to save

shut cargo
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OH THIS IS THE DIFFERENT KIND OF THEORYCRAFTING

drifting quest
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any case you would run yvonne last rite hyper is just better

teal kelp
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Can someone explain to me why Wulfgard is recommended to use OBJ instead of something like Rational Farewell? Is it just for the ult gain?

drifting quest
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wulfgard does no damage relative to laev

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so no reason to give him a damage weapon

teal kelp
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Damn, that's sad

sinful mesa
teal kelp
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So no reason to improve Wulfgard skills outside SP return and gold gear

drifting quest
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yvonne has severe gameplay limitations from the perspective of optimizing and theorycrafting, which are not alleviated by current support options

if you aren't minmaxxing wanting to have the objectively best thing you can then yvonne is fine

daring dove
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Last Rite is free an can do similar things.

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She also doesn't need Gilberta to function.

sinful mesa
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that sucks then for a limited, hope she gets buffed

amber vapor
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Not to mention it's incredibly easy for you to just completely whiff both your combo and burst skill as Yvonne

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And the reliance on crit rate doesn't feel very comfy for a supposed DPS op

fading fog
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this is my peak atm with both xaihi and gilberta skills being 1/1/1/1 and yvonne being 6/1/1/9

amber vapor
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All of this content that's being added has already been in the game since like cbt1

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Except for newer stuff like Laev personal story

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So I think the real "new" and "fresh" content will not arrive till 1.1

summer flower
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Okay yea, not per screenshot, per short

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And if yvonne does that

sinful mesa
summer flower
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Why the heck people were complaining on losing stacks on set on yvonne

drifting quest
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refer back to the last 3 times we had this conversation

teal kelp
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Why is Redeemer Seals recommended on Akekuri instead Frontiers set?

summer flower
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I wasnt aware she did that shoot so many shots

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So unless this game saves stats pre hit when casting

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Which i doubt it does

daring dove
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I suppose the only good thing you can say for Yvonne's team is she wants a completely different set of supports from Laevatains team. So if you where looking to build a second "strong" team there's no crossover.

drifting quest
daring dove
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But there are other teams that can do that as well.

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But we don't even have content that requires multiple teams yet just the assumption we'll eventually get it.

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I think it's kind of a good thing that they haven''t released anything for 2 teams yet though. Unless you're playing this game like a job & splitting your resources perfectly,

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You aren't getting a second team built properly in version 1.0.

teal kelp
fading fog
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I'm already on my 3rd team PerliFumo

drifting quest
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atk% is more valuable than dmg%

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because of a concept called dilution

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tldr the more you stack one type of buff the more value you gain from buffing a different stat than continuing to buff the same stat

teal kelp
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Dang, dmg% is shared with heat dmg% etc?

drifting quest
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dmg% bonuses are everywhere, easy to get
atk% bonuses are rarer

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external atk% i should say

teal kelp
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Aight

drifting quest
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the atk% from stats does not count in the same part of the formula as external atk%

teal kelp
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Sheesh

vagrant sparrow
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im bored

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which other game yall play

lime nacelle
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Do certain types of attacks deal more damage based on how much HP a boss has? ASpikaThink

daring dove
balmy jay
teal kelp
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Has anyone tried out that double lynx slab build? I feel like it's better only if you got multiple dupes

daring dove
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Personally I'm going to see if it's possible to completely invest into & maximise 2 teams during version 1.0.

drifting quest
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which double slab

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there's like 4-5

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laev? lifeng? chen? gilb?

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no maybe no maybe

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is your answers

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single slab maybe for chen

manic blade
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Struggling to see slab vision even w p5p5

daring dove
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My Akekuri is level 90, with level 80 Thermite cutter an I don't really consider her complete yet as I haven't gotten her ultimate to TL12 for maximum SP share. I also want her combo trigger to TL12 for better SP share. 108_yaehmm

shut cobalt
fading fog
broken shale
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I've gotten a copy of thermite, should I p1 it or use it on another chara?

fading fog
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just a waste of resources imo

teal kelp
drifting quest
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yeah its

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not good

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if its the same video as sent here before

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it was clickbait

teal kelp
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Yeah, had my doubts. 1 slab aight but 2 seems a bit too much

daring dove
neat snow
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I saw the post. They saying Chinese players discover something about raw stats or something idk. I don't want to make more gear. Artifice too expensive.

shut cobalt
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it reduces sp cost or smth like that just like in og arknights?

dry kindle
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endmin 20sp
wulfgard 18
arclight 17
perlica 15
chen 18
ember 28
xaihi 15
antal 15
avyw 19
gilb 16
lifeng 21
snowshine 25
laev basic 20
laev ult 22
yvonne 17
ardel 18
pogra 20
dapan 21
akekuri 19
last rite 30
catcher 25
estella 19
fluorite 15
alesh 19

daring dove
dry kindle
shut cobalt
fading fog
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6 crowns for 1 second that can be situational is a bit much tbh in this economy

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I'd rather just save them for the abilities dealing the majority of the damage

daring dove
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Like I said you can skimp on investment on your supports an for now it could be argued to be a good tactic.

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But make no mistake your teams are performing a lot worse because of it.

shut cobalt
winged delta
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Why is everyone on the Akekuri hype train when we have Angal and hardest content is bosses?

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90% of Laev teams I see run Ake over Angal

drifting quest
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akekuri is the baseline, best in the most conditions
antal is an optional flex over akekuri or ardelia (moreso the latter right now) for bossing

daring dove
glass sun
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hi

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What should i invest in for the sub stats

winged delta
glass sun
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Crit rate crit dmg?

winged delta
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high quality wulfgard

glass sun
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She has her signature and everything

winged delta
#

🥔

glass sun
#

Right set as well

shut cobalt
drifting quest
#

crit is not a think in endfield like other gacha

#

it sucks right now

glass sun
#

o

#

What should i go for

winged delta
glass sun
#

Main att?

fading fog
#

except if you are someone called yvonne

glass sun
winged delta
drifting quest
#

baseline would be hot work gloves, x2 pyrometer for the 3p
then tide fall light armour

general stat chase is int > str
bonuses like atk%, damage%, etc etc

later on you can maybe look for the charge build if you want it, once you have artificing

winged delta
#

Here sir

glass sun
#

Thank you so much

#

OOO THANK U

winged delta
#

The copy pasta everyone has rn

glass sun
#

Im talking about the weapon thingy

winged delta
#

Useless once you get 3p, aim for the higher stats in the off piece

glass sun
#

The lil ball thingy

winged delta
#

This?

glass sun
#

Yes

glass sun
winged delta
#

Why wouldn't it be?

glass sun
#

I don’t understand what u mean by 3p im assuming it’s 3 piece

#

CUZ U KEEP SAYING USELESS 😭

winged delta
#

Oh, it's the set bonuses from the gear. 3 pieces are enough to unlock them.

glass sun
#

Yes ik ik

#

I got the same armor and everything

#

I just wanted to know whats best for her weapon ball thingy

winged delta
#

I thought you meant you got Hotwork armor

glass sun
#

Nooo

#

Haha

winged delta
#

Well the weapon essence (ball) is not something you decide
The weapon forces you into building 3 stats.

drifting quest
#

essences on weapons are just the 3 lines on the weapon

winged delta
#

So you roll the corresponding essence trial until you hit all 3 stats.

drifting quest
#

if you look at forgeborn its:
int boost
attack boost
twilight

#

so your essence should have those 3

winged delta
#

So you are going to want lock Twilight.
And then choose between atk or int boost.
Choosing atk or int boost comes from what potential other essences you will get as you fail aiming for Laevatein's.

glass sun
#

Okay so its rng

glass sun
winged delta
#

🙏 🥔

glass sun
#

Oki thank you everyone

#

You are so nice and lovely

winged delta
#

Don't burn your essences into upgrading Laev's one once you hit it imo

glass sun
#

My essences?

winged delta
#

There is too few weapons existing rn, you might actually use as fodder an essence that is perfect stats for a future weapon

#

The ball thingy

glass sun
#

U mean etching?

winged delta
#

I've only used as fodder HP and Treatement efficiency so far

#

That is my opinion only tho

#

yes

#

kinda same for gear on Laev, might change in the future

glass sun
#

oh idrk how that stuff works

#

The artifice and etching

#

This is technically me with this game

#

I just see pretty characters and big numbers and it puts smile on my face <3

rotund yoke
glass sun
#

ON GODDDD

dry kindle
#

Twilight options suck

jovial grove
#

wulgang with farewell + hot work for subdps
or obj + er for ult spam

glass sun
drifting quest
#

ult spam

dry kindle
winged delta
#

Here's what you can get by only selecting Atk Boost

glass sun
#

Wtf is even this

winged delta
#

Now you choose 3 main stats.
Obviously Intel
Recommend Agility for Endmin
Will great for thermit, strength for Last Rite weapon

glass sun
#

what am i even looking at rn

#

Bro i feel like im in the gojo domain expansion

#

Having my brain be over flooded by information

glass sun
#

Can you

#

Simplify this

winged delta
#

Watch a yt gyuide if you know nothing

#

10min and you're done

#

But to make it simple, you cannot guarantee what you get, you can only select multiple attributes including the one you want

#

So you might as well make so that when you fail, you still have a chance for good essence for other weapons

#

And you use a website for that

glass sun
#

OH

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BRO

dry kindle
glass sun
#

JUST SAY THAT FROM THE STARTTT

#

LIKE TRY LOCKING WHATS MOST FLEXIBLE

lime nacelle
next helm
#

That part about endmins crystal being consumed not giving 6.5 energy sounds like a bug to me

next helm
#

Endmins talent with potential refunds some sp

lime nacelle
#

It does. FeelsGoodMan

next helm
#

so if you proc that with their skill

#

the skill only gives 3 ult energy

lime nacelle
#

Yeah it gives 50 SP.

#

Not sure about ult energy.

#

Is there a relation between SP and ult energy? ASpikaThink

blazing cradle
#

Whats theorycrafting ?

next helm
#

every 100 sp you get 6.5 ult energy

#

but returned sp can't give ult energy

#

Generated sp can, like from vanguards

lime nacelle
# blazing cradle Whats theorycrafting ?

What's the better thing for you to do with your characters? What items are the best? What rotations deal the most damage? Hahaha... I DON'T KNOW! wow Let's try out things and see.

thorn shore
#

Does corrosion retain? Or do u need to reapply it

thorn shore
#

Ik it like eats away at enemy def over time or smth like that

neon zephyr
next helm
#

Apparently endmins doesn't when they proc their own crystal from combo, with a battleskill

shut cobalt
#

ake skill priority is ult > combo, right?
but i dont see any increase in combo sp gen

dry kindle
#

Consuming the crystal doesn't do anything

modest thorn
#

does anyone know the record for rhodagn?

dry kindle
#

11.18 pretty sure

modest thorn
#

11 seconds?

next helm
lime nacelle
#

DELETED!

hardy skiff
#

I haven't done the quest that unlock gear upgrade, how many pieces of gear do you need to max out one?

dry kindle
next helm
#

Consuming the crystal with Endmin skill returns 50sp

gritty olive
drifting quest
#

refunded or returned sp is not 'real' sp

#

you have to consume 'real' sp to get energy

next helm
#

Does it work that way for everything?

#

I thought returned sp was like fake for the next skill use

outer ermine
drifting quest
#

0s

#

lmfao

#

idk if its actually been done yet or just theoretical

#

but its bug abuse nonsense

fringe dirge
#

I've got a question on the wording.
Does Estella Pot 5 only work when she causes Solidification or can it be from anyone's solidification?
I have Alesh Talent here for a wording that specifies who is applying the solidification.
I'm wondering if I should factor in Estella's pot 5 energy gen into my rotation, but Alesh is the one solidifying on my team

summer flower
#

nearby enemy

dry kindle
outer ermine
#

PerliWheeze is it stew spam avy again

summer flower
#

so porbably distance

fringe dirge
#

Alesh's is flash frozen

drifting quest
#

infinite avy spear

fringe dirge
#

I shoulda ordered that the other way

drifting quest
#

stack enough to kill with the pull

#

= 0s

outer ermine
next helm
drifting quest
#

if it says returned / return then its not real sp

modest thorn
#

anyone know how much damage deep dive triaggelos does on his safe zone attack?

fringe dirge
#

Wait so how does returned SP work with generating ult charge then?

dry kindle
#

Last rite doesn't give a fuck its fixed

#

The team gets griefed tho

next helm
#

Is it a percentage, or the next skill just doesn't generate ult charge

drifting quest
#

last rite technically loses the energy too but she gives herself way more anyway

next helm
#

Does her skill give 4.5 or no?

drifting quest
#

oh

#

i mean

#

its literally identical in practice

#

so it doesnt matter

#

but fair

dry kindle
#

Well if we trust en wording anyway

dry kindle
summer flower
#

man

#

so not for spreadsheets but to divine meaning behind CN tooltip?

fringe dirge
#

What does it mean when people say things like 4/4 or 3/4 rotations?

drifting quest
#

stacks consumed on crush

#

3/4 would be 3 stack > 4 stack

fringe dirge
#

Ah

drifting quest
#

4/8 would be 4 then 8 (4x2)

#

etc etc

summer flower
#

?

#

4 then 8?

drifting quest
#

1st rot is 4 stacks

#

2nd rot gets 8

summer flower
#

How you get to 8 stacks for crush?

drifting quest
#

its not 8

#

its 4x2

#

as said

summer flower
#

Ohh okay

next helm
#

Do you hold 4 for the next rotation

#

or slow build till 4 on the second

summer flower
#

Pretty sure its just twice 4

fringe dirge
#

What is rotation length? I thought rotation is 1 cycle of your team's combo skill

summer flower
#

So same combo probably being done

summer flower
#

@drifting quest

drifting quest
#

different teams have different rotation lengths

summer flower
#

...

drifting quest
#

and then even then some rotations can be extended or decreased

next helm
#

4/3/4 I get

#

So why is it called 4/8

#

And not 4/4/4

drifting quest
#

because its 1/1 rot of length

#

the 1st one implements pog breach

fringe dirge
#

So on my team
Da Pan and Estella alternate between using their ults to achieve 4 stacks of vuln for Da Pan to crush
Alesh uses ult every single combo skill cycle.

Is a full rotation for this team 2 uses of combo skills?

summer flower
#

What do you mean

normal tangle
#

idk if this is quite the right channel but has anyone done the math on about how much sanity you need to farm everything to upgrade 1 char? rng factors like essence not included

#

just skill gems and promotion mats and xp and such

summer flower
normal tangle
#

not quite what i'm asking

#

i want to know how much in advance i need to farm for an upcoming char and how much i can spend on extraneous shit for rn

summer flower
#

Unless you talking Maximum required?

normal tangle
#

yeah that

normal tangle
#

so like 2 weeks-ish, would you say?

summer flower
#

Also we talking masteries and 90/90 + weapon maxed?

normal tangle
#

if i save everything since the beginning of yvonne banner, could i comfortably max fangyi or whoever when that time comes

summer flower
normal tangle
#

probably not masteries since those need that weird yellow stuff

#

just 9/9/9 is fine

#

but yeah level 80-90 for both char and weapon

summer flower
#

Yea i have no idea, maybe Wiki Has info on topic?

next helm
#

Should be easy to prepare

summer flower
#

First game had plenty of info on that topic

normal tangle
#

so no math there, unfortunately

tight haven
#

fangyi could be the first banner next patch

drifting quest
summer flower
#

We could make spreadsheet

normal tangle
#

what does max max mean to you

drifting quest
#

a full month wouldnt be unrealistic

summer flower
#

And gather info for required XP amounts etc

normal tangle
summer flower
normal tangle
#

could be mi fu or tangtang

drifting quest
#

90/90
90/90 weapon
9/9/(4-9) essence
9/9 skills, any relevant skills masteried, any entirely irrelevant ones ignored
all talent nodes, trust nodes, base nodes
artificed gear but thats not tied to sanity

lime nacelle
#

Honestly, if you take into account the T-Creds cost... it might be about a month. uhhh

normal tangle
#

and is the 1month figure taking into account the daily +40? or just the passive regen

summer flower
#

Ohh right, skills eating them like candy

drifting quest
#

daily refresh plus potentially refreshes from whatever source

normal tangle
#

hmm interesting

summer flower
#

Do we have someone who was putting all into endmin without increasing rest?

next helm
#

You get a bunch from base too over a month

normal tangle
#

so would you say it's unwise to start building a second team rn ✍️

drifting quest
#

yes

summer flower
#

That would be good judgment

drifting quest
#

as someone doing it

#

yes

normal tangle
#

heard

#

was gonna build 3 but erm

#

dreams crushed

summer flower
#

Then i got sidetracked to test stuff

#

And dumped a lot into xaihi

#

And it seems i wasnt correct

#

I might build cryo with fluorite cause resources spent Already

next helm
#

Tbh

#

If everything rn is trivial to do according to this chat

summer flower
#

Content i thought its gonna be a bit more challenging had healing orbs

#

Unless deeper they are missing

next helm
#

I'd say except like favorites/mainmain carries 80/90 is enough

summer flower
#

But as deep i got there it was not concern at all

amber vapor
#

Reminder to do your etchspace weeklies before they reset

summer flower
#

Etchspace weeklies?

#

It Has weeklies?

#

O.O?

tribal igloo
#

ye
they give 5000 metrics

summer flower
#

Ehh, but metric rewards don't refresh right?

open hare
#

Yeah

summer flower
#

Its one and done right?

open hare
#

My weeklies are kinda smuck

summer flower
#

Weeklies...

#

Dunno

#

Can't remember them

next helm
#

One and done gamemode

summer flower
#

Its future possibility for expansion in there

open hare
#

What I need to do is beat up marble aggeloi 32 seconds less

next helm
#

There will be the map is not done

open hare
#

But for the life of me I actually can't

next helm
#

But the weeklies are pointless if you can complete everything with the first weeklies

open hare
summer flower
#

You got crush team?

open hare
#

I'm a last rite main

summer flower
#

Ohh right, and you can't steroid in there

#

Team build channel ain't useful because too much traffic

open hare
#

Everyone is talking about meta there man

summer flower
#

I wanted to Ask what kind of team i can make with xaihi

open hare
#

Last rite team xd

summer flower
#

Don't have her j think

open hare
#

Like shes good, but I need her weapon to make her better

#

Last rite I mean

#

Idk how to even beat marble aggeloi faster

#

It's like rng and stuff at the same time

proud vector
#

Using consumable buffs yes? That’s a not so small chunk of bonus damage

summer flower
#

Not apllicable

midnight stirrup
summer flower
#

Etch space

midnight stirrup
#

Triangle is way harder to get right

#

Although he also has easy reads

proud vector
#

Ah I see

summer flower
#

Wait what?

open hare
#

Triangle was easier lmao

midnight stirrup
#

Marble is easier

#

He has a predictable ahh moveset

#

Just gotta pay attention

open hare
#

I ain't talking about dodging

summer flower
#

Wait what

#

What weeklies we talking about?

open hare
#

I can dodge malenia waterfowl all day but this marble i can't kill 32 seconds less

midnight stirrup
#

Ur saying u dont know how to beat him

steady rock
#

Hate marbled DoT ground pensiveClown

open hare
#

Im trying to grt the trim

midnight stirrup
#

Then u lack the damage

proud vector
#

Is this a weekly thing? I thought we were talking about boss speedrunning for the Trim

midnight stirrup
#

I just got the trim a second ago

#

Was fun

open hare
#

Nah I don't lack damage

midnight stirrup
#

Atomic please

open hare
#

I lack rng

midnight stirrup
#

If its not damage or dodging, how does it make sense u cant beat him

summer flower
#

I got confused

proud vector
#

Well it’s hard to give advice without seeing a run tbh

midnight stirrup
#

Its not RNG

#

lmao

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou record?

open hare
#

It's rng for whatever tf I hit

summer flower
#

O.O

midnight stirrup
#

Bro running Alesh into marble

proud vector
#

No as in record an attempt

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo trims, i could never

summer flower
#

I could probably check my time

#

Maybe get trim dunno

open hare
midnight stirrup
normal tangle
#

i lowkey can't even trim rhodagn

midnight stirrup
#

Laev?

open hare
#

Last ritr

normal tangle
#

i think my rotation is fucked up

midnight stirrup
#

Uh

#

Ok

#

I can record a run

open hare
#

If I was using meta it would just vaporize

midnight stirrup
#

Last Rite is meta?

#

Tf

proud vector
#

Ehh, high investment LR is kinda a boss buster yeah

open hare
#

Nah man we last rite lovers are on bottom

normal tangle
#

lr team is top 3

midnight stirrup
#

Okay now you just talking nonsense

normal tangle
#

it's like lae>phys>lr or something

open hare
#

I wish we were higher

proud vector
#

Lower investment LR is a different beast I feel :p, can’t just rely on a big nuke during stagger alone

have to maintain uptime for much longer

midnight stirrup
normal tangle
#

and then everything on the bottom barely matters

#

idk i don't own that cannibal

tight haven
#

technically

open hare
#

She's not a cannibal

tight haven
#

with prep time avy >>>>>>> everyone

open hare
#

They used to be cannibals in old ak

proud vector
#

PerliWheeze fckin Batman prep time loool

midnight stirrup
#

Last Rite can eat me

outer ermine
#

holy, physical just skipped dorito phase2

proud vector
#

Her spears have a 30 second life though

outer ermine
#

shits about to get good

open hare
midnight stirrup
#

Chill

#

Thats my wife

open hare
#

No

#

It's our wife

midnight stirrup
#

Is ur Last Rite P5R5 max essence max artifice? No? Then stfu

#

/j

open hare
#

Stfu p2w

midnight stirrup
#

F2P actually

#

Im just built different

open hare
#

Liar

midnight stirrup
#

The truth is harsh ik

open hare
#

Naw

midnight stirrup
#

Anyway

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou how was the reroll?

midnight stirrup
#

I can record a marble run if u want

proud vector
#

Long and arduous?

open hare
midnight stirrup
#

Alright let me try to finesse this mf again

#

1s

proud vector
#

PerliWaaaaa wait a moment

#

The P4 LR rotation changes drastically due to energy discount on ulti

#

Will this even be useful

open hare
#

Yeah ngl I might have to farm more mats so I can max all last rite skills

#

I only have p1

midnight stirrup
#

@drifting quest does it

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou ehh. It can change drastically

summer flower
#

p4 assumption

drifting quest
#

Cant say ive ever looked at p4 second rot lr

summer flower
#

on non uprate

open hare
#

I need my cryo priestess to be p1

outer ermine
open hare
#

My cryo amp ain't even p1 so I'm missing out on a little bit more damage ngl

proud vector
#

Well if you are still doing a Xaihi LR LR 2x rotation

midnight stirrup
#

Omg u can dodge out of combo 😭

proud vector
#

It should be identical to a P0 LR rotation

midnight stirrup
#

Wtf

open hare
proud vector
#

PerliDerp how did it take this long LOL

midnight stirrup
#

Killed my run

#

1s

open hare
gritty olive
#

currently my sims suggest that no ult spam is 30% stronger than hotworks

sweet sphinx
#

my theory is that the true endfield are the friends we made along the way 🥹

proud vector
#

PerliDerp that’s what I mean, high investment LR seeks to one rotation the boss LOL

open hare
#

I actually don't understand how to rotate lol

gritty olive
#

@tight haven you might wanna see this shit

next helm
#

Is there like 0 merit to support auto attacks?

proud vector
#

Low investment LR is a different beast beast

tight haven
#

whar

gritty olive
#

go full ult spam for now

open hare
next helm
#

or do off field characters not use the multipliers of basic attack?

gritty olive
#

its 30% stronger for forgevorn currently

sweet sphinx
outer ermine
proud vector
#

Ehh?? It’s just Xaihi LR LR combo skill spam
Repeat the above, now Xaihi and LR have ult, so ult dump

#

That’s the rotation

open hare
open hare
#

That's a good idea

tight haven
#

yeah this feels right

gritty olive
#

idk what magic was done in my sims, but currently its unfair for the no ult spam since raizer added an N4 for the ult window on ult spam, compared to normal rots

tight haven
#

especially at p5

gritty olive
tight haven
#

i end up not doing any ebskills during ult

#

lowkey

#

because the batks just hit way harder

open hare
#

I think peppercat died

gritty olive
#

rip

supple epoch
#

Does that link for team gear and such here not list Gilberta bp weapon as an option for any particular reason ?

drifting quest
#

It sucks

tight haven
#

like a lot

#

just use stanza

drifting quest
#

It can work but it works in exactly 1 team with miserable uptime

proud vector
drifting quest
#

Stanzage

open hare
#

F2p shit investment?

supple epoch
open hare
#

My f2p bum can't even figure out what I'm doing for Lr

#

I swear I have all the wrong things

drifting quest
#

All 3 bp weapons are pretty miserable

proud vector
#

PerliFumo keep the combo skill rolling and good things will happen to you

drifting quest
#

Navigator is the closest to being decent

supple epoch
#

Is it that she doesn’t inflict nature affliction enough?

supple epoch
#

Or that it’s too aoe focused ?

open hare
#

Gandalf

proud vector
#

I feel like I recognise that wizard Gandalf PfP

open hare
#

Gandalf is saying I shall not pass

summer flower
#

okay lets see time now

supple epoch
open hare
summer flower
#

i'm talking my time

proud vector
#

o7

open hare
#

Okay guys, time for me to max out my 2nd last rite skill lmao

supple epoch
#

I had it commissioned after that description led to a ccer getting banned from a genshin server like 3 years ago 🤣

proud vector
#

It was a theorycrafting channel in another game and I can’t remember which one LOL

summer flower
#

193

open hare
#

.

summer flower
#

hmmm is that slower than before? or same?

supple epoch
#

Yeah haha

proud vector
#

PerliWaaaaa it was yeaaars ago

summer flower
#

193 is same as before

#

crit gear on endmin might be very bad

open hare
#

My grandma plays better than these newbs

#

I taught my grandma how to play gacha games

proud vector
#

Crit is bad in general unless synergy in kit tbh

#

The base crit damage is only 50% and it’s hard to stack bonuses for crit, there is no crit set yet

summer flower
#

it works fine in specific lenght of battle

open hare
#

Yet

proud vector
#

If a true crit set drops it’ll change for sure

supple epoch
summer flower
#

ones that arent that long for multiple rotations, and ones that arent one combo and done

next helm
#

Future support set could just give something other than dmg%

proud vector
#

Ehh I mean

#

Big fat damage% and atk% are still quite good

summer flower
#

so overworld non stamina battles it feels fine, set for crush is powerful deletes but you run out of dps

proud vector
#

And is a lot more consistent than crit

open hare
#

Can I delete marble so I can get on with my day

summer flower
#

no

proud vector
#

no

summer flower
#

no, i'm talking dmg output

open hare
#

32 seconds manPerliWaaaaa PerliWaaaaa PerliWaaaaa

summer flower
#

if battle is single crush combo + attacks

proud vector
#

Though you can delete marble phase 1, no one likes phase 1

summer flower
#

like basic attacks

#

because you cannot kill all with single crush

#

then crit clears such battle faster

open hare