theorycrafting

[peak void]

what set should i run on OBJ akekuri

[lime bear]

Umbral also doesn't need 2nd team

[peak void]

thinking between ult spam or frontier

[lime bear]

Laevatain already cleared trim so I don't need anything now

[lime bear]

ult spam imo

cuz her main kit is ult for sp buff, her buff isn't that good imo

[peak void]

frontier tho

[elder skiff]

I just started building my second team because I'm bored with Lae rn, doing Yvonne but it seems like she needs that P2 for the CR cause CV rn is kinda meh

[peak void]

[lime bear]

yeah I want to raise Physical but still can't decide Lifeng weapon tbh, already got Pog Thermite, Chen Sundering, Dapan can use either Canal or I can pick Exemplar from weapon selector, now Lifeng is the mysterious one

[willow blade]

what is the best phy team?

[daring dove]

Btw, I'm wondering if there's a play to be made with Gilbeta & Ardelia where they do become BiS in a Laevatain team. Especially if you have P4+ Laevatain.

[lime bear]

Valiant buy which doesn't scale that well with higher pots or pulling his sig which I don't want lmao

[frozen tide]

@dry kindle yo i got a question

[lime bear]

I'll build Fangyi in 1.1 anyway

[eternal pilot]

ah vid doesnt have talent level priority either, do i just level all their skills to lv9 or what

[daring dove]

I'm noticing for example I don't have much issue getting Laevatains ult even with Gilberta in the team. With this much ult gain on Laevatain.

But I have P5

[peak void]

p4 signifcantly reduces ult cost

[daring dove]

So I'm wondering if you went full ult gain on P5 Laevatain taking you to around 110%.

An dropped Wulfguard.

I'm thinking Gilberta's buffs more than makes up for the loss of Hot works gloves

An Wulfguard isn't providing much outside of heat inflction anyway.

[rigid wave]

[drifting tapir]

to have this what i need to select ?

[willow blade]

what is the current best phy team?

[manic jay]

is the ult gain efficiency on Gil's signature actually needed for anything?
considering her ult needs to align with the rest of the team isn't the extra efficiency overkill ?

[daring dove]

It's overkill but it might be useful for better sets later that allow you to run set bonuses that don't have a ton of ult gain.

[manic jay]

that could be the case but I wouldn't take that bet over pulling a weapon that useful now

[daring dove]

Sorry I can't read that to get Laevatains BiS Essence though you have to do this boss. Then select Int as one of your top options & ATK% as the middle option. Make sure you select Will & STR as the other options. Then you have the chance to get BiS essences for all 3 of these.

[frozen tide]

pog lif chen endmin/panda

[drifting tapir]

and if i play this one ? uts good or not ?

[elder skiff]

You chose the wrong one, that's the Origin Lodespring EA, you're supposed to get one from the Wuling

[drifting tapir]

ohh ok i didnt finished wuling ...snif

[daring dove]

Ult gain Laevatain is very good but requires a lot of artifcing to pay of at P0, even then it's kind of more of a side grade over Hot Works Laevatain if you don't have a lot of potentials on her weapon.

Ult gain builds are mostly for whales but they still feel really nice to play at PO an can still be BiS depending on the situation.

[willow blade]

is it possible endmin will be def better then dapan in the future once more of her Ps release?

[frozen tide]

its hella close already could very well be

[willow blade]

does dapan make staggering easier?

[glad niche]

Or tang tang deletes both, so who cares

[willow blade]

lmao

[stone thunder]

Phys team really nuking every boss rn while I struggle getting trimmed with Laevatain team

I got all the trims tho but barely

but like phys teams can clear sub 3 mins for both aggeloi and triaggelos

sub 90 secs for rhodagn

[willow blade]

does phy suck at overworld/swarm/multitarget?

[elder skiff]

Da pan = no sp needed for crushed, more utils so phys will feel smoother
Endmin = nuke, nothing else as of right now
Just pick one that fits you better

[eternal pilot]

howwwww

[willow blade]

well all 4 chars of a phy team needs to be built unlike leav where you kinda just build leav

[stone thunder]

That's true tho yes 😅

[eternal pilot]

rn all my characs lvl are lv80 (Excluding chen's weap at lv60)

do u think it's lv90 diff

[daring dove]

💀

I ain't making money in Wulling today that's for sure.

[willow blade]

OOF

[glad niche]

Laev can trim faster than this

Much faster

[unkempt oak]

🤔

how

phys shouldn't be outclearing lae

[stone thunder]

but it does tho

[willow blade]

staggering

[stone thunder]

Electric teams also outclass Lae

[unkempt oak]

alright now you prob doing smth wrong

[stone thunder]

granted you gotta max a lot more characters

[frozen tide]

what

[stone thunder]

nahhh I optimized everything

[stone thunder]

have you not seen electric clearing rhodagn in 92 secs

[frozen tide]

brother

you can clear rhod sub 20

it means nothing

[stone thunder]

what

[frozen tide]

😭

[unkempt oak]

p0r1 lae can do it like 41s

[stone thunder]

since when

[willow blade]

what team? avy perlica arclight ardelia?

[stone thunder]

okay I must be doing something wrong with Laevatain

[glad niche]

Stop spreading misinformation Ticking. Your skill issues are not fact

[stone thunder]

It was sum niche lineup

[frozen tide]

theres chinese whales 2 combo skill clearing rhod with last rite

they dont even rite ult

[stone thunder]

[split gust]

is still worth it to get Lifeng's Mountain Barrier if you already own Valiant?

[elder skiff]

Not worth spending the wep currency on

[stone thunder]

I got like the perfect rotation and using Lae team with items barely clearing marble aggeloi (I think?) I didn't know what time I got on the last run tho cuz it doesn't show

[outer ermine]

[frozen tide]

if you arent a whale probs not

[unkempt oak]

must be the team

[willow blade]

i remembering i was like how is leav worse then when i played avy except for ult? then i found out the big dmg from leav skill is REALLY delayed so i keep animation cancelling it lmao

[stone thunder]

Probably, is Lae, Wulf, Akekuri, Gilberta bad

[eternal pilot]

ok yeah my physical team is clearing 2:30 and ik its probs part skill issue but im wondering if im missing investments on somewhere else

[unkempt oak]

found the problem

[stone thunder]

[unkempt oak]

[stone thunder]

What's the better team then

[glad niche]

There's zero chance your using Gilb effectively

[stone thunder]

I just use her for her ult 😅

[sour notch]

So ginseng is better even when ATK% weapon is in question. Many thanks

[stone thunder]

used sp regen too so she gets it faster

[willow blade]

just use ardelia you get a free sig too

[dire kayak]

whats the best weapon augment for endmin?

[unkempt oak]

wulf antal eyja is best for p0 trims

[frozen tide]

mountain bearer is always better than valiant but not by a whole lot unless your lifeng is p1/p3+ and im guessing higher pot val makes the difference closer as well

[stone thunder]

Ardelia is for norms (this is a terrible argument)

[willow blade]

my p1 ard can shread pretty good

[fringe dirge]

Ya know, after playing with Ember for a bit, I realize her inconsistency is fixed if you play her onfield.
She does less damage than Chen, but she can make use of the Xiranite set to give dmg bonus to team.
I think Chen still does more stagger than her since chen uses swordmancer set.
Her combo skill cooldown is longer than Chen's, but it's still under 20 seconds so she's able to keep up with 20 second team rotations.

[dire kayak]

whats the best weapon augment for Grand vision on endmin?

[willow blade]

28% sus at mas 3 and 16% arts sus at just the activation of her combo then skill

[frozen tide]

what is a weapon augment

[stone thunder]

Probably, but Gilberta ain't even that bad, gives 41% arts susceptibility

[dire kayak]

the essence things

[stone thunder]

41% more damage!!!

[glad niche]

There is only one essence

[frozen tide]

3 for 3 is always ideal but

its a gamba

[unkempt oak]

see the uptime

she's not meant for lae

outside one rotting

[elder skiff]

Agi, Atk, Infliction, farm the science park one

[tardy swift]

Its literally what is on the weapon, you just match the essence with what the weapon says

[fringe dirge]

Gilberta seems to be a support for a character that doesn't exist yet

[quartz flame]

T0 with nefarith

[fringe dirge]

Maybe a guard with an arts damage ult?

[tardy swift]

I'm saving pulls for rossi because surely she is also fire and can be played with laev

[willow blade]

if your p5 p5 everything then sure she is better

[stone thunder]

I always get her ult down every Lae ult tho

[elder skiff]

probably when a nature dps comes out

[stone thunder]

I can get 81% ult regen with her ideal gear after all

[glad niche]

Gilb has 5sec uptime. Half a Laev ult

[tardy swift]

Btw anybody know the ult efficiency break points on support ake?

[stone thunder]

DAM I might've not gotten any benefits from her then 😂

no way I progged at the beginning of the Lae ult

💀

[willow blade]

and with p1 ardelia you get 28% sus + the 16% from p1 sig (i am assuming these are separate multipliers as the sig does not say sus so it is actually more then 44%)

[stone thunder]

Yeah but I'm using opus tho

[willow blade]

bro backed off faster then my dad

[stone thunder]

at least I'm getting something outta the nature infliction

😂

[willow blade]

oh he is back

[lime bear]

to Valiant or to not Valiant

[stone thunder]

the image took some time so

[glad niche]

[stone thunder]

I sent the reasoning too fast

[willow blade]

the only real reason to pull gilberta: shmoving faster in the air

[glad niche]

Valiant is fine if your not planning to p3 Lifeng anytime soon

[stone thunder]

That's true I like her broom

[willow blade]

with how the pity is set up, get ready to lose a lot

[stone thunder]

I got her on the 10 free pulls from Lae so just usin her for fun and a little bit of bonus dmg

[unkempt oak]

oh man

opus sucks

you ideally don't want to bskill gilberta

[stone thunder]

💀

I use bskill for Lae ult

[unkempt oak]

run stanza if not sig

[stone thunder]

to like group enemies

[elder skiff]

opus does suck

[willow blade]

sad i have not gotten her yet in the 16 free pulls (still waiting on the 4 more pulls from the event) hopefully i get her (copium)

[stone thunder]

Amen brother

[unkempt oak]

why would you need grouping with lae 😭

[stone thunder]

Sometimes the enemies wonder off to nowhere

😂

[willow blade]

uh aoe ult + more grouping = more dmg (in some timeline)

[stone thunder]

Especially in alluvium

but my Lae destroys every round in 5 seconds so 💀

they don't have a chance to get away

[elder skiff]

no difference, just farm the one that aligns with your supports' weapons as well to be more efficient

[willow blade]

tbh leav base heat4 skill has a misleading large hitbox

like it feels so small wdym i am hitting something like 5 meters to the side

[unkempt oak]

man imagine having the sp to use a gilberta bskill

esp in a lae team

[zinc maple]

would security knife be good for laevatain since it gives 23% heat damage (base)?

[glad niche]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

And fantastic name

[stone thunder]

I think it’s pretty accurate tho

The circle makes sense

[willow blade]

the orb part sure not the slash

the slash does not feel like it can hit to the side that much

[stone thunder]

Also back to the trim thing electric team can do Rhodagn in 54 seconds 💀

Phys does it in 56

They stagger the guy so he doesn’t go to phase 2

Something Lae can’t do

😅😅😅

[glad niche]

Electric go way harder than that

[stone thunder]

Agreed

Much bigger potential than my example that I came across on tt

Yt*

[willow blade]

i do have JET p5 avy, p4 perlica, p5 thermite arclight, and the goat p1ardelia

[glad niche]

The billibilli madlads have cryo, electric and heat all sub 20s

[stone thunder]

What the haill

[willow blade]

is there a better team? or this good

[unkempt oak]

here you go chief
https://vxb23.tv/FXjBfsl

[stone thunder]

This some p6 nonsense

[unkempt oak]

p0r1 42s

[stone thunder]

Oh

Yeah the chinese guys are just

Too good

[unkempt oak]

but yeah do try that team instead for your lae

[stone thunder]

They spend the most time playing and analyzing fr

[stone thunder]

Maybe I’ll check it out

[glad niche]

This is where China is at

It's another level

[willow blade]

what that software?

[stone thunder]

20k batk is crazy

[willow blade]

tbh now i regret getting JET instead of detonation

[stone thunder]

What the haill

They play not for fun but optimization

🤣🤣

[glad niche]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[stone thunder]

Maybe optimization is fun

[willow blade]

that is how i play lmao

[glad niche]

You'll need to speak native or get a translation plugin

[stone thunder]

Is HSK 3 good enough

🤣🤣

[willow blade]

uh ill just guess half the characters like i normally do

[elder skiff]

Their Lae gameplay are full of swaps and animation cancels it's insane

[willow blade]

are you guy able to open these links? because i need to turn off my vpn everytime i try to open them

[daring dove]

Endmin enjoying the view.

[open hare]

Why people call her lavacake

[willow blade]

idk sound cute?

[open hare]

No cake, only sword

[lime bear]

Laevatain

[open hare]

SURTR EVERYTHING

[willow blade]

she hates being called surtr

[gritty olive]

You could do google translate everything there

[eternal pilot]

ah nvm ig ill wait for my entire team to be lv90

[gritty olive]

Thats how someone here did that

[open hare]

I'll bribe with ice cream just like the original arknights

[glad niche]

Anyway. If your not trying to learn Chinese, just check Iana's doc in pinned messages. Covers all the bases for now

[open hare]

I have adapted, I need 1 more now

[gritty olive]

I have a sheet currently that could do sims also

[willow blade]

wut'

[gritty olive]

But its kind ahard to replace weapons, so you could prolly only edit the rotations

[open hare]

Are you by any chance speaking to a ghost

[daring dove]

That's kind of cool attention to detail the 4* squad going on little strolls together.

[lime bear]

where's Marble

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[open hare]

I'm just got both man, give me a break

[gritty olive]

Still largely wip

[open hare]

Idk wtf to do with marble

Other than slap the tentacles with ult and idk wtf to do 2nd phase

[outer ermine]

uge food or stew ig

[lime bear]

learn the pattern first and be patient with 2nd phase

the boss moves around a lot

so it's not uncommon that you waste EBS when the boss flies away

you need to kill the boss and stagger each time

before it can fly away

and do the big laser

where u need to jump

[open hare]

The boss is easy af man

I can dodge everything, but I just need to kill it fast enough

Damage and learning how to rotate is my only problem

Otherwise, dodging isn't even a problem. I don't need to jump for her orbital strike movr

[willow blade]

Marble I find ok to dmg and avoid dmg i just hate the rock tentacles

[open hare]

I am wondering if I should just ult the melee ones to avoid wasting time

[woeful plume]

is no oblivion perlica fine? is her dmg that good?

[open hare]

2nd phase is a little hard for me to stagger

[frozen tide]

are you gonna use her as dps?

[woeful plume]

with avy

[frozen tide]

doesnt she use deto with avy

wild wanderer if you dont have it

[woeful plume]

the runs i see keeps rocking oblivion

[frozen tide]

oh like the chinese runs with crazy time

i mean a maxxed perlica would do a shitload of dmg

and electro team is not a heavy one man carry team

[woeful plume]

i mean if an actual electric dps comes that contests avy/perlica slot

it will be very awkward

cuz i like avy a lot but she provides nothing to the team other than 10% sus

[frozen tide]

yeah it feels weird to optimize around having maxxed out mid characters

we all crowning avy perlica and arclight

[river ermine]

just saw this sheet, will you ever do this set?

[wise gate]

attention to detail brother thats just luck

they don't wander together they just all happened to wander in the same place at that time

[willow blade]

The real reason to learn Chinese: not dealing with the bad en dub in gatchas

[wise gate]

I don't think it's BAD it's just sort of the least cool language

english is also an incredibly slow to speak language

[willow blade]

I remember in genshin when I swap to cn because of the va strike and OMG is paimon less annoying

[wise gate]

a person speaking most languages fast will say more in less time than a person speaking english fast

[willow blade]

Also better jokes

[wise gate]

meh

english has so many nonsensical stupid words and slang terms that they have more jokes

[midnight stirrup]

Playing anything other than JP feels awkward to me

[wise gate]

and if you have like 2000 times the jokes of the other ones

then you are gonna have more good jokes

[willow blade]

True my English messes up my French so much because I always feel I missed an redundant filler word

[wise gate]

though cn has infinite jokes and beats en in that regard

[wise gate]

when my french friends speak french in a rush it's like they speak so much that I can't even understand it

[willow blade]

When you got 谐音ya you get a LOT of jokes

[wise gate]

it's like when flash and kid flash are speaking in superspeed and the one dude only understands like every fourth word

[wise gate]

literally why I said cn has infinite jokes

I genuinely cant think of a language slower than english

[midnight stirrup]

Which medals are the top 3 and the bottom 4th?

[empty crag]

what is wulfgards best gear set in laev team

[willow blade]

Full ult charge

[frozen tide]

thats a flex and a half

[midnight stirrup]

What are they tho

[stone thunder]

What’s a full flex

[frozen tide]

the bottom 4th is for 25 combined singular weapon essencing

[midnight stirrup]

I know the top 1st and bottom 3

[frozen tide]

so like 9/9/7

[midnight stirrup]

But idk the others

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

[stone thunder]

What’s the third diamond

[frozen tide]

the top 3rd is for making a certain number of perfect depot deliveries

[midnight stirrup]

Top 2nd?

[frozen tide]

uhh i have it i can look

one sec

[midnight stirrup]

Ty

[stone thunder]

O yeah I’m getting that tommorow

[bronze plume]

those top 3 arent flexes at all

they are just for doing normal shit

[river ermine]

its 50 deliveries

[frozen tide]

@midnight stirrup

[willow blade]

Does arkknights ever do collabs?

[bronze plume]

arknights has

[frozen tide]

yo beef

you good with arknights numbers

i had a question

[willow blade]

Are they ever region restrictive?

[stone thunder]

Wbu this

[bronze plume]

depends on the type of collab

what about it

[stone thunder]

Damn

[bronze plume]

they play the game good for them

i dont see medals as a flex

[frozen tide]

well the 25 one is a pretty big flex unless you cheesed it

[bronze plume]

naur i care very little about that shit

[frozen tide]

pot 3 weap minimum and max essencing

[willow blade]

Wdym cheesed

[bronze plume]

25 what

[stone thunder]

Cheesed?

[frozen tide]

25 combined essencing thingy on a single weap

[stone thunder]

Using rng manip

🤣🤣🤣

[bronze plume]

i mean

that just

takes time

all it shows is they spent on sanity

[stone thunder]

500+ missed calls from the bank

[bronze plume]

its literally just a rng thing that everybody who plays enuf will get eventually

[frozen tide]

i would have to max out one of my supp weaps to get that trim

[willow blade]

Rolling every etch first try, I am down

[bronze plume]

cool on them for getting within 2 weeks i guess

[fallen breach]

As opposed to uh.. roman numerals?

[frozen tide]

yes

[stone thunder]

Pls show what a true flex is like

[frozen tide]

arknights has a unique numbering system by 16s

[fading stirrup]

Who will I lvl 90 first for phys team? Pog have sig, endmig have sig, lifeng, chen

[fallen breach]

Alphanumerics? Binary?

[fallen breach]

Does it?

[frozen tide]

im capping out of my ass

i was asking if he could double check my calculations on some optimizing

[bronze plume]

gang idc

[stone thunder]

Now this is a true gamer

I respect

[bronze plume]

what a flex is depends on the person

[stone thunder]

[bronze plume]

to me theres nothing in endfield that id considered a flex in gaming terms

its a gacha game

good job

[frozen tide]

bruh

[fallen breach]

This game is too easy tbh

[willow blade]

Ooo right I know then

[stone thunder]

It is quite an easy game for now

[willow blade]

Credit card

[stone thunder]

[willow blade]

Biggest flex

[frozen tide]

do you have a flex for a game then beef

[stone thunder]

The biggest flex is the game itself

[fallen breach]

@bronze plume im 4/5 potential on Ardelia without spending anything 😉

[stone thunder]

Hypergryph made a good game

[bronze plume]

i

dont

care

[stone thunder]

And made 170m dollars

[jovial grove]

what is the diff valiant to mountainbreaker for phys team?

[fallen breach]

He cares

[bronze plume]

go play elden ring at lvl 1 complete all bosses without getting hit

[fallen breach]

Play PSO2

[frozen tide]

like 12 percent if p0 lifeng iirc higher pot lif means bigger difference in favor of mb

[glad niche]

Mountain is better with Lifeng potentials. Otherwise diff isnt much

[frozen tide]

i did ds3 sl1 run does that count

[willow blade]

Uh 100% complete necrodancer

[stone thunder]

Peak theorycrafting

[willow blade]

That is a flex

[jovial grove]

so should i get valiant from store or copy that i will get mountain at some point

[bronze plume]

sure

[glad niche]

Trim Marble using a guitar hero controller

[frozen tide]

if you are pulling mb banner you will get it eventually

theres no banner that has mb other than mb banner tho

so you either pull for it or take the valiant

[glad niche]

MB banner has valiant as a "miss" too

[frozen tide]

high pot val probs basically same thing as p0 mb anyw

[rigid wave]

[frozen tide]

lmao it has exemplar atleast ig

[willow blade]

Na how about signing but each key is 1 pitch apart

[frozen tide]

best weapon banner might weirdly be ard sig banner

has deto and thermite

[willow blade]

And we get a free pull for it

[jovial grove]

rn but maybe later there will .. . TT

[frozen tide]

whar

its unlikely that a sig weap appears as a sub in another banner

so pick your poison

[civic wolf]

i got an Ardelia sig from that 10 pull ticket...

wtf do i do with a second Ardelia sig bro

[fallen breach]

Imagine a world with 0 currency exchange between cities

[bronze plume]

yeah thatd be shit

[frozen tide]

how would you make that happen wuling is in the middle of blight stream

and it doesnt seem like flight is common despite all the technology

[daring dove]

1 more to go, really want that 1 second reduction in combo trigger CD. That's the key to better uptime on her signature weapon buffs.

[fallen breach]

We have a starship lol

[humble hinge]

devs will introduce 10 to 1 exchange ratio lol

They don't want you having fun

[frozen tide]

we do

[fallen breach]

Oh no! Blight on the ground! We have a STARSHIP lol

[frozen tide]

but for currency to be accepted elsewhere trade between the two has to be common

[fallen breach]

We literally Teleport all over

[frozen tide]

we really have not seen many aircrafts in story

or anyone teleport other than endfielders

my headcannon is that endfield just has way better technology than rest of the planet

[open hare]

Rhodes Island please nerf endfield 🙏

[fallen breach]

Thatd be fantastic

[fallen breach]

More like epste.. nvm

[open hare]

....

[frozen tide]

[open hare]

Mon3ter kill this guy

[bronze plume]

why am i not surprised

[fallen breach]

Mg base in the background.
I made this lambo from originium

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-arknights-gif-14095264837471776735

[open hare]

Why not make a nuke

[fallen breach]

Good idea

[open hare]

Nuke Nefarith and return to priestess child of originium

[fallen breach]

Id join up with the etherium folks in a heartbeat btw

[drifting quest]

Traditional aircraft are always sketch in arknights lore
They exist in a limbo because anything propulsion based has issues thanks to originium crystal formation and debris
Back in arknights there was the issue of the invisible wall up there
Plus cost and general impractibility

Come endfield now we have teleporters, space stations etc so kinda invalidated again

[open hare]

Aircraft carpet bombing

[fallen breach]

Id join the "villains" in a heartbeat.
Beats picking up waterbuffalo poop

[open hare]

...

[frozen tide]

yo shuo

i got a question

[open hare]

This is why we should send you back in time as a infection to ursus

[amber vapor]

Wait speaking of TP points... We can assume they either "copy and paste" you or they suspend you in a state of pure originium while you're transferred from A to B. Which means... We're already integrated into originium more than we think.

[fallen breach]

Youre straight up describing transport buffers in star trek

[outer ermine]

starpod

[fallen breach]

Either way, if you use it you're no longer you.
You're a reconstituted clone of the original

[amber vapor]

Yeah it's been a long discussed topic in science fiction and theoretical quantum physics

[daring dove]

I'm really liking these team to be honest, as long as you build Lavetain full ult gain it still seems to flow really well & way more buffs than Wulfguard variant.

[amber vapor]

Full lvl 90 team damn

[frozen tide]

isnt everybodys data fully stored in originium

[fallen breach]

Thats why they have originoum cancer

[bronze plume]

there a whale so

[amber vapor]

Oripathy affects those who cannot withstand the effects of originium trying to integrate them into data

[daring dove]

Still had to focus my resources a ton.

[bronze plume]

K

[amber vapor]

Resources are still limited to farming so

That just means they focused on a single team

[bronze plume]

and yet they can do this thing called refreshing

and most poeple focused on only 1 team so far

[fallen breach]

I main Gilberta, I spam Ardelias battle skill, use Perlica, and Endmin.
Soon as you final attack it procs perlicas snd ardelias combos, which proc endmin and gilbertas combo.

[ocean hawk]

remember that they can spend origo crystal for 400 energy

[amber vapor]

Yeah but who in their right mind would be that stupid with money

[ocean hawk]

tbh stupid with money is more like situational

some big whale or in some game we called it leviathan usually do that energy buy

[fallen breach]

Might as well use all your cheap artificing now too

[ocean hawk]

for us, it might be stupid to use origeometry just for energy, for big whale spender ? no

[daring dove]

I'm only doing 2 refresh, an only started doing that this week. Basically gets you 2400 extra sanity a month at the cost of 1 ten pull.

For me that seems ok trade off.

[ocean hawk]

i want to ask smth

is the price increase

after each refresh

iirc the first buy is 1 origeo for 40 energy

[bronze plume]

it goes to 2 on the third refresh

[daring dove]

It's 1 orb for the first 2 refreshes after that it doables for the next two I believe.

[ocean hawk]

so, 11, 22, 33

and the limit is 5 ?

[daring dove]

The first two are worth if if your a dolphin / whale

[ocean hawk]

since only 10 refresh per day

[daring dove]

After that it's just not worth

[ocean hawk]

or the patern become 11, 2, 3, 4 ?

[ocean hawk]

even for dolphin, its not worth for me

[fallen breach]

U must make a lot of money striker to be dropping that much

[daring dove]

I mean depends I guess for me 2400 extra sanity for 10 pulls is an ok trade. It's actually much better than Genshin's resin refresh.

[fallen breach]

Striker do u stream?

[ocean hawk]

well, maybe in some point in time I can spend in gacha games without much thinking

[fallen breach]

Like professionally?

Im just curious if you make money gaming or nah

[daring dove]

Naw I just have a pretty highly paid career & not a lot of things to spend my disposable incoming on. I'm not a streamer / YouTuber although I occasionally post clips on YouTube.

[fallen breach]

You probably could, ppl love watchin ppl gamble

[daring dove]

I'm kinda just comfortable with my lot in life I guess, no ambitions to go further. I have turned down promotions in work before because I want an easy life.

[fallen breach]

Same but thats because many "promotions" are like 5x the responsibility and work for too small of a pay increase

[tight haven]

1/1/2/2/4/4/4/4/4/4

[daring dove]

Exactly, I have a team of 3 people working under me. That's enough personalities to manage. I don't want to be dealing with 40 HR basket cases.

[frozen tide]

yo enion

[daring dove]

I think I'm figuring out a combo here that instantly fills up Laevatains ultimate with this team.

I think Wulfguard may really be off the team.

[stone thunder]

How

Do you spam Lae skill

🤣

[daring dove]

Lemme test it a bit more, an no.

Then I'll record it

[stone thunder]

Okay

So you do combusts

Every 10 secs

[glad niche]

......

[stone thunder]

Bro

Dont spoil

I havent increased her affinity

[fallen breach]

Ardelias combo procs Gilbertas combo btw

[stone thunder]

I saw that in a yt post

[glad niche]

eithe rhave i

just popped up today on login

[stone thunder]

Neither have I and oh

[stone thunder]

Why does Gilberta like you and not me

[fallen breach]

@daring dove you know, Perlica can amp your damage a lot because her combo is suuuper easy to proc, her combo also procs gilbertas combo, and it applies electrocute which boosts all elemental damage types by quite a lot with +arts intendity gear on her, which also boosts her ult dmg by a lot

[stone thunder]

:((

[normal nymph]

Do we have a confirmation on the next banner after Yvonne?
I'm not too crazy about her

[ocean hawk]

aight, thanks for the info

[glad niche]

I trim my medals and you dont

[stone thunder]

I have three trims

And I’m getting my fourth tommorow

Wait

[glad niche]

im waiting

[stone thunder]

Yes I think

[stone thunder]

Hohoho

[bronze plume]

no

[stone thunder]

I searched for the orbs and chests with no yt tutorial @glad niche

Except for three chests in wiling

[drifting quest]

likely tangtang or mifu but we dont know

[stone thunder]

But that doesn’t count

[bronze plume]

gang aurylene and chests are ez af

[stone thunder]

Spent 15 hours on them

[normal nymph]

Ah shucks
At least Tangtang tho?

[fallen breach]

@bronze plume have you tried mixing perlica in there for electrucute with high +arts intensity gear on?

[bronze plume]

i mean probably

[daring dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXt1bYIJIUU This is what I have so far but I think I messed up a bit at the start.

[fallen breach]

In a high-end build (using 4-piece Pulser Labs and double Calibrator accessories), Perlica can easily reach 200+ Arts Intensity.
​Base Electrification (4-stack): ~24% Arts Damage Taken.
​With 200 Arts Intensity: This multiplier is boosted by 1.8x.
​Result: The enemy now takes ~43.2% increased Arts Damage.

Laevatain's damage is almost entirely Heat (Arts) based, especially during her Ultimate, Twilight. Because Electrification is a "Damage Taken" (Susceptibility) debuff, it is multiplicative with Laevatain's own internal buffs (like her Melting Flame stacks or weapon passives).

[daring dove]

Maybe it doesn't work so well against ST enemies

But against multiple enemies Gilberta's miles better than Wulfguard.

[stone thunder]

Definitely watcging this when I get home

[wild meteor]

Hey y'all, I'm planning on starting to artifice my gear for laev when the week starts anew (after I get my essence for her sig wep hopefully). I'll have artificing mats from last and this week.

Which gear pieces do you recommend I get and upgrade? I'm currently on the tide chest and hot work set

[fallen breach]

Do you know about using non-set pieces for "good match"?

[wild meteor]

Yeah

[fallen breach]

K

[wild meteor]

It's just the kits' primary stat that I can do that for

[fallen breach]

I cant give any useful tips cause i dont know enough about aetificing myself

[mellow hedge]

Is it worth getting Gilberta without Yvonne? I currently have a Last Rite team, Lae team, and an Anywenna team set up

[fallen breach]

Yeah

[wild meteor]

But I'm wondering if laev wants the non set gear setup for ult or int maxing

[bronze plume]

you either run hot works or ult gain

up to you what you run

[fallen breach]

@wild meteor i think you should research best team combos and roles based on who you really plan to main because that plays the biggest role in gear choices

[wild meteor]

Any idea how much better/worse the ult gain setup is Vs upgrading the hot work?

[wild meteor]

Yeah her team is quite fixed

[bronze plume]

it depends

[fallen breach]

And it's also a dps boost in some cases to actively play a character that you are not using battle skill on.
This allows more uptime with final attacks, regular attacks, etc

[bronze plume]

both have there situations where either is better

[fallen breach]

Im actually actively playing gilberta lol, but i dont use her battle skill.

[timber sage]

I've accidentally gotten the Freemium pass weapon (Umbral Torch) for my Laev, because I forgot that the weapon banner is actually around longer. I'll have enough arsenal tickets to guarantee it soon, is it worth to still get it? How much of a DPS upgrade is it in practice?

[wild meteor]

Which team are you running her in? Avywenna and co?

[bronze plume]

nobody should use gilbertas battle skill in the first place

[fallen breach]

A super off meta team with emphasis on combo skill spam

[wild meteor]

Abt 10-15% iirc Vs po sig

[fallen breach]

Gilberta+Ardelia+Perlica+Endmin

[lime bear]

how's Physical performance in AoE content

[wild meteor]

V nice based on what I've seen

[lime bear]

I'm just conflicted on buying Valiant or not

[stone thunder]

Hey she’s good

[bronze plume]

i

[lime bear]

there seems no good Lifeng alt weapon besides his sig and Valiant which I need to buy

[stone thunder]

She does the thing when she uses the bs

[bronze plume]

didnt say she wasnt good

read

[lime bear]

alr picked Thermite

[wild meteor]

Same here I was planning to pull 2 more for the selector box for valiant. But Gilbertas wep banner took my arsenal tickets

[stone thunder]

She does things with her bs

[timber sage]

I guess it's worth going for then, maybe someone else can use the BP weapon in the future

[stone thunder]

The bane of gacha game players

[wild meteor]

How many pulls do you need to hit pity tho

[lime bear]

why not just buy Valiant huh

it's 2480

compare to 2 pulls

1980 x 2

[stone thunder]

20

[wild meteor]

Coz I could choose sth else if I need to

[ocean hawk]

so uhhh, I found this

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FvFxzxEtL/?buvid=XU70EDC7A1E0B397701A3BD25B7ED25984022&from_spmid=main.space-contribution.0.0&is_story_h5=false&mid=nTn4BytL%2F2MEmg59chNYlQ%3D%3D&p=1&plat_id=114&share_from=ugc&share_medium=android_i&share_plat=android&share_session_id=0a75bee8-3471-4091-9c74-c36b7d8b1a1b&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=main.ugc-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1770540035&unique_k=Vuzz84U&up_id=420885642

[fallen breach]

Depends.
Like for example if i use perlicas battle then gilbertas battle then ardekias battle it puts arts suscept + phys susoect on them and ardelias battle will occur 2nd time for free on the grouped up enemies pulled together by gilberta

[frozen tide]

@mystic halo i did testing and it seems like xaihi ult does scale past 12 percent(36-24) which would imply amp limit only applies to the int increased portion as the asian wording implies
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-u4RsiCE9bMqROhvcv7DXszEM_SAJGAa?usp=drive_link

[wild meteor]

I'm not building my Phys team yet

[ocean hawk]

solo perlica trimmed marble

[mystic halo]

uhh

[timber sage]

I didn't do any weapon pulls yet because I wanted to wait until I have the 15k required. Got a bit too lucky with Laev to actually get it though, but sitting around 14k

[mystic halo]

well yeah that ult is like what

49% at max?

[wild meteor]

Why gil+Ardelia tho. Is the rotation easy to execute with both of em

[mystic halo]

I guess the wording is strange

[drifting quest]

the wording sucks

i trusted people who told me it caps at 12%

[mystic halo]

lmao

[drifting quest]

[mystic halo]

uhhh

owned I guess

[outer ermine]

always has been 1200 m3

[drifting quest]

cant trust anyone unless i test it myself

[sour gazelle]

same guy https://b23.tv/N38ZXDO

[ocean hawk]

HOLY

[fallen breach]

So as soon as you do a final attack you proc both ardelias and perlicas combo skills, which proc gilbertas and endmins combo skills.
This applies corrosion and electrocution to enemy, ardelias battle skill turns the corrosion into phys+arts suscept.
They take a very significant amount of extra damage now from phys or any element.

Particularly if you have +arts intensity on ardelia and perlica

[wild meteor]

Is Perlica the main DPS in your teamcomp

[fallen breach]

I get a fair amount of extra dmg on enemies from these debuffs.
The thing aboutvthis game is you should COMBINE dmg buffs to your team with debuffs on enemies because then the modifiers are multiplicative instead of additive

[next helm]

So it does go to 1200 int or not?

I am going crazy

[drifting quest]

yes

[fallen breach]

Ardelia is, ironically. Because im getting heal spam this way too lol

[drifting quest]

there might be some cap before 1200

but at the very least it scales beyond ~400-500

[wild meteor]

But it's a shame the arts DMG buff from Gilberta doesn't work on endmin

[next helm]

I knew it

[fallen breach]

Im controlling gilberta but im using ardelias battle skill

[outer ermine]

[next helm]

It was Schling I remembered that tested it

[fallen breach]

Yes i may replace endmin with yvonne later if im lucky

[wild meteor]

Do you use like oblivion on Ardelia or sth

[fallen breach]

If that happens ill be using yvonne's battle

[wild meteor]

Interesting team comp, hope you get Yvonne and can share how the team goes

[fallen breach]

Im using ardelia with a lot of battle skill gear, i still have her signature wep on her.
Perlica is using oblivion.

[stone thunder]

My last rite and Lae team can’t processs this yet

Still haven’t read anything on electric and phys teams

And nature teams don’t exist yet

Wait I think I mentioned the wrong message

[fallen breach]

Electrocute is an arts reaction.
Perlicas combo procs off any final hit from reg attacks, and "forces" arts reaction: electricute which both procs gilbertas combo, and it debuffs enemy to take ~45% more damage from arts if you at endgame gear with perl u can have around +200 arts intensity on her

The uptime is fairly good for electricution because its so ez to trigger her combo

Im not at that lvl with perls gear yet but i think a lot of ppl sleep on how good electrocute is

Ardelias combo skill corrosion is also a "forced" arts reaction, so it proc gilbertas combo too

Corrosion is strong as well with arts intensity gear, and if you use her battle skill it changes to phys + arts susceptabilities instead

Using both ardelia and perlica as team combo triggers as big debuffs to enemy + buff bots to team dmg, is pretty good

And the gear for perlica youd use to do this makes her ult stronger as well

[daring dove]

Does someone have the recommend rotation for Wulfguard Laevatain team. I have worked out with Gilberta team to completely fill Laevatains ult the cost is 300 SP. Want to see the difference with Wulfguard team.

[fallen breach]

Theres a lot of synergyvl possibilities with ardelia, gilberta and perlica for any arts user as the 4th
The CATCH is, if you're stacking specific element debuffs instead of using arts reactions you wont trigger ardelias combo as often.
(You still can when u consume though)

[stone thunder]

So thats why I see them in one team sometimes

[stone thunder]

Akekuri BS when wulfgard combo is on

And use Lae BS to build up stacks when SP overflow and wulf CS is down

I think something like that

Wait

You can proc wulf CS with BS too tho

No akekuri nvm

What I don’t like about wulf is that his BS doesn’t apply fire arts when the enemy is combusted

Just consumes the combustion and doesn’t build Lae stacks

[daring dove]

So all I'm using to trigger Laevatains ult is Laevatain skill & Akekuri still at battle start. Then second Laevatain skill for combustion to trigger ult after combo triggers.

[fallen breach]

Gilbertas battle skill does not jive with ardelias combo, and ardelias combo procs gilbertas combo so.. yeah thats why they only mix if u make them play nice together

But if u use perlica too, her combo procs gilbertas anyway so

[daring dove]

That's enough to fill up Laevatains ult instantly with only 83 Ult gain.

But I have P5.

Trying to so with P0 109 should work as well

[fallen breach]

Right, ive heard lae can just ult spam lol

And its very very good

[frozen tide]

690.84 int is max with deto i think, so abt 45

but also p5 is 1.1 times that

which does make it abt 49

spot on

bs max hp proc is 20 percent

69 percent cryo amp

nice

[outer ermine]

just get p5 ard sig and +6 int, has secondary too

[frozen tide]

and 10 percent cryo susc

[outer ermine]

funny stuff

[stone thunder]

I usually trigger Lae ult, Lae skill, akekuri BS + wulf CS and the Lae thirdbatk total will proc 4 stacks. Then I use Lae skill again for the big skill

[stone thunder]

Ooo

Very insightful

[stone thunder]

Bruh

[stone thunder]

What comes after is Lae CS, + Akekuri BS + Lae BS + 3rd batk for four more stacks then the big Lae BS

I think Akekuri BS recovers SP that’s why I don’t use two Lae BS

[drifting quest]

ake bs does not recover sp

[stone thunder]

Then I use her BS for fun

[drifting quest]

its the most consistent applier of mf

more reliable in aoe, faster in sgt

[stone thunder]

Oh yes

That’s true

[drifting quest]

or heat, rather

which turns into the mf

[stone thunder]

Really good for multiple enemies

Way better than wulf

[drifting berry]

Does anyone know if Ardelia and Gilberta art susceptability debuffs stack together? Or one replaces the other?

[stone thunder]

That’s why I use Gilberta BS + Akekuri BS

:)))

[drifting quest]

ardelia's should overwrite gilb's

[twilit quail]

yooooo guys check out this alesh set

[drifting quest]

seals build with spice

[drifting berry]

got it, ty

[stone thunder]

It’s in chinese so I believe in this build

[drifting quest]

you love to see i

t

[twilit quail]

Im mathing out sets for

cheap physical

I cant believe it but this is

this is what alesh is going to run

[stone thunder]

Is it weird that I use Alesh for Last Rite team

[twilit quail]

cause endmin sp refund is griefing us

[stone thunder]

I use Last Rite, Xaihi, Alesh, and fluorite

[twilit quail]

and he needs 55.3% charge

[fallen breach]

@stone thunder +115.3%
Is the combined, multiplicative result of using high arts intensity ardelia with high arts intensity perlica.
Both of their combos go off as soon as you do a final attack, you follow their combos with ardelias battle skill to change corrosion to arts suscep+physical suscept.
Once suscep and electricute debuffs are applied to enemy, it takes +115.3% times more arts damage from any element.
Your teams buffs are multiplicative when they interact with this modifier also, not additive.

This modifier means any battle skills, regular attacks, combo skills, and ults

[twilit quail]

endmin SP refund is actually such an incredible

pain in the ass

[stone thunder]

So what does that get you

4x dmg?

[twilit quail]

Im pretty close to being done with the scripting for the phys overhaul

now I just need to

make the rotation graphics

[drifting quest]

clueless

[frozen tide]

[stone thunder]

@fallen breach please don’t ghost me I feel dumb if you do

[frozen tide]

how bad can a gacha rotation be

surely it must be one dimensional and applicable in every circumstance

[twilit quail]

ok so endmin chen estella alesh is on a 4/4/2

two ults from alesh and estella per full rotation

this is actually a degenerate ass timeline

[stone thunder]

Damn

Ian come back

[twilit quail]

oh I know

I'll use endaxis and then I'll

just ms paint over the chinese

🔥

[fallen breach]

Without this Duo: Laevatain hits for respectable numbers (~15k–20k per swing in Twilight state).
​With AI-Stacked Perlica & Ardelia: Those same swings jump to 60k–85k, with her enhanced Battle Skill explosions often clearing 250k+ damage in a single burst window.

[stone thunder]

Soooo use Lae + Wulf + Perlica + Ardelia (?)

[frozen tide]

Lae ardelia gilb fluorite

[outer ermine]

mspaint

[frozen tide]

Ain't nobody ready for ts

[fallen breach]

Id use lae+ard+,perl+the squirrel probably

If i used lae, i dont

[stone thunder]

Lae taking four minutes to proc

[fallen breach]

That was just an example

[stone thunder]

Who’s gonna be putting heat reaction

[stone thunder]

Hmm

[frozen tide]

Ok but 4 stack corrosion+ard+starry+gilb

[stone thunder]

Idk, without wulf it’s not quite efficient

[frozen tide]

Imagine the screenshot

[stone thunder]

And without SP regen it’s also not efficient

[rare zodiac]

Don’t Arde BS consume Corrosion? Then why the high AI build?

[stone thunder]

I haven’t read nature reactions 🤣🤣

[fallen breach]

Ard puts arts suscept when she consumes corrosion

[frozen tide]

Corrosion gets higher multiplier the more stacks it procs at

[stone thunder]

Arghhh gotta read more

🤣🤣

It’s all fun and games until

Last Rite + Da Pan + Perlica + Fluorite

[mighty imp]

I forgot they even refund sp

[rare zodiac]

I know, so the corrosion res reduction that amp by AI get swallowed so why the need for AI

[stone thunder]

Last Rite would still be dishing insane damage alone with Fluorite tho

[frozen tide]

What da pan doin with rite

[stone thunder]

Why not Last Rite + Xaihi + Perlica + Ardelia

🤣🤣

[stone thunder]

It’s a terrible team that’s the joke

[daring dove]

Yeah Wulfguards dead in Laevatain team. Gilberta is miles better got Laevatain's full ultimate gain combo down to less than 14 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzSZ8eb1NTI

[rare zodiac]

I mean having Fluo mean 1 more stack mean 240% bonus multiplier

[frozen tide]

I thought sayin what da pan doin was funny

Like what da dog doin

[stone thunder]

With Lae Using LYNX?

[frozen tide]

But his name is da pan

[daring dove]

Naw Ult gain set with Hot works gloves

[stone thunder]

Rip

Is Gil’s 7% ulti gain not enough

[fading fog]

I'm kinda stun-locked, what set am I supposed to run on Xaihi and Gilberta when they are together in an Yvonne team?
Eternal Xiranite doesn't stack but that's the only good set for the both of them

[stone thunder]

The girl gives 7% ult gain for the entire team but it’s not enough

[drifting quest]

x2 frontier o2 tube, xiranite gloves, multiple different armour choices

[daring dove]

Don't think her ult gain impacts Laevatain.

[fallen breach]

This actually works btw

[frozen tide]

That's arguably the best rite comp

[stone thunder]

Wow

[rare zodiac]

Only in crowded situations

[drifting quest]

best lr comp is xaihi perlica akekuri

[terse furnace]

🥀 Trying to raise two teams is rough

[daring dove]

Yeah I need to test ST as well.

[stone thunder]

I threw out akekuri for Alesh for the sake of being different

[jovial grove]

why perlica and akekuri there btw
dont their skills mess up ice infliction?

[stone thunder]

I can relate

[rare zodiac]

In single target, you will struggle with stacking with out wulf

[drifting quest]

you can be different doesnt make it better

[rare zodiac]

Wulf whole existence is to give stack

[frigid vector]

perlica electrification is busted

[stone thunder]

Yeah Gilberta helps Akekuri a lot

[frigid vector]

as is ake link buff for LR

[stone thunder]

Bur against bosses you need wulf

[drifting quest]

perlica - arts unit holder, combo applies electrification not electric infliction
akekuri - sp, thermite holder, atk buff in kit, link

[stone thunder]

But I like Alesh cause the guy reminds me of me :))

[rare zodiac]

Just don’t skill 4 head

[jovial grove]

lovely

[frozen tide]

Why per instead of ard

[daring dove]

Yeah 14 seconds is worst case scenario here, if I'd of went in with Akekuri's burst ready I could reduce it further. But wanted to test for worst case.

[drifting quest]

sp issues, trigger issues, etc

[stone thunder]

Hrmrmrmmr

[frozen tide]

Ard trigger is generally not an issue with rite

Sp should be resolved by ake

[fallen breach]

Its a flat +40% for arts suscept at lvl 9
Perlicas electrocute is ~43% but these are multiplicative, and there will be times when enemies have corrosion on instead.
I just stack int and battle arts dmg on ardelia

[drifting quest]

doesnt both rite and xaihi proc infliction

[fallen breach]

Its not needed to have full arts intensity on ardelia no

[drifting quest]

and not allow ard combo proc

[fallen breach]

You're correct about that

[frozen tide]

Yeah but rite cs eats it up and next battack theres no infliction till final

Which is what procs ard anyw

[drifting quest]

so you have to delay its buff for a while

[frozen tide]

And because ards susc lasts so long its not an issue

[frozen tide]

Not if ur going for 3 3

[drifting quest]

you either delay first rot or dont get buffed for first rot

both end up worse than just perlica gaming

[frozen tide]

What

[fallen breach]

You can keep it up 100% of the time actual.

[frozen tide]

I think you should reconsider the timeline you can have close to 100 uptime for ard

[drifting quest]

how are you first getting it

at what point

[frozen tide]

Just proc it

It lasts 30 secs

[drifting quest]

??

[frozen tide]

First battack

[fallen breach]

The start before ardelias first combo+battle skill is ghe only downtime

[frozen tide]

Cycle

Proc ard

[rare zodiac]

Whut?? Arde only have 20% at m3 whut are you cooking?

[drifting quest]

where is the sp coming from

are you not doing xaihi or lr skill

are you waiting for the sp

???????????????????

ok

[frozen tide]

Mb bro was unnecessary

You cast xaihi bs pre fight

[drifting quest]

you cant tell me to reconsider the timeline

if you're wasting the ake ult

[frozen tide]

And rite bs on proc gives sp return

[drifting quest]

for ardelia skill

[rare zodiac]

Ake in boss fight only regen sp one in a decade

[frozen tide]

So you rite bs and xai bs

When you finish first battack you ard cs

[drifting quest]

does ooc sp regen even work

during protocol spaces

[frozen tide]

And end of corrosion timer you bs

And by then you'll have another sp bar for rite bs again

And then you cs cause 3x

Which buys a bit more time for sp

[drifting quest]

like you're delaying your lr 2nd skill at best case scenario

its just a slower rot

which is what i said to begin with

to gain just extra uptime which doesnt matter because of how your damage is distributed

[fallen breach]

Adding her sig weapon to the calculations

[frozen tide]

I hardly ever have downtime for lr bs when i run rite perlica xai ard

Tho it does happen in extended fights

Id assume ake ult fills that gap

And allows full rot always

[drifting quest]

ake ults before lr ult so doesnt give sp for the 1st rot

[frozen tide]

One ard proc lasts for 2 lr cs into ult

[fallen breach]

Its 16% + 8% + sig weapon effect.
Its essentially 40% correct? @rare zodiac

[drifting quest]

only smooths out a transition to 2nd onwards

[stone thunder]

All the f2ps crying not being able to try Gil and Yvonne

[frozen tide]

For sure

[bronze plume]

i mean if they didnt get laev they can get both so

[fallen breach]

The Passive: Infliction: Tidal Murmurs
​The weapon triggers a specific debuff whenever Ardelia uses her Battle Skill (Dolly Rush) to consume Corrosion.
​Arts DMG Taken Boost (R1): +16%
​Arts DMG Taken Boost (R5): +28%
​Duration: 25 seconds (This is massive, as it lasts almost as long as her Susceptibility debuff).

[stone thunder]

Truee it’s technically guaranteed

If you do everything

[fallen breach]

Add this to her arts suscept

Its approx 40%

And if you combine this with perlicas AI buffed electricute, they have multiplicative effects on eqch other because theyre calculated one after the other in the damage formula

[frozen tide]

Lr bs xai bs lr btk ard cs lr bs btk xai cs ard bs lr cs lr ult ake ult lr bs xai bs ard cs lr btk

[drifting quest]

you're wasting your ake ult

the link gets consumed by lr bs which does 0 damage

20% less damage on ult

[frozen tide]

Huh i see

[fallen breach]

It works out to more than +150%-+170% in the end result

[drifting quest]

like genuinely just straight up 20% less

link will make it x1.2

hence why its mid to jump through hoops for ardelia

[frozen tide]

In the case of the comp i run theres no boss where they don't have a phase transition by the time i cs ult and the downtime gives sp back

[drifting quest]

works but its more effort for no gain

[frozen tide]

So i dont rly have problem with ard using sp

[rare zodiac]

Then Perlica how did you get her to 43%? With m4 it make her apply lv2 electrocute, so 16%, 25 AI give 15% bonus for Electrocute, make it 16x1.15=18.4, how much AI you have?

[fallen breach]

If you factor in all the debuffs and buffs ardelia and perlica can debuff and buff your arts, the clmbjned effects, because theyre multiplicative, are huge

[fallen breach]

You can get her to +200 AI in current endgame

[frozen tide]

But if you were to have a boss that doesn't transition invinc or smth and not die by your rite cs>ult

Ig sp would be a big issue

[outer ermine]

just split buffs

[frozen tide]

The whole point of rite is to force transition or death by the time you run out of sp tho

[outer ermine]

enough for combo and ult to kill seperately

[frozen tide]

Sp reserve from fight start is enough for every bs for 1 cycle

[rare zodiac]

How much % does 200 AI give?

[stone thunder]

yo Ian can I add you, I'm learning so much

😂

[fallen breach]

​It provides a +80% increase to the effectiveness of her Electrification.
​This turns her standard 24% damage amp into a 43.2% damage amp.
You Can technically go above 200 but theres big diminishing returns if u do

[rare zodiac]

Nah sus is additives, and electrocute and sus are additives together, art taken is a true difference multiplier

[stone thunder]

did someone say sus

who're we voting out

[rare zodiac]

24 is 4 stack electrocute, even at p5 Perlica only add electrocute 2 stack so only 16%

So more of 29.66%

[stone thunder]

what in the google sheet is this

[rare zodiac]

Scuff but it work so it’s what it’s

[fallen breach]

​Normally, to get an enemy to 4 stacks of Electrification (the cap), you’d have to hit them with multiple Electric attacks

But her combo skill forcefully applies it

[rare zodiac]

It force lv1 at p0 and lv2 at p4

[daring dove]

You can still do it ST in about 17 seconds after testing with Gilberta in the team assuming you have Akekuri's burst. Full zero energy start is closer to 20 seconds.

That's where my testing got me.

17 second would be the time it requires from the second rotation onwards.

In a ST fight.

So still within a single rotation effectively.

[fallen breach]

No you're right its lvl 2 not lvl 4

[daring dove]

So there's very little reason real would to use Wulfguard over Gilberta consider she's offering the team way more damage buffs.

[fallen breach]

My fault for using AI to help me do calculations

Its still very worth though and the effect is still multiplicwtive with ardelias arts suscept+sig wep

[rugged vale]

is there a good way to farm ult charge between recrisis attemts ?

[drifting quest]

no

overworld slog

[rugged vale]

[twilit quail]

this might have to be it

[drifting quest]

ms paint supremacy

[twilit quail]

would it be funnier if I crudely scribbled the letters over the tiles instead

[brisk pecan]

kind and handsome discord professors

in the beta, on that umbral mons stage with the hp drain effect, was there like a heal on kill effect or do you actually have to build a healer

[terse furnace]

Finally maxed

[rare zodiac]

Can i have full 0 ult cal?

[old salmon]

you can just rechallenge the boss to build ult then end once u have it

[valid zealot]

Best would be alluvium.

[old salmon]

or if you realise you've scuffed the run build ult then end

[terse furnace]

Do we know the math to get Gilb's ult up as much as possible? How much ult gain does she need?

[bronze plume]

she needs her weapons and uhh

[stone thunder]

BRO I just realized Gilberta BS + Akekuri BS gives corrosion and can't contribute to Lae stacks 💀

[daring dove]

1 sec just uploading the video, I messed up a bit an didn't use the ult as soon as it was ready but you'll get the picture.

[bronze plume]

basically just the xiranite set and gilb sig gives you ult on cooldown

[terse furnace]

It does, you just need her combo skill up

[terse furnace]

Okay but how much Ult Gain is that? Is that maxed weapon+artificed stats?

[stone thunder]

or if you time the 4th hit correctly

or if you do wulf CS after the corrosion

but still this is shocking

[terse furnace]

4th hit only works on Heat Infliction, not corrosion/combustion

[stone thunder]

I mean before gilberta applies nature infliction

[terse furnace]

Also it's not even 4th, it's 5th

[stone thunder]

so like Gilberta BS, Akekuri BS, 4th hit before it applies nature infliction

which is

[terse furnace]

Or...just use Gilberta for the Corrosion/Combustion application and manage your heat infliction stacks better

It's not as hard as you think

[stone thunder]

or just never use Gilberta's battle skill

[terse furnace]

Okay, never use Gilb's ult then

[stone thunder]

her ult's different

[terse furnace]

Her ult applies nature infliction

[stone thunder]

use the ult before the Lae boosted skill

😅

[terse furnace]

I have no idea what you're trying to say, but my overall takeawaay is that you need to manage your heat infliction stacks better

[daring dove]

An of course YouTuibe decides to take its sweet time with this one.

[stone thunder]

I manage it well yes

[terse furnace]

Better

[daring dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcbZRBAS6xA

[terse furnace]

@bronze plume do you have any idea on the exact number or not really?

[bronze plume]

naur i havent tested gilberta myself yet

dont have her weapon

[fallen breach]

It depends on which is applied first i think but yeah

[terse furnace]

I guess I could ask Iana later when I see him

[bronze plume]

ive just seen people say that its ez to get her ult of cooldown they run her without the xiranite gloves cuz she still gets enuf ult gain off cooldown without it

[fallen breach]

Mixing elements is tricky

[terse furnace]

This is correct

If Heat is the last infliction = Combustion
If Nature is the last infliction = Corrosion

[stone thunder]

Bro doesn't play Gilberta cause bro doesn't have her weapon

based

[terse furnace]

I wonder if this is with artificed stats

[bronze plume]

no i play her

i use her in my electric team still

[stone thunder]

Oh electric team

[bronze plume]

i just dont have her weapon so i cant test the off cooldown ult well which is what we are talking about in the first place

[stone thunder]

ooo

[daring dove]

I think against ST there's an argument for Wulfguard in the team still, although I think once all the buffs Gilberta is giving are factored in he's still worse (especially if you have stuff like potentias on Gilberta's weapon & her P2). But in AoE Wulfguard is actively just terrible compared to Gilberta with a properly built team that's my take away.

[stone thunder]

I should really read

[daring dove]

From all the testing I have done.

[bronze plume]

you have max pot laev right?

[terse furnace]

Why are we comparing Gilb to Wulf? The comparison is typically Ard vs Gilb for Laev

[daring dove]

Yeah, although I'm testing with only 83 Ult gain to make sure it's repeatable at P0.

With 109 Ult gain.

[stone thunder]

People be replacing Wulf with Gilb nowadays

[bronze plume]

ahh

[terse furnace]

"Why?"

[bronze plume]

a whale that actually tests with still p0 standards

[stone thunder]

damn

[rare zodiac]

If no ake ult to help how long will it be?

[bronze plume]

how much laev bs are you getting during ult if running laev, ake, gilb, ard even

[rare zodiac]

Assuming all 0 ult for later game mode possibilities

[daring dove]

About 20-21 seconds so falls outside a single rot then, although that would only be for first rotation you'd have Akekuri ult for all others.

[stone thunder]

I like how this game doesn't buff the characters massively individually through pots but instead opens up better comps to do multiple times more dps

[daring dove]

Because Ardelia provides a lot of buffs when utlised correct Wulguard provides jack shouldn't that be obvious?

[bronze plume]

who the fuck is jack?
and how is wulf providing him

[stone thunder]

Jack the ripper

[rare zodiac]

For second rot how would you proc arde combo if vul is there?

[terse furnace]

Not really, Wulf is the highest amount of heat infliction in the Laev team. So yeah, that's not obvious and is actually super contradictory

[daring dove]

Sigh... this is a discussion on if we can get all the heat with need in 1 rotation so that we don't need him. In my testing in AoE that's 100% the case.

In ST it's more arguable.

[rare zodiac]

questionable, 100 sp is like 4 aa combo so i don't think it will be that short

[terse furnace]

I understand the reasoning for AoE specifically, but I don't agree with it because the game isn't purely AoE or ST

[rare zodiac]

as i am recreating your rot, i am in a dire lack of sp after 3 stack