theorycrafting

[rare zodiac]

If p0p0 then ER set is roughly 5~10% better (assuming max artifice) on a 60s rotation, but if you can prefunnel ult energy and can down boss in just that single ult cycle then hot work is significantly better

[outer ermine]

r0

[dry kindle]

When the big number set is better at doing big numbers

🔥

Don't forget to use the dumbahh BBS numbers as reference

[twilit quail]

it's really funny cause we came up with dpsp as a way to quantify damage without assuming perfect play from the player

and now it's looped back around to getting all weird

when the timeline gets super optimised

[dry kindle]

Dpsp when tide vs redeemer

[rocky saffron]

Opus is not a good option for gil ?

[twilit quail]

almost everyone is losing dpsp from optimisation

[dry kindle]

Stanza exists

F2ps likely can't even dupe opus either

[rocky saffron]

Stanza is better than opus ?

[drifting quest]

fine for overworld nigh useless for endgame

since you never really want to be using gilb skill

[rocky saffron]

ok so stanza

[tight haven]

stanza yes

[twilit quail]

like when lae is overflowing with sp and the sp outside of the core rotation isnt getting that much value

the dpsp plummets but the dpr and dps are all like

perfectly fine

[keen vault]

Hey so i SOMEHOW got 3 EXEMPLARS... what do i do with them? what are they good for?

[tight haven]

good for dapan

fodder two of them for potentials

[keen vault]

potentials? whats that?

[broken shale]

thats why ive gotten none

you took them all from me

[chilly basin]

this or stanza for gilberta on laev team

[tight haven]

stanza

[drifting quest]

stanza

[amber vapor]

Idk how to word this well but... Does Laev gain ult energy for her next ult while in her current ult or no

Or do I have to wait till her ult is done before I should start my next rotations for ult buildup

[drifting quest]

no energy gained during ult

if she gained energy in ult she would have 100% uptime

[tight haven]

lmfao yeah

[steel hedge]

How to play yvonne, gilberta, perlica, xaihi properly?

[austere creek]

is LYNX slab better for Laevatain or is it the Tide fall? Also want to ask on what do you guys run on her? (I already maxed intellect)

[dry kindle]

Redeemer build holding stacks

[dreamy stirrup]

Pog best set on physical premium is frontiers right?

[high finch]

You go to boss. If you one rotation it- good. If you didn’t, you spam Gilberta skill till you get 3 nature consume it by Yvonne and repeat 2 times and when she gets her ult you try again. Basically you either one shot the boss with all the buffs or farm 3 business days for your ult to charge back

[steel hedge]

oof, thats tough tysm!

[broken shale]

so like for gilberta when do i use her sig and when do i use stanza?

[sly nymph]

who gets lvl 90 on phys team? lifeng and panda/endmin?

[broken shale]

all of them but focus on ur main dps first

u can stop at 80 for the rest of the team as well

[sly nymph]

i'm too broke for this shit

[broken shale]

its fine

rip

[gritty olive]

the crusher

iirc the crush damage scales really good with levels, like superbreak in HSR or tranformstive reactions(read: hyperbloom) in genshin

[rare zodiac]

You can rotate with Yvonne, but that is pot 1 and 31 efficiency exclusive, so an ass design char, p1 should have been talent

[sly nymph]

doing protocol space for credits feels like shit tho

[wet crest]

best weapon for Chen in phys team with pog, lifeng, and endmin?

[drifting quest]

rascent or sundering steel

[rare zodiac]

The ugliest one

[night jackal]

Has anyone did some testing with the 3 piece tide set (chest, 2x basic atk+ kits) and the hot works gloves on laevatin?

[drifting quest]

no one I have seen has tested since it didnt even sheet on a comparable scale to make it worth it

[twilit quail]

it's not good

basically

average perf is going to be like 80-85% of hot work's

[vestal turtle]

am I wrong in thinking that akekuri just all around feels better on laev's team over antal, even for bossing?

link buff too good

[sand pike]

yo did anyone do weapon calcs for Avy yet?

[high finch]

What p1 do?

[twilit quail]

cohesive sucks ass it just doesnt have the numbers anywhere

and that's all you need to know

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-ahhhhh-muppets-the-excitement-gif-20612278

[sand pike]

damn alright

guess Detonation Unit will have to wait until I offrate it 💀

[open hare]

I get flashed and frozen in fear

[drifting quest]

how does valiant compare to cohesive and jet

[open hare]

Is that Pepe

[twilit quail]

dogshit

[drifting quest]

yes

[twilit quail]

completely unusable

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pet-pepe-arknights-arknights-kot-gif-1564766382238942175

[drifting quest]

expected

there was a minor amount of cope that maybe atk% stat stick did anything but

nah

[twilit quail]

at least perlica can use WW(even if it kinda stinks) and obliv

[rare zodiac]

Just make her combo skill regen 15 energy instead of 10, that open up 4 infliction consumes + 1 CS 0 to 220 for Yvonne with 31% energy efficiency, the important thing is that only with Redeemer max artifice that you can reach 31%, so you still can use 3 MI pieces and not brick your dps, that 5 energy seem smol but it make Yvonne a rotatable char or a one trick 1 rot meme char

[open hare]

Do I smack all strength on my last ritr

I think I gave up and should Unga bonga everything

[fossil helm]

@twilit quail sorry for the ping (though at least you happen to be here right now), but could you perhaps explain why Avy uses Pulsar Labs gloves instead of Yinglung Gloves T1 or MI Security Gloves?

[open hare]

What is her thunderlance withdrawal thingy

[fossil helm]

battle

[twilit quail]

respectively, smaller overall increase than dmg%, and attribute loss is too great

dmg% zone is mega diluted already

[fossil helm]

i see

[twilit quail]

it's not ideal but we dont have anything better

[open hare]

Is this good

[rare zodiac]

Max combo skill

Combo is her main source of dmg

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-takdes-takundes-endfield-last-rite-gif-5102120420616021417

I want gilberta for my waifu team, but my instincts tell me to savr

Save

Og arknights is tempting me to pull for her

[swift tundra]

anyone tried MI Security 3pc crit + Lynx slab on Laeva?

[manic blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438785797334503506/1469026229184233679/caption.gif

[manic blade]

Hot works or one cycle ult

[broken shale]

i couldnt resist either, shes too cute

[dry kindle]

Cease your existence

[broken shale]

i remember seeing someone use it, it wasnt as good

[swift tundra]

my hot works set is already maxed. Trying out different options. 2x lynx slab is actually pretty competitive if you can't consistently apply combustion to activate hotworks set.

[manic blade]

Am I responsible for double lynx slab propaganda

Oopsies

[dry kindle]

Laev enhanced skill:

[open hare]

I only have 15k to my name

[swift tundra]

also, you can just full on spam basic attacks and ignore skill during ult, kek.

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-30000-arknights-arknights-endfield-perlica-gif-604696076763371309

[wise gate]

bro

triaggelos has impact frames

I genuinely didnt notice

until watching it back

[manic blade]

I like hot works more an savings enhanced skill for after ult for practical one cycle

[swift tundra]

double lynx, tide surge armor, hot works glove can allow you to one cycle ult too. You deal 50% less dmg per skill but 25% more dmg everything else.

[dry kindle]

Uh

Yeah sure whatever

I swear if I see the fucking BBS post referenced

[swift tundra]

evens out since skill is only ~25% of laeva's dmg.

[dry kindle]

I'm going to pipebomb someone

[manic blade]

[open hare]

Should I pull for gilberta even though I only have 15k

I might suffer

[manic blade]

Prolly not

[glossy zinc]

Endfield isn't really the end of our field, Is it.

Nor is Arknights happening on the night of Ark

[wet crest]

is rapid ascent or grand vision better on chen?

[manic blade]

Might try hot works v one cycle ult calcs some time this week if I have time

I don’t quite have ult set fully artificed tho so not sure on rotation time

[vestal turtle]

rapid ascent without a doubt

[fossil helm]

did anybody yet compile lists of how many one-time oroberyls you can get from stuff like exploration, chests, aurylenes?

[fossil mica]

how much better is mountainbearer vs valiant for lifeng? I can buy a valiant in my weapon shop so I wanna ask before pulling for his weapon

[noble tapir]

Why would you want to run hot work gauntlets over xiranite gloves on Gilb?

[tight haven]

about a ~12% difference per rotation if memory serves

unless you're p3+ with lifeng when the gap widens significantly, at least over double

[fossil mica]

thank you for the info, i think im more than ok with that difference then thats not bad at all

imma just buy valiant its easier lol

[night jackal]

I've had good results with 3pc tide set on leav. (Chest, 2x basic ATK+ kits) then just use the hot works gloves

[twilit quail]

it's gone up to like 13-17% with our improved rotations

the gap is widening over time even for p0

mountainbearer is really good

[tight haven]

i imagine with every pot it widens a little bit

p1 probably doesnt do much but p2's all-att boost is pretty big for it then p3 is the silly upgrade

i havent looked into the p4 rotations/builds to figure out how big the gap would be with it and p5 just seems like another big W for mountain bearer

[twilit quail]

it matters at p1 too

[tight haven]

is it bc of the rotation diff

[twilit quail]

with p0 you generally only trigger his kd talent with ult

with p1 mb is already pulling ahead because of that

[tender zephyr]

is 4 ult subs gear > frontier + 1 ult sub for ake?

[tight haven]

oh interesting

[tender zephyr]

or maxed 1 ult sub enough for ake?

[tight haven]

full ult offers more comfort

frontiers buff isnt good enough to justify use over full charge gear in most cases

only time its better is for speedruns where ult charge doesnt matter

i forgot what akekuri's ult charge breakpoint is though

[tender zephyr]

if only thermite got ult sub not atk

[tight haven]

if it had that it would be hilariously broken tbf

[twilit quail]

it would be completely fucked if it did

[tight haven]

yeah

renders irrelevant basically any other sword on a support

[twilit quail]

p0 pog would be able to use intensity in all 4 pieces

if therm had ult charge

[tight haven]

having a sword as a support would be a massive buff

by the nature of it existing

[twilit quail]

you could use 3x pulse aether hand

[tight haven]

when we get an ult eff L sword with any kind of de/buff attached to it shit will be so fucked

[bitter cobalt]

does anyone know is effect enhancement from arts intensity additive or multiplicative?

[twilit quail]

maybe fortmaker was top 1 all along

[frozen tide]

How do you use stew meeting in boss fight

[high finch]

If only the blue 6* sword which gives attack buff gave it not on consuming stacks but on providing one I bet it could be so good chen

[tight haven]

has unique calculations for each type of effect

one sec

[tight haven]

bring a couple stacks of it

enter the arena but dont aggro boss

spam stews for ults

avy is the only one who cares abt doing this im pretty sure

[frozen tide]

Ic

[jagged tiger]

wait i just learned about Tidal surge set that only counts when the wearer applies itself
so if i use Last Rite skill on Xaihi as controled operator does it still count

[bitter cobalt]

so the arts amp from electrification is 12% * 77%?

[tight haven]

you go all the way around the boss

[high finch]

But why? Isn’t it good to ult more often and have intensity as well

[tight haven]

yeah

[high finch]

12 is lvl 1 reaction. Lvl4 gives 24 as a baseline

[tight haven]

iana meant that as in, "it would be game-breaking"

[mystic halo]

thermite is really, really good

[high finch]

Ah,okay

I mean my akeruri uses thermit and I feel so lazy to swap around. Maybe I just should lvl fort

[tight haven]

thermite with ult eff L would create a massive power well centered around it

[frozen tide]

Does your ult not aggro the boss?

[tight haven]

avy's? no

just aim it away from the boss

[mystic halo]

just miss on purpose

see pins

xdddd

[tight haven]

you go behind the boss

spam ult away from the boss

then final strike the boss to start

spam support combos/ults to get all effects online

avy cskill avy bskill

enjoy your funny 5m damage screenshot

[frozen tide]

Oh it does dmg when u pull it back

[tight haven]

yep

[frozen tide]

I wish avy was 6 stars she looks so cool

[tight haven]

yeah same

one of the more fun ops to main

i wish lifeng was better as a main

his bskill is so annoyingly long

[mystic halo]

he would be excellent to control if he didnt take 2 hrs to do everything

[tight haven]

yep

my #1 problem with him in beta that unfortunately made it to release

[mystic halo]

and pog kinda sucks as well

youre literally just left with chen

[tight haven]

chen and dapan/endmin are the two correct choices yeah

but even then chen's just...

easier to anim cancel iirc

[mystic halo]

no she's good

exceptionally so

if you can hit the hitstop remove timing

significantly better than endmin

[frozen tide]

I saw it before but didn't understand

[tight haven]

yeah the anim cancels on her are more intuitive than dapan/endmin from memory

[frozen tide]

Now i get it lmao

[mystic halo]

also a great unit for buffering things

[high finch]

Did anyone have calculations where I can see difference in lifeng art efficiently vs dmg% sword master sets

[mystic halo]

nah her gains from it are massive

it just needs hands

[tight haven]

lifeng?

do you mean pog?

[high finch]

Nah I mean lifeng

[mystic halo]

he means xiranite vs swordmancer

[tight haven]

oh

[high finch]

Cause I saw some ppl recommend art intensity set on him

[mystic halo]

and the answer as far as I know is uhh

it depends

oh intensity

[high finch]

Nah

[mystic halo]

intensity is fake as fuck

it's not good

[high finch]

The white one

[tight haven]

you dont use arts int on anyone but pog afaik

[mystic halo]

uhh

[tight haven]

i havent tested arts int on lifeng but it just doesnt sound very good to convert him into a stagger bot when you can build him to deal 1 billion damage during stagger

[mystic halo]

aethertech gloves are kind of falling out of favour

currently on endmin we are using weird things

like lynx ult gain gloves

for some teams

[tight haven]

those crowns cannot come faster so that i can actually start seriously doing shit with phys

without feeling like a fraud

[high finch]

Some ppl recommend this one for some reason

Second set

[mystic halo]

3 wrong sets

gg

[high finch]

Also what’s the fastest clear we have on p0 lava?

I saw 15.55 but it’s p5

[swift tundra]

how does arts intensity benefit Lifeng? Just for knockdown? Lmao. Does it scale that well?

[high finch]

Yeah it deals some extra dmg

But I still wonder why ppl recommend it

I also saw a 1.5min clear with full phys here and guy also used it

[mystic halo]

he has too many things that dont scale with it and it is exceptionally bad at p0

[swift tundra]

probably the stagger? But I don't really feel like you will be struggling to stagger with phys team, maybe just me...

[mystic halo]

it's pretty pointless

[tight haven]

its just not worth the opportunity cost of building him elsewise

imo

if it does have gains it will probably be for some niche ass "you need to stagger by this time" strats

[high finch]

This one uses art intensity set on lifeng for some reason

[tight haven]

i mean its like

not WRONG

people are just figuring out better stuff

again the answer is kinda "dont artifice anything for now if your tummy will hurt about being less efficient down the line"

[high finch]

He hit 60k with lift

Kinda good,no?

Lifeng one

[wintry hazel]

omg sinclair

[swift tundra]

I'm just artificing anyways. Clearing out the shop weekly.

[wintry hazel]

u still awake

[tight haven]

it is the middle of the day

[frozen tide]

Are you aussie

[tight haven]

on vacation

[high finch]

I full artificed tide+hot work set on lava and the guy here showed his math which says that with signature er set is actually a bit better

[azure turtle]

when minimaxing, is upgrading the skills any of laev team's supports necessary?

[tight haven]

dont get too hung up on it

[high finch]

So still I guess I’ll wait for now with artificing. Cause i don’t wanna waste any more resources

[frozen tide]

Hot work is better for dps

Damage per screenshot

[tight haven]

its a bit better assuming you have full dps during every second of ult

it all comes down the circumstances + piloting

[high finch]

But being in ult like 90% of the time feels better,kinda

[tight haven]

the distinctions we make are often without difference to 90% of players

oh 100%

[high finch]

I think I should artifice er set anyways

[tight haven]

i use ult set myself even tho my hot work set is done

[high finch]

If not lava,some supports would love to use it

[tight haven]

it just feels way better for daily content

[high finch]

Yeah I think I will work on it

I though of artificing physical team

[mystic halo]

ahahahaha

[high finch]

But I don’t know what’s the actual best options

[mystic halo]

well there are safe pieces to artifice

like swordmancer kit

[tight haven]

yea i think no matter what certain gear pieces will just see use

[mystic halo]

and chest

[tight haven]

tide fall chest, redeemer seals

[high finch]

No I use all sets from Iana sheet on my phys

With endmin

[tender zephyr]

What set perlica use on lr team?

[mystic halo]

lifeng also has a 3x swordmancer 1 seal that is good in endmin

[high finch]

And I run thermite with 1st option on pog with some er

[frozen tide]

Pulsar but it's mostly just for arts int

Set bonus is a lil extra

[high finch]

Yeah I only artificed this so far on phys https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086682564849684/1468652739696525384/image.png?ex=69896a33&is=698818b3&hm=21dc9ce7ebd3ff6ce539fa5806c6dc57f7971cb054caf263c1a9b8ce3efa8163&

[frozen tide]

Hardly makes a difference unless ur perlica is built af

[high finch]

Flint factory

[mystic halo]

the sets are for da pan so endmin charge threshold is going to be different

[high finch]

I was like lemme upgrade one with green nonset

And they just lvled all the way

Almost without failures

[tight haven]

goddamn gilberta hits like a fucking truck when shes built up right

[mystic halo]

current endmin best cycle vs dummy is using 9 skills per big rotation

[frozen tide]

I love gilb but i shouldn't pull for her

I must restrain

[mystic halo]

so the threshold is probably different

[high finch]

Isn’t this for endmin?

I use this one. Like all the ones from the sheet I use

[high finch]

You mean 9 skills per breach?

[mystic halo]

yeah that is ok but he hasnt updated it for newest developments yet(though he is working on it as he told me)

[mystic halo]

9 skills for each 4/3/4

[high finch]

I don’t get it

So what’s the secret test set you use on endmin now?

What is 4/3/4?

Like number of vulns you pop?

[frozen tide]

You have to pay for iana patron

To get the latest set updates

[tender zephyr]

frontier only for secondary stats? i dont see any sp recovery on her kit tho

[frozen tide]

Yup

Just for secondary

[mystic halo]

yeah

[high finch]

Is this a joke? Cause I can’t see any links in his profile

[frozen tide]

Yes i was

[high finch]

Dude

[sly nymph]

send da build

[high finch]

So in one breach you can do 3 crushes? I saw double crush and it was very tight. I wonder what’s the 3 crush rotation and also what gear is used thrrr

[mystic halo]

one 3 stack and one 4 stack crush

[high finch]

Ah,okay. I saw double 4 crushes

But i think you need to build lifeng into er to do that

[mystic halo]

double 4 is for finishing enemy

and it kills your sp so you cant start up again

[high finch]

Okay-okay

Smart

You’re cooking something?

[mystic halo]

there is also easier 4/3/3 for more comfort

and it has other advantages too

[high finch]

Man I want mountain bearer so bad but only have 4k arsenal tickets and a lot of pulls but I cba pulling Gilberta

Hope in 1.1 I will have some leftover arsenal pulls

[sly nymph]

it really good

[crude crag]

if u do your maths, xiranite set is better

[high finch]

Spear? Yeah ikr. I farmed it essence and it has 2 of the same stats to valiant so I upgraded it beforehand

So I won’t have to reinvest it in the future

Big brain move, temporary solution

[frozen tide]

How so

Xira is dmg percent which is diluted af already

Lr set pieces give dmg percent set effect gives dmg percent

Weapon gives dmg percent

And also ardelia already uses xira

And xira doesn't stack

[crude crag]

u can start by calculating the intellect difference with frontier and xiranite set

[high finch]

Dmg % is kinda ass. We have so much sources of it

[crude crag]

then see if the difference is more or less than the buff from xiranite set

[frozen tide]

Xira set effect does not stack

If you don't have anyone else in team using it it's considerable i suppose

But in a lr comp generally you have ardelia running xira

[peak void]

what set do i use on fortmaker pog, cant view the sheet on mobile

[crude crag]

have u calculated the intellect difference?

[sly nymph]

the electric set

[peak void]

whats the name

[sly nymph]

idk its yellow and purple and has arts jntensity everywehre

hope that helps

and then xiranite gloves

[sly nymph]

was my description not accurate.

[swift tundra]

doing some researching on arts intensity on lifeng. Pretty sure bottom number is the damage from Ult. Is the two numbers on top all from knockdown?
If so, Arts intensity lifeng is actually worth it.

[high finch]

I wish one of endmin future pots make his combo skill apply one vuln

It would make our life so much easier

[peak void]

wait what does arts intensity do for pog

[dry kindle]

Breach

[peak void]

wb breach

[dry kindle]

[peak void]

the dmg buff is stronger?

[dry kindle]

Yes

[peak void]

so this is like, pure support pog, little to no dmg type shi

[swift tundra]

At this rate, pog bis might actually just be fortmaker or a future 6* weapon with fatter ult efficiency and arts intensity lmao.

[sly nymph]

he doesnt do damage anyway

[mystic halo]

his dmg is very little even with his max personal damage set

[peak void]

bonekrusher?

[mystic halo]

yinglung(it still sucks)

[peak void]

damn, full support it is

[mystic halo]

that's the character

[peak void]

do we have like

[mystic halo]

only breach applier in the game

[peak void]

numbers on that

% vs yinglung and pulser

[mystic halo]

so yinglung also kills the rotation

[peak void]

okay nvm that absolutely sucks

[mystic halo]

I suppose there are comps where you can use 3x it

[peak void]

nope i love my rotations too much

[mystic halo]

and meet charge requirement of 30% or so

but you are just leaving 20% breach multiplier on the table

[peak void]

from arts intensity right

[mystic halo]

yes

[peak void]

man

[mystic halo]

max intensity set takes it to 49%

which is insane cause it's in its own bracket

[peak void]

yeah breach is a separate iirc

[swift tundra]

there's a guy on YT doing trimmed medal with Pog main dps. It's doable, but his damage really isn't good.

[high finch]

With thermit u use electric set and with fort u use which one?

[twilit quail]

ok so the stuff in the sheet

a lot is going to change in the next few days

cause this shit is all tied to the exact rotation

[high finch]

Oh okay I got it

[dry kindle]

Does it come with slab slander

[dusky iron]

Wouldn't Ardelia Sig weapon works on Xaihi as stat stick since her buff comes from getting alot of INT from main stat and secondary stat

[twilit quail]

we are approaching another layer of optimisation, basically

[dry kindle]

Yes

[twilit quail]

it can work

[dry kindle]

But you lose det or stanza

So like why

[high finch]

You’r working on Holidays?

[dry kindle]

I'm still waiting for tangtang to just implode everything

[high finch]

Nah this cant be real. I will never get rid of chen(cause she’s cute) lifeng cause I doubt he will be replaced soon and same goes for pog

Only replacement left is endmin I guess

[dusky iron]

Detonation unit, don't have it, and got copy of ardelia sig, figured I'd use it

[twilit quail]

sometimes Im at my hotel and have nothing to do

but also yes

I am still working while overseas

[sinful surge]

The factory will not build itself

[crude crag]

in case u have yet calculate the difference, xiranite set gives 300 intellect, frontier gives 400 intellect, 100 intellect difference gives 3% amp difference, BUT xiranite gives 16% extra dmg due to set buff hence xianite set is better for xaihi

[dry kindle]

Ardelia:

[high finch]

I can’t wait for new era of optimisation. Gonna save some of my artificing thingies

[dry kindle]

Inb4 no new gear till next region

[high finch]

Nah I mean the 4/3/4 optimised rotation which iana and opal mentioned

The tech

[gritty olive]

would it be better to assume 300 stagger + 15 second stagger duration or 150 stagger + 10 second stagger

[dry kindle]

Neither

[gritty olive]

i should assume no stagger as well

[dry kindle]

Rhodagn is 280 10

[twilit quail]

dude the physical page is gonna be 10k words

or something

[dry kindle]

Marble phase 2 is 320 11

Dorito 280 11

[high finch]

Finally. Now I can understand what I do instead of copy pasting. What’s the tldr of that build btw? Or it’s not yet fully figured out?

[gritty olive]

ive been assuming 150 + 10s staggered durstion

[high finch]

Move phys to t0

I believe in phys supremacy

Fuck lava

[twilit quail]

(it's still weaker than lae)

[dry kindle]

I need to go do trims finally

[high finch]

It will become better with some endmin pots or maybe future phys character

Maybe even in 1.1

[dry kindle]

Tangtang 🔥

[high finch]

Lava is like: invest 1 char and go pump. Phys is like: invest everyone but you gonna be worse than lava. But at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter cause content (atleast for now) is a walk in the park, even trimmed medals

So we play the teams we enjoy more

[twilit quail]

both teams are missing units anyway

[high finch]

I wanna artifice the er set for lava. Does this also mean I need huge er on ake/antal? or I just ult with supports every second rotation?

[dry kindle]

Rossi will buff the shit out of laev comp trust

[high finch]

Rossi is the wolf loli?

[manic blade]

I believe

[dry kindle]

Don't they already line up

[high finch]

I dunno. Haven’t tried that build on lava yet

I articifed the general tide+hotwork set

Now I wanna do the er one

[dry kindle]

I'm too busy malding without p5 wulf

[gritty olive]

currently ult spam on forge is better

until i determine more stuff

[high finch]

I Believe every single word you say

And I will commit to er set

[gritty olive]

blind following leads to ruin

i always recommend to crosscheck calcs

[high finch]

Did anyone else calced the er set?

[gritty olive]

iana sheet said its -30% damage per rot

[high finch]

I haven’t seen one

[manic blade]

calcs say double slab run double slab

[gritty olive]

idk what their rot is, but i managed to match 210% ult

[dry kindle]

Its -30 dpsp

[gritty olive]

what the hell!

[twilit quail]

fuck it imma start believing people

[outer ermine]

wow

[gritty olive]

[high finch]

But -30dpsp per ult? I mean if you ult twice as much it’s not a loss

[swift tundra]

most of the vids on bilibili seem to swear by it too. I'm just waiting for an actual demonstration video as comparison.

[gritty olive]

iana how long was your rotation on 210% ult build

[high finch]

Like if we assume rotation is 1 ult burst window and losing 30% but we have twice as fast rotations isn’t it a win?

[dry kindle]

Iana we need need the slab slander

[earnest patio]

Arts boost and arts dmg boost is same right

[high finch]

If only ppl could put slab in every single gear slot….

[dry mason]

[high finch]

Full slab build

[dry kindle]

Tf is arts boost

[jagged tiger]

Hello chat

[manic blade]

modded quad slab build when

[earnest patio]

Wolfguard cannibal weapon

Also how does rotation changes with cannibal

[jagged tiger]

Uhm running Last rite, Xaihi, Ardelia and Fluorite team

Wanna replace fluorite for sb better

[outer ermine]

perlica, ake

[jagged tiger]

Not sure who though

[gritty olive]

non phys damage

[high finch]

I think it doesn’t really cause you don’t have enough sp to fit that extra wolf skill

[dry kindle]

Oh fuck offffff

[gritty olive]

can you screenshot an explicit example

[jagged tiger]

Don't the element of ake conflit with the rest of the group

[earnest patio]

So my pulls for cannibal was a waste

[high finch]

Kinda….

[earnest patio]

I literally did extra full for guarantee weapon

[high finch]

It’s not really good

[earnest patio]

Nawww

[outer ermine]

shes just there for link, just ult when lr's ulting

[jagged tiger]

Cannibals?

[high finch]

The tech

[earnest patio]

Yep the gun

[jagged tiger]

Oh clannibal

[earnest patio]

Breh

[copper cypress]

How could I possibly build Angelina without her 6 star weapons

[gritty olive]

cLLLLLanibbaLLLLL

[dry kindle]

🔥

[high finch]

What do they say?

[jagged tiger]

It's okay bros you're just missing an L
And missing L is what everybody wants

[gritty olive]

if the chinese are doing double slab im all for it

[jagged tiger]

[high finch]

Man,your nickname is kinda cool

[outer ermine]

[gritty olive]

does love even have a lot of dmg%

[twilit quail]

it says

slab dogshit

[jagged tiger]

Omg sworce

[dry kindle]

Why is half of my bili fuckin leaks or horni mods

[swift tundra]

basically numbers on spreadsheet doesn't translate well to practicality because of skill issue

[outer ermine]

doesnt bili have its own en translator bruh

[dry kindle]

Double slab doesn't even win on spreadsheets

[manic blade]

some weird cookies ya got

[gritty olive]

a

[unkempt oak]

crit set is the true dynasty

[high finch]

I have a question about er set on lava. You said it’s 30 dpsp loss is this assumed that er set has faster rotations so at the end it’s actually increase in total dmg? Like the rotation is based on 1 ult burst window?

[unkempt oak]

[gritty olive]

🤫 cookies are dumvass

[twilit quail]

well yeah

since you are ulting without a second standard cycle

the dpsp loss is real but yes the rot is faster

[high finch]

I wanna learn that “god-tier 7 skill rotation” Inb4 it gets fixed

[twilit quail]

whether or not it's better depends on fight

[dry kindle]

Die

[gritty olive]

its 10% bettee for me

= use ult spam

[swift tundra]

watch that become the baseline rotation people use in spreadsheets. XD

[outer ermine]

[unkempt oak]

we are never hearing the end of this

[dry kindle]

Where tf

[high finch]

Yeah,the god-tier tech

[gritty olive]

where wha trhe fuck

[visual sand]

Quick question, why is it that ember doesn't have wings like the other sankta?

[outer ermine]

settings and language(语言)

[dry kindle]

Oh wait right

[dry kindle]

I haven't updated the app in like a year

[outer ermine]

[twilit quail]

【什么叫15秒大招能打【7次】强化战技！？ - 明日方舟：终末地-哔哩哔哩】 https://vxb23.tv/y9YyIms

[gritty olive]

wait what can you give me a bilibili download link

just bilibili, done?

[high finch]

So if we lose dpsp but rotation is faster on an infinite timeline isn’t it an actual total dps increase?

[high finch]

If only I could understand shit on this image

[swift tundra]

I feel like if they release a dedicated buffer for laeva team, best set can easily change. As long as your set can get trimmed medal, then its good enough.

[dry kindle]

Akekuri antal 🔥

[twilit quail]

this isnt particularly relevant because we will always have to deal with the circumstances of the encounter/boss

[dry kindle]

Just look at the top

[manic blade]

antal 🤮

[jagged tiger]

Can we agree on Xaihi best girl?

[swift tundra]

yooo, that's the team comp I saw the other day that did a sub minute run on Rhodagn. XD

[twilit quail]

wulf needs more charge if lae has p1

241% instead of 232%

[high finch]

Oh okay, that makes it easier. Gonna try it when I come home today

[gritty olive]

suzuran

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1469332220689911850/95432420d712308dc0cf6101605d37938489578_________________1.webp

[unkempt oak]

that needs max obj right?

[high finch]

Oh yeah. The stupid transitions,flying around and shit…

[dry kindle]

Bruh this ui sucks

[high finch]

Shes quite cute. But im not gonna touch lr till I get her wpn

[gritty olive]

DALAO DALAO DALAO DALAO

[dry kindle]

Where's my old ui

Waaah

[outer ermine]

we have the same fyp

[dry kindle]

That's better

[gritty olive]

look at this shit

holy massive W

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

sadly i still need to refer to CN names when doing IS

it doesnt properly find heavenly paradise f6 stage

[high finch]

What is “e” there?

[outer ermine]

theres some stuff missing like biligaming w translated so u need to switch back or get the widget for those

[dry kindle]

Combo

[high finch]

Oh yeah, I somehow forgot it

[dry kindle]

Wut widget

[high finch]

And the lines show when you swap characters?

[outer ermine]

first one, its been years so i forgor how u set them gl

[dry kindle]

Fuckin useless mf

[tacit pasture]

did you end up getting any?

[outer ermine]

[dry kindle]

...

[high finch]

Okay,today evening im learning the 7 or atleast seven ench skills lava rotation

[high finch]

I guess bro loves the game

Supporting the devs

[gritty olive]

theres like a person who bought 500

in HSR

[high finch]

Meh… I have a list of rules

[swift tundra]

it's quite expensive. Not sure if ult efficiency is needed to achieve certain breakpoints, but he has rank 8/9 ult efficiency on all his support weapons. That's a lot of coolant gel.

[high finch]

Rule #1

Fuck hoyoslop

Rule #2 never playing hoyogames

It’s even difficult to call “that” a game

[high finch]

So you just invest it and it gets nerfed?

[swift tundra]

I'll learn it when it's needed. I'm perfectly fine with still getting trimmed medal despite rolling my arm over the keyboard.

[gritty olive]

bringing others down to prause something else is disrespectful

[outer ermine]

cute

[dire nymph]

can someone make slabge

[gritty olive]

i already have mine like at least since a week agi

[winged delta]

Found a random guy in FL with full maxed out Laevatein

Can't conceive how much it cost him

His description: "whale"

[gritty olive]

❤️

[winged delta]

Has been logged off for 4 days now

🥔

[gritty olive]

do consider that weapon pulls are obtained from op pulls

[dire nymph]

<3

[gritty olive]

so full whale should cost less than other games

[winged delta]

He has max gear and essence tho

[gritty olive]

[dire nymph]

ive just been fucking around with whatever on lifeng until umbral

wish i got p3 instead of pog p2 on ange’s banner

[fresh lynx]

how much of a Dps increase to Avywenna would it be if her basic attacks were electric instead of physical?

[midnight stirrup]

You say that but a majority of Arknights base plays the same as Genshin

[lime bear]

to buy Valiant or to not buy

that is the question

[midnight stirrup]

Just say you dislike the developer and keep it pushing

[dire nymph]

i have sig

so idk

[lime bear]

wtf whel

[high finch]

We have cult of the slab lurking around,huh?

[dire nymph]

my phys team is on sigs then i swapped pog to fortmaker

[gritty olive]

prywden slab

[lime bear]

why not thermite

[high finch]

I don’t play more than 1 gacha at a time. I played wuwa before but with ak release I dropped it

[dire nymph]

on akekuri

[midnight stirrup]

I dont know what this has to do with what I said

[dire nymph]

im ngl i just like how fortmaker looks better

[midnight stirrup]

You said Hoyo can barely be called a game but AK plays very similar to Genshin in a lot of ways

Is AK barely a game too then?

[dire nymph]

only real games are gun and ball games

[gritty olive]

best to make endfield distinct to og ak

[high finch]

Imo the story is shit atleast in gi, hi3 I kinda enjoyed. The ingame cutscenes are absolutely terrible and the developers attitude to players is ….. not gud at the very least

[gritty olive]

[high finch]

You’r mad insane

[outer ermine]

u have a ping from perlica, shes gonna give u 30k

[blazing sluice]

Will i need gilberta for zhuang?

[blazing sluice]

Grass is scared of bro

[midnight stirrup]

And thats fine. I dont necessarily agree or disagree

But just say that or that you dislike how the developer treats the game then

[dire nymph]

had to kill uma on phone to fit endfield on release

[midnight stirrup]

Was too lazy

[dire nymph]

we dont know

try dming lowlight

[midnight stirrup]

We dont know

[gritty olive]

its too early to tell

we have an emoji for this

[midnight stirrup]

Shell be a heat inflictor that heals

[high finch]

The game itself also isn’t very good. But let’s not talk about that here a lot. At the end of the day it’s my imo and my rules. I just really dislike that company that’s all

[midnight stirrup]

Source: trust me bro

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

shouldnt talk about macros here

even if AKO is more lax than AKEFO, best not to since its a different set of mods

[dry kindle]

Explode

[valid zealot]

what macros.

[high finch]

I wanna try out original ak. Is it worth it?

Just on my phone chilling when I have free time at work

[midnight stirrup]

What the helly are macros

[gritty olive]

well it kinda tests your patience to learn a stage and knowing when you hit a wall

[gritty olive]

auto clickers

[midnight stirrup]

Oh right

[gritty olive]

endfieldaxis timeline has a .json file downloader for it

[midnight stirrup]

Interesting

[gritty olive]

so im really concerned on its existence

[midnight stirrup]

Why would you use that tho

Manually controlling combat is fun

[gritty olive]

for those macros

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

there are lazy people that do this in order to scroll three more tiktok vids

productivity!

[valid zealot]

Is it for auto farming or smth.

[gritty olive]

im concerned about endaxis cuz it might be a blacklisted site down the line

might need to forward it to modmail

[dry kindle]

It'll be fineeeeeeeee

Probably

[gritty olive]

anything related to TOS breaking content if the sites primary services are to provide them would prob lead to an irremoveable ban

and expect macros to be included

[valid zealot]

IremWaitaMeowment

[dry kindle]

[blazing sluice]

Is electric + nature electrification or corrosion

[orchid agate]

do u guys have any idea if there's gonna be a gamemode where we will need multiple teams? or there's no info abt it yet?

[gritty olive]

no info about it

[dry kindle]

eventuallyTM

[gritty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[burnt zodiac]

what set should I level for Lava? the red one or the ultima one

[high finch]

Second element is the one which determines the reaction

It can be anything+electro=electrification

Anything+nature=corrosion

[blazing sluice]

Does gilberta apply first or second

[woeful plume]

they produce straight up macros???

[peak void]

how long does breach last

[high finch]

You apply it with character abilities

You want corrosion, throw in something and than finish with Gil skill

[blazing sluice]

No like
Can gilberta avoid corrosion?

Apply nature first and not touch it

[high finch]

Yes

[eternal pilot]

hello! i got p2 lifeng and p2 pog and running them sustainless w/ chen and endmin, so i was wondering if there are any proper guides out there that explicitly states the timing/rotation of pressing skills + triggering combo skill (the pinned spreadhseet doesnt have one)

[mortal trellis]

it depends on the boss youre fighting/if youre fighting a boss at all

also depends on how much damage you do/how fast you can deal it since that changes when you hit stagger/phase transitions/etc.

[woeful plume]

yup, endmin main is a very damage control comp

since u can decide when to cash out the vuln

but to get an idea on how the team functions you can probably refer to a yt video, there should be some

[mortal trellis]

rhodagn is one big punching bag, you do one long rotation for him
traiggelos is medium punching bags but phases 1 & 2 are very important to one-cycle (kill in one stagger)
marble is 4 tiny punching bags, 1 medium punching bag, and 1 big punching bag, very damage breakpoint reliant on killing the tentacles efficiently while sparing enough resources for the orb
other stuff like common mobs should just melt no matter what you run if your units are properly built so its not a worry (for now)

[silent dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfalqX8p-So this video gave me motivation to potentially build ember

[twilit quail]

Im working on significant updates to physical rn because it's the only team worth talking about in detail

[mortal trellis]

oh iana i was curious, do you have your calcs public somewhere?

[eternal pilot]

im ngl this is the reason why im learning rotations now (since i have 0 interest in getting ember and lifeng being on my team is top priority)

[twilit quail]

no, and I do all of them in chinese

cba to make them readable in en

[mortal trellis]

i can deal with chinese

[eternal pilot]

WAIT ARE U THE MAKER OF THE SPREADSHEET

[mortal trellis]

are they like on a spreadsheet or something? i default to desmos so i just kinda assumed that

[eternal pilot]

i met a celebrity

[mortal trellis]

they're a celebrity?

[eternal pilot]

will also say i have p2 lifeng and p2 pog (well i did alr) so im not sure if that changes rotations

[open hare]

Guys I think my last rite didn't eat enough today

[mortal trellis]

id do more of my own calcs but i'm not 100% familiar with the game's formulas yet since i didn't play CBT

[peak void]

We should make spreadsheets too fr

[mortal trellis]

the only thing it looks like it changes is giving you more liberty with over-applying vuln and when you use lifeng's battle skill

[mortal trellis]

oh yeah im about to go test the breach timers since i also cant find any info so i'll lyk

[peak void]

oh thank u sm

[eternal pilot]

oh btw whats the endmin priority for talent upgrade it doesnt say it there either

[peak void]

i just need it to be more than 15 seconds

[gritty olive]

its p simple for now

you can prob do stuff like this soon if you put your heart to it

but it needs meticulous data profiling

[peak void]

:ya:

[gritty olive]

[mortal trellis]

i just dunno the formulas lol

[mortal trellis]

is that a public spreadsheet?

[manic blade]

set calcs???

[silent dagger]

Do we know what's the definitive best build for laev?
EG: Tide vs lynx slab etc

[mortal trellis]

@peak void seems like each stack of vuln consumed is +7.5s to breach duration
idk how it affects breach damage amp

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-shocked-meme-funny-gif-16202716903781766308

kura u might as well just calculate slabs so ppl STOP ASKING ABT IT

[mortal trellis]

isn't slab slop as fuck

[peak void]

woah so it does differ with stacks
well at least its 30s, definitely beats frontier then 😆

[silent dagger]

thats what i want to know, i had some people say to me earlier that slab is better because of the attribute

[peak void]

was debating frontier vs pulser on pog, now im just absolutely convinced

[mortal trellis]

probably depends on your current progression but at max invest im pretty sure its outclassed

[twilit quail]

slab is only desirable at 5+5

[mortal trellis]

whats 5+5?

[twilit quail]

max char and wpn dupe

[manic blade]

is it still even optimal then

[silent dagger]

whats outclassed?

[mortal trellis]

interesting

[mortal trellis]

worse

i was assuming p0 but idk about p5

[twilit quail]

and even there it's kinda dubious

[silent dagger]

I personally use this for my laev, but i was debating on making a slab equipment set - (the 3 heat , 1 slab kit)

[twilit quail]

you should only use it if you are completely handless

[eternal pilot]

btw the "52.6 charge rate" breakpoint is refering to ult gain efficiency for pog right

[mortal trellis]

wtf is handless

ive never heard of these terms yet

[silent dagger]

handless means no skill

[manic blade]

honestly one slab might be better than my dog off piece armor

[mortal trellis]

interesting

[mortal trellis]

i just run 2x hot work kits + xiranite gloves/chest

[manic blade]

do you have p5? if not run that...

[mortal trellis]

might swap xiranite gloves for hot work gloves but idk

idt set bonus is worth

[silent dagger]

run what? i have p2 only

[manic blade]

what u have in ss you need tide fall

[twilit quail]

to be clear I am talking about double slab

tide hotworks

single slab is complete delusion

not worth discussing

[silent dagger]

double slab and no set ?

[twilit quail]

yes

[manic blade]

I mean is it better than int base atk % MI security armor LOL

[mortal trellis]

iana is your calcs sheet in chinese shareable cause i can read chinese, i just wanted to see how you do calcs

[twilit quail]

crit is a similar thing where it looks good on paper if you wrangle the calcs in favour of it

[dry kindle]

isnt that one just not using bskill at all as well

[frozen tide]

you need to 1 cycle second phase

otherwise extremely hard to get the trim

since the invinc phase second time takes 10 years to clear as rite

[peak void]

fortmaker or nah?

fortmaker lets me run xiranite gloves + a 3 set

[mortal trellis]

na

[peak void]

yea ig thats ayt for non-fort

arts intensity + ult charge

[manic blade]

laev gearing hurts my head

[tranquil burrow]

qyurii: You currently have 10130 points.

[peak void]

woah

[tranquil burrow]

schling0704: You currently have 9880 points.

[silent dagger]

whats points view?

[peak void]

idk

[open hare]

F this dudes second phase

Im slapping his fat aggeloid bum in

Third one is fat

[tranquil burrow]

theacc: You currently have 4560 points.

[mortal trellis]

fake

[frozen tide]

nice

[sand pike]

how does Ancient Canal compare to Exemplar for Pan?

[midnight stirrup]

Second phase is easy

You just have a short timer after he did the mob spawn before he rotates back into it

And then ur cooked

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[gritty olive]

the set calcs are only standard(3hotwork) or 210% ult

ill calc slab with raizers ideas

[peak void]

haha less points

[mortal trellis]

aw damn its just for laevatain

im trying to ask for iana's spreadsheet since im curious how calcs are done but i'm getting donowalled 💔

[tranquil burrow]

callmeamas: You currently have 1600 points.

[wild meteor]

is there a turn order for gilberta over adelia?

[mortal trellis]

wait wtf are substats

[sand pike]

thoughts so far on Gil's BP sig?

[civic wolf]

er so whats the recommended set for each of Lifeng, Chen and Endmin? Currently doing Bonekrusha Lifeng, Swordmancer Chen and Aethertech endmin

i run xiranite pog cuz i wanna spam ults

[elder skiff]

stanza of memorials (5*) is better than bp sig, arguably better than her sig as well just in terms of damage buffing, but her sig has better ult uptime, bp sig doesn't compare to both of them

[sand pike]

damn

[elder skiff]

first bp weapon options are kinda mid, so just keep the chest that open potentials for future ones

if u buy the paid bp

[civic wolf]

also wtf is arts intensity

[atomic needle]

Is Gilberta worth pulling? I have Lavae

[civic wolf]

whats better between DMG bonus when staggered vs Physical damage bonus?

[frozen tide]

really good

tho idk how well p0 fares in comparison to higher pot alternatives

most comps apply some form of arts reaction

[sour notch]

is there a comparison between Ginseng Meat Stew and Jakubs Legacy? which one is better and how big the difference is

[high finch]

They’re same but % to staggered is higher on the items but you need to play around stagger windows to make it work

So 20% or something works all the time

[eternal pilot]

resending my questions that got flooded before:

1. on the pinned screenshot, does "charge rate" refer to ultimate gain efficiency specifically for pog?
2. whats the levelling priority for endministrator
3. can anyone send a proper rotation for my physical team? (endmin-lifeng-pog-chen), atm ive been doing:
   Lifeng Skill -> Chen Combo -> Endmin Combo -> Endmin Finisher -> Lifeng Combo -> Endmin Skill (Crush) -> Pog Combo but im not sure what to do during the combo skill downtime

[high finch]

40% or something to staggered works…. When enemy is staggered

[high finch]

Why do you do endmin finisher before pog breach?

You can watch rotation here https://youtu.be/ufkMoHaeB50?si=iK9rtcEUnXuFXifF but gear in pinned messages in this channel

[frozen tide]

you get 4 stacks use it for breach and next cycle use the 4 stacks for crush

[eternal pilot]

yeye ive followed the gear alr, THANK YOUU

[open hare]

Charge set or normal artifice with umbrella?

Umbral

[zinc maple]

what dpsp stands for

[frozen tide]

ive heard claims that charge set is better even with umbral but intuitively normal set would make more sense since the base argument for charge set is that laev sig gives shitload of dmg for ult

very well could be either way without actual calcs tho

[pine warren]

Does it make Sense to use Gel for +6 Etching Essence? Since the game says very Low Chance on both but +5 needs 250gel and +6 450, are the chances lower for +6?`since its cost doubles

[open hare]

👍

@lyric marsh check here

[daring dove]

As much as people like to meme on Ember some of her art is peak.

[fringe dirge]

How much sp does final strike give?
And how much sp does finisher give?

[midnight stirrup]

Dps? Damage per second

[civic wolf]

huh

its better to go full ult gain than it is to do Frontiers on Ake?

[midnight stirrup]

Differs per character

[civic wolf]

is ult gain THAT busted lmao

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

[next helm]

frontiers is kinda mid

[midnight stirrup]

If you running thermite u want er set

If u running frontier u want er weapon

[midnight stirrup]

Theres a lack of Last Rite art smh

[high finch]

But don’t artifice it yet iana is preparing big update for phys guide so we gonna wait a bit while he cooks

[wild meteor]

how impt is the ult set for laevatain?

[midnight stirrup]

This works for now tho

[fringe dirge]

Is there a spreadsheet with the sp gain for final strike per character?

[midnight stirrup]

Probably but not public

[eternal pilot]

Current Investments in Physical Team;
P2 Endministrator - Lv80/80, Lv80 Grand Vision, 6-8-7-8 Combat Levels
P2 Lifeng - Lv81/90, Lv81 Mountain Bearer, All 9s
P2 Pog - Lv80/80, Lv80 Thermite Cutter, 4-9-6-9
P1 Chen (yes my lowest potential is in a 5 star haha), LV80/80, Lv60 R2 Sundering Steel, 3-6-6-9

which ones should i focus more in terms of investment

[eternal pilot]

uh oh

[midnight stirrup]

@dry kindle knows

[daring dove]

I actually think LR's P3 & P5 art a bit boring, I love her P1 art though that's one of my favourites.

[midnight stirrup]

Her p3 art is bad

[eternal pilot]

aaa

[midnight stirrup]

Her p5 art is majestic

I dont know how u are able to dislike it

Cinema

[peak void]

damage per skill point

[civic wolf]

loud nigra.mp3

[high finch]

I think pog is fine. Dont overinvest rest until we know for sure. I mean if you want you can do it but there’s no rush

[rugged vale]

I wsh her and pogchamp appeared in the story, order of the steel oath looks cool

[eternal pilot]

oh yeah no i havent haha, i just artificed ult gain eff

[midnight stirrup]

Theyre from the snow region like Last Rite

Doubt well see them anytime soon

Sadge

[zinc maple]

ahh alright thanks

[high finch]

Man I want mountain bearer… how many pulls it took you?

[daring dove]

I imagine a lot of them will eventually, we're just not at that point yet.

[rugged vale]

yeah but probs in a long time

[eternal pilot]

do you want me to answer that

-# didnt know i was lucky but it took one 10 pull

[civic wolf]

whats the context behind Frontiers Xaihi?

[next helm]

int stacking

it just happens to have frontiers

[peak void]

I require the knowledge

endmin

[high finch]

Man… I have a lot of pulls but I’m saving for future chars. Dont have cashback for wpn

I hope I get lucky in 1.1 and gonna have some arsenal ticket leftovers so I can pull mountain bearer

Lifeng must rise

[civic wolf]

yeah but does Xaihi even have SP regain lol

[next helm]

the setbonus is irrelevant

Its just the best pieces for int

[eternal pilot]

me only having p2 pog and p2 lifeng as my standard (excluding ardellia) feels so nice

[daring dove]

Anyway Genshin style events confirmed where you can't just complete them when they drop.

To be fair that's most live service games

[sour notch]

sorry for Copypasting this one.
is there a comparison between Ginseng Meat Stew and Jakubs Legacy? which one is better and how big the difference is
Or there is no data?

[civic wolf]

does Last Rite still outscale Yvonne even when ist using Lung vs BP weapon?

kinda bummed out about Last Rite's sig 'need' but eh

[daring dove]

It's not needed but it is 15% better than the closest generalist alternative.

An with her being a hyper carry 15% damage more on her makes up about 13-14% more team damage.

[lime bear]

Ginseng is simply better because flat atk

[sour notch]

Because how Base attack calculates?

[high finch]

I got p1 lifeng and lr from std and newbie banner

[sour notch]

Got my answer. Thanks

[short belfry]

hi, i watched my friend's electro team and the dmg goes crazy

[lime bear]

Basic ATK = Base ATK + ATK Bonus

[grave flame]

How good P3 last rite DPS/ttk in comparison to Laev?

[rigid wave]

[willow blade]

is maxing the intellect on the pyrometer and strength on tide even worth it?

[civic wolf]

i dont even have that i have lung lmao

[daring dove]

Finally got my 6% ATK upgrade for my weapon just 1 more to go..

[willow blade]

why did you not max intellect first?

[daring dove]

ATK% scales better.

[willow blade]

does it?

[sour notch]

Yeah. Went in and tested by eating. Thanks for the answer

[daring dove]

Yeah ATK% boosts your base ATK so 6% MORE ATK% is almost 6% more damage.

[grave flame]

And also why last rite P3 even mentioned in guide if p4 is her strongest dupe?

[willow blade]

btw can anyone enlighten me on this

[pine warren]

You get enough to buy plenty in the future for other chars so yeh

[elder skiff]

p3 increases 2 of her main damage source by 15%, p4 doesn't do much unless u change your whole rotations to play around it

[daring dove]

Shows it here, base atk of 828 naturally, but because of my 39% ATK that base ATK becomes 1150. INT just multiplies the final number. An when you have artificed your gear you're already very INT saturated anyway.

[lime bear]

at max Base is 828, Bonus is 39%.

if Jakub which +27% ATK bonus it's BA = 828 * (1 +0.39 + 0.27) = 828 * 1.66 = 1374.38

if Ginseng which is +180 Base ATK it's BA = (828 + 180) * 1.39 = 1008 * 1.39 = 1401.12

[willow blade]

i see

[lime bear]

26 ATK diff

pretty significant since it'll scale with your attribute

[eternal pilot]

up, atm im trying to go for the trimmed medals and i dont know if lv90 is worth it and if i should lv9 all their skills

[frozen tide]

can someone double check my calculation on smth

[lime bear]

just finished, I maxed my int first success somehow then used 450 gel for the atk boost

[lime bear]

what tf do I farm for now

2nd team??

[pine warren]

All Skills lv12

[daring dove]

Nice I failed 45 times on mine.

[grave flame]

Her P3 team damage boost is about 8%, and p4 allow for ult after every combo skill, which is way higher damage increase, like 20%+

[lime bear]

redundant af

M6 alr enough

[elder skiff]

trimmed medals are not really that hard, esp for physical team which is the most completed team rn and the best against bosses, so just attempt doing it and if u can't then start improving your team

[grave flame]

So it seems questionable to mention P3 like main damage boost for last rite or smthing she really wants, when it's just minor damage increase

Especially in comparison to p4

[lime bear]

I think Phys really wins cuz the stagger and stuff, for Laevatain you need pretty big investment and levels cuz if not you won't be able to stagger it fast enough and the boss especially Triaggelos and Marble gonna do their stupid move and invul losing time

I did perfect rotation before 7/6/4 essence before with Laevatain hyper + Ginseng and didn't clear it

[eternal pilot]

yeah my time clear atm is 2:30

[lime bear]

when I got to M3 + 8/8/4 I cleared it easily with imperfect rotation

[elder skiff]

phys needs the most investment out of every team rn cause every single one of them is doing damage, arts teams just need their dps maxed out and their supports at 60/80, they are way more beginner-friendly

[lime bear]

the boss just got staggered quick enough

[lime bear]

true but still idk if I want to raise Physical rn, Lifeng is needy and needs Valiant smh

don't wanna waste my arsenal for it