theorycrafting

[next helm]

9%? i think

[terse furnace]

Does det unit's secondary buff meaningfully matter in this case? If you have enough Int already, you're getting a 30% buff so getting over the amount necessary shouldn't matter

[viral stirrup]

yo chat, i'm trying to find some equipement for pog (the frontier armor) but rn i can't craft it. Do i need to advance on the story to do so or how exactly ?

[summer flower]

i wonder who i could fit gilberta with

[midnight stirrup]

Kinda mid

[next helm]

The 30% is on int only its not a cap

[terse furnace]

Yes, I'm saying can we hit the amount of Int necessary to hit the 30% cap without using Det Unit?

[next helm]

1200 int

Gl

[terse furnace]

It's not 1200

[drifting quest]

det doesnt help you reach the int

[terse furnace]

We';ve had this discussion before

[drifting quest]

it doesnt provide any

[next helm]

It doesn't?

[drifting quest]

no it does

im dumb

i thought it was main att x2

16%

[next helm]

I thought someone here tested it an noticed that you could go beyond the "cap"

[summer flower]

intelect raises amp limit 30% so its limit

[terse furnace]

You only need this much int to hit the cap at lvl 9

[summer flower]

it has base

[terse furnace]

Someone else made the mistake of needing 1200 Int in the past

Which I'm not even sure it's physically possible atm

[drifting quest]

450 or so sounds right

since 12% would be 500

[summer flower]

1200 int

[terse furnace]

I'm fairly certain you do not need the Det Unit's passive to hit that amount

[midnight stirrup]

How do you even calculate that

[summer flower]

mastery 3 its 1200 int

[drifting quest]

frontiers has a lot

[midnight stirrup]

What is the increase per int based on

[terse furnace]

Yeah exactly

[drifting quest]

m3 is 500 int

[terse furnace]

So the secondary attribute increase from Det Unit actually doesn't do anything

[summer flower]

0.36%/ 0.03%

[drifting quest]

m3 might not even be 500

i didnt check

[terse furnace]

it's 400 int

even easier reqs

[summer flower]

wait what?

[terse furnace]

amp cap is 36%
It gives base amp of 24%
36-24% = 12%

THis is M3

[drifting quest]

x2 o2 tubes is 20.7x2 - 26.9x2, 21-27 int
body is 10.4 - 13.5, 58-75 int

[summer flower]

amp itself

states that its cap from int

[drifting quest]

the amp does not increase by 30%

[summer flower]

so if behaviour is different

[drifting quest]

it increases to 30%

[summer flower]

its bad tooltip/wrong behaviour

[drifting quest]

the base is 19%

[terse furnace]

The Amp limit is the actual limit, it's just worded poorly

[drifting quest]

so you cap out at 11% amp from int

[terse furnace]

^

It would be ridiculous if any character in the game wanted you to hit over 1k stats

[drifting quest]

i dont disagree wording sucks

[summer flower]

is that gilberta?

[drifting quest]

xaihi

[terse furnace]

it's Xaihi

[summer flower]

yea i'm investing to check this

gib me sec maybe i have everything i need

[daring dove]

Tomorrow I'll finally be able to get the 39% ATK on my Laevatain weapon. Should be a very nice damage uplift.

[terse furnace]

I want to note that it's physically impossible fro any character to hit 1k in any stat off of gear alone atm

[summer flower]

59/60 oof

man i'm checking this

[dusk zenith]

how is aethertech on endmin compared to the sets in pins

[summer flower]

even tho its a lot of investment

can someone tell me which weapon for xaihi would yield most intelect?

[next helm]

I really thought someone tested it

[summer flower]

any +int?

[next helm]

Like I am not telling you you are wrong ofc, but I remember someone doing that in this chat

[terse furnace]

If you're that desperate

But like seriously think about it for as econd

Do you think that the devs would really try to force you to run 1200 int on a character who doesn't mainstat it?

Seriously?

Also how the hell do you plan on hitting 1200?

[next helm]

there is no force you

[summer flower]

there is no force you

[terse furnace]

"encourage" you

There

It's just unreasonable logic

But sure, go test it lol

[summer flower]

no, cap is at arbitrary point

which gear was secondary stat %?

[midnight stirrup]

@terse furnace What do you calculate the 0,016 off to reach the 450 ish

I dont understand how the amp per int is calculated

[summer flower]

so what's int to get over cap without investing in skill itself?

at lv1?

[drifting quest]

can someone show their xaihi

level + int + sources

[terse furnace]

I'm raising my Xaihi rn, give mea bout 3 days lul

[midnight stirrup]

Sure

What do you want me to screen

or rather

hollon

[drifting quest]

just a screenshot of her, her current int unbuffed, and what sources of int she has

[ocean hawk]

i have unupgraded xaihi

or u need the proper one

[summer flower]

what gear was secondary stat +%?

[drifting quest]

want to check if its roughly looking right

[dusk zenith]

is there a big gap between aethertech endmin vs the sets in pins

[daring dove]

Wait the cheap ones don't refresh it's just the 60k ones.

[drifting quest]

for 0/1/2/3 artifices on gear

weapon is 1/2/3/4

essence

[ocean hawk]

60 and 120 ones

[frigid vector]

that's why I haven't touched these and only been buying out the weeklies

[next helm]

I've legit bought 0

[jovial grove]

120k refreshes

no?

[ocean hawk]

yeah, im adding 120k bcoz striker only said 60 ones

[frigid vector]

2nd wuling outpost

can't come fast enough

[drifting quest]

1.1

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest

[drifting quest]

raaah

[midnight stirrup]

This good?

[next helm]

Content can't be fast enough

[drifting quest]

yeah

give me a minute

[midnight stirrup]

Didnt artifice tho

and she gets +15 from P4

int

[gritty olive]

ok ill do it

hold on

[drifting quest]

ok im like 20 int off

[drifting quest]

base int 89?

[midnight stirrup]

uh

like without gear?

lemme check

[drifting quest]

yeah

should be able to check on stat screen

no need to unequip

[midnight stirrup]

It still shows 452 on intellect

cant find base int

might be legally blind

[summer flower]

60 without skills is 164

wait no i have weapon

[midnight stirrup]

where u seeing this

lol

[summer flower]

89

i have fresh xaihi

without any perks increasing int etc

[midnight stirrup]

im asking where u seeing the base int stat

did you just unequip

[drifting quest]

89 base
58 armour
65 gloves
21 each o2 tube
sum 254

16% wep
10.4% armour
20.7% each tube
67.8% %

254 x 1.678 = 426.212
you have 26 more int though

[summer flower]

i just have naked 60/80

[drifting quest]

im missing something

im assuming its on the base

or i just misinputted a value

[summer flower]

% int wep?

[midnight stirrup]

uh

[gritty olive]

i made emojis now

[midnight stirrup]

u didnt include p4

15 int

[drifting quest]

thatd be it

yeah

fixes

[midnight stirrup]

wait

so did I reach buff cap

[drifting quest]

weapon can take it higher but doesnt need to

[summer flower]

reduce int then

check if dmg same

[gritty olive]

?

did i do it correctly or

[drifting quest]

0 artificed non det sl9 xaihi on frontiers makes it

same for m3

so yeah det isnt needed for ult

xiranite it'll matter

[next helm]

What else do you run

[daring dove]

I wonder if reaching 6k ATK is possible with the ult gain set without buffs. I still have about 30 more INT to gain on top of that, an 6% more ATK.

At that point all I'm missing is a little STR but that hardly make a difference.

[summer flower]

so how much int to get to cap?

for no investment in skill?

[sudden lichen]

Did people use the team build tool here?

[gritty olive]

[summer flower]

@drifting quest so whats gonna be cap at rank8 of ult for xhaixi?

[drifting quest]

12% so 500

[drifting quest]

honestly would be nice to have if i had nitro

for team stuff

look at the pretty picture

no read

[summer flower]

hmm is there int roid?

[gritty olive]

buy basic

[drifting quest]

ew

[gritty olive]

i will forever smite you with ❤️

[midnight stirrup]

500 is enough at m3?

[summer flower]

okay there is all stat roid will do

[drifting quest]

if someone makes actual gladge variations ill do it

[daring dove]

So I'll get the last ATK% pip tomorrow, do you think it's worth pushing for the last INT pip or too much sanity spent for the upgrade?

[shut cobalt]

is this the final gear set for phys, or could there potentially be a new best set for some of the chars after some more testing if thats on the way?

[jovial grove]

i already artificed tide surge body

[drifting quest]

potentially new but this clears easily so it doesnt matter much if you want to commit

[safe sand]

if I'm being totally honest it's more likely for them to release a new phys character or new equipment set than it is that this will matter in time

[gritty olive]

you dont have dumps for sanity anyways might as well

[safe sand]

like what content would you even remotely have trouble with

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[jovial grove]

how do u know if it clears if there is nothing to clear yet

[drifting quest]

clears trimmed medals

umbral is x10 easier

[daring dove]

Yeah I guess I'll start spending my orbs on upgrading my support weapons since their pips are easier to raise normally & keep my gell to 1 side until I can do the intellect upgrade.

[gritty olive]

i got lucky with a 4->5 and 5->6 yesterday

so you can maybe do that, maybe just try for dumping it all then cashing away on the final upgrade

[ocean hawk]

is pog having damage so small is normal ?

[daring dove]

Gotta start investing in my support weapons more, as stuff like Thermite cutter can be a 4% DMG upgrade team wide if I get 1 more dupe of it & have flow with 3 pips.

[ocean hawk]

my pog currently

im not used to it coz it hits big when using sig

[heady pine]

Yeah fortmaker has int which he don’t scale off of

[ocean hawk]

i mean i knew the aim is for art intensity

its just the first time I saw my pog so bad at dealing basic attack damage

[summer flower]

okay checking if there is difference

last battle before checking

[hushed bison]

but he just kind of a support right?

it doesnt matter if he does more dmg

it more about utilities

[safe sand]

how do det unit/opus/stanza compare to gilb's sig in arts comps

[heady pine]

Pog with his sig could be a decent dps

He’s just way better as a support yeah

[summer flower]

401vs521
114vs148?

[hushed bison]

i have Endmin, Chen and Lifeng as dps

he just need the ultimate recharge to get more ult

imo

[heady pine]

Yeah that’s the standard pog build

[ocean hawk]

my rodhagn felt slower tho, did I mess up

[heady pine]

The pog dps build isn’t rly a thing Anymore

[ocean hawk]

its 2 - 3 s slower

its 4 4 4 correct ?

4 breach, 4 dapan, 4 dapan

[safe sand]

breach crush crush yea?

that's correct

[hushed bison]

I just think it not optimal to build a support as dps

[ocean hawk]

i know, i just want to see where did I messed up

[summer flower]

man i hate that

freaking testing is awful

[safe sand]

I mean that's only if you can classify them purely into one or the other category

where does lifeng fall

[hushed bison]

dps of course

or sub dps

cuz i am all in for Endmin

lol

[summer flower]

ehhhh, arent theythen vunl slave?

[hushed bison]

nah

his ult hit hảd

[ocean hawk]

in phys team I need to control pog right ?

for sp recovery

[safe sand]

I mean he gives link, 2 vuln on ult, phys susceptibility+vuln on battle skill

He needs a 6star weapon to perform well as a DPS

[heady pine]

Usually u control endmin if u use them

[hushed bison]

pog ult -> gather people -> li ult smash it from the sky x2, endmin skill hit aoe, ult hit aoe, chen ST dps KO

[safe sand]

i prefer controlling Chen or endmin, then switching to lifeng for finishers

[ocean hawk]

im not using endmin

its pog, chen, lifeng, dapan

[heady pine]

controlling pog with da pan is fine then

[safe sand]

controlling Chen is also valid

[hushed bison]

My combo with this line up is 2->E->E->1 ->E

[ocean hawk]

my rotation has many down time imo

[hushed bison]

my line up

[safe sand]

da pan's batk string is kinda awk

[ocean hawk]

i think its because da pan is not p5

[summer flower]

i just realised what i was doing wrong in testing

i was using xaihi as dmg source instead of other char

[hushed bison]

btw

do yall know about

these thing

Pog rely so much on his ult

[summer flower]

ehh gimme sec

[hushed bison]

if u use ultimate in a fight

it drops below 50%

he eat 3

and it goes to 50/60% immediately

[manic blade]

There’s a better one I think

[summer flower]

27vs53 crit ffs (higher stat)

[hushed bison]

fr fr?

[manic blade]

Perplexing medicine, recipe from a quest right next to depot node in the greenhouse building

[hushed bison]

thats not the same

its ultimate gain "effiency"

[manic blade]

Oh I see I can’t read apparently

I just bash trash mobs tbh

[summer flower]

waiting for buff to end

[ocean hawk]

i think im gonna migrate to the first set and using sig atm

[summer flower]

wait i can feed def

[hushed bison]

idek if this 25% work

[ocean hawk]

the perplexing ? it works

[summer flower]

still 35 hmm

[ocean hawk]

in phys team, all team member usually ate ginseng or jakubs, and pog use the perplexing buff

for boss speedrunning

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest does r5 thermite beat r5 ardelia sig

in LR

[drifting quest]

probably yes

[midnight stirrup]

when akehuri vs ard

[drifting quest]

ignoring just who is holding it

because ake >>> ard

link and all

[hushed bison]

she is free

for a reason

making our life easier as "newbie"

but once we past that

she done her job of babysitting ú

we must move on

and leave her side

[rapid heron]

Finished AKEF DMG calculation if anybody interested in testing it

[hushed bison]

why?

she is support

why we calculate her dmg out put when Lae is the main dps

[outer ermine]

good one

[summer flower]

118 lower154 171

GUYS

CAP ISNT THAT LOW

154 vs 171

with 15 attribute diff

[rapid heron]

AKE is Arknights:Endfield not Akekuri

XD

[hushed bison]

ake -> akekuri

[midnight stirrup]

true true

was asking for fobm4

[hushed bison]

u missing an F

AK:EF

^

[summer flower]

yea, 151 vs 171

hmm why would it be such visible diff?

[elfin reef]

how much will xaihi need for max amp?

[summer flower]

so close to armor value i assume?

[summer flower]

i'm testing and it seems said cap is incorrectly told by people

20dmg difference

[summer flower]

from 15 attribute

[rapid heron]

30/0.014?

[elfin reef]

0.024 on max per

[rapid heron]

200?

[elfin reef]

r9

[summer flower]

m3 is 0.03

[rapid heron]

🤷

i dont think you need it that high unless it alsso increase the amp cap or base amp

[summer flower]

cap its probably that limit / amp per intelect

[rapid heron]

sitll not touch ice team yet

[elfin reef]

im getting only around 27% amp

[summer flower]

you wont get there in regular way

[elfin reef]

i dont wanna spend much artificing either

[summer flower]

but cap might be for future compatiblity with content

[elfin reef]

imma save crown for dps

[summer flower]

yea

so unless i was told wrong amount much intelect i needed

cap is on just intelect not base

151 vs 171

[elfin reef]

her main is will but needed intelect? bruh

[summer flower]

both with ult, one without food for 15 attributes and other with

[summer flower]

reduced scaling on attack from attribute

pretty cool desing choice imo

[elfin reef]

so like do we even need to build will on xaihie?

[summer flower]

its on int probably so she doesnt slap while being ult AMP powerhouse

[elfin reef]

too late to notice aghhh i crafted the will main gear

[summer flower]

its fine

like it should not matter that much

but if there is like dungeon like content

you might wanna two secondary attribute tools plus secondary attribute chest

[tardy swift]

Frontiers set with thermite cutter or no set ult efficiency with fortmaker for supprt Akekuri on Laevatain team?

[summer flower]

I built her, invested in fluorite, and invested in handcannons just to check it

dunno when i'm gonna have normal use for that

[manic blade]

Thermite cutter ult set unless ur one cycle speed running

[summer flower]

so yea Xaihi can go higher on int

[elfin reef]

im crafting her for yvonne

[summer flower]

and probably you aint reaching cap in current content

[frank wind]

yo whats laevatains full artificed gear setup

i forgot the name of it

[summer flower]

but cap its something that should be there if we ever get rouguelite content or dungeon or somehting

[elfin reef]

do i need this or nah? freeze controll?

[summer flower]

i think i was frozen once in whole time playing

so maybe later?

[amber vapor]

683ms ping wtf

[elfin reef]

tweaky pc

[summer flower]

spikes

[amber vapor]

And yeah there's only one tiny sliver of content with enemies that can freeze you

[summer flower]

if this was video then it would be conering to have that ping all time

[amber vapor]

I don't even remember which enemy does freeze

[elfin reef]

waiting for her sig and i got 10 pulls left lol T_T
i was pulling gilberta sig full pity and got trashh ahh x4 6 star weapon and 5th one gilber sig

so who do i need for her team

xaihie? gilberta?

[tight haven]

xaihi gil ake

[rotund garnet]

engraving ultimate gain efficiency is impossible?

[elfin reef]

what bout ice stacks?

[dry kindle]

No

[tight haven]

you only care to solidify

[rotund garnet]

where can you? I'm on powerplatea and it's not here

[elfin reef]

so like 1 stack is enough?

[tight haven]

you stack non-cryo then cryo to solidify but yes

[elfin reef]

from xaihie?

[tight haven]

yep

[elfin reef]

ohhh

cant i put ardelia on 4th slot

[dry kindle]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

[elfin reef]

[tight haven]

instead of gil? no

[amber vapor]

Or if you have LR you can slot her in instead

[rotund garnet]

OH it changes depending on where you farm. okay I'm an idiot thank you

[amber vapor]

I played Yvonne with LR when I was still early game

[elfin reef]

nah i mean yvonee xaihi gilberta ardelia

[amber vapor]

Was aight

[elfin reef]

[amber vapor]

Does physical susceptibility increase crit dmg?

[manic blade]

Gilb ard clash rlly hard

[elfin reef]

dunno but she buffs arts though too right?

[amber vapor]

Yvonne DMG is heavily dependent on crit chance and dmg %

Solidify is just what is needed to get her combo off

Since you essentially are tryna build your ult as fast as possible

[frank wind]

no

think of it as res shred from genshin

[tardy swift]

Btw how much ult efficiency do I want to artific?

[frank wind]

ur js shredding physical resistence

letting u deal more physical damage

[summer flower]

Xaihi limit seems quite hard to achive if even possible

[manic blade]

Idk the breakpoints tbh

[summer flower]

seems limit for future content

and base isnt part of cap from int

please share that

if anyone asks question

[dry kindle]

That's corrosion

[elfin reef]

i tried to compute it
we need around 450+

[summer flower]

that's wrong

[elfin reef]

for r9

at least

[summer flower]

r8 how much it would be?

[frank wind]

?

[elfin reef]

r9 has 0.024 so much more less

[summer flower]

you mean much more?

[frank wind]

corrosion is for elements

[manic blade]

Take more dmg ≠ res shred

[frank wind]

same shit different pile

[elfin reef]

yea

[summer flower]

man, compute for r8 cause that's what i got, and that's were i got 151vs171 difference

[dry kindle]

Phys is an element

[dry kindle]

Not really

[summer flower]

with 15attribute diff from 507 to 507+15

[dry kindle]

20% suscept x 0.8x resist

[frank wind]

yo i lowk forgot phys was the geo of this game

[amber vapor]

I really only used Ardelia in my Yvonne team just for the combo

And the emergency heals on ult

[summer flower]

F

521

NOOO

I WAS UNDER BOTH CASES OF CAP

F

[dry kindle]

Laugh

[tardy swift]

So hows Gilberta?

[rare zodiac]

No you need stack to get energy

[summer flower]

wait, 507 +15

that over 521

[drifting quest]

overworld? premium qol
average endgame? potential woman
speedrun? mandatory buffer

[summer flower]

okay only one test needed then

[dry kindle]

Umbral?

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest @outer ermine Yall proud?

[drifting quest]

does nothing new from trims in 2/3 maps

[elfin reef]

which one to prio for gilber

[dry kindle]

Surely its actually hard now

[dry kindle]

Ult

[drifting quest]

clueless

[dry kindle]

Also for if they ever add an actual endgame that isnt bosses

[elfin reef]

only ul

t?

cause i dont really wanna spend much if not needed

[summer flower]

i messed up

man

[dry kindle]

Ya

[rare zodiac]

I don’t understand how yvonne functions under pot 1 and less than 31% energy efficiency

[elfin reef]

for buffing only

[wooden knoll]

is aethertech 3pc + swordmancer chest on Endmin actually good? stacking all that arts intensity?

[frank wind]

yes

[wooden knoll]

hell yeah

[rare zodiac]

Her BS CS doesn’t do any meaningful dmg or debuff that scale with lv so outside of ult just leave everything lv1

[frank wind]

basically how it works is when u apply the orgininum crystals on an enemy, when you use ur skill ur ult, the arts intensity scales this damage up, in this case it would be crush I believe

[midnight stirrup]

Damn shuo not proud of me

Sadge

[dry kindle]

12s rhodagn when

[elfin reef]

oki thanks

[midnight stirrup]

Soon

[elfin reef]

cause im ||broke||

[midnight stirrup]

Once my essences and artificing starts

[outer ermine]

now beat my 54s; i need new strats on that boss

[wooden knoll]

yeah my gameplan was to try to hit the biggest possible skill dmg by stacking breach with pog, then quickly restacking vulns for a huge crush

[summer flower]

118vs 154 vs 154?

hmmm

did i forgot to buff or not

[midnight stirrup]

Wait till I get my essence and artificing

Im on base shit rn

with copium essence

[rare zodiac]

So 8 stack of vul? Sound difficult to reach

[summer flower]

wait no

tooltip is bad

15 attribute wasnt diff?

or should it be diff?

[wooden knoll]

it’s not bad with p5 Chen and Lifeng in the team honestly, or it doesn’t seem like it’s that rough

[summer flower]

man, i'm shelfing that untill i get better setup for that

[reef ginkgo]

did you find any detailed information about this

[rare zodiac]

Endfield tool tip is really not helpful, like does Lae EBS in ult deal ba dmg? If not, then why call it BATK SEQ like aa chain?, if yes, then why Sig 120% ba dmg% doesn’t buff these???

[dry kindle]

Wut

[manic blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438785797334503506/1469026229184233679/caption.gif

[rare zodiac]

Or it does buff? Idk, can’t test

[worthy yarrow]

In a phys team (end / chen / lifeng / pog) should I get the free 6s weapon for lifeng or pog?

[lime halo]

Uhh can anyone tell me best gear set for laevatian

[high finch]

They also said this but I dunno it doesnt explain a thing

[ocean hawk]

so they didnt make it clearer but rather re-explaining the "stack"

[high finch]

Yeah

[ocean hawk]

and the damage dealt to enemy with 1st suscept and the 2nd one is same

so uh

[high finch]

I agree if lifeng could stack 51% sus it would be op

[ocean hawk]

well

[high finch]

But the wording,man, it’s weird

[rare zodiac]

Investment?

Lae best gear differ depending on how much invest you put in and who is your preferred teammate

[brazen osprey]

Are there numbers on corrosion? How many stacks before consuming corrosion with Ardelia isn't worth the susceptibility buff.

[lime halo]

My team right now

Still couldn't get her weapon

[ocean hawk]

is that ult charge enough ? (im usit my old artificed xinarite kit from my old pog build)

[dry kindle]

Nuh uh need 250

[ocean hawk]

so I need to enhance the essence on her sig too

aight

but is 250 achievable though ?

[dry kindle]

Its joke

[dry kindle]

Yes

[ocean hawk]

i thought u were serious

[ocean hawk]

[amber vapor]

Krolik my beloved

[rare zodiac]

Increase from 0 to 12/16/20/24% depends on stack over 15s

[dry kindle]

Its not worth holding

[lime halo]

Couldn't pull her third time

[dry kindle]

Ardelia combo corrode is only 7s or whatever

[lime halo]

Hard being f2p

[ocean hawk]

what is this vertical screen layout

like

[dry kindle]

Ipad

[ocean hawk]

is this monitor

[dry kindle]

Probs

[ocean hawk]

ah

[brazen osprey]

thanks

[lime halo]

Its my phone actually

[rare zodiac]

With this investment, hot work gear should be the best

[dry kindle]

Ok fold phone owner

[lime halo]

Nope

[dry kindle]

[ocean hawk]

then what it is

[lime halo]

I just cropped it

[ocean hawk]

that vertical layout is cool

[dry kindle]

Oh fuck you

💀

[ocean hawk]

cursed pip mode

[lime halo]

[ocean hawk]

picture in picture

[rare zodiac]

What is this unholy pip gameplay

[ocean hawk]

definitely a whale

[dry kindle]

What's next p5 laev with double slab

[lime halo]

No2 I just wanted to ask some questions

[ocean hawk]

because, playing in pip on midrange phone is lagging

[lime halo]

Who would play like this

[ocean hawk]

so definitely a whel

[ocean hawk]

uhhhh, you? 😭

[lime halo]

Nahh bro I just wanted to ask some questions without quite the game

[ocean hawk]

jk, yeah i know

[lime halo]

I was playing with this team before I pull leav

[copper ridge]

Does Trust decline over time? I have a character with 108% Trust and I can't see a purpose for overflow other than it gradually dropping.

[rare zodiac]

To unlock lore

That is

Same as the OG arknight

[modest thorn]

Have people done the trim medals with laeva, Ardelia, ake and wulf or does it need antal

[rare zodiac]

You can do trim with less than that

[wise gate]

solo level 1 catcher phase 1 triaggelos beat

183 hours

[modest thorn]

Damn okay I have no idea how cause I feel like I’m doing the combos perfectly and I’m barely missing the time

[rare zodiac]

Maybe investment issues?

[wise gate]

@rose flint

[rapid heron]

i done iit with the said team without antal

[dry kindle]

😭

[lime halo]

This 4?

[outer ermine]

can bro even kill the adds

[wise gate]

literally worlds first for sure no way anybody else has done that

[modest thorn]

Can you dodge the fat guys fire attack

When he puts up the walls

[wise gate]

yeah

you can also block it

[modest thorn]

Block?

[wise gate]

catcher and snowshine

can block

[robust vault]

i wish i could farm infinite resources at a slower pace i just wanna keep playing 😭

[lavish jay]

in the phys team endmin/pog/lifeng/chen, im done building uhh endmin and lifeng, do i build chen first before pog? or the other way round? 🤔

[naive ice]

let me solo her

[wise gate]

just delete your factory bro

[ocean hawk]

AND IT ONLY THE 1ST PHASE

[modest thorn]

Oh lol

[ocean hawk]

NOT KILLING THE BOSS

HOLY 183 HOURS

[wise gate]

2nd phase is probably easier

but my heartrate was 270 and I had to stop

[ocean hawk]

and he said "probably easier"

[wise gate]

I have never been more happy playing a gacha game in my life

[ocean hawk]

what did u use rn dude

[dire wind]

can someone link the gear artificing sheet rq? (good matches)

[wise gate]

yeah?

[robust vault]

while i love the factory, im done with it, and now i just want to play the combat lmao

[ocean hawk]

like

[modest thorn]

Catcher survived but bro died irl 😭

[ocean hawk]

what did u eat

to do 183 hours

[wise gate]

wym

[ocean hawk]

[wise gate]

oh

[ocean hawk]

nvm, im not gonna question a guy who do that

[wise gate]

protein bars and like 20 liters of pepsi

[ocean hawk]

💀

[modest thorn]

I would’ve at least used p5 catcher 💀

[wise gate]

and that's why you're not me

[modest thorn]

I could never be you

[lime halo]

[wise gate]

good god bro

oh

if anybody wants the counter

[rare zodiac]

If fully artifice, hot work exo, hot work gauntlet, hot work pyrometer, lynx slab, if not fully artifice, tide fall light armor, hot work gauntlet, hot work pyrometer x2

[wise gate]

i used 3645 buckpowder

before I beat the boss

[lime halo]

Thank god I've been waiting for you xD

[wise gate]

all of it was manually gathered

no factory

[brittle fable]

Guys is this the set for Akekuri?

[rare zodiac]

Yes, most of the time

[rapid heron]

depend on rotation better use frontier and a seal

[rare zodiac]

In bossing if start from 0 energy, we don’t have the luxury of using Frontier, as she can barely trigger her CS to get enough energy to ult

[wise gate]

Well I literally only died because I couldnt focus and hadn't been able to practice it properly, I only got like 3 rotations off

[tranquil burrow]

historical moment

[drifting quest]

frontier is relegated to speedrunning setups now

[tranquil burrow]

those 15s speedrunning fools could never hope to match up to this

[drifting quest]

seals build just does more

[wise gate]

bro my descent into madness is over

atleast I did the first phase

I might give up now tho

[tranquil burrow]

I'm gonna take solo Catcher for a spin and see how it goes. Just one attempt.

[balmy jay]

[wise gate]

level 1?

[rare zodiac]

I am still malding to make yvonne less an ass character to play

[wise gate]

if you're using actual kit

[dry kindle]

Glhf

[wise gate]

i'd reccomend something that buffs dr and battle skill, and get him a 6 star greatsword

[tranquil burrow]

No I leveled all my ops to 20 for the dijiang passive

but the weapon is lvl 1

[wise gate]

don't do that

level 1 weapon and maxed op is worse than level 1 op and maxed weapon

believe me I did a level 60 weapon and it took an HOUR to do ONE PHASE

[tranquil burrow]

I died

OK unironically a great way to learn boss moveset

[wise gate]

you get 1shot by most things yeah

[tranquil burrow]

There's no visual vomit galore on screen

[wise gate]

do it with maxed out catcher but yeah

holy shit

I had to do volunteer work for 3 hours so I was not warmed up when I did that attempt

ig i'm just goated fr

[autumn sequoia]

How much better is Gilbertas sig vs BP weapon ?

[rare zodiac]

Yvonne need so much energy to ult, sp inefficient, literally a worst LR lmao

[rare zodiac]

A lot am afraid, she is a buffer, and her BP doesn’t buff shit

[lavish jay]

this, im guessing i max out chen first before pog yeah? 🤔

[autumn sequoia]

Womp, not pulling for Yvonne so I guess my BP crates are wasted

[tranquil burrow]

by a fair bit due to a multitude of reasons, just use Stanza instead which depending on how your team rotation goes and how she's built might even be better than sig (cope but not really)

I do think it rivals her sig though

but I can't fully ascertain it since I'm not familiar with how an optimized route with her will look like.

Gilb's buff on her sig is just straight ass 🤷‍♂️

[dry kindle]

Sig or stanza its simple

Opus isn't real

[drifting quest]

im glad this online resource I used that told me I had more than enough materials was correct

[copper ridge]

"When fighting in the battlefield," what does this condition mean? when are we fighting in a non-battlefield?

[timber harness]

People are pulling for gilberta?

[tranquil burrow]

Cute fox girl

[dry kindle]

Did you forget to check leveling costs or some shit

[drifting quest]

no i did

i just only used one site

for both my personal sheeting

and their own

[dry kindle]

Skill issued ig

[drifting quest]

real

[tranquil burrow]

you sure had a lot of resources

im spent after just building gilberta

[manic blade]

I got her on my free 10 pull from laev…

[drifting quest]

im tempted to swipe for mats

lmao

[tranquil burrow]

this will 100% be me on yvonne's banner

[manic blade]

Open the flood gates

[drifting quest]

!!

[manic blade]

Fr tho patience… you’ll get em for free in time :3

[drifting quest]

its less materials than i thought

20 crates though is crazy

[wise gate]

bro who would swipe for this

worst dogshit package ever

[tranquil burrow]

the camera event seems to give a lot of resources

[drifting quest]

i thought it gave more

but 20 crates is also really good

[sly nymph]

why dont u just pull a banner

[tranquil burrow]

just day 2 rewards were worth like ~240-320 sanity

[sly nymph]

and use that to buy mats

[manic blade]

Mb

[drifting quest]

that was also on my mind lmfao

[dry kindle]

Me staring at the paid bp be like

[manic blade]

Paid bp is CRAZY value tho

[dry kindle]

💀

[drifting quest]

we ball on level 1 skills i guess

[dry kindle]

Yeah but fuck all pulls feels kinda ass

[tight haven]

yeah its kinda dog

[drifting quest]

forget the fact i need to like 9/9 all 4 skills on all 4 units

[tight haven]

ngl

[wise gate]

the bp sure but bro like FUCK swiping for anything but bp or pulls

[drifting quest]

minus a few

[pearl bay]

yo is it just me or uh..

This seems kind of powerful??

[manic blade]

Fair

[dry kindle]

Meme

[pearl bay]

+82% hp seems

sort of excessive

[dry kindle]

Unless we get a fuckin max hp scaled dps

[manic blade]

Yes run this and ember and catcher

[pearl bay]

Yeah but like

[wise gate]

what

[pearl bay]

jesus

that' slike

double your hp

basically

[tranquil burrow]

it ain't tho. only slightly better than typical bp. so in other gacha the difference between free vs paid is 1:3 typically, here it's the same if you combine first two tiers vs paid. my point being the middle tier is literally free tier worth of stuff and just makes paid look better than it actually is, esp when comparing with paid tier.

[wise gate]

"run this with catcher"
item that buffs people with hp treatment

[pearl bay]

Wait if i put this on ember

can i like

[wise gate]

THATS A SNOWSHINE ITEM

[rare zodiac]

But hp doesn’t do dmg :3

[pearl bay]

sit and tank the marble agglomerai nuke

[manic blade]

I’m too adhd rn I can’t read allat

[wise gate]

catcher can hit 90% dr and have a shield at the same time he could prolly tank a nuke by himself

[pearl bay]

oh jeez

[tranquil burrow]

paid bp is typical gacha bp is my point. it's a bit different though with weapons and difference in kinds of pulls awarded.

[wise gate]

I mean he can block rhodagn nuke

[rare zodiac]

Offense is the best defense

[wise gate]

at level 1

[dry kindle]

Tbh might as well assume free bp is infinite value for now

Until they add an actual use for originium that isnt fucking 1 for 25 arsenal tickets

[sly nymph]

has less pulls

[tranquil burrow]

but more weapon pulls, a fair bit more. so depends on what you value i guess.

[dry kindle]

Also

[tranquil burrow]

What really annoys me is seeing "double bonus" in the top up screen, mfs really be just lying straight to our face. I notice a few games are smart not to call it double at least.

Limbus just calls it "bonus", at least that's honest.

[dull oriole]

anyone got umbral torch vs forgeborne and navigator vs artzy calcs

[tranquil burrow]

pinned in #team-build but there's several floating around that differ by a few %

[signal thistle]

so what is actually laevatain's best endgame gear set? is full er set actually the best one?

[rare zodiac]

If you have her sig yeh

But that only count going in with 0 energy and need 2-3 cycles to end whatever you are fighting, if you can pre funnel energy and can 1 cycle it, Hot work is still better

[hallow lion]

For those who have played arknights what odds do we have that ardashir could be playable

[neat snow]

I easily trimmed with hot work but I guess ulting a second time when they have 5% hp is cool

[dry kindle]

50 50

[signal thistle]

So ER set is overrated? 🤔

[tranquil burrow]

interesting conclusion

[dry kindle]

The only overrated build is fuckin slabs

[tranquil burrow]

what about double slabs

[hallow lion]

So it has happened but don’t count on it alri ty

[dull oriole]

tyty

[dry kindle]

He's not dead so

[outer ermine]

yet

[pearl bay]

Either soon.

or 5 years.

Or 10

nothing inbetween

[dry kindle]

We'll find out if he ever shows in comms

[gritty olive]

these are mine for extra crosschecking

[rare zodiac]

Personally i like ER set, hope that they will make more gear so we can have an 200% efficiency dps set and not scuff combinations

[gritty olive]

theres a lot of cool looking NPCs that werent playable

[dry kindle]

[hallow lion]

Coping time

[peak void]

Its great for overworld and prolonged fights

[autumn glen]

hey so is the bp weapon better on gilberta or the atk% teamwide one

[signal thistle]

do you know what the endgame will be like? are we starting there with 0 ult or 100%? and is it timebased?

[tranquil burrow]

stanza

[hallow lion]

Did arknights also release a lot more females than males?

[gritty olive]

release her please

[gritty olive]

yes but males are pfine

[autumn glen]

oki cool

[dry kindle]

Its like 1:2 or something

[gritty olive]

the last two limiteds in arknights are both mals

[tranquil burrow]

single team mode, start with 0 ult, 10 minute timer with some gimmicks added

[dry kindle]

Someone go count

[gritty olive]

should be 1:3

collab ops inclusive

[dry kindle]

Its also not endgame really

[signal thistle]

hmmm, i might lean on ER set if thats the case 🤔

[dry kindle]

Unless they buff the shit out of it

[rare zodiac]

The only thing can be considered endgame now is umbra, and in cbt, we start with 0 ult

[tranquil burrow]

i'd rather it be too easy than too hard

[rare zodiac]

Just make 10mil hp boss

Make the fight 5 min minimum

[gritty olive]

bro is making anomaly arbitration

[signal thistle]

how many teams do you need on new endgame tho

[gritty olive]

[dry kindle]

Rhodagn is 2.2m hp

So

Eh

[gritty olive]

one

[dry kindle]

Just hit better

[signal thistle]

oh thank god, im just focusing on my laevatain team

[tranquil burrow]

same, we're so cooked the day they add a 2nd team requirement

inb4 surprise 2nd team this umbral too

[neat snow]

Surely we'll have mats by then

[rare zodiac]

Surely

[tranquil burrow]

im broke just from building gilberta and im not even done

the camera event gives me some hope though

it had a hefty amount of progression materials as rewards

[outer ermine]

crowns

get to m3 2 skills

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[outer ermine]

no u

[rare zodiac]

Already prepared for that, not built but well learning and theorycrafting to maximize

[dry kindle]

[tranquil burrow]

gilb for better or worse only needs m1 on her ult

[outer ermine]

[dull oriole]

general consensus 75-80 ish ig?

[tranquil burrow]

id lean 80ish, who knows maybe higher

vibescrafting >

[dry kindle]

80 what

[tranquil burrow]

80% of the efficacy of her sig

[dry kindle]

75 for laev

80 something for yvonne

[rare zodiac]

But with out sig Lae ER build is actually utterly dogwater

[hallow lion]

Okay not too bad

[dry kindle]

If you don't have lae sig you just hate yourself anyway

[tranquil burrow]

do you have it

[zinc maple]

is there any video with lae charge set to get trim medal? All I saw was just laevatain using 3 hotwork + tidefall in yt showcasing for trimmed medals

saw some calc where they said that lae charge set have more dps

but i haven't see any showcase so far

[dry kindle]

Yes

[rare zodiac]

Lae super charge is best after p4 so doubt that people will make vid about this, the ew whale reaction is kinda annoying

Besides, trim vid often prefunnel energy and just demolish the boss in matter of seconds so hot work will be better

[dry kindle]

We still have people running p5 slab 🗿

[rare zodiac]

As hot work set have high dps in ult but less ult up time, but you can ignore that if prefunnel and it end with just 1 ult

Slab at max artifice do have better stat

It doesn’t feel right but stat doesn’t lie

[broken shale]

What would be better, leveling a weapon to 90 or getting better essences?

[dry kindle]

Except p5 redeemer exists

[broken shale]

Trying to do this shit but I lack a bit of damage

Physical team lvl 80

[tranquil burrow]

leveling a weapon gives base stats that get multiplied by all other modifiers so probably that?

assuming your essences are missing only a level or two on a couple of stats

[broken shale]

They're missing a lot

Really terrible essences

[rare zodiac]

But if you go for dps ( dmg per screenshot) then Slab is good

[dry kindle]

It actually isnt

Tide with double pyrometer is better damage per screenshot on skill

[autumn glen]

does anyone have an infographic on avywennas best build

[dry kindle]

Essence farm

Now

[broken shale]

i almost have no sanity

ggs

[rare zodiac]

Back to the farm

[outer ermine]

holy purple

[broken shale]

ig the good part is i got a good time with dogshit essences

[neat snow]

💀

[sand otter]

Etching ATK and Lvl 90 weapon

[broken shale]

brother i have nothing to etch

[drifting quest]

casual 1078 protoprism, 455 protohedron

surely its not some several thousand sanity to farm

[sand otter]

We look to da future 😉

[drifting quest]

annoying there isnt any online source for drop rates

[flat ledge]

is it better to artifice charge rate set or 3 hotwork + tidefall for laevatain, is there a big difference

[outer ermine]

just realized i do meet the node req for 11s rhod run

fuck it tho

[terse bramble]

has anyone looked into or has any numbers on optimizing stock trading?

[dry kindle]

Just look yourself

[drifting quest]

i am

[dry kindle]

Buy under 1k sell over 5k

The end

[drifting quest]

so far im at 5240 sanity to do it

!!!

[terse bramble]

any data that backs those numbers up?

[dry kindle]

If nothing cheap then don't buy unless you overcap tomorrow

[dry kindle]

Common sense?

[terse bramble]

yeah thats why im asking about optimizing it

[drifting quest]

its 6 min drops per run for crisis drlls right

[dry kindle]

Probably

[dry kindle]

There's nothing to optimize

[midnight stirrup]

[rare zodiac]

Depends on investment

[drifting quest]

1 whole month or irl sanity to go i guess

[flat ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

thanks i wouldn't have known otherwise

[broken shale]

what do u even need all of this for?

[drifting quest]

physical

[terse bramble]

there will be an optimal threshold for when to buy/wait given the price distribution that doesnt necessarily have to be those rounded numbers, and that is if the distribution is even the same for every item/across every day

[drifting quest]

smile

[broken shale]

what?

[twilit quail]

Im redoing phys part of sheet

[neat snow]

Optimize your factory and the stock trading becomes meaningless

[twilit quail]

again

so

[outer ermine]

[twilit quail]

dont upgrade anything yet

[midnight stirrup]

How do you upgrade stock retri in wuling. Im trynna get the shit to artifice

[drifting quest]

i cant even afford to level them im not worried about artificing

lmfao

[twilit quail]

we've had a lot of major optimisations

past 48 hrs

[drifting quest]

triple swordmancer + intensity pog for minimal investment

[twilit quail]

endmin 4/3/4 is the way to go now

xiranite lifeng would be minimal

[dry mason]

[twilit quail]

I figured I might as well explain some working principles

[dry mason]

why my Ice team so weak

[twilit quail]

so the revamped doc is going to be a lot longer

and more info dense

cause it is kind of necessary

[dry kindle]

There isnt

And you explode because of cap if you try to anyway

[drifting quest]

yeah trying to do anything with phys without like a ton of documentation is

something

[twilit quail]

I need to explain like

what orders things apply in

what resource is gained on which hits of some abilities

how the endmin weapon works(really fucking annoying)

and we have a bunch of charge rate thresholds that are different for every comp

[neat snow]

Me pressing 1

[terse bramble]

yes, the point of an optimal threshold is to minimize the risk of waiting to be at the cap on a bad day while maximizing the profits from buying low

[lime bear]

how fast can I make this disappear

[dry kindle]

Just don't cap on monday

[terse bramble]

if u dont care about it thats fine, just wondering if there was anyone that did

[twilit quail]

endmin opti is just really fucking annoying

[dry kindle]

That's about it

[terse bramble]

why monday

[twilit quail]

oh and also I need to explain fucking

hitstop

god

[dry kindle]

Monday consistently shit to buy afaik

[lime bear]

anyone know why I don't have bonus bills on Infrastation? I already used Chen and there should 20% chance, I also cleared auto defense

Valley Pass and Power Plateau works normal

this is weird af

[terse bramble]

is that just from ur own experience or is there any info about it somewhere? i heard about it but i havent actually seen any numbers

[tranquil burrow]

Chen gives +20% prosperity iirc

Check her bonus again

[lime bear]

and 20% bills too

I also cleared the auto defense

[dry kindle]

Its 10/10

Shits just bugged

[tranquil burrow]

Nope, just checked

It's prosperity and chance for outpost to earn more

the one that gives extra bills is the trade one

[lime bear]

doesn't explain why my auto defense 20% doesn't work tho

[tranquil burrow]

Swap to Xaihi on infra when trading

[neat snow]

It's when the outpost gains bills

[tranquil burrow]

this is its income over time, not trade

[dry kindle]

Wait what's the ews doing then

[lime bear]

so basically more reserves?

[autumn glen]

oki so i’m playing avywenna electric w/ gilberta and i feel like my avywenna is at a good place now, do i build perlica arclight or gilberta next past the 60+ threshold

[tranquil burrow]

yeah, just 20% additional bills over time. so like instead of 100k over 10 hours it'll be 120k over 10 hours

[terse bramble]

there are 3 types of buffs, one that increases bills, trading and exp, bills is just income that stacks with the tower def thing, trade is the bonus that shows up and exp is just exp when lvling the outpost

[rare zodiac]

Hah i mean what is your Lae pot? Wep pot? That change what her best gear is

[dry kindle]

Ews is same buff

Bruh

[lime bear]

so is it better trade 20% or income 20%

[dry kindle]

Just swap

Its that simple

[tranquil burrow]

income 20% but swap when trading

[neat snow]

Use a limited operator and get both

[tranquil burrow]

laevatain & gilberta are BiS for 1st and 3rd as they trigger all bonuses

yvonne probably for 2nd but i dont have her

[neat snow]

She is

[dry kindle]

Yvonne isn't real

Just chen and xaihi swap

🗣️

[tranquil burrow]

prosperity is worthless anyways

and swapping easily solves it

[neat snow]

They made the outposts pay to win

[tranquil burrow]

thankfully wuling has wulf to trigger both important buffs

[lime bear]

true peak Wulf

[lime bear]

same as Power Plateau one ig, use Perlicka for afk then swap Pog for trade

[drifting quest]

i will pull for materials

the clueless player says

[tranquil burrow]

It is vastly more cost efficient to refresh

[drifting quest]

this seems verifiably false

between arsenal tokens, potentials and then the actual stuff I want to buy material wise

[tranquil burrow]

6 orig = 0.9 pulls = 2 runs of a stage compared to the dogwater AIC quota income

[flat ledge]

no pots at all

[rare zodiac]

So you do have sig tho?

[flat ledge]

yeah