theorycrafting

[midnight stirrup]

Got two of her sigs back to back

Today was meant for me

[manic blade]

bruh 😭

[midnight stirrup]

Anyway, thanks for the congratulations

I mostly wanted P5 for the profile art

[midnight stirrup]

L O L

[daring dove]

That's great, I got Embers for my first two pulls today but still wasn't unlucky consider those where in 40 pulls.

[midnight stirrup]

Shit, atleast its weapon currency

Closer to P5 Ember too

[daring dove]

Am Ember is P4 now

[willow blade]

just double checking for leavi artificing i should get ult charge% and heat% first right? before intellect

[stoic ginkgo]

is p5 perlica usable in any team comp atm?

[dry mason]

My friend's Ember is P8 smth

[timber harness]

Istg If this game gives me one more snowshine dupe of this worthless ass character im gonna start acting like other TC channel members and start talking to other people like theyre idiots for running off meta.

Not even for any particular reason just out of spite my chen is still p0

[leaden tartan]

Avyweena

[drifting quest]

is there a planner site or anything yet to quick calc costs

[frigid vector]

as in, cost to upgrade a unit?

endfield tools has it

[manic blade]

copies of a p5 give you half of a weapon...

[daring dove]

I mean the weapon currency this early isn't so bad.

Can use it for Thermite Cutter or a characters sig.

[kindred sorrel]

Are any gilb pots good

[tranquil burrow]

Funny way of complaining about this channel

[steep mortar]

What set to run on akikuri ardelia and Wolfgang in lavatein team ?

[lusty kernel]

pog build for breach

[timber harness]

Mans got an ember account

[daring dove]

P1/P2, rest are kind of mid.

[kindred sorrel]

Guess I’ll stop since I’m at p2 then

[midnight stirrup]

Last Rite EATS with Gilb on essences oh my god

[stoic ginkgo]

larger radius grouping is qol

[manic blade]

and then laev wulf ard gilb is gonna be too sp hungry

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest drop uid

[daring dove]

Naw my potentials are spread out, still haven't had any dupes though.

[timber harness]

Oh im not complaining i love talking here to get info. This channel is like any other theory craft community. Im just jokingly talking shit for the love of the game and im bored

[leaden tartan]

I don't think anyone actually saw this question when I asked so...

Thoughts on using Alesh in Yvonne Nature team? Rotation would look something like.

Flourite Combo Skill, Ultimate
Yvonne Battle Skill, Final Attack, Ultimate
Gilberta Combo Skill (Shatters Solidification)
Alesh Combo Skill, Ultimate, Battle Skill (Reapplies Solidification and adds Cryo vulnerability from weapon)
Yvonne Unload```
This is in comparison to Akekuri in that slot.

[timber harness]

Me and shuo are best friends we go way back 4 days ago

[timber harness]

Holy whale. Can i live with you per chance

Sounds like a comfortable life

[daring dove]

Anyway time to get P5 Gilberta even though she's mid I guess... No sense stopping at P4.

[dry mason]

It's not

[midnight stirrup]

He's rich rich

You can tell from his tone around P5 Gilb

[modest thorn]

are u f2p striker?

[dry mason]

Gilb doesnt use BS

[manic blade]

it works? what would rot be

[midnight stirrup]

Obv not

Use ur brain

[dry mason]

Check my new vid

[modest thorn]

nah def f2p

[dry mason]

[manic blade]

bet bro i gotchu

[daring dove]

Yep I'm F2P

[pale falcon]

........

[manic blade]

and then if we run eternal xiranite on gilb should I just go quad arts intensity on ard

[modest thorn]

nice, you should consider buying some packs so you can p3 your endmin

[midnight stirrup]

Bro I dont have engraving permits, why tf these shits so expensive

[manic blade]

forced 2 pay

[zinc maple]

whale

[dry mason]

Lae Ult -> Wolf Ult -> Lae CS -> Ake BS -> Wolf CS -> Lae N5 4 stacks

[dry mason]

Nah dont use Ard

Vul stack will disable Ard's CS

[manic blade]

oh.

fawkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

p2 ard for what

[dry mason]

She's still stronger in bossing

Dmg taken debuff from her weapon too strong

[modest thorn]

why are quillbeasts so tanky wtf

[dry mason]

[next helm]

Lae in ult has no n5

[manic blade]

what if yk you combo skill before gilb

does vuln ever go away

[south berry]

how much atk does yvonne want

[dry mason]

No, you can't remove Vul by applying elementals infliction

Only Crush or Breach

[manic blade]

sobbbb

[dry mason]

It will stay there and grief your next Adr CS timing

[manic blade]

i mean I think gilb is just better

p2p2 gilb or p2p1 ard

[dry mason]

Well not for me I guess

[lime bear]

haha pp

[dry mason]

DMG is lower compare to Adr

[manic blade]

gilb p2 also has zero stat explanation...

[modest thorn]

which recrisis is the hardest to engrave?

[ember salmon]

How to select the best gears?

[south berry]

for who

i think yvonne only have 1 gear

[ember salmon]

Every one, do I need to boost their main attributes or do I need to do something else?

[torn raft]

read her ult varies on ult lvl

[south berry]

well for purple and under gear you can just match their attributes

[fading fog]

How does Yvonne interact with Link when ulting?

[south berry]

but for gold it becomes more tricky

[torn raft]

-1 link

it's wasted lol

[fading fog]

ye that's what I thought as well, unfortunate

[ember salmon]

I have every gold equipment available, I'm just confused about what's the best

[south berry]

what's your main team atm

[ember salmon]

Physical team

[rare zodiac]

And the team have? We need to know who you use to even think of a plan bruh

[vestal turtle]

just follow the pinned doc if you don't know what to do

[high finch]

can they send me another 500 stam pls?

[south berry]

swordmancer is the brainded gear, if you're minmaxxer yinglung or bonecrusher, or slap ult gain on pog

[robust vault]

last rites weapon is worth spending weapon currency on right?

[vestal turtle]

you need her weapon if you wanna play her

[robust vault]

thats what i heard but was just confirming tbh

do you mind explaining why

[rare zodiac]

Mainly because the alternative is ass

[vestal turtle]

because it works perfectly with her, and nothing else comes close

[robust vault]

damn rip

[hybrid quest]

LR has lots of ST damage so seeker is still fine even if its -20% from her sig

[robust vault]

im kinda indecisive bc LR is the third team im building lol

[hybrid quest]

but if you really want to commit then you shouldnt stick to seeker forever

[rare zodiac]

Do we really need that much?

[hybrid quest]

just have to find the right time to pull for her weapon when you dont have to pull for anyone elses

[robust vault]

i mean the next time im pulling is prob just next patch buuut

if zhuang and mi fu are both coming, ill want both

[torn raft]

ayo I hit the 2.7% after 54 tries

[rare zodiac]

I have plan for team 2 but have not even build them yet

[bronze plume]

well no but what else you finna do after youve built yo 1st team

[robust vault]

I just got gilbertas weapon but I have enough currency to guarantee another 6* so

[hybrid quest]

i would have told you to skip gilbertas weapon and pulled LR's weapon instead

[rare zodiac]

Theorycrafting to find the peak of my favorite char?

[bronze plume]

the peak is murdering Mr. Punching bag in under 20 seconds

[vestal turtle]

save resources

[bronze plume]

yeah for

[rare zodiac]

Well i still hope for tougher punching bag

[bronze plume]

a second team much wow

[vestal turtle]

maybe future content will require specific teams

[robust vault]

I can get both

[vestal turtle]

like every gacha

[south berry]

i spent 100 pulls on gilbert sig for guarantee Chivalric for my xaihi

[zinc maple]

is lynx slab build good for levi?

[bronze plume]

either you save resouces for a 2nd team or you use resources for a second team after the 1st

either way

[robust vault]

or like i can guarantee LR weapon rn anyway

[bronze plume]

youre going to make a second team

[robust vault]

and have some extra

[hybrid quest]

i mean, id say just hold on till you know what banners come in 1.1

[robust vault]

fair

im having fun with electric for now anyway, maybe i should likee properly finish my first 2 teams while i wait LOL

[hybrid quest]

its your third team and you dont lose out because you waited a bit

[robust vault]

luckily i got gilberta essence fast

[rare zodiac]

Until i p5p5 my Lae second team can wait

[hybrid quest]

i hope you have realer problems like me deciding between JET and detonation unit from the freebie box 😭

[outer ermine]

wtf is p5p5

[daring dove]

There we go then can all show off their P5 glam now.

[bronze plume]

the only one i actually notice is ardelia

if you think thats cuz i look at ardelias behind or neglect the others is up to you to think

[fresh lynx]

how big is the gap between p1 JET and p5 cohesive traction on Avywenna?

[robust vault]

i picked JET pretty fast just bc in practice buffs are better than debuffs rn unless they transfer 😭

kill things too fast

[hybrid quest]

like the real smart thng to do is wait until either one goes on the store so that i can get the other

but i think the electric team is gonna get powercrept before that happens

[robust vault]

i hope its perlica that gets replaced cause avywenna is just cool

[thorn shore]

big news

the hype was real

high invest elec feels really good to play

[robust vault]

im playing low invest elec and it feels better than phys just bc of gilberta

[thorn shore]

well by high invest

i meant just gilberta

[robust vault]

oh

LMAO

[thorn shore]

lots of times elec ppl just play it cus its all 4-5 stars

[bronze plume]

yeah its defo fun to play elec

[thorn shore]

which is nice

[robust vault]

like why is this better than my lvl 80/70 phys team 💀

[bronze plume]

i have more fun wit electric but i love ardelia and laev so

[thorn shore]

lvl 40 arclight you disgust me

[rugged kiln]

I hope we don’t inherit the hsr slang of ‘2 cost clears’

[robust vault]

no xp mats

[thorn shore]

knowing zhuang is coming in the future im super invested into arclight

[robust vault]

im in hell

[thorn shore]

bc arclights kit is godlike

m3'd her bskill

[bronze plume]

im just hoping that the first 6 star elec we get is best replacing perlica

granted if its arclight thats also fine

[robust vault]

im kinda hoping arclight just cause i dont like seeing physical numbers in my elec team

but perlica fine too

[bronze plume]

i just

dont like perlica

[robust vault]

her design is kinda mid, i like her character tho, shes sus asf

[thorn shore]

perlica is so annoying in the current comp

bc i have to avoid using her combo

[lime bear]

but she sent u 30K

[robust vault]

wait why cant you use her combo

[hybrid quest]

replace perlica with ol reliable akekuri

[robust vault]

😭

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-priestess-arknights-gif-15645721933205931498

[lime bear]

https://tenor.com/view/prts-priestess-prts-arknights-priestess-arknights-prts-dance-gif-17748366548483543888

wife

[robust vault]

uh oh ive finally run out of weapon xp

i havent farmed it once

[manic blade]

who do I need to artifice ult gain for first between gilb ake and wulf

which has breakpoints behind artifices?

[rare zodiac]

Wulf ake gib lae?

[thorn shore]

her electrification is stronger than arclight ult electrification, so im combining with gil for first elec, avy combo, consume, arc ult, avy combo, consume, perlica combo, burst

[manic blade]

ye my laev is max artifice

[hidden lantern]

How's Gilberta doing?

[robust vault]

oh right about artificing.. to get the "good match," does it have to be the same type of gear? for example, gloves for gloves?

[hidden lantern]

Yes you can't cross slot artifice

[robust vault]

ok so a good match for gilberta gloves isnt possible?

[thorn shore]

also this

[manic blade]

looks like slight downgrade to ardelia, but very helpful in exploration and my guess is she'll be rlly good in umbral monument when it drops

[robust vault]

for ult efficiency

[manic blade]

but she's fun ngl

[thorn shore]

honestly gil weapon gives so much ult eff i dont even run ult gloves

[robust vault]

fair lol

i was thinking ab that too

[next helm]

Can run body arts intensity

And maybe gloves

Depends on team

[thorn shore]

this is the best set i could come up with for squeezing like 2% dmg out of her but with 7/9 on her wep ult gain

im at over 100% ult gain

like 113% including her passive

her ult has 600% dmg mult

so its useful to an extent

[rare zodiac]

As long as you can ult the same time with your team burst window then it’s cool

[thorn shore]

ye she has her ult every rotation shes chillin

so i threw that on her

[next helm]

Every 19 seconds?

[rare zodiac]

Like in my Lae team i prefer Ardrelia because Lae dmg is more focus on consistency than burst with my playstyle

[thorn shore]

do u burst every 19 sec?? i wait till 2 avy combos then burst

unless its mobs then i just freestyle accordingly

[thorn shore]

honestly in laev team gil is dead slot mostly

for anything single target

ive been convinced shes fine, even good maybe if theres at least 2 enemies

[drifting quest]

the gilb graph

[next helm]

1.0

[daring dove]

Does Gilberta's weapon work against bosses since she technically can't lift then?

[drifting quest]

does it not still apply lifted

[reef vault]

guy in that 2nd slot in the kit, should I run ult gain efficiency or main attribute boost? it’s for leavatain comb & running 3p hot work

[hidden lantern]

It works and applies, the boss just won't actually be floated

Vuln stack still appears, basically

[rare zodiac]

It still applies, just that boss ignores it like other cc base skill/reaction

In umbra you start with 0 energy right?

[drifting quest]

you did in cbt

[daring dove]

Ok thanks all, next question how much of a buff is Art DMG dealt? Is it as impactful as something like Thermite cutter for instance where 28% more ATK & 28% more Art DMG would result in the same damage uplift for an art attack?

Because I see big numbers for Arts damage on Gilberta's weapon.

[drifting quest]

atk should be generally more valuable, hence stanza supremacy, but arts damage taken is pretty good too

[rare zodiac]

Atk always better than dmg%

[tranquil burrow]

It's additive with %dmg. The truly cracked debuff is increased dmg taken which is a separate multiplier.

Like on Clannibal. Yes I have Clannibal agenda to sell.

[drifting quest]

wasted agenda

mid ass weapon for now

[torn raft]

does wulf hit the ult breakpoint he wants with gilberta passive?

[tranquil burrow]

dmg taken is different than dmg dealt. The former is a separate multiplier, the latter is additive with other sources of %dmg.

[torn raft]

or needs a bit more artificing?

[drifting quest]

i must have misread

gg

[hidden lantern]

Nice, Ardelia triggers Gilberta combo. I can bring them both Why, idk, but I can!

[tranquil burrow]

Gilb weapon has %dmg dealt which is the "mid" buff

[rare zodiac]

Clan is good, only problem is that Lae is a machine that constantly consumes sp so no sp for wulf

[tranquil burrow]

Hear me out

Gilberta doesn't take SP in Laev team

and Rossi will solve all SP issues

So ultimate meta team will be

Laev Wulf (Clann) Rossi Gilb

Heard it here first

[rare zodiac]

In what context? How much BS? CS?

[thorn shore]

https://tenor.com/view/pie-cake-explosion-boom-explode-gif-596449426258439727

[tranquil burrow]

Ardelia sig has the %dmg taken debuff which is the strong multiplier

Another common Ardelia W

[rare zodiac]

Then gib ult give nature infliction and you wasted a stack for Lae = -100 sp

Gib is nice for dps(dmg per screenshot) but to rotate with her is a nightmare for Lae

[torn raft]

sorry what does acronym bs, cs mean I just hear about wulf wanting to artifice / run the ult efficiency weapon

[tranquil burrow]

battle skill, combo skill

[hidden lantern]

This is actually not bad. I'm using Chen, Pog, Gilberta, Ardelia. Just messing around in overworld. I was able to AoE 4 enemies to death, nobody was over level 60, and Gilberta is still level 40

[torn raft]

9/6 atm cause im dumb

[drifting quest]

overworld is overworld

[rare zodiac]

Mean how much battle skill and combo skill before wulf ult is needed

[drifting quest]

nothing matters

[next helm]

aoe character is bad in boss game

[hidden lantern]

I like that the gravity stuff locks down and gathers them when they're already close together

[drifting quest]

less so since they nerfed it

[next helm]

1.0 btw

[hidden lantern]

Yea the nerf saddens me

[tranquil burrow]

do we know how level scaling works? Going from 70 to 60 was a DRAMATIC difference in my experience

I feel like enemy hps are 1/3rd previous hps

[drifting quest]

hp scales quite dramatically with level, afaik

[tranquil burrow]

or at least feels like it

[daring dove]

I need to get more potentials on Ardelia's weapon I'm slacking an it's a lot better once you get her P5.

[next helm]

No offense

are you just here to show money

[rare zodiac]

But do you use her battle skill?

[tranquil burrow]

I do, her debuff lasts a rather long time so it's worth it imo

[rare zodiac]

Using Arde battle skill is a luxury that not many can

[rare zodiac]

Who?

[torn raft]

not sure? thought i just wanted as much ult eff as possible to reset combo, just equipped charge set on him

[rare zodiac]

I mean that image is p1 wep lul

[hidden lantern]

Switched to Lae, Akekuri, Gilberta, Ardelia.

The lockdown gravity is so nice, I'm casually AoEing without worrying about enemies separating They were right when they said overworld QoL

[drifting quest]

depends on pots and rot as to wulfs breakpoints

[torn raft]

probably has shown other images or something

he's at p5

[rare zodiac]

Yeah it very depends on rot and what do you seek to do with wulf

[drifting quest]

2c 3s is ~83/77 energy with fully artificed seals build

[amber vapor]

2 ten pulls on Gilb (one was the carry over and the other was tickets) and I now have a maxed wulf and Chen but still no arclight

[drifting quest]

sadly getting rid of body puts it at ~76/77

but it means you can skimp on a tap or two

[daring dove]

I mean you'd have to be silly not do I guess, it's it's 28% more susceptibility. An if you don't use her battle skill her sig is pretty worthless no?

[drifting quest]

like 0.03 energy off

[hidden lantern]

I'm still missing Last Rite

[drifting quest]

learning in real time why stanza ard is the go to

[amber vapor]

Take my p1 Yvonne please

[hidden lantern]

Oh wait... I still have the selector

Still missing Lifeng too

Now I remembered why I didn't use it yet

[rare zodiac]

I have a pretty interesting yvonne combo, gonna be my second team in the future

[daring dove]

I'd likely use this on her instead of Stanza to be honest. Depends how often I'm using her ult.

[tranquil burrow]

I have no calcs to back me up but going by feelscraft alone %dmg taken is miles better than %atk unless the %atk buff is truly large

[daring dove]

Stanza is so goated for lower investment though.

[drifting quest]

spoiler this does not proc on ardelia

ardelia does not heal with a skill

[rugged kiln]

Noob trap on ardelia (I know because i fell for it too)

[manic blade]

nom nom nom

[tranquil burrow]

how did you get so many fillets

[rare zodiac]

But Arde heal on talent

[daring dove]

Doesn't her skill create healing sheep or does that not count?

[manic blade]

dog annihlation routes

[drifting quest]

the sheep are the ones that heal

[rugged kiln]

Wolf genocide

[rare zodiac]

It’s talent

[drifting quest]

not the skill

[tranquil burrow]

you killed innocent dogs/wolves

[rugged kiln]

No, i even tested and showed shuo

[tranquil burrow]

the ones that don't fight back

[lime bear]

.stop2

[tranquil burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[lime bear]

someone added this command so peak

[hidden lantern]

All those dead bodies floating in the air then plopping down simultaneously

[manic blade]

they're tasty

[torn raft]

all right, thanks

[daring dove]

Ah, I get it's a Perlica weapon then, or who can even use it.

[rugged kiln]

We need lappdumb on this server too

[tranquil burrow]

[glacial plover]

if i get Gilberta i switch Akikuri for her on Laevatain team right?

[manic blade]

ard

[minor grotto]

how long does lifted status last for

[glacial plover]

ard?

[manic blade]

and it's a downgrade in single target

ardelia

[civic current]

is this right priority skill ups?

[rugged kiln]

If umbral needs 2 teams then gilberta will be worth

[glacial plover]

whose gonna be my sustain then

[bronze plume]

downgrade in single target sidegrade in aoe

[civic trail]

Does using the same kit gear stack? I know they do for the set bonus, but what about this part?

[tranquil burrow]

Umbral has 1 team gameplay

[rare zodiac]

Then where sp if no Ake

[manic blade]

ur heal items

but gilb gets teeny amount of heals + lift which means they can't hit u

[bronze plume]

your healing items and a very little bit from gilberta

[rare zodiac]

Can’t heal on boss

[glacial plover]

guess its bricked

[manic blade]

also dodge is very fkn generous in this game...

[manic blade]

don't need heal if you one cycle

[hybrid quest]

gilberta technically heals

[glacial plover]

i have no healing item, haven't touch anything related to Factory yet

[rare zodiac]

Can you one cycle umbra tho

[bronze plume]

i mean umbral has a stage that just has hp drain

[manic blade]

bro... that is the #1 source of lvl up mats

[bronze plume]

for the 99% they will need ardelia

[rare zodiac]

With no ult start

[rugged kiln]

Or ember

[glacial plover]

smh i am still kicking in, i am like 51 level and 70/80 characters

[bronze plume]

nobody needs ember

ember doesnt even need ember

[rugged kiln]

I’m an ember shill

[rare zodiac]

Ember doesn’t fit anywhere

[manic blade]

ppl that died to rhod need ember be nice

[tranquil burrow]

Wait until next big boss is someone with 12 stagger nodes

[torn raft]

everyone seems to need her for vuln stacks

[bronze plume]

people do that?

[manic blade]

some people can't dodge with a 120 i frame dodge

[bronze plume]

is there a medal for it why are people going outta there way to do that

[manic blade]

4 confirmed kills all time

we should give them free ember copies

[bronze plume]

bros kill count is still lower then mine L

[rare zodiac]

I don’t even die when testing rotation with lv40 char what is people doing?

[bronze plume]

its this thing called

difference in skill

[manic blade]

some ppl are bad at games

[hidden lantern]

Device matters too. I can't dodge for my life on ipad, I eat a lot of hits

But I become a grandmaster ninja on PC

[bronze plume]

we are here to make them less bad and bully them for being bad in the first place for 0 unjustified reasons

thats why we exist

[daring dove]

I suppose the one good thing about Gilberta's sig versus the alternatives is the activation requirement on it is super easy.

So uptime will be effectively always.

[bronze plume]

the good thing about gilbertas sig is that im giving 4th best girl her fav weapon

and that to me is goals

[rare zodiac]

Waifu>meta

[manic blade]

• ult gain

[robust vault]

would last rite / xaihi / aredlia / gilberta be any good?

[hidden lantern]

I tried to hit this becaused I wanted chicken, but it wouldn't let me chop chop it

[manic blade]

you can't run ard and gilb ):

[robust vault]

why not D:

[tranquil burrow]

the better thing is that it doesn't consume SP to get the buff compared to say the BP weapon which will consume SP

[rare zodiac]

No

[manic blade]

check ard bskill explanation vulnerability blocks u

[rare zodiac]

But if you change Gib with Fluo tho

Pretty solid

[manic blade]

I so sad I wish I could run both

considering i 90/90 ard for the bench...

[rare zodiac]

Easy to play, pretty braindead rotation, no qte delay nor combo cd management need

[hidden lantern]

Ardelia and Gilberta can go together (I'm doing it right now), idk about single target effectiveness though.

Xaihi, no clue. Last Rite, no clue.

But I heard Last Rite had a very strict requirements to do well? Team synergy is necessary?

[robust vault]

i just want to use gilberta in more than 1 place lol

[robust vault]

do their sus not stack or something? whats the downside?

[daring dove]

Do you think she needs much Ult gain btw, with a 20 second CD on her ult an a 90 cost I'm kinda doubting it?

[manic blade]

ya no I'm hard getting it off CD every cycle

but i do have sig tbf

p3 and p4 seem useless for that reason

[hidden lantern]

Probably downsides.. main thing I was trying out is, "can I run around having fun with them and it actually works well?" and it does. Gilberta gravity works pretty well, and Ardelia triggers Gilberta's combo.

I didn't know about the suscepts being unable to stack or something, I guess that's one downside if correct

[rare zodiac]

After Gib applied vulnerability your Arde will become a pink sheep mascot and just there to be cute and doesn’t do anything

[robust vault]

nah it says they can stack in the desc so

[frigid vector]

ardelia needs you to final strike enemies with no vuln or arts infliction

and gil applies lift which is vuln

[robust vault]

ohh right i forgot she applies lift ughh

[frigid vector]

ye

[robust vault]

im sure in aoe it works pretty well tho

[frigid vector]

so you just sit and wait for the 20s phys debuff to run out

[robust vault]

but yeah ST or just harder content its not gonna

[frigid vector]

and that's kind of it

[daring dove]

Yeah, I kinda got that feeling when looking at it. I have given her this set for now since it broadly matches her required stats. However I might swap the chest piece for something with main & sub stat if I feel it's too much.

[frigid vector]

ardelia not much of an aoe fiend anyways

[hidden lantern]

The lift is from Gilberta combo, which triggers after Ardelia's own combo in that duo

[frigid vector]

since ardelia combo skill is similar CD you can kind of work around it

by allowing it to drop

[hidden lantern]

So it works out, though you'll want to consume the Vuln stack before Ardelia combo refreshes

Or kill everything

[frigid vector]

but it's not really a comfortable comp

[robust vault]

so whats LR best team rn

[rare zodiac]

And how are you gonna consume it lul

[hidden lantern]

Idk, though I guess I'm getting that cozy zone just because they die before I deal with the Vuln stack

[manic blade]

you can't consume vuln with arts tho

works with phys ig

[rare zodiac]

But again Gib with phys team is a troll pick

[rare zodiac]

LR Xaihi Perlica Fluo/Adre

[hidden lantern]

Looks like it really is just that I'm killing everything fast enough that the problem doesn't get to show itself.

If the fight takes a while, it seems the vuln stacks will prevent Ardelia from comboing again.

I need to test on a sturdy enemy to see what happens in reality

[robust vault]

got it ty

[daring dove]

That's kind of meh, I just noticed you can't use a character as your profile theme unless they're P5?

I thought we've be able to use the P1/P3 art as well.

[next helm]

Yes

[tranquil burrow]

and the artwork is equally as good too, it's lame

[next helm]

It sucks cause the art is very nice

[rare zodiac]

P2W dif

[next helm]

So p5 get special effect and a background

Kinda wack

[tranquil burrow]

even in worst case they could allow P5 havers to use P1/P3 art but obviously more sensible would be respective P for profile

[bronze plume]

its just a whale cosmetic who cares

[tranquil burrow]

The people who like that artwork?

[rare zodiac]

Well better than x2 performance and make later content need better char and then powercreep snowballing

[bronze plume]

im sure at the end of the day nobody is deeping their arknights endfield profile background

[rare zodiac]

Well it would be nice to have ngl

Lae is very cute

[frozen tide]

damn i can 2 ult rhod

[hidden lantern]

Oh boss fight is free to try

[frozen tide]

did not expect that with my half built rite

[rare zodiac]

Mean 2 ult rotation to kill or you can 2 cs to ult?

[hidden lantern]

What's the vuln stack duration? 20s? 30s?

[daring dove]

That's an unfortunate point to run out of resources.

[thorn shore]

even the 600 stam aint saving you

[bronze plume]

its a shame you arent a whale and cant just get the resouces needed

oh wait

[manic blade]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_9TNOfWEAAvFAK.gif

[daring dove]

I used all my wish currency.

[bronze plume]

spend more pulls

[manic blade]

just spend more

[hidden lantern]

This team needs a Heat Inflictor that also consumes Vuln Nobody yet. Maybe Rossi will

[manic blade]

^^

[bronze plume]

whats it matter to a whale of yo calibur

just spend 4head

[rare zodiac]

That is oddly specific, not gonna happen imo

[errant fern]

hello does anyone know if you proc this just before avywenna's sword comes back to her

[bronze plume]

its right when you press the skill button yes

[hidden lantern]

Probably, yea

[tranquil burrow]

Ayo maybe that's why Rossi gave me phys dps and heat vanguard vibes

[manic blade]

prayge rossi works perfect in laev gilb team

[rare zodiac]

I need a vanguard to replace Ake in my Lae team

[tranquil burrow]

Laev Wulf Rossi Gilb trust

[manic blade]

if her heat app is good enough she could just replace wulf, wulf gives jack shi for buffs

[tranquil burrow]

Clannibal will pop off because Gilb doesn't consume SP and Rossi will give 10000 of it and we build subdps Wulf finally

[rare zodiac]

Ake combo condition is too unreliable, need stagger to trigger is so ass on bossing

[humble hinge]

Chat, rate my avyllum setup. All beam towers

[tranquil burrow]

Wulf's sig has a ridiculously strong debuff

Trust Rossi to enable subdps Wulf

[manic blade]

on a skill we refuse to use in rotations

[rare zodiac]

Well free heat stack is good enough imo

[tranquil burrow]

Speak for yourself

I see flashy shiny skill I press

Can't resist sometimes

I don't have Clannibal

[drifting quest]

does someone have a list of the drops/stage for everything
trying to calc how much sanity it's gonna cost to invest into a second team

[manic blade]

i have p4 clannibal

[tranquil burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1qylz26/is_the_making_fresh_new_teams_too_grindy/

This might be helpful, saw it while scrolling

[rare zodiac]

Well i try to utilize wulf and let said he MAY EBS one in 60s rotation

That the best i can do

[drifting quest]

does absolutely nothing for me but thanks for the effort

[rare zodiac]

A for effort

[hidden lantern]

Idk if they have it but I found this site very useful, good luck https://endfieldtools.dev/

[tranquil burrow]

It does say 74 days worth of sanity

Sounds like a lot

[drifting quest]

im trying to calculate how much extra sanity i need to spend based on what i already own

so i can minmax what i buy versus what i farm

[hidden lantern]

There's ascension planner here: https://endfieldtools.dev/ascension-planner/, idk if it's satisfactory tho

[rare zodiac]

I am trying my second team rotation, i can feel my sanity reaching critical levels

[celest carbon]

wtf is this

what tool is that

looks cool

[rare zodiac]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[celest carbon]

thanks

this is so useful for optimizing rotations wtf

[tranquil burrow]

How do you make it show up in english like in the screencap?

[rare zodiac]

Web translation extension

[tranquil burrow]

[rare zodiac]

The first 60s work pretty well

But there is sp problem after that

1 forgotten Final strike and shit go haywire

[next helm]

This is kinda flawed logic, cause you get one booster daily

[midnight stirrup]

This fuck ahh game wont give me my essence

[tranquil burrow]

just say ass brother

[rare zodiac]

Welcome to gacha game

[stable egret]

Is it worth to go full-on INT build on Xaihi if my main use for her is Cryo Amp (which scales with INT)? I found Ardelia's weapon to be great for it as it's free, has INT Main stat and gives around +20% to secondary attribute (which is INT in Xaihi's case) but idk if it's preferrable over a standard Will build.

[midnight stirrup]

No

[next helm]

If you have someone that does the xeranite set buff

its always worth

but it might still be worth anyway

[rare zodiac]

First you have to have enough energy efficiency to match your team dps window, 10% more amp is dps loss if it can’t be activated at right time

[midnight stirrup]

@floral cosmos

[floral cosmos]

soup

[drifting quest]

i forgot to check the math on xiranite vs int stacking xaihi

if no other holder

[rare zodiac]

As long as it reaches the energy efficiency requirements, you are good

[wild meteor]

How impt is gilberta in the current meta? Shld I try for pity if I don't get her early

[drifting quest]

she's in a weird spot

[wild meteor]

I feel like she's probably an okay skip rn

[rare zodiac]

Yeah, outside of Yvonne team she is no where to be found

[wild meteor]

I'm just fomo I think 🤔

[midnight stirrup]

dm

[drifting quest]

at the absolute highest end of speedrunning she is near mandatory

for the average endgame player she has 2 teams one of which isnt a real team (yvonne)

for overworld qol she's near mandatory again

[wild meteor]

Her suction range isn't as high as I'd hope it'd be

[tranquil burrow]

She will probably be one of the first few reruns even if she later turns out to be super important in the meta

[midnight stirrup]

Honestly she can be ran with anyone in overworld which is kinda convience 101

I cant stack on aoe with my LR anyway

[drifting quest]

something something the gilberta graph

[rare zodiac]

That I can’t deny

[midnight stirrup]

so might aswell use Gilb with LR skills that deal aoe

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah but overworld is overworld, there's like nothing to actually do in overworld 🧱

[midnight stirrup]

Theres nothing to do for endgame either

Atleast overworld has essences

where shes rly useful

[wild meteor]

I'm kinda doing okay with antal with essences (wuling)

[rare zodiac]

Does this apply if umbra? Where no ult at start?

[drifting quest]

we dont know where umbral falls yet

but it'll likely be between normal clears and overworld

putting her pretty average

[bronze plume]

that is

lore accurate

information on umbral

[next helm]

Potentially very good

at some point there will be a nature dps

[bronze plume]

umbral is basically just energy alluvium if the enemies had any amounts of hp and dmg and there was a unique modifier

[drifting quest]

she kinda does nothing for 2/3 of the first umbral maps

and we dont know what the second set will have at all

so

potential woman

[bronze plume]

1/3 is still better then embers

we take those

[tranquil burrow]

infinite shield enemies with the only way past being to stagger them

it was ember shilling all along

[rare zodiac]

Lmao potential

[drifting quest]

reminder ember does not stagger better than just regular phys teams

!!

[shut cobalt]

does someone have that one image with % of etching essences/value of gel?

[drifting quest]

any use case for ember is because you want to use her

[tranquil burrow]

really oughta pin that one

[real palm]

but.. she does bonus stagger

[drifting quest]

clueless

[rare zodiac]

She need us to be hit to add vul stack, kinda ass, would be cool if her cs was to intercept the attack and knockdown

[daring dove]

I was hoping Embers P5 would make her decent, but as I read it at most you can get a 50% uptime on her 10% ATK buff. An watch it won't even buff base ATK.

It'll be a general attack buff

So really it's just a 5% ATK buff.

[drifting quest]

p5 ember to give less value than 1 thermite cutter

[next helm]

Module when

[real palm]

was I imagining it or does her sheild prevent her own combo skill

[next helm]

Her entire existence prevents combo skill

[shut cobalt]

?

[next helm]

This one?

[rare zodiac]

Man i need more gear, these gear is so limited

Where my 200% efficiency dps gear

Why only sp get the 200% efficiency

[next helm]

I have the feeling we are gonna replace most sets

[rare zodiac]

I really doubt that they will release higher lv gear, just more set

I need my 200% efficiency with aspd buff so Lae can go ham

[next helm]

Sets that are better suited

more specific but give more

[rare zodiac]

That is a boring approach, if there is signatures gear set too

The beauty is in unholy combinations

It’s art

[rustic knoll]

after playing last rite alot holy fuck she is boring compared to physical

[next helm]

Currently we have

[rare zodiac]

Phys is equally boring no?

[next helm]

if you ult give dmg%

[hidden lantern]

Even if she was buffed, her kit doesn’t lend itself to slaughter

[rustic knoll]

atleast theres alot of buttons to press and stuff happening, LR is literally just spam 2-3 stack combo on repeat

[rare zodiac]

Phys is just aa to dead with occasional bs cs no?

[hidden lantern]

It’s like comparing one character that projects power in steady slow hits, to another character that projects power with multiple force multiplications and a detonation of Solidified enemies… to name one.

ATK is exploited far more by the non-Ember. RIP

[rustic knoll]

occasional is the wrong descriptor

u get HEAPS of combos off 24/7

whereas an optimized last rite rotation is significantly less

[rare zodiac]

15s cd say hello

[rustic knoll]

fluorite 40 secs zzZ

[rare zodiac]

So you want combo huh? Try this

[rustic knoll]

dont have yvonne but looks about the same as the LR team anyways

[rare zodiac]

Would be glad if you can pull off tho

[rustic knoll]

whats hard about it ?

[hidden lantern]

If Yvonne but no Last Rite, what team do I build?

[rustic knoll]

LR has 1 button per final strike and Xai has 1 button every 2

thats afk gameplay pre much

[daring dove]

Btw this weapon also seems kind of good for Phy teams? Although it does require the wielder consume the stacks.

[rustic knoll]

do u have gilberta

[hidden lantern]

Yes

[rustic knoll]

yvonne gilberta xaihi fluorite

fluorite BIS in any cryo team imo

same with xaihi

[rare zodiac]

We need ice wulf

Fluo 40s cs is killing me

[hidden lantern]

It looks like a Pog weapon, can he use it? This or Never Rest, basically. It’s a weaker version of Never Rest, probably

[rustic knoll]

ye cryo is is just so sleeper atm

rotations are so slow

[hidden lantern]

40s CD rotation? Wth

That can’t be right

[rustic knoll]

nah its 40 sec for fluorites combo in specific, u do multiple sets of rotation in one "big" rotation

[rare zodiac]

You can try my LR Yvonne rot, it quite difficult to consistently pull of but the potential seem pretty good

[drifting quest]

Lr yvonne

[rustic knoll]

LR battleskillFINAL > LR battleskillFINAL > FLU combo > LR combo > XAI battleskill > LR battleskillFINAL > LR battleskillFINAL > XAI combo > LR combo > AKE combo > LR battleskillFINAL > LR battleskillFINAL > FLU combo > XAI battleskill > LR battleskillFINAL > FLU battleskill > LR battleskillFINAL > XAI combo (ake can proc here) > XAI ult > FLU ult > LR combo > AKE ult > LR ult

[hidden lantern]

I’m going to have to look up why Fluorite is so wanted in this kinda comp

[rustic knoll]

this what im using atm

[hidden lantern]

40s CD sounds like a reason to bench her

[next helm]

40s*

[rustic knoll]

combo gives a cryo stak, ult also gives a cryo stack, so u ult when ur combo on cd for rotation to always have +1 stack in ur rotation

[drifting quest]

She's a cope stack generator

Thats it

She is not good

[rustic knoll]

she is very good for efficiency

[drifting quest]

Cryo is just kinda terrible right now if you dont one rot

[hidden lantern]

Is Yvonne very mighty at least?

[drifting quest]

Hence why cryo teams are
Lr/yvonne
Xaihi
Perlica
Akekuri for lr
Gilb for yvonne

[rare zodiac]

No?

[rustic knoll]

perlica does not cap as high as fluorite for dps efficiency, but u get a bigger number

fluo better

[drifting quest]

You want to 1rot

Fluorite does nothing for that

[rare zodiac]

LR team can consistently do their rotation

[rustic knoll]

ive used both teams on level 90 rhodagn and my fluo clear time was faster but then again im not 100% min maxed but fairely close

[rare zodiac]

Not necessarily a 1 rot team

[rustic knoll]

anyways pogchamp/lifeng clear to be cooler , more flashy and superior so who cares!

[hidden lantern]

I guess I’ll use my time today to look at Yvonne and see if I like playing her

Speaking of trying out a team without everyone being brutalized in max exploration level, I heard there’s a 24 hour cooldown to lowering exploration again.. what about raising it after lowering it?

[drifting quest]

idk how your fluorite team was faster

unless its a giga cope last rite/yvonne

[rustic knoll]

just use who u find fun, if ur yvonne is leveled there is a good chance u will be fine, u dont need perfect gear/essense

[rustic knoll]

no it was just LR Xaihi Fluorite Akekuri vs LR Xaihi Ardelia Perlica

[hidden lantern]

I already have a hyper invested Laevatain that’s slaughtering, I’m just wanting variety

[drifting quest]

ok so you see

when you gimp the perlica team for no real reason

[rare zodiac]

1 more stack is 240% more multiple on LR cs, better than 12% art taken imo

[drifting quest]

by not giving her access to link

these things tend to happen

[rustic knoll]

fair enough

anyways physical cooler ^_^

havent used currency on a single limited pull and my fingers are twitching

[next helm]

Physical is like a completed team

with multiple options

cryo is cope atm

[drifting quest]

im stuck choosing if i want to build electric to use the gilb i pulled

[next helm]

In the future it could feel fine

[drifting quest]

or phys because its more fun

[rustic knoll]

fun always the best option

[drifting quest]

honestly both are fun actually

[rare zodiac]

Heat is somewhat complete but still cope

[rustic knoll]

i just need to save summons for 2 years and the p6 the next dps that comes out

ez pz

[rare zodiac]

Bro…..

[high finch]

how much you saved so far i wonder?

[frigid vector]

meet in the middle

[rustic knoll]

i can pull 140

[frigid vector]

just don't crown skills

and go easy on artificing

[next helm]

M1 is fine for now

[drifting quest]

im not even doing either of that

[next helm]

Thats my general thought

[high finch]

you haven't cleared a lot,right?

[drifting quest]

and i cant afford 80/80 phys lmao

[frigid vector]

wtf

[rustic knoll]

im almost full clear

[drifting quest]

im short on protohedrons and the t5 stuff

[frigid vector]

maybe cause I got p2w battlepass/monthly but

I'm sitting on like

[high finch]

how are you 140 than. i have 185 and i pulled like 30 on lava

[drifting quest]

i have bp and monthly

[frigid vector]

11-12 of the 100 sanity items still

expires in like a week?

[drifting quest]

i invested partially into last rite and yvonne because of copers

[frigid vector]

damn

[drifting quest]

i had to test it because they would not shut up about it

[frigid vector]

I respect the attempt tbh

[rustic knoll]

im not counting any free pulls

[manic blade]

$70 worth a pulls can get you all of it

[frigid vector]

ye fairs...

[fresh lynx]

Do you guys like Pulser gloves or Yinglung T1 gloves on Avywenna more?

[drifting quest]

ill build both eventually just gotta see which one i want to do first

[frigid vector]

think pulser should be better

you're losing a minuscule amount of secondary for a fat general dmg bonus

haven't done the math but

felt better

[rustic knoll]

still wondering though, how are they gonna give us more pulls for future patches, with the current rate of currency i dont see how we can get another 120 in 2 patches time

unless they drop whole new maps

[frigid vector]

if it was battle skill and not combo on yinglung it'd be huge

but alas

[next helm]

Can't know patch economy in a 1.0 game

[frigid vector]

ye maybe 1.1 is event city

or maybe it's a drought

[rustic knoll]

ye but just assuming off of what we have

[frigid vector]

time will tell

if they give pulls it'd likely be from events

[high finch]

maybe events. but these 2 events we got gave us like how many? 5 pulls?

[tranquil burrow]

This new picture event seems quite juicy on progression mats at least

[manic blade]

Need those umbral crowns ngl

[next helm]

These 2 events are cope

[drifting quest]

we have like 3 more events

[next helm]

I was looking for something to do

[drifting quest]

2x umbral monument plus one more

[next helm]

1 was auto complete

[rustic knoll]

im also kinda let down on the AIC it was way too easy for it to be a main mechanic

was hoping satisfactory levels of factory building

[drifting quest]

i think aic is in a fair spot

[tranquil burrow]

I hear HG supposedly does not follow Hoyo formula of tossing pull currency in endgame or events.

[drifting quest]

its not too easy, not too complex

[next helm]

Imo every refugee camp should have their own wanted items

[rustic knoll]

imo too easy

[next helm]

Not just the best = fine

[drifting quest]

arknights endgame has like 0 pulls tied to it

its purely for the love of the game and the flex

[tranquil burrow]

Which is strange to me because events are the easiest way to make a game unfriendly to new players by making sure they don't have 5000 pulls to start with 3 years from now (which is what these companies want obv)

[drifting quest]

regular events have the pull income

[high finch]

how much umbral gave on cbt?

[drifting quest]

0(?)

it has some now

[tranquil burrow]

I would rather they move income to endgame than the way it's distributed right now

I don't care if 1.0 has 240 pulls in it if I have to do 65000 things to gather scraps

[drifting quest]

Feb 12 - Umbral Monument #1
Feb 24 - Delver of the Cryptic Puzzle Event
Feb 26 - Umbral Monument #2

[rustic knoll]

im scared ill get bored of arknights, its been a coupler weeks and ive already ran out of things to do, and the next patch isnt for a bit

so like the game is kinda zzZ

[tranquil burrow]

That's your gacha game with stamina nonsense. As much as people like to pretend it doesn't gacha monetization warps gameplay around it.

[glad niche]

Its a 1.1 waiting room tbh and has been since week1

[next helm]

If you didn't play on beta

it isn't

[rustic knoll]

i didnt play beta

and im kinda in the same boat

[next helm]

Yeh me 2

But every normal gamer doesn't play 10 hours a day

[rustic knoll]

like YES i can go collect every chest but like 😭

[tranquil burrow]

You don't like 15 oroberylls?

[rustic knoll]

i didnt play that much i just played like from 7-10 every day, pre reasonable

7 pm - 10 pm *

[next helm]

My irl friend just met yvonne

[frigid vector]

I still haven't maxed exploration

[tranquil burrow]

Same

[frigid vector]

literally had to take today to speed through etchspace since I didn't tackle it early

[tranquil burrow]

I kinda cleared out a few zones in Valley and then my willpower died when I got to Wuling

[frigid vector]

if anything I need more time

[tranquil burrow]

Still haven't done etchspace

I get the motivation to do this sort of stuff when I'm desperate for pulls

[midnight stirrup]

Huh

[rustic knoll]

i think my biggest issue (self placed) is doing 0 pulls

[midnight stirrup]

I thought everyone agreed by now perlica xaihi ardelia is the best LR team

[rustic knoll]

i havent gacha'd in the gacha game

[tranquil burrow]

I had the most fun in quarry of all places

[drifting quest]

ardelia is more comfort but you never really get to fit her skill in so its like stanza bot

[tranquil burrow]

The level design in this game is superb

[drifting quest]

akekuri is thermite + link + her own attack buff

[midnight stirrup]

🤔

I am able to fit the skill in tho

but im not entirely sure whether my rot is good

[rustic knoll]

wait so i shud sub fluo out for perlic and keep akekuri over ardelia and just electrify b4 combo/ult ?

[drifting quest]

i mean its endfield

[midnight stirrup]

akekuri does sound interesting now tho

[drifting quest]

its gonna work

[midnight stirrup]

since I have thermite

[drifting quest]

ake is better one taps

thats where the 1.5-2mil screenies come from

[drifting quest]

should just perform better but 90% of this game is feelscraft

[rustic knoll]

i meannn feelscraft is only if u appreciate comfort, there are objective better combos

[midnight stirrup]

I need the rot for that one

with akehuri

I should be able to hit 2m

[fringe lintel]

Do we have any idea on how good Yvonne's weapon will be for her? I'm between pulling her weapon and Gilberta's

[drifting quest]

its just your average 1tap setup

[midnight stirrup]

idk it regardless

[drifting quest]

ake ult before you combo > ult

link is used on the ult

[midnight stirrup]

hmm ic

you dont use combo/skill on ake?

[drifting quest]

atk buffs for both

[midnight stirrup]

in lr

[drifting quest]

skill never

combo you can but its like nothingburger for last rite

[rustic knoll]

do u still wait for 4 cryo stacks without fluorite or just eat the combo at 3

[midnight stirrup]

So how would rot look

[rare zodiac]

If operating with no start energy would that team still be ok?

[rustic knoll]

blud it is not that different

[midnight stirrup]

bro stfu im not asking u

[rustic knoll]

use ur brain 😭

[rare zodiac]

Ey chill

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi BS > LR BS FS > LR BS FS > Xaihi Combo > Perlica Combo > LR BS FS > Xaihi Ult > Akehuri Ult > LR Combo > Ult

@drifting quest

[drifting quest]

looks roughly right

[daring dove]

It's nice that you don't have to take Gilberta's ult past level 10, saves a few resources at least.

[drifting quest]

there's the whole tech about anim cancelling and all

[midnight stirrup]

Yea I be anim cancelling

atleast

on LR

[daring dove]

I guess I'll just take ult to 10 & combo trigger to 12.

[midnight stirrup]

just didnt feel the need to include

[ocean flame]

is perlica akekuri better than fluorite ardelia?

[midnight stirrup]

If you got thermite cutter

sure

[rustic knoll]

guy with LR pfp didnt know akekuri is core

gg

[midnight stirrup]

God forbid people like characters and want to learn about how they work

Are you 12

fucking nonse

[rustic knoll]

are you 12? cant basic math

https://tenor.com/view/daddy-chill-stop-gif-15416847

[drifting quest]

tc drama gross

https://tenor.com/view/fangyi-can-you-stop-fucking-around-gif-2298645845255946638

[rustic knoll]

fr

[midnight stirrup]

bro saying fr like he isnt the drama with me

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176006795874021427/1469320967359828092/jfb01.gif

[rare zodiac]

If not tc pls bring it to general

[rustic knoll]

this guy malding

[drifting quest]

is this seseren

[next helm]

Yes

[midnight stirrup]

dont give yourself that credit bro

[drifting quest]

im used to seeing their name included

so i couldnt tell if it was a lookalike or theirs

[next helm]

I don't know why its not there

[drifting quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438785797334503506/1469026229184233679/caption.gif

[next helm]

I copied it from their post

[rustic knoll]

u told me to "stfu" after telling u the rotation is the exact same but u apply the one thing u subbed akekuri in for before u deal ur dmg

[midnight stirrup]

mustve missed the part where i said i wasnt sure whether my rot was right and wanted to confirm

ur actually a nonse

[rustic knoll]

how could u possibly be unsure given the context was u need link

[midnight stirrup]

are u slow

lmfao

[manic blade]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_9TNOfWEAAvFAK.gif

[rustic knoll]

are u that dense

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902105645686325258/1307986031726956585/ebf4eecc7d3b846a6f3422378d7365bf.gif

[midnight stirrup]

waste of air

[rustic knoll]

look how worked up he is

AHAHAHA

[next helm]

Stop ragebaiting

[midnight stirrup]

stop projecting lil bro

gatekeeping tc like a 12 year old

[rustic knoll]

gatekeeping ?!?!?!?

LOL

[rare zodiac]

I’m here for tc and number not this bullshit, pls bring it to general

[midnight stirrup]

lack self reflection too

yea ill drop it now

[rustic knoll]

read what ur typing

[midnight stirrup]

like i said waste of air

[rustic knoll]

this shit is hillarious

[daring dove]

It'll be cool if these two can eventually go into a really toxic Nature team together. If we get a Nature DPS on Laevatains level they'll break the game.

[next helm]

Break how

[midnight stirrup]

Dont they have anti synergy

[daring dove]

Only in the current teams as I understand it?

[midnight stirrup]

I thought it was between the two of them

not the team theyre in

[rare zodiac]

Yeah the Gib lift do kick Arde in the back

[drifting quest]

they provide the same buffs near enough, so you just suffer from dilution issues

[rare zodiac]

1 combo and Arde suddenly becomes a harmless sheep

[midnight stirrup]

Do they not stack

[daring dove]

Yeah, that's the only issue I'm seeing but they're still going to be very effective together don't see any anti-synergy issues outside of that in a Nature team.

We'll see I guess

[magic stream]

Ooo pretty

[drifting quest]

depends which one you mean

[rare zodiac]

Gib applied vulnerability, Arde can’t cs if FS hit enemies with infliction/vulnerrability

[midnight stirrup]

no clue tbh idk what buffs overlap

just wondering if they stack regardless

[tranquil burrow]

Gilb has a stronger debuff and it's aoe but lasts only 5 seconds. Ardelia has a slightly weaker debuff and its single target but it lasts several times longer.

[midnight stirrup]

That reminds me

Gilb ult the one giving the 5s debuff right

[daring dove]

Not sure what you mean?

[dapper mason]

hello, this effect cant be triggered with final strike right ?

[midnight stirrup]

Does it keep counting when u press other ults, or do ults freeze the timer?

[blazing lake]

@rare rover what are your thoughts on gilberta + surtr

[tranquil burrow]

I would just swap the two around depending on scenario

[rare rover]

good for certain stuff but not her absolute bis

[tranquil burrow]

Ardelia also has better sustain for those who care about that

[daring dove]

Ardelia's debuff should be up pretty much full time in a Nature team, an Gilberta's only triggers during ult anyway.

I can't see them causing issues with each other in Nature.

[rustic knoll]

who da fuq is in a nature team for dps

[next helm]

Future character

[midnight stirrup]

🤦

[rustic knoll]

noted, was afk

[next helm]

Many gachas do this btw

[frigid vector]

no, final strike doesn't count as "a skill" so it doesn't meet the criteria (despite batk being listed as a skill tehcnically)

[rare zodiac]

Arde need someone to fs on enemies with no infliction/vulnerbility, Gib cs add vulnerability

[next helm]

Strikers pfp is a good example

[tranquil burrow]

Gilberta can't have more than a 25% uptime but her debuff itself is a fair bit stronger so I can see burst DPS chars (the bnuy) making the best of it. Laev ult is more sustained than anything so I feel like Ardelia is goated for her.

[next helm]

niche character released is one of the best 5 patches later

[rustic knoll]

different topic-ish but having access to ardelia i see little reason to pull gilberta unless ur hope maxing for future drops

[midnight stirrup]

Yea, Gilberta def intended for future units

[blazing lake]

I 120 gilberta for future mifu build

[dapper mason]

damn, swapping controlled operator tricks wont do much then

[midnight stirrup]

Unless Yvonne was actually their aim, then cringe.

[blazing lake]

[rustic knoll]

its funny cuz i think yvonne is worse than last rite

atm

[rare rover]

neat

[midnight stirrup]

everyone does

[rare zodiac]

That is true tho

[tranquil burrow]

I see them as serving different niches. Gilberta -> aoe and stronger debuff but only for burst chars. Ardelia -> single target and slightly weaker debuff but lasts waaay longer.

Oh yeah forgot to consider this: Gilberta debuff is kind of free, Ardelia debuff consumes SP.

[rustic knoll]

idk whos everyone cuz i dont consume gacha content, drains some of the fun out of learning stuff yo self

just me tho

[tranquil burrow]

assuming sig for both. On that note, Ardelia sig effect is way stronger.

[high finch]

ardelia signature also have strong debuff

[rustic knoll]

and i apologize for coming off rude, in my head at the time i just thought it was a weird question to ask considering the new unit in rotation servves a purpse to ult and nothing more ^_^ mb tho

[rare zodiac]

Yvonne need strictly 131% efficiency and p1 to ult with 4 stack infliction consumption, if not, the rot will be super lengthy and inefficient

[midnight stirrup]

Everyone as in its common knowledge rn that Yvonne is worse than LR

Yvonne has major issues

[tranquil burrow]

Gilberta sig's buff is %dmg done which is additive with the 5 trillion sources of it, whereas Ardelia sig gives %dmg taken debuff to enemies which is a separate and rather rare multiplier.

ayo you edited

Oh well

[high finch]

i meant ardelia yeah

her signature debuff is better

[midnight stirrup]

You cant assume whats logical to you is logical to everyone else. People trying to learn is not a bad thing.

[high finch]

a lot better

than gilberta one

[midnight stirrup]

But yea mb for getting personal.

[frigid vector]

you still want to cycle through final strikes quickly for stagger/sp generally, just that you don't get frontiers from it tbh

[rustic knoll]

yes brother thats why i apologized ❤️

[rare zodiac]

Ah yes harmony

I love this

[rustic knoll]

im gonna touch you

[cobalt cypress]

is yvonne + gilb still worse than last rite hc?

[drifting quest]

yes

[cobalt cypress]

woe

[high finch]

i think that ardelia signature is straight up op. the debuff is really strong

[cobalt cypress]

do I just ignore my random yvonne pull and get gilberta sig then...

[rare zodiac]

I just can’t combo with Yvonne

[rustic knoll]

this the first gacha i played where i have 0 "feels bad" feelings not summong limited

[thorn shore]

Anyone found out if we care about Gilberta p1 yet? Is it huge

[drifting quest]

depends on what you want

yvonne clears

[drifting quest]

no its useless for the scope of 90% of tc

its mostly useless qol for overworld but it can help

[cobalt cypress]

like - i have all of em, and my last rite is p1
how do i proceed and where I can stuff gilberta

[next helm]

This is the team

[tranquil burrow]

Seems like a qol pot nothing more nothing else

outside of maybe niche use cases for certain stages at some point

[calm gazelle]

as are most pots

[blazing lake]

The trim medal team OAT

[drifting quest]

either drop last rite for perlica to play yvonne
or drop yvonne (and gilberta unless you know what you're doing with your clear)
for perlica and akekuri

[calm gazelle]

does anyone have a website for a gear planner that has gear artificing stats?

[rare zodiac]

Yvonne just doesn’t work without p1 i am afraid, need 5 inflictions for ult is crazy sp hungry

[next helm]

I want to make that team but its so expensive rn

[tranquil burrow]

Prydwen has a team builder

[daring dove]

We do have to keep in mind though we can get upto 60% DMG off Gilberta's sig even if it is additive, Ardelia's caps out at 28%. Don't get me wrong Ardelia's is definitely a better debuff / buff, but I think both weapons are pretty good at their high potentials.

[high finch]

btw are those 15sec speedruns on lava for example only achievable on pot5 and maxed wpn?

[tranquil burrow]

Gilb's best case scenario requires fodder mobs in the equation

[rare zodiac]

Well one is 30s long and one is 5s

[high finch]

i wonder what's the fastest p0 clear on surtr

[calm gazelle]

unfortunately it doesnt account for maxed out artificing stats. trying to build an ult lavacake w/ 3 ult pieces & then slap a lynx slab if 3 max artifice ult pieces hit the 255 threshold

[daring dove]

Nope, one has 75% uptime the other has effectively infinite.

[blazing lake]

Do NOT

Use slab

[cobalt cypress]

tbh
Can yvonne even be saved

[blazing lake]

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-slab-gif-25530054

[tranquil burrow]

You can multiply the final stats by 1.3x and you get your numbers

[rare zodiac]

Elaborate

[cobalt cypress]

at this rate I am tempted to just

pull gil sig and put her into surtr team

[drifting quest]

yes but likely not in a way that doesnt also make last rite still just better