theorycrafting

[midnight stirrup]

It doesnt count towards pity, so its only worth for gamba or if you want the rate up

[frozen tide]

Multiplier wise considering crits especially yvonne should just hit higher single instance dmg than rite

[swift tundra]

Last rite has the fastest "f2p" P0 clear on Rhodagn currently at 21 seconds. 11 seconds with whale setup. Nothing is currently beating that.

[midnight stirrup]

Ill believe it when I see it

[frozen tide]

But i also haven't really seen that crazy Yvonne numbers

[midnight stirrup]

Highest ive seen Yvonne hit is 200-300k

[frozen tide]

Ik last rite is way better as a unit im just interested in the screenshot potential

[midnight stirrup]

And her damage isnt even single screenshot

She racks her damage up into a total number

[drifting quest]

Only if you dont mind losing 10 pulls to guarantee for a future unit or 6* pity

[midnight stirrup]

LR does single screenshot dmg

[next helm]

Yeah

My luck is kinda poop

so Ill never get something form the phantom 10 pull

[midnight stirrup]

I didnt either

then I got Gilberta the next 10 pull

😈

[vagrant sparrow]

is exemplar just bis here if im building phys team

[midnight stirrup]

Exemplar is Da Pan BiS

Detonation Unit is the overall best choice

[frozen tide]

Yeah

No other weap is used on a phys comp

And examplar is goated for panda

What box has that selection btw

Jet deto exemp is kinda lux

Wedge is aight as well

[cedar lava]

What gear should i put on Perlica?

[next helm]

Depends on the team

[cedar lava]

Im playing her with Laevatein

[frozen tide]

Perlica laev

Would that even work

[cedar lava]

i like Perlica and Laevatein, that's why i use both

[frozen tide]

Well that topic aside

Perlica generally runs pulsar for 2 reason

First is that the stats work nicely with her being int main will second

And her forced electrification debuff scales off arts intensity

And secondly when she triggers that electrification the set gives her 50 percent electro dmg increase

Which amps her ult dmg nicely

[next helm]

Combo skill applies electrification

But you can't use her Skill

[cedar lava]

Should i run 4 pieces Pulser then or slot another piece of something in?

[frozen tide]

4 piece is fine

You can off piece if you want

[vagrant sparrow]

this is the level45 selector

[frozen tide]

I run ult gen gloves only because i run her with rite and rites sp return property means perlica gets no fucking ult charge

I assume that wouldn't be a problem usually

[vagrant sparrow]

feels so bad farming essences just for the fodder

btu is like... most weapons are irrelevant

just trying to get Exemplar + Thermite cutter essences rn

[cedar lava]

Alright thx

[frozen tide]

Ic

I think i picked deto from it and forgot

Don't know how else i would have p2 deto

[neat snow]

I just tried triangle boss without foods to see how doable it was before I used resources and I one shot the trim

[frozen tide]

Goat

[halcyon zenith]

Gilberta worth it with p1 surtr + last rite and rest at p0? Or better to just wait up for future chars? The grouping seems nice but idk how useful she's gonna be compared to other stuff

[neat snow]

yay all trims

[next helm]

whel

Don't like how profile backgrounds are P5 locked

[weak meteor]

true

[snow bone]

Best 5 star gear for akekuri?

[drifting quest]

seals build

[next helm]

document in pins

[peak void]

is there an optimal way to do artificing? like maybe an easy way to force good match

please ping me if anyone knows, i will be going to sleep soon

[shut cobalt]

i assume this first set is the correct one for thermite, but how much artificing do u want in the 2 pieces there? notes dont say anything

[drifting quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx3w8oWMz7k&t=
works for stat lines
for auxiliary lines you can't do any better

~4:30 mark for list

[drifting quest]

less works if you don't hit the 52.6%, tends to be more for fortmaker that hits it

[shut cobalt]

ohh, so just artifice the ultimate gain on the first set's pieces to the max and call it a day with thermite?

[drifting quest]

you won't hit the full breakpoint but you'll see a decent increase yes

while still having decent intensity and thermites effect

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[high finch]

this yvonne team used only if you prefarm ult so you can just 1 rotation the boss?

[drifting quest]

it should be best for longer rotations too but also its yvonne you really dont want to go to a second rotation

[sand sentinel]

Whats better to pick? Lifeng p1 or ardelia p1?

[drifting quest]

if you play phys > lifeng
if you play arts teams that use ardelia > ardelia

[high finch]

how can you do a second rotation with this? you need 3 stacks and that's kinda not achievable. what you gonna do? press gilberta skill 3 times i a row?

[sand sentinel]

I currently using lae but planned to use both soon just need materials :’)

[drifting quest]

welcome to yvonne teams

[high finch]

and you need to do it like how many times to charge up the ult? 2-3?

[woeful plume]

do you have a better solution

[drifting quest]

welcome to yvonne teams

[woeful plume]

2

[high finch]

man yvonne sucks so much ass i can't believe it

[drifting quest]

yessir

[high finch]

imagine a boss with transitions

oh wait

2/3 are

[woeful plume]

no food marble probably takes 1 minute to kill the adds

[high finch]

btw does forced reactions like perlica elecrify stacks with art intensity? Also forced reactions are always lvl 1 right?

[high finch]

that sucks ass. and she can't even use regen set to work with

[drifting quest]

yes

intensity increases their effect

[high finch]

she needs like wolfguard but cryo

[woeful plume]

she needs jesus

[high finch]

also here,what is weakness factor?

oh nvm,i had to scroll a bit lower my bad

[woeful plume]

[drifting quest]

oh gilb quest

[daring dove]

What's the max possible int for Laevatain without buffs? I'm guessing I'm still about 40 away?

[drifting quest]

probably higher

i dont think anyone cared to check the rainbow setup with the most int

[next helm]

Banner is in 24 hours

Prydwen lying

[drifting quest]

banner should be in about 8

[next helm]

For NA I guess?

[drifting quest]

yeah

or well i thought banners were synced

for na/eu and asia server

[tight haven]

no

asias a few hours ahead

[drifting quest]

gg

[junior owl]

733 with 1 slab, 972 with artificed slab and 1 unartificed slab and tidefall, probably 1k with 2 artificed slabs and tidefall

[daring dove]

Ah because of the main attribute buff of course.

Would be funny to see an Laevatain with 8k ATK double slab even if it isn't that practical.

[torn raft]

Is it worth upgrading ember to lvl 60 just for the t2 exp cabin ability

[drifting quest]

yesnt

[woeful plume]

probably in a longgg run cuz thats the only way to "convert" small exp tickets to big ones

[torn raft]

Im wondering when it pays for itself lmao

[woeful plume]

eventually is the easy answer

[torn raft]

I think i can probably comfortably do the lifeng and perlica upgrades for mood recovery

But this one is questionable

Also it's sad that even yvonne's cabin ability sucks

[ripe parrot]

the fact that cabin skills aren't tied to the promotions is truly evil

also technically if you want to sweat you can do rotations instead of getting mood recovery operators

[torn raft]

Even with sweating mood recovery can let you put the high value cabin operators back in faster

You're right tho i need to tryhard the exp cabin @ripe parrot

[ripe parrot]

I haven't done any of the math to see if even sweating out the cabin is worth the effort

maybe I'll look into that soon

[drifting quest]

it will but probably not before a better unit with the same if not a better skill comes

is the idea

[ripe parrot]

because i don't have any cabin skills at the moment other than the super basic ones

[torn raft]

I guess that's fair, surely one of the next new ones have a double exp skill

[drifting quest]

also the way it works is you'll only get a roi for xp

and it requires making l1-60 xp

not level 61-90 xp

[dusk fog]

Do boss enemies scale their resistances with level or just HP and ATK

[drifting quest]

tldr i wouldnt level bad units for marginal extra dijiang gains

[torn raft]

I see it as getting a roi on everything since it would allow me to not need to spend as much sanity on exp

Or any at all if im lucky

But yeah ill probably just leave ember skill at lvl 1 probably not worth the small upgrade to the lvl 2 exp one

[ripe parrot]

I'm probably only going to upgrade cabin skills that take protoprisms

and not do any of the protohedron skills

[torn raft]

The double skill ones are turbo worth

Ardelia, pog, surtr, gilberta

The clue building netting me avg 20-40 arsenal tix a day, it's nice

[high finch]

do you know if anyone countent lifeng dmg output? like i wonder is it better to build im as a cycler or for his personal dmg

[ripe parrot]

I'll start investing in purple ones when I have about like a hundred more protohedrons lol

[drifting quest]

the higher investment the better it becomes to run him for damage

potentials and sig especially do a lot for his personal damage

[ripe parrot]

sig goes hard

[drifting quest]

no 6* weapon relegates him more to xiranite holder + ult bot

[high finch]

so if we have chen who does around 20% team dmg and how much lifeng gonna be?

around

[drifting quest]

depends on investment

that goes for all 4

[lime bear]

Laevatain proper teammate when that actually synergize really well and not ult bot 1 and 2

[high finch]

i want to make lifeng a beast

i have 2nd best spear

gonna pull his signature

[lime bear]

I'm not in mood to raise a 2nd team so prob gonna ignore Valiant

[drifting quest]

rossi

[lime bear]

might grab Clannibal if it rotates for the shop tho

[high finch]

same i feel so bad to invest valiant rn

[drifting quest]

ignore valiant but grab clannibal

a choice for sure

[high finch]

cause i'm gonna pull his signature anyway

[lime bear]

how's Valiant vs Lifeng sig

[drifting quest]

higher investment sig pulls ahead a decent chunk

lower investment pretty even

[lime bear]

tbh I actually might raise Physical as 2nd team more than Last Rite but I still dk

got Thermite for Pog, maybe buy Valiant for Lifeng and Sundering for Chen ig

[ripe parrot]

I'm waiting on second team investments until we see what kits the new operators will have

[lime bear]

but I don't want to raise Endmin or Dapan tho

cuz I feel like proper Physics MDPS soon tm

Chen can just use Sundering right

[mild quarry]

But endmin going to get more potentials in the future

[tranquil burrow]

I'm expecting less combo reliant ones given the sheer number of people who think Laev kills bosses slowly

[lime bear]

@drifting quest do you think Endmin P5 gonna pull ahead of Panda, do we even know what P5 Endmin does rn

cuz it's??? when I checked

[high finch]

i think i can farm lingyang signature essence but use it on valiant for now and grade for 9/9 and when i get his signature i swap

[drifting quest]

by the time we get p5 endmin we'll have a premium replacement for both

[lime bear]

true ig

hmmm

[daring dove]

Laevatain at P5 feels a lot better with ultimate gain at 80% plus rather than 75% as people have been suggesting. Sometimes with 75% I found myself missing a tiny bit of ultimate energy & was unable to burst. Now it's 80+ that's no longer an issue.

[tranquil burrow]

Or maybe they keep Endmin up to date with cracked OP dupes

[high finch]

so the best option is to invest lifen/chen?

[next helm]

Instead of summoning for Lifeng sig

[lime bear]

eh if Umbral doesn't get changed and there's no need for 2nd team, I won't raise anything til Fangyi team anyway

[tranquil burrow]

Same

[lime bear]

proper endgame multiple team should be 1.1++

[next helm]

Could you not just wait for eventually getting someone past P5

and buying it form that shop?

[woeful timber]

Respect, another Zhuang saver

[lime bear]

let's just dump all my sanity for hail Laevatain 9/9/4

[tranquil burrow]

inb4 combat endgame always requires one team for like 6 months or something

[lime bear]

still at 8/8/4 rn

[high finch]

imagine that. it's gonna take years

[lime bear]

unlikely, since dupes in Endfield only deals insignificant like 20-30% at P5, they'll reward horizontal investment more than vertical

[high finch]

only if you whale it can take seconds

[lime bear]

it just doesn't make sense

[neat snow]

I will try ult set but right now I haven't even needed to ult twice yet. Even on the trims I only ulted once

[tranquil burrow]

They have that in place with Dijiang and Outpost management and stuff

[lime bear]

holy sleepge

[next helm]

That depends on your luck

[tranquil burrow]

I mean I do expect multi-team content to come in

[ripe parrot]

36 fucking lattices

[next helm]

My irl friend has P2 ember and that is just f2p patch 1

[ripe parrot]

[lime bear]

you can ignore it and will lose almost nothing if you're diligent collecting overworld stuff

[full crown]

Anyone familiar with Lifeng and his weapons know what the numbers say in regards to this?

My current best option for Lifeng is P5 Pathfinders atm, or Chimeric. I see Valiant is on the rotating Arsenal shop for 2.4k, but there is also the Mountain Bearer standard banner. I'm really disinclined to pull on a standard weapon banner, but how does Valiant compare to Mountain, and is it worth spending the Arsenal on (I have like 17k saved up, and haven't pulled on limited banner yet), or should I just go with Pathfinder/Chimeric for now until I get a random upgrade? Is Valiant worth the 2.4k arsenal, or should I just hope to get a random Mountain down the line instead?

[high finch]

if i pul xiranite gloves on lifeng will it make it easier to get his ult faster? like he doesn't lose that much stats cause everysingle of his substat scales him

[woeful timber]

I got p5 Laevatain with 250 pulls so.. yea depends on your luck

[tranquil burrow]

The gold exp mats add up. If you're collecting 1 char per patch, they'll be enough to level your new char to 90 by themselves, saving you tons of sanity. Probably same with growth chamber if you actually memorize what mats are needed.

[ripe parrot]

how heavily invested is your lifeng and your phys team in general

[frigid vector]

[tranquil burrow]

And there will be more rooms in Dijiang in the future as well, probably for other mats?

[daring dove]

I think it's more BiS if you have some potentials of her sig as well. Without sig potentials unless your in AoE content I don't think there isn't much daylight between Hot Works & Ult gain build. However with a lot of sig potentials Ult gain is clearly better.

[full crown]

My main team atm is Physical, I've fully invested Endmin, and have Pog and Chen decently upgraded, 4th is currently Ardelia, but I just pulled Lifeng and am just starting to build him, I plan to move Ardelia to like, a Last Rite team or something eventually once I build it.

[neat snow]

I have maxed sig also

[ripe parrot]

if you want to cut costs, you can run him as support ult bot and ignore his sig

and phys susc applier

i'm doing that right now because i am turbomaxing chen

[daring dove]

Definitely do it then, what's better more uptime on your 210% buff from sig or half the uptime but 50% Hot works buff.

[full crown]

How much team DPS on average might I be missing out on by not having his sig or at least Valiant do you think?

[lime bear]

I'm waiting for 1.1 really, there seems to be a lot of cool stuff waiting seeing the New Horizon trailer

[tranquil burrow]

I'll be honest I've seen a grand total of 0 Endfield trailers

[daring dove]

This is the setup I found works for me.

[lime bear]

https://youtu.be/tN80M6IEMo0?si=-QcnuMaK-EKoOaBi

peak

[neat snow]

Yeah that looks good. Okay I'll try it

[daring dove]

People keep saying you only need 175% ultimate gain, but for me it feels way more comfy when shes 80+

[ripe parrot]

i haven't crunched the actual numbers but maybe like 5-15%? it honestly varies because lifeng goes crazy with high investment but that's a very big cost getting him to level 90 with 90 wep, artifices, etc.

[lime bear]

teases 2 more character besides Tangtang, MiFu, Fangyi, Rossi

[celest carbon]

there's no way 😭

[full crown]

Hrmm. I'm torn, I don't want to waste resources leveling a trash weapon that will be abandoned on my account later either. But I will probably underinvest him a bit for now until I build up a 2nd team, then go back and max him out later if content calls for it.

[drifting quest]

4 wuling / 2 valley 4 just feels like an odd split

[tranquil burrow]

Now the next 10 attempts will always be 30+ seconds off

[celest carbon]

nah surely next attempt

[drifting quest]

gotta wonder how its distributed

[ripe parrot]

yeah if you don't want to invest in him just give him a bad weapon and don't level it up and just use him to applie vuln/phys susc

just having lifeng will help you not have both da pan and endmin in the same team

[full crown]

Yeah, maybe I'll just have him use my partially leveled up Jet or something for now, since I was planning on Avy's team as being my 2nd one I was going to build, but I'll probably do Last Rite instead now.

[tranquil burrow]

I might be hallucinating but I believe you can fully transfer levels between weapons by feeding one to another, so you could level a bad weapon to 90 and then feed it to his sig or whatever later if you get it

[high finch]

but you also need mats to ascend it,don't you?

[full crown]

Yeah, like I said currently I'm running Endmin, Poggy and Chen, but yeah, Ardelia also messed with vuln stacking and SP use in an way thats annoying enough that imo her buffs/heals don't compensate enough for.

[tranquil burrow]

I think they transfer over as well? Let me do a quick experiment

[full crown]

TBH, for pre-80 weapons, ascension mats are nearly teh roadblock actual XP items are.

[high finch]

that's true

i feel so bad to invest wpns like valiant or sundering steel knowing i would replace them

[ripe parrot]

I felt like Arde had no place in the phys team so I didn't use her

[lime bear]

wdym

[full crown]

I got her P1, and she was really comfy while doing MSQ/exploring etc.

[tranquil burrow]

Nah it doesn't skip ascension

[drifting quest]

tangtang, mifu, fangyi and liz are wuling
rossi and presumably male sankta man are valley 4
6 units over 2 patches split 4:2 just feels odd

[full crown]

Does it return XP items for any overflow?

[ripe parrot]

oh yeah overworld stuff is a different beast

[drifting quest]

oh we get gilberta ep early

[tranquil burrow]

I didn't actually consume a weapon to test it

[full crown]

Yeah, so I never wanted to use resources to build anyoen to replace her until I was sure they were going to stick around.

[drifting quest]

via her quest

[ripe parrot]

whenever I give my opinion on things here, it's 99% assuming we're talking about like trims and stuff

[drifting quest]

overworld is nothingburger anything works

pointless to discuss it

[full crown]

Yeah, I was just saying that's why previously she was in my team, and I'm only now swapping her out now that I got Lifeng, no one else on my roster I felt was worth doing so until I got him.

[woeful plume]

nothingburger..... thingburger...... burger..... burger 😋

[torn raft]

Yea just put a turret down

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/anby-anby-demara-demara-zzz-zenless-gif-12165589462243060775

HOLD UP

ONE (+1 semi) WHIFF

@frigid vector if you didnt see

thermite is in

[frigid vector]

called it

the rest

kinda so-so I guess

wedge for the yvonne enjoyers but...

[woeful plume]

4 misses and a thermite cutter

[frigid vector]

thought they'd have something else fancy but

[drifting quest]

chiv oblivion are generic good even if not with homes right now

[frigid vector]

well at least thermite

[drifting quest]

exemplar good for dapan

[frigid vector]

and if I magically get p5 oblivion

[drifting quest]

wedge is fine

[celest carbon]

i did it next attempt

[frigid vector]

well I know what to do with my perlica

[tranquil burrow]

Thermite Cutter will show up in rotation for 2480 anyways

[drifting quest]

wnn is the only real stinker hit

[full crown]

Yeah, my first 10 pull off the beginner standard was Pog, and the free 10 pull that they force you to use in arsenal gave me Thermite, which I've been pleased with so far. Stopped me from having to do any account rerolls.

[drifting quest]

but wnn is on every banner this patch for some reason

it'll be on yvonne's too

[tranquil burrow]

Ayo nice

[celest carbon]

that took so long 😭

[tranquil burrow]

have you done triangle yet

[woeful plume]

they force you to use 10 pull in arsenal?

[manic blade]

Should get 6 6 3 essence done today one more etch

[full crown]

Well, or I just didn't choose to back out. during the mini-tutorial for it.

[drifting quest]

2 more crowns via events

[torn raft]

Is thermite worth 2480 for the potential? Kinda thinking of just getting copies thru limited sig banners

[pulsar coyote]

Hi, so is the +180 ATK from ginseng meat stew added before bonuses?

[ripe parrot]

[manic blade]

Yeah

[ripe parrot]

the road to m12 is so steep

[drifting quest]

potentials prob not

[manic blade]

It’s rlly fkn expensive

[full crown]

Yeah, I'm pretty set on Arsenal Tickets atm, but I'm still really feeling like spending 2400 on the weapons so far isn't worth it. Considered Valiant for my Lifeng to get him off Pathfinder, but ehhhh.

[tranquil burrow]

Long term I doubt it. Eventually you'll have limited ops and you'll just want their sig anyways so all these "generic" weapons are discarded and worthless in the end.

Assuming you get sigs of course...

[full crown]

Yeah, I feel like this game, between battle passes and some of the weaker 6's, is going to end up with lots of wasted weapons sitting in our inventory with no use pretty quickly.

[torn raft]

Ive just been constantly concerned about arsenal tix it's brutal

[pulsar coyote]

oh so that's why it adds so much. so is the 27% from jakub with the bonuses?

[tranquil burrow]

That it is. It's pretty excellent if you just buy orig since that pulls the cost of limited + sig waaaaay down but otherwise you're cooked.

[high finch]

they could add a pgr thingy? when you can trade wpns

[pulsar coyote]

or any1 know the full atk calc?

[high finch]

like 5 of shitty ones into 1 good one

[full crown]

I just want to at least be able to trade like, the useless BP chests or something for more Arsenal tickets so they aren't a complete waste.

[manic blade]

They all just apply where th # is in dmg formula, jakhubs is like 200 more atk in exchange for 11% CR on ginseng

But ginseng is farmable in eco farm… other isn’t

[high finch]

so,do the mats transfer?

[drifting quest]

external attack buffs make ginseng give more attack anyway

[soft tendon]

Currently have p5 wulf and full ult gain build. In this case would obj be preferred over clannibal due to the ult gain stat?

[next helm]

Do you want multiple thermite cutters

or potentials on it

[manic blade]

Actually disgusting base atk food buffs are applied before EVERYTHING

[tranquil burrow]

The exp does but the ascension mats don't, so it just stopped at 20. I didn't actually consume the weapon but if it doesn't return overflow or add that in the feature is a complete waste.

[drifting quest]

multiple IF we need multiple teams > potentials > multiple IF we DONT need multiple teams

[full crown]

Yeah, if you don't get overflow returned you'd only want to use it for like the 60-80 or 80-90 ranges

[drifting quest]

if artificed you can choose to go clannibal for the once a century buff / coping a future vanguard prints enough sp to add it in

or you just go OBJ and forget

[ripe parrot]

From a solo operator perspective, wouldn't investing into auto attack mastery be better than combo skill? Or are mulitpliers also hit with diminishing returns?

[tranquil burrow]

Which makes it worthless in reality because if you had a weapon at 80 or 90 sitting around odds are it was actually useful in the first place so you don't want to consume it just to get 10-20 levels on another.

[tranquil burrow]

I think multipliers increase linearly except the final one which seems to give a slightly bigger boost? Not sure on final

[ripe parrot]

ahhhhhhh

I forgot that lift damage is also factored in

I no longer need to do math I can just level CS

[drifting quest]

m3 also should be reducing cooldown by 1s

[ripe parrot]

oh does it?

[torn raft]

Well deserved if a player goes out of their way to do extra farming

[drifting quest]

should happen for every unit

m2 > m3 reduces cd by 1s

[ripe parrot]

TIL

[torn raft]

Give us a pure crit food

[manic blade]

it's rlly not too bad... alr feel I have an excess supply

[drifting quest]

now show your stew meetings

[torn raft]

I think a lot of people dont even have farms lol

Or know food exists

[frigid vector]

say just to confirm

[torn raft]

We just had them send us gear components

[tranquil burrow]

Sometimes it reduces by 2s too apparently, like on Fluorite (40 -> 38)

[torn raft]

[ripe parrot]

40 to 38... wow fluorite based??

[frigid vector]

breach landed on the vulnerability damage formula bucket ye?

not susceptibility

[drifting quest]

should do

[manic blade]

FINALLY

[tranquil burrow]

best design in the game so yes

[torn raft]

Grats

Did u hit the 2.7%

[manic blade]

i didn't even have to use the gel... 480 saved rn

[torn raft]

[drifting quest]

breach is like damage taken

so should go with any

[manic blade]

if thats 5-6 % yeah 😭

I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE

[drifting quest]

which is the 'vulnerability' damage section with the terrible name

[manic blade]

considering my gacha luck.

[torn raft]

Some1 told me to just upgrade something else and use gel

But i will cope that i will hit it once

[manic blade]

you should but you also save 450 gel if u hit it

[torn raft]

No way i fail 2.7% 50 more times in a row

[frigid vector]

ye fairs, was just seeing if it'd fit on vuln, amplification or susceptibility bucket

[manic blade]

100 stew 7 trims and p5 6* req for joining my clan

[drifting quest]

wewillcheckthemedal

[manic blade]

meetings every day 8-9 pm EST

[tranquil burrow]

shouldn't it be the other way around. no stew with trims to join

[manic blade]

We will check the medal, all members will be kicked

[torn raft]

I have some casuals in my friend list

2 out of 100 dont even have a clue cabin

[manic blade]

Crit fishing speed runners only

[torn raft]

[tranquil burrow]

you did not add 100 people randomly?

[torn raft]

I generally accepted high levels on day 2 for wuling stock lol

[tranquil burrow]

I just sort by last log in and unfriend anyone who hasn't logged in for 3+ days

[manic blade]

my lowest friend is lvl 53

100/100 lol

[torn raft]

It's not easy to find the players who dont even have wuling stock distribution built

They exist

[tranquil burrow]

i never checked my friend list

might be an adventure

[manic blade]

it was bad at the start I was the only one on my list that had it unlocked

[tranquil burrow]

there's a lot of my friends who don't have wuling level 1 yet

but i just have all levels added randomly

[gloomy storm]

whats avywenna arc perlica ardelia rotation for overworld stuff? just built them up and want to try them, basically quick dmg for fodder mobs

[manic blade]

max artificing just to switch to ult set at some point...

[tranquil burrow]

how the heck do you have 12 in valley but 0 in wuling

[amber vapor]

Some people like to 100% a region before continuing on to the next.

[torn raft]

Insert stop fucking around gif

[amber vapor]

Especially since Wuling is not mandatory at all for all content

You don't need gold gear till you want to build true endgame teams

[torn raft]

@drifting quest has it

[tranquil burrow]

btw I just found out umbral has trimmed medals too, and relatively easy ones, just need to clear agony mode

[manic blade]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_9TNOfWEAAvFAK.gif

[tranquil burrow]

OK Idk how easy or hard agony is but surely can't be worse than speedrunning medals

[amber vapor]

According to beta testers it's easy asf

[drifting quest]

trivially easy

if you can trim you will not have any issues with umbral

[amber vapor]

And I can imagine them nerfing it because the worst casual players don't read and can't even comprehend the concept of a "rotation"

[tranquil burrow]

I gave up on the concept of a rotation as well tbh

as long as you understand that you want to align buffs debuffs it all works out

[amber vapor]

I mean the most quaint way of describing a rotation is just cool downs

[high finch]

but they said they've added timer

[amber vapor]

10 min timer

[ripe parrot]

honestly "rotation" is a bit of a misnomer since it's more of a priority system. we don't have the SP to constantly fuel true rotations

[tranquil burrow]

I'm just too unused to rotation based gameplay so I struggle to remember what happens in what order, but if I know I just want to use ardelia's enhanced BS around Laev ult I'll remember then

[high finch]

nah on the stream they said they've added another timer which represents the rewards

[amber vapor]

I disagree since basic attacks are a part of rotations

[manic blade]

ts is so excessive lol

[amber vapor]

Yeah I don't think the timer constraints are gonna be even remotely difficult

[tranquil burrow]

if it has actual rewards then it will be easy and accessible tbf

[torn raft]

if they said it's easy then surely they made it harder

[high finch]

bro,you'r insane

[torn raft]

ayo

let me pull up my stash

[tranquil burrow]

and we've got remote pick up incoming, I've completely stopped bothering with these

[amber vapor]

There's like what 8 recycling stations total?

[torn raft]

15

[tranquil burrow]

Also btw Dijiang alone is enough to fund all exp & rare gatherable materials needed to max out a character if you get 1 new char per patch

So you don't technically need to go around gathering those either

[amber vapor]

Bro I stopped counting after the first few lmaooo

[tranquil burrow]

Maybe the skill upgrade mats? But should be close

[amber vapor]

15 * 6 = 90 per day

[torn raft]

lmao

[manic blade]

I don't even collect the wuling ones

[torn raft]

I hit 1k

[manic blade]

we prepping for 2.5

just for a gold rarity to be added

[tranquil burrow]

I mean they will

[torn raft]

im ready to build a second ship

[shadow fern]

1000 purple = 1 gold

[tranquil burrow]

Imagine Valley shop actually resets each patch

Would be so peak

I only care about the progression mats

[halcyon zenith]

Is there like a guide for order of artificing equipment? Esp for laevatain?

[manic blade]

one cycle or hot works two cycle

[ripe parrot]

check pins and go to laev section to see the numbers/pots

but tl;dr get your ult eff to a certain breakpoint and then do everything else

[manic blade]

ult to break point > heat dmg > int > b skill > strength

[torn raft]

charge set, efficiency. standard set, anything that has a good match

[junior owl]

i got better clear time using double slab and tidefall compared to hotwork + slab tho

[halcyon zenith]

How would I get ult to breakpoint? Isn't it better when fully artificing to go for lynx set?

[frigid vector]

I still find double slab hilarious if it ends up being a proper meta option

[manic blade]

slab is propaganda

[drifting quest]

from the math we've done it isnt

[junior owl]

idk it works for me so im sticking to that

[drifting quest]

it is on other units e.g. I know iana likes it for gilb and lifeng

[frigid vector]

ok blessed, at this point there's too many options

[halcyon zenith]

Bruh how is there like 10 items and already so much discussion on laevatain set

[frigid vector]

gilb works well with it because of main stat match no?

[drifting quest]

yeah

and lifeng because he has 3 main stats lmao

[torn raft]

I saw someone in teambuild tell someone 3 hotworks + 1 slab was the correct build

[junior owl]

prolly works cos p5r9 im not sure

[manic blade]

half the builds online have slab

[junior owl]

but it did give me better clear time with same rot

[frigid vector]

single slab is the best for single target ardelia rotations

[manic blade]

there's a mole in the mix

[drifting quest]

or its 3 subs and 1 main rather

[frigid vector]

since you're SP capped

[drifting quest]

0.5% for agi, 0.2% for str int will

[frigid vector]

so it's a fair recommendation

[torn raft]

thought the meme slab build was running 2 of them

not the one with hotworks

[frigid vector]

just that if you then run ake instead of ardelia, or gil, etc then rotations change

[halcyon zenith]

Do we even need anything but bossing rn? Aoe content seems kinda whack

[tranquil burrow]

trust the heat vanguard rossi agenda

[drifting quest]

akekuri has always been the baseline here so slab is doa

[frigid vector]

for now, but umbral in beta was 2/3 AoE and the last fight was 2 enemies

[junior owl]

altho slab 2 and tidefall only gets me 5s faster so whatever

[frigid vector]

think we'll have some big meta shifts when it's out unless the next 3 stages we were meant to get are bossing/pure single target

[manic blade]

still never building antal

[frigid vector]

considering we have lae and gil both right now I feel they'll want to shill aoe for a bit

we don't know how it'll rotate or update, but single target seems more yvonne shill angle

[drifting quest]

we know there's 2 variants but only of 2

[warped silo]

🗿 I got every single 5* apart from Xaihi

[drifting quest]

we dont know if a 3rd is coming

[warped silo]

kms

[halcyon zenith]

I guess I'll just hoard stock bills and artifice for now and just use the meta sets when we get endgame content

Not like it really matters rn

[frigid vector]

that's what I'm doing

mi fu/fangyi waiting room anyways

premium elec team trust

[drifting quest]

too poverty for prem elec

but avywenna elec looks fun anyway

[frigid vector]

it IS

blowing shit up is just chef's kiss

just annoying to set-up all the buffs for

[tranquil burrow]

If umbral really is as easy as everyone makes it out to be that would imply the devs may as well not care about shilling, otherwise why make it easy in the first place

[halcyon zenith]

I'm debating getting Gil for grouping but I'll probably just skip and see if we're getting anything op

[junior owl]

saw some cn names on friendlist, found out only p5s use double slab, the rest just go standard tide hotwork or hotwork slab

[frigid vector]

to be honest it'll likely be less about difficulty and more about speedrunning

[halcyon zenith]

Tho if it turns out BP + monthly can sustain 60 pull banners I may do that

[frigid vector]

like getting trims isn't even that hard as it is right now

[drifting quest]

its likely just a 1.0 thing

[frigid vector]

but if you're pushing sub minute clears

you need to optimise more

[drifting quest]

i would expect 1.1+ difficulty to slowly increase

[junior owl]

maybe double slab is a thing afterall

[drifting quest]

as is the norm

[frigid vector]

also that

very early days

[tranquil burrow]

The only reason I might get Gilberta is for 1.1/1.2 electric team but unfortunately I've no way to know if the bet will pay off

[halcyon zenith]

Yeah that's my issue

[drifting quest]

compare it to similar genre cough hoyo cough kuro and their 1000% hp gaps from 1.0 to live

[frigid vector]

p4 lower ult cost is a factor here I believe

[halcyon zenith]

Gil seems kinda nice but idk if she'll be worth throwing down the pulls

[junior owl]

could be, and the pot 2 give some int also

[halcyon zenith]

Yeah, p4 can double skill rotation without ult gain

[tranquil burrow]

I'm also of the mind all 4 of the upcoming chars are 6 stars unlike what I hear about Tangtang or Mi Fu potentially being 5 stars

[drifting quest]

thinking on it I didnt see an event tab for a login event so its only 15 'free' pulls on her banner even

[tranquil burrow]

They will do login event, it already has expiring tickets

They've nothing much to lose if they want to prevent f2ps or whatever from hoarding too many pulls

[junior owl]

double slab let me slap rhodagn in 1 ult while hotwork + slab still have leftover hp when lae ult is done

[drifting quest]

i would have expected to see it in the events tab

the laev one was iirc

[tranquil burrow]

Well, we'll find out soon anyways

[drifting quest]

and the other stuff for gilb's banner, plus events, are there

[frigid vector]

tbh there were login events

I wasn't even aware of

[tranquil burrow]

I'm assuming we have it though, would be very surprised if we don't

[frigid vector]

like the "sharing memories" web one

[drifting quest]

maybe i missed it or it wasnt listed

i certainly would not complain about free pulls

[halcyon zenith]

I hate the trend of putting events outside of the actual game

[frigid vector]

https://act.skport.com/endfield/preDownload?header=0&hg_media=skport&hg_link_campaign=notification&inviteCode=

the one I'm talking about

[tranquil burrow]

99.99% of the time the rewards are worthless anyways so for now I don't really care

[halcyon zenith]

Web, app, whatever, the worst is if it's several outside locations

[torn raft]

I do not like doing the browser events

[frigid vector]

if you go through the notices/events tab on the game

click through to it

[woeful plume]

if im gonna miss a rate up unit cuz i didnt do a browser event

so be it bro

[frigid vector]

like you can get oroberyls by following socials but from the in-game menu

then there's the worldwide release one

then there's the photo share

[torn raft]

it's a crime that there's a monthly daily on the browser

[woeful plume]

we are in 2026 and we still have this web event thing

[tranquil burrow]

I don't even have accounts for those socials, just click and claim anyways lmao

[tranquil burrow]

It's 1/3rd of a pull no?

[frigid vector]

https://act.skport.com/endfield/recordBook?header=0

[tranquil burrow]

Mandatory login

[torn raft]

there's still mats in there

[tranquil burrow]

Like, worth 10 sanity maybe

[drifting quest]

external login events are the norm

i never remember to do them

[frigid vector]

tbh

if they were integrated in some way

like hoyo stepped up their game and I can do it via the phone app

where they have a home screen integration

[torn raft]

last week is pretty good

[drifting quest]

cant you do it by skport mobile for endfield

[frigid vector]

logins can also be done via SKPORT app I think but

[torn raft]

I shant be missing this

[frigid vector]

there's no home page integration so you gotta manually open

[tranquil burrow]

[frigid vector]

unless there is one and I haven't realised it

can just tap "daily" on my home screen and it's done pretty much

whereas SKPORT I need more clicks

convenience is all

[torn raft]

anyways they're not going to get me to download an app

I refuse

[tranquil burrow]

Same

Either it's in-game or it may as well not exist for me

[drifting quest]

Its a mostly meaningless amount of rewards

If you care save the tab in browser i guess

[frigid vector]

it's very minor yeah

[junior owl]

does basic attack bonus% apply to lae batk during ult ?

[drifting quest]

Yes

[torn raft]

browser login i added it to my new tab bookmarks so it's not rly that bad

[drifting quest]

The multiplier is tied to ult rank
The damage type is basic attack

[junior owl]

mi security + hotwork glove + double slab it is then

[frigid vector]

it's kinda weird cause for battle skill I think they list it as BATK

[junior owl]

[frigid vector]

but it's still considered battle skill damage I beleive?

[junior owl]

instead of tidefall

[frigid vector]

since that's why hot work is stronk

[drifting quest]

Its skill yeah

Just translation error

[torn raft]

time to switch languages and use an autotranslator

[next helm]

Is it better to focus on one essence

or just go to 4/4/3 or something and go to someone else

[drifting quest]

focus on one, put any beneficial fodder on especially supports

e.g. i 6/6/3'd for laev but have purples with +2/+3 beneficials on supports

[tranquil burrow]

If you have a team where most units contribute dmg equally it's cheaper to distribute upgrades

[drifting quest]

that too

case by case basic

even for phys though there's generally safe clear priorities

[next helm]

Endmin essence is avoiding me

[broken shale]

i am trying to minmax and save as much as possible, is it a good idea to use originometery for sanity?

[torn raft]

probably not

[broken shale]

trying to build my phys team rn

[torn raft]

I think it's not worth losing out on potential weapon arsenal tickets

[tranquil burrow]

Most efficient use of origeometry is for purchasing weapon pulls if you're a spender, otherwise just hoard I guess

[drifting quest]

if you're whaling then you can sanity refresh

else save it for battle passes

[broken shale]

im not a whale, and how do u buy weapon pulls with it? the battle pass?

[tranquil burrow]

I think it's 3 origeometry for 2 refreshes that equate to a single run

[tranquil burrow]

1 orig = 25 arsenal tickets

[torn raft]

the sanity will just get obliterated by surtr's weapon

a tragedy

[broken shale]

thats...weird to say the least

[tranquil burrow]

A refresh should've been 80 sanity. 40 is a tragedy.

It's ~20% less efficient than buying char banner pulls

but buying weapon pulls directly is overwhelmingly more cost effective than buying char pulls to farm weapon pulls

But orig sources are extremely rare so you can't really make use of this as f2p or low spender

but for spenders this is great because limited + sig is "dirt cheap" compared to Hoyo model

[high finch]

on cbt1 there was a mode which gave weekly arsenal tickets income

but i dunno if we're getting it back

for now only sources we have is gacha pulls, t3 bp - 2400, 100 from weeklies and sometimes 20 from the ship shop

[broken shale]

i dont think they would do that

you already get some from the daily market

any more would probably be a loss of money

not sure how generous they're willing to go

[drifting quest]

it got dropped down to 100/week

it was a cbt thing for testing purposes, id guess

[tranquil burrow]

It's fairly decent over the long term.

[drifting quest]

sorry im broke i spend $15-20 a patch for monthly + bp

maybe drop a bit more if its cheap to guarantee something i want

[twilit quail]

the ww patch is absolute gas Im probably not gonna be around very much for a while

[drifting quest]

there isnt a ton more to solve for now anyway

should slow down till 1.1

[twilit quail]

nd that is still like

a month away

[tight haven]

wonder what kinda gear we'll have in 1.1

[woeful plume]

idk, refreshing twice a day is 2 origeo, in a month thats 1500 arsenal tickets

[tight haven]

or if they're not gonna add much gear

[woeful plume]

i think i can live with 1 fewer 8 pull on weapon banner every month

[drifting quest]

prob 2 new sets

id assume

1 for each new 6*

[tight haven]

i hope the new gear, if there is any, isnt too tailored to the patch 6*

[drifting quest]

3 if we're somehow on 3/patch

[tight haven]

it'd be boring if the answers to gearing were really obvious

[drifting quest]

id hope they're a little generic but with some degree of shill

stuff like hot work laev

flexible to maybe go on existing units

not guaranteed to be bis

yada yada

[humble hinge]

There's no options for middle spenders at the moments in endfield, you either whale with origometry or go homeless with monthly and battlepass

Do you think we'll get more bundles?

[high finch]

yeah it's really cool

[drifting quest]

yeah lack of good paid packs is pretty meh right now

im not going to ever spend for OP

[high finch]

i like wuwa story but i'm so tired of other aspects of the game,they're so similar and boring

i'm tired boss

fuck it

[drifting quest]

but im not really encouraged to spend less

[high finch]

gonna log in on 3.2

[tight haven]

i hope we do

the current only bundles are for arsenal tickets

and even then theyre not very good value

[drifting quest]

wuwa doesnt fit on my c drive anymore and thanks to ai companies prices in general are beyond what i care to spend just to play wuwa

[humble hinge]

None of the bundles refresh afaik, except materials. But material bundles are just straight up scam

[drifting quest]

so i havent touched that game in ages because it does not run on a non ssd

[torn raft]

were ssd affected?

[drifting quest]

yeah

not as much but all components prices went up

[tight haven]

arsenal ticket pack will refresh with gil's banner

[drifting quest]

some 100-300 for a decent size ssd

[tight haven]

as well as the 10-roll pack unique to her banner

[twilit quail]

Im running it on cloud gaming

[tight haven]

thats it though

[humble hinge]

15 dollars for 1 arsenal pull is crazy work tho

[twilit quail]

but west doesnt have that

so bad luck I guess lmao

[tight haven]

yea no its like

a scam

[torn raft]

lol cloud gaming

[tight haven]

the arsenal issue system as a whole is a scam

unnecessarily expensive and frustrating

[humble hinge]

I just decided to not make pulls rn, only buy weekly legendaries

[twilit quail]

gaming

[drifting quest]

huh apparently wuwa is on geforce

[torn raft]

is that were you run it on a company's system

[drifting quest]

surely not premium

yes

you're essentially streaming the game to yourself

[torn raft]

truly going to own nothing and be happy

[humble hinge]

Right now getting legendary signature is MORE expensive than getting legendaries themselves

Which is absurd

[drifting quest]

maybe ill consider cloud gaming

i need to do the new gambling event on ak first

[ripe parrot]

fidget spinner no hit is actually mind numbing

i hate this

[humble hinge]

I calculated origometry conversion rates, and it's just balls. 66 orig for 10 banner pulls, 80 orig for 1 weapon pull, 2 orig for 1 protocol dive

I would understand if arsenal issues dropped only 5 stars and 6 stars, but it also drops 4 star trash

Like what

[tight haven]

yep

[drifting quest]

free is free

[tight haven]

idk why people thought the arsenal issue system was meaningfully more friendly for obtaining sigs for f2p players compared to the typical weapon banner system

it really really isnt

[torn raft]

if you're going for exclusively 120 banner pulls u get around 900 arsenal tix per 10 pull

u got that going for you

[humble hinge]

F2P can only get 1 signature in lifetime for now

Monthly and BP ain't helping it

[drifting quest]

worst luck is what 8160 or so

[tight haven]

like i get the idea they were going for but the arsenal ticket conversion rate is just too low i feel

[tranquil burrow]

I never refreshed but the first refresh warns that the cost increases with each refresh, is that not the case?

[drifting quest]

in 120 pulls

[tight haven]

it's... 1/1/2/2/4/4/8/8/16/16(?)

[humble hinge]

1 orig for 25 tokens . Even less than orob

[torn raft]

worst luck for arsenal tickets is probably winning the 50/50 at 80

[drifting quest]

so you get about halfway there to guarantee with the worst possible luck

[woeful plume]

its every 2 refreshes for some reason

[tranquil burrow]

That's some crazy fucking scaling

[drifting quest]

yeah that'd be less

[tight haven]

okay i should say

[drifting quest]

techcnially worse luck is winning at 1

[tight haven]

8 and 16 are off intuition

[torn raft]

worst luck is 5020 at 80

[tight haven]

i only ever went up to 4/refresh

didnt feel like wasting my origeo past that

[real palm]

normally I'd spend orig on refreshes but stamima feels so low value, like I get next to nothing for it

[torn raft]

but that shouldnt happen

[woeful plume]

from 4 to 8 sounds mental lol

i think 1 is fine though

[tight haven]

it might be 6/refresh then 8/refresh

[twilit quail]

4 is the max

[tight haven]

oh is it

[woeful plume]

80 sanity for 1/3th of a pull for a run for sanity is same ratio to most games

[twilit quail]

you get 1 1 1 2 2

rest 4

[tight haven]

gotcha

[twilit quail]

or 11222

idr

[woeful plume]

bro

[tight haven]

its 1/1/2/2/4 yes

[woeful plume]

ghost pinging

[drifting quest]

weird

[woeful plume]

thats insane

[tight haven]

my bad, its still pretty shut value though

[woeful plume]

but yeah dont u guys think refreshing twice is fine

[tight haven]

considering 1 refresh is 40 san

it should be at least 2x

[drifting quest]

pinging like random? people too

to what purpose

[golden cedar]

what gear set do ppl mean when using double slab for laevatain?

[woeful plume]

oh boy

[tight haven]

probably some stupid ass bot scam

raid

[drifting quest]

setless

[tight haven]

whatever

[torn raft]

I started thinking refreshing = losing arsenal tickets

[humble hinge]

2 orig for 35k credits

[drifting quest]

the bots usually pose a scam

[torn raft]

so it's worse to me now

[drifting quest]

this is just pinging 2 people with seemingly no connection

[tight haven]

i do 1/1 everyday

[woeful plume]

its actually that low?

[tranquil burrow]

Funnily enough that's the best luck if you're a spender. It all depends on f2p vs spender.

[humble hinge]

Yes

[woeful plume]

ig i could stop refreshing now

[humble hinge]

And your daily conversions are limited

[drifting quest]

dont spenders want to do the ~120 for potentials

[humble hinge]

Can't get more than 400 sanity

[tight haven]

yeah

its pretty ass

[torn raft]

i dunno keep coping for an arsenal buff

[woeful plume]

i only did it to rush 6-6-3 on laeva essence ngl

[whole crystal]

will do

[tight haven]

if they do an arsenal buff it will likely be to income only

[whole crystal]

👍

[torn raft]

just anything

[humble hinge]

Gacha devs trying to not create the most predatory monetization ever: impossible

[tight haven]

which would be fine

[tranquil burrow]

I mean spenders as in limited + sig wanters, you will have to spend if you want that accounting for luck. You get very close to having that with just BP though, but still.

[tight haven]

having increased income would be great

[drifting quest]

i think we'll just get some more f2p income in future

[tranquil burrow]

I'm considering 1 limited + their sig per patch here. 2+ obviously the cost shoots dramatically if you go for that every single patch.

[tight haven]

im hoping we do

[drifting quest]

since right now its 1-3 years for f2p no pulling to guarantee a weapon

[tight haven]

god the arsenal issue sucks

[drifting quest]

which is a joke

[tight haven]

just the most frustrating gacha ive pulled on in a while

[woeful plume]

people sometimes forget that gacha games exist to get our money

nothing is in good faith bro

[real palm]

I feel like Alluvium is the only thing to spend stam on since that's the only way to get them, and just everything else from shops/events and live with the fact resources are just super scarce

[tight haven]

4% rate for a 1/4

[drifting quest]

alluvium is the go to sanity spend right now

[woeful plume]

you know its cooked when pulling on a banner is determined by if the other weapons u can lose 1/4 is good

[tranquil burrow]

They've done the math better than us. BP havers can already almost guarantee 1 limited + their sig per patch, or rather, they get the income equivalent to that over the long term. They obviously don't want F2Ps to get both limited + sig, and the bigger spenders will go for dupes + multiple 2 characters per patch.

[tight haven]

yeah laevs banner is a scsm

3/4 to get dogshit

except for valiant i guess

[drifting quest]

the gilb one looks pretty good

[tight haven]

what is it

[torn raft]

I have p4 of that shit heal sword

[tight haven]

thermite?

[torn raft]

[drifting quest]

thermite chiv wedge exemplar

one more im forgetting that was okay

[tight haven]

holy

[drifting quest]

wnn (on every banner this patch)

[tight haven]

thermite being there is all i need

[twilit quail]

chiv is usable at least

[drifting quest]

oblivion

[red mulch]

If i deal Knock Down after Endmin does the Combo Skill, i can shatter Originium and deal more damage?

[twilit quail]

oblivion is such an evil weapon

[drifting quest]

sig
thermite chiv wedge exemplar oblivion wnn

[torn raft]

Who else uses chiv i thought that was the cope weap for gil

[tight haven]

no stanza is the cope weap

for gil

its not even cope

its fine

[drifting quest]

the only truly bad hit is wnn
wedge oblivion exemplar damage weapons with potentially no clear user or no user for people not playing phys
thermite god tier
chiv decent hit

actually wnn wedge might be on every banner this patch

[humble hinge]

Oblivion is good option for perlica that deals damage

[drifting quest]

maybe oblivion too, idr if it was on laev's

[humble hinge]

She can be on par with avy

[drifting quest]

off rate sword/arts unit/pistol on all 3 banners

or maybe it was chiv

i dont have the game open t ocheck

[torn raft]

All base operator gonna be on non sigs cause of natural p5 on these off weapons

Does last rite still want sig over a p5 sundered?

[tranquil burrow]

Each new one is "friendlier" than the last, probably due to market saturation?

Also, I know Laev weapon banner is there for 3 char banners, but the pity doesn't reset for these 3 banners right?

[amber vapor]

100 arsenal tickets a week is so friendly amirite

[torn raft]

The devs cant let the minnows die

[tranquil burrow]

Sigh, I have to keep linking the same damn message over and over.

[humble hinge]

It should work backwards, each next system being friendlier to mid-spenders and low-spenders

[torn raft]

Else the whales dies too

[humble hinge]

But Chinese... Chinese never change

[tight haven]

yk what would be heat

like 1000 coolant gel for $15

[ripe parrot]

i unironically think fidget spinner is worse than marble for no hit solo runs if you don't have aoe

[tight haven]

id cop that

[amber vapor]

Heat affliction is

[drifting quest]

$15 for 2 taps

[tight haven]

i am losing my fucking mind

[humble hinge]

That's like two etches

[tight haven]

i hate etching

[drifting quest]

450 x 2

[tight haven]

idgaf.

[tranquil burrow]

Refer to this for some number crunching @amber vapor

[drifting quest]

its probably cheaper still

[torn raft]

Time to burn your daily sanity to get no return

I love essence etching

[drifting quest]

30 runs for 2 taps, same cost of stamina refreshing is gonna be huge

[tranquil burrow]

Essence system is 1 trillion times better than Hoyo systems.

[twilit quail]

oh yeah I saw 15 enhanced skill

in 1 lae ult timeline today

crazy stuff

[tranquil burrow]

Probably 10 trillions times better.

[tranquil burrow]

how

[humble hinge]

Hoyo is a bad example

[tranquil burrow]

It's mainstream

[humble hinge]

Pretty low bar to beat

Isn't it?

[torn raft]

Just cause something else is more trash doesnt mean we need to deal with trash

[amber vapor]

Yeah there will obviously be a surplus of generic 6* weps as the life cycle of the game continues, which is exactly what they're hedging on.

[torn raft]

[tranquil burrow]

Anyways, it's a really good system no matter how you look at it. A couple of weeks and you have your char perfectly maxed out in every way.

[drifting quest]

how tf

p5 obviously but even then

idk how you fit 15 of them in the what 25s

[tranquil burrow]

Oh, on fodders

[humble hinge]

You've heard the sound? Gamedesigner shot himself

[torn raft]

Just add 1 more essence drop

[tranquil burrow]

they must've kept killing fodder mobs to extend ult duration

[torn raft]

That's it

[tranquil burrow]

Er, but I think it's capped to 22s?

[twilit quail]

no it's single target

with no extension

[drifting quest]

????

[tranquil burrow]

so how you do you fit 11 in?

[drifting quest]

one skill is longer animation than 1s though

[tranquil burrow]

I can see maybe 4 with some shenanigans

[drifting quest]

how do you get 15 in 15s

[twilit quail]

it's a stew meeting setup

[tranquil burrow]

The skill pauses the ult timer

[twilit quail]

the timer is paused

[tight haven]

dude if endfield had an artifact system with randomized stats

id quit

[twilit quail]

no stew meeting is 7 in one ult max

[tranquil burrow]

Skill, combo, dodge all pause ult timer. Btw, food buff timers are paused too.

[tight haven]

every time its the most frustrating thing to work with

for me

[halcyon zenith]

this pity stays across banners right?
and if so do we have infos on whether bp + monthly can sustain the 50 pulls needed to pull on each banner for the free stuff?

[twilit quail]

【什么叫15秒大招能打【7次】强化战技！？ - 明日方舟：终末地】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1rAFaz6Ekf/

this is 7

[tranquil burrow]

It's not paused if you swap off though

[humble hinge]

At least in genshin you can enter abyss 9 times a day, end field has only 3 times a day

[tight haven]

yes

[tranquil burrow]

Shuo just learned timers get paused and he died. We're never seeing him again.

[twilit quail]

the fucked up thing is that

7 eskill

as shown here

is actually pretty practical

[ripe parrot]

why does fidget spinner spawn so many mobs in the second phase

i love lack of aoe

[tranquil burrow]

If you have two turns of the mob phase it's over, just reset

[ripe parrot]

i'm doing a solo run

[tranquil burrow]

Assuming you're going for trim

Oh

[ripe parrot]

solo no hit

[chilly bolt]

question regarding xaihi ult, it says the dmg amp scales with the int stat, so at M3 she would have max amp at 400 int is that correct?

[halcyon zenith]

yes to the latter as well? cuz then id have to do 22 more pulls before gil shows up

[drifting quest]

how do we get from 7 to 15

[tranquil burrow]

Idk my question is where is the SP coming from

[twilit quail]

yooooooooo I hit the tap for ange essence

[twilit quail]

bug abuse

is how

but yeah the 7

[tranquil burrow]

Lemme look at vid cuz 7 is very insane to me as well

[twilit quail]

actually looks really good

[drifting quest]

EmotiAngel

[twilit quail]

it's like

actually pretty practical

which is insane to think about

oh holy shit I hit a tap to 6 on ange essence

i just hit two taps to 6 in a row

holy

[tranquil burrow]

Oh this setup heavily depends on boss stagger nodes

[twilit quail]

yeah you can see

there's 4 ake combo

[tranquil burrow]

but I guess this is what it looks like high investment in supports too lol

inb4 has M3d Akekuri ult kek

[twilit quail]

we are also looking at

[tight haven]

also yes

[twilit quail]

240% charge wulf

LMAO

[lime bear]

is Gilb banner out yet

[tranquil burrow]

12 hours

I think?

[lime bear]

ult bot moment

[tight haven]

oh sorry the latter as to whether the bp and monthly can sustain 60 pulls/banner

i am unsure about that

[tranquil burrow]

20 hours

[tight haven]

idt anyone can say until we have umbral monument

[halcyon zenith]

yeah thats the main question

[lime bear]

wtf

[halcyon zenith]

ait

[drifting quest]

gilb should be out sooner

[twilit quail]

but yeah those guys are pretty crazy for sure

[drifting quest]

unless it got pushed back its like 5h for na/eu, less for asia

[tranquil burrow]

It says 20 hours until Laev banner ends for me

[twilit quail]

full charge artificed on wulf with obj

[tranquil burrow]

NA/EU

Where did bro get the aritificing mats for anyways

It takes like 200 to fully artifice one set

[drifting quest]

it did

gg

7h 47m for asia
20h 47m for na/eu

[twilit quail]

Im considering making it

[tranquil burrow]

Damn Asia getting it that early

[twilit quail]

tbh

[tranquil burrow]

Don't

[tight haven]

wdym it takes 30

just land every tap

[twilit quail]

it's just charge rate pieces

[tranquil burrow]

It's just a teaser for what it will look like with Rossi heat vanguard trust me

[twilit quail]

easy enough to find use for them elsewhere

[tranquil burrow]

I'm from the future

Man but with limited vanguard supports Laev is really going to pop off in the future

Assuming they have much better SP recovery

[ripe parrot]

the 4 spears during add phase fidget spinner is so evil

[twilit quail]

I mean same for physical

[ripe parrot]

i might save ult just to iframe

[twilit quail]

when it gets actual dps

and not mechanicless stat monkey(endmin)

[tranquil burrow]

I mean, Rossi again

[twilit quail]

or numberless 5*(da pan)

[tranquil burrow]

I feel like she's either heat vanguard or phys dps for some reason

Gilberta was heat support in early CBTs iirc

[twilit quail]

can you imagine how cracked fire would be

if gilb stayed fire

[tranquil burrow]

They realized early on people would see 2 back to back banners for a team and that'd be doompost central

which is fair I guess, esp for launch

[twilit quail]

yvonne incident

[tight haven]

yvonne releases "worst dpr in endfield history", asked to rescind banner slot to rossi

[tranquil burrow]

Is her kit itself bad or is she just lacking suitable supports?

[twilit quail]

it's a bit of both