theorycrafting

[next helm]

I don't even know if I can beat the lvl 90 bosses

[ripe parrot]

you can

[weak meteor]

youre telling me you dotn have that bike on display

or the drilla

[bold rose]

how are yall emptying Wuling depot I'm on double batteries + yazhen and still behind

[next helm]

No P5 wulf either

[daring dove]

Is it going to be standard for Arknights to release new operators on a Friday going forward?

[tranquil burrow]

I halved my clear times by just learning the combat and practicing a little, game has extremely high skill expression

[next helm]

I have 2 left hands and I am right handed

[tranquil burrow]

I think it'll be one new banner every 3 weeks, same as usual

[ripe parrot]

2x batt + yazhen should be enough to be like stable

[daring dove]

I hope it's not like Genshin where they release them right in the middle of a bloody work week.

[tranquil burrow]

Makes no difference though

[bold rose]

genshin dropped like kendrick lamar

[next helm]

Every since they copied zzz its been less fun yeah

[daring dove]

It does if you have a Monday to Friday job like most adults.

[tranquil burrow]

ZZZ was so peak in 1.x

[hidden lantern]

I figured out how to start massacring field enemies with my Lae while stuck with my phys team.

I just bring lvl40 Ember, lvl11 Akekuri (she was lvl1 to start with though), lvl29 Wulfguard

They just do the heat infliction or distraction. Deaths don't happen unless boss type enemies.

That field level reduction they did helped me

[broken locust]

Every time I see a Mihoyo avi on here I feel I am on enemy territory (joking)

[tranquil burrow]

I do have a job and I can simply grab the character on Friday, it's not going to vanish 2 days later

[ripe parrot]

i've learned a lot about the mihoyo IP by being here

previously i knew like nothing about those games

[broken locust]

I sadly keep my enemies closer.

[tranquil burrow]

Their animations in ZZZ are peak

[next helm]

Is this the real endmin

[tranquil burrow]

especially Jane Doe walk animation

[broken locust]

Undeniable.

[ripe parrot]

i'd prefer at least an arm's length away, thank you

i've come to realize that a lot of you guys are gooners

[broken locust]

If I play another game with the "artifact" system, I might aswell contract oripathy and transmutate into a fungi.

[ripe parrot]

and i respect that, but also do not come close to me

[drifting quest]

i do not respect that

[daring dove]

It's nice to be able to experience a new character like everyone else when they release the same day. Friday is the perfect day to release them.

[drifting quest]

this is a holy temple of math and agendaposting

[next helm]

Discrimination to goonees

[daring dove]

Then you get the weekend to try them out a bit

[next helm]

[weak meteor]

gooners have money so you should keep them close

[ripe parrot]

but i'm not their waifu it's not like they're going to spend it on me

[weak meteor]

you keep them close to rob them

[broken locust]

I was looking at my screenshots of the first beta. Do you guys believe we will reach such levels at any point during the game life? This image is not edited:

[next helm]

15k atk

[ripe parrot]

holy 15k attack stat

[weak meteor]

arclight mustve been big and round with all that food

[tranquil burrow]

I doubt it. I think we're just gonna stick around 5-7k atk and just get more complicated kits over time with bigger multipliers, same as usual

[broken locust]

No food

[near abyss]

last I checked they are releasing Saturday at 12pm server time

[tranquil burrow]

Like year 3 char battle skills competing with Laev ult multipliers

[near abyss]

at least gilberta is

[broken locust]

It was team buffs and her previous passive plus the gear that has been removed from the game

[weak meteor]

damn

[dry kindle]

CBT 1 was funny

Were not getting it anytime soon

Aside for doing it for the meme

[broken locust]

There was a set that made operators that use any of their skills stack %Max STATS

[daring dove]

Yeah Friday or Saturday release is perfect, ideally they keep that release time for future characters.

[broken locust]

It was pretty wild

It was this set

[near abyss]

well what confused me is they are releasing the story a day earlier

[near abyss]

than the banner

I mean it's fine but the calendar had it different

[drifting quest]

banners are 17d long so yvonne's will drop on like a monday

[near abyss]

we don't know, her banner could be 1 day they didn't announce 1.1 update yet

[drifting quest]

1.1 should be around March 12th or a Thursday, same as release day

[near abyss]

idk there are no rules

they can do whatever

[drifting quest]

if we drop down to 2 banners then 21/21 days each is likely

[tranquil burrow]

3 banners after launch would be crazy

I don't want that

[near abyss]

for next 2 patches, I think we have 3 per

[drifting quest]

there's 6 units in the next patch

[near abyss]

yeah

[drifting quest]

next 2

sorry

typo

[tranquil burrow]

Well that's a yikes from me

[sterile patrol]

next patch

[drifting quest]

we dont know rarities though

[near abyss]

but doesn't mean all of them are 6*

[drifting quest]

clueless

6 banner patch

[sterile patrol]

it was confirmed next 2 patches?

[drifting quest]

drip marketing should be like next week, if they match the cadence of other gacha

[near abyss]

yeah

[sterile patrol]

holymoly

[near abyss]

tangtang was confirmed after yvonne 100%

[drifting quest]

technically not explicitly but they were talking about content updates of the next 2 patches and key characters we would meet, before showing the teaser

all but confirmed basically

[near abyss]

maybe not after, but 1.1 for sure

[ripe parrot]

We could also have welfare 5/6 star operators from whatever the next big event is

[drifting quest]

1.1 and 1.2 would be

[ripe parrot]

by way of Arknights

[sterile patrol]

gotcha

[next helm]

When are we creating fake meat

[ripe parrot]

Wuling: Tofu update

[next helm]

When we go to vegan land?

[weak meteor]

different devs though so idk if theyll be 6 stars

[drifting quest]

id expect its 2 6, 1 5* per patch

[weak meteor]

but welfare 5 stars probably will be true

[tranquil burrow]

I was wondering how they'd handle automated meat processing given the implications

[ripe parrot]

...what?

[drifting quest]

all 3 being banners

[near abyss]

they do have vegan dishes

[ripe parrot]

different devs?

[drifting quest]

as in 5* added to off rate pool

maybe we get a free copy from event, would be nice

[tranquil burrow]

Artificial meat is def the way to go if they want to free us from meat farm

[ripe parrot]

hypergryph is still the same dev no?

[weak meteor]

yea i heard its different devs but like

[next helm]

Where are my daily recruitment bags

[near abyss]

I wouldn't bet on it

[drifting quest]

endfield is gryphline

[weak meteor]

its the same company but different team

[drifting quest]

different studio same company

[near abyss]

but I think they'd drop like a squad of 4* at a time

[weak meteor]

^

[dry kindle]

Or 3 6*

[ripe parrot]

oh okay

[amber vapor]

Lowlight wasn't a project lead in AK?

[ripe parrot]

I don't expect them to copy arknights' welfare system 1:1 but we can dream

[near abyss]

he is

[weak meteor]

he is

[tranquil burrow]

Each character takes considerable effort to create so why make 5 star welfare when they can make them 6 star and make bank. I don't think 5 stars will be common.

[amber vapor]

And he is for AKE as well no?

[daring dove]

I really hope the next bunch of characters aren't all focused around fixing Yvonne & bringing her upto Laevatains level. Ideally I'd like the next 3 characters to focus on buffing Fire / Ice / Electric teams. I feel like Phy has enough options right now it can go a cycle without a few more. Especially if we get another Edmin potential?

[near abyss]

not really feasible since less characters

[drifting quest]

1 copy for free, pots behind banners, pretty standard practice

[near abyss]

you may be able to get 1 6* per patch tho

[tranquil burrow]

All I have is Rossi heat vanguard agenda

[dry kindle]

The 5* tangtang:

[drifting quest]

3 6* per patch is too many units, it's counterproductive to profits

[near abyss]

she does have 5* energy

[next helm]

AK has been pretty generous over the years

[near abyss]

I don't think you understand how profit works

[dry kindle]

If tangtang is a 6* that's gonna be goofy

[next helm]

I hope they aren't gonna break that trust immediately

[amber vapor]

Well given the way they run the limited banners (where you can pull for any of the version limited 6*s in any of the limited banners, even if not rate up) I wouldn't be surprised if they do it that way

[tranquil burrow]

They will probably do 2 6 stars per patch, I don't think it's sustainable. Even if they can design characters fast enough, kits can't be well designed at that speed, surely? Like they probably have some concepts in mind for year 1 & 2 chars but they'll run out too fast with 3 per patch.

[ripe parrot]

My guess is Rossi 6, TangTang 5, Leek 6, Mi Fu (???)

[sterile patrol]

300 sp ultimate

[drifting quest]

average spending per patch has a hard cap, due to most players not being whales
the more premium content you shove into a patch the less each new piece of content makes as the number of people willing to spend decreases

[ripe parrot]

maybe Mi Fu also 5?

[next helm]

Mi Fu kinda screams 5 star to me

[dry kindle]

Probably 6

[midnight stirrup]

I never played Arknights, but I have so much faith in this dev cause I only see them good things.

[amber vapor]

Mifu seems like a 5 star

[weak meteor]

i think 2 6* and 2 5* sounds fair

[midnight stirrup]

Its so refreshing compared to Hoyo

[amber vapor]

Let's hope they don't forget about 4* ops too

I hate when they are a release only thing

[tranquil burrow]

The patch notes yesterday left a very good impression for me personally. The QoL was oddly specific and very targeted to make me feel good lol.

Idc about the selector.

[ripe parrot]

well.. we live in a post W-Alter world so let's not give them too much credit

[weak meteor]

they already forgot new 3*s in ak so idk about tha tone

[drifting quest]

the devs are (i think confirmed) to be working on 2.0
they have preplanned content drops ahead of time

as release schedule catches up with dev time we'll likely see less 5* releases

the same way genshin, hsr, zzz and wuwa all had more 4* releases early on and then stopped most of them

[frozen tide]

Im chill with 5 star being the floor for viable main dps

Esp if endmin stays viable

[amber vapor]

Endmin is a 6* tho

[weak meteor]

theres gonna be a character in the future called M and will have the exact same kit

[near abyss]

or... people spend more who want a certain thing, and people who have a limit still spend the limit, if people have more options I'm not sure why they would spend less if they want something? and whales will whale

[amber vapor]

Albeit he plays more like a 5* imo

[near abyss]

whales make up the profit anyway

[frozen tide]

Yeah but like hes as f2p as it gets

[daring dove]

They likely will do three 6 stars per patch to begin with, but then start filling the banner lineup with re-runs once we get more options. Keep in mind we need a pool of limited 6 star characters first.

[tranquil burrow]

Trust the most overpowered dupes in game for Endmin agenda

[dry kindle]

Post tragodia world

[amber vapor]

First two pots didn't seem that promising to me tbh

[ripe parrot]

AK was like insanely F2P-friendly until limited banners happened way too often

[shadow fern]

do limited banner characters go into the standard banner after a time in this game?

[dry kindle]

No

[drifting quest]

they're not spending less they're simply not spending more
it costs money to produce more content
if you make the same income with 2 vs 3 banners then you simply profit less with 3 banners

[frozen tide]

W altar reconvener released with even less clothes

Trust

[dry kindle]

Well not after their first banner at least

Fuck knows about later

[midnight stirrup]

No seriously the qol looks insane. They thought of things I didnt even realise I got annoyed by in this game.

[weak meteor]

yeah but now its like 2 banners between each limited so its kinda spread out evenly

[drifting quest]

4 lim/year + collabs

bedge

[near abyss]

yeah but I really doubt it costs $2 million a month to make all that content

[ripe parrot]

I do appreciate a ton how the devs actually took player advice seriously

[weak meteor]

collabs take the slot of a normal banner

[ripe parrot]

so i'm still riding the hypergryph good will train

[weak meteor]

actually

some do

[drifting quest]

thankfully the next 6mo has some pretty mediocre standards so its safe to save

[midnight stirrup]

Bro this game is super expensive to make

[daring dove]

Guys re-runs will start filling up the banners each patch as the game progresses... We aren't getting 3 new 6* characters every patch once we get characters we need to start re-running. Use your head a little.

[drifting quest]

?
did you read a thing i said

[midnight stirrup]

Genshin pays a shitload to develop the game

Arknights looks a lot more expensive

[near abyss]

yeah but they are profitable

and chinese 996

[drifting quest]

ak 4th anime season

[midnight stirrup]

Ofc

[drifting quest]

surely

[midnight stirrup]

But im just saying they spend a lot

On the game

[near abyss]

yeah

[drifting quest]

county hillock animated

[near abyss]

but like

[midnight stirrup]

Arknights is such an impressive game for a gacha

[near abyss]

the biggest cost is the initial development

[midnight stirrup]

Visually and optimization wise

[near abyss]

now that they have all that layed out

[midnight stirrup]

Like theres singleplayer games who dont run this well

Its a common complaint sp games are more laggy and laggy

[near abyss]

adding more characters doesn't cost as much

[outer ermine]

from nightmare to literal hell

[midnight stirrup]

Yea true

[outer ermine]

cant wait

[weak meteor]

wuwa unreal jet engine

[near abyss]

for example, why is genshin so freaking stingy with skins? it's like they are radioactive and cost a billion dollars to make one

[tranquil burrow]

Not even close to how much profit it makes. Problem is that infinite money does not equate infinite content. Like you can't buy 10x the devs and expect 10x the output. These companies have optimized management to the tiniest details, pretty sure 3 week content cycle is about the max anyone can sustain regardless.

[midnight stirrup]

But im talking more in the sense of the complete game visuals

[near abyss]

when the community mods a skin in a week for free or patreon

[near abyss]

yeah but I meant more maintanance, like I still think long term a bigger roster means more profit

[daring dove]

Genshin is 6 years old, built for phones that where 10% as fast as they are today. Don't get me wrong the Genshin PC client is in a sad state, but we do have to remember its a much older game developed for a completely different set of hardware.

[midnight stirrup]

Im not argueing that. But it was mentioned they dont even spend 2 mil on the game. Which I disagreed with

It for sure makes more

[near abyss]

2 mil a month for all the patch content

[midnight stirrup]

Oh no im not talking about Genshin. Genshin is rly well optimized which is why I like playing it. But WuWa and multiple sp games stutter and have fps issues.

[near abyss]

is what I said

not entire game

entire game was probably 50+ mil

[amber vapor]

Sensortower, though not that reliable, did publish the first 10 days of predicted mobile sales

[midnight stirrup]

I mean... I still think they spend so much for patches ngl

2m ish

Depends on the content tho

[tranquil burrow]

Chinese game dev salaries are rather low so the cost to develop is probably lower than what most people expect, esp since they charge players by American standards

[drifting quest]

hg pays pretty well, supposedly

[midnight stirrup]

How can your salary be low if your game makes this much

[daring dove]

Credit where credit is due though whoever developed the netcode for this game is a wizard runs like a dream on my RTX 5090 & keeps my power usage to around RTX 5080 levels.

[midnight stirrup]

Bro even on PS5. Incredibly smooth.

I was so fucking impressed by Wuling

[near abyss]

yeah idk tbh, I am no dev, genshin claims it costs them 200 mil a year for the patches but I kinda doubt that unless they are also including yachts and parties for that

cause it cost them 100 mil to make the game

[midnight stirrup]

Cause Wuling looks so taxing on the game

[tranquil burrow]

Do you think gacha game companies distribute those tens of millions of profits every month to their workers? Does any company do that? Try looking up game dev salaries. The industry already pays peanuts, even in high income countries, and CN is even worse.

[frozen tide]

China magic

[near abyss]

apparently they did a lot of tradeoffs, for example there is no day/night cycle, I didn't even realize until someone pointed that out

[midnight stirrup]

No im saying they got a very well paying job if your game makes that much.

[amber vapor]

Yeah according to sensortower for mobile only prediction from release day till end of Jan the game made a total of $29.5mil. Not bad for 10 days after release.

[ripe parrot]

um, i personally know some game devs for big name game companies and they make nothing relatively to how much profit they generate for the company

game devs are exploited far and wide

[near abyss]

no, not the artists

[tardy comet]

Aerthec gloves isn't better at Perlica because of the 34 Arts Intensity vs the Pulser Gloves?

[amber vapor]

This.

Let's not even begin to mention the toxic work culture from crunch hours and so on

It's all well documented

[near abyss]

I used galaxy store and in-game store so my $20 isn't there

[frozen tide]

Depends on how much dmg ur perli does

If ur perli is well built her ult will do dec dmg

[drifting quest]

havent done the math but im guessing 3p pulser already hits 100 intensity

[tardy comet]

for Perlica Support, with Last Rite, Xaihi, Snowshine and Perlica

[drifting quest]

probably a ways over it

arts intensity has true diminishing returns

so you gain more from dmg% 4th

[midnight stirrup]

Cooked

[tranquil burrow]

Let's say you're a Google L5 engineer making $300k a year. That's crazy money, but Google makes multiple million dollars ROI per developer they hire. No company distributes its profits to its workers.

[tardy comet]

the max scaling its 100? it hits 103

[drifting quest]

there might be a better 4th flex spot

[frozen tide]

Past 100 arts inten is still only 33.33.... percent decrease per arts intensity for electrification

[tranquil burrow]

CN game dev salaries are a fraction of that too

[drifting quest]

beyond 100 the stat gives less per point

[daring dove]

I have to use frame-gen 2x to reach this performance since the game is capped at 120 FPS otherwise. But I can techincally play with 240 FPS at doable 4k resolution.

[drifting quest]

you still get value for beyond 100 its just reduced

especially once you artifice perlica's gear you'll be way over the 100

[dry kindle]

Just uncap fps

And don't get banned

[tranquil burrow]

How?

[midnight stirrup]

Can we even perceive 240fps

[dry kindle]

Its that simple

[dry kindle]

Yes

[tranquil burrow]

Yes, try going from 120 to 240, you'll notice immediately

[midnight stirrup]

I thought we could do like 120 max

[drifting quest]

encouraging tos breaking

[frozen tide]

Thats a myth

[midnight stirrup]

Like with iur eyes

Idk

[drifting quest]

not my theorycrafting

[dry kindle]

The max is infinite

[frozen tide]

We don't see the world in framerates

[dry kindle]

Zzz

[tranquil burrow]

It's nothing crazy like going from 30 to 120 but it's noticeable

[daring dove]

You perceive the smoothness difference not the actual frame-by-frame data.

[midnight stirrup]

I see

[vivid wasp]

so for Artificing is it better to just go all in on main stats like Intellect or should I spread out the stats a bit more evenly

[frozen tide]

120 is chill for a cinematic game imo

[pine hill]

Hi guys, i would need opinion on a comparaison between 2 weapons. I plan to play Ember as the controlled operator and go full physical dps team (yes i know this is not ideal but i just want to) while this is not ideal i would like to make as least cope as it can be. I currently only have Exemplar and don't have Sundered Prince, would it be aight to max Exemplar or should i really wait for Sundered prince ?
Exemplar at base has:
17 main attribute 📉
5% ATK 📈
basically perma 20% physical dmg dealth ❔
Sundered Prince at base has:
20 strenght 📈
2.5% crit 📉
permanent 20% ATK and +12% stagger on final basic atk hit

Crit is kind of a wasted stat while exemplar has ATK% on the second line which can go to 9/9 upgrade which is 39%
in total with full max essence witout potential on either sundered prince or exemplar we get something like
Exemplar 39% atk 32% Phy dmg dealt 132 main attribute
Sundered prince 19.5% Crit 32% Atk 156 strength (19% stagger bonus on last hit of basics)

Should i wait for Sundered Prince or is investing on Exemplar okay, is the difference that big or not ?
(sorry for the essay i m kinda stuck on this question)

[ripe parrot]

you don't get much "value" going from like 144 to like 240 honestly

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah but game runs so well I know I could easily get double the fps so why not have them uncap it if possible

[tardy comet]

so in this case i must run Pulse Gloves?

[valid zealot]

The game kinda crazy ngl.

[frozen tide]

True

[drifting quest]

must? no

[midnight stirrup]

Im sayingggg

[drifting quest]

but without spending too much time sheeting it should be a safe 4th

[valid zealot]

Very high graphic & 120 fps it still runs smooth

[ripe parrot]

Isn't Sundered Prince actually double ATK when you are controlling that operator

[midnight stirrup]

Ill glaze tf out of the arknights visuals and optimization

Havent played a game this smooth in a while

[daring dove]

I actually like the 120 FPS cap generally keeps my RTX 5090 from pulling 450-500w.

[ripe parrot]

Examplar is good if you want to transition to another unit (probably Da Pan) and have them inherit the weapon

[pine hill]

that's accounted, it's 10% base and 16% at 4/9 so 32% atk maxed and 20% non maxed

[tranquil burrow]

Oh wow actual TC question, I thought it was all general 2 or being elitist pricks

[valid zealot]

But fans screaming & 99 C cpu tempt.

Like

[tardy comet]

i will have only one team, so, the plat its to lvl 90 rank 9 Perlica. I use Xaihi too, so i'm in doubts about their weapons

[dry kindle]

Smhsmhsmhsmhsmh

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym

Im slow

[pine hill]

the real question is that you actually get lots of raw ATK on exemplar thx to second line and Crit is kind of bad on sundered prince, you get less main stat on exemplar though but both have an equal amount of phy dmg dealth or atk on the third stat

[valid zealot]

Fans, the spinning thingy that boost airflow.

[ripe parrot]

If you also factor in main att vs str you're losing out on another 6% attack - yeah as you just said

[valid zealot]

Surely you know him.

[ripe parrot]

I'd go Exemplar because it's easier to fit into other units if you want to transition

[pine hill]

okay got it

[midnight stirrup]

Oh lmao

[pine hill]

will do that then thx ^^

[midnight stirrup]

Idk my ps5 is chillin

[valid zealot]

Smh

[midnight stirrup]

Genuinely 0 issues

Ps5 my best purchase in a long time icl

Such a good console

[ripe parrot]

my PS5 is a glorified tetris console

[midnight stirrup]

What works works

Im so hyped for resident evil 9 this month

[valid zealot]

No

[tardy comet]

at the total, she has 159 arts intensity

its worth to use the arts intensity gloves?

[drifting quest]

Probably not but again I haven't done any sheeting to confirm

[daring dove]

I really want that last ATK% boost but it's so expensive.... Guess all my spare Sanity will be going towards that for the foreseeable.

[daring spoke]

aethertech or swordmancer for endmin in full phys team?

[daring dove]

An extra 6% base ATK is so strong.

[tranquil burrow]

Just get lucky

[tardy comet]

With Xaihi and Perlica (Last Rite + Snowshine) I must equip:

Xaihi: Detonation Unit
Perlica: Stanza of Memorials

or

Xaihi: Chilvaric Virtues
Perlica: Detonation Unit

[whole crystal]

I have heard of them before

[summer flicker]

use those on other piece, and just gel for guarantee

[whole crystal]

wowies

[daring dove]

Yeah I might start boosting edmins weapon since I have perfect essence for that. I wanted to do Ardelia's but it still hasn't dropped after 20 attemtps.

[summer flicker]

[daring dove]

An to be honest Ardelia's isn't so important anyway.

[torn raft]

Wait is that the efficient strat

[summer flicker]

i am building thermite, stanza, and others support weapon that r usable among alot of unit

[torn raft]

[summer flicker]

the you not want to gamble strat and sunk everything into nothingness

[torn raft]

Muh 2.7% cope

[summer flicker]

i mean, its like, whatever either way, you still need to lose 42 times till a guarnatee gel, but building other weapon prolly better

[torn raft]

I dunno if there's an actual mathematical way to efficiently do it i like to farm for better bases anyways

[summer flicker]

rather than 5->6

on one weapon

[torn raft]

Im thinking i go for bottom row +3 while doing the 2.7% upgrade

[midnight stirrup]

Wdymmm

[summer flicker]

ye,im doing that on support weapon essence (thermite)

[frozen tide]

Perlica cant use deto unit in cryo comp

[summer flicker]

and now farming stanza essence

[frozen tide]

Use deto on xai and stan on per

[torn raft]

I think ill go with that on 2nd weapon

[frozen tide]

Deto goated for xai anyw

[summer flicker]

deto for xai

[torn raft]

At that point i should have good bases when i hit the +5 point

[lavish jay]

i thought upgrading essences were easy till i started laevs one.. cause i got thermite cutter essence first and decided i should level up flow cause thats a buffing one.. 1 click upgrade, 1 click upgrade, 1 click upgrade and it was maxed.. 🤣

[valid zealot]

no offtopic

[daring dove]

What's LR's strongest team Perlica / Ardelia / Xaihi?

[frozen tide]

Yeah

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-25836431

[frozen tide]

Xaihi cryo amp is actually nuts

[midnight stirrup]

Jk

[summer flicker]

wouldnt gilb buff more than ardelia

[weak meteor]

yeah but its for only 5 seconds so depends on how long it takes to do that damage

[frozen tide]

Ard has way higher uptime

[tardy comet]

Thank you! So, Stanza. I also have the option to choose oblivion from a box, but Stanza its better since i'm doing Perlica Supp, right?

[frozen tide]

Also can gilb stack susc with corro

[frozen tide]

Yuh

[summer flicker]

isnt lr all dmg in like combo + ult

[frozen tide]

You combo frequent

[whole crystal]

[frozen tide]

Gilb can work

[dire owl]

do the nature stacks not conflict with the cryo?

[summer flicker]

oh, hmm, i've only seen oneshot clip

[frozen tide]

Probs optimal for certain speedkills

But generally you run ard

[summer flicker]

ic

[drifting quest]

gilb cant buff last rites entire damage output

[daring dove]

Yeah I need to start building her soon, but still too many holes left in my Laevatain investment. Until we start getting news of content that requires a second team I guess from a meta prospective it makes no sense to start splitting my investment across multiple teams rn.

[drifting quest]

so she isnt run in any timeline yet known

[midnight stirrup]

Was looking for that one

[dire owl]

so gilb with LR is just propoganda for views

[drifting quest]

maybe there's some ultra tight timing gilb can make to buff the combo after stacks are consumed but

[whole crystal]

[drifting quest]

no one is trying it

[midnight stirrup]

Its speedrun shit i think

[frozen tide]

I saw a crazy china whale run with gilb rite but it seems like those guys beat rhod sub 20 with just abt everything

[dire owl]

thats what i said 😂

[midnight stirrup]

Lmao i think its true

[gritty olive]

i cant do r880

dipping on 620 and gonna continue my sims later

[drifting quest]

r25 all four hcm

in exchange

[frozen tide]

Mayb if umbral has lots of mobs gilb will be nice for rite idk

[drifting quest]

i cant talk i did 620 and 15x4

[daring dove]

She seems really fun at high investment, but she's kind of mid in the early game. She's not like Laevatain that scales well across all content. But for standard banner DPS she's exceptional.

[frozen tide]

Cause rite comp has no cc and very little aoe

[dire owl]

but wouldnt the nature stacks conflict with the cryo stacks

[frozen tide]

So you are telling me

In this situation where theres a shitload of mobs

[drifting quest]

you bench last rite

correct

[frozen tide]

To the point where you are thinking of running gilb for grouping

Rite cant oneshot them with ult

What kinda cooked content is that

[drifting quest]

how big do you think gilbs suction is

this isnt a venti ult

[valid zealot]

femboy mentioned

[frozen tide]

Isnt it more akin to sucrose

[valid zealot]

But yeah not present now, just a sore to think of.

[drifting quest]

its smaller than sucroses

[amber vapor]

Group content? Sounds like you should make an aoe ult team comp

[frozen tide]

Dam

Suc suc is big tbh

[shy bloom]

how important is the Ardelia talent that immediately casts battle skill again?

[drifting quest]

its maybe a similar size to a kazuha tap skill

but also less pull power

[frozen tide]

If theres a lot of bob mobs you wouldn't care too much

[dire owl]

who is bob and why is he mobbing

[valid zealot]

To spread susc. easier, not by much.

[shy bloom]

does it stack the susceptibility if it casts again?

[valid zealot]

No.

[rustic knoll]

fluorite(p5) or perlica(p2) and why ty, i legit cannot make the choice i do NOT know what is technically better

[sly nymph]

sciel running double aethertech now

bruh

[dire owl]

perli is better for late game

[daring dove]

Her combo trigger CD reduces a second if you max rank it, so you can reduce her corrioson application CD from 18s to 17s. An then a further 2 seconds with P5. It definitely helps ith comfort. But with good play you can get nearly 100% uptime against ST anyway.

[frozen tide]

P2 perlica for forced ele

[valid zealot]

minmaxgaming.

[rustic knoll]

thank you

[rustic knoll]

and double thank you

[frozen tide]

It lets you have higher uptime if you are trynna stack susc and corro

[valid zealot]

Aether tech kinda crazy tho.

[frozen tide]

Which you should for screenshots

[valid zealot]

If my Lifeng has 6* I would too.

[rustic knoll]

also i heard somewhere the slot which each character is in actually matters, ts true?

[regal fractal]

Yes

[valid zealot]

For combo skill that has the same trigger condition.

[rustic knoll]

i see

[regal fractal]

Combo with same triggers will show up in team order

[valid zealot]

The order go from left to right.

[rustic knoll]

so who goes in what slot ^_^

[frozen tide]

I use that layout

[daring dove]

Yeah, I think her P5 is one of the better ones in the game rn. But from an optimal gameplay prospective you can get most of the same value from simply having P1 Ardelia minus a lot of the confort.

[regal fractal]

I think ardelia, then pelica then xai then lr

[frozen tide]

But my screenshots

[blazing lake]

🗿

[rugged vale]

yvonne stocks 📈

[valid zealot]

She is not going up.

[regal fractal]

Is she that bad?

[daring dove]

Yvonne going to be buffed to only be 4% worst than LR trust.

[blazing lake]

its prydwen, i wouldn't take this to heart

[regal fractal]

That's what I was thinkng

[sly nymph]

swordmancer in shambles

[valid zealot]

They invented the partner tag.

[rustic knoll]

is prydwen bad for this game, it was pretty good for HSR

[valid zealot]

Soon she'll go to 0.5

with gilb.

[daring dove]

Naw Yvonne being a CR scaler is in a bad position RN.

[regal fractal]

Partner tag is huge

Sure da pan goes up

[sly nymph]

yeah

[valid zealot]

clueless

[frozen tide]

The hopium

[regal fractal]

Lmfao

[valid zealot]

With Gilb.

It's prydwen

[rustic knoll]

also before i invest a shit ton into my LR team, would u guys say she is fun, cuz atm im running full physical and i dont wanna change to find the gameplay more boring

ik its subjective ofc

[valid zealot]

You can never convince me the same tier makers that made Partner+ tag to justify T0 Cerydra wouldn't do something like this.

[regal fractal]

Pog lifeng?

[daring dove]

She seems very fun from the bits I tried out with her. But I haven't invested into her myself yet either.

[ripe parrot]

LR is fun if you like big number

[frozen tide]

Lr is a bit clunky at times

[ripe parrot]

I personally find the phys rotation more fun to play but this is extremely subjective

[regal fractal]

Yeah same

Lr for me is way too clunky I agree

[ripe parrot]

one thing is I feel like LR might be good far into the future where we have better cryo appliers

[rustic knoll]

pog endmin ember/ardelia(i switch between the 2 due to boredom) chen

[ripe parrot]

nobody likes da pan 🙁

[regal fractal]

I prefer that over last rite but

[ripe parrot]

even though he's sick

[regal fractal]

Is da pan that good?

I think he's too clunky again

[ripe parrot]

super smooth phys rotation

[regal fractal]

I'm a fan of endmin too

[sly nymph]

he's a fatass clown character

what do u expect

[rustic knoll]

i was gonna get lifeng from the free character but i got LR instead just for later when there is duo team content if there ever is

[regal fractal]

Rossi is 1.1 right?

[ripe parrot]

with little investment, da pan is really good because no SP use for crush, +2 vuln stacks every ult

[valid zealot]

Probably.

[ripe parrot]

endmin has a way higher threshold assuming you live in a world where you somehow have too many vuln stacks and SP

but phys is pretty sp hungry

[valid zealot]

Da Pan gameplay fluidity versus Endmin is like, cutting board versus Ember frontal view.

[rugged vale]

yeah but p5 tax

[sly nymph]

just pull p5 nbd

[ripe parrot]

even without p5 he's still good?

[sly nymph]

do you have a p5 5star? because i don't

[ripe parrot]

it's more that he saves you 100sp every crush cycle and he also gives +2 vuln stack per ult

[stuck flame]

Guys is it better to select Ember or a C1 from the selector meta wise?

[heavy fossil]

which characters have good potentials?

[ripe parrot]

sure the p5 is good but it's not like da pan suddenly is bad without p5

[heavy fossil]

meta wise ember is non existent

[stuck flame]

Oh lol

[rustic knoll]

sustain is bunz as far as im aware cuz u can one tap most stuffs

and well u can dodge

[stuck flame]

So who are the best duples at the moment?

I already have Ardelia

[ripe parrot]

lifeng

[heavy fossil]

who’s best p1 and who’s best pots in general?

[ripe parrot]

p3 LR is good too

[stuck flame]

What's his team?

[regal fractal]

P1 lifeng or p0 pog from selec

[drifting quest]

p4 pog
p3 lr
p1,2,3,4,5 lifeng
p1 ardelia

[stuck flame]

Well I don't have other 2 last rite

[heavy fossil]

all of lifeng’s are good? nice

[ripe parrot]

pog lifeng chen da pan/endmin

i'm a da pan fan

[rustic knoll]

they better release a dope unit after the current 3 dip cuz i am hard skipping

[drifting quest]

take a look at the teaser in the release stream

[heavy fossil]

I’m an ember fan, it’s a rough life

[rustic knoll]

oh shi

[pure spoke]

guys i found out how endmins eyes look like ingame. not mods

[drifting quest]

next 6 units (rarities unknown)

[stuck flame]

No ardelia?

[rustic knoll]

i know what kind of person you are

[heavy fossil]

these ones

[drifting quest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arknights-lasairfhiona-endfield-0mZbwmKx4bhKI4kQ2f

[pure spoke]

i feel like those are edited, oh wait nvm

[ripe parrot]

ardelia is kinda unnecessary with lifeng

[rustic knoll]

i just wanted them to release a bad ass dude with a cool gimmick instead of gooner bait fr

[regal fractal]

ROSSI COME HOME

[heavy fossil]

solo addict, parry addict. Also I would’ve been a lifeng main if he didn’t wanna avoid me

[drifting quest]

time to play physical

[regal fractal]

Theres a guy with a spear and a halo on the right

He has potential

[drifting quest]

there's 1 male in the next 2 patches too

[ripe parrot]

you can't tell me pog doesn't have aura

[heavy fossil]

can you do a full male physical team

[regal fractal]

Fr

[ripe parrot]

yes with male endmin

lifeng pog m-endmin da pan

[regal fractal]

Panda and Male endnjn and pog

[ripe parrot]

husbando team

[regal fractal]

Pov no vuln

[ripe parrot]

actually kinda good

as far as husbando teams go

[heavy fossil]

of the next 8 characters to release, a total of one will be male. Amazing hg, truly proud of yall

[valid zealot]

[regal fractal]

We dunno maybe theres a 5star

[rustic knoll]

YES

[rustic knoll]

pog fo sure has aura, i need more tho

[heavy fossil]

maybe, but also maybe not. I personally doubt it but we’ll see

[rustic knoll]

i do love pogs gimmick, summoming soliders is sick asf, i main azir in league too so thats probs why

[valid zealot]

Tang Tang, Mifu, Scallion pants, cane villain, Rossi.

Who's the last.

[ripe parrot]

the ult actually is so satisfying to use

[regal fractal]

Yeah its sick

[valid zealot]

2nd from right

[heavy fossil]

don’t think that’s cane villain

[rustic knoll]

pog best ult for my so far in the game

me *

last rite next with a scythe

[regal fractal]

Leek?

The lightning girl

Oh nvm

I didn't see scallion pants

[valid zealot]

That's scallion pants.

smh

[regal fractal]

Sorry

[heavy fossil]

show in trailer

[valid zealot]

aight.

They sure love baggy clothes.

[rustic knoll]

i actually do like levatain design , but i just KNOW shes gonna be hot trash down the line due to it being a gacha game

[safe nymph]

sadly

[regal fractal]

Better than no clothes

Honestly I like how not everything is just over sexualised

[valid zealot]

My lawyer advised not to comment on this.

[safe nymph]

they like their urban tech wear

[regal fractal]

HAHAHAH

[ripe parrot]

coming from arknights, I hate how everything is over sexualized

[regal fractal]

Coming from czn ahemahem

[regal fractal]

Ikr its sick

[rustic knoll]

oh ok mb

[valid zealot]

[heavy fossil]

arknights drip is so much better imo

endfield has a few good designs but they’re future characters lol

[ripe parrot]

We need more units with the endfield outfit

that aren't also sexualized

[valid zealot]

L2Ds and chibi sprite are surely easier to work with.

[heavy fossil]

how do you feel about zhuang fangyi design?

[valid zealot]

I don't remember any characteristic of her from the waist up.

[ripe parrot]

I kinda like it but the parachute pants aren't for me. just not my taste but i respect it

[heavy fossil]

idk when I see it in game it doesn’t bother me that much

[ripe parrot]

it's at least tasteful I guess

[heavy fossil]

just her alternate form is kinda ehhhh

[safe nymph]

🤤

she’s def a love interest or past lover fs

[heavy fossil]

yeah idk I don’t like that they’re already going the same route as wuwa where every character is hopelessly in love with mc

but I digress this is pretty off topic

[ripe parrot]

yes fellow theorycrafters let's craft some theories

[safe nymph]

you can ask “did we have other encounters” when she’s reminiscing

[heavy fossil]

and now the chat dies lmao

[sterile herald]

still can’t decide thermite or fort on pog

[drifting quest]

thermite

[heavy fossil]

thermite is better afaik but fort is certainly cheaper and easier to get

[sterile herald]

i have thermite p0 and fort p2 i think

[drifting quest]

fort wants p5 so not even cheaper

[heavy fossil]

oh yea

nvm

[sterile herald]

is its damage at all comparable at p5?

[heavy fossil]

well it’s cheaper if you happen to get it from weapon pulls? Idk how weapon pulls work

[drifting quest]

you dont use them for damage

[ripe parrot]

i'm running fort because i'm stupid and didn't pick thermite cutter

[drifting quest]

both are buffing tools

[sterile herald]

yeah i mean the damage gained from the buffs

[drifting quest]

thermite should be more

[sterile herald]

bigger breach vs atk bonus

i see

also thermite doesn’t need to be levelled at all huh

[heavy fossil]

thermite is go to for a lot of characters

[drifting quest]

it can be less if you have more sources of external attack

[sterile herald]

i like the idea of fort making the rotation smoother but ugh

not levelling that shit to 90 bro

or 80 or whatever it is

[ripe parrot]

I like fort though because it allows for some really cheapo gear sets on pog

[sterile herald]

i’m not worried about cheap sets i just want max performance

i plan on just playing physical teams for the rest of my life

[heavy fossil]

what’s the absolute max ult gen possible?

[drifting quest]

like ~250%

or 150% plus base

[high finch]

same. i want some crazy bitch like vera from pgr. an insane woman with some edgy aura. or maybe a jacked up dude with a three-handed gigantic sword.

[heavy fossil]

that including from weapon?

[drifting quest]

yes

[heavy fossil]

k

any characters use a lot of ult gen?

[drifting quest]

quite a few

[heavy fossil]

which?

[ripe parrot]

laev akekuri wulf ardelia pog (sometimes) lifeng gilb to just name a few

[heavy fossil]

I see

[drifting quest]

laev, wulf, akekuri, alesh, gilb, ardelia, pog, lifeng, estella

probably some more

[ripe parrot]

honsetly you're more often than not running it if you're doing a carry/hyper-carry team

[heavy fossil]

dang that is a lot lol

[ebon thicket]

Is there a sheet on which gear are best as fodder for artificing what stats? Like let’s say for laevetain kit gear, battle skill dmg, what do I use as fodder for that? Others needed too, just an example.

Also does the rule that higher stat has higher chance to successfully artifice change if a gear is already artificed once/twice to a higher stat? Like if I artifice laevetain tide surge chest, and I artifice intellect and now intellect stat is higher, is using another tide surge chest to fodder intellect now lower chance due to being now lower than the artificed tide surge in intellect?

[drifting quest]

some only want 50-70% or so

[ripe parrot]

just filter by stat when you're artificing

[drifting quest]

some want about 100%

[ripe parrot]

it's not that deep

[heavy fossil]

why lifeng need ult gen again?

[ebon thicket]

So does it matter if the stat is lower the ?

[blazing lake]

@rare rover got gil essence

lets go!!!

[drifting quest]

try guoba's vid for stats, if its auxiliary lines then barring redeemer seal they should all be equal, not ahead

[ripe parrot]

not really but if you can go higher you should

[ripe parrot]

more rotation cycles if lifeng is just a phys susc + vuln bot

[rare rover]

not even laev related 💀

[ripe parrot]

I'm running ult eff on lifeng because my chen is 90 and everyone else is living in poverty at 60

but i'm probably an edge case

[blazing lake]

farming on the side 💔

[midnight stirrup]

I can only think of Last Rite wanting it but not wanting it enough to be on her gear

[latent ferry]

What's the best gold gear set for dps fluorite?

[sterile herald]

??

ion think anyone has calcd that

[latent ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/kerry-gif-18497580

[shrewd root]

i see on the iana chart for phys that endmin has advantages over da pan that only become clear in the very late game, however, it does not state what these advantages are. to anyone who knows, at endgame high investment between da pan and endmin, who is better?

also im not quite sure if the set recs are there in order of best to worst for a char, but the notes say to use pog as a dmg unit in early mid game, and also has 3pc bonecrusher (a damage set) as the set 1 recommendation. it also outlines 3pc Pulse Labs as Set 2 for pog with the comment that fortmaker allows pog to reach breakpoint, and also outlines that set 2 should be used when thermite cutter is P4+. is this to say that you should not use this set when therm is under P4? or is it saying that when using this set you should use Fortmaker unless therm is at P4? is it optimal to use with a P1 therm and aethertech hands? and i assume frontiers is not a good set to use, because despite saying that pogs dmg contribution is small i see no mention of that set while seeing the dmg set be recommended for set 1. what exactly is his optimal endgame build?

[rare rover]

u guys got that

u might wana ask iana herself

[shrewd root]

where might i find the goat herself?

[rare rover]

she appears here sometimes

[drifting quest]

endmin can theoretically burst more in short rot fights

[shrewd root]

i see...

[heavy relic]

Is there any lifeng comp i can use, making him the main dps

[rare rover]

as for pinging her.... i might ping the wrong one so ill pass kek

[shrewd root]

theoretically? and does this mean overall dps is lower in longer rot fights?

[drifting quest]

it means it doesnt necessarily actually perform in practice, due to nuances and variations and individual skill

the longer a fight goes on the more da pan climbs ahead

[shrewd root]

longer as in past a single minute or past like multiple minutes

[drifting quest]

by the minute mark you've likely done 3+ rots so dapan starts to win

[shrewd root]

crazy work, well that answers things nicely

[shrewd root]

how much better is exemplar for da pan over ancient canal?

[drifting quest]

not hugely so

[shrewd root]

bet

[wild meteor]

i dont think he's like a main dps but strong sub dps with chen endmin and pog

[shrewd root]

can you perhaps answer the wall of text over pog build? if you know of course, sorry in advance

[high finch]

I think dapan is a lot easier to use while endmin can deal more dmg it requires more precise gameplay and heavily invested chen and lifeng. So he deals a lot of dmg by himself and shares 50% of attack buffs. Also his signature is 1$ and he will eventually get even stronger when we get more of his pots so even though dapan is easier I bet on endmin as future proof investment

[shrewd root]

ive just been told that thats not the case

apparently da pan js is better at longer fights (fights that take more than 3 rotations)

[drifting quest]

pog has an energy breakpoint of ~52%
you can either look to hit that with fortmaker, or p4

you can also choose to take a slightly worse er breakpoint because it's not hugely important

[shrewd root]

however i did forget to ask a thing

[drifting quest]

its more than anything a preference thing

[high finch]

It’s just my opinion and based on feelscrafting

[shrewd root]

do the aethertech hands make it so i can hit that breakpoint with p1 therm?

and with p1 therm, what is his best set? or should i use fortmaker and then pulse over anything with p1 therm?

[drifting quest]

depends what the rest of the build is

[shrewd root]

like as in the rest of the teams builds?

[drifting quest]

thermite is generally better than fortmaker due to attack buffs being good, you can probably make do with the first/top set

as in the other 3 gear

aethertech hands is to max arts intensity if you need more breach

but that's typically a use case you would know, rather than using it as a baseline

[shrewd root]

i see, so they dont add to the breakpoint

[shrewd root]

so would you rec p1 therm and pulse, fort and pulse, or p1 therm and bonecrusher/frontier?

[drifting quest]

the bonekrusha + xiranite gloves w/ artificing, w/ therm if you want comfortable ult amounts
you can go for triple pulser if you want more intensity

id personally probably go for the former, but its again a preference thing

[shrewd root]

is the performance diff between them minimal? or is it a situation where you need to be good at the game for one set to work etc...

[drifting quest]

its preference

not much more

[shrewd root]

idk what im preferring over the other though

[drifting quest]

if you understand the game and the team there's certainly case by case basis' to each

at worst you can pseudo test them both, obviously will lack the artificing so pulser is likely to perform better from the objective side

[shrewd root]

i see, that makes sense. i assume certain situations would have more ults be the better option as compared to more breach for higher dmg windows

for grouping and the like as well

[drifting quest]

generally the longer the fight goes on the more a charge set will have value

the shorter a fight the better pure intensity builds would be

[shrewd root]

i see, i assume endgame would primarily be bosses/longer fights right?

[drifting quest]

current endgame is, future endgame is a lot shorter, if it even is endgame

we only know the contents of the first version

[shrewd root]

i see, then i suppose i'll follow your rec of bonecrusha + xira + therm then since it helps in longer fights. might as well be prepared for the endgame they send sooner rather than later

thank you much for the help!!

[drifting quest]

the longer you avoid artificing the safer it is

[nimble comet]

between this team and last rite hypercarry, which one should I go to?

[drifting quest]

lr hyper

that one is a strictly worse version of yvonne hyper which is a strictly worse version of lr hyper

[nimble comet]

daaaamn 😭

thats brutal

[drifting quest]

what it means to be yvonne in 1.0

[tight haven]

yvonne has no comfortable place anywhere right now

[gritty olive]

would you guys take a more unfair gear grind over m1 to m3 all costing civilight eternas to upgrade

[tight haven]

she's perfectly usable but she won't excel like lr does

[drifting quest]

no

[tight haven]

yes

[dry kindle]

Anything that isnt mat timegated

[drifting quest]

events should shore up crown generation to a fair degree

[tight haven]

timegating gear behind other activities is preferable to this cringe ass p2w mastery system

[dry kindle]

Should

[drifting quest]

1.5/week is pretty fair

[tight haven]

at least nobody can BUY gear

like you cant whale into it

i think thats good

[dry kindle]

Gear is gonna be a lot easier once wuling stops being poor as fuck

[tight haven]

rewards players for actually putting time into the game

yea

it only feels bad cuz wuling is like 1/3 done

[drifting quest]

1.5/week
~2-??? extra per patch
up to 18/patch from battle pass

seems decent income wise

[gritty olive]

so youre always operating at 75% of your potential power, but you already have your mainstat gear

[dry kindle]

Paid bp

[tight haven]

paid bp gives you uhh

[drifting quest]

assuming 6 week patches I think it's fair for buying battle pass to essentially double your crown income, a bit less even

[tight haven]

i forgot, is it 20 total?

doesnt sound right

[ocean hawk]

lemme check

[drifting quest]

should be 18

m9 worth per patch

[tight haven]

idk i just dislike crown income being so sparse

[drifting quest]

id expect f2p income to be one m12 per patch

[ocean hawk]

i got 16 now and used 2 on pog

so 18

[tight haven]

it's kinda cringe

[drifting quest]

we just havent gotten to the events that give crowns yet in 1.0

[latent ferry]

So far so good

[drifting quest]

so it looks worse than it is

[gritty olive]

unlike GI, it only gates r9 -> r10
HSR tracks of destiny is plentiful

[drifting quest]

umbral monument is 3 crowns every 2 weeks

[tight haven]

hopefully they buffed the event rwwards yep

[drifting quest]

and other events are likely 1+ crowns each

[gritty olive]

we will see

[tight haven]

yeah we'll see

[ocean hawk]

because we buy that from the exchange store

[tight haven]

i think masteries are already expensive enough without the crowns

[ocean hawk]

and endfield doesnt have it

[drifting quest]

we're getting the first event in like 24h

[tight haven]

like it's an obscene amount of mats m1-3 asks of you

[drifting quest]

yeah crowns side the cost is a bit of a joke

[ocean hawk]

i think the plentiful resource graph in this game will be significantly lower

although in the end we will have so many resource

but it will take long time to reach that point

[tight haven]

yeah

though i will say

[drifting quest]

its funny because i have some hundreds of most of the overworld farm time gated sources

[tight haven]

whaling gets you pretty fucking far ahead

LOL

[ocean hawk]

specifically that fuckin crown

[tight haven]

the bond quota shop is crazy

[drifting quest]

but no sanity to farm proto chips

[ocean hawk]

idk if buying bundle counts as whale

but

[tight haven]

yeah idk why dijiang even lets you grow these

ngl

[ocean hawk]

by buying the crown bundle

it already push u far

[tight haven]

its such a weird choice imo

[drifting quest]

its what like a full week for some to grow

[tight haven]

should have just been a third factory

or a trading post

[drifting quest]

dijiang in general just doesnt feel great resource wise

[tight haven]

bc the tc economy is in the shitter

[drifting quest]

free is free but man give me by beta base back

[tight haven]

every op/equip takes soooooo much tc to raise

[ocean hawk]

wait what

is the beta base good

[tight haven]

dijiang in cbt2 sucked ass

[drifting quest]

arknights joke

[tight haven]

like it did things maybe like

1/2 the efficiency

[icy ginkgo]

how many crowns does umbral give

[tight haven]

that it does now

[drifting quest]

arknights base was/is(?) in beta for ages

[tight haven]

lmao yeah

[drifting quest]

3/cycle

2 cycles confirmed

[tight haven]

it only "came out of beta" last year

[tight haven]

is this confirmed

this is the beta number

[drifting quest]

going purely off beta

[icy ginkgo]

just enough to m3 one skill

[drifting quest]

since nothing else has changed with it

[tight haven]

yeah we should be frank abt that

[drifting quest]

it cant get any lower at least

[tight haven]

it shouldnt

[dry kindle]

[tight haven]

if it does ill fucking

see god

[dry kindle]

Me omw to never use crowns

Even tho you probably get 24 before you can afford a pity

[sly nymph]

4/5 of a pull per day even with monthly

https://tenor.com/view/shu-arknights-sui-gif-7073468061133619170

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fangyi-can-you-stop-fucking-around-gif-2298645845255946638

[junior canopy]

whats the %dmg boost of link?

[drifting quest]

depends on stacks

assuming 1, the most likely case

30% for skills

20% for ults

[junior canopy]

where do you find that info?

[drifting quest]

there's a damage formula doc

[junior canopy]

can u send?

[drifting quest]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

[junior canopy]

thanks

[high finch]

Does anyone have a showcase of an actually invested lifeng? Maybe from cn

Or his calcs atleast

[junior canopy]

just preview him in basic banner

@drifting quest what do you think of this team comp im working on: lifeng, laevatain, last rite, xaihi

[fiery thorn]

Does Ultimate DMG Bonus increase the damage of Laevatain's enhanced normals during her ult?

[drifting quest]

to what purpose

what are they meant to do together

[silent egret]

What the hell

[junior canopy]

actually akekuri instead of lifeng

[drifting quest]

how do you plan to mitigate the sp issues required to stack melting flame
how do you intend to deal with clashing cryo and heat inflictions

[blazing lake]

i can smell you from here 🤢

[opaque geyser]

"A little bit of this a little bit of that" team

[junior canopy]

Last rite: enhances final strike, final strike recovers some sp. Inflicts cryo, can solo stack cryo for her combo skill

(Controlled operator) Laevatein: Uses last rite battle skill to enhance final strikes (faster application of cryo stacks due to basic atk speed), ultimate skill credits last rite battle skill, combustion from akekuri heat infliction triggers combo skill

Akekuri: Link buff and heat infliction

Xaihi: cryo amp, combo skill inflicts cryo, arts amp

Rotation: xaihi battle skill for amp, last rite battle skill spam to build cryo for either combustion or 3 stack combo skill

Ultimate rotation(1): same basic rotation except with laevatein's ult and xaihi ult + cube

Ultimate rotation(2): akekuri link and xaihi ult + cube then last ritr ultimate

Team is built around the combustion mechanic my first draft was that wolf guy instead of akekuri for heat infliction

[drifting quest]

if you ever apply heat infliction when there are active cryo infliction(s), or vice versa, the entire stack of both is consumed

[opaque geyser]

and I assume it's their main goal

[drifting quest]

you either gimp laev or last rite

[opaque geyser]

Like vaporizing

Lol

[drifting quest]

or in actuality you gimp both

[opaque geyser]

Is there like a chart damage in this game

[drifting quest]

it'll make even story a slow drag

[opaque geyser]

for like reaction

[drifting quest]

we have multipliers for the damaging reactions yes

[opaque geyser]

I just rock full heat amp didn't want to think to much

even if it works

[safe sand]

the endfield wiki.gg has them

[drifting quest]

the way endfield is set up you are encouraged to stack 'mono' teams

[opaque geyser]

I bet the traditional ones is easier to play

[opaque geyser]

yes

[junior canopy]

There isnt really a conflict if u know how to play around it tho cus laevatein's combo trigger requires combustion and another arts infliction is necessary for early triggers

[drifting quest]

reaction based comps do not have a payoff right now, and nearly all current carries care about stacking just their infliction

[opaque geyser]

true

[drifting quest]

i mean play it if you want
i can tell you its objectively bad and might cause you to struggle
but play it if you want

im certainly not going to stop you

[opaque geyser]

I can't imagine last rite doing infliction on her own lmao

xaihi defo helps but

with laev and akekuri on the team

won't their combo skill eat the stacks

vice versa

but it's good to have fun lmao

I even play phys heat on my alt

[junior canopy]

Akekuri combo skill is the only thing that eats stacks and u only use it at 1 cryo stack to trigger combustion for laevatein's combo skill

I wanna try experimenting heat electro too

[drifting quest]

akekuri combo skill does not eat stacks, her combat skill does

[opaque geyser]

it's doable

[torn raft]

Wanting to try some laev comp i saw with lifeng and gilberta

[opaque geyser]

yeah, I tried using lifeng and pog for sp and grouping and it works

[junior canopy]

Cryo heat doesnt necessarily compliment but its character dynamics with this specific team comp works somehow

[opaque geyser]

maybe Gilberta will do wonders on this comp😂

[torn raft]

She's still odd to me but someone saying her combo adds vuln stack as well makes me want to use her now

[opaque geyser]

she's buffing everything

[torn raft]

Translation sucks, didnt realize lift adds vuln stack

[drifting quest]

gilberta does not buff physical damage

[opaque geyser]

best investment

but add vulnerability no?

[torn wolf]

How's ember stagger strat? Anyone tried and had success?

[junior canopy]

Game credits mono teams alot but i wanna believe in hybrid teams lol cus why else would they be adding combustion, electrification, and solidification art infliction mixes

[drifting quest]

her combo skill does

[opaque geyser]

and she's good at grouping

[drifting quest]

meme comp, objectively worse than physical

[opaque geyser]

That works too

[torn raft]

Honestly ignoring her ult only giving arts susc the grouping has value

[drifting quest]

said comp staggers better than the 'stagger comp' does

[opaque geyser]

[drifting quest]

it's one stack every 20 seconds, and requires using gilberta skill, and that's all she does

[torn wolf]

Ahh rip ok

[drifting quest]

just run an actual unit

[opaque geyser]

what's her role tho

I wonder

[drifting quest]

gilberta is an arts comp amplifier for teams that do not care about infliction stacks or like having nature infliction stacks

her home right now is electric or yvonne teams

[opaque geyser]

I see

so she's avy bis

I love playing avy except when I'm hitting the wrong enemy

with the elec inflict

[drifting quest]

you align gilberta ult with avy combat skill nukes

[wise gate]

avy when a:

[opaque geyser]

🤌

heavens

it's gonna be satisfying

[wise gate]

what does gilberta even look like

she's the only char I have no clue about

[opaque geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-11278654791925482718

[wise gate]

cause I can preview surtyr, I have yvonne, and I know abt everybody else

[opaque geyser]

[wise gate]

avy goes well with antal I assume cause he has elec arts amp

actually how does playing multiple chars even feel lemme go try

[opaque geyser]

you can run both sp

Ake and antal

If you didn't have Gilberta yet

perlica massive ult damage will cover it

[wise gate]

fraudlica

[drifting quest]

antal doesnt tend to get run unless you lack gilb

and even then sometimes its just ardelia instead

[wise gate]

I mean he's not really a bad char but his main upsides are caused by him being a ranged character which means he's really replaceable with like every support

[drifting quest]

what does being ranged have to do with his replacability

[frozen tide]

Antal is for dps

Damage per screenshot

[heavy fossil]

is antal’s damage per screenshot really that good?

[drifting quest]

worse than gilb's

hence why gilb is on the team over him

[wise gate]

when being controlled by you a ranged char usually has higher dps than if you were controlling a melee char assuming they were outputting similar numbers

[drifting quest]

what

[wise gate]

fym what

[heavy fossil]

I think they’re talking about basic combo length

maybe

[glass pine]

Uhhm is there any guide I can look at for which gear is best used on which char?

[heavy fossil]

actually idk

[wise gate]

most ranged chars are able to output damage constantly

you tend to have to dodge with a melee char

[drifting quest]

pins

just read the text

[wise gate]

a ranged char can just sit out of the attack range and spam

[drifting quest]

dodging is a beneficial thing you want to do

it gives you sp

[wise gate]

missing the point

[drifting quest]

i dont see how

[wise gate]

its the fact you HAVE to

[drifting quest]

no clears care about ranged vs melee diff

[wise gate]

a ranged char chooses to dodge but a melee char is forced to

[drifting quest]

if anything being melee is a benefit because you can dodge more

[wise gate]

the ranged char can just sit in melee range and they can dodge the same amount

[drifting quest]

exactly

you understand now ranged vs melee

means nothing

[wise gate]

but can the melee char

[drifting quest]

so again

[wise gate]

go outside of range and shoot their sword

[drifting quest]

what relevance is antal being ranged

[lost heart]

I think range units are useful for party members if you have low stats

this helps keep them from taking damage

[frozen tide]

Who main fields antal