theorycrafting

[amber vapor]

It'll refresh when the next distro upgrade is available

[outer ermine]

my wuling is doomed, i have like 2 +50% in price and one +130%

[tight haven]

i dislike the opportunity cost is all

it wont restock fully every week

[tight haven]

me for the past week

i hate wuling

[torn raft]

Incomplete region to push jan 21 release

[summer flicker]

i never have anything lower than 20% bruh

[torn raft]

It is what it is

[twilit quail]

i mean this build is more or less from aug 25

[amber vapor]

Man I shoulda just made a default team only comp

Woulda been fun having constrained limitations

[torn raft]

There's a gorillion souls games out there

Im here to chill

[daring dove]

Ardelia effectively maxed. as the remaining skill do nothing for her.

[torn raft]

Praying for difficult boss fights but i dunno how hard they wanna make it for a gacha game

[unreal light]

Hey, how does 53 recharge changes pog playstyle?

[amber vapor]

Story team only challenge: Endmin, Chen and Perlica

[torn raft]

Wasn't there an option to play the game like that and remove gacha

[twilit quail]

you can play ex astris

[peak void]

would 196% ult charge be enough on wulfgard for a laevatain team

[torn raft]

And i kinda hated how much story cut into gameplay

[amber vapor]

Originally I was gonna make my account a no pulls account but then I was like man these rotations are boring asf

[daring dove]

Not sure how I feel about the reduced mob level.

[torn raft]

I will probably get bored enough to go run solo chen

[daring dove]

I can't even start my rotations on them not before they're dead.

[torn raft]

Overworld combat is meh im mostly trying to avoid getting near them daily

[amber vapor]

I can see them making a roguelite game mode where you stack debuffs on your team for higher rewards

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-chen-alter-chalter-arknights-cc-gif-25115775

[amber vapor]

Yeah it's overdone in gachas but it deffo is fun

[torn raft]

I dunno how action gacha do their endgame but id like a for fun combat mode

[lofty frigate]

lifeng skill > chen combo > chen skill x2 > lifeng combo > endmin combo > pog skill

pog ult > pog combo > lifeng skill > chen combo > lifeng combo > lifeng ult > chen ult > endmin combo > endmin skill

does this seem right? feels like i'm doing something wrong ngl 😭

[twilit quail]

one thing you want to do

is sync chen and lifeng's combo cooldowns

that might make it feel better for you

[amber vapor]

ZZZ and WuWa have one weekly mode that's a roguelite, an endgame mode that's just waves of enemies you need to clear within a certain amount of time and a zooted boss mode.

[lofty frigate]

ah

ok that makes sense

ty

[twilit quail]

so you can just hold chen combo a bit

yea

[torn raft]

Just gotta wait then

[twilit quail]

and try controlling different char

to see which you like most

[torn raft]

Does phys teams need a specific team order?

[twilit quail]

pog should be in 1st

and endmin/dapan need to be after lifeng

it's not strict but you do have to meet those two criteria

[torn raft]

Ok, ty

[twilit quail]

this is partially because of a current bug

that only really affects physical

physical moment

[torn raft]

Really should build last rite but phys team not needing sig weapons is pretty appealing

[outer ermine]

phy try to be playable challenge

[twilit quail]

oh wow valiant is in store

[lofty frigate]

feels a lot smoother now ty again

[drifting quest]

gotta wait a day and a bit for gilb sig banner

before i buy valiant

[twilit quail]

np

[torn raft]

Valiant will probably be thrown into more sig banners

[drifting quest]

now that we're getting a payout in 1.1 or 1.2 for early game changes im tempted to go in for gilb

but i dont think ill have enough to guarantee

certainly not enough to guarantee sig

[torn raft]

Do u have the dossier for gilb

[daring dove]

Is there any point in taking Akekuri to level 90, or just save my resources.

[torn raft]

Probably not

[drifting quest]

yeah

[twilit quail]

rip I could not hit the tap for gilb essence

[drifting quest]

20 free + about 80 in savings

so i could make it

thinking on it

[torn raft]

It's time to 20 pull cope

[drifting quest]

there's definitely 20 pulls

3 events + dailies and whatnot

fuck it i guess

we ball

[torn raft]

Didnt u say you're skipping yvonne anyways

[drifting quest]

i have her already

[torn raft]

Oh shit

[drifting quest]

only chars im missing are gilb pog ember

pog i will selector im just waiting to pull first

because if i selector him now im coming out of gilb banner with p2 pog

[twilit quail]

fuck i want to refresh

[drifting quest]

is it still bugged

that if you spam essences

you lose the gel

[torn raft]

I have to scroll through them so i guess im safe

I need to throw away my purples

Or maybe they can grant mercy and let us gel them for 1-2 each

[unborn kernel]

should I get Valiant for Lifeng or Oblivion for flex/perlica support?

[drifting quest]

probably valiant but it depends

[unborn kernel]

what are the best weapons from the two free boxes?
not a fan of the visual design of some like Thermite Cutter but its supposedly good..

[drifting quest]

thermite is like

the best weapon for every vanguard for a long time

[twilit quail]

the evil cryo conjoiner coming next patch:

but yeah therm is really good

[drifting quest]

[unborn kernel]

the whatt lmao

[quasi quarry]

Oblivion is purely damage oriented I don't think it's too useful on a lot of units atm

could be in the future though

[twilit quail]

oblivion has 1 user rn

which is perlica

[drifting quest]

not even all that on perlica is it

[twilit quail]

and it's still a bit duboius on her

[quasi quarry]

lots of supporting options instead

[twilit quail]

it's only for electric team

and even there it's just cause

she cant use stanza

[drifting quest]

like third best choice if no det no wanderer i guess

[woeful plume]

does this thing auto open i cant find it

[gentle quiver]

yes

[woeful plume]

BOOOORING

[twilit quail]

oblivion loops back around to being good at ultra high invest

because WW is, well, just WW

[drifting quest]

makes sense

[dire warren]

why is the #team-build pins spreadsheet recommending a offset full ult gain eff, over the hotwork 3 set? is it that much better to have a 1 rotation ult rather than 2 rotations but with bigger dmg?

[drifting quest]

depends on content

the longer the fight the better charge set becomes

overworld gaming charge set is always better

its mostly preference since both can clear all content

[torn raft]

How much artificing mats is the charge kits

Does surtr need another 5 million wuling dollars

[next helm]

This is helpful

Lifeng P1 does this change at all or still same

[daring dove]

I'mma be rich boys.

[atomic kraken]

[next helm]

Wait with P1 you can apply vuln and susceptibility?

Is that a translation error?

[quick mesa]

hello, i need help plz : does Pog's combo proc the frontier set effect plz ?

[sterile herald]

my friend had a 950% a few days ago

[daring dove]

I'm guessing he stopped being your friend the second he became a billionare.

[sterile herald]

yeah cut off all their day ones

moved to LA

that’s it

[lime bear]

finally @drifting quest @tight haven I needed M3 BSkill, Artifice every INT Gear stat once, 8/8/4 essence + ginseng + perplexing on Ake

[drifting quest]

w

[outer ermine]

cute

[lime bear]

god Marble is really just dps check, my stupid ass missed one EBS when the boss move away but yeah with enough DPS you stagger fast enough so the boss doesn't even do the laser thing that takes shitton of time

last time I did perfect rotation no miss

but the boss just do the fly and laser shit once

[drifting quest]

it do be like that

[lime bear]

so loss allot of time

now that I actually upgraded shit my DPS do enough stagger and kill it

[drifting quest]

now enjoy the knowledge nothing is going to be even as close to as hard for a while

[lime bear]

it's not even that hard really, just the fucking dps check is insane and annoying

I optimized my rotation so much

but at the end it's just DPS check, my run when I got it is not as perfect but good enough ig

I died a lot because I tried to damage as much as possible and ignored dodge since it's sucks on mobile and died lmfao

wasted the food buff 💔

[daring dove]

Well that's nice I don't intend to play endmin for now but good to have.

Got it while tring to get Ardelia's after 90 attempts.

[lime bear]

I always save 6* 3/3 cuz you never know when you'll use it tbh

[daring dove]

Yeah I got this one as well in the same run, shame I have no intention of using these weapons rn.

[sterile herald]

does anyone have a video for the physical team rhodagn world record

@tight haven yo

[drifting quest]

phys team record keeps getting broken afaik

it was 42s or something a day or two ago

is less now

[sterile herald]

oh cool

i wonder what’s changing to make it faster

i wish i could understand chinese

would be neat to read through some of this

[drifting quest]

optimized play really

better investment

[lime bear]

what's the fastest for Laevatain

[drifting quest]

~15s

[lime bear]

tbh Rhodagn is piss ez

[drifting quest]

that he is

[lime bear]

probably the most straightforward boss

[sterile herald]

definitely

regardless i’m interested i hope someone has it

nothing close to it on youtube

[cinder igloo]

my WIP essence sorter, put in your essence 3 stats and it will select the best weapon to utilize it

[sterile herald]

neat

[languid schooner]

will we ever get 6 stars gears or lvl 80/90?

[drifting quest]

will we? probably

will it be soon? unlikely

x.0 sort of change

[cinder igloo]

yesnt

[languid schooner]

kinda afraid of min maxing stuffs cause of that

[cinder igloo]

no point not to

[drifting quest]

if we get gear upgrades they will have to allow us to retain artificing progress or it will have to be year(s) in the future

[safe sand]

lets be so fr what else are yuo going to be doing with your time

[torn raft]

higher level gear will prob be in region 3

[safe sand]

might as well make the best gear you can now

[torn raft]

but there is likely a new gear set in new wuling area

[languid schooner]

right makes sense

[torn raft]

also investing in gear doesn't really kill other progression? nothing to really spend wuling dollars on outside surtr essence

and with a new update artificing will most likely get easier

[cinder igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-plan-theory-crazy-insane-gif-22079506

[languid schooner]

hoping for that. good chance feels like 1%

[torn raft]

I'm thinking more mats and offset materials for gloves and chestpiece may be good matches

I was on 2/3 intellect until i realized the charge kits was a good match for hot works kit

[shut cobalt]

is lifeng with a 5* weapon good enough for phys or do i really need to buy this?
(have 14600 currency atm)

[daring dove]

Most people aren't at max investment on any of their teams right now.

[sterile herald]

makes sense

[vestal turtle]

endmin definitely getting upgrades as the story goes on

like every gacha mc

[vestal turtle]

it's a good investment, but I feel like his sig will eventually be rotated as well

depends on how patient u are really

[daring dove]

Yeah the question is though the timing of those upgrades, do they stay close to meta or just fall further & further behind the pack.

Usually it's the latter.

[shut cobalt]

isnt that only for non-sigs tho?

[vestal turtle]

the other gacha I play has had the mc meta for like half a year

and he still is

[shut cobalt]

it wouldnt make sense for them moneywise to sell something for a LOT cheaper just by being patient

[vestal turtle]

endmin's sig was on the shop

[shut cobalt]

but then again, thats endmin and there isnt a banner for it

[tight haven]

we will see

i would be surprised if they do give out featured weapons

[shut cobalt]

how much better even is mountainbearer anyways?

than valiant ofc

[drifting quest]

the more invested your lifeng the bigger the gap

[midnight stirrup]

Sig weapons are usually only a 10-20% dps increase over their second

So unless u want the look to fit

Dont bother

[shut cobalt]

i c, what about the 5* option? how much better is it over the 5*

[midnight stirrup]

As what

[shut cobalt]

mountainbearer over the best 5*

[twilit quail]

with lifeng pots the difference begins to get larger and larger

but you dont need to worry about that

probably

[midnight stirrup]

No clue tbh I didnt look into Lifeng weapon calcs

But the guide from iana in pins in teambuilding mentions his best options

[twilit quail]

with 5* he is still functioning

[shut cobalt]

it doesnt say anything other than the 6*s, which is why im worried its much much worse

[twilit quail]

he just has to be xiranite set ultbot instead

[midnight stirrup]

Lucky for you iana is right here

So they can help you

Just ask nicely

[sterile patrol]

in dmg in a prolonged fight it was like 70% of mountain bearer iirc

but if you make him ult bot its chill max

[shut cobalt]

so as long as u make him a ult bot, its not as big of a difference, right?

[twilit quail]

well

it is a big diffeernce

but he will still be useful

[sterile patrol]

ye

[next helm]

When is the ult efficiency required?

[twilit quail]

and his uptime on xiranite is quite good, which is nice even if it is nerfed

[lavish jay]

so basically dont get the weapon in the shop rn and just use whatever u have for lifeng? 🤔

[twilit quail]

that is a choice for you

[shut cobalt]

got it, so in the end, should i get valiant or just use the 5* until theres a mountainbearer?
optimal wise

[twilit quail]

the units' personal damage is very good in late game with either 6*

but he still functions with the 5*

and is still going to be far better than anything else in the slot

[drifting quest]

assuming you have the resources spare and no interest in the next 4-8 banners the mb banner is pretty good

also assumes everything is a hit

[shut cobalt]

i was asking if mountainbearer pops up in the weekly shop

[drifting quest]

no

sigs for standard banner chars do not enter the rotation as far as we know

hence their permanent banners

[shut cobalt]

i c, so, get valiant or just use a 5*? (i have 14600 currency)

[drifting quest]

hard to say what is better, it's all about if the cost is acceptable for you

[lime bear]

@drifting quest can you make this but for the 3 boss trims

[twilit quail]

grand vision was on sale but it also is an offrate in another sig's banner

[drifting quest]

i have negative skill in photoshop

[sterile herald]

i’m starting my pulls for mountain bearer

[twilit quail]

so it's safe to say weapons like khrav and mountainbearer are probably not going into the 2480 slot ever

[sterile herald]

if only i had more than one 10 pull worth of tickets

[lime bear]

use canva or someshit, I need the original image of the panda guy

cuz the medal is way too big and will cover up the 3 trims

maybe we need only 2

[shut cobalt]

is it likely to appear in a bp selector sometime?

[drifting quest]

bp selectors are cope options for the limited banner units

[lime bear]

Triaggelos and Marble only

Rhodagn is fraud

[shut cobalt]

ohh, i c
well, ig i'll get valiant then? its not like 2k of the currency will make a big difference in the long run
1 banner will already get me 8k so

[drifting quest]

if you're fine with the cost go for it

if you're planning to potentially go for gilb wait for her weapon banner

might be an offrate

[shut cobalt]

nah, dont give a damn about gilb/yvonne
they seem very weak atm from what i saw in the guide

[glass birch]

Yvonne's weak due to us missing her signature atm. She'll be fine once her banner rolls around

[woeful plume]

[manic blade]

if i had a photoshop subscription I could ):

expensive ahh adobe products

[shut cobalt]

anyways, thats all thanks guys

[summer flower]

Paint

Gimp

[woeful plume]

a 6* you will use for a 10 pull thats pretty good

enjoy ur valiant

[summer flower]

Gimp went thru changes

[manic blade]

do they have good cutouts

[summer flower]

I remember when it was everything in separate windows

[manic blade]

i have years of psd but haven't ever touched paint or gimp but a lot of the programs are rlly similar

like krita was suprisingly super easy to learn

[summer flower]

Now it's just Photoshop competition

Like Man, i wanna my windows back

[thin berry]

half way there

[shut cobalt]

wait 1 min, just realized i still have this selector, should i get exemplar for panda or not worth it?

[drifting quest]

its hard to say

[ancient shuttle]

I mean are you planning on using him?

[drifting quest]

wait and see 1.1 drip markets first

[manic blade]

I'm gonna run out of the 60k catylysts too... artificing is so insanely expensive

[shut cobalt]

does he even deal dmg?

[drifting quest]

main dps payoff of the team

but likely first to get booted out of the team

[torn raft]

wait wtf the essence I thought was only for pog sig fits into thermal cutter

[lavish jay]

can someone explain more about this? 🤔

[torn raft]

[shut cobalt]

wow lol, wasnt expecting that

[woeful plume]

pog double dash, ember shield

[drifting quest]

laev kills everything
wulfgard stacks
pog sprints faster
ember lets you not dodge

[shut cobalt]

i c, so ig i'll just save it since he'll get booted out of the team at some point anyways?

[woeful plume]

wulf provides heat stacks laeva on charge set 1 rotate

[drifting quest]

if you engage with gameplay and dodge you drop ember

[lavish jay]

ohh okok ty

[drifting quest]

likely yes we just dont know when

could be 1.1, could be 1.2 could be 2.0 or something in a year

[woeful plume]

imo its def the trigger thats getting booted out

rest of the comp is too good

[lavish jay]

do u build pog and ember for this or just leave them at lower levels tho? 🤔

[drifting quest]

pog doesnt need anything he's just there to sprint faster

[runic pewter]

dude how do you use LR. I have her preferred team but I just dont know how to use her

[drifting quest]

ember probably needs some levels but if you're not preinvested in ember just dont bother

[drifting quest]

line up all your buffs on her combo > ult

one tap

dont one tap? bricked the team

[shut cobalt]

alr, so should i level his ancient canal sword or nah?
and what about chen's sword, worth leveling? (also 5*)

[drifting quest]

second rot onwards for last rite is brutal

[lavish jay]

my pog and amber is 60 already with weapons as well so i guess should be ok.. just put some gold set thats not artifice on them im guessing right? cause i was building phys team before i got laev 🤣

[runic pewter]

perlly elec, LR skill, xaihi skill then ult?

[drifting quest]

canal is close enough that it's fine to save the box and invest in it

[outer ermine]

[thorn shore]

chat whatre our thoughts on arclight not getting replaced in 1.1

[shut cobalt]

i c, what about chen's?

[drifting quest]

same deal

[thorn shore]

do i invest into mastery on her skills for more sp gen rn

[shut cobalt]

alr, thanks! thats really all now lol

[drifting quest]

you can leave ember on an unartificed gear set and the rest of her as is
just know the team only works for overworld

you'd want to invest in other units to play the team for harder content

[runic pewter]

What is the harder content

[thin berry]

comming next week

[lime bear]

is this achievement impossible on P0 weapon?

[thorn shore]

its like level 90 bosses except its mob stages with unique modifiers

basically

[manic blade]

yes but u could in theory use a 5*

[lime bear]

yeah no

[sterile herald]

9+9+4

22

u need p3 min

some have overlap in essence

[manic blade]

gotta catch em all

[sterile herald]

see stanza and lae sig

so max ur lae sig essence and slot it in p3 stanza

free achievement

then move it back

[thorn shore]

u would still need to do breakthroughs on the 5 star to unlock some of the skill ranks

which would be crazy mat waste

[sterile herald]

shrug

if you want it you get it

if you don’t you don’t

[lime bear]

whel

[manic blade]

f2p

(forced 2 pay)

[lime bear]

nuh uh

[tranquil burrow]

What’s the 4th trim?

The one that looks like boss trim

[sterile herald]

something for weapons

total skill rank

[thorn shore]

perhaps this one

[manic blade]

p3 weap with 6 6 3 ^

[tranquil burrow]

[sterile herald]

or p5 w 553

😀

[manic blade]

or well p5 with 5 5 3 :3

ya... artificing is gonna be so cooked

[thorn shore]

its a goddamn leviathan!

[tranquil burrow]

You have exactly enough to buy out the gear bps

[lavish jay]

i just realized the weps here is obj and sig, and im currently using rational farewell 🙁 worth to upgrade obj even if its r1? or just keep using my rational farwell r1 at level 60 already? 🤔

[manic blade]

WeGood

[daring dove]

Laevatain seems pretty bad against the 2nd boses, not sure I can be bothered farming his medal when he's so annoying to fight.

[manic blade]

the one dude here cleared with p0 laev wulf akekuri ardelia

[drifting quest]

at p5 with max artificing you don't need obj
p4 or below (and same applies to p5) you can choose whether you want to essence OBJ or artifice gear

[manic blade]

but yeah it is annoying

[modest thorn]

What are the gear options for laeva p5 if I have her weapon p5 as well

[drifting quest]

charge set from pins but change the gloves out to hot work gloves

[modest thorn]

Gotcha thanks

[daring dove]

Yeah, I'm sure it's doable I got the other 2 medals first attempt. I just find it annoying to fight him. Maybe when I'm really really bored I'll have another go.

[shut cobalt]

question, whats the priority of char to invest in? like, da pan, lifeng, pog chen or smth like that?

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

[lavish jay]

im looking at this.. all the green cube one on laev/wulf/ake is this one right? not the crit one right?

[drifting quest]

you want the ultimate gain efficiency

[manic blade]

ake i swear frontier is close

[lavish jay]

so basically none of them have set bonus except ardelia?

[shut cobalt]

?

[drifting quest]

it really isnt

[lavish jay]

so basically for laev, even at p0, u use this set, only when u artifice it max to ultimate gain efficiency on all pieces right?

[drifting quest]

which is better at p0 dependso n content

charge set currently has more content it performs better into

but this can easily change in future patches or future events

[manic blade]

is link that busted? cuz it only applies on laev enhanced skill and frontier hard boost int reducing ake cskill cd

[drifting quest]

if you want to be safe do not artifice yet, simply buy the required materials

[drifting quest]

link, atk buff but mostly more sp

the int is like

5 sp at the most difference, once or twice a fight

the combo cd does nothing you're gated by stagger

[shut cobalt]

?

[daring dove]

One day I'mma definitely work on DPS Ember for the meme's

[lavish jay]

another question, for the other 3, how much do i invest to them? like wulf/ake/ardel? like mine atm is 60/80, and weapons at 60/60, leave it there or upgrade them further?

[manic blade]

i see...

[safe sand]

sounds fine

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[manic blade]

ult shill 0 pc is better than dedicated sets smth wasn't thought out

[drifting quest]

akekuri - ult level 9
ardelia - skill level 9

talent nodes for them all

weapons as long as you have them, maybe some essence for their buff lines

[safe sand]

though imo lifeng miiighttt be a bit better in the long run for investment

depends on if you have his weapons actually

[shut cobalt]

got this one

[safe sand]

ur good then

pog needs the 'minimum' amount for full arts intensity building

[shut cobalt]

u mean good for going for lifeng first or?

[shut cobalt]

i got thermite cutter for him

[safe sand]

what's your end goal here? are you trying to trim a specific boss or

[lavish jay]

ohh thank god i did level those talents to 9, just that i havent gotten the top talent tree cause need e4 which is level 80+ so im guessing i should get them there or nah?

[drifting quest]

depending on which talents you can potentially ignore them

[shut cobalt]

just to prepare for the supposed abyss of this game, its not like i can spend resources elsewhere anyways since my laev is maxed

[lavish jay]

the main stat one on top

[shut cobalt]

even if we gain another good team later on, it will still shill certain teams so

[drifting quest]

the trust nodes? you can ignore them all except laevs

[shut cobalt]

i assume so anyways, since literally every game is like that

[safe sand]

for phys important masteries (and so important characters to promote to elite 4) are pog battle skill/ulti and lifeng battle skill

[drifting quest]

umbral monument needs 1 team

and is very easy

[daring dove]

This will do for Ardelia right, she doesn't really care too much about ultimate gain anyway.

[safe sand]

but my personal pog build being full arts intensity means he does 0 damage

[lavish jay]

for laev on the other hand.. do i actually use those crowns? 🤔 if so which do i prio first, how many crowns for each talent needed

[safe sand]

you can honestly pick and choose, but if you want the quickest improvement investing in crusher is the fastet probably

i just don't like leveling panda

[shut cobalt]

so only m1 i assume from this on pog, and lifeng wants m3 i assume?

[drifting quest]

charge build ult >= skill > combo(m3 only for 1s cooldown) >>> basic
hot work built skill >= ult > combo (as above) >>> basic

[safe sand]

though that's defeinitely a way later problem

remember phys benefits a lot from horizontal investment

[lavish jay]

level them equally?

except for basic

[zenith cave]

Get that at max pot to make sure the bosses don't get to do anything

[drifting quest]

depends on crown income, shouldnt really matter
combo skill is premium
biggest gains are going from sl9 to m3

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks!

[daring dove]

Btw is the reason we use off-set pieces on Akekuri because she can't trigger this anyway?

[safe sand]

@drifting quest can you think of any characters where batk is worth going for masteries on

[drifting quest]

and there's always another xiranite holder

[lavish jay]

so basically ulti + skill only, rest is just bonus yeah?

[drifting quest]

yvonne, technically?

[daring dove]

Ok then just gotta fix this fraud then I'm good to go.

[safe sand]

interesting

[next helm]

2 more days till gilberta sig

[safe sand]

do you think it's worth doing for lifeng in phys teams

[manic blade]

uneccesary ahh farming

[next helm]

Hope I get more than 1 6 star weapon

[drifting quest]

probably not until we get a lot more crowns, then maybe for finisher multiplier

[ripe parrot]

is there a resource/site for looking at skill levels? I want to see a couple of masteries past m1

[daring dove]

I wonder if Akekuri will be as good as she was in beta 2 once she's all artificed up.

[torn raft]

Rossi will be beta akekuri

[drifting quest]

talos wiki

[torn raft]

If there was a better akekuri would you run both?

[daring dove]

I'm thinking Wulfguard loses his spot on the team before Akekuri we'll see though.

Maybe content dependant.

[ripe parrot]

no, i feel like wulf is way more core than ake unless we get a better applier

[daring dove]

But yeah I'm really hoping Laevatain's team gets a nice buff with the next batch of characters.

[ripe parrot]

also wulf's upper limit is way higher because (theoretically) you can go solo wulf applier and have him solo charge laev ult with artificing

[daring dove]

Hopefully they don't go down the path of just releasing a ton of ice supports to bring Yvonne's performance upto Lavetains. That would be a bit tiresome.

[lavish jay]

so basically like this for ultimate gain efficiency? the other 2 stats do i upgrade them later or just leave it for now? 🤔

[daring dove]

I'm toying with swapping to full ult gain on my Laevatain even though she's P5.

People say 75% is enough though, sometimes I feel she's a little off getting full ult.

[midnight stirrup]

Yo question whats the difference between purple and gold etchings that makes gold better? More slots?

[daring dove]

You mean essences?

I don't think you can upgrade the purple ones no?

[lavish jay]

i dont think u can

[torn raft]

U can get a really good base purple tho

[urban plaza]

You can't, correct

[torn raft]

So u can maybe use some of them instead of a gold for a bit lol

[daring dove]

I wish you could my Ardelia is rocking this...

[urban plaza]

Especially for supports a strong skill purple is way more useful than some additional points in whatever base stat

[ripe parrot]

purple cope essences are really good for supports if you are currently in poverty

[torn raft]

Wait that weapon has all attribute buff

Jesus

[ripe parrot]

lifeng eating good

[torn raft]

I got a bunch of valiants so cant justify pulling that weapon

Or any of the base sigs really lmao

[safe sand]

p1 bearer

[torn raft]

They are stingy on weapons

[ripe parrot]

honestly mountain bearer is really insane

[daring dove]

I just can't justifty using Lifeng

[ripe parrot]

so unless you have like p5 valiant or something i dunno

[torn raft]

If i use selector it's a p3 i think

Future sig banners will have more valiants so no lifeng sig for a while

[lavish jay]

uhh is it more efficient to bring the ulti to m3 first or get skill to m2 as well? i dont have enough of the crowns lol

[torn raft]

Only for the whales or true lifeng enjoyers

[ripe parrot]

majority of your dmg is in ulti so you might as well wait for m3

[lavish jay]

yeah i can get it to m3, its just that i can get m3 or get the skill to m2 as well

[ripe parrot]

if you can m3 + m1 do that

[lavish jay]

yeah i can

thats exactly the amount i have i think

[safe sand]

is the swordmancer set proccing

i did significantly more stagger on the second battle skill

[ripe parrot]

try comparing as point unit

[midnight stirrup]

Oh I see

Thanks

And yea I meant essences

[daring dove]

Yeah purples would honestly be better than golds if you could upgrade them considering how many drop

Sadly no dice.

[safe sand]

second battle skill has 3 visible numbers and more stagger yea

[midnight stirrup]

When do you use the figure of speech no dice

[safe sand]

wtf is going on

[midnight stirrup]

Ive seen it a lot but idk when u use it

Is it no luck

[torn raft]

Ye

[midnight stirrup]

I see

Interesting

[torn raft]

If u try to do something and fail

Something like that

[midnight stirrup]

Good to know

[valid zealot]

Small indie company

[midnight stirrup]

God im so hyped for new patch

With the funds theyve gotten so far

Although that patch has probably been prepared for a while now

[safe sand]

ok so it seems like maybe what's happening is the internal timer starts when you enter combat ON COOLDOWN

[ripe parrot]

isn't that cd like 15s though

[safe sand]

yeah..

[torn raft]

the core gameplay is fun so there can be a lot done for this game

[safe sand]

it also seems to not proc when you aplpy the iniital stack

only when you add to existing stacks

[torn raft]

though it's a tragedy that it seems there's a good amount of people not interfacing with factory

[midnight stirrup]

Housing take it or leave it

[ripe parrot]

i would be more mad if i were still running swordmancer on chen

[torn raft]

[daring dove]

Crazy to think Laevatain's time in the sun will have soon passed. Where have those couple of weeks gone.

[midnight stirrup]

True

Release feels like 3 days ago

[torn raft]

I remember waiting on release date now we're gonna hit 2nd banner

[safe sand]

ok no wait im back to being confused af again ugh

[valid zealot]

After entering rhod stage stay still a little.

[midnight stirrup]

Do your 2 pulls

[safe sand]

how is lifeng getting 4 damage numbers here

[midnight stirrup]

[chilly bolt]

Rip to those that couldn't 120 pulls in time

[daring dove]

I have all 5* operators maxed did since the 2nd day of beta.

[valid zealot]

Base dmg swordmancer knockdown talent

[safe sand]

oh right talent

[midnight stirrup]

Idc do it anyway

[safe sand]

this broken ass character bro

[torn raft]

time to reroll for surtr on gilberta banner

I know someone who hit surtr + gilberta and still wanted to reroll

[next helm]

Is perlica actually a good unit

[safe sand]

let me just wait for like 40s

[next helm]

or just an electric slot rn

[valid zealot]

No before he jumps.

Just stay.

[weak meteor]

i would say so

[torn raft]

she's in last rite team

[valid zealot]

[safe sand]

and see if swordmancer procs on the first chen battle skill?

[torn raft]

and you can put her on the bridge for mood recovery

[drifting quest]

0sp arts buff + arts unit holder

[valid zealot]

No, ofc it does not.

[drifting quest]

replaced very quickly by more specialised units or a better generic

[valid zealot]

First skill is not status application

[next helm]

Thought so

What is holding her back from her sp being useful?

[safe sand]

oh you're just trying to see if entering the area itself is resetting the timer for some reason instead of being combat related?

[shut cobalt]

who do u want to control in this?

pog?

[valid zealot]

Yeah no just figuring out why your first try did not work.

[safe sand]

i think it is

i waited for ~1min

[daring dove]

I'm a big fan of Ardelia's P5 after testing it today anyway. With ideal play you shouldn't need it. But there's so many times when the reduced CD & Corrioson application time has helped.

[valid zealot]

Just don't stay in Dijang

[safe sand]

yep

[ripe parrot]

honestly i think pog point is a trap but it probably depends on how you've raised your characters

[safe sand]

im not 😭

[ripe parrot]

i run chen but that's only because i do chen solo runs on the side

[high finch]

@ocean hawk here's what support answered btw

[shut cobalt]

wdym with "pog point"?

[safe sand]

point = chara you control batk with

[shut cobalt]

ohh, got it thanks

[valid zealot]

Staying in dijang forces swordmancer go on cd when battle start.

For some reason.

Cuz your character wasn't checked.

[ripe parrot]

it's probably just whoever has the highest attack value + highest auto attack skill level

it's unlikely that it's pog since you're most likely running him as ult gain + art intensity

[valid zealot]

It's for sp regen something something but I don't like him winding up the whip to whoop ass

So no point pog.

[ripe parrot]

it's not like he gets more sp regen from his final strike

[valid zealot]

But it procs sp regen effect, they say.

[chilly bolt]

Stagger does matter

Use the one that does more stagger

[safe sand]

im just chillin in wuling rn

idk

[ripe parrot]

it's barely any noticeable difference

it's ~2 stagger every final strike

[weak meteor]

and its 10 stagger if you get 5 finals off

[safe sand]

but like

you also don't want to be running a character that spams long ass skills as point

[ripe parrot]

that's literally one chen proc

except it's 5 auto combos

[weak meteor]

but its one chen proc with the additoinal 10 stagger

[ripe parrot]

in a trimmed run, that 10 stagger won't matter unless you're actually calcing stagger breakpoints

[safe sand]

ok if you're going down this route then you'd have to start considering optimal stagger/s given good animation dodge cancels

[ripe parrot]

which i know most of you aren't

[valid zealot]

Also you have to actively swap for finisher

which is one more work and I don't like it

[ripe parrot]

but yeah long skill animations are a consideration which is why you can troll as lifeng sometimes

[daring dove]

I really hope we get full access to Wulling in 1.1 update anyway.

[ocean hawk]

so, they didnt confirm anything about the current meaning but confirm that it was a bad word choice that creates confusion

[safe sand]

i just batk as endmin and switch to lifeng for finishers

[weak meteor]

i think its better to do more 2% more stagger than 2% more damage

tbh

[safe sand]

unless you're hitting a breakpoint faster stagger doesn't matter

[ripe parrot]

yes if and only if you reach your next stagger threshold before your next rotation

[ocean hawk]

but still, support answering that so fast regarding damage mechanics is good

[ripe parrot]

otherwise it's useless

[weak meteor]

well yeah but you shuold be able to with the additional stagger

[daring dove]

We likely won't be to honest, I imagine each region will take 3-4 updates to complete

[ripe parrot]

the biggest reason you would run higher stagger would be for solo comfort because you don't to combo chain bosses to stagger oblivion as a solo unit

[chilly bolt]

Chen Pog and Lifeng all have about the same stagger per second (chen is slightly higher than other 2), endmin has the lowest sps out of them.

[tranquil burrow]

So do you guys memorize rotations and trust the process or react and make decisions in real time during combat? I can't get a feel for how combat should be played in endgame

[valid zealot]

Get the basics down.

You don't f up as easily as other games.

[weak meteor]

you should follow a rotation and make decisions when something goes wrong

[ripe parrot]

no rotation is hard enough to stop doing because you have a lot of leeway with buffs/debuffs/etc

[modest thorn]

who will most likely be replaced first on the physical team?

[weak meteor]

or if something doesnt follow the script

[ripe parrot]

speculating hard but maybe chen

[valid zealot]

Vuln eater.

[ripe parrot]

she's very good as a staple but she doesn't do anything beyond being a vuln applicator

[ocean hawk]

noooo, my dumb girl

[ripe parrot]

but like she is really good

[chilly bolt]

Well if you know about cancel animation, it's the thing you want to master for endgame

[ripe parrot]

for how simple she is lmao

[ocean hawk]

tbh, her bs and combo reaction time is fast

while the other two, dapan and lifeng need to wind up

just for apply vuln

[weak meteor]

until you accidentally animation cancel your combo with dodge

[valid zealot]

Skill issue.

[ripe parrot]

lifeng bs interrupt is actually good

since the first hit still interrupts

it's just bad on certain bosses that walk away (aka everyone that isn't rhod)

sometimes***

[ocean hawk]

its sooo bad on doritos

[weak meteor]

bosses wont have a chance to walk away though if they get interrupted

[safe sand]

mfw i spend 100 sp slamming my spear on bare ground (boss moved away 3 seconds ago)

[ripe parrot]

doritos when it has an un-interruptable teleport:

[weak meteor]

except that thing

[shut cobalt]

what should u choose for the multiple option ones on all 4 chars? (phys) like the glove on lifeng, etc

[weak meteor]

but the fat one and the woman its fair game

[ocean hawk]

the lifeng one is the potential reason iirc

[ripe parrot]

depends on your artificing/weapon set. check the notes on that doc for more info

[ocean hawk]

if u has pot 4+

u can use specific sets

just read the notes

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[daring dove]

Phy team is basically the husbando squad rn.

[weak meteor]

husband chen

[ocean hawk]

what about chen

ah

[midnight stirrup]

@twilit quail iana youve been working on laev rots right? Do you happen to know the rot of laev antal wulf akehuri if shes p5? And if it doesnt change anything whats the regular rot

If you dont wanna think about it now dw its not a necessity rn

[daring dove]

Just replace her with Antal an you're fully husbando'ed up.

[sterile patrol]

he can apply phys and run stanza after all...

[ocean hawk]

then its not mono phys anymore

[sterile patrol]

darn

[weak meteor]

just remove chen

[unborn kernel]

do you 100% have too power ziplines like is there no way to make them work without relay towers????

[ocean hawk]

pray in the next region, we will have that technologia

[ripe parrot]

holy pogranichnikchamp

what an upgrade

[valid zealot]

Pog

[ocean hawk]

now u can get that trimmed 25 weapon skill emblem

[valid zealot]

How come all my usable stuffs are +1/+1/+1

[ripe parrot]

me hitting etch pity on every upgrade

[terse furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[weak meteor]

that screenshot is a little wide

[indigo lava]

sup sup, trying to decide between p3 lifeng or p1 pog with my 6 star selector, is it worth? or just go for a 6 star i dont have

playing mainly phys team

[ripe parrot]

okay is this better

[ocean hawk]

p3 lifeng

[weak meteor]

id say go for a 6 star that you dont have but min max potentials pretty good too

[terse furnace]

It's up to you, but between P3 Lifeng and P1 Pog, I'd go for Lifeng

I'm personally someone who prefers getting a brand new copy of a character first, but it's up to you

[ocean hawk]

oh, is there any benefit to collect all standard char first

[weak meteor]

thanks i can see that better now

[ripe parrot]

waifu collection

[terse furnace]

Collection purposes and pfps lol

[indigo lava]

mm im a dopamine junky so pulling a new character is my lifeblood

[ocean hawk]

ah

[terse furnace]

[ripe parrot]

me when i have two accounts and both of them are hitting hard etch pity

[weak meteor]

two accounts

[ripe parrot]

f2p chen solo account and my actual account

[weak meteor]

ohh

i thought both were fully managed

[ripe parrot]

my F2P account insanely blessed though because it has p1 lifeng and pog

uhh my main account is on maintenance mode lol

since i did all trims on it

so i'm logging in for daily stocks/depots/wuling stuff

[weak meteor]

so youre going around the globe to place relays the second time

[ripe parrot]

if you just make like 100 relays at the start it's as fast as doing the story

the worst part is waiting for your outposts to level since you literally make more than they can even buy

[weak meteor]

damn

thats tuff

[ripe parrot]

also t-creds

you are living in complete poverty the entire time

[weak meteor]

at least everything is going into one operator

[ripe parrot]

yeah pretty much

the grind to operator level 90 was pretty rough though

i do have my phys team setup to level 60 just so that i can grind mats and stuff faster

i want the rhod trim medal so bad on chen but i am waiting on etch/artifice to bless me

[weak meteor]

trim chen solo?

[ripe parrot]

yes

doable for rhod

[weak meteor]

damn

i wanna do endmin solo but endmin alone just doesnt work

actually i did do endmin solo and it took 323 seconds

[halcyon aurora]

so what's the "most optimal route" when it comes to trying to artifice gear?
cuz rn I'm just crafting the same gear type and feeding it but it's quite slow

[chilly bolt]

Craft good match gears for artificing 2nd stat

[halcyon aurora]

cuz now I'm just realizing how much resources I gotta invest just for 1 max artificing stat

[ripe parrot]

if you are stacking stats on different gear pieces, I like rouletting them until they are on the same tier and then move onto the next artifice step

[bold rose]

can someone eli5 the logic of perlica in LR team?

[chilly bolt]

Perlica combo applies electrification

That's it

[weak meteor]

and ult sometimes

[daring dove]

Should I swap P5 Laevatain over to more ultimate gain or will it not make a difference?

[bold rose]

why would I not use say Gil + Flourite then

[dry kindle]

No diff

[chilly bolt]

Flourite issue is long cd like you just get 4 cryo stack in one rotation and then never again, idk much about ange so cant really tell

[dry kindle]

Elec and stanza bot

[covert sequoia]

hello, what website is this?

[bold rose]

then why would I not use Gil as stanza bot

[ripe parrot]

check pinned doc

[summer flower]

Who likes to use white ice Nova?

[peak fulcrum]

Has anybody done Ember solos, if so what is the general consensus on Sundered Prince vs Exemplar assuming both weapons are pot 0 and all skills are at level 9
I have a feeling Exemplar might actually be better because of the big Physical Damage boosts and the base 39% ATK boost on secondary stat which might beat out the ATK boost on Sundered Prince's ability as well as how useless +19% crit feels. This is going off the logic that in a solo, I'd be spamming m1s quite a bit and the finishers has a big multiplier that does physical damage. And since it's Ember that means you will be using the finisher a bit more often than usual since she does pretty high stagger damage?
Personally have not run the numbers yet but just a thought

[bold rose]

no one rn
it's like what
Laev's 3rd tier weap?

[chilly bolt]

People that dont have surtr sig yet

[summer flower]

Ehh

I'm Getting copies of it

[bold rose]

even then there's the BP sword

[summer flower]

I have it tho

[dry kindle]

Because she cant

[peak fulcrum]

oh and the fact that Exemplar's ATK +39% is higher than Sundered Prince's +32% ATK ability, at max essence pot 0

[valid zealot]

Gather duster.

[covert sequoia]

ty ty

[dry kindle]

Ult applies nature inflict

[valid zealot]

Dust gatherer.

[bold rose]

we're talking in LR team no?

[chilly bolt]

What does stanza mean

[dry kindle]

Yes

[bold rose]

so why can't Gil be Stanza bot for LR

[crude crag]

LR team use yvonne, because LR need cyro inflict

[dry kindle]

Because nature inflict

[bold rose]

then that's an Yvonne team

not a LR team

[crude crag]

nope, yvonne support

[drifting quest]

clueless

[crude crag]

clueless

[dry kindle]

Lr team does not use fuckin Yvonne

[drifting quest]

baits come full circle

[vagrant sparrow]

can you buy never rest from the arsenal shop or do i just settle with thermite cutter

[dry kindle]

No

[drifting quest]

you cannot buy never rest from arsenal shop directly

but thermite is better

prydwen is wrong

[vagrant sparrow]

i see

[tranquil burrow]

They might show up in the distant future maybe

[drifting quest]

not just there, with a lot of things

[peak fulcrum]

oh so the standard 6 star sigs dont appear in the weekly rotation?

[crude crag]

i bet u guys do not know that cyro infliction comsumption bug from yvonne and LR

[vagrant sparrow]

thermite it is

[crude crag]

i bet u guys do not even have LR and yvonne, clueless

either that or never even test

[bold rose]

still don't understand
you said Perlica is in LR team because she's Stanza bot
but Stanza buffs ops of different element than the wielder

[ripe parrot]

honestly it just comes out to 56% atk dmg vs 39% atk dmg + 28% phys dmg dealt

[vagrant sparrow]

is there somewhere i can read about characters bis weapons and stuff like that?

[crude crag]

LR scales with cyro infliction, why would u want an electric operator in a cyro team

[dry kindle]

And?

[drifting quest]

pins

[dry kindle]

Oh for fuck sake

[bold rose]

cryo infliction in LR team is Xaihi's job

[drifting quest]

perlica combo does not apply electric infliction

gilberta ult does apply nature infliction

[ripe parrot]

from what I remember, phys dmg is less valuable because it gets devalued?

[crude crag]

yvonne can cyro inflict as well

[drifting quest]

any non cryo infliction will reset your cryo infliction stacks to 0

and hence gut your last rite damage

[crude crag]

^

finally someone understands

[dry kindle]

This is live

Not cbt2

[chilly bolt]

What's the bug?

[crude crag]

i didnt say its cbt2

[crude crag]

finally someone asks, i was wondering when someone asks

[dry kindle]

🗿

[crude crag]

yvonne and LR consumption does not count as consumption, u only need to activate once

if u r fast enough, it counts as 2 consumption

[drifting quest]

didnt that get patched like day 1

[valid zealot]

It's cbt2 and ppl act like boomer.

[peak fulcrum]

right now I'm seeing 39% ATK + 64% Phys Damage vs 32% ATK, again, at pot 0 level 80 max essence so like 9/9/4

[valid zealot]

I cant

[crude crag]

do not make me test it again =,=

[drifting quest]

i know the laev one is patched

i assume they all got patched

[dry kindle]

Anyway

[bold rose]

but if you proc Perlica combo it inflicts electricfication
wouldn't adding any cryo infliction on top of that creates elec infliction too

[peak fulcrum]

but grabbing exemplar would be gambling on the fact that I'd never get Sundered Prince pot 2 in the foreseeable future

[dry kindle]

Yvonne has no cryo inflict

[dry kindle]

Bruh

Just

Go run the comp yourself

[drifting quest]

electrification is a reaction
reactions and inflictions can coexist

[peak fulcrum]

Exemplar ability does stack up to 3 times so thats why it goes up to 64, being 16+16*3

[bold rose]

oh nvm I got it backwards

infliction + infliction = reaction

misread shit

[daring dove]

Thinikng about it from an standpoint of efficiency I bet this is the best piece of Akekuri & other supports.... Since its ultimate gain is only marginally lower but you an upgrade it with good match each time? I Reckon recommending Redeemer Seal maybe a bit misguided?

[drifting quest]

you want the higher value

[bold rose]

doesn't Ake want Frontiers + Xiranite armor

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463293215301042236/1469029799669403720/image.png?ex=69862c1d&is=6984da9d&hm=21cc044fe319267ebeb8acfc052640dc8b84308afcfffc94e19e4214e255538d&

[dry kindle]

Xira gloves

[next helm]

Is this like a story event or something

or literally an error for the date

[dry kindle]

Yes

[drifting quest]

gilberta story quest

up tomorrow

[next helm]

So her story quest comes 1 day earlier

than her event and banner

[drifting quest]

her banner is at the same time

[torn raft]

I mean yvonne story quest is out

[drifting quest]

maybe it is a day early

[next helm]

Her banner is on the 7th

[daring dove]

Yeah but I don't think there's a fixed breakpoint you need an it'll likely save you a million wulling credits in the long run.

[bold rose]

so if you run LR Xaihi Perlica who's slot 4

[drifting quest]

there's several fixed breakpoints AND you save a marginal amount of credits

[chilly bolt]

Yeah for promotion

[bold rose]

Ake needs 500 int right?

[drifting quest]

needs? no

[daring dove]

Is it a breakpoint you want hit with 1% less ultimate gain?

[chilly bolt]

Eyja

[bold rose]

who's Eyja
srsly yall need to stop using AK names not every EF player plays AK

[ripe parrot]

ardelia

[chilly bolt]

Then they should

[drifting quest]

the ~2.5% lost can knock her below a breakpoint, especially if doing fortmaker stuff

[bold rose]

yes but that's not the point

[ripe parrot]

i'm still 45s off trim bwuh

this is such a long road ahead

[valid zealot]

Marble?

[ripe parrot]

rhod

solo chen

[valid zealot]

[drifting quest]

like sure go for power core if you want

you'll save maybe a couple taps

[valid zealot]

Why you hate urself

[chilly bolt]

Lol sorry im just a bit biased with ak, it's just faster to type eyja

[ripe parrot]

chen is fun

eyja = arde

[bold rose]

I mean yeah I play AK since day 1 of EN server too

[ripe parrot]

just shorten it the same way

[next helm]

perlica = fumo

[bold rose]

but like it confuses others

[drifting quest]

i mean this is tc

not like its help

[bold rose]

avy = savage

change my mind

[drifting quest]

new players shouldnt really be in here trying to get help for basic stuff

[valid zealot]

Elite ball council.

[drifting quest]

so using old ak names is like fine

[valid zealot]

im not part of it

[drifting quest]

if this were a help channel then sure

[ripe parrot]

i mean people can be in TC without having playing the OG arknights so it should just be more clear to everyone if we refer to reconveners as their actual operator names

it's not like it's hurting anyone to use their real codenames lol

[drifting quest]

its a matter of preference

[next helm]

People can be in tc without being smart

<-

[drifting quest]

can vs should

[bold rose]

case in point
my dumbass

[drifting quest]

it takes 1 extra line of text to clarify

the channel as a whole is more laid back

[chilly bolt]

Like if you say arde it would take me another 0.5s to realise it's eyja

[valid zealot]

Idk I think you should play more endfield.

[bold rose]

laev < surtr
arde = eyja
gil < ange
every EF name abbreviation is shorter than AK

[ripe parrot]

consider the opposite: new guy who likes to sweat in EF sees someone type "eyja"

1. they ask who is eyja and we get this convo
2. they look it up themselves and waste at like like 5-20s of their life

[drifting quest]

gilb

[weak meteor]

i will forever call gil angelina because i cant pronounce her ef name

[valid zealot]

Skill issue.

[ripe parrot]

gliborta

[bold rose]

I know some FGO mfs sees gil and think of that obnoxious goldy

[next helm]

gilby

[bold rose]

gabby

[drifting quest]

laev = surt
arde = eyja
gilb = ange
pog < hellagur
snowshine > aurora

basically equal

[next helm]

I call pog hellapog

[drifting quest]

depends entirely on preference

[next helm]

cause he is

hella pog

[weak meteor]

i still call chen chen

[bold rose]

yes but no one uses snowshine

[torn raft]

I havent seen hellagur used thankfully

[ripe parrot]

guyz my team is floaty funny vacuum girl, wolf dante from devil may cry, man lizard, and woman lizard any tips??????

[next helm]

Chen is not from rhodes island

is she not a reconvener?

[weak meteor]

no

[ripe parrot]

nope

[drifting quest]

chen is a descendant (implied)

[weak meteor]

shes the 20th generation down

[next helm]

Damn

[bold rose]

doesn't her mother literally have chi xiao

[next helm]

we could get chen on chen action

[drifting quest]

its assumed her mother is the current wielder of chi xiao

so that's going to be a fun plotline

[next helm]

Chen alter 2

[weak meteor]

and her father is a random farmer

[dry kindle]

Nothing ever happens

[bold rose]

serious ch'en vs zero braincells chen is gonna be hilarious

[next helm]

Wait

[weak meteor]

i heard wulfgard is a texas descent but idk i skipped everything

[next helm]

Does Swire have rock cancer

[weak meteor]

no

[bold rose]

no

[bold rose]

the pack are siracusan descendants

[next helm]

I am in unbelievable pain

[weak meteor]

yeah but i saw like very specfici details

like

th eears

actually

you sohuld forget everything i said

[drifting quest]

this implies it wont be a 'like mother like daughter' situation

[broken locust]

Is this actually worth it?

[drifting quest]

??

[bold rose]

??

[weak meteor]

if

youre doing pog damage i guess

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-fazbear-freddy-thrust-is-a-must-fredrick-fazlington-gif-15921407356621323037

[broken locust]

Yes, main dps

[bold rose]

hmm
if I'm switching thermal cutter over to pog what should I put on ake

[ripe parrot]

maybe fortmaker

[weak meteor]

i would still suggest having a set bonus

[bold rose]

obj?

[civic rover]

I mastery ult next?

[dry kindle]

😭

[broken locust]

I know, but with Will scalling is very hard to gain significant damage outside skill damge. Like avywenna. I would sacrifice the set bonus for 1000 more attack. The Pog has 6148 ATK.

[drifting quest]

slabge

[chilly bolt]

Did you accidentally M1 basic attacks?

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[broken locust]

I'm gonna go ask on team-build.

[ripe parrot]

honestly, with will scaling and if you're going pog damage, that might actually be an ideal build lol

[bold rose]

I accidentally M1 Laev combo

so now I'm having to M12

[weak meteor]

yeah its quite hard to stcak his damage with the current amoutn fo set effects so i guess

[outer ermine]

it was meant to be

[weak meteor]

now that im looking at it

[ripe parrot]

pain

[weak meteor]

swipe the pain away

[tranquil burrow]

You can get 1 from Gilberta's trial tomorrow

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[ripe parrot]

oh sweet

[dry kindle]

Oh fml

I forgot to do survey

Rip tcreds

[bold rose]

Laev pots aren't that impactful right?

[tranquil burrow]

I've got 1.1 mil t-creds, I'm richie rich rn

[ripe parrot]

if you're desperate you can do basic training/operator guides for more t-creds

which was what i did

[dry kindle]

Not enough for 1 operator

[tranquil burrow]

I mean my main team is already built

90/80/80/80

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[tranquil burrow]

No I just bought out Valley shop by not being a clown and refreshing for Wuling jobs every day for 3 hours

[next helm]

My ST team is like lvl 60's with lvl 1 weapons