#theorycrafting

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fleet heron
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I thought he’d be good because of his short combo skill cooldown so lots of skill points and a attack buff since I have him at potential 3, the cyro infliction on ult for more combusts

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That was my logic at least

terse furnace
fleet heron
terse furnace
trim sierra
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skill prio for pog was not indicated in the docs-sheet, any knowers?

normal tangle
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people actually use wulf to detonate combustion?

valid zealot
fleet heron
terse furnace
valid zealot
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Generally electric goes with themselves or with heat, ice goes with themselves or phys.

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Nature are cutie, they go where they please.

terse furnace
dry kindle
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Woe

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Stanza be upon ye

bronze plume
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my follow people

dapper nacelle
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Would Chimeric Justice or Pathfinder's Beacon be better for Lifeng? I don't have a lot of spear options for him

bronze plume
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i am now at p1 ardelia

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this is a W

valid zealot
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I thought u p5.

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Fake.

bronze plume
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why would i do that

proper walrus
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Its the clear time

valid zealot
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You don't appear genuiely wise.

fleet heron
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I did have one more question. I actually have Poggy, and Lifeng. I was wondering if it’s possible to do the physical team without Chen? I was thinking of replacing her with Catcher or Ember. Last slot going to panda or endmin.

valid zealot
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Chen stays.

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Free invul on easiest combo imaginable.

manic blade
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this and also frontiers vs ult gain akekuri

valid zealot
fleet heron
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I just got lifeng from the selector so I actually haven’t played him yet. Just read his skills and I thought he might be a good enough replacement for vulnerability stacking alongside Ember/Carcher but in practice they can’t replace her huh?

valid zealot
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Ember not that good until you're really into big boobs woman wearing solid metal gear.

chilly basin
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whats the best set for pog

dry kindle
outer ermine
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pins and get ready to read

chilly basin
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i see a few that could like

strong warren
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best pulling strategy?

chilly basin
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ah damn theres a whole doc

strong warren
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that isnt save 120

valid zealot
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There're 2 pins and 1 is meme.

ebon thicket
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What stats to artifice for laevetain? Intellect, battle skill dmg, heat dmg, or ult regen?

thorn shore
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Heat dmg probably makes most sense, don’t ever artifice ult regen

thorn shore
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You already hit the breakpoint without artificing it

dry kindle
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No

strong warren
frozen tide
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what does getting operator trust past 100 do

valid zealot
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Lore.

dry kindle
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Lore and stuff

frozen tide
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ic

outer ermine
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PerliFumo nice p5 lr art

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worth

thorn shore
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Side note I love the ult system

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And how we gain it being so predictable

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Really fun to work with

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I need x% ult regen to get x ult on x skill of x rotation

lime bear
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what's the best spot to farm meat fillets

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need a lot

outer ermine
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^meat, theres a few more spots that it doesnt cover but its fine

valid zealot
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ginsengmaxxing

thorn shore
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Farming dogs 🥀

lime bear
outer ermine
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wdym u dont have 500 meat rn PerliStareYou

stoic ruin
thorn shore
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Dog eater

nova lance
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Wuts the endgame mode next week?

dry kindle
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Its not endgame

nova lance
valid zealot
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A walk in the park.

sand pike
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Is Lifeng dead without sig/valiant 💀

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Like are there no other weapon options on him

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Rn I'm just running the Xiranite ult spam set for him cause I don't have either

valid zealot
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No weap = ult bot.

sand pike
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Dang 💀

hidden lantern
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Does the Ult at least look cool and bearable?

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Sounds like you’ll be watching Lifeng ult a lot kekw

sand pike
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Lifeng ult is indeed cool

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Probably the coolest ult in the game rn ngl

celest carbon
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does anyone here know how akekuri's link applies to ults that are batk enhancers?

sand pike
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You mean if it snapshots or not?

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I've been wondering that as well

sand pike
valid zealot
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His ult is great

cinder dagger
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uh... for people with lifeng is he useless without the 6 star weapons? cause i can pick jet but its not even rec for him it seems? saw that the justice one gos against his very system?

valid zealot
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Cuz he's free from doing any animation after the ult scene.

sand pike
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Jet is for avy

valid zealot
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Something else does it for him

sand pike
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Jet on Lifeng is doodoo

cinder dagger
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guess im saving that weapon box still

lost heart
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How does lifeng's use change once you get his dupe 1?
Or is it similar but just more forgiving if you mess up rotation?

cinder dagger
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damn getting ember twice making mistake early game getting the mc weapon blah.. too far to reroll but so many mistakes and bad rng really sucks T.T

lost heart
valid zealot
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Ult first into skill for more energy without wasting phys susc.

cinder dagger
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from what i seen people say ember is like... worst gacha char to get in gacha game history book levels like neko from zzz or saber lily from fate/go so im like damn.

valid zealot
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She looks great.

cinder dagger
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she looks cool as f

lost heart
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I don't think ember is terrible

celest carbon
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cant you make a stagger build around her?

lost heart
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she has been pretty useful for me

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but if you play the game as intended she may not be as valuable to you

dry kindle
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Useful if you can't dodge for whatever reason

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About it

lost heart
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how do i teach them to dodge

cinder dagger
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to be fair i find it hard to dodge some moves. if the effects are too much

lost heart
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🙏

dry kindle
cinder dagger
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but its like why use ember when you can use mc or dan pan i think i was told?

dry kindle
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Or just solo

split gust
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who needs their Sig weapon more? Pogra or Lifeng? I currently have Fortmaker on Pogra and Chimeric Justice on Lifeng 💀 (planning to get their weap but not sure who to prioritize first)

dry kindle
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Lifeng

lost heart
safe sand
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lifeng >>>

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think of him like a mdps

celest carbon
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lifeng

sand pike
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Lifeng has no good non 6* options

cinder dagger
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ugh... i got f hard

celest carbon
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valiant is in shop rotation rn

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maybe it's time to build my lifeng

cinder dagger
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screw it im going have ot do some pulls to get the weapon tokens

safe sand
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you can wait

sand pike
cinder dagger
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i dont think i can?

valid zealot
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Valiant not that good vro.

safe sand
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mp are you asia server

sand pike
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Gonna get it when I get home from work

celest carbon
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asia server yeah

safe sand
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na/eu will have it next reset then

lost heart
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I would get vliant but I want to get sig for lifeng

split gust
celest carbon
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how much better is his signature anyway?

wild meteor
lost heart
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i dont really know

safe sand
cinder dagger
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if only i waited... legit one day i could had gotten that for him

safe sand
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either way you want a 6star weapon for lifeng to be usable in the first place imo

celest carbon
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ill just get valiant after my gilberta pulls ig

split gust
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should I get Exemplar for Da Pan? or just get Jet for Avy? I'm currently using Ancient Canal on him. (I also have 2 unused Sundered Prince in my account 💀 )

safe sand
dry kindle
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Just get det

split gust
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I already own 1 Det

ornate basalt
safe sand
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hm

dry kindle
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Then jet probs

safe sand
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da pan is fine with canal

celest carbon
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up to you on what team you wanna build

dry kindle
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Just hold it till fangyi drops

split gust
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thanks guys ❤️

cinder dagger
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i guess i just have to give up on a phy team since i didnt get lifeng a 6 star spear? really love the lift system it helps so much when fighting annyoing mobs who just have super armor for no reason

sand pike
safe sand
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the thing with lifeng in phys without good weapons is that your damage outside of big crush burst moments becomes really ass

sand pike
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Can run Chimeric Justice on him if you have to cope 💀

wild meteor
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I have both lifeng and pog now thanks to the selector today.

I'm two pulls to the laevatain box and I'm wondering if I shld get valiant from lifeng or if I shld just get his Sig instead . I redeemed thermite cutter from the new horizons banner

cinder dagger
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oh ya almost forgot dan pan is max out and chen has 2 dupes

split gust
safe sand
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thing is you might as well run shatter at that point

sand pike
cinder dagger
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is there.. like a training room area i can fight a mob and test stuff out or something?

split gust
safe sand
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archer do you have an invested lifeng w/ sig

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wondering how much atk i should be expecting before buffs

safe sand
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tragic

sand pike
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Don't ask me for actual proper TC advice, I'm just regurgitating what the pins in build says 💀

safe sand
sand pike
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I still haven't seen the doc's basis for the energy breakpoints mentioned PerliWheeze

wild meteor
sand pike
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But honestly if you're strapped for Arsenal tickets buying Valiant is a more cost-effective choice from the guides I've seen

cinder dagger
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if only i had save up the weapon tokkens and iddnt waste it on that mc weapon thinknig it was good for chen ughhhh T.T

safe sand
wild meteor
sand pike
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At worst you'll end up having to spend ~16000 Arsenal tickets for a weapon that's not even going to a MDPS

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Compared to just spending 2000 for another weapon that's only like 5% weaker

wild meteor
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Is lifeng not the mdps?

celest carbon
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it's usually panda or endmin that does the dmg

sand pike
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Da Pan/Endmin's crush will be doing most of the chunk of the damage

sand pike
dry kindle
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Idk phys timeline so

safe sand
proper walrus
safe sand
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yes but it gives link which is arguably better

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you recoup the energy you're using to spam the skill via pog

cinder dagger
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what team would you even use with lifeng like pog is a must i guess right? but would you use dan pan chen? the mc i know is only for free 2 play so its pointless on that and you could even use ember? but... ??

dusk zenith
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does p1 lifeng warrant any rot adjustments in endmin/pog:m/chen

safe sand
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mc has better burst damage but panda has way comfier stack building

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but yeah premium phys is [crusher] chen pog lifeng

proper walrus
cinder dagger
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oooh..

celest carbon
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is link always +20% ult dmg/+30% skill dmg or does it vary?

cinder dagger
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damn emeber why are you world history books worst gacha char like T.T

safe sand
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uhhhh i only know that you get diminishing returns out of it

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so two links is not +60% skill damage

lime bear
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losing my mind

celest carbon
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same

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ive been grinding ts for the past hour im out of umbraline

lime bear
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I'm using Ginseng

celest carbon
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uh it's a quest in lodespring

lime bear
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dodging the boss is so annoying

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I'm in mobile too

celest carbon
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it's near the depot

cinder dagger
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what type of fancy phone do people have to be even playing this... eh questions for later

lime bear
lime bear
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literally low quality and frame stutters a bit

celest carbon
lime bear
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okok

tight haven
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FUCKING WHAT

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THEY DONT GIVE ARSENAL TICKETS?

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i am so goddamn sick of this game bruh

celest carbon
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huh wdym?

summer flower
fast hinge
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guys am i crazy but full arts intensity pog/arclightis the move

tight haven
fast hinge
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200 arts intensity 4 stack buff u get like 43% dmg amp on breach/electrification

summer flower
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ehh?

tight haven
summer flower
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okay, from where you thought its gonna be more than char?

tight haven
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i have like

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no interest in debating my expectations abt this

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lowkey

summer flower
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lowkey

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try reading

tight haven
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bro!

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read what!

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it shows you the goddamn 6* op animation then tada theres no arsenal tickets

celest carbon
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i mean you're not pulling from headhunting

summer flower
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lemme read box

tight haven
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well hell it's still giving me bond quotas though

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it's just annoying is all

summer flower
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that's just what happens when you get 6*

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via certain channels

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seems slector is one of them

tight haven
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yeah again its just annoying

summer flower
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...

celest carbon
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when you get ardelia from the log in event you dont get arsenal tickets, it just works the same for the selector

tight haven
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i dont need an explanation for what i just experienced lol

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wdyt youre doing here

summer flower
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what?

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can you write in such way that i dont feel like i'm having stroke?

ornate rapids
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Bis team for yvonne?

celest carbon
tight haven
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gilb is the most important unit there bc she applies nature inflicts very consistently

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use whichever you've raised most between perli and ake, it largely doesnt matter

ornate rapids
tight haven
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use her if your perli is unraised

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perli is better for burst comps, ake helps with yvonne's costly ult

ornate rapids
safe nymph
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there is no way the xiranite armor is ardelias bis gear when there are other pieces that give the same amount of will but with either ultimate gain or treatment bonus right?

summer flower
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what's set bonus for xiranite?

safe nymph
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its the chest piece in particular im talking about

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the set itself is great on her

tight haven
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it boosts the effectiveness of corrosion

ornate rapids
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btw who do i get from the standard selector

safe nymph
tight haven
ornate rapids
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Twink is P2 and Aderlia Is P1

safe nymph
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thats nice to know

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thanks

tight haven
tender zephyr
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dpr diff of yvonne and lr?

ornate rapids
tight haven
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youre very close to lifeng p3 which is a massive powerspike

tender zephyr
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their own team

tight haven
outer ermine
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PerliFumo enion lemme add u when

tight haven
ornate rapids
tight haven
ornate rapids
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i just don’t want to make a wrong choice

ornate rapids
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I have Pog P2 on my main lol

outer ermine
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🤝

ornate rapids
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gonna get twink there

wild meteor
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How much less DMG is valiant from lifengs sig

tight haven
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p3+, ~30%; p4+, ~40%

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wait no thats not right

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one second

sand pike
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Me wanna see ChenWoah

wild meteor
# tight haven pre-p3, ~15%

Assume p0 for both. I'm wondering how hard I shld go for it, coz I'm also kinda low on armoury tickets unless I go all in for gilberta

tight haven
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nvm i cant find the post from that cn player

ocean saddle
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Can anyone verify this? Double lynx slab without set bonus beats fire set?

tight haven
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but it assumed 3pc swordmancer + xiranite iirc, max artifice

summer flower
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XD

dry kindle
summer flower
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yea lemme get that from my shelf

tender zephyr
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we need chem of endfield instead of cn calcs

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real

tight haven
wild meteor
tight haven
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p3 is what starts opening the gap due to the extra scaling from all attributes

wild meteor
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So it's like between 2 pulls on lae or 8 pulls on his Sig banner

tight haven
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rough, rough

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how invested is your phys team

wild meteor
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Not invested but I have lifeng pog admin and Chen now

summer flower
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so for whatever reason i thought valiant is sig of lifeng

wild meteor
summer flower
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and now i'm like welp who to get from selector then

tight haven
wild meteor
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Pog has thermite cutter at least

tight haven
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sigs are a final consideration when you're sure you have enough resources to make a team work already

wild meteor
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Do you know if it's impt to pull Gilberta (and if we do, pull her sig too)

tight haven
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in particular lifeng needs very hefty investment to maximize gains

balmy cedar
tight haven
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since he scales off every stat, every artifice and level matters

wild meteor
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Ah lifeng is like last rite ig, she needs like so many dupes to shine I heard

summer flower
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wait what?

tight haven
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lifeng doesnt need dupes to shine

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lifeng's dupes are just REALLY good

wild meteor
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Ah

summer flower
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valiant is 6* right?

tight haven
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yes

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lifeng's dupes are arguably like

green ibex
tight haven
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5 of the best dupes in the entire game

green ibex
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what should i spend my 6 star ticket on

tight haven
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lifeng 👍

green ibex
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Ticket

proper walrus
green ibex
summer flower
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.....

ocean saddle
wild meteor
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I took pog coz I'm missing him and ember

summer flower
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i look at mountain bearer

tight haven
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just because you can make the team work without him doesnt mean he isnt a very significant part of what makes the team so good

proper walrus
summer flower
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and i look at valiant

tight haven
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they work but not nearly as well as with lifeng

summer flower
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and i dont see that much difference

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15%?

tight haven
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its a percentage all attribute boost

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for a character who scales with every attribute

summer flower
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?

lusty kernel
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About the selecto, lifeng or LR ?
I have a physical team built (pog mc chen ember) and also have the 5stars for LR at P4-5 Like xaihi snowshine

tight haven
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read lifeng's illumination passive

proper walrus
summer flower
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you talking team comp diff or you talking about weapon diff?

tight haven
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yazhen syringes are good enough

balmy cedar
summer flower
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man, you better swap to sprays

tight haven
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if it works it works but comparing arde/ember to lifeng as suitable replacements is disingenuous

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the dpr loss is massive not to mention how smooth he makes rotations with his ult

summer flower
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@balmy cedar if only that protocol space didnt had healing orbs

proper walrus
tight haven
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but you dont

proper walrus
tight haven
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he applies vuln much more quickly and consistently

proper walrus
tight haven
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she really doesnt man

valid zealot
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Do you even play Lifeng.

proper walrus
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Yeah i kicked him after ember

valid zealot
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Figured.

summer flower
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i might just not use selector untill i'm just only 1/6 missing not 2/6 missing

summer flower
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from which set is that?

proper walrus
balmy cedar
summer flower
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ohh

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OHH

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okay

lusty kernel
valid zealot
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Where's the part where Ember apply 2 stacks per skill.

proper walrus
lusty kernel
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Thats what im thinking lil

valid zealot
tight haven
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look

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if it works for you it works for you

summer flower
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100 main stat from that

dry kindle
summer flower
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at base

lusty kernel
summer flower
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pretty nice

dry kindle
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We love crits

proper walrus
lusty kernel
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Slower

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?

dry kindle
proper walrus
proper walrus
summer flower
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also i'm one succesful etching away* from perfect grand vision essence

tight haven
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okay im not seeing it with the mi security set

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i just

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made a set to try it

dire nymph
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biggest ember fan ive seen here

summer flower
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?

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on which char?

tight haven
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im really not seeing it

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laev

summer flower
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with ulti on or off?

tight haven
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standard rotation with gilberta

dry kindle
lusty kernel
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I have p1 ember and her weapon and im thinking lifeng is better and i dont have him

proper walrus
summer flower
tight haven
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i also cant intuit what possible benefit this has over standard hot work/tide fall

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or ult spam

summer flower
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you lose potential 10% crit rate on that slot where slab goes

tight haven
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is it literally just crit fishing

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omg

dire nymph
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idk i dont get hit so i dont even get to proc ember combo

dry kindle
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And fixing with crit food

tight haven
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bruh

summer flower
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30% isnt that much of fisshing

dry kindle
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The fuck did you think it was

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😭

tight haven
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dude we need to like

summer flower
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enough to average it out

tight haven
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save crit players

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we need jihad

proper walrus
tight haven
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i am so tired of falling for it

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thinking theres sauce

summer flower
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man, meanwhile people are using litteral fishin skill to fish for SP

summer flower
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and repeating same run to get shorter time because better fishing luck

balmy cedar
summer flower
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AND ONE CANNOT HAVE 30% CRIT RATE which is significantly better chance

tight haven
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just base

proper walrus
tight haven
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i am very curious what your phys team rotations look like

summer flower
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chen -> chen combo -> endmin combo -> endmin skill

proper walrus
summer flower
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and meanwhile it happens there is perlica combo -> avvenna combo

balmy cedar
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crit + slab works because of int stacking + atk% bonus

dry kindle
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Fuck me I'm not reinstalling excel

summer flower
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and left over SP goes into avyenna skill

tight haven
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but why not. do this with lifeng

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its faster

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just put xiranite on him

dry kindle
proper walrus
summer flower
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that's like 30cr base without artificing

lusty kernel
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I need pog gear set for battery build

tight haven
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okay if crit slab is the play fuckin whatever dude atp

lusty kernel
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Anyone?

summer flower
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if he geared correctly

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then passive active its what? 35%?

dry kindle
tight haven
tight haven
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which is the point

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you kill things

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faster

summer flower
dry kindle
lusty kernel
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He wants stacks

valid zealot
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Lifeng only needs 1 ult to match Ember invul application no.

summer flower
proper walrus
frozen tide
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are we arguing on ember being good

sly nymph
tight haven
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he doesnt just have better buffs he does bonkers damage

valid zealot
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Someone dying on that hill.

balmy cedar
proper walrus
tender zephyr
lusty kernel
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Phys suscept, vuln, link

proper walrus
balmy cedar
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im guessing after max art, maybe around 36~

summer flower
sly nymph
proper walrus
wintry hazel
sly nymph
wintry hazel
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I'm gonna tear up gawd damn

lusty kernel
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Last rite good ?

tight haven
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yep

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just needs a ton of investment

valid zealot
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How many combo can Ember squeeze in 1 4vuln breach 1 4vuln crush cycle.

summer flower
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i have 34% with slab

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without artificing

tight haven
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really wants her sig, really wants specific teammates that typically only she uses

sly nymph
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try getting 2 crushes in a breach stagger wirhoit lifeng

summer flower
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and that comes to 39 after passive is on

wintry hazel
# tight haven yep

Sinclair if u on my spot rn
U gonna invest avy/ele team further and fk second?

lusty kernel
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I have the red greatsword like 3 copies
Also have snow and xaihi at p4-5

balmy cedar
tight haven
proper walrus
dry kindle
wintry hazel
dry kindle
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Least addicted crit gambler

tight haven
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khravengger >>> sundered prince unfort

sly nymph
wintry hazel
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U don't plan on 2nd for a while?

tight haven
summer flower
tight haven
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if you just land every crit

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thats like

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literally +50% damage

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theyre right man

frozen tide
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what could possibly be the argument for ember

proper walrus
balmy cedar
sly nymph
tight haven
lusty kernel
summer flower
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toolkit is also CR + int @balmy cedar

tight haven
valid zealot
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You can drag your rotation for 50% longer and still fit 1 breach 1 crush in.

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Problem is how quickly.

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And damage, of course.

lusty kernel
proper walrus
tight haven
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lifeng's damage is just inarguably so much better than ember's

tight haven
valid zealot
tight haven
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i make no claims toward ember here

summer flower
tight haven
sly nymph
valid zealot
balmy cedar
summer flower
balmy cedar
proper walrus
frozen tide
# tight haven puffy

double checked to make sure lifengs talents and potential is better, lifeng has better multiplier on battle skill combo skill and ult

sly nymph
lusty kernel
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Very strict rotation no?

frozen tide
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as well as dealing more damage for existing with his weap and talent

tight haven
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like this just feels like slab discourse v2 but with crit this time for some reason, how exactly does this overcome the slower rotation

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i mean i have no doubt it works but you're kneecapping your rotation speed for it

proper walrus
valid zealot
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Good.

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Now what else she does.

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Nothing.

lusty kernel
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He wants stacks give hime stacks

valid zealot
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So why Ember over Lifeng.

proper walrus
lusty kernel
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So skill diff

valid zealot
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That's your preference sure.

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Case closed.

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I will no longer take part in this convo.

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Peace.

proper walrus
# valid zealot Peace.

I dont think lifemg have ult regen fast enough for 1 ult for breach then another ult for crush

lusty kernel
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Survival for the hit you take to trigger her combo

frozen tide
dull oriole
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do thermite/obj weapon skills even work for akekuri?

proper walrus
dull oriole
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consider all her sp/link is from ult/combo

valid zealot
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Use his skill

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Duh

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What are your sp for.

balmy cedar
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until i see a content where i need to ult twice i dont see any point building for ult gain

sly nymph
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bro has clearly never used lifeng in his life

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dont even bother

ornate rapids
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Best Gear piece for Yvonne and Akekuri?

proper walrus
summer flower
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Open world

dull oriole
sly nymph
summer flower
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Ehh proroctol thingy

proper walrus
lusty kernel
ornate rapids
sly nymph
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bruh

frozen tide
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pin in build channel

manic blade
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ember is t0 source trust me bro

sly nymph
tight haven
valid zealot
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Don't tell me your Ember comp can 4 vuln with 1 sp.

ornate rapids
frozen tide
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i have never seen anybody ever argue that ember does lifengs job better

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until today

proper walrus
dull oriole
tight haven
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which is still very wrong

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but

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less crazy of a claim ig

proper walrus
sly nymph
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and the fact you need to get hit

tight haven
proper walrus
dull oriole
sly nymph
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lmfao

valid zealot
manic blade
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ember is meta also run 2 lynx slabs on all 4 chars

dull oriole
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am i missing something Perlicka

tight haven
frozen tide
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use thermite

tight haven
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fortmaker over obj i could see i suppose

frozen tide
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thermite is just goated

manic blade
proper walrus
valid zealot
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So it's the same.

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Your point being?

proper walrus
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They are sidegrades

dull oriole
tight haven
dull oriole
frozen tide
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lif will just do more dmg

lusty kernel
frozen tide
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if you really want embers defensive capabilities go for it ig

summer flower
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You doing something twice in rotation, i'm doing two sparated rotations

dull oriole
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isn't thermite skill only tho (this was my orignal question)

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is it just badly localized

full reef
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for phys team. p1 pog or p1 lifeng?

whole birch
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Guys fully LB OBJ or Base Thermite for akekuri?

tight haven
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the translation is very poor yes

dull oriole
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ty

proper walrus
tight haven
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all of pogs pots suck

valid zealot
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Not to mention, you can delay Lifeng 2nd skill for Chen combo cd, to get 4 vuln with 2 sp, while preserving some to do 2 4 vuln crush, DURING STAGGER.
Thing that Ember can only do in her wet dream.

tight haven
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all of lifengs pots are amazing

frozen tide
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also doesnt lifeng get way higher atk than ember

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cause of his talent and pots

proper walrus
valid zealot
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Buffs aside since he doesn't care.

proper walrus
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Ember have self buffing in her kit

valid zealot
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This is just on vuln application.

sly nymph
proper walrus
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So those negate

frozen tide
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how many times do you get hit on rhod

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on average you would say

proper walrus
sly nymph
frozen tide
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no i did not say allat

sly nymph
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which is reasonable question

proper walrus
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Sometimes when the enemy is like 3% hp idc about dodging i just facetank and finish them off

dire nymph
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this ember convo has been on since i left for uni and i finished my classes

outer ermine
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i see it

frozen tide
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they would be dead

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without that 3 percent left

valid zealot
sly nymph
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being able to choose when to apply vuln stacks

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instead of relying on getting hit

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having burst damage in stagger

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that also builds for another crush

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there are so many reasons why lifeng is better in that slot

frozen tide
wintry hazel
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Wait

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Gil sig is bad for ele team?

proper walrus
# frozen tide but if you were on lif

I still feel like the lifeng buffs is just "win more", rn our chars deal more than enough damage to care about the buffs. Id take having more utility and survivability cause its not like we wont kill the enemies on time

  • dodging with sustainless team might waste more time
tight haven
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im too mean to the old man

proper walrus
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Using lifeng is like playing yu with lappland alter, lappy can kill but she just kill faster with yu burn

valid zealot
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Did you trim rhod.

tight haven
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ember isnt touching him in terms of damage

proper walrus
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I sent a few times

tight haven
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unless its showing ember hitting for over 500k from a finisher alone its not worth looking at

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okay im being mean

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show me

prisma maple
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Can Last rite and Yvonne work together in a team?

tight haven
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oh its this video

tight haven
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i would call this cute if a lv80 lifeng put out those numbers

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i shouldnt be snarky i just dont know if youre like trolling at this point

frozen tide
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last rite comp doesnt want yvonne

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yvonne comp can use rite but rite ends up kinda hijacking it

tight haven
prisma maple
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gotcha

tight haven
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the team gets better if you remove yvonne

prisma maple
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Ya my main team is Last rite, perlica, ardelia and xaihi.
I also have the electric team and the phys team just not leveled

proper walrus
valid zealot
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Did you trimmed rhod.

prisma maple
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My best time for rhod is like 30-40 seconds over time, i need LR weapon ;-;

tight haven
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hope you pick it up sooner rather than later

valid zealot
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No not you

prisma maple
valid zealot
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Stay out of it before I skillshame.

wild meteor
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I think I won't bother with building another team, but I'm on the fence abt gilberta

valid zealot
wild meteor
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Coz it's expensive to go to 120 pulls

prisma maple
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i currently have 70k saved up, idk if i want to pull gilberta or yvonne. I like last rite a lot.

thorn shore
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Don’t need either tbh

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Speaking from a meta perspective they’re both skips

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Speaking from a waifu perspective Gilberta is a must pull

prisma maple
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I do like waifus

thorn shore
balmy cedar
thorn shore
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Dunno I dont play arknights all I know is Gilberta is my favorite

proper walrus
lime bear
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@tight haven is marble trim possible with M3 Battleskill M1 Ult Laevatain smh, I already used Ginseng on Laevatain and Perplexed Med on Ake still short 20 secs. the boss only do the laser thing once on 2nd phase

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my dodging game kinda ass so I prob lose some time on that

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maybe I should've M3 Ult instead... leak

tight haven
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id use hot work tide fall for this to compact your damage

lime bear
lime bear
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my essence is +8 int +7 atk +3 twi

tight haven
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do you have a good essence on scathe

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oh good

lime bear
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no artificing yet tho

tight haven
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might be a skill diff lowkey

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im pretty sure my laev was around the same invest when i trimmed 💔

proper walrus
#

Knowing arknights, healing defenders like ember will have more value than buffers like lifeng

Its like a shu vs stainless situation

tight haven
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how fast is your tentacle phase

lime bear
tight haven
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okay

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so like i take it its less than a minute

proper walrus
tight haven
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which is about the benchmark for a trim with laev

lime bear
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go to 3rd with get 4 stacks and kill with combo again, and use EBS again on 4th hmm

lime bear
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if you le the boss hit once

tight haven
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yeah you get juggled

proper walrus
lime bear
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you get fucked and hit over and over again

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bitch ass

tight haven
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maybe just improve on that front

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💔

lime bear
proper walrus
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Anw i didn't mean to start the whole debate just now, i just cant stand people saying ember is brick when in reality she is just a sidegrade to lifeng for physical teams

tight haven
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not even a little true man

wintry hazel
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En

tight haven
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the closest thing to a valid point you made was that ember is a functional sustain if you REALLY need one

wintry hazel
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If I'm certain to go phys

tight haven
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which you dont rn

wintry hazel
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Should I get lifeng sig rn or pog sig

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No therm

tight haven
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lifeng

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fortmaker cope

sterile patrol
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cant you get fortmaker and just lifeng sig

wintry hazel
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I'm lowk downbad for pog voice rn

tight haven
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dude

proper walrus
tight haven
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just

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hold out

wintry hazel
tight haven
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an op that is just never demanded in any content

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she can fulfil a role, but a role you're never asked to fill

tight haven
outer ermine
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good ol buff army days

wintry hazel
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Pog alter?!!!

proper walrus
blazing lake
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well then

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its just a phy team

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lmao

wintry hazel
tight haven
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hes gonna be called hellagur you see

wintry hazel
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I ain't Liu corp

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I can't inflict fire

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Ma bad bro

wintry hazel
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But is the voice still gonna be hot

proper walrus
wintry hazel
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Ans the warrior scream doesn't feel like old man

blazing lake
wintry hazel
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@tight haven hold out but wb angelina!

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u skipped this sm

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i guess fk angelina

lime bear
wintry hazel
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Y tho

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On ak she last long

lime bear
fast hinge
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is perlica's p4 tooltip wrong?

dry kindle
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Probably still bugged

swift tundra
sly nymph
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do i switch to frontiers chest at lifeng p3

normal ruin
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I have P0 Pog, P5 Chen, P3 Ardelia and P2 Endmin (main dps), should i get P0 Lifeng from selector?

manic blade
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what all triggers clannibal in wulfs kit and is it even worth doing in combo for the buffs

valid zealot
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No.

woeful plume
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its because no sustain is better the consumables are enough while you perma stagger

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what is this ember shill lately, am i missing something reading her kit

tender zephyr
#

do we have calc for last rite team and yvonne team
also last rite supporting yvonne

rugged vale
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fights are too short and consummables are too strong

icy ginkgo
neon geode
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Why does the iana excel say that lastrite really wants her 3rd dupe

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its just 15% more dmg on ult and combo

manic blade
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ty ardelia for always being a useless chud that sprints into sprinklers

rugged kiln
#

Yinglung really is ember's best dps set huh

lost raft
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What is "mathematically" or "technically" better?
Improving Da Pan from "Ancient Canal" to "Exemplar"
Improving Avywena from "Cohesive Traction" to "JET"

lost raft
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You know that for example the Navigator is ~85% for Yvonne while her Sig is 100%, no?
How much % of improvement is each choice stated above?

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(Numbers Made up)
If each respective team deals 100K DPS with their 5-Star weapon, how much does each team improve if said character gets the 6-Star waepon?

tender zephyr
neon geode
stoic ruin
neon geode
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I'd personnaly would go jet, but I also use endmin in phsyical with grand vision

stark coral
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Guessing the community hasn't done a big document/guide yet for optimized teambuilding and gear assembly considering we lack endgame, so everything kinda explodes super fast and there's no real way to measure until.. well.. endgame content, right?

lost raft
unkempt oak
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some say it could go down to 20s

icy ginkgo
unkempt oak
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phys finally beating the speedrun fraud allegations

neon geode
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but then again, physical is actually disgusting wtf am i watching

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and now i found a 15 second leava clear 😭 what are the chinese guys cooking

stark coral
#

Any worth watching for levi clears?

unkempt oak
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wait til you see 11s rite

neon geode
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why is nobody uploading those on YT man, or do they hae differnet client? Kapp

dry kindle
#

rite is still 12 or whatever

stoic ruin
unkempt oak
# dry kindle rite is still 12 or whatever

感謝@床票 提督大人提供的賬號,非常的豪華。
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感謝 @擺爛的白茶 提醒 動火大運羊思路。 還有一個粉...

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neon geode
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iguess they are whale clears but it shouldnt matter to much no?

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how do they even set him up to be afk at start ?

unkempt oak
unkempt oak
neon geode
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i see, maybe this shaves of the last second I a missing on my trimmed rhodogan... pensiveWobble

glass wind
#

Can Endministrator use Thermite Cutter? PerliFumo

neon geode
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well its a sword, so ye he can use it fumo

manic blade
#

fraudogan* please spell right

dry kindle
icy ginkgo
#

finally got it with avywenna

neon geode
frozen tide
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can you read chinese

manic blade
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I don't want to build ult gain Laevatain. I don't want to build ult gain Laevatain. I don't want to build ult gain Laevatain.

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I don't want to build ult gain Laevatain. I don't want to build ult gain Laevatain. I don't want to build ult gain Laevatain.

hidden lantern
#

Endmin secretly pushed Hartmann to his doom kekw It said put one Zipline by him. I did. Then NPC was on a hill and I was to put another Zipline by him. I did so, but the other Zipline was too far. Endmin still forced NPC to zip kekw RIP Hartmann

unkempt oak
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but knowing keywords is all you need

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which can be found in the wiki

icy ginkgo
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avywenna supremacy

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no food buffs

dry kindle
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cant relate

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need to do another like 10 xp runs

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im having fun i swear

outer ermine
icy ginkgo
#

thats 4 days worth of sanity

dry kindle
outer ermine
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still waiting for that lr+gilb run

icy ginkgo
#

my spears would probably hit 50k if i waited for perlica's electrified

crude crag
icy ginkgo
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jet

icy ginkgo
high finch
icy ginkgo
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numbers just cover the screen

high finch
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yeah and that's cool

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sadly i will never reach the dopamine hit i feel when i pop 10 screens of mobs in poe2

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but it's also very cool

sly nymph
high finch
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anyways,well done

sly nymph
#

very skilled

high finch
hollow stream
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Could you mayhaps build lifeng as a main dps

safe sand
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what does this entail

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would argue that his 'normal build' is about as good as you'd get

coarse ocean
#

i mean i guess if you do lifeng pog chen ardelia or something then you can call him a main dps

high finch
#

i really like lifeng pog chen endmin

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but no sustain is kinda sadge

twilit quail
#

he does a lot of dmg while just doing his job

sand pike
#

or slap on some thorny yazhen tacticals

dry mason
#

@dry kindle do you know how much ult recharge we need on Gilberta?

dry mason
#

I'm afraid it will be too much if we use this set and +6 on essence

dry kindle
dry mason
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I'll wait when she's out to test step by step

twilit quail
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we are kinda just doing random bullshit go on ange

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rn

dry kindle
#

mfw 12h flight

high finch
#

it looks even better if you're a dude

dry kindle
high finch
#

what's pog skill priority? does it even matter to lvl his skills?

dry kindle
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m1 battle and ult

tranquil burrow
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i got my estella maxed lol

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lvl 80/90, maxed ult, lvl 9 combo skill, lvl 76 wep 6 star wep. i love this 4 star character

grim nacelle
#

who to get from the free 6* select? i have ardelia c3 and pogranichnik c0 and laevatain c0

glad niche
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Lifeng

grim nacelle
glad niche
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Phys team

grim nacelle
#

no ardelia c4? ik its useless and i hate her but

high finch
#

pog is good,lifeng is good,ember is meh but ok,lr is good

tranquil burrow
#

my god, my estella hits 60k with her ult

next helm
#

I want to pick lifeng

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But I literally have no weapon

glad niche
#

If you already have Pog, Lifeng is the correct choice even unarmed

next helm
#

Lifeng P1 is very good

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But the teambuilding sheet doesn't explain how to play

twilit quail
#

5* weap ultbot is still way better than anything else in the slot

next helm
#

Where am I supposed to gather the info how this changes the rot

crude crag
glad niche
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I dunno, have you tried the internet

tranquil burrow
grim nacelle
next helm
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Avywenna can one shot a boss

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And is a 5 star

crude crag
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yup, just spam spear

tranquil burrow
#

estella is too lazy to do 6 star dmg shes a 4 star

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im putting her to work

coral igloo
dry kindle
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this isnt cbt1

twilit quail
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Im adding rotations at some point but it's just going to be whenever I feel like it

grim nacelle
coral igloo
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but Laev is more like a double nuker

grim nacelle
#

i got 40 pulls rn but i dun think its enough to get her there

coral igloo
#

i can not give you that much luck i had

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you get her at like 80 pulls

sterile patrol
#

give him your lae p4... SadCat

coral igloo
#

120 is max unlucky

dry kindle
#

🗣️

grim nacelle
#

is her combo skill a dps drop during her ult? feels like it

sterile patrol
#

maybe good in speedruns

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me when i drop 50% dmg for a slab

coral igloo
#

i mean to be honest, you can clear lv.90 content with lv.60 item/charakters

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where is the point to max out gear and everything else

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we need hardcore dungeons or what ever

sterile patrol
dry kindle
#

no theyre on a 0 skill ult timeline or some shit

sterile patrol
#

if you adapt your whole rotation to making lynx slab good lynx slab will be good

dry kindle
sterile patrol
next helm
#

Wait polearm in shop?

sterile patrol
dry kindle
sterile patrol
#

if i hit all my crits

frozen tide
#

Technically if you hit all your crits