theorycrafting

[sly nymph]

4 duh

[drifting quest]

i gotta go farm more slug meat actually

[dry kindle]

L

Can't relate

[sly nymph]

i afked at the alluvium for an hour yesterday

200 slug meat

[next helm]

How the fuck do you play that team

[drifting quest]

200?

what

dont you cap out atl ike 50

after 90 runs

[sly nymph]

it's 8-10 per run

[drifting quest]

ok so my luck just sucks i guess

[tranquil burrow]

What is slug meat used for?

[fringe pulsar]

guys, has any1 run some math on akekuri weapons for laev team? I am wondering should I redeem Thermite from crate or should I stick with OBJ Edge of Lightness on her. Just by vibes I think OBJ is better for her cuz a) Flow skill gives her % secondary attribute (int) and b) it gives heat dmg dealt. If someone can post dmg formula it would be clearer for me, as I don't know is atk% on thermite can outweight this buff

[drifting quest]

3 slug meat from this run

lmfao

[drifting quest]

thermite >>> obj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else

but hold the crate

i guess

[next helm]

At least its not a 3 star tome

[fringe pulsar]

well, now I looked at the Oblivion, when we get a dps caster that thing is going on them

[drifting quest]

it doesnt have to be a caster

weapon type and class arent connected

[fringe pulsar]

I know, I just simplified it in my words. What I meant was Arts dps that uses Arts units

[granite lily]

which stats to artifice for laev?

[dry kindle]

Bold to assume sig won't just career end oblivion anyway

[drifting quest]

depends on gear set but i wouldnt artifice yet

[granite lily]

Why not I got enough mats

[drifting quest]

We dont know which gear set is best

If you dont care then go for it

[tranquil burrow]

The artificing mats are exclusive to Wuling pieces only so not like they hold any real long term value

[cold turret]

Whats the endgame defense tower setup

Is it just spamming beam towers, HE grenade and the wuling slow?

[fringe pulsar]

basically yes

[drifting quest]

We're in wuling for probably a year and not guaranteed to get a new tier in 2.0

I mean again

Artifice if you want

[fringe pulsar]

I did all on auto with just beams and wuling grenade launchers

[drifting quest]

Just dont complain if the set changes and you wasted mats

Simple

[cold turret]

In terms of layout, Is it slow/wuling grenade in front and beam towers in the back?

[dry kindle]

Too busy being poor anyway

[next helm]

I have a perfect essence for fortmaker

[granite lily]

you can just print infinite stock bills & gear pieces so might as well waste them

[tranquil burrow]

Rate of acquisition of new characters will bottleneck you anyways. It's just launch when everyone's in a rush but eventually you're getting 1 or 2 characters every month and a half, usually 1.

[fringe pulsar]

3 he and 1 slow in diamond pattern, beam somewhere close to reach 1-2 lanes

[drifting quest]

Counterpoint it's a month more wait and you dont waste the resources to save them

No content needs artificing

No harm to wait

[fringe pulsar]

let's wait for content and then dump all of the stocks at the same time like degenerates

[granite lily]

I guess intellect or heat dmg would be best?

[fringe pulsar]

for prio i think mainstat > auxilary effects > substat

[drifting quest]

Aux effects tend to be marginally better depending on the piece

[next helm]

Is it worth to run fortmaker pog

Or only if you have p5?

[drifting quest]

Maybe ™

[tranquil burrow]

Depends on piece. On a kit I'd say aux >>> main stat.

[high finch]

this channel is made for getting hard from numbers. not this type of things

[cold turret]

truth

Post big damage numbers instead

[high finch]

when we get to lvl 90gear

the numbers gonna be nuts

[drifting quest]

1.8mil last rite

Biggest I recall

[high finch]

i wonder what possible pots of endmin could make him op in future

[drifting quest]

Would need to do a lot

[tranquil burrow]

I wonder if we'll get new set effects entirely or upgraded ones for current sets. Especially simpler passive effects like ult charge and %dmg seem well thought out and balanced already. Getting level 90 versions of these stats just feels silly.

[drifting quest]

Most likely we dont get l90 gear at all

[high finch]

i mean like

we have everything of quality white to orange

and gear could be orange too

[drifting quest]

could sure but its

just not going to be a system people enjoy when it gets implemented

they'd have to make ways to transfer current tier gear to the higher one with artificing

saved

[high finch]

yeah,replacing gear gonna suck but it is what it is

[drifting quest]

so its simply easier from the devs perspective to stay at 70

lock specific gear sets to new regions so people have to continue to engage with factories

simple as

[tranquil burrow]

If they keep supplying 60 artificing mats a week for each region the income is high enough that you can simply artifice new gear sets trivially over the long term

[drifting quest]

60/week is still potentially months to maybe even a year on the high end to max 1 teams 'good' stats

considering the 3rd tap on a line can take up to nearly 40

[tranquil burrow]

The cost will be bottlenecked by rate of character acquisition which will typically be 1 character per patch for most people, sometimes 2

My current estimate is that it should take ~3-4 weeks of artificing mats to max out a gear set on average over the long term

[shut cobalt]

wait, shouldnt u be using this?? i thought the right one was the best

[drifting quest]

frontier is just a shit set

no one did the math on her ult breakpoints though so we kept suggesting it

[shut cobalt]

isnt it more dmg tho?

[drifting quest]

kind of but not really because you just get more ults on the other set which is more atk buffs/links

frontier uptime was pretty similar

[next helm]

For real?

Guess I am swapping

[shut cobalt]

ahh, i c
one more thing, is it worth to artifice it or nah? (if u need a certain ult gain breakpoint ig)

[drifting quest]

as always artificing gear can be expensive

so the longer you wait to do it the better

buy the mats, wait for tc to calm down

[shut cobalt]

alr, thanks

[cold turret]

Is this a decent defense setup

[tranquil burrow]

You don't need it technically, but then again you might never need it at all if we go by that logic. It tickles the brain so I'm a supporter of artificing early.

[cold turret]

1 wuling gas, 2 wuling HE grenade turrets and 2 beam turrets

[next helm]

Lookup Kyostinv's videos

If you want solutions

[cold turret]

eh it worked

god damn the gas turrets are nice

[shut cobalt]

oh, wait theres one more thing that i forgot
around how much gear components do u need for a full artifice? (or a recommended amount of gear components to keep ig)

[cold turret]

I just run the gear component production overnight and its enough

[tranquil burrow]

You're bottlenecked by articing mats and I believe someone calc'd you need 0.3 components/minute income

[drifting quest]

worst case i think its like 2k per line?

realistically a lot less

[shut cobalt]

so like, 20k at worst?
for a full one

im not going to let a gear component thing running all time so i want to know when to stop

[drifting quest]

pitying every upgrade for 1 stat on 1 piece comes out to about 2k afair
then that'd be potentially 24k or so in total

but you dont need to upgrade every stat on every piece

and you wont have to pity every single one

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[tranquil burrow]

I've almost fully artificed my gear set with around ~5k components. I was somewhat lucky on the kit.

[cold turret]

be thankful its not like ZZZ

lmao

[shut cobalt]

not like almost every mainstream gacha*

[cold turret]

Theres a special place in hell for music discs

[tranquil burrow]

ZZZ is pretty OK compared to Genshin

[cold turret]

fuck those things

because why do i need to both rng for a S rank music disc and get one that doesnt have abysmal sub stats

[gritty olive]

??? at least zzz doesnt have roll value

[tranquil burrow]

Being able to get perfect gear satisfies my OCD immensely and I appreciate Endfield for that

[cold turret]

Yes because i def needed a s rank music disc with 5 defensive stats

thank you zzz

[gritty olive]

imagine roll value distributions that has a floor of 60%

at least in ZZZ you dont have a chance to get like 2.6 CR(80RV) instead of 3.2 CR(100RV) (vased on my 1 month of playing)

[cold turret]

truth

[dry kindle]

Just be luckier

[cold turret]

I just tried to plug a beam tower into a power pylon for power transmission and wondered why it wasnt working for 3 solid minutes

https://giphy.com/gifs/thinking-albert-einstein-nikola-tesla-xSANJuoavQqCn3O4xG

[gritty olive]

At least no akasha,cv

[dry kindle]

We love discord

[drifting quest]

4500% RV!

[cold turret]

I need einstein and tesla excpet its endmin and perlica

because only they can compete with my genius of 82.5m/80m

[gritty olive]

Tfym my plume was 800 RV and im 68 levels lower than someone with 820 RV

[dry kindle]

Anyway why does gifting have a daily limit aaaaa

[drifting quest]

how would you feel if someone came and gave you 20 cameras

not very happy

[tranquil burrow]

I'd feel pretty good

[drifting quest]

6 cameras? much better

[dry kindle]

3*

[gritty olive]

Blue archive giving seia 200 wireless earbuds for relationship to increasw from 89 to 90

[drifting quest]

genshin you just lock them inside a teapot for a couple months

[long pulsar]

so many fuckin gifts to get anywhere past 50 lmao

[gritty olive]

I have a bond 50 student(kikyou) but im like only 10% of the way to 100

[drifting quest]

arknights you force them to work in factories and then they trust you

[cold turret]

Blue archive teaches that friendships require a small buisness loan

[gritty olive]

I still have my miku gift

[long pulsar]

in another universe my hare is bond 100 and my soul is sold to mx studio

not in this one sadly

[gritty olive]

Which of these is better to have an essence engraved

I still have the three wp selectors for ref

[cold turret]

Whatever your using

[gritty olive]

I alr have one for forgeborn

[exotic burrow]

already done with it? holy shit

how much sanity did it take you overall?

[gritty olive]

Took me like 4 ish days

[cold turret]

how much irl sanity

[exotic burrow]

hly shiiiiet bro

[gritty olive]

my irl sanity is currently used for r880 arclight

[exotic burrow]

i am barely halfway done after 4 days

and its the easiest half way

[tranquil burrow]

I'm about ~70% done after 4 days I think?

I'm at 5/5/2 and ~400 gel

[sly nymph]

just level the passives on all your laevi support weapons

[gritty olive]

Whats clannibal essence farm

[gritty olive]

No lmd 🥀

[cold turret]

gaming

[sly nymph]

i think i did main/int/agi + infliction to farm for ardelia and endmin weaps at the same time

i think power plateau

[tranquil burrow]

datafield.cc is a good site for mapping it out

[gritty olive]

Currently my etch js this. How expensive is the final etch?

[outer ermine]

most likely need to gel it

[dry kindle]

300 gel isnt it

[manic blade]

450 for 6th

[gritty olive]

Can we use purple essences for gel

[manic blade]

I wish

[dry kindle]

[manic blade]

100 v4 bucks yep your are worthy purp essence

[drifting quest]

no

[fleet saddle]

What rotation does the full ultimate energy gear enable for laevatain?

[twilit quail]

1 enhanecd skill 1 combo 2 team skills

gives ult

[azure turtle]

All lvl 80 op and weapons. All basic +1-2 essence. All skills maxed.

M1 Skill Ult pog, only 1 gear upgrade maxed for end

What should I focus on? Really limited tcreds

[drifting quest]

this is right, right

i dont know if i was being gaslit

saying laev enhanced skill is only 100 and combo is only 25

i can test right now even

idk why i didnt

[twilit quail]

what??

[drifting quest]

sworce said laev skill is only 100 not 100 and combo is only 25 not 31.5

but if thats the case then its not 2 team skill, 1 enhanced skill and 1 combo

you end up short

[twilit quail]

ok well just go test it

that's a better way to go

[drifting quest]

ok yeah i did

its fine

[twilit quail]

than me telling you whatever

[drifting quest]

i got gaslit

[twilit quail]

[rare rover]

100 but not 100

[drifting quest]

i dont know if its worth testing which is the case

since either being extra and not a replacement makes 300

[twilit quail]

wow holy shit the biggest AK character rating guy's video on lae

has almost 2m view now on bili

is that his most viewed video ever

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arknights-lasairfhiona-endfield-0mZbwmKx4bhKI4kQ2f

[twilit quail]

ok it isnt

[dry kindle]

So what is it then MF smh

[twilit quail]

old cc has more views

his own tierlist

has more views

[dry kindle]

I'd throw you at prts

[twilit quail]

[ripe parrot]

ugh almost a 10 minute clear on solo chen for triagg

i hate add phases

[twilit quail]

uhhh

[drifting quest]

either skill is 110 or combo is 31.5

or both

[twilit quail]

skill is 106.5

[drifting quest]

what

wait

[dry kindle]

But there isnt a prts yet

[drifting quest]

im dumb

yeah

i flipped combo and skill values

[twilit quail]

(106.5 + 13 + 25)*2.077

[drifting quest]

35/106.5

[twilit quail]

for 300.1265

[drifting quest]

have i done the math wrong all this tiem

did i fuck up the sheet

no i didnt

i just messed it up today alone

[twilit quail]

I think the current record on this is like 3:30

for chen solo

[ripe parrot]

doing a 1 add phase would certainly cut the time by a lot

[dry kindle]

Dies

[ripe parrot]

also feel like going arts intensity would help overall too

[sly nymph]

how do people do dorito boss without lifeng to group adds

thats crazy

[lime bear]

just how long does Redjade took to grow @drifting quest istg I planted it 4 hours ago and the timer is 4 hours and I logged in again and it's still 2 hour mark

didn't fertilize it tho

[drifting quest]

12?

its 4/4/4 iirc

with watering phases every 4h

sprinklers means no need to manually water

[dry kindle]

When's first umbral again

At this rate I'm gonna be doing a fuckin laev solo

[fierce prairie]

whats the theoretical maximum wuling stock bills/hr from "Severe Energy Alluvium: Wuling City" if we put 13 combat facility and semi-AFK(just reset the alluvium)? and which combat facility configuration will yeild the highest wuling stock bills/hr?

[drifting quest]

12th

[dry kindle]

Yeah no I'm fucked

Laev solo time

[wild meteor]

How impt is gilberta in laevatain/avy builds?

[sly nymph]

important for avy maybe

[wild meteor]

does last rite ever want gilberta? or do i just save thru the next 2 banners

[sly nymph]

just save

[dry kindle]

Just swipe

[wild meteor]

im f2p 🙁

[normal tangle]

how much of a priority are level 90 weapons

i know level 90 characters are very low prio

[dry kindle]

Kinda high ig

Uncapped etching and like 50 base atk

[somber apex]

dont worry dude im also f2p and i was able to get laevatain rn im going to start saving for future characters this gacha is wierd but its a very good one

[sly nymph]

you cvan just 80/90 to uncap etching and then save mats

until you can 90/90

[dry kindle]

But muh 50 base atk

[normal tangle]

yuh i have them 80/90 rn

or at least for my dps they are

ake and ardelia are on level 20/20

fuck those guys fr

[sly nymph]

you could have left those at lvl 1

[normal tangle]

i know but they looked ugly

[dry kindle]

Wao

[normal tangle]

costs nothing for level 20 anyway

[dry kindle]

Yvonne only dps has a marble trim

🗿

[somber apex]

i just hope i lose the next 50/50 for the yvonne so i can get Leavetain again i just love how it feel to play with her

[sly nymph]

i uncapped phys weapons to 80/90 but used mats for laevi's to 90/90

[drifting quest]

yeah there's non gilb yvonne trims now

on bad sets too

the bar has hit the floor

[sly nymph]

i think it's just an investment check

[dry kindle]

Yvonne solo umbral when

[sly nymph]

not a skill check

[drifting quest]

its both

the yvonne clears are underinvested

[dry kindle]

RNG check 🗣️

[drifting quest]

they're like 4min clears though

barely make it to trim

[somber apex]

funny story i saw a youtuber that was trying to lose the 50/50 to get Yvonne early ended up with a maxed out laevi

[sly nymph]

can you one rotation the 2nd phase

[somber apex]

like 3 laevi's in a row kinda luck

[drifting quest]

someone did what

8000 pulls

for p5 yvonne

[sly nymph]

thanks for funding the game ig

[somber apex]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-of-the-galaxy2-peter-quill-star-lord-star-lord-what-gif-24549462

[drifting quest]

8310

thatd be it

[sly nymph]

chinese whales are crazy

[drifting quest]

chinese vtuber

[sly nymph]

like why not just wait for the rateup

[drifting quest]

$10k usd equiv

[sly nymph]

too much money not enough sense

[drifting quest]

she probably made the money back off the stunt

or if not then it certainly went a lot of the way

[normal tangle]

literally no way that video made even close to 10k

idk bilibili monetization rates but there's no way it's that high

[dry kindle]

Or yk

Whatever gave her the 100k RMB to dump in the first place

[tired plinth]

When you have an Electrification from 4 stacks and then hit with Perlica's combo, does it overwrite the 24% Arts Damage Taken with 12%? Or does it only overwrite the duration?

[atomic kraken]

guys, which one is better set for akekuri?

[drifting quest]

seals

frontiers is like

really quite bad

[dry kindle]

Lv90 gear that does both

🗣️

[drifting quest]

just know you have to artifice the seals build

[dry kindle]

Oh right I still need to do the survey for the tcreds

[manic blade]

hack ur game so you can run 4 lynx slabs

[wild meteor]

what is the difference in rotation for

Current Team: Laevatain Wulfgard Antal Adelia
vs
Planned Swap: Laevatain Wulfgard Akekuri Adelia

[atomic kraken]

i wanna hack u balls bro fr

[manic blade]

[atomic kraken]

its the same rotation but with akekuri you may use her skill instead of lae after wulfgard combo string
like: wulfgard skill>wulfgard combo>akekuri skill>lae Finish attack>adrelia combo skill>lae combo skill
type shit

[dry kindle]

Stop thinking

Just 4 man akekuri skill

🗣️

[wintry hazel]

Bro might be high

[wild meteor]

whats akekuri's skill level priority? Just her ult?

[atomic kraken]

yea

ult and get her link stuff

[dry mason]

[untold turtle]

do we know the chances for gear artificing?

[dry kindle]

Ass

[untold turtle]

even estimates would be nice. i got no idea if its like 2% chance of 20% chance or 50% chance lel. idk if this is something i should expect to hard pity on

[manic blade]

idk but I did 40 good matches to hit pity so surely it can't be very good.

[untold turtle]

i just maxed the ult gain % on both my kits in like 10 artifices, with 3 of the hits being in a row. surely its like... 20%

[fierce prairie]

nvm, the wuling stock bill per enemy gets decreased from 32 to 4

[untold turtle]

its def not worth. even at 32, thats like what, 1 battery?

[summer flower]

Meanwhile i have spent 3k components on single item

[dry mason]

What's umbral

Content need 2 teams ?

[drifting quest]

No

[dry kindle]

"Difficult endgame"

[dry mason]

Nice

[dry kindle]

Its not

You can just run in circles and laev solo it

Trimming rhodagn is harder than it

Phase 1 anyway

[dry kindle]

Actually crossbow bastard exists but just win

[terse furnace]

What the acutal fuck

[real mist]

is arts damage taken considered a dmg % or a separate calc?

[terse furnace]

I feel guilty spending 50 USD

[real mist]

like starry beach from ardelia

[terse furnace]

Umbral only needs one team? Well that's good, I was afraid I didn't have enough resources to raise a second lmao

[drifting quest]

Its super easy too

So you dont even need much vertical investment

If you can clear recrisis 90, not even trim then you should be fine for monument

[untold turtle]

oh umbral isn't out yet? i saw on prydwen that the tier list was based on it and was like "i feel like i did 95% of the content in the game, where is umbral"

and was confused

[wise gate]

Theorycrafting is he piscine researcher?

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1maqWBuENp/

Here's your endgame

[rare rover]

is this umbral?

[dry kindle]

Yep

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

hello

[bronze plume]

the 10 min timer is so bs honestly i think it should be removed i cant clear within 10 mins 🥀

[amber vapor]

I'm under the impression that you like Ardelia but I can't quite put my finger on why that is exactly

[bronze plume]

my username

my pfp

my discord banner

[amber vapor]

No no that's definitely not it

[whole crystal]

prolly the way they type

[valid zealot]

He prob liked Eyjafjalla.

Wow i typed this one correctly without looking it up.

AmiyaRaveL

[whole crystal]

who

eyjafjella?

[valid zealot]

The OG Ardelia.

From the OG Arknights.

[whole crystal]

ic

[dry mason]

just say Sheep

[terse furnace]

Slander

[valid zealot]

Why settle for less.

[terse furnace]

Eyja deserves the best

[bronze plume]

likes*

[terse furnace]

Considering this was how infected Eyja was, I'm happy her reconvened version is living a much better life

[twilit quail]

a lot of people who play the original have said like not so nice things about endfield but Im certain literally everyone

[bronze plume]

she has one of the highest unit of originium in her

like top 3

[twilit quail]

would fold at the sight of their favourite AK char

in 3d in this game

[whole crystal]

ive never played arknights

[terse furnace]

Genuinely, this is why I started Endfield. I originally wasn't gonna play it because 1. Heard a lot of criticism about the gacha and 2. I don't like open world gachas

I was pretty down on the game for the first 2 days, but now I love it

[whole crystal]

know 0lore

[bronze plume]

i was already interested in endfield but when i saw Eyja on the screen i shouted so loud i woke up my irl wife at like 1am 🥀

[terse furnace]

That release trailer though

Starset the goat

[bronze plume]

ong

and the extended version of the song just made it better

[twilit quail]

licensing datura is legitimately insane though

cause holy shit that track

dude

[terse furnace]

I'm just happy Ardelia is living the life Eyja longed for

[bronze plume]

no shes not

she still miss her parents 🥀

[terse furnace]

Reconveners don't have parents

[bronze plume]

this is my goat

[twilit quail]

it's so fucking good

this song

[terse furnace]

Both of the Wonderland skins are amazing

[bronze plume]

why has laevs max int with hotworks gotta be 696

[dry kindle]

3d as skins

Surely

[terse furnace]

Never forget what they took from us

We can't use a giant Orca plush as a weapon to bludgeon enemies to death

[bronze plume]

when yall think i should stop

[rare rover]

never

[terse furnace]

Honestly I stopped at 18k, decided making 2x batteries was more important

[twilit quail]

you just juggle the two

[bronze plume]

i mean

you can just do both

[terse furnace]

I'm probably not getting through 18k in a while

[fossil narwhal]

why even make 2x batteries, the wuling stock bills don't even regen that fast

[bronze plume]

you make less batteries but you can do both

soon

[manic blade]

I just make em when I can’t sell anymore to stock tbh

[terse furnace]

Note that I said "2x batteries"

I was doing 1x batteries and 1x comps before, but I switched to 2x recently cuz I wanted more WLD

[bronze plume]

yeah im making 2x batteries and the gear

[terse furnace]

you must be going negative on Xiranite

[bronze plume]

yuh

[terse furnace]

What's the benefit of leveling trust past 100%?

[manic blade]

It does it just splits it what I don’t know if rotating them around makes more output? I’d assume it’s the same

[bronze plume]

its neg xiranite but still enuf to make both

[bronze plume]

only lore

thats why its so slow after 100

for ardelia we learn that all the sheep with her are dolly and that dolly is doing mitosis

[fossil narwhal]

vanguard slander in main sub smh

[valid zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?size=48&name=dalao&quality=lossless

@dry mason

[dry mason]

what

[valid zealot]

dalao

[dry mason]

the word dalao make me rmb old days in HI3 LOL

[manic blade]

Peak

[bronze plume]

i have now gotten

5 weapons 3/3 essence

the question is

do i just swap thermite between arc and ake

or just get a 2nd one

1 team only needed yeah but i aint swapping weapon everytime

[dry kindle]

Lazy MF smh

[valid zealot]

Whale problem.

Can't relate.

[dry mason]

can't storage sanity anymore

[bronze plume]

can i have those

what gear on laev do you use for 700 total int

[midnight swift]

Question:
P2 Laeva or P0 Yvonne?

Context:
I am a pass-only spender. I have Laeva at p1 now and I also already pulled gilberta. I want Yvonne and was going to save more to pull for her banner but Laevas further promotions look so good.

[fossil narwhal]

neither

[dry mason]

Slab i think

[tranquil burrow]

Just save

[bronze plume]

slab

yikes

nvm ill stick wit 696

[dry kindle]

Slab

[midnight swift]

Wait for 1.1 units?

[fossil narwhal]

yeah

[dry kindle]

P5 gilberta

[mint dagger]

Only answer

[bronze plume]

we disregard yvonnes entire future

bros chalked

[tranquil burrow]

I'm at 664 right now but missing final essence level and a bit of artificing. I'll reach 688 in the end.

Still can't trim

[terse furnace]

I do think people are doomposting a bit much regarding Yvonne lmao

Her kit's fine, she just doesn't have good teammates to support her

[bronze plume]

yeah

shes fine rn as is

[fossil narwhal]

should i spend sanity on operator xp or wait for the game to drip feed it in my waiting mouth

[bronze plume]

and she can literally only go up from here

its just a matter of when

is she getting good units for her

[tranquil burrow]

Or forgotten and everyone moves on

[valid zealot]

She'll be big when that giga ice boost + interruption immunity support released trust.

[terse furnace]

She needs better cryo inflictions more than anything

Xaihi is already good damage boost

And from my understanding, Laevatain's ult pauses when she dodges or uses skill...? I want to believe Yvonne's does the same thing (could be wrong about that though)

[tranquil burrow]

This pause stuff happens with more than just ults

Food buffs also pause

[dry kindle]

Except yk

Rite exists

So

[bold rose]

someone eli5 what's the theory behind fortmaker pog

[dry kindle]

Ult charge and arts intensity stat stick

[bronze plume]

arts intensity

[terse furnace]

I never argued a character wouldn't be better than her, I'm saying she's lacking good teammates and people are doomposting too much

A character can be good and a character can be better than her

These things are not mutually exclusive

[dry kindle]

Yvonne being good with current ult

[terse furnace]

^

Let's not pretend like install ults don't already exist

[dry kindle]

Yvonne is channel

[terse furnace]

So? Does dodging pause the channel, or do we not know yet?

[dry mason]

first try for Gil

[terse furnace]

Gratz lol. Also two nodes into Will too

[dry mason]

meanwhile Lae took 31 times

[terse furnace]

31...? Separate tries, or individual drops?

[bronze plume]

it still only took me

15 tries for 5 3/3s

[dry kindle]

https://vxb23.tv/vSSzzRn @drifting quest

Fucking

Sure

Whatever

Go beat 3+6 rite

[dry mason]

separated

31 times double drop\

[terse furnace]

Avywenna goat

[bronze plume]

maxxed jet

yeah ok

[terse furnace]

Honestly, I'm just impressed a 5* could do that in general

[bronze plume]

its a HG game

it aint the impressive

[terse furnace]

It's impressive when you consider the modern gacha space atm

[bronze plume]

do not rope HG into the cringe that is modern gacha companies

[valid zealot]

clueless

[terse furnace]

It's why I'm always stressing that I'm happy they decided not to make a direct copy of Genshin's gacha system

[bold rose]

is this the correct weap setup (I don't have sigs)?

[dry kindle]

@frigid vector

[tranquil burrow]

They should give us a real training dummy like in ZZZ

[tight haven]

aspirant and chimeric are godawful but yeah

chen wants sundering steel and lifeng wants at least valiant (but you REALLY want his sig)

lifeng accounts for a fairly significant amount of the damage in this comp

[bold rose]

yeah.. I'm mostly coping
phys is my 2nd/3rd prio team anw

[valid zealot]

or have a fat Endmin and ult bot Pog LF.

dat's what i do.

[bold rose]

I think that's like everyone on the pyro team with sig

[tranquil burrow]

I pray to god next reset has thermite cutter on rotation. Or Wulf sig, either works.

[unkempt oak]

all the while phys is still stuck at 38s

is phys this game's psyop

[valid zealot]

FortePensive

Bounded by no 6* striker.

[unkempt oak]

rossi save the phys society

(she's prob fire)

[rare rover]

Rossi turns out to be fire yea kek

[valid zealot]

So her brother can retire early.

[frozen tide]

Zhuang tianshi will be a crush dps trust

[valid zealot]

DRHANATT

Family bonding.

[compact bridge]

If i already got a +1/+2/+1 essence for surtr, should i still farm wuling engraving dungeon?

[valid zealot]

You have nothing else to essence?

[compact bridge]

I have no idea who else to essence

I mean, could i run valley engraving to upgrade surtr essence?

The wuling ticket cost so much i need to save some for catalyst

[frozen tide]

Don't think you can run valley for her sig

[rare rover]

just look at your team and the essence their weapon use and farm that, u can use any essence as fodder to etch

[unkempt oak]

don't need tix if you're farming fodders

[compact bridge]

How to max out surtr essence?

Oh i see

[rare rover]

150+ fodder essence

[valid zealot]

Farming for fodder is luxury atm.

[frozen tide]

You get a 1/1/1 or better base and feed it a billion fodder

[valid zealot]

Idk Arde sig? Thermite cutter?

[compact bridge]

+1/+2/+1 should be good enough for surtr sword right?

[frozen tide]

It works perfectly fine as the base

[valid zealot]

Define good enough.

[rare rover]

not if u take a whole week of farming essence cause it wont fricken drop

[frozen tide]

You want to eventually upgrade it tho

[valid zealot]

You problem can't relate.

[frozen tide]

Maxxing essence is a big performance increase

[rare rover]

[compact bridge]

I have no idea how the average essence drop rate lol

[unkempt oak]

support weaps you can just engrave purple essence since those can drop with +3 on skill stat and that's all you really need

[compact bridge]

I only did one run since it cost so much sanity

[unkempt oak]

and purples can drop without needing to spend sanity

[valid zealot]

1/2/1 after one run?

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderator-discord-moderator-delete-moderator-snitch-gif-27063075

[frozen tide]

That do be true never thought abt that

[valid zealot]

Get this man out of here.

[compact bridge]

Yeah the wuling ticket help

[rare rover]

using permit its a 1/24 chance without permit its 1 in a 1000+

[compact bridge]

The maximum base is +2/+2/+2?

[tacit bloom]

Anyone has a potential breakdown in dmg increase for laevatain?

[dry kindle]

Why is there fucking double slabs

Aaaaaaaaaaa

[rare rover]

for the base> uhhh ive seen natural 3s

[manic blade]

Quad slabs

[unkempt oak]

base gold can go up to 4, purple up to 3

[tacit bloom]

Anyone know the dmg increase % from c1 to c5 laevatain? Or where can I find the info?

[compact bridge]

Any essence can be used as fodder right? Maybe i just run ardelia weapon essence then

[rare rover]

fodder can be any flawless essence

[frozen tide]

^ I'd love to know as well

[civic wolf]

theres no reason to invest on Flourite's personal Damage in Yvonne team right? seems like she barely does anything in that comp

Also why is Snoshine prefered over Estelle? Snowshin requiring a successful block made her a lot HARDER to use

her blocking a ranged hit only to miss the shield bash is kinda annoying

is that solidfy ult really that good that its worth the inconvinience?

[frozen tide]

Does Estelle have any sp recovery

Snowshine does

Asking cause i deadass don't know

[civic wolf]

Oh.

[frozen tide]

Just looked through her talen page

[civic wolf]

Wait why does Apel run a damage dealing set on her then instead of the SP recovery set 😭

[frozen tide]

Doesn't seem like it

[hidden lantern]

I want to smack this and have dinner

[frozen tide]

@civic wolf but also i don't think ideal yvonne comp runs either of those lmao

Its yvonne gilberta perlica xaihi

[civic wolf]

no Gilberta

unless you paypal me 30000 dollars

[frozen tide]

😭

Idek what bis comp would be without her

@twilit quail help

[dry mason]

[civic wolf]

currently doing Xaihi Snowshine Flourite based on Apel's vid

just need to know if Snowshine prefers 3pc Frontiers

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/perlica-arknights-endfield-paypal-hacked-gif-2197611663361960608

[civic wolf]

Oh so thats she doesnt use Frontiers

[torn wren]

sp return isn't sp gen, so frontiers doesn't work on snowshine

[civic wolf]

SP return doesnt count as SP Recovery

what the fuck lmaoooooooo

THIS IS SO MEAN SPIRITED

[gritty olive]

it doesnt make sense that sp return counts as sp rexo

[frozen tide]

Bruh i did not know there's a distinction

[civic wolf]

yeah but this dinstinction is made specifically just to screw over someone from using Frontiers

💀

[frozen tide]

Oh my god

It is "sp recovery" and "sp return"

In game

[torn wren]

you can put your artificed frontier on akekuri and just use her instead since pure cryo team is 🪦

[manic blade]

did they hotfix plants to farm while off the game?

[civic wolf]

yeah but tf am i getting cryo stacks from then?

i tried Ake in place on flourite and i feel like i struggled even harder to get those stacks

[frozen tide]

There's no cryo support in the game that gives good cryo application without eating sp

[civic wolf]

I need non gilberta or last rite solution bruh

[frozen tide]

So comps usually just take the l on cryo application department and stack buffs and debuffs for the cashout

[civic wolf]

those two hapepn to be the only two 6* i dont have

stupid stuff like this is why winning the 50/50 loss doesn't feel like a win for me, i gotta go broke on my pulls completely on Gilberta man 😭

another whole ass 120

[frozen tide]

If you are insisting on playing yvonne i would recommend pulling for gilb if you can

[civic wolf]

I refuse to believe Yvonne is that mid

without Gilb

[valid zealot]

If you are insisting on playing yvonne I recommend you change your mind.

[civic wolf]

surely she just needs a content geared towards her single target situation

[frozen tide]

She is mid even with gilb

Shes less than mid without gilb

[civic wolf]

puts on tinfoil hat

[frozen tide]

You can still beat current endgame with her

Even without gilb

[civic wolf]

they must've made her banner presence last the longest for this reason

[frozen tide]

But she will always underperform esp without gilb

[civic wolf]

i can probably just stick to my monophys or lava

[dry kindle]

Fraud until she can solo umbral

[civic wolf]

but im just baffled? like i decided to at least lv80 Yvonne and lv60 just so i get a fair shake at it

[frozen tide]

You have lavacake?

If you care about performance just play her

Best dps unit in the game

[civic wolf]

i did say i have everyone but Last Rite and Gilberta

[frozen tide]

If you love yvonne you can play her she'll just be a bit of a chud

But on the bright side

[civic wolf]

i just find lucking out on Yvonne only to find out it's a bait to get Gilberta

a bit annoying

[frozen tide]

She does have one of if not the highest damage bursts

For nice screenshots

[civic wolf]

like

its only been 1.0 and we're doing back to back BiS already

the hell

[frozen tide]

Im not even sure if it's intentional

Because lavacake bis is all f2p

And she's the intended cash cow

[civic wolf]

if i tinfoil hat hard enough

im sure there is one

Lavacake conviniently being the first 2 weeks means that people REALLY REALLY have to grind

or spend money

if they want the easy team

[valid zealot]

Gil is general support.

Yvon just so happen to be fckery tesst subject with many things lacking.

[frozen tide]

Yeah you can force a laev pull even f2p but its a bit tough

[valid zealot]

Blame them.

[civic wolf]

if you save up for the 2 characters after her? oops you need the other character

[valid zealot]

You can just get Gilb and walk away.

Only Yvon get this treatment.

[civic wolf]

im just unsure if going fully broke on my pull reserves for Gilb is a good idea

wish i know Tangtang's kit

i'd rather get a limited phys if there is one

[frozen tide]

Oh

[sly nymph]

where is fortmaker

https://tenor.com/view/enojado-gif-6930705070173779193

[civic wolf]

yeah im 120 pulls into Lav

[frozen tide]

Are you ride or die for yvonne

If not ditch the ship

[civic wolf]

so im going to end up 120 pulls on Gilb

again

if i were to get her

[compact bridge]

Im on full saving mode until rossi or tangtang come

[sly nymph]

gilb doesnt seem strong enough to justify

idk

[frozen tide]

All depends on how much nickit wants to play yvonne

[pure spoke]

Is there like a cheat sheet with the breakpoints of some ult efficiency of operators for vanguards?

[civic wolf]

its only been two weeks

and i need 1.1 info already

god

if they stick to this 3 limited formula idk if i like this game anymore

[untold turtle]

depends on income.

tho rn its kinda spooky cuz a lot of the income is non-recurring.

[pure spoke]

Hey can you tell me which website has this information?

[frozen tide]

Its prob just build channel pinned sheet

[pure spoke]

I see thx

[sly nymph]

we are gonna be brokies next patch with no new exploration

[civic wolf]

1.1 is gonna make or break people's perception of this game cuz the one time clear contents really need to update the same amount as this

i mean, i hope its not too hopium to at least like

hope etchspace gets 3 more areas

i wanna punch Tata

[wanton yoke]

why are not we talking abut

number sheets

[manic blade]

tata my beloved noo

[lost heart]

how much does tata weigh

there is your number question

[leaden lily]

So whatchu guys reckon the upcoming character's elements are? My guess is based on the cutscene fights, Rossie - Physical DPS, Mifu - Fire, SubDPS/Support, Zhu - Nature DPS, TangTang Not sure.

[dry kindle]

Rossie burn tangtang who knows mifu fangyi electric

[leaden lily]

Rossi's burn? Where'd you infer that?

I didn't see anything fire related in her cutscene

nor in her design.

[dry kindle]

Because I said so

[heavy fossil]

which piece would be better for solo fluorite? Not that it matters that much cause she won’t be doing damage anyways, but curious if there’d be a clear consensus

[dry kindle]

We will be pulling a pgr with this one

[heavy fossil]

oh wait i’m dumb

[manic blade]

she had like fire vfx

[leaden lily]

That's a wolf lord effect. It's the same in AK

It's like a Shadow/mist effect

not smoke or fire related

[fossil helm]

Which gloves for Avywenna?

[manic blade]

there's a chance she's phys but likely fire

[leaden lily]

Probably, but I wouldn't bet on it, since it'd be too early to have another fire dps when we have laeva

[fossil helm]

what the hell, mr. dolly is an eldritch being?

[normal tangle]

playing rather casually i already have 150 pulls in total

[leaden lily]

They're called beast lords in AK

[normal tangle]

[leaden lily]

dolly is a beast lord

[fossil helm]

Dolly, the "Sovereign of Sheep", and his Beast Stewards, "Little Black Sheep"

holy fuck

didnt think ardelia is such a G

[normal tangle]

now replace radahn with dolly in err

[leaden lily]

Wait till you hear about the penguin and duck beast lord

[fossil helm]

did you know that ardelia really loves her sheep tm

[manic blade]

dolly v pcor

[fossil helm]

ok if they can become rappers i dont think theyre crazy eldritch beings

the Lord part really oversold it

[normal tangle]

holy penguin logistics

is endmin the emperor

[fossil helm]

is penguin logistics the predecessor of endfield

[fossil helm]

anyway

[normal tangle]

alleged

it's pinned so hopefully trustworthy

[valid zealot]

ded game mentioned

No no u light mode user 🚮

[civic wolf]

so does Gilberta add more to anyone else other than yvonne?

and last rite

[fringe dirge]

What is better when the perfect equipment doesn't exist for your stats?

Higher secondary attribute
Lower main attribute

Or
Higher main attribute
No secondary attribute

[terse furnace]

OH GOD, FLASH BANG

[terse furnace]

She's core in the Electric comp, and she'll be core for any Nature DPS in the future

[frozen tide]

Higher main unless ur char has a talent that scales off secondary

[noble tapir]

I can't decide what off piece to go on Lifeng :(

[fringe dirge]

Gotcha.
Idk if this is the best but I got 3 Pc Yinglung on Estella, with Bonekrusha body

All with combo skill dmg%

So now her combo skill should be doing +200% dmg

With 15% atk from Yinglung, 14% atk from OBJ Razorhorn, and 10% my vanguard's Thermite Cutter

[sly nymph]

bonekrusha with ult regen

[noble tapir]

I just don't know which is better between that and double arts intensity with aethertech gloves

the sheet says they're interchangable and so I have decision paralysis lol

[sly nymph]

2nd if you are usijg stew meeting

[fringe dirge]

What's more efficient on sanity?
Building characters to level 80 and then spend your sanity on essence farming?
Or is level 90 characters and weapons worth it?

[whole crystal]

Schling is typing…

[frozen tide]

80/90 is necessary for your dps since it unlocks talent mastery

[frozen tide]

Whar

Most supps are chill at 60/80

[fringe dirge]

I noticed some vanguard skills get more SP gen at M1

[whole crystal]

[frozen tide]

I am so confused

[whole crystal]

dont be

[frozen tide]

90/90 is pretty late on the prio list

So get your dps 80/90 max out the most important talents and do some essencing and artificing

And then you can think about 80/90ing supports if you have supps that benefit from it largely and 90/90ing

[whole crystal]

can you get trimmed medsals with lvl 60 supports?

[rare rover]

yea

[frozen tide]

Depends on comp

But mostly yeah

[rare rover]

the main thing that matters is your dps and your comp really

do note

[fringe dirge]

My Main DPS is Da Pan and most of my damage comes from Crush, not talent multipliers

[rare rover]

it will be a pain in the ass though

[frozen tide]

Certain comps rely more on support investment than others

[dry kindle]

Supports aren't real

[whole crystal]

I struggle with rotations

[dry kindle]

Just crit better

And you can just solo anyway

[rare rover]

what sworce said, rotate better

[terse furnace]

https://x.com/JinxMathalos/status/2018281412059635871?s=20

JinJinxOwO Ferrypeep of The Goondola to Gacha Hell (@JinxMathalos) ...

Oh shit a hit tweet
Hi I'm Jinx a Trash Panda Hag loving Hag Vtuber and I stream gacha games I enjoy on YT and yap too much and do Art sometimes
I've seen a lot of comments asking about Builds/Teams n other stuff so to elaborate in WAY too many words:

1. Gear Stuff
- Everyone on

X · Feb 2, 2026, 11:12 AM

Well that's amusing

[fringe dirge]

I'm honestly so glad this game is not crit meta

[rare rover]

sworce when u finna reveal your main dps hmmm, calling everyone a whel lets see your acc

[whole crystal]

support denier

[frozen tide]

What would be the lowest investment comp for trimming

If someone had to speedrun a fresh acc to beat all trims or sum

[whole crystal]

I struggle to find the rotations. like with whom do I start etc

[frozen tide]

Laeva would be good but ig pulling her would be time consuming

Maybe just avy then

[frozen tide]

What's your comp

[whole crystal]

physical no?

[whole crystal]

I have a laev and a last rite team

[frozen tide]

Physical means you need to build at minimum 2 dps

[dry kindle]

Laev solo trim where

[whole crystal]

not here

[frozen tide]

Last rite comp rotation is decently easy

Pre fight rite xai bs

Go into fight do full ba

Activate ard combo skill

Use rite bs

Use ard bs to consume corro

Full ba

Activate xai cs perlica cs xai ult perlica ult if you have stan and rite cs

[whole crystal]

how do you figure that out? and dosnt it change with like the armor you run and stuff cause your sp regain and ult gain could change?

[frozen tide]

Ig you sometimes skip xai ult to match rotation with rite ult

[whole crystal]

(I play akekuri instead of perlica as I can play her in both laev and rite team)

[frozen tide]

And sometimes skip perlica cs to match rite ult

But other than that you just keep using rite xai bs and ardelia cs>bs

And bam 10 billion million dmg

[whole crystal]

does my xai need to be lvl 80?

or is 60fine

prolly 80 right

[frozen tide]

At p0 with no ult charge set

[whole crystal]

got p5

[frozen tide]

Starting fight with no ult and rite bs pre skill active

Oh

Your rots are slightly different

[dry kindle]

Nope

[whole crystal]

[dry kindle]

Same shit

Unless it's umbral

Then gl

[frozen tide]

P0 rites have to do 1 more ba cycle to get ult after cs

[dry kindle]

3 stack 4 stack is the normal anyway

[whole crystal]

wait I mean my xai is P5 not my rite sorry

[frozen tide]

And how would you get 4 stack without another ba cycle

[outer ermine]

whels

[frozen tide]

[whole crystal]

im not

[normal tangle]

60/80 is fine for most supports

as long as they can equip yellow gear it's fine

[dry kindle]

P4 doesn't get to skip it anyway

[frozen tide]

You can skip one ba

It reduces ult cost from 240 to 207

[dry kindle]

And you get a 3 stack combo instead of a 4

[frozen tide]

There's 2 possibilities one is you cast bs pre fight

[dry kindle]

[frozen tide]

In which case

16+40+15+15+15 for first cs cycle which gives 101

With p4 you need 106 more energy

With p0 you need 139 more

[whole crystal]

bro wtf why do you got all that of the top of your head

am I just dumb

[frozen tide]

4 stack cycle gives 132 gen

Which is still not enough for ult with p0

You need 2 4 stack cycles

If you started with bs pre cast

[outer ermine]

yall seen the avy clear yet btw for rhod

[frozen tide]

While with p4 you can 1 3 stack 1 4 stack

In the case of not having casted pre fight

Like a second ult cycle

[dry kindle]

[frozen tide]

Or whatever

[frozen tide]

Casting bs pre fight gives no energy

[dry kindle]

The mysterious second 16

[frozen tide]

You need two bs cycle for 3 stack

Each bs gives 1 cryo and xaihi gives 1 more

[frozen tide]

It adds another 16 at the start

Becoming 16+16+40+15+15+15=117 for first cycle

[outer ermine]

[frozen tide]

At p0 you need 123 more energy

Which means you need 4 stack

At p4 however

You only need 90 more

Which means 3 stack

[civic wolf]

just saw a youtube channel run ult eff gain pog instead of frontiers

[frozen tide]

So whether you start pre casted bs or not p4 skips one ba cycle for every rite ult

[civic wolf]

ye think this is better? since the idea sounds pretty sound

[frozen tide]

Unless you run a ult charge chest

@dry kindle

[civic wolf]

cuz instead of 16% attack buff from frontiers pog just gets to spam

a lot, LOT more ult

[whole crystal]

I think you won like 10mins ago already

[civic wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c--6hTgaBDI

[frozen tide]

The point is not to win or lose

But to know more as whole

[whole crystal]

ik im joking

[frozen tide]

Might as well go all the way

In the case where you start with ult

You use one ba cycle with bs without gaining ult to proc buffs and debuffs

So enemy has 1 cryo alr when starting the ult cycle with 0 energy

Act its just same as starting pre cast

In both cases you just miss out on the bs energy

[whole crystal]

so do you calc the cycles until ult for every character on the team? for akekuri‘s link for example I heard its important ( in laev team atleast) to activate her ult after laev‘s or smth so you would have to build her to time that too right?

[frozen tide]

There's a certain point where the cycle repeats

I honestly don't know laev team optimal cycling

I didn't pull for laev or look into her that much

[whole crystal]

im not asking for laev team Im asking cause I play akekuri in rite team

[frozen tide]

Huh

I play perlica with ake it very well could change cycle

[whole crystal]

@frozen tide

[whole crystal]

wait what

you play rite, perlica, akekuri and xai?

oh nvm

[frozen tide]

With akes sp recovery im guessing you can just burn a last rite bs once every while purely for ult charge

Without applying cryo

[dry kindle]

Its on cast guess I'll go die

[tired plinth]

Any ways I can improve my stun combo? Other than, y'know, actually leveling my characters

[whole crystal]

what dis mean

[frozen tide]

Last rite bs is on cast lmao if you are on game can you check if using the bs twice in a row without actually activating give energy twice?

[whole crystal]

ic, and her link effect from her ult?

[dry kindle]

I thought rite energy was on hit 🗿

[dry kindle]

Yep it gives

[frozen tide]

With ake you can just burn thru bs when you have surplus then

[whole crystal]

are you telling me you just punched out all these Numbers without even being in the game?

[frozen tide]

Which might change the cycles

[frozen tide]

Its easier out of game ngl

[whole crystal]

wdym

[frozen tide]

Testing in game is more tedious

[whole crystal]

so I hace to figure it out myself?
imma try it tmmr

[frozen tide]

Though i should to double check calcs

[frozen tide]

Yeah the cycle would constantly change depending on akes sp recovery which would also depend on how built your ake is

[dry kindle]

Me when we have to play a guessing game on if skills with energy gain add or replace

Where's prts wiki when you need it

[frozen tide]

They have different wording in game

Its either sp recovery or sp return

[whole crystal]

yeah vut for the numbers I mean. like what skill goves how much sp, ult gain etc

[dry kindle]

Energy not sp

[frozen tide]

Oh

[frozen tide]

You can just number crunch those

General cycle with rite tho is just bs cs until ult

[whole crystal]

what does that mean? add or replace

[frozen tide]

Pop buffs and ult

Rinse and repeat

If you ult straight from cs pop buff before cs

[whole crystal]

what does that mean exactly? so you just know that by heart?

[frozen tide]

Talent description lists multipliers sp recovery and all the other factors

[vale peak]

as in add energy (fixed amount) or replace / overwrite an energy over time (buff)

[frozen tide]

You just plug the numbers in and simulate

[whole crystal]

yes but you are not ingame so are you saying you just know all the numbers by heart?

[frozen tide]

Some yeah if not i look at wiki

Rites i know by heart