#theorycrafting

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frozen plank
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Good to know

solemn pasture
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there's no limit to how many tries you have with artificing so you'll eventually get there

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still feels pretty bad when you hit the pity though

frozen plank
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I got battery and syringe farm in wuling. You guys are farming gold gear disc's (forgot it's name) fully in wuling?

icy ginkgo
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you really only get like 5k-10k components then stop

junior fiber
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What’s the best 2 stats to engrave for laev sig?

dry kindle
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I'm just on like

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10 batts 1.5 comps or something

frozen plank
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I want to farm some, but gotta build that again

dry kindle
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I forgor

dry kindle
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You get a 3/3 then max it

frozen plank
junior fiber
# dry kindle Fym 2

We can only select two right? So I’m asking what two should I pick when engraving while I try to get a 3/3

icy ginkgo
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max in wuling is 2 xiranite battery and 1 jincao/yazhen drink production lines

frozen plank
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Can you send me that blueprint pls

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I need to farm components

dry kindle
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Oh engrave

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Uh

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1 sec

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Or 100

junior fiber
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lol ty

dry kindle
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Targets laev rite stanza and thermite

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And pog sig

twilit quail
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pog sig 🤯

junior fiber
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Alright nice ty

dry kindle
dry mason
dry kindle
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Twilight options suck

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Its just rapid ascent

dry mason
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so that's why I got it from 31th drop

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I have been picking Tw

dry kindle
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Its the same rate 🗿

twilit quail
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rapid ascent waaaahh

indigo steeple
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will yvonne get much better when gilb comes out?

bold rose
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and no yvonne still kinda sucks

dry kindle
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Yvonne rework soon trust

balmy jay
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Module will save her

dry kindle
indigo steeple
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i meant her banner

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but that sucks

dry kindle
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You can already offbanner gilb

indigo steeple
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yea i just didn’t so was gonna pull her on her banner

dry kindle
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Fucking ending it all

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3+6 as well

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Oh wait p5 is just battle

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Anyway

shy bone
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For avywenna what would give me more damage?

  • Will
  • Electro damage
  • Combo skill damage?
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Looking to see what i should focus on artificing while im still building up money

tranquil burrow
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when it says "after a wearers skill" does it mean combo skill or battle skill or both

high finch
hushed kestrel
heavy fossil
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how big a difference do the current limited unit sigs make vs bp weapons vs other f2p options?

wise gate
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theorycrafting is she gojo

rare rover
tender zephyr
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why essence so expensive chat

+7
+9
+4

valid zealot
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I'm trimming it so hard.

viscid mural
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is blight the thinh the doctor is fighting btw

dry kindle
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If anyone asks about yvonne sig just throw this at them

terse furnace
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I'm practically counting the days until Gilb's banner

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Gilb wen

normal tangle
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gilb is next right

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or is that yvonne

terse furnace
terse furnace
normal tangle
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oh so 3rd banner is just dead weight gg

terse furnace
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WHy complain about being given time to save?

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Besides, there are plenty of people who love Yvonne from the story/design and are probably gonna pull anyways

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She's just kinda bad rn cuz her partners are sparse and not good

heavy fossil
gritty olive
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search itwl laevatain should have one

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i made just have one weap comparison for surtr and its this

indigo steeple
gritty olive
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rank 9 and rank 4 passives

indigo steeple
fossil narwhal
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for laev should i run Tide Fall + Hot work or Hot Work + Slab, or something else, idk what's good

valid zealot
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Tide fall.

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Slab is fake.

fossil narwhal
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alright, and is it helpful to artifice the ultimate gain, or just raw stats

valid zealot
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Both.

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Exclude the 2nd stat for now tho.

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Less impact.

rare rover
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Dear lord slab </3

fossil narwhal
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so ultimate gain = intellect > strength?

wintry shale
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in the iana teambuilding sheet do you just increase the ultimate gain efficiency stat for the armor set for laevatain?

valid zealot
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What's the ult gain threshold i forgor.

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Ask them.

gritty olive
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idt therse breakpoints to that

fossil narwhal
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and final question, do i run full ult regen or the SP set? Fortmaker or a damage buff sword? for akekrui

valid zealot
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The 2 combo ult cycle.

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If just tide fall armor is enough then no need to artifice %ult gain, for now.

fervent perch
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What kinda partner would it take to make Yvonne good?

dry kindle
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Gilberta on crack that stuns boss for 15 seconds

dry kindle
icy ginkgo
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broo why does avywenna not consume electric stacks

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trimming the 3 bosses without gilberta is hard as fuck

proud gyro
torn raft
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damn even base sig still beats r9

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potential skill lvl

midnight stirrup
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Breh

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Gilberta with LR aoe on skill kinda cracked

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Im seeing mob waves just dissapear in one shot

timber patio
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Anyone know how much ulti gain laev would need to get her ulti up in 1 rotation, and is it possible with our current gear

whole crystal
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anyone has a link to the video of the china guy killing rhodagn in 16.6seconds with last rite?

dry kindle
whole crystal
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yes

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wowies

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thank you

valid zealot
manic blade
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I has 2 questions

dry kindle
manic blade
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  1. Do tertiary stats for a character do anything outside phys res / treatment bonus for example
valid zealot
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Just tide chest?

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Kay.

tender zephyr
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can estella dps
hows her numbers

midnight stirrup
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Shes a 4-star

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Not great

dry kindle
manic blade
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  1. With ardelia is it better to consume the corrosion w bskill on 15s cd for xiranite uptime or leave it for corrosion res burn
dry kindle
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No and basically yes

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You need to consume for suscept and sig anyway

midnight stirrup
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That combo gotta be one of the flashiest in the game.

valid zealot
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🫃

dry kindle
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Nope

azure turtle
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chat what is endmin preffered mods?

midnight stirrup
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Mods?

nova lance
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Shud I use my sanity for m3 or essence?

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Also does surtr need m3 on both her ult and bs?

valid zealot
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It's all damage multiplier so level as you like.

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3/3 Essence first.

azure turtle
nova lance
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Wut dat mean

midnight stirrup
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Easier and guaranteed multiplier increase. Essence is RNG.

valid zealot
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Essence with 3 matching stats.

nova lance
midnight stirrup
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By?

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Crowns?

nova lance
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Ye

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Also shee needs m3 for her bs?

midnight stirrup
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You said m3 as an option, so I assume you have enough crowns

nova lance
midnight stirrup
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🤷‍♂️

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If you wanna do essences do essences

nova lance
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How does it usually take to get a 3/3 essence?

dry kindle
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Ask rng

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At least every shit run is just more etch fodder

nova lance
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Maybe I Shud just wait for essence until Yvonne banner come

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Considering discount event

midnight stirrup
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And then once you do have it, goodluck with very low chance etching

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Basically guaranteed to always pity

gritty olive
nova lance
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Guess I'll m3 for now and stack up on permits until discount event

dry kindle
nova lance
nova lance
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Assuming sanity cap?

valid zealot
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Ticket cap.

nova lance
valid zealot
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Tbf you better farm essence first, since the diff is huge.

languid spire
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how far can etching essences go? like in hsr you have natural 4 relics that are always better than natural 3, is there something like that here for essences too? since natural/raw essence's stat levels can vary, is there a cap on the amount of tiers a essence can have like say if i had a natural 3 levels into one stat could it go higher than if it was a natural 1? since weapons can have their potentials raised for more stat slots

valid zealot
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Esp. if you are using un upgraded essence (which you should).

nova lance
valid zealot
nova lance
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I was artificing gear

valid zealot
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about that

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nvm you do you.

naive urchin
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Hey I got the screenshot

nova lance
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Wut did I do wrong?

copper ridge
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are there any endgame crops that we need to be planting?

i havent looked at automating the 2 fields yet.

summer flicker
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more like qol: more healing and food buff dmg

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for healing

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for dmg buff

copper ridge
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i never take dmg. i am the perfect Jeet Kun Do Sifu

gritty olive
rare rover
outer ermine
nova lance
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How to get a lot of engraving permits?

dry kindle
valid zealot
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The peasants don't print enough bills.

naive urchin
naive urchin
nova lance
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Guess I'll farm essence for now

lime bear
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Fortyfying or Ginseng Meat Stew is better

sly nymph
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you just farm essences with valley4 currency and artificing with wuling currency

rare rover
sly nymph
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idk i've gotten all mine within 500 sanity

nova lance
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I use laevatain tho

sly nymph
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ok then dip as soon as you get 3/3 essence

nova lance
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Don't her essence in wuling?

sly nymph
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yea

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so you need to buy wuling engraving permits instead of artificing mats

nova lance
vivid wasp
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what's the cycle for fire team with Antal?

sly nymph
nova lance
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Huh

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I'm done artificing gear

midnight stirrup
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Goodjob tho

sly nymph
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ok cool

nova lance
outer ermine
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PerliFumo lr kills at 3 stacks if using ult btw

midnight stirrup
naive urchin
outer ermine
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p4r5

midnight stirrup
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RAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Fuck u

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Im P2R2

outer ermine
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won to her in laev banner 2 times

midnight stirrup
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Man fuck laev banner

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only keep winning laev

outer ermine
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losing PerliWheeze

turbid elm
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Does weapon or role indicate each other?

midnight stirrup
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I need 1 more dupe of laev and I can get LR weapon

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with the purple shit

naive urchin
midnight stirrup
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Yes

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That is correct

midnight stirrup
outer ermine
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i need fucking xaihi m6 PerliWheeze 2% more amp

naive urchin
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hm im at p2r3

midnight stirrup
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OSDJFHSIOHUIOSDHF

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I need to get my factory running

naive urchin
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but also im ftp so im not stressing too bad

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er

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other than the 9.99 protocol pass

midnight stirrup
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Bro got p2r3 ftp

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fuck u

naive urchin
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when

midnight stirrup
naive urchin
strong nimbus
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Longshot, but anyone done trimmed Marble with yvonne? peepo_shy

midnight stirrup
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Lmao

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with Yvonne

strong nimbus
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the damage is fine. as long as the boss doesn't jump back or fly away thescreamsofthedamned

midnight stirrup
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Bro Yvonne has so many issues

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and boss moving out of the way is only 3% of it

strong nimbus
midnight stirrup
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I genuinely like Yvonne

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but why play Yvonne when u can play LR

sly nymph
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aren't u supposed to blow her load in stagger

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idk!!

strong nimbus
outer ermine
strong nimbus
shy bone
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Oh wait does esssences apply ALL applicable buffs on the character??

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Never farmed for them before

outer ermine
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anything but flourite atp

fringe dirge
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Does anyone know if stagger effectiveness works on stagger from lift/knockdown?

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Or does it only apply to the stagger caused by your actual moves

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I know arts intensity affects the stagger caused by lift/knockdown

shy bloom
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What would you estimate in percent higher dps Laevatain does compared to Avywenna? if both have sig weapons, I want to pull but don't want to regret if the dps gap isn't that big

open hare
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Avywenna is a nuker so it’s one big damage

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Surtr, I mean Laevatain does high consistent damage with supports and her ult

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She can shred bosses and mobs making her pretty useful in general

open hare
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So Laevatain is a good pull

shy bloom
open hare
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So if you pull for Laevatain and build her, you will be better off than building Avywenna

shy bloom
shy bloom
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lvl 80 avywenna and Jet, and Arclight lvl 80 too but the other 2 are still lvl 60

open hare
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💀

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You can still pull for Surtr if you want, but if you already built your team that far, it’s gonna be hard to build a Surtr team

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Once more content comes out, we will probably get more exp and materials

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Like I said before, Avywenna is a nuker

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So she is good for bosses or tough mobs

open hare
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Funnily enough, I have her at level 1

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Rip me

shy bloom
open hare
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If they add a double team mode which in my opinion will happen at some point then maybe

open hare
fringe dirge
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Getting two teams to level 80 is pretty feasible right now

open hare
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Many Gacha games that I have played in my experience do them

open hare
fringe dirge
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But if you tried to hyperinvest in one team getting your characters to 90, it's too much

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I have 2 teams at 80

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And 1 level 90 character

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But I also burned origemtry on refreshes

open hare
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Don’t burn Origeometry

rare rover
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u also gotta account for gear artificing, essense, talants, your basically forced to focus on a team right now cause trying to do two is too much

open hare
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Don’t be like this guy

open hare
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Talents is more than enough

fringe dirge
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You can get two teams decent enough, but the high end investing is going to drain all your resources

open hare
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Especially since you usually just need to upgrade the support part of the support

rare rover
shy bloom
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ok ty but can you give any estimate percent number you guess that Laevatain does higher in dps than Avywenna, like 50% more?

open hare
wild sparrow
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too many variables to account for to achieve that number

rare rover
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whats the most damage you've pulled on awvyena?

open hare
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You can use her ult more, her skills do a lot, and blah blah blah

split gust
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is it worth it to level up Pogra and Chen's other skills beyond this point? or I should invest my resources on other characters instead?

wild sparrow
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would not reflect truthfully

open hare
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Avywenna is just a nuker

rare rover
open hare
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Follow one of those meta YouTube guides

fringe dirge
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I wish there were more ult gain equips

rare rover
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idk crowns are hard to come by unless u got kaching, id be sparse with them this early on unless your mind is dead set on one character

fringe dirge
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Will probably come later with more regions

rare rover
open hare
open hare
rare rover
open hare
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And character drill

fringe dirge
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But right now investing in ult gain gimps your damage if you need more than 1 piece

open hare
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The battlepass you dumb

fringe dirge
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Chen I think feels really comfortable with 1 piece of ult Regen

rare rover
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theres a bundle that gives u 10 pulls 2k arsenal and 10 crowns

open hare
rare rover
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yeah and i noted that and stated the pack isnt as small as a kaching

fringe dirge
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But Da Pan needs pot 5 to comfortably slot in energy regen... otherwise he has to use a rainbow set

rare rover
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we were talking about crowns in general

open hare
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1 crown battle drill

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Whatever I got my two crowns from

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Then future events and modes

sly nymph
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is this done then

midnight stirrup
open hare
sly nymph
open hare
sly nymph
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for surtr

open hare
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Then yeah

sly nymph
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he doesn't need skill upgrades either ig

open hare
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Don’t level up any skills unless it directly supports Surtr damage

open hare
sly nymph
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that's like

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ardelia battle skill

open hare
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Is my advice

sly nymph
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it increases the susceptibility i thiknk

heavy fossil
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is there any gear/weapons that affect sp regen and/or combo skill cooldown and/or ult generation?

open hare
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Idk about sp regen, never really looked

unkempt oak
# midnight stirrup Surtr is the limited on banner, Avywenna is a 5-star. The gap is gonna be big.

Not necessarily big, avy is more than competitive
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surtr did 31.04s although she done 18s i think during beta

frozen tide
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and a lot of gear has ultgen buff on it

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a lot of weapons also prob has ult gen on it

copper ridge
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Finally doing endgame stuff.

The rewards from RE-Crisis bosses cost 120 and seem similar to the rewards from 80 cost Crisis Drills.

From the rewards list, I can't tell how they are distinct. Which is optimal?

frozen tide
midnight stirrup
frozen tide
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cause you get 6 fixed for 80 resin from crisis drill

midnight stirrup
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Now do that in aoe scenarios

unkempt oak
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idk, I wouldn't rule out avy's aoe either

heavy fossil
unkempt oak
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she has gib

open hare
unkempt oak
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only weakness would be those worms that can't be gathered

frozen tide
manic blade
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can run xiranite gloves for some ult gain

fresh lynx
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is max efficient wuling factory 5/min Yazhen and 8/min batteries with 1/min component for anyone else when you switch to <1d?

frozen tide
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what

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you can get higher effiency than that

fresh lynx
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i dont think so, that was the max efficient setup

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its the 6 12 setup

frozen tide
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if you already know its max efficient why bother asking

dry kindle
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Not even right channel 🗿

manic blade
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theorycrafting my shi

rare rover
fresh lynx
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because im not sure if its setup the best way... you even thought there could be higher efficiency

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since when you toggle to <1d the yield drops to 5 and 8

sly nymph
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is umbral monument 2 teams

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it says it has "those forsaken by the land" and "inorganic construct" stages

dry kindle
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No

rare rover
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lowkey its too early for the game to require 2 team content especially if its suppose to be hard

rare rover
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most of us are still focusing on 1 team

rugged kiln
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Is gilberta usable on the fire team with laeva?

rare rover
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yes

sturdy hawk
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any important mastery breakpoints? wondering for leava if i should m3 her skill 1 or her ult

manic blade
rare rover
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mhm like the game hasnt been out for more than half a month, its too early

manic blade
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I got a mean phys or last rite team I could build when the time comes 😈

eternal jacinth
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Man

rare rover
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PerliDerp i suppose i can whip out pog

eternal jacinth
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I can lwk build any team

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Except

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Yvonne main dps

untold turtle
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Any good resources for Laevatain ultimate energy breakpoints at p4+ ?

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I lucked into P3 and wanna see if P4 is worth even trying for.

merry gust
dry kindle
rare rover
merry gust
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Redeem Dream >>> Everything else

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Everything else feels like you're disabled

eternal jacinth
merry gust
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It's pure dopamine

rare rover
merry gust
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W Sworce for flaming me into building this

untold turtle
strong nimbus
eternal jacinth
merry gust
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Press the buttons vro

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1 cycle dopamine spiker combo deluxe

dry kindle
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P3 tide build is 2 combo 2 battle 4 team skill

manic blade
dry kindle
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P4 redeemer build is 1 combo 1 battle 3 team skill

untold turtle
merry gust
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No bro don't fall for the trap just run 1 cycle

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Pull that p4

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run 1 cycle

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join the cult

untold turtle
manic blade
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WeGood

rare rover
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blasphemous propaganda

merry gust
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it's right there click it

lime bear
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when does the timer for boss trim starts?

merry gust
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It'll save u

rare rover
lime bear
manic blade
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Does endgame mode let you start with an ult was it in beta

lime bear
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I buffed inside the arena

lime bear
rare rover
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what boss are u doing

manic blade
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Ah sheet

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One cycle plebs gonna take over

rare rover
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dont let them decieve u

manic blade
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I see big numbers and happy match this plebeians

merry gust
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It's the truth

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Join us

rare rover
rare rover
merry gust
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Don't run away from it

rare rover
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FIEND

normal nymph
prisma venture
copper ridge
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is there a way to increase max crops planted on field?

I have like half of it used and I can't plant more

copper ridge
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yeah seems to be 20 max. what a wasted system. I was just looking at both fields and if they can be automated with sprinklers and ran into this.

sly nymph
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where are your ginseng bro

dry mason
rare rover
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whats a ginsing? i only know kuntz tube

proud vector
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And you’d need to use up that free space

tender zephyr
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Remove plot system everything should work on planter and seeder loop

fervent perch
compact bridge
ashen scroll
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What is this channel? Meta talk or make sht things up channel?

rugged vale
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riic base is main source of money and xp, dijang isnt

compact bridge
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Yeah they shift that burden to factory

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Although dijiang probably still got a potential as the main source of xp

pulsar sail
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I notice a recommended weapons appear to fall into 3 categories, one is for stats, and the next two one is usually just buffs arts damage, and the next usually aligns with the operators casting skills . . . usually . . .
which would be better usually?

frozen tide
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Dijiang doesn't feel like big help rn but over time it'll help build a reserve of resources you are bound to need eventually

frozen tide
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You usually use whatever gives your main carry best damage

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But then some comps like premium physical you kinda want dmg on everyone

summer flower
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Premium physicial?

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What's in that Comp?

compact bridge
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Aint no way i only need 2 days for those owl and everything is maxed

frozen tide
frozen tide
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I have like 100+ blue and purple aerospace just rotting away

blazing lake
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Kunst tube does the job better...

untold turtle
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they'll probably give us a dump to put the extra mats in. depot delivery sends u there anyways, so by the end of the patch if ur doin those daily, u'll have a ton

frozen tide
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Im hoping they'll let you craft higher tier by combining lower

compact bridge
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New char will eat those lower eventually

frozen tide
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We are talking about aerospace materials

untold turtle
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there's kinda too many of them and they respawn a lil too quickly.

blazing lake
untold turtle
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even if there's a use, doing them all daily is a bit much.

ocean hawk
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because

frozen tide
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When gold tier aerospace gets released let me combine like 20 purple for 1 gold

ocean hawk
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even upgrading in later lever for dijian

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it needs bunch of the lower tier one

frozen tide
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Ic

ocean hawk
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but it will be different if example it only need the gold tier one if released

frozen tide
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I should collect em more diligently then

ocean hawk
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then I agree to conversion system

frozen tide
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I have been slacking

civic wolf
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is Flourite worth investing for Yvonne 💀

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ive tried Snowshine Xaihi Ake on crowd encounters and relying almost entirely on Snowshine on cryo app is a struggle

summer flower
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Weapon mats don't get out dated

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They don't have split

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Exp mats do

frozen tide
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You should always run xaihi on cryo comps

summer flower
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Why?

frozen tide
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Because she has absurd cryo dmg amp that no other character comes anywhere close

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As well as applying cryo herself

crude crag
frozen tide
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Her battle skill also applies amp

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Which is buffed by her potential

summer flower
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Ohh

crude crag
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and once u manage to pump xaihi's intellect to 1.2k, every cyro/nature operator in party shall get 24%+36% amp which is 60% amp

summer flower
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That's nice

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And 2 elemnts at same time

frozen tide
frozen tide
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P5 deto and 033 frontiers only gives 850ish i think

crude crag
frozen tide
#

Which still results in absurd amp numbers

frozen tide
#

With deto unit atleast

#

Cause frontiers doesn't have int main stat and xaihi isn't int main stat to start with

#

Low base int to work with

#

And deto is also main attribute flat although it does have secondary percentage

crude crag
frozen tide
#

Deto is probs still just better even if it's not best for int maxxing

frozen tide
#

How are you gonna consume corrosion on xaihi

civic rover
#

why is this blocked

jagged forge
#

whats the size of the current smallest cryston component setup

civic rover
#

while essence upgrading, has someone hit the very low chance

frozen tide
dry kindle
#

ult has cap

jagged forge
crude crag
rare rover
crude crag
frozen tide
frozen tide
#

To the point where I don't think its physically possible to reach

frozen tide
crude crag
#

so anyway this weapon gives int and 2nd attri at max

jagged forge
dry kindle
#

i fuckin hate en wording

frozen tide
#

Im pretty certain its only for int increase portion

dry kindle
#

theres still no prts wiki for endfield

frozen tide
#

I wish i could read chinese

#

But i can only read kor jp

next helm
#

What does the farming field look like

#

efficiently

frozen tide
#

I do wonder why they capped the int if you can't even come close to the cap

#

Future proofing ig

next helm
#

How many sprinklers does one need

crude crag
#

this gear skill will activate for xaihi right?

next helm
#

Does her skill recover SP?

crude crag
#

sad, so its useless

dry kindle
#

no decent endfield wikis

tender zephyr
#

can wulf use that sacrificing his ult gain stats

#

or ult gain >>>

dry kindle
#

no

tender zephyr
#

having no ult gain stat is just bad?

dry kindle
tender zephyr
#

oh only ake

#

just tested it takes forever to charge ult PerliDerp

bold rose
#

anyone think Mi Fu and Fangyi would share a banner

#

one 5* one 6*

celest mountain
#

How much is a whole bar of SP? Does anyone have a fixed number for that?

next helm
#

Someone said here that you can only plant 16 plots in wuling

#

But I can do more?

tender zephyr
#

but low ult gain% is sadge

celest mountain
gritty olive
stoic ruin
#

can pog proc xiranite or it is better to go. 2x hotwork kit + 2x ult gain pieces?

compact bridge
celest mountain
frozen tide
#

Talent description in game usually states it

#

If there are other factors effecting it it will be from potential or talent unlocks

summer flower
#

I wasnt aware at time of destroying my gold gear facotry line

#

That artificing eats so much

#

So i kinda probably need minimum production line

dry kindle
#

anyone know unbral cn name 💀

frozen tide
tender zephyr
#

it starts from 25% ult gain

gritty olive
#

We cant have a “number” ingame sadly but we could at least extrapolate to see via pixel countign

summer flower
#

I'm waiting for short numbers setting

#

So i can read dmg numbers without fighting against dyslexia as much

frozen tide
#

I think

next helm
#

Is the 180 flat atk better than the 27% atk consumable?

dry kindle
#

yes

next helm
#

Is it cause of the crit?

dry kindle
#

no

#

flat attack is just that stupid

next helm
#

Am I missing something

dry kindle
#

[(base atk * 1+% bonuses) + flat bonuses] * 1+ability value bonuses

next helm
#

Oh flat gets increased by %atk modifiers (not the attribute ones)?

gritty olive
#

Ability value bonuses being?

dry kindle
#

main and sub stat

#

also isnt it 27% damage not atk cardi

next helm
dry kindle
#

wao

#

also nvm at max the 27% atk is like 200 atk better

#

so yeah

#

ginseng crit gambling go brrr

blazing lake
#

KUNST TUBE FOREVER!!

dry kindle
#

explode

drifting quest
#

It depends on the unit

blazing lake
#

It doesn't depend!

#

It's cheap!

drifting quest
#

The more base attack you already have the more attack % scales

#

The less base attack you already have the more flat atk scales

#

Since it's 180 is a bigger % of your tbatk

#

I dont know exactly when the cutoff point would be

next helm
#

Someone said 16 plots is max

#

but I can place more?

drifting quest
#

I have 20

#

Idk where the 16 came from

blazing lake
astral walrus
#

What set you all settled on for lifeng?

dry kindle
#

no one farms in valley

drifting quest
#

Xir is i think the current

next helm
#

Farm in valley till oroberyls

blazing lake
#

Every penny for itself

next helm
#

Shuo do you have 20x ginseng?

blazing lake
#

I got bottled water setup for valley 4

next helm
#

jinseng or whatever

drifting quest
next helm
#

plots I mean

drifting quest
#

Oh yeah

#

Should do

#

Maybe I miscounted

#

Ill check when I get on today

#

But I believe it was 4 preexisting + 16 extra crafted

#

2 full rows and then 4? On the third

next helm
#

The other plants not worth it?

rugged vale
#

You are very limited might as well full send on 1 plant

ocean hawk
#

i think

#

the one for fried rice

#

i mean in the ends it depends what u need

wintry hazel
#

Y'all act plant that much?

drifting quest
#

Once you have a ginseng stockpile its prob ok to swap

wintry hazel
#

Just curious

drifting quest
#

A bunch of random stuff for orundum

#

I dont check it that often so slow going

wintry hazel
#

Oh

next helm
#

Depends if you need to use it every reset

frozen tide
#

Ginseng gamba every day of the week

dry kindle
#

we fucking love crit gambling

frozen tide
#

But if we do we should not run ginseng

#

Gamba on the 5 percent landing on every hit

#

And tale the atk

dry kindle
#

explode

plucky venture
#

Hi, may i ask, if i drew 5 times using the limited hh ticket, does it mean that after this banner, i will need 75+120 a total of 200 pulls if i lose 50/50 twice?

drifting quest
#

120 at the most

#

There are 2 different pity systems

#

Any 6* (50/50)
Every 80 (more like 70ish in practice)

Guaranteed rate up at 120 if you do not have the rate up

#

The first is saved between banners, the second is unique per banner

plucky venture
#

If i only pull 5 this banner but not going for laevatain, does next banner bring over the 5 for 120?

drifting quest
#

No

#

The 5 saves for the 80, but not the 120

plucky venture
#

So if i dont pull this banner at all, next banner i will need to do 75 before i can start the 120 hard pity?

drifting quest
#

No they are simultaneous
You current have 5 pulls done on Laevateins banner
The pity to any 6* is 75
The pity to a Laevatein is 115

Next banner comes
The pity to a 6* is 75
The pity to a Gilberta is 120

You do 75 pulls and lose the 50/50
The pity to a 6* resets to 80
The pity to a Gilberta is now 45

#

If you stop pulling here then in banner 3:
Pity to a 6* is 80
Pity to a Yvonne resets to 120

#

Likewise if you win the 50/50 the 120 guarantee expires

plucky venture
#

Icic, thank you!

drifting quest
#

At worst the most required to pull on any single banner is 120
The average over many banners is hence about ~95 split between some banners where you get the rate up in ~70 and the others where you get them at 120

#

While it is a more punishing system for people who just throw pulls onto the current banner it's far better for those who save their pulls for the characters they want, when compared to other gacha in the same genre

#

Is markedly worse than some gacha in other genre though, like the original Arknights

rugged kiln
#

Do you think that Gilberta will be BiS for Tianshi Zhuang?

dry mason
frozen tide
lime bear
#

@drifting quest is Fortifying better than Kunst or Jakub LifengThink

drifting quest
#

We have absolutely no way to know but given how much current Electric team is propped up my Gilb assuming she does not either
A) overlap with Gilberta
B) be very reliant on Electric Infliction
C) probably some extra stuff I can't think of right now
then i'd expect gilb to be good

drifting quest
#

no its dmg%

plucky venture
drifting quest
wintry hazel
frozen tide
#

I would just save

#

Unless you somehow have like 200 pulls saved unrealistic to pull for both gilb and 1.1 electro

#

F2p

wintry hazel
#

I have 50k ori rn with 31 headhunt

frozen tide
#

Even then

drifting quest
#

Gilb is in a weird spot where she's a little homeless right now, with 2 real teams that aren't speedrunner illnesses.

There's Electric which is up in their how it will be post 1.1, 1.2 and hence we don't know if Gilb is good then

Then there's Yv*nne. I need not say more for anyone who has been in this channel regularly.

That said Gilberta's THE potential woman, she should only get better with time if we have units who like her niche

frozen tide
#

The worst that can happen from saving

#

Is just pulling for potential of a strong ele dps

#

Which is probs good

#

But

#

If you pull for gilb

drifting quest
frozen tide
#

She might just not be good with whatever future ele dps

drifting quest
#

wait no i misunderstood

next helm
wintry hazel
drifting quest
#

This is what mine looks like having gotten her early

wintry hazel
#

Cause I'm running avy rn so idk if I should just take the gamble

drifting quest
#

are you sure they actually own laev

frozen tide
#

Another big factor is that ard you get for free is already an insane 6 star output supp

next helm
#

Yes

#

I've seen them play

ocean hawk
drifting quest
#

I'd expect it to be bugged then

next helm
#

Thats why I am so confused

ocean hawk
#

so it doesnt count intoo pity

frozen tide
#

And you have f2p available 5 star supps too

ocean hawk
#

so the pity still rolling

#

theres the explanation on the banner details

frozen tide
#

What you rly need is a 6 star ele dps that comes out in the future

next helm
#

Before 30 you still get the guarantee?

wintry hazel
ocean hawk
#

it says 86

drifting quest
#

the 86 is also for laev

#

which shouldnt be the case

next helm
#

Yeah i am confused af

ocean hawk
#

lemme get the ss

#

wait

drifting quest
#

it should have changed to the 240 pull token if they own laev

next helm
#

Should it not be saying 200+ till pot copy

drifting quest
#

yes

wintry hazel
drifting quest
#

206 pulls to a token

ocean hawk
#

theres 1 condition

frozen tide
#

Dps is the role most dependent on star rating

drifting quest
#

if you're suggesting theirs isnt bugged then mine is bugged instead

wintry hazel
drifting quest
#

I have 1 Laev, sub 120 pulls, my next is at the 240 mark

ocean hawk
#

no

#

I mean

#

heres the thing

#

the free 10 pull u get after 30 pull in a chartered banner

#

doesnt count into pity

drifting quest
#

yes

ocean hawk
#

so if u get the lae in that free 10 pull

lime bear
# drifting quest fortifying infusion?

the first ginseng recipe, 2nd is ginseng meat stew and I havent unlocked it yet.

Kunst is +25% All DMG, Jakub is +27% ATK, Fortifying is CRate +9% and All DMG +18%, Ginseng Stew is +11% and +180 ATK iirc

drifting quest
#

ahh

#

im with you now

#

i get it

#

yeah that makes sense

ocean hawk
#

there u go

lime bear
#

idk how useful CR is

drifting quest
#

the cr is useless

lime bear
#

for Laevatain

drifting quest
#

sure it can help but its critfishing

lime bear
#

all I see is less dmg and atk in total

drifting quest
#

the 180 attack is the value

ocean hawk
#

kunzt tube is better i think

#

or better the jakub one

drifting quest
#

it depends on external attack buffs, your current base attack

#

etc

wintry hazel
drifting quest
#

no one has done the math on food buffs at different attack so just go with whats cheapest

#

ginseng is cheap

frozen tide
ocean hawk
#

anyway the followup @next helm

#

and for shuo

#

the text proof from the details

next helm
#

Why does this exist

ocean hawk
drifting quest
#

its 10 pulls for free

next helm
#

Okay like 1% of players get a freebie here

rose flint
#

Seems like a net positive to me

wintry hazel
#

Idk if they will ever rerun

next helm
#

And get a freebie on the guarantee

wintry hazel
#

Char

next helm
#

huh

#

Even less

ocean hawk
next helm
#

Cause you have to hit laev with the ticket

drifting quest
#

going to 120 if you get them in 30 is a bit of waste

crude crag
#

by right we get 25 free pulls at next banner if we done 60 pulls for this banner

frozen tide
hollow raptor
#

over the long term

wintry hazel
next helm
#

I don't mean the free 10 pull

ocean hawk
#

eh ?

next helm
#

Its specifically for people that want to go till 120 (maybe get potentials) and get the on banner op in the 30

ocean hawk
crude crag
#

next banner pull we only need 55 pulls for 80 pity

hollow raptor
#

since it doesn't count towards pity it's only fair it doesn't reset it either

next helm
#

But you can just save oro when you pull her randomly

ocean hawk
#

i mean they still can keep pulling anyway

drifting quest
#

yes its unfair that some people can guarantee an extra copy for cheaper

crude crag
drifting quest
#

its just as unfair that some people can get 3 laev in a single 10 pull

ocean hawk
next helm
#

Or does it not interact with the normal pity too?

ocean hawk
#

while winning the free 10 pull from 30 pull doesnt reset it

#

so its better

hollow raptor
#

it's just a nice bonus all around. guaranteed p1 for the lucky if they so desire, lower overall cost of limiteds for everyone else

drifting quest
#

welcome to rng and gacha

ocean hawk
#

yeah

next helm
#

Oh now I get it

drifting quest
#

the free 10 pull is basically done on a second banner

#

with its own pity

hollow raptor
#

it has no pity

frozen tide
crude crag
hollow raptor
#

it's just 10 phantom pulls

ocean hawk
#

so player that won 5050 early might have p0 on 120 pull, while the one winning that 10 free pull will have p1 on 120 (worst case)

hollow raptor
#

that exist just to increase your odds long term

wintry hazel
next helm
#

PHantom pulls

rose flint
ocean hawk
#

its the headhunting dosier

hollow raptor
ocean hawk
#

for the next banner

drifting quest
crude crag
#

3 more days to next banner, r u all excited?

ocean hawk
#

and it does indeed counted to that next banner pity

drifting quest
#

the 60 pull rebate does count to pity

rose flint
storm oar
#

complete waste of energy but my OCD made me do it, finally got all 4 teammates with 3/3 essences

ocean hawk
#

i dont find any text about that one

hollow raptor
hollow raptor
neat snow
#

I need that one

crude crag
drifting quest
storm oar
ocean hawk
storm oar
#

the 4* and 5*s in laevs team are gonna get filtered out

ocean hawk
#

thats the thing I asked

storm oar
#

ofc

drifting quest
#

it does get counted

rose flint
#

Everything right now will get powercrept don't stress about it it happens in every single game

hollow raptor
#

as long as they don't release new effects eventually essences will be trivialized

ocean hawk
#

ah

#

nvm

hollow raptor
#

only artificing will be a major sink

ocean hawk
#

i misread ur message soz @drifting quest

crude crag
#

i think investing on support character is the best, they cant get power creep

drifting quest
#

thats why there's the gacha addicts saying you should do 60 pulls on every banner
20 free > do 40 > get 20 'free'

ocean hawk
#

bruh

drifting quest
#

i do it all the time

ocean hawk
#

my bad

storm oar
#

which one first for Laev

#

These are gonna take a hot minute

rose flint
drifting quest
#

atk should scale marginally better than int

hollow raptor
ocean hawk
#

I prefer using gel forr one of the 5 to 6

storm oar
#

You mean use gels for both... the success rate of this has gotta be like <1%

hollow raptor
#

it's 2.6%

ocean hawk
#

but if u dont

drifting quest
#

i had to pity 6 of them

#

so yeah

#

have fun

storm oar
#

i guess i have no use for engraving tickets anymore, time to just stock up

drifting quest
#

you can farm for other weapons in the mean time

hollow raptor
#

im emptying out shop for upgrade materials

storm oar
#

I dont know what else would possibly be useful

drifting quest
#

if you have nothing left to farm for then sure

#

depends on the team and their weapons

hollow raptor
storm oar
#

I dont see any of the 6* weapons being useful from here on out, that arent limited

drifting quest
#

there's a lot of very strong standard weapons

hollow raptor
#

you will need fodder essences for future weapons too

#

so it doesn't matter if the weapon doesn't exist

drifting quest
#

if all you're doing is farming fodder no reason to waste tickets

#

but if you're farming anyway there are weapons worth chasing

hollow raptor
#

true, but we get more tickets than sanity, so may as well target farm for current weapons while at it

#

no reason to farm randomly

twilit quail
#

I mean you also need to stock up like 3 million money

#

so you can afford to raise 1 character

drifting quest
#

paypal me 30 million tcreds

storm oar
#

Im saving for Fangyi, I don't have any interest pulling until her

#

so ill just stock up

storm oar
ocean hawk
#

so uhh, after reading above topic like 1 hour ago or smth, I saw that gilberta is kinda....

#

now idk if i should pull her or not

storm oar
#

kinda what

ocean hawk
#

not specific enough or smth

#

i mean she can be used on many teams

#

but not the most best one atm ?

storm oar
#

I mean Ardelia exists and thats already enough in a lot of cases

#

For now at least

drifting quest
#

Gilberta's issue in a lot of comps is summarised in 2 short words

#

'Nature Infliction'

ocean hawk
#

elaborate pls

#

didnt ardelia give nature infliction too ?

drifting quest
#

Gilberta applies Nature Infliction
Many comps want their own Heat/Cryo/etc infliction and hence dislike Gilberta providing it. Her increased Suscept over Ardelia does not mean increased damage if you have to build an entire new rotation around it for most people

#

Ardelia does not apply Nature Infliction

ocean hawk
#

wait

frozen tide
#

Maybe in the future they'll release a nature consuming dps

ocean hawk
#

nature damage != nature infliction ?

frozen tide
#

Currently there is none

storm oar
#

wait how does Ardelia activate her weapon if she cant apply nature

drifting quest
#

The teams Gilberta does go in are Yvonne, who can consume Nature Inflictions
And Electric, who kinda doesn't care as much but still has to redo their rotation to fit her

#

she force applies Corrosion, the reaction, not the infliction

ocean hawk
storm oar
#

ah

frozen tide
storm oar
#

Thats funny

frozen tide
#

And the battle skill eats said corrosion

#

She deadass has 0 nature infliction

#

Which is a great thing

ocean hawk
#

so, ardelia is.... fake nature or smth

frozen tide
#

Makes her very versatile

storm oar
#

Ardelia just the goat

ocean hawk
#

she can apply corrosive

#

but

storm oar
#

literally

ocean hawk
#

no need for the infliction

frozen tide
#

Ardelia crutches on her beast king summon smh

next helm
#

Waiting for arts infliction to become a real stat

frozen tide
#

What

next helm
#

Intensity*

drifting quest
#

it is real

#

physical stacks it

#

and its probably the best a cope subdps wulfgard can do as well

frozen tide
#

Last rite comp perlica stacks it

#

And ard fits in whatever intensity she can atop of eternal xiranite as well

#

Pog stacks intensity on phys

next helm
#

Suportive set that lets her stack arts intensity more

#

So corrosion does something

frozen tide
#

Corrosion lasts like 7 secs when her combo cd is 18 secs

#

But if you eat corrosion for arts amp it lasts 30 and gives eternal bonus

#

You can let corrosion sit for full duration after first amp proc

#

But most of her putput is still from the amp transition

jagged forge
#

whats theorycrafting for

drifting quest
#

theorycrafting

jagged forge
#

...

frozen tide
drifting quest
#

ardelia enhanced skill consumes corrosion to apply all type susceptibility

frozen tide
#

Her battle skill consumes corrosion