#theorycrafting
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there's no limit to how many tries you have with artificing so you'll eventually get there
still feels pretty bad when you hit the pity though
I got battery and syringe farm in wuling. You guys are farming gold gear disc's (forgot it's name) fully in wuling?
you really only get like 5k-10k components then stop
What’s the best 2 stats to engrave for laev sig?
I want to farm some, but gotta build that again
I forgor
Fym 2
You get a 3/3 then max it
EU /Na?
We can only select two right? So I’m asking what two should I pick when engraving while I try to get a 3/3
max in wuling is 2 xiranite battery and 1 jincao/yazhen drink production lines
lol ty
pog sig 🤯
Alright nice ty
Honorary mention
why dont pick Twilight
Its the same rate 🗿
rapid ascent 
will yvonne get much better when gilb comes out?
gilb is already out
and no yvonne still kinda sucks
Yvonne rework soon trust
Module will save her

You can already offbanner gilb
yea i just didn’t so was gonna pull her on her banner
Fucking ending it all
3+6 as well
Oh wait p5 is just battle
Anyway

For avywenna what would give me more damage?
- Will
- Electro damage
- Combo skill damage?
Looking to see what i should focus on artificing while im still building up money
when it says "after a wearers skill" does it mean combo skill or battle skill or both
Tf is this dmg
best dps fr
how big a difference do the current limited unit sigs make vs bp weapons vs other f2p options?
theorycrafting is she gojo

I'm trimming it so hard.
is blight the thinh the doctor is fighting btw
If anyone asks about yvonne sig just throw this at them
Oh wow, Navi R9 is a 12% decrease. That's wild
Yes
oh so 3rd banner is just dead weight gg
WHy complain about being given time to save?
Besides, there are plenty of people who love Yvonne from the story/design and are probably gonna pull anyways
She's just kinda bad rn cuz her partners are sparse and not good
do we have this for laevatain and gilberta?
search itwl laevatain should have one
i made just have one weap comparison for surtr and its this
what does r9 and r4 mean
rank 9 and rank 4 passives
ah ok essences right
for laev should i run Tide Fall + Hot work or Hot Work + Slab, or something else, idk what's good
alright, and is it helpful to artifice the ultimate gain, or just raw stats
Dear lord slab </3
so ultimate gain = intellect > strength?
in the iana teambuilding sheet do you just increase the ultimate gain efficiency stat for the armor set for laevatain?
idt therse breakpoints to that
and final question, do i run full ult regen or the SP set? Fortmaker or a damage buff sword? for akekrui
The 2 combo ult cycle.
If just tide fall armor is enough then no need to artifice %ult gain, for now.

What kinda partner would it take to make Yvonne good?
Gilberta on crack that stuns boss for 15 seconds
Gilb is just pull sig unless you're poverty
broo why does avywenna not consume electric stacks
trimming the 3 bosses without gilberta is hard as fuck
What does R means?
Breh
Gilberta with LR aoe on skill kinda cracked
Im seeing mob waves just dissapear in one shot
Anyone know how much ulti gain laev would need to get her ulti up in 1 rotation, and is it possible with our current gear
anyone has a link to the video of the china guy killing rhodagn in 16.6seconds with last rite?
207.7
About that
whats for 2 combo ult regen cycle.
I has 2 questions
Tide chest
- Do tertiary stats for a character do anything outside phys res / treatment bonus for example
can estella dps
hows her numbers
Unless you mean 1 battle 2 combo then 🗿
- With ardelia is it better to consume the corrosion w bskill on 15s cd for xiranite uptime or leave it for corrosion res burn
Last Rite's hits always feel so impactful
That combo gotta be one of the flashiest in the game.
Yeah Idek her proper rotation. Just to find out if there's point in artificing ult gain on tide fall.
🫃
Nope
chat what is endmin preffered mods?
Mods?
Shud I use my sanity for m3 or essence?
Also does surtr need m3 on both her ult and bs?
sorry like mastery
m3
Easier and guaranteed multiplier increase. Essence is RNG.
I mean it's also timegated
You said m3 as an option, so I assume you have enough crowns
Ye but I have to wait for it in bp 
How does it usually take to get a 3/3 essence?
Maybe I Shud just wait for essence until Yvonne banner come
Considering discount event

Instantly or days
And then once you do have it, goodluck with very low chance etching
Basically guaranteed to always pity

i got my 3/3 in 4 days
Guess I'll m3 for now and stack up on permits until discount event
Its probably gonna be capped

Ticket cap.

Tbf you better farm essence first, since the diff is huge.
how far can etching essences go? like in hsr you have natural 4 relics that are always better than natural 3, is there something like that here for essences too? since natural/raw essence's stat levels can vary, is there a cap on the amount of tiers a essence can have like say if i had a natural 3 levels into one stat could it go higher than if it was a natural 1? since weapons can have their potentials raised for more stat slots
Esp. if you are using un upgraded essence (which you should).
I don't have permits 

I was artificing gear
Hey I got the screenshot
are there any endgame crops that we need to be planting?
i havent looked at automating the 2 fields yet.
i never take dmg. i am the perfect Jeet Kun Do Sifu

hell, a hell amount of time
fraud not a oneshot
Only x runs a day
I-it's not that crazy... I'm almost there
I got mine after like 15 runs with doubling sanity
Fortyfying or Ginseng Meat Stew is better
it's not that bad, maybe a day or two
you just farm essences with valley4 currency and artificing with wuling currency
or a week....
idk i've gotten all mine within 500 sanity
Wait wut
I use laevatain tho
ok then dip as soon as you get 3/3 essence
Don't her essence in wuling?
Etching essence requires artificing mats??
what's the cycle for fire team with Antal?
no artificing gear
I do double that with her combo

Goodjob tho
so you're never going to artifice gear ever again?
ok cool
But I thought I was farming for essence
lr kills at 3 stacks if using ult btw
Hifumi what potential/refine ur LR at
I missing some kind of tech I'm sure
p4r5
losing 
Does weapon or role indicate each other?
Potential is LR dupes, is refine for her weapon?
Huh?
i need fucking xaihi m6
2% more amp
hm im at p2r3
when


Longshot, but anyone done trimmed Marble with yvonne? 

surely I have LR 

yeah. thats why I'm thinking I just need a new team set up for better stagger. Since with snow shine I don't get anything to really parry the red circles except for like 1 move 
Oh wait does esssences apply ALL applicable buffs on the character??
Never farmed for them before
Does anyone know if stagger effectiveness works on stagger from lift/knockdown?
Or does it only apply to the stagger caused by your actual moves
I know arts intensity affects the stagger caused by lift/knockdown
What would you estimate in percent higher dps Laevatain does compared to Avywenna? if both have sig weapons, I want to pull but don't want to regret if the dps gap isn't that big
Beeg
Avywenna is a nuker so it’s one big damage
Surtr, I mean Laevatain does high consistent damage with supports and her ult
She can shred bosses and mobs making her pretty useful in general
So Laevatain is a good pull
But can you estimate just how much higher dps, I won't pull if it's close enough to Avywenna's 🤔
So if you pull for Laevatain and build her, you will be better off than building Avywenna
I already built Avywenna but want to switch
How far in?
lvl 80 avywenna and Jet, and Arclight lvl 80 too but the other 2 are still lvl 60
💀
You can still pull for Surtr if you want, but if you already built your team that far, it’s gonna be hard to build a Surtr team
Once more content comes out, we will probably get more exp and materials
Like I said before, Avywenna is a nuker
So she is good for bosses or tough mobs
who now?
I meant Laevatain
Funnily enough, I have her at level 1
Rip me
Do you think 2 teams will be required later, so I can still do both?
If they add a double team mode which in my opinion will happen at some point then maybe
You can probably get away with building both at some point
Getting two teams to level 80 is pretty feasible right now
Many Gacha games that I have played in my experience do them
Too much sanity tbh
But if you tried to hyperinvest in one team getting your characters to 90, it's too much
I have 2 teams at 80
And 1 level 90 character
But I also burned origemtry on refreshes
u also gotta account for gear artificing, essense, talants, your basically forced to focus on a team right now cause trying to do two is too much
Don’t be like this guy
Sometimes you don’t even need to do gear artificing or essence
Talents is more than enough
You can get two teams decent enough, but the high end investing is going to drain all your resources
Especially since you usually just need to upgrade the support part of the support
For now
for current content yes but if u want to invest fully into a team u just need to take that into account, im not sure how difficult future content will be so 
ok ty but can you give any estimate percent number you guess that Laevatain does higher in dps than Avywenna, like 50% more?
Heheheh….
We don’t have any math geeks in here for that
uh "alot"
too many variables to account for to achieve that number
whats the most damage you've pulled on awvyena?
You can use her ult more, her skills do a lot, and blah blah blah
is it worth it to level up Pogra and Chen's other skills beyond this point? or I should invest my resources on other characters instead?
would not reflect truthfully
Avywenna is just a nuker
dont use m on any character that isnt your main dps right now its too early
Man, if you are building a physical team, then just go for it
Follow one of those meta YouTube guides
I wish there were more ult gain equips
idk crowns are hard to come by unless u got kaching, id be sparse with them this early on unless your mind is dead set on one character
Will probably come later with more regions
which wont be for a month 
The battlepass is very small kaching
Don’t forget umbral monument
the 30 dollar pack is not as small kaching
And character drill
But right now investing in ult gain gimps your damage if you need more than 1 piece
Chen I think feels really comfortable with 1 piece of ult Regen
theres a bundle that gives u 10 pulls 2k arsenal and 10 crowns
I’m talking about the battlepass
yeah and i noted that and stated the pack isnt as small as a kaching
But Da Pan needs pot 5 to comfortably slot in energy regen... otherwise he has to use a rainbow set
we were talking about crowns in general
16 crowns in the battlepass
1 crown battle drill
Whatever I got my two crowns from
Then future events and modes
is this done then
Surtr is the limited on banner, Avywenna is a 5-star. The gap is gonna be big.
Basically
and i can just leave his ass at 60/80 for gold gear right
He’s just your support right
for surtr
Then yeah
he doesn't need skill upgrades either ig
Don’t level up any skills unless it directly supports Surtr damage
I got him, but I’m a waifu man
Only upgrade support skills that actually boost the main dps
Is my advice
it increases the susceptibility i thiknk
is there any gear/weapons that affect sp regen and/or combo skill cooldown and/or ult generation?
Wuling items
Idk about sp regen, never really looked
Not necessarily big, avy is more than competitive
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surtr did 31.04s although she done 18s i think during beta
“Beta.”
the frontiers set bonus reduces combo skill cooldown
and a lot of gear has ultgen buff on it
a lot of weapons also prob has ult gen on it
Finally doing endgame stuff.
The rewards from RE-Crisis bosses cost 120 and seem similar to the rewards from 80 cost Crisis Drills.
From the rewards list, I can't tell how they are distinct. Which is optimal?
how much is the fixed gold talent mat amount from re crisis
Ah the burst unit killed the afk boss a little faster than the aoe unit
cause you get 6 fixed for 80 resin from crisis drill
idk, I wouldn't rule out avy's aoe either
does frontiers set also have ultgen buff?
she has gib
Yes, do so
only weakness would be those worms that can't be gathered
no it has ult dmg buff pieces tho and 3 set has a trigger that increases team dmg
can run xiranite gloves for some ult gain
ok thx
is max efficient wuling factory 5/min Yazhen and 8/min batteries with 1/min component for anyone else when you switch to <1d?
if you already know its max efficient why bother asking
Not even right channel 🗿
theorycrafting my shi

because im not sure if its setup the best way... you even thought there could be higher efficiency
since when you toggle to <1d the yield drops to 5 and 8
is umbral monument 2 teams
it says it has "those forsaken by the land" and "inorganic construct" stages
No
lowkey its too early for the game to require 2 team content especially if its suppose to be hard
No?
most of us are still focusing on 1 team
Is gilberta usable on the fire team with laeva?
yes
any important mastery breakpoints? wondering for leava if i should m3 her skill 1 or her ult
yeah prolly gonna be a while before it comes
bskill and ult
mhm like the game hasnt been out for more than half a month, its too early
I got a mean phys or last rite team I could build when the time comes 😈
Man
i suppose i can whip out pog
Any good resources for Laevatain ultimate energy breakpoints at p4+ ?
I lucked into P3 and wanna see if P4 is worth even trying for.


From what I know P4 and P5 are the best token for her
It's pure dopamine

W Sworce for flaming me into building this
aye, but i wanna know if it'll actually let her get ult in 1 battle skill, or if that playstyle will be optimal at P4+. if it's still better to just build for damage and get ult in 2 battle skills + 2 combo skills, then I'll prolly just chill at p3 since not rly that different.
I wish I could have snowshine parry always up. now thats pure dopamine 
Ehh idk man haven’t looked into tokens much yet
Press the buttons vro
1 cycle dopamine spiker combo deluxe
P3 tide build is 2 combo 2 battle 4 team skill
You no longer need tide fall or if running one cycle ult build you can use hot works gloves
P4 redeemer build is 1 combo 1 battle 3 team skill
hmm, yeah makes sense that it'd let you drop tide fall. that sounds p.good.
No bro don't fall for the trap just run 1 cycle
Pull that p4
run 1 cycle
join the cult
whats the 1 cycle ult build? just drop the set bonus entirely, and run the 2 ult kits + xiranite gloves + tidefall?
WeGood
blasphemous propaganda
when does the timer for boss trim starts?
It'll save u
as soon as u enter
oh so you need to buff before you enter 
Does endgame mode let you start with an ult was it in beta
I buffed inside the arena

hotwork members stay strong
dont let them decieve u
I see big numbers and happy match this plebeians
PROPOGANDA
my fellow brother indeed, stay strong against this fanatical cult
Don't run away from it
FIEND

is there a way to increase max crops planted on field?
I have like half of it used and I can't plant more
naur
yeah seems to be 20 max. what a wasted system. I was just looking at both fields and if they can be automated with sprinklers and ran into this.
where are your ginseng bro
whats a ginsing? i only know kuntz tube
maybe auto harvesting or fertiliser spreading is in the future
And you’d need to use up that free space
Remove plot system everything should work on planter and seeder loop
They can keep the plot system as long as there's a way to easily automate the process
Atm having to run to the plot from the nearest fast travel point to check, germinate, and water your fields is such a pain
I even find the Growth Chamber on the Dijiang barely tolerable, much less whatever kinda system the plot fields are
Growth chamber and basically everything in dijiang is based on old Arknight base
What is this channel? Meta talk or make sht things up channel?
severely nerfed tho
riic base is main source of money and xp, dijang isnt
Yeah they shift that burden to factory
Although dijiang probably still got a potential as the main source of xp
I notice a recommended weapons appear to fall into 3 categories, one is for stats, and the next two one is usually just buffs arts damage, and the next usually aligns with the operators casting skills . . . usually . . .
which would be better usually?
Dijiang doesn't feel like big help rn but over time it'll help build a reserve of resources you are bound to need eventually
Depends on a whole lot of everything there is general bis weapons for characters but it also sometimes changes depending on comp take a look at the pinned sheet in build channel
You usually use whatever gives your main carry best damage
But then some comps like premium physical you kinda want dmg on everyone
Plus those owl probably mean more level on dijiang
Aint no way i only need 2 days for those owl and everything is maxed
Pog lif chen da pan
Yeah probably
I have like 100+ blue and purple aerospace just rotting away
they'll probably give us a dump to put the extra mats in. depot delivery sends u there anyways, so by the end of the patch if ur doin those daily, u'll have a ton
Im hoping they'll let you craft higher tier by combining lower
No need for that, just give me more stable xp and money source
New char will eat those lower eventually
there's kinda too many of them and they respawn a lil too quickly.
Most useless items since day 3
even if there's a use, doing them all daily is a bit much.
When gold tier aerospace gets released let me combine like 20 purple for 1 gold
Ic
but it will be different if example it only need the gold tier one if released
I should collect em more diligently then
then I agree to conversion system
I have been slacking
is Flourite worth investing for Yvonne 💀
ive tried Snowshine Xaihi Ake on crowd encounters and relying almost entirely on Snowshine on cryo app is a struggle
You should always run xaihi on cryo comps
Why?
Because she has absurd cryo dmg amp that no other character comes anywhere close
As well as applying cryo herself
this is why
Ohh
and once u manage to pump xaihi's intellect to 1.2k, every cyro/nature operator in party shall get 24%+36% amp which is 60% amp
Is it even possible to get 1.2
P5 deto and 033 frontiers only gives 850ish i think
im 1/2 way there
Which still results in absurd amp numbers
Tho im not too confident on it when i calculated it ended up getting hardwalled at 830
With deto unit atleast
Cause frontiers doesn't have int main stat and xaihi isn't int main stat to start with
Low base int to work with
And deto is also main attribute flat although it does have secondary percentage
i might swap her weapon into this once yvonne banner is out
Deto is probs still just better even if it's not best for int maxxing
really?
How are you gonna consume corrosion on xaihi
why is this blocked
wut
you only need like 500
whats the size of the current smallest cryston component setup
while essence upgrading, has someone hit the very low chance
Why wouldn't you go for higher
ult has cap
i got a pretty condensed setup so im curious
why 500?
I got blocked for a similar topic (aka trying to explain how essence works)
who told u that?
The cap is only for the int portion not total which means int hardwall is extremely high
To the point where I don't think its physically possible to reach
#aic-factory can help u better
so anyway this weapon gives int and 2nd attri at max
i tried
i fuckin hate en wording
Yeah I checked jp and kor wording
Im pretty certain its only for int increase portion
I do wonder why they capped the int if you can't even come close to the cap
Future proofing ig
How many sprinklers does one need
this gear skill will activate for xaihi right?
Does her skill recover SP?
no
sad, so its useless
no
so frontier is for ake?
How much is a whole bar of SP? Does anyone have a fixed number for that?
I feel like it was designed with her in mind
agi intellect and secondary attribute sub% abd she has this passive
but low ult gain% is sadge
think it's 100 per bar?
That made it easier, thanks bro
100 per bar, regens one every 15 seconds
can pog proc xiranite or it is better to go. 2x hotwork kit + 2x ult gain pieces?
Should she use buff set or ult gain set?
Is there a way to know how much SP was recovered, for example from Pog or Akekuri?
Talent description in game usually states it
If there are other factors effecting it it will be from potential or talent unlocks
I wasnt aware at time of destroying my gold gear facotry line
That artificing eats so much
So i kinda probably need minimum production line
Wdym?
anyone know unbral cn name 💀
I can look
i cant tell yet ult gain kinda feel comfy to use
maybe if the non cost ult gain is maxed?
what is the maxed value of it
it starts from 25% ult gain
We cant have a “number” ingame sadly but we could at least extrapolate to see via pixel countign
I'm waiting for short numbers setting
So i can read dmg numbers without fighting against dyslexia as much
Is the 180 flat atk better than the 27% atk consumable?
yes
Is it cause of the crit?
Am I missing something
[(base atk * 1+% bonuses) + flat bonuses] * 1+ability value bonuses
Oh flat gets increased by %atk modifiers (not the attribute ones)?
Ability value bonuses being?
wao
also nvm at max the 27% atk is like 200 atk better
so yeah
ginseng crit gambling go brrr
KUNST TUBE FOREVER!!
explode
It depends on the unit
The more base attack you already have the more attack % scales
The less base attack you already have the more flat atk scales
Since it's 180 is a bigger % of your tbatk
I dont know exactly when the cutoff point would be
The eco farm in valley 4
What set you all settled on for lifeng?
no one farms in valley
Xir is i think the current
Farm in valley till oroberyls
Shuo do you have 20x ginseng?
I got bottled water setup for valley 4
jinseng or whatever
I have like 200 right now
plots I mean
Oh yeah
Should do
Maybe I miscounted
Ill check when I get on today
But I believe it was 4 preexisting + 16 extra crafted
2 full rows and then 4? On the third
The other plants not worth it?
You are very limited might as well full send on 1 plant
the rye is worth it
i think
the one for fried rice
i mean in the ends it depends what u need
Y'all act plant that much?
Once you have a ginseng stockpile its prob ok to swap
What u plant on valley iv
Just curious
Oh
Depends if you need to use it every reset
200 atk vs effective 5.72 percent avg total dmg increase
Ginseng gamba every day of the week
we fucking love crit gambling
But if we do we should not run ginseng
Gamba on the 5 percent landing on every hit
And tale the atk

explode
Hi, may i ask, if i drew 5 times using the limited hh ticket, does it mean that after this banner, i will need 75+120 a total of 200 pulls if i lose 50/50 twice?
120 at the most
There are 2 different pity systems
Any 6* (50/50)
Every 80 (more like 70ish in practice)
Guaranteed rate up at 120 if you do not have the rate up
The first is saved between banners, the second is unique per banner
If i only pull 5 this banner but not going for laevatain, does next banner bring over the 5 for 120?
So if i dont pull this banner at all, next banner i will need to do 75 before i can start the 120 hard pity?
No they are simultaneous
You current have 5 pulls done on Laevateins banner
The pity to any 6* is 75
The pity to a Laevatein is 115
Next banner comes
The pity to a 6* is 75
The pity to a Gilberta is 120
You do 75 pulls and lose the 50/50
The pity to a 6* resets to 80
The pity to a Gilberta is now 45
If you stop pulling here then in banner 3:
Pity to a 6* is 80
Pity to a Yvonne resets to 120
Likewise if you win the 50/50 the 120 guarantee expires
Icic, thank you!
At worst the most required to pull on any single banner is 120
The average over many banners is hence about ~95 split between some banners where you get the rate up in ~70 and the others where you get them at 120
While it is a more punishing system for people who just throw pulls onto the current banner it's far better for those who save their pulls for the characters they want, when compared to other gacha in the same genre
Is markedly worse than some gacha in other genre though, like the original Arknights
Do you think that Gilberta will be BiS for Tianshi Zhuang?
I don't think anyone knows anything about zhuang yet other than that she's likely electro in some capacity
@drifting quest is Fortifying better than Kunst or Jakub 
We have absolutely no way to know but given how much current Electric team is propped up my Gilb assuming she does not either
A) overlap with Gilberta
B) be very reliant on Electric Infliction
C) probably some extra stuff I can't think of right now
then i'd expect gilb to be good
fortifying infusion?
no its dmg%
Is the brought over pity to 80 part of 120 hard pity? Or if i lose the 50 50 i need start from 1 again to 120?
the 120 pity is once per banner, only for that banner and expires if you ever get the rate up unit early
the 80 pity is shared between every banner, permanent
You can get a 6* pulls 1 to 119 every time as long as they're not the rate up unit and still guarantee the rate up unit at 120
If you pull the rate up unit at Pull #1 then you cannot get a free copy at pull 120
Since u think like that.
Would u think pulling gil a wise choice? Just so if future ele dps uses her then Im safe
I would just save
Unless you somehow have like 200 pulls saved unrealistic to pull for both gilb and 1.1 electro
F2p
My friend got Laev early and has this screen is that bugged then?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/184389198508326913/1465737336620056667/image.png?ex=6982c385&is=69817205&hm=1175bdf39c1d4e492020d46cda9b8aaf2176e12139a8d43b72fadc60a50b0965&
I'm a f2p and I haven't spend any single ori
I have 50k ori rn with 31 headhunt
Even then
Gilb is in a weird spot where she's a little homeless right now, with 2 real teams that aren't speedrunner illnesses.
There's Electric which is up in their how it will be post 1.1, 1.2 and hence we don't know if Gilb is good then
Then there's Yv*nne. I need not say more for anyone who has been in this channel regularly.
That said Gilberta's THE potential woman, she should only get better with time if we have units who like her niche
The worst that can happen from saving
Is just pulling for potential of a strong ele dps
Which is probs good
But
If you pull for gilb
This looks to be the 240 pull potential bonus, not the 120 pull character guarantee
She might just not be good with whatever future ele dps
wait no i misunderstood
Ok thanks
So it's a no?
So if you hit her early the 120 turns into a potential unlock 
Hmm it's tough ngl but I thought support would be always nice to pull
This is what mine looks like having gotten her early
Cause I'm running avy rn so idk if I should just take the gamble
are you sure they actually own laev
Another big factor is that ard you get for free is already an insane 6 star output supp
his friend getting it in the 30 tries one i think
I'd expect it to be bugged then
Thats why I am so confused
so it doesnt count intoo pity
And you have f2p available 5 star supps too
What you rly need is a 6 star ele dps that comes out in the future
Before 30 you still get the guarantee?
Yh but I thought gil gives 50-60% increase on dps for avy team? Well I mean I'm not gonna use avy for long but yh u get it
not before, check the number again
it says 86
Yeah i am confused af
it should have changed to the 240 pull token if they own laev
Should it not be saying 200+ till pot copy
yes
Let's say even if it's bad for future ele 6* dps
I could just use for avy kind of thing? Or nah u wouldnt recommend it like this
206 pulls to a token
no
theres 1 condition
Dps is the role most dependent on star rating
if you're suggesting theirs isnt bugged then mine is bugged instead
Indeed
I have 1 Laev, sub 120 pulls, my next is at the 240 mark
Homeboy got slimed
no
I mean
heres the thing
the free 10 pull u get after 30 pull in a chartered banner
doesnt count into pity
yes
so if u get the lae in that free 10 pull
the first ginseng recipe, 2nd is ginseng meat stew and I havent unlocked it yet.
Kunst is +25% All DMG, Jakub is +27% ATK, Fortifying is CRate +9% and All DMG +18%, Ginseng Stew is +11% and +180 ATK iirc
there u go
idk how useful CR is
the cr is useless
for Laevatain
sure it can help but its critfishing
all I see is less dmg and atk in total
the 180 attack is the value
@frozen tide is this not recommended/u wouldn't do this?
no one has done the math on food buffs at different attack so just go with whats cheapest
ginseng is cheap
Yeah I'd just save for a future 6 star ele dps
why not? its good no ?
its 10 pulls for free
Okay like 1% of players get a freebie here
Seems like a net positive to me
What if the ele dps also needs gil in the future though
Idk if they will ever rerun
And get a freebie on the guarantee
Char
its statistic, u cant make all player getting freebie on that free 10 pull
Cause you have to hit laev with the ticket
going to 120 if you get them in 30 is a bit of waste
by right we get 25 free pulls at next banner if we done 60 pulls for this banner
Do whatever you wanna do that'll leave the least regret
it brings down the avg cost of a limited from ~84 pulls to ~77 pulls
over the long term
U think they will rerun?
I don't mean the free 10 pull
eh ?
Its specifically for people that want to go till 120 (maybe get potentials) and get the on banner op in the 30
then that player can save their oroberyl no ?
next banner pull we only need 55 pulls for 80 pity
since it doesn't count towards pity it's only fair it doesn't reset it either
But you can just save oro when you pull her randomly
i mean they still can keep pulling anyway
yes its unfair that some people can guarantee an extra copy for cheaper
cause they have the money for it and we should be grateful as it keeps the game dev fed and going
its just as unfair that some people can get 3 laev in a single 10 pull
the thing is, winning 50/50 reset ur counter
Or does it not interact with the normal pity too?
it's just a nice bonus all around. guaranteed p1 for the lucky if they so desire, lower overall cost of limiteds for everyone else
welcome to rng and gacha
yeah
Oh now I get it
it has no pity
I don't know
25 free pulls
it's just 10 phantom pulls
so player that won 5050 early might have p0 on 120 pull, while the one winning that 10 free pull will have p1 on 120 (worst case)
that exist just to increase your odds long term
Sad
PHantom pulls
considering we haven't been able to use one yet considering we're still on the first banner since release, how do you know this?
this is different things
its the headhunting dosier
we are talking about the 10 pulls on 30
for the next banner
they're talking about the 30 pull rebate not the 60
3 more days to next banner, r u all excited?
and it does indeed counted to that next banner pity
the 60 pull rebate does count to pity

complete waste of energy but my OCD made me do it, finally got all 4 teammates with 3/3 essences
eh ?
i dont find any text about that one
im doing the same but its not a waste because you need 4 million fodder essences anyways
either for now or for future weapons
I need that one
imagine next patch they release a better weapon and we have to throw away the essence
read the dossier text in inventory, says it converts to chartered pulls for the banner
I mean thats probably going to happen
yeah but it doesnt have text stated it doesnt get counted into pity
the 4* and 5*s in laevs team are gonna get filtered out
thats the thing I asked
ofc
it does get counted
Everything right now will get powercrept don't stress about it it happens in every single game
as long as they don't release new effects eventually essences will be trivialized
only artificing will be a major sink
i misread ur message soz @drifting quest
i think investing on support character is the best, they cant get power creep
thats why there's the gacha addicts saying you should do 60 pulls on every banner
20 free > do 40 > get 20 'free'
i do it all the time
my bad
unforch they absolutely can be
atk should scale marginally better than int
just pick either and use gels for the other
this
I prefer using gel forr one of the 5 to 6
You mean use gels for both... the success rate of this has gotta be like <1%
it's 2.6%
yeah if u have the gel
but if u dont
i guess i have no use for engraving tickets anymore, time to just stock up
you can farm for other weapons in the mean time
im emptying out shop for upgrade materials
I dont know what else would possibly be useful
if you have nothing left to farm for then sure
depends on the team and their weapons
you can prefarm gilberta & yvonne essences if you're pulling them
I dont see any of the 6* weapons being useful from here on out, that arent limited
there's a lot of very strong standard weapons
you will need fodder essences for future weapons too
so it doesn't matter if the weapon doesn't exist
if all you're doing is farming fodder no reason to waste tickets
but if you're farming anyway there are weapons worth chasing
true, but we get more tickets than sanity, so may as well target farm for current weapons while at it
no reason to farm randomly
I mean you also need to stock up like 3 million money
so you can afford to raise 1 character
paypal me 30 million tcreds
Im saving for Fangyi, I don't have any interest pulling until her
so ill just stock up

30 million credits or bills
so uhh, after reading above topic like 1 hour ago or smth, I saw that gilberta is kinda....
now idk if i should pull her or not
kinda what
not specific enough or smth
i mean she can be used on many teams
but not the most best one atm ?
Gilberta's issue in a lot of comps is summarised in 2 short words
'Nature Infliction'
Gilberta applies Nature Infliction
Many comps want their own Heat/Cryo/etc infliction and hence dislike Gilberta providing it. Her increased Suscept over Ardelia does not mean increased damage if you have to build an entire new rotation around it for most people
Ardelia does not apply Nature Infliction
wait
Maybe in the future they'll release a nature consuming dps
nature damage != nature infliction ?
Currently there is none
wait how does Ardelia activate her weapon if she cant apply nature
The teams Gilberta does go in are Yvonne, who can consume Nature Inflictions
And Electric, who kinda doesn't care as much but still has to redo their rotation to fit her
she force applies Corrosion, the reaction, not the infliction
the question i want to asked
ah
Her combo skill applies corrosion and skips the nature infliction part
Thats funny
And the battle skill eats said corrosion
She deadass has 0 nature infliction
Which is a great thing
so, ardelia is.... fake nature or smth
Makes her very versatile
Ardelia just the goat
literally
no need for the infliction
Ardelia crutches on her beast king summon smh
Waiting for arts infliction to become a real stat
Intensity*
it is real
physical stacks it

and its probably the best a cope subdps wulfgard can do as well
Last rite comp perlica stacks it
And ard fits in whatever intensity she can atop of eternal xiranite as well
Pog stacks intensity on phys
Corrosion lasts like 7 secs when her combo cd is 18 secs
But if you eat corrosion for arts amp it lasts 30 and gives eternal bonus
You can let corrosion sit for full duration after first amp proc
But most of her putput is still from the amp transition
whats theorycrafting for
theorycrafting
...
eat corrosion wdym?
ardelia enhanced skill consumes corrosion to apply all type susceptibility
Her battle skill consumes corrosion







