theorycrafting

[ocean hawk]

I HATE IT

[fringe dirge]

how much ult does max seal give?

[ocean hawk]

BRO

[summer flower]

kewkw

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[blazing lake]

gg

[magic stream]

Actually foul

[summer flower]

did you use food?

[ocean hawk]

kuntz tube

didnt have ginseng

no meat

broke

so only kuntz tube

[dire nymph]

can they add stew to stock distribution

[rare rover]

for it to cost 100k wuling? no thanks im too broke

[manic blade]

soon...

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/gremlins-laugh-laughing-reir-riendome-gif-11992779105193918189

[ocean hawk]

i hate to repeat this speedrun

coz i need to charge my ult on alluvium

no stew too

gah

[rare rover]

surely u can do it, i did it with kunts tube

[fringe dirge]

how much ult gain% does a fully artificed seal give?

[ocean hawk]

yeah, its surprising tho, coz im only use kuntz tube

[dry kindle]

33.4

[rare rover]

acting as if anyone is lucky enough to have it upgraded that far

[dry kindle]

Wiki.gg has em

[ocean hawk]

seal ?

[dry kindle]

Just need to search specific eq

[red topaz]

what set do i use on antal in laevatain-wulfgard-ardelia team?
im already using eternal xironite on ardelia, so what should i use on antal?

[twilit quail]

33.4 off the top of my head

yeah 33.4

[noble tapir]

Only reason I haven't gotten this one yet is because I'm fucking dogshit at dodging his attack where you stand in the yellow circle without standing in the yellow circle so I can get a final strike off to stun him D:

[rare rover]

eternal xirinite

[red topaz]

read again

[rare rover]

no

u use it again

[ocean hawk]

33.4 is big

[drifting quest]

seal - 33.4
other kits - 32
gloves - 26.7
body - 16

[twilit quail]

you just use another xiranite

for uptime

[drifting quest]

max artificed values

[ocean hawk]

coz the xiranite one only 32

[red topaz]

fr?

[twilit quail]

there is nothing else to use

[rare rover]

theres people using triple xirinite btw

[fringe dirge]

but xiranite is easier to upgrade

[red topaz]

thats crazy

[red topaz]

but they cant stack so whats the point

[dry kindle]

Just wait for atk% xiranite next patch

[twilit quail]

even if xiranite set is not what it used to be

uptime

[dry kindle]

🔥

[twilit quail]

uptime on the buff is better than no dmg from something else

[red topaz]

gotcha

[fringe dirge]

wait how hard is max xiranite suppoed to be? I already maxed the ult gain on my pan set

[ocean hawk]

but i dont think the xiranite set is useful

or did vulnr count as sucept ?

if so then it still working

[torn raft]

holy fk

[red topaz]

what piece is that

that requires 40 for pity

[torn raft]

hot work

[noble tapir]

just hit bro

[red topaz]

ive hit 24/24 once

[torn raft]

accessory

[rare rover]

[torn raft]

er kit

[red topaz]

crazy

[fringe dirge]

I got the third tier of xirinite battery on my first hit

[red topaz]

and good matches?

[torn raft]

dont think it has one as mainstat lol

[red topaz]

F

[ocean hawk]

kuntz tube or jacub legacy

[dry kindle]

Ginseng

[ocean hawk]

25 vs 27

[ocean hawk]

im broke

[dry kindle]

Stop being broke

[ocean hawk]

tell hg to reset my dog route per hour

[drifting quest]

ok so napkin math
p0 wulf builds
OBJ
Bonekrusha Heavy Armor + Aethertech Gloves + Bonekrusha Mask x2

Clannibal
Swordmancer/MI Security Armor + Lynx Gloves + Xiranite Power Core + Hot Work Power Bank

the Clannibal one doesn't require max artificing, just to hit 52.6%
OBJ needs to max artifice and max essence both ult gain pieces

i believe these to be the best you can do

if not p5

arts intensity moment

[valid zealot]

Wow marble is truly bs.

Sadge

[safe sand]

does p5 relax the ulti eff requirements by 1 combo skill

[ocean hawk]

anyway iana, u're right. Dapan if its not p5 makes the rotation harder

coz the combo doesnt give 2 vul

[drifting quest]

you actually build more ult effect lmao

[safe sand]

what a joke

[drifting quest]

p5 with 2 combos on the seals build gets to 1 rot

2 combo 3 team skills

below p5 you can't do it in 1 so you drop to 2rot and 2rot reduces the ultgain req in turn

actually wait

im giga griefing

wait no

im not

[dry kindle]

Mf

Make your mind up

[rare rover]

this guy is griefing throw tomatos at him

[drifting quest]

i thought for a second i wsa being dumb because you use the ult for combo reset

so you dont get the charge

but no the combo starts with ult

and then when your cd ends you do the second > finish ult > ult > combo to start the next rot

[valid zealot]

Is there pattern for marble to do its 2 air skills or just rng hell fuck you where your 200 ginseng stew.

[drifting quest]

ult every 20s

[safe sand]

just stagger node it every time idk man

[rare rover]

u dont need gingseng kuntz will do fine

[daring dove]

Do people actually have P5 Clannibal already?

[drifting quest]

not p5 clannibal

p5 wulf

[rare rover]

who in their right mind are p5ing clannibal?

[drifting quest]

if it was unrelated then uh idk whales

[tight haven]

i am

[rare rover]

well i said who in their right mind

[tight haven]

im at p4 rn

[tight haven]

speedrunning derangement syndrome

[daring dove]

Mines P3 but only because it won't leave me the f alone.

[valid zealot]

idk man I do so many stagger it's hard to time with with node.

So I either have to learn pattern or pray.

[rare rover]

what team are u whipping out

[valid zealot]

Endmin phys.

[safe sand]

wait alesh doesnt use frontiers set 🗿

[rare rover]

cant help u there bud

[daring dove]

I do lowkey want P5 Thermite Cutter though, that thing is silly broken.

[tight haven]

surely its on gilbs banner

[ocean hawk]

GAHHHH

[rare rover]

welcome to the club

your a cool kid now

no wait have u gotten marble yet

[ocean hawk]

not yet, not yet

oh

done

[ocean hawk]

this is for the club

coz i didnt fix my team yet

[dry kindle]

Smh join the real mans club

Having no fuckin xp

[ocean hawk]

pog

[dry kindle]

[ocean hawk]

is there a broke man club

[dry kindle]

I'm boutta buy bp just for the xp and creds

Not even the crowns

[rare rover]

wheres your ultimate weapon trim

[ocean hawk]

im not whel

well, i dont have p5 weapon anyway

[rare rover]

use 5* wep

[ocean hawk]

even on 5 star

[rare rover]

4*

[valid zealot]

Fodder all.

[ocean hawk]

im not gonna etch just for 4*

[rare rover]

fake fr

[ocean hawk]

when my team doesnt even have a good etch yet

[twilit quail]

where's your this one

[valid zealot]

No just get whatever essence you alr maxed.

[twilit quail]

🙂

[ocean hawk]

15 op p5 ?

holy

[rare rover]

if only xiahi and arclight WILL COME HOME MORE

i am missing TWO and THOSE TWO ARE THE TWO I NEED

[ocean hawk]

sadge

[rare rover]

its bad enough i cant lose a single 50/50 so im stuck with 18 operators 2 away from the golden reforge medal, but arclight and xiahi are blocking me from the p5 one too

[twilit quail]

we've forgotten the most important metric of all

do you have a building that has more than 10k repair

from others

[ocean hawk]

sadly none

[rare rover]

this?

[drifting quest]

step it up

[safe sand]

10k is crazy

[twilit quail]

if it gets to 10k

[rare rover]

i dont see a 10k one

[twilit quail]

the circle around it becomes rainbow

[rare rover]

only 500

[twilit quail]

instead of just shitty yellow

there is no achievement or anything for it

but there should be

[rare rover]

where in the misinfo are u getting this from

[twilit quail]

youve never seen it?

[ocean hawk]

hey iana, i want to ask something on dm

[twilit quail]

really

[rare rover]

im not falling for it

[ocean hawk]

its true tho

the limit for it to be rainbow is 1k i believe

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-i-don't-hear-you-gif-3811443321419152098

[valid zealot]

Is the fix number has something shady

I put a turret down for alluvium and instantly 70 repairs

Like what

[twilit quail]

if it's something related to the game I'd rather not go through dms

[daring dove]

Is it just me or does Gilbert have absolutely trash tier potentials? Her P5 is just a reduction to her combo tigger & 30% more damage for it.

[ocean hawk]

aight im gonna forward it here. Is sending ss with uid in it dangerous

[rare rover]

what if its 15% of car insurance?

[ocean hawk]

i was thinking to delete my sent image

[drifting quest]

snipping tool or screenshot instead of forward

[twilit quail]

uhhh

[ocean hawk]

coz I remember that in few games it can be used to hack the account ?

[drifting quest]

and just cross out uid

[rare rover]

people share their uids all the time theres dedicated chats for it

[twilit quail]

I mean I dont think

you would need to be worried about that

[ocean hawk]

but its better to not include the uid ?

[rare rover]

unless your acc is whel u neednt worry

[drifting quest]

any game that can be hacked by uid alone is doa

[twilit quail]

unless if you had good reason to believe that there were hypergryph staff

looking to ban you or something lmao

[valid zealot]

When in doubt just don't.

[twilit quail]

I mean if you want to do it

[valid zealot]

Does it matter for the topic you asking.

[twilit quail]

no one can or will stop you

[ocean hawk]

and u can use uid to do a chargeback no ?

like in one of hoyo drama

[valid zealot]

Why make it our problem.

[twilit quail]

but this is like the most inconsequential thing

[valid zealot]

Just crop it out.

[drifting quest]

just dont spend pulls you recieve from a random mysterious source

[ocean hawk]

aight

[valid zealot]

Ok flexer.

[rare rover]

[valid zealot]

[sly nymph]

wait the friendship +mainstats in the talent tree gave me 400 attack

wtf

[ocean hawk]

i usually ss the whole windows coz its the fastest

[safe sand]

they are kinda huge its true

[ocean hawk]

win shift s then click the window

[valid zealot]

Yk what else is huge.

[ocean hawk]

but well, I can use snipping mode in the future

[twilit quail]

get sharex man

[ocean hawk]

sharex ?

[rare rover]

deez nuts

[safe sand]

dmg% buffs on surtr en. batk

[ocean hawk]

oh

oss ss ?

[twilit quail]

screenshot app

it's good

builtin blurring/annotation etc

[ocean hawk]

can it use win shift s shortcut ?

[twilit quail]

Ive used it for many yrs

[ocean hawk]

replace the default one

[dry kindle]

Omw to get banned for fps uncap

[twilit quail]

you can reassign the shortcut to whatever

[ocean hawk]

aight aight

[rare rover]

litterally just cross it out then take another screenshot

[ocean hawk]

okay

black square censor

[dry kindle]

Its +60 main stat what did you expect

[safe sand]

free donuts

[dry kindle]

🗿

[rare rover]

u should also cross out your # too

cause anyone can search u up with user and number

[ocean hawk]

the unique number ?

ah

when i search my own name, it showed 1 other person

with same name

[rare rover]

then cross out the entire name lol

[ocean hawk]

its just a game, i mean, why its like im in a wanted list

[valid zealot]

xdd

[safe sand]

Be so fr what's the difference between that screenshot and just randomly stumbling into a whales pf via the random refresh friend list

[rare rover]

what if i do want u

[rare rover]

dunno

[ocean hawk]

[safe sand]

what set are you using btw

aethertech or swordmancer

[valid zealot]

intensity

[safe sand]

broken ass twink spotted run invalidated etc etc

[twilit quail]

LIFENG ABUSER

tremendous aura debt

[valid zealot]

I'm at 17/20 for 3rd intensity artificing

[dry kindle]

4x link

🔥

[valid zealot]

icant

This game hate me..

[safe sand]

hey at least there's a pity man

😭

[rare rover]

[valid zealot]

[valid zealot]

Madge

[rare rover]

dont worry guys im getting there too

[manic blade]

you'll all suffer as I have.

[ocean hawk]

time for harvest

[ocean hawk]

did you just stock that kit for artificing

and just consumed 40 of it

[manic blade]

yep

[ocean hawk]

2.4 mil of wuling stock bill

right there

if it were the 60k one

[rare rover]

is there a benefit to using that gear specifically?

[ocean hawk]

for some stat, yeah

for the good match

[old wren]

Do any characters' skills have any interesting scalings with skill levels? Like duration increases or higher SP recovery or decreased ult cost? Or is it just damage for the most part

[manic blade]

BC ITS GOOD MATCH AS YOU SEE TOTALLY INCREASES ODDS

[rare rover]

theres matches

[manic blade]

TOTALLY DIDNT WASTE 40 PIECES WITH GOOD MATCH LOL

[rare rover]

[ocean hawk]

well, even if things has 99% rate, u still can fail all 40 of it

since it separate chances

[rare rover]

i mean i failed 20+ straight essense upgrade attempts on a high chance

[ocean hawk]

maybe ur luck hiding in the operator pulls ?

who know

ah

[rare rover]

[ocean hawk]

well

[rare rover]

[ocean hawk]

AND U STILL HAVE 1 MORE ?

BRO

[safe sand]

universally all combo skill level10s decrease cooldown, i think by 1s?

[rare rover]

[whole crystal]

does combustion count as an artsinfliction?

[ocean hawk]

u cant keep getting away with this

[rare rover]

[safe sand]

some susceptibility modifiers also increase like lifeng's, i recall estella's increases at m1

[tight haven]

no duration increases to memory but some cskills reduce cd on m3

[mystic halo]

SP recovery yes

[safe sand]

also some SP regen effects become stronger, notably pog battleskill/ulti

[manic blade]

sounds about right

so close

[tight haven]

also most buff/debuff/sp recoverh values upgrade with skill levels

[tight haven]

there are exceptions though

[ocean hawk]

didnt u alrready have that weap trim emblem

[tight haven]

like akekuris cskill

[ocean hawk]

for that maxed weap stat

[tight haven]

its always 7.5 sp rec twice

[safe sand]

pog cskill as well

[rare rover]

[ocean hawk]

hell nah

[manic blade]

you need 25 combined lvl mine was 7 9 9 (think you need some potentials for it))

p4 min weap for trim?

[ocean hawk]

isnt it must p5 ?

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

p3 min

9 + 9 + 7

[ocean hawk]

oh

OH

[manic blade]

p3 oopsies

[ocean hawk]

i can try on my fortmaker then

[safe sand]

leveling the int on fortmaker gonna feel horrible tho

[ocean hawk]

but still

well what weap then

endmin swords ?

[safe sand]

do you NEED this trim

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

bro

[safe sand]

😭

[ocean hawk]

if it decorate my profile

why not

[valid zealot]

Gone.

[tight haven]

youre like

actually gonna get upload perms killed here LOL

[rare rover]

[valid zealot]

Love yourself.

[rare rover]

im messing with aresky lol

[valid zealot]

What he does

[ocean hawk]

he just showing me his very lucky pull

anyway I need explanation for this art intensity for breach

[drifting quest]

no upload perms kills the channel

[ocean hawk]

the deal dmg percentage and effect enhancement

is the one that affect team damage is the latter one or

[valid zealot]

No img perm theorycrafter is just theorycrafter that's even less convincing.

clueless

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-cat-жоский-флекс-кот-танцует-dancing-cat-gif-950636181093937985

[rare rover]

waiting for gil so i can p5

[valid zealot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.6ugp2bwnvloa

[ocean hawk]

ooo reading materials

thankss

[indigo steeple]

does anyone kno whow to figure out a good match for artificing

[manic blade]

one of my friends set up a defense turret on a dog spawn to annihlate them LOL

[rare rover]

someone call peta

[ocean hawk]

just use the higher stat as material

[valid zealot]

Mostly just the redeemer seal/tag.

[tired plinth]

Does anyone have a damage comparison of Jet vs Cohesive Traction on Avywenna?

[tight haven]

base stat youre artificing has to be higher on the fodder than on the host gear

[indigo steeple]

but it still has to be same type right

[tight haven]

if youre levelling gear with 41 int base then feeding gear with 43 int base will result in a good match

[tight haven]

yes

only base values matter

current value doesnt count for anything

[abstract vector]

Is laev weapon the best out of the 3 limited compared to bp weapon? Trying to work which one to pull for.
Goal is to get all 3 characters

[indigo steeple]

so is it impossible to get a good match on a main stat? only if your substat is the main stat on a diff gear?

or is there a variety of base stat numbers

[rare rover]

scathe is nutty

[tight haven]

laev is the current numerical ceiling of the game

nobody really outdamages her or outmatches her in versatility

[ocean hawk]

30 SECONDS BREACH ?

HOLY

[twilit quail]

wait

navigator is buffed

I think it's better than wedge

hang on

[tight haven]

gilberta is a very versatile support but doesnt have a team that suits her specifically

[valid zealot]

You can good match 1st stat on kit (only kit) with redeemer seal/tag.

[indigo steeple]

ah ok but not for the gloves and armor?

[valid zealot]

Nope.

Unless I miss something, which I likely won't.

[tight haven]

yvonne is just bad

[tired plinth]

She's not even out??

[tight haven]

she is

[manic blade]

#saveforrossi

[gritty olive]

she is

[rare rover]

she is

[tight haven]

you can get her rn

[rare rover]

u can get her by losing the 50 50

[gritty olive]

she is pullable, but her main banner is not pullable

[tight haven]

yep

and her sig isnt either

[dry mason]

Save for Zhuang Fangyi

[gritty olive]

7% chance to get her every 6*

[twilit quail]

ok it's not that big of a difference with the changes nvm

[rare rover]

PREACH

[tight haven]

but its a quantifiable increase in damage

[twilit quail]

p5 nav is 89%

ugh

[tired plinth]

Ahh, I stand corrected

[gritty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shu-yume-yumeship-pretty-cute-gif-16668099981589544505

[tight haven]

thats better than cbt2

lol

[twilit quail]

yeah but

[tight haven]

fucking wedge was outclassing it

[twilit quail]

I mean it's better than p0 wedge

LMAO

[tight haven]

yeah better than nothing ig

[gritty olive]

i think im potgated on trag over m3

[ocean hawk]

so

[dry mason]

Zhuang Fangyi = wife
Rossi = pet

[ocean hawk]

p0 wedge or p5 nav

[manic blade]

the nostlagia 🥺

I haven't played in years and years

[gritty olive]

fortunately i have a p6 trag and m3 borrow

[ocean hawk]

but from the bp chest we can only p3 the bp weapon no ?

[tight haven]

i never want to see those fucking dudes ever again

new opp

[drifting quest]

SO HOOOOOLD ON

[silent hound]

How much energy does Last Rite battle skill generate for other teammates?

[tight haven]

p2

well.

p3 if you commit both chests to it

[ocean hawk]

should we keep it

[drifting quest]

f tier map

[ocean hawk]

for now

[gritty olive]

2nd worst is5 f5 map

[tight haven]

this map is bullshit dude

[gritty olive]

1st worst is

[tight haven]

mercenary is my least fav is5 map overall

YEP

[drifting quest]

i was about to say which is worse

[tight haven]

actually insane how that map is allowed to exist in any is

lowkey

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

i dont know if id even say reg army is worse

[tight haven]

oh wait

its reg army

[gritty olive]

reg army is fine

[tight haven]

yeah mercenary is my 2nd least fav

[gritty olive]

freq dispute is 3 oppable

[drifting quest]

rogue merc is the one with mudrock

[gritty olive]

mantra tragodia and someone else

[tight haven]

freq dispute i always always avoid

[tight haven]

i just know it as the w map

[drifting quest]

thats regular army

[tight haven]

no no

[tight haven]

the OTHER w map

[gritty olive]

elusive mercenary

[tight haven]

thats reg army

OH

goddammit

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

all these map names

[gritty olive]

its the name of the emoji

[tight haven]

yeah elusive mercenary

[drifting quest]

elusive merc is a dog map

[tight haven]

its actually so fucked up how its an f3 map

[drifting quest]

today i will make w invisible

[tight haven]

like wdym i can just land this

[gritty olive]

f4 map

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[tight haven]

is it f4

[gritty olive]

it js f4

[tight haven]

okay a bit better

but still

[drifting quest]

yeah 4f

its a 4f map worse than like

every single 5f map

[gritty olive]

game doesnt want you to get epoch gaps so they hit you with triple baka(chaos elmerc freqdispute)

[drifting quest]

dlc maps really are like

[tight haven]

whenever i see more than one pathable epochal its fucking euphoric

[drifting quest]

nearly universally bad

[gritty olive]

made with lamp in mind

[tight haven]

yeah its bc of fucking lamp

and walter

[drifting quest]

dense jungle

kaz falls

[wintry hazel]

Is arclight act worse than ake

[gritty olive]

congestion em heavenly

[tight haven]

arclight is better in electro

[wintry hazel]

On electro just bcs Ake link is valuable

[tight haven]

oh

[wintry hazel]

Oh what i thought Ake link is just insane value

[tight haven]

i mean i can see the justification for it

[drifting quest]

i mean you get ake link like twice a fight

[tight haven]

yeah its like...

inconsistent

[wintry hazel]

Hmm okay

[tight haven]

ig for certain strats possibly but for general play arc seems much comfier

[wintry hazel]

Ight ty

[twilit quail]

ake is like a speedrun char

we have a sub 30 rhodan kill with her in electric

[tight haven]

yeah i remember that

LOL

[twilit quail]

there was one in cbt

[tight haven]

has any last rite gamer been able to beat it

[twilit quail]

but it was recreated literally today

[dry kindle]

Me when akekuri antal wulfgard

Ardelia isn't real

[tight haven]

ardelia is a fraud

losing to a 4* lizard 💔 just punch out atp

[bronze plume]

watch yo mouth

[dry kindle]

Omw to pull out the intensity ardelia build

[twilit quail]

【【终末地公测】29.94罗丹/电兔大王参上】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV17h6aBXEHD

[drifting quest]

akekuri antal wulfgard when you ask them how their sp management is

[wintry hazel]

Does gil act gives so much value for ele team tho

[twilit quail]

yes

lol

[rare rover]

120 rhodagan?

[tight haven]

the arts susc is HUGE

[rare rover]

almost every team has beaten 120 rho

[tight haven]

sub 30 rhodagn

[twilit quail]

dpsp goes up like 70% with her

[rare rover]

ah

i dunno

[wintry hazel]

Need sig?

Or just obj/stanza

[twilit quail]

dont need

but it's nice

stanza works

[wintry hazel]

Sig def better tho?

The Sig looks like

[tight haven]

oh thats

2.5m on lance return

[wintry hazel]

For her as dmg

[tight haven]

holy shit LOL

[twilit quail]

sig has a massive team arts dmg buff on it

with insane uptime

and ult charge

[bronze plume]

yeah avy lance dmg can go insane

[twilit quail]

it's very good

[wintry hazel]

Oh

[tight haven]

gilb moment

[wintry hazel]

Alr then

[bronze plume]

why do you exist

[wintry hazel]

Just clue exchange like ak ppl!!

[bronze plume]

why ake over arclight in that team is it simply for the link dmg

[wintry hazel]

Clear whole store everyday

[twilit quail]

ake for speedrun

but longer timeline arclight has advantages

[tight haven]

yea its cuz its a speedrun

link is an unconditional 1.2x mult

[bronze plume]

so yes

[tight haven]

yea ake isnt bringing anything else to the table besides that and the sp

[wintry hazel]

yo what

[twilit quail]

and thermite

[wintry hazel]

aint no way a spear hits 100k

[tight haven]

annnd thermite

[wintry hazel]

???

[twilit quail]

thermite is good who knew

[tight haven]

2.5m

[twilit quail]

🙂

[bronze plume]

2.4m total

[wintry hazel]

a single spear 100k

[bronze plume]

one hit 410k

[tight haven]

yeah total

[valid zealot]

Can't arclight use thermite too.

[wintry hazel]

he missed ult spear tho

[bronze plume]

yeah but she cant link

[tight haven]

yes she should

[valid zealot]

Fair.

[wintry hazel]

deto better on perlica?

[valid zealot]

Link is broken.

[wintry hazel]

i could get deto with crate rn

idk if i should tho

im using ww p2 rn

[valid zealot]

Just do it.

[tight haven]

ww is fine

[wintry hazel]

i thought deto is hard to active for electro

[tight haven]

i mean deto is the best thing there either way

unless youre playing dapan phys

then get exemplar

[bronze plume]

yippie now al; 8 characters i wanna use are at least trust 100%

[tight haven]

so many of these assholes want wuling gifts

im 3 ops off from 20 100% trust ops

[bronze plume]

not my girl ardelia

[tight haven]

ALL OF THEM WANT WULING GIFTS

[bronze plume]

she just wants cameras and for some reason scarfs

[tight haven]

she gets... uh...

cold..?

[bronze plume]

gang she works around volcanos

[wintry hazel]

If I'm playing future 6* ele dps
I should invest on deto for now?

[tight haven]

maybe she gets cold when she leaves the volcano

[bronze plume]

if she gets cold she has me to warm her up anyway

[tight haven]

i would hold off until we see fangyi

i have little doubt shes going to be 6* and hilariously busted

[twilit quail]

almost every member of electric is possibly being replaced

so like

it's rough

[wintry hazel]

So do nothing rn?

[tight haven]

save it

yea

[wintry hazel]

It is but like

I have most ops on lv 90 rn

[drifting quest]

There are more cold volcanoes than hot ones

[wintry hazel]

Avy 90 jet 90

[bronze plume]

if i call it my avy team and not electric team i cant replace avy ez

[bronze plume]

🤓

[wintry hazel]

Where I spend sanity though

[bronze plume]

thats you shuo

[tight haven]

if youre aching to push boss trims or just speedrun-hungry then go for it

[drifting quest]

Thanks I studied hard

[tight haven]

essences?

[drifting quest]

Unironically I had a mini section on volcanoes at university

[twilit quail]

I think it's most likely that

perlica

and arclight

[bronze plume]

welp now im poor

[twilit quail]

become unemployed

[tight haven]

arclight is getting taken out back

for sure

[drifting quest]

Arc over avy?

[dry kindle]

L

[drifting quest]

Or 4th slot

[twilit quail]

yeah so the thing is

[wintry hazel]

I alr beat trim marble

[twilit quail]

avy doesnt really need SP

doesnt need allies to apply stack

[tight haven]

then yeah idk save it

just start spending san on tc

[twilit quail]

and doesnt need to be onfield most of the time, either

[tight haven]

you need a LOT of tc to raise new ops from scratch

[drifting quest]

Are we assuming the future units wont be carries that want sp though

[wintry hazel]

Essences etch deto/ww? Or save bunch for future etch

[dry kindle]

Kill me

[twilit quail]

she could very easily take a backseat

[dry kindle]

I'm still in xp hell but anyway

[twilit quail]

to secondary dps

[tight haven]

latter

[twilit quail]

is what I am saying

[wintry hazel]

Tc?

[dry kindle]

Tcreds

[twilit quail]

I think it's more likely that arclight and perlica are replaced

[tight haven]

yh

[wintry hazel]

Can't u just buy tcred from stock bills

[twilit quail]

if zhuang can just apply any stack herself then that doesnt actually conflict with avy

[wintry hazel]

300k a day tho

[dry kindle]

Limited

[wintry hazel]

With limited stock

[dry mason]

Can store 120 san in pocket if you dont know what to farm

[wintry hazel]

Yea

[dry mason]

[dry kindle]

Fym a day

[twilit quail]

arclight I think is self explanatory

[dry kindle]

Its perma

[wintry hazel]

For me atleast I only got 300k a day

After the stock is gone

Then yh no tc income

[dry kindle]

[wintry hazel]

Stock only 18 left

Of 20k cred

[twilit quail]

anyway electric is carried by gilb

[wintry hazel]

That cost 400k bills

[wintry hazel]

Only tc?

[drifting quest]

Am I gonna have to commit for gilb

Surely not

[twilit quail]

[bronze plume]

just get her on laevs banner 4head

[drifting quest]

I cant afford this all

[bronze plume]

its that simply

[drifting quest]

[dry mason]

Gib must have ?

[drifting quest]

Rossi for fire
Gilb fangyi, maybe mifu for elec

A

[dry mason]

I thought Gib is flexible

[bronze plume]

she is in be-

[wintry hazel]

Should I invest a lil on gil after getting her for future electro team

Sounds like a char that will get replaced too

😔

[terse furnace]

The only characters that are a must have are your waifus

[drifting quest]

If there were actual paid packs I might have

[terse furnace]

Also, we litearlly do not know what the meta is looking like in the future. I personally like pulling for supportive characters cuz they generally have the most longevity

[wintry hazel]

Same

[drifting quest]

Im not paying $100 for 60 pulls and then getting less pulls even after

[bronze plume]

i just pull for who i like

[tight haven]

the cost to lv90 an op from scratch is like 700k tc iirc

yes

only tc

you will need so much

[bronze plume]

idgaf if x character comes out and is better

gang if i dont like em i aint pulling

now give me rossi

[wintry hazel]

Alr cos idk if I should do some resources too like exp

[tight haven]

exp can be made in dijiang

rate of like 2.5/day for gold lv60+

its bad but not too bad

[wintry hazel]

Cause I have like a month

[terse furnace]

This is the way to play gacha games

[bronze plume]

im sorry if one of the characters comes out and they be a main dps for electric

they replace avy

im sorry avy hotter you gotta go gang next banner chop chop

[tight haven]

i think the most cringe thing hg can do gameplay-wise is introduce moc/abyss

[lost heart]

i thought we were supposed to succumb to fomo while chasing meta and then getting burnt out and quit

[tight haven]

complete with stupid ass element shilling

as long as they avoid that its fine

[terse furnace]

I mean, Umbral is kinda like that. It's reportedly not too hard, tho

[wintry hazel]

Y think I should lv gil tho

Just for like

[tight haven]

nah umbral doesnt shill anything

[bronze plume]

umbral aint like that at least not in cbt2

[dry kindle]

Don't forget weapon

[tight haven]

the fights are just creative

[tight haven]

yep not even counting skills, talents, weapons

[terse furnace]

That's a good thing lol. I hope they keep it like that

Lots of people are swiping for the quality of characters and gameplay alone (so far at least)

[tight haven]

counting all of that you're probably looking at over 1.5m tc to raise a single op

[bronze plume]

the only thing umbral shilled was having a healer for 1/3 stages and even then some people completed it on the harder mode without a healer

[wintry hazel]

Bcs she's flexible thin

[bronze plume]

granted we dont know if they changed umbral from cbt2 to release

[tight haven]

i hope they made the poison mist stage harder

that shit was way too easy

[wintry hazel]

Or nah just keep her in bench for now

[tight haven]

we're at least getting 3 new stages too

[wintry hazel]

And see what the ele dps will be

[bronze plume]

we also know etchspace has 3 new areas

[tight haven]

id level her to get her ult up

her ult matters so much

[tight haven]

we do?

in 1.1?

[bronze plume]

yeah in cbt2

[wintry hazel]

So lv 60-80 of her char and ult up ?

[bronze plume]

etchspace had has areas 4 5 and 6

[tight haven]

uhhh

[bronze plume]

same with release

[wintry hazel]

Wb weapon? Do I just put her Sig on lv 20

[bronze plume]

you just gotta know where they are

[tight haven]

okay wait

where

i just remember the area with the gun aggelos was the last stage

[bronze plume]

area 4 is right at the ending area you unlock from area 3

[tight haven]

OH THATS WHAT YOU MEAN

[bronze plume]

i think area 5 is literally just at the above area of the starting point

[tight haven]

yeah its just not open yet

i getchu

[bronze plume]

well yeah

[tight haven]

area 6 is probably past the blighted bridge

[wintry hazel]

It's enough?

[tight haven]

oh as long as you can get pursuit +3 on it

[valid zealot]

What wb

world beyond?

[tight haven]

what about

[valid zealot]

[wintry hazel]

Lv 20 is fine though?

I can get +3 pursuit on it

Like rn

[tight haven]

yep

[valid zealot]

Lv1 is fine.

[wintry hazel]

I have 970 gel

[terse furnace]

Personally, I'm happier if Umbral is easier. It prevents the idea of fomo and allows more casual players to complete it

[tight haven]

i would honestly suggest raising--wait we're talking about gilberta right

[terse furnace]

Last thing you want to do is push players away

[wintry hazel]

Bet bet

[bronze plume]

i mean we defo need some kinda hard gamemode

[valid zealot]

I am the sweaty ass.

[wintry hazel]

Yeah but we not sure what the future ele dps look like so

[terse furnace]

Trimming bosses is proably their idea of "hard game mode" atm

[tight haven]

right right

[valid zealot]

How to show I'm superior if the endgame modes are easy.

[tight haven]

if youre raising gilb i heavily suggest getting her sig

[terse furnace]

I'm sure we'll get a CC eventually, though

[valid zealot]

[dry kindle]

Just a few tcreds

[wintry hazel]

Yuh I will

[dry kindle]

M6 alone adds like 240k

[bronze plume]

umbral defo had people calling it hard and bs

and complain about a 10 minute timer

[tight haven]

lmao.

[valid zealot]

10 min?

[tight haven]

wait bskill unlevelled

[valid zealot]

Combat sequence for babies?

[bronze plume]

i have 10 mins to get all the rewards gang if you cant complete the stage in 10 mins wtf is yo team comp

[terse furnace]

423k from lvl 1 to 90 is surprisingly cheap

the exp though 💀

[tight haven]

the non-beta players complaining abt the 10 min timer were so funny

[bronze plume]

yeah

[tight haven]

like omg its fine catcher can fucking beat it lol

[dry kindle]

Bskill isnt real

[bronze plume]

i just hope umbral doesnt add timed rewards

[tight haven]

there were just the trims for beating agony

[terse furnace]

Genuinely? It's probably good that Catcher can beat the game mode

[tight haven]

tbh the rewards from umbral in cbt2 SUCKED

[bronze plume]

like imagine if its complete within 3 mins for the crown 6mins for the pulls 10mins for the exp mats and shii

oh hell nah

[tight haven]

like

literally 3 crowns

LOL

[bronze plume]

everything reward wise in cbt2 sucked

[tight haven]

and then maybe 80 sanity worth of mats

yep

hope they buffed rewards hard

[terse furnace]

How much originium?

[tight haven]

0

[bronze plume]

only good reward in cbt2 was my free ardelia

[tight haven]

events in cbt2 were godawful

[terse furnace]

nvm I think this game mode isn't worth playing 💀

[bronze plume]

umbral gave 0 pulls in cbt2

[tight haven]

everyone was fucking complaining

[twilit quail]

cbt2 gave us nothing

no pulls

cant raise anything

[tight haven]

i really hope they changed the reward scheme

YEAH

[bronze plume]

who tf is us gang wheres yo role

[twilit quail]

i play on cn

[tight haven]

ianas the reason we didnt get to raise anything

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[tight haven]

cn players and your fancy cash shop

[bronze plume]

JUMP EM

[rare rover]

what the heck is happening

[twilit quail]

the reason I know like half the things I do

and why I can explain every single thing I put in my document

is that I spent money

in the test

[dry kindle]

Smh rebate abuser

[tight haven]

the rebate scheme was funny af

[terse furnace]

That's wild, you spent money on a version of the game you knew you'd progress on?

[tight haven]

like up to $200 you get a 200% rebate or something

[dry kindle]

Me when rebate in closed access test

[tight haven]

then up to $500 its 150%

[dry kindle]

[rare rover]

[dry kindle]

Yuan

[tight haven]

then 120% thereafter

[tight haven]

yeah equivalent

[rare rover]

imma pretend i have 100% idea of what their talking about

[dry kindle]

Nah it was 200 yuan iirc

[tight haven]

wait

literally?

wtf

[bronze plume]

let it be known this is from the release special program

it has pulls now but not crowns

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

wait

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

wheres the protohedrons

oh my god bruh

[bronze plume]

yeah this sounds not good

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

i meeeeaaaaaaan

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

ugh i dont like time challenges yeah

its cringe

[rare rover]

I AM NOT FIGHTING A 5 PHASE TIMED BOSS

[tight haven]

oh no

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

theres no bosses

its like

mobs

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

but theyre evil ass mobs

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

like you fight 3 lv90 wyrms

that are aggro as shit

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

like they constantly spit poison pools

[rare rover]

[tight haven]

your supports have a 50% chance of spontaneously dying

[twilit quail]

it's just this guy except his animations are 2x as fast

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

this is also perma

[tight haven]

yeah crossbow guy got BUFFED

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

seems like it has the crowns now

[rare rover]

[frozen tide]

hey iana does your last rite loadout assume p4 or p5

[bronze plume]

it better be a good amount

wheres the time sheet when is delver up

[twilit quail]

it doesnt matter

[frozen tide]

because at p0 i dont think 4 battle skills and 2 combo skills gets you ult

[twilit quail]

if LR doesnt kill in a single rotation

you brick

[bronze plume]

also wtf is it showing the low tier battle skill upgrades

[frozen tide]

i was wondering if ult recharge armor would be better

[twilit quail]

that's just it

there is no point in using the unit otherwise

if yuo cant oneshot the enemy

[tight haven]

its up on the 17th iirc

[bronze plume]

bruh

[tight haven]

same day as umbral monument 2(?)

might be a few days apart

[twilit quail]

If someone else says that the charge chestpiece or wahtever

makes it nicer

you know what

beats me

I only know how to speedrun on this char

[rare rover]

when will more wuling be unlocked

[tight haven]

cba to lab lr

i feel you though she feels like ass for anything that isnt a speedrun

[tight haven]

possibly 1.1

[rare rover]

when

[tight haven]

mid march

[frozen tide]

😭

[tight haven]

at earliest

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-cat-green-alien-cat-meme-cat-rage-meme-angry-alien-cat-gif-16978295465898295971

[twilit quail]

I know one daily rotation without ult

I know speedrun timeline

that is all I know on the character and all I will ever need to

the thought of going for a second cycle at all

means that you are not a real LR player in spirit

[dry kindle]

Fund my 5+6

But yeah regen chest is just for 3+3 stack

You don't need if 4+3

[frozen tide]

what do these numbers mean kobe bryant

[languid onyx]

maxed laev has like 703 int right?

[rare rover]

id assume its higher but idk

[mystic halo]

700 exactly

[dry kindle]

696

[twilit quail]

696 if youre missing 1 artifice

[dry kindle]

Tf

[twilit quail]

yea

mine is p5 so has +20

missing 1 int artifice for 4

and has 716

[languid onyx]

oh wait 705

[twilit quail]

so 700 should be the number

[languid onyx]

missing 3 artifices

[dry kindle]

[swift tundra]

I think it's more efficient to leave my Laevatain at 5k atk for now and focus on 2nd team lmao. Every failed upgrade goes into the void and the cost is exponential.

[languid onyx]

ah yours is tide chest, the one i saw was lynx slab

[dry kindle]

Oh

Explode yourself

[twilit quail]

slab 💀

[bronze plume]

slab

pain

[twilit quail]

oh right seal has 2 more int

[languid onyx]

is the double redeemer seal set build good?

[icy ginkgo]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_9TNOfWEAAvFAK.gif

[frozen plank]

So when it comes to gear refining (idk it's actual name), we have 12 attempts and we can upgrade up to 9 times?

[icy ginkgo]

enough to max all stats

[frozen plank]

How, if there's 12 attempts

[rare rover]

im sorry rhodes island what?

[dry kindle]

Wut

[icy ginkgo]

12 is the pity

[frozen plank]

Ohh

It's a pity

[icy ginkgo]

guarantee upgrade if you reach that

[frozen plank]

Thank God

I thought that was the RNG part of this game lol

[icy ginkgo]

(its still pretty high)

[frozen plank]

Infinite gear crafts to cap gear effects

How many times can we upgrade each stat? 3?

[icy ginkgo]

ye

[frozen plank]

Ty ty