theorycrafting

[ocean hawk]

u can do that with p5 5 star weap no ?

but its kinda useless to etch essence for 5 star weap

[tight haven]

yes

its just an essence check

[safe sand]

endfield clearly bad game because you can't make fucked up omniline highway that runs through everything

[ocean hawk]

i mean if the 5 star weap has same 3/3 stat as the 6 star one, then its no problem

[void zinc]

They need a configurable splitter so bad

[ocean hawk]

just like in factorio

[rare rover]

hamu was just bragging to me about getting the 3/3 essense multiple times while i was struggling so im flexing the badge he wants so bad XD

[ocean hawk]

using fastest belt for main bus

[safe sand]

reject anime gacha return to minecraft modpacks

[amber vapor]

Create 🤮

[rare rover]

aint no way this guy is dissing the create mod

[sterile patrol]

shapez2

[amber vapor]

Real ones played Tekkit back in the day

[mystic halo]

this chat is usually more relaxed but please dont go on about base here too long

[ocean hawk]

they never gonna finish that aeronautics mods

[ocean hawk]

wdym ?

[safe sand]

i mean this is theorycrafting

[mystic halo]

it's channel for combat gameplay

[ocean hawk]

ah

[safe sand]

channel

ye

[ocean hawk]

time to mash that wuling transfer job

[amber vapor]

Wait have any whales posted their numbers on max essence at max potentials for wep and characters yet?

[rare rover]

theory crafting but half of us use it to just chat since general is time locked and too flooded

[ocean hawk]

we cant have fix for that

[hollow raptor]

i saw one have ~6k atk but they were using tidesurge set for whatever reason

[tight haven]

its nothing too impressive

[ocean hawk]

since making a different general chat with tier will divide the player

[rare rover]

theory crafters are the minority here XD the majority is regulars who come to chat and people who use this to ask for help instead of the help and aic factory chat

[mystic halo]

do not abuse the leniency you are allowed currently

[tight haven]

yeah its just nutty high atk

im still missing whatsit

artifices

[mystic halo]

or things might change

[drifting quest]

dont get the channel nuked or the actual theorycrafters all leave

[torn raft]

This channel actually helps answer my questions lol

[rare rover]

[drifting quest]

i know i would

[tight haven]

after a certain point with laev you just nuke everything without even trying

shes so thoroughly unchallenged by anything in the game rn

[twilit quail]

even has builtin survival

[tight haven]

yep

[twilit quail]

though we will look back in like 1 year and say

she came out too early

and didnt get damage talent

[tight haven]

lol

[twilit quail]

for that reason

[tight haven]

im sure fangyi will outdo her somehow

[hollow raptor]

let me pilot her on the triangle boss and ill show her how she's heavily challenged

[twilit quail]

she will just hit the entire map with lightning

[modern wagon]

Whats the best food buffs for grtting the 120s boss kill

[twilit quail]

so all of the mob drops

just end up in the mailbox

🔥

[tight haven]

ngl she just

fucks triagg

[twilit quail]

NO MORE MEAT ROUTES

[tight haven]

2nd phase gets skipped by a single ult

[hollow raptor]

not if im the one piloting

[torn raft]

The 3rd boss stunlocks though if u get hit lmao

[blazing lake]

Literally the gayest trim to get

[ocean hawk]

do you have efficient fillet farm routes ?

[drifting quest]

leizi2 talent on fangyi thanks

[blazing lake]

I don't have DUPES

[rare rover]

says bro wanting it

[drifting quest]

random lightning bolts

[twilit quail]

yeah I do hang on

[drifting quest]

premium meat runs

[ocean hawk]

aight

[blazing lake]

I don't SUMMON

[rare rover]

USE ANOTHER WEAPON OTHER THAN SCATHE THEN

[blazing lake]

Wtf????

[ocean hawk]

I definitely needs that

[blazing lake]

There is no OTHER ONES

I don't have that many 5* weapon

[twilit quail]

set up ziplines like so

and so

[torn raft]

[twilit quail]

and kill the dogs that dont have hp bars & die in 1 hit

[ocean hawk]

HOLY ROUTES

[twilit quail]

with a ranged character

ignore the actual enemies

[ocean hawk]

why ranged

[outer ermine]

theres 3 dogs at the top right

[twilit quail]

cause they run away from you

[ocean hawk]

so it didnt need to run ?

[twilit quail]

and it's annoying to chase them

[ocean hawk]

ah

[bronze wedge]

do turrets target those dogs?

[outer ermine]

yes

[tight haven]

not consistently

[ocean hawk]

use the electric one

[tight haven]

ive seen them just invuln through a turret shot for some reason

[ocean hawk]

its consistent

[twilit quail]

you can average 30-40 meat in 5 mins with these routes

[tight haven]

ill try that ig

[twilit quail]

each day

[outer ermine]

just slap surge he if too spread out

[twilit quail]

this is the best Ive found

[ocean hawk]

oh yeah

more question

[twilit quail]

killing alluvium mob is not good

takes too long

[ocean hawk]

how long is the timer

[hollow raptor]

a question. i see a lot of people start with ults for 3/4 chars for trim runs. is there a convenient way to pre-farm ult?

[heavy fossil]

is it a daily reset?

[ocean hawk]

for the dog spawn

[twilit quail]

it is daily

as far as I know

also anything you leave on the ground

[ocean hawk]

so if I already hit those routes

[bronze wedge]

whats the meat used for?

[twilit quail]

will disappear on daily reset

[tight haven]

same with alluvium drops if youre desperate

[ocean hawk]

i can do alluvium

aight

[tight haven]

ult energy food and atk+crit food

[twilit quail]

it's used in everything that is good rn

[outer ermine]

i run thru the route like 3 times everyday, not sure what the cd is

[tight haven]

you need a lot of it if youre speedrunning stuff

[ocean hawk]

thanks again iana

[summer flower]

are those gather spots are refreshing? or am i just missing that much?

[tight haven]

which ones

[summer flower]

white bright smoll thingy

[twilit quail]

worm meat you should do in the hub essence node

just set world level to 1

doesnt affect mob drop rate

[tight haven]

the gather spots dont reset

ever

[daring dove]

I'm guessing that ones the easiet of the 3 to get?

[ocean hawk]

eh ? u can just do that ?

[tight haven]

yep

[ocean hawk]

in other games u can go down 1 at a time

[twilit quail]

yeah just set to 1

[ocean hawk]

ah

[twilit quail]

so turrets can oneshot the essence node mobs

[ocean hawk]

its selection

I see

[daring dove]

Cool I'll work on the others on the weekend.

[twilit quail]

to farm meat

[normal tangle]

cro what is that medal icon

[heavy fossil]

you can only decrease level once every 24 hours iirc

[twilit quail]

yeah

[normal tangle]

ts look like amethyst part production

[twilit quail]

but it's not like it's anything important rn

[ocean hawk]

which meat is that

[twilit quail]

to do with world level

[ocean hawk]

and for which foods

[twilit quail]

cause we're all done with progression I assume

hub is worm meat

[torn raft]

It affects the rare nodes

[twilit quail]

for stew meeting

[torn raft]

But probably will have too much at this rate

[daring dove]

Have to beat a level 90 boss in under 2 mins to get it, there's 2 more like it.

[twilit quail]

routes earlier are for meat from dog

[shut cobalt]

question, after i finish laev, is it worth it trying to go for this? (altho i'd have to use ember in lifeng's place until i get him)

[twilit quail]

for ginseng stew

ok so

physical is expensive as fuck

[normal tangle]

no i know how you get it but what is the design supposed to be

[twilit quail]

and very demanding in every single aspect, basically

[ocean hawk]

theres another route for that worm meat ?

[twilit quail]

worm meat only drops frmo enemies with actual hp bars

[ocean hawk]

or spot

a

[twilit quail]

so you are best off farming them from the essenec node in hub

[shut cobalt]

so it isnt worth it going for physical?

[ocean hawk]

alluvium

got it

[tight haven]

i just laev through the wetlands area in wuling city with a lot of slugs

[twilit quail]

alluvium mob will only give you drops up to 9 times a day

so run it 9 times and no more

[tight haven]

oh thats why

[ocean hawk]

I usually did that but the drop rate is meh

[tight haven]

yeah it doesnt get much better

[twilit quail]

especially when you have no lifeng, no

cause ember

[ocean hawk]

how u get this kind of info

[twilit quail]

ember

[twilit quail]

my henchmen do the work for me

[ocean hawk]

so alluvium limit is 9 times

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[ocean hawk]

natural mob is once a day

got it

[twilit quail]

and also farm the required plants in wuling of course

[drifting quest]

rich people things

smh

[ocean hawk]

yeah, I have the ginseng farm fully automated

[twilit quail]

also another trick

[ocean hawk]

just need to harvest and germinate once a time

yes ?

[twilit quail]

once the mobs you want the drops from are dead

in the alluvium

immediately cancel the rest with P

to restart faster

[ocean hawk]

so no need to go through the end ?

[twilit quail]

also great for the wuling one

yep

since the wuling one last 2 enemies have 0 drops

so if you are farming mob drop just cancel it always

[ocean hawk]

aight noted noted

[twilit quail]

though the limit for drops per day still applies

[drifting quest]

is it 9 total or 9 per alluvium

[twilit quail]

the latter

but if you are going shopping at every single one 9 times every day

youre pretty ill

I have to say

[drifting quest]

i was gonna say

[ocean hawk]

uhhh

the exact question would be, what mob drop u're farming that makes u do all of that alluvium

[shut cobalt]

wait, one more thing
when u ult with laevatain, do u want to use combos or just keep on basic attacking/skilling? (im using charge set btw if it matters)

[drifting quest]

it depends

[bronze wedge]

does ult eff work with the ult gain pots?

[drifting quest]

as always

[echo crown]

How much of a team dps buff does ardelia provide?

[twilit quail]

the different essence node have different enemeis and thus different drops

[shut cobalt]

and what would make it so u want to use combo or not?

[twilit quail]

for example the hub has worm meat and the sandworm whisker

[thorn shore]

atp im ngl i just need some trash to feed into my essences

the first 2 stats r so expensive to max

[outer ermine]

wheres the hbraiders at i need the seeds can

[drifting quest]

enemy hp, team sp, other combos you may or may not need access to, whether you're doing 1 or 2 enhanced skill per ult, plus half a dozen other factors

[twilit quail]

the originium park one has grass seed, lipid, and jerky

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[hollow raptor]

the fact you've memorized this

[ocean hawk]

the power plateu has dog meat

coz I always did that one

[drifting quest]

first time meeting someone neurodivergent?

[twilit quail]

ore vein one has energised and hard angel rock, plus small amount of hollow

[thorn shore]

if that person isnt neurodivergent

im gonna die laughing

[next helm]

Is food important in this game?

[ocean hawk]

very imo

[rare rover]

for harder content yes

[twilit quail]

plateau one is mostly meat and jerky though there is a chance to get wheat from it as well

[rare rover]

also for general heals

[woeful plume]

unfortunately

[twilit quail]

heals you are best off farming for

[ocean hawk]

but the chance is so low

[twilit quail]

yeah which is why

you do the other routes

for meat

dont farm it from alluvium

wuling one has both types of water

but they dont have good recipes

[ocean hawk]

i mean, its gonna be much faster after I have gilberta

for the gather skill

[twilit quail]

though they have these

so maybe you like them

and want to make them

up to you

[woeful plume]

those look disgusting

[twilit quail]

it's shaped after the uhh

things

[tight haven]

beans...

[balmy jay]

[hollow raptor]

i just read this and all my plans to farm meat just vanished

[tight haven]

its a huge boost but you can ignore it too

[twilit quail]

for the most part

if you are only using food to kill boss

and whatever

you dont need to bother with this

however if you want to be megachef

you need to farm this

and also go harvest your crops

[plush tundra]

has anyone the marble medal trimmed with avywenna using arklight? i've seen akekuri and antal but no arklight

[next helm]

crops

pog

[tight haven]

👍 get those crafting manual rewards

[twilit quail]

cause it is fun to make whimsical consumables for no reason

[next helm]

I was expecting them to be useless

[ocean hawk]

oh, is there a efficient layout

[next helm]

Is there a way to get more patches on the field?

[tight haven]

ginseng makes the most op food

[ocean hawk]

im using plant,sprinkler,plant

[twilit quail]

you can only put down 20 plots

[ocean hawk]

rn

[twilit quail]

so it doesnt matter

[ocean hawk]

yeah

[twilit quail]

how you lay it out

[next helm]

Ah kaykay

Farming good

I like

[ocean hawk]

so the max plot u can put inside a sprinkler is 2 then ?

[tight haven]

wuling no because youre hard capped at like 16 plots

[twilit quail]

yeah

[manic blade]

😋

[tight haven]

and in valley 4 youre forced to have a specific layout

[ocean hawk]

the one u using rn ?

[manic blade]

emergency rations stockpile

[twilit quail]

it is very unoptimal to make these

but I do it for fun

[ocean hawk]

is it worth it

ah nvm

already answered

its yazhen no ?

[twilit quail]

yes

[next helm]

So what do you farm?

[twilit quail]

this one is 30% + 2462 healing

[ocean hawk]

coz the rate for that plant is 30-40 ish for 20 plot

[twilit quail]

if you plant the base form of the plant

[ocean hawk]

per harvest

[twilit quail]

you are guaranteed 1 or 3 rare drop

per plot

[ocean hawk]

yeah

[twilit quail]

so I have like

I think 8 of the yazhen

[ocean hawk]

its averaging on 40 for me tho

[twilit quail]

5 ginseng

and the rest wheat

to prepare for future

[ocean hawk]

future ?

and why wheat

[twilit quail]

it has a good healing consumable

that goes up to 4 uses

and maybe it is better in some situation

so I have it up the back pocket just in case

but it is probably suboptimal

[next helm]

And in valley?

[twilit quail]

I do it for fun

in valley I dont bother lmao

who wants to manually water

[ocean hawk]

fried rice ?

[outer ermine]

atp i just gave everyone stew saves time farming ults

[sudden lichen]

turns out you can't farm these too easily

[ocean hawk]

well uh

[twilit quail]

yeah cause 4 uses and instant healing

but this is like

[sudden lichen]

the ballista will have to wait

[twilit quail]

really unnecessary optimisation

and you probably shouldnt do what I am doing

[next helm]

Does valley have nothing useful

[twilit quail]

valley cant plant wuling plants

and the wuling plant healing consumable is also better

[sudden lichen]

just afk while the others do the job

[outer ermine]

valley has the perplexed shit

[heavy fossil]

how strong is shatter team?

[ocean hawk]

ah

[twilit quail]

I prefer to not think about

ult charge meds

[ocean hawk]

u cant plant wuling on valey

[twilit quail]

[drifting quest]

3 MORE STEW MEETINGS

3 MORE PERPLEXING MEDICINE

[outer ermine]

[ocean hawk]

oh yeah regarding xinarite component

is 1 per min is good enough to keep the battery produced

since we only limited to 120 xinarite per min

[twilit quail]

you should do 3 parts/min

and 6 battery/min

[ocean hawk]

then I only have battery for 6 per min

well

i can import from valley

[twilit quail]

you should also be making drink

[drifting quest]

im 6/6/3 for battery/syringe/component

[twilit quail]

or syringe

[next helm]

blue batteries are fine no?

[twilit quail]

at 6/min

[ocean hawk]

im making that too

[twilit quail]

then it is fine

just switch between gear part

[ocean hawk]

using the ferriuum import

[twilit quail]

and 12 batteries/min

because you cant outproduce outpost without 12 batteries/min

[ocean hawk]

yeah

[urban tiger]

ehehe

[twilit quail]

you need to go to purple

if you want to actually graduate from v4

[ocean hawk]

ignore the theoritical

I already turn off the facilites

[twilit quail]

anyway

I hope all future hard contnet is no consumables

so we arent plagued for years

by stew meeting

[hollow raptor]

unlikely for meat to ever be automated given its nature lol

[ocean hawk]

we can put animal farm into the survey

for meat farm

[summer flower]

O.O

[remote elk]

there's no way to farm laevs essence in v4 right? or can i do it with engraves

[summer flower]

just because you can doesnt mean you should

[remote elk]

since i have more stock bills there

[woeful plume]

butchering factory

[twilit quail]

get the essence from wuling

then fodder from v4

[drifting quest]

valley 4 doesnt have one that drops both atk% and twilight

so you can never get a 3/3

[ocean hawk]

use the essence solver tools

i forgot the website tho

[woeful plume]

is it worth to get valley IV tickets to try to snipe level 3 flow

[summer flower]

you dont need website

its in game

[remote elk]

i have the site was just wondering but thought so thanks all

[summer flower]

if you check essance spot, its gonna say which weapons its match to

[ocean hawk]

i mean u can use it to find which weapon can be farmed together

since that its not in the game

albeit u can check it manually

but well

[summer flower]

that

is in game

[hollow raptor]

in-game doesn't show optimal combos for multiple essence farming at the same time. like it'll show ALL weapons for that farm, not for the stats you combine.

[ocean hawk]

this

[remote elk]

oh wait yeah the engraves only offers options from that rift

duh ty

[ocean hawk]

it only show compatible

[summer flower]

... am i that old that people cant read and get info from what's in game?

[hollow raptor]

you can farm last rite, lavacakes and akekuri essence at the same time

[rare rover]

lavacakes?

[summer flower]

CheatGPT learning?

[hollow raptor]

laevatain

[summer flower]

lavacakes?

[rare rover]

no im curious where does that nickname come from

[ocean hawk]

thats kinda...., i mean using game tools doesnt mean the player cant read

its just makes it efficient

[rare rover]

trying to use gpt for stuff like this is like trying to intentionally misinform yourself

[thorn shore]

we ALL know what cake is a reference to

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[amber vapor]

Hey at least people aren't calling her Leviathan here

[thorn shore]

truly her one downfall is the name

it isnt even pronounced how its spelled

[rare rover]

yeah but some people call her surtr guess habits dont die

[ocean hawk]

atleast in here, coz some cosplayer use leviathan hashtag on their post, which is kinda misinforming

[summer flower]

?

you mean wrong spelling or what?

[hollow raptor]

lavacakes is a cute nickname for her

[thorn shore]

or how id imagine it to be off of how its spelled

[summer flower]

Dyslexia

[ocean hawk]

nah, its just easier to remember leviathan rather than laevatain

[thorn shore]

like id imagine it to be layvatain kinda pronunciation

but instead

[amber vapor]

Something something Leviathan Ackerman hates micromanaging

[rare rover]

just call her laev

[thorn shore]

its just lava

[summer flower]

brain getting fried by trying to write somehting correctly

[thorn shore]

lavatain

forget the e

[rare rover]

nah i like the e

[hollow raptor]

wait until you read the name of her weapon

[thorn shore]

the e make its look cool but iirc ingame the mc didnt read the e

[terse furnace]

I fucking hate artificing

[thorn shore]

just read it like lava

[hollow raptor]

Sviga Laevi or something

[summer flower]

wait what?

[ocean hawk]

I hope ur other stat artificing will maxed only in 3 tries

prayge

[hollow raptor]

good match 👍

[summer flower]

that's her sig?

[rare rover]

i just barely got into that and honestly same, i was just spared from it cause my 3/3essense just wouldnt drop

[hollow raptor]

no, her demon sword's name

[rare rover]

forgeborn scathe

[thorn shore]

ive gotten 3/3 essence for ones i didnt even want

but not laev's

laev 3/3 is rigged

[hollow raptor]

it's fine, you need crap ton of fodder anyways

[rare rover]

i just got it today im so fing relieved

[hollow raptor]

getting it early makes little difference

[thorn shore]

got an entire elec team 3/3, det unit 3/3 ardelia sig 3/3

[bronze wedge]

getting 3/3 is the easy part

[thorn shore]

but cannot get laev

[open hare]

Can Endmin boil ramen in their mouth

[ocean hawk]

should I use fodder from other essence weap farm that not successful

[rare rover]

HAHAHAHA

funny joke man

[ocean hawk]

or just go in without tickets

[summer flower]

rock solid cooking

[thorn shore]

at least aim for 3/3's from valley 4

dont waste stam like that

[hollow raptor]

i mean, you have to, no?

[thorn shore]

u can get 400k valley stock easy

[open hare]

Doktah boiled ramen in mouth technique

[ocean hawk]

for whom tho

since lae is on wuling

[thorn shore]

detonation unit, thermite sword, ardelia sig, the other 2 banner chars sigs

[rare rover]

annoyingly if i may add

[summer flower]

no salt needed, there is plenty from headhunting

[open hare]

I’m gonna funny max my last right

[hollow raptor]

you can get every char's essence form v4, except lava

[thorn shore]

theres a lot of 3/3s to get from valley

[ocean hawk]

ah

[hollow raptor]

and i think one more weapon

[ocean hawk]

well I already messed up the weap selection by choosing oblivion for perlica at first

[open hare]

Surtr we trust

[ocean hawk]

since I didnt know many things to choose

now im regretting didnt choose therrmite

[summer flower]

+3/+4/+2 grandvision essence

[rare rover]

soo.... close

[hollow raptor]

kinda same tbh

[summer flower]

and i dunno if to slap more

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-just-use-surtr-gif-24975177

[ocean hawk]

we all make mistakes XD

[hollow raptor]

but akekuri will be replaced sooner or later anyways, it's just a waiting game

[open hare]

Patriot when

[thorn shore]

just replace her with antal gg ez

[hollow raptor]

i literally did that

[summer flower]

wait, we should do "just use lavacake"

[amber vapor]

She'll be replaced by Rossi trust

[open hare]

Why is he so useless in originium slug horde

[summer flower]

evert build "just use lavacake"

[open hare]

Surtr it

[hollow raptor]

rossie being fire vanguard would be so peak

[rare rover]

vanguard does NOT suit her

[open hare]

Jarvis, I need you to Surtr that boss

[rare rover]

twin dagger short speed build does not equal vanguard XD

[hollow raptor]

she's a sword user

[thorn shore]

did u see the type shit she pulled "go ahead endmin"

killed hundreds solo

idk if she said go ahead endmin BUT SMTH CLOSE TO THAT

[rare rover]

oh wait im mixing it up i thought vanguard was defender woops

[ocean hawk]

ok so uh, need opinion on: should i fix my phys team, or just build second team (lae)

[hollow raptor]

i wonder if they're going to make limited vanguards busted given the 10 billion complaints they must've received about combat having too much downtime in surveys

[thorn shore]

honestly guard suits her most probably

idk if she will be a fire unit

[amber vapor]

In Pog we trust. Chug vodka and blast hard style

[rare rover]

not rlly unless shes a physical for sure

[ocean hawk]

I already doubled down on that and I kinda messed up

[hollow raptor]

lae team is strong and has low cost, id just ditch phys entirely tbh

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/meu-gif-27420939

[ocean hawk]

iana already give the note tho

but still, I didnt have 2nd team yet

[ocean hawk]

aight

[amber vapor]

If you enjoy your current team go all in

[thorn shore]

ye literally lae team only cost is 3 level 60s and super investment into laev

[amber vapor]

In my case I made 2.5 teams and was still able to make them all viable

[ocean hawk]

the problem is only phys team is usable on my account rn

[hollow raptor]

as long as you have lae you have a strong team ready

just need to invest mats to upgrade

[ocean hawk]

about that

[thorn shore]

then play phys team till u get the resources to level 80 laev

easy

[ocean hawk]

is there another way to farm char exp or weap mats

[ocean hawk]

yeah im doing that rn

[hollow raptor]

valley shop gives a crap ton

[thorn shore]

stock redist valley 4

[amber vapor]

Wuling story and most content is clearable at lvl60/70

[ocean hawk]

already buy that all

[hollow raptor]

nah bro you're cooked

[ocean hawk]

valley 4 is a no no

[hollow raptor]

how are you that broke

[ocean hawk]

already bought all

[thorn shore]

ye how

[eternal jacinth]

This so real

I can’t build my char

[thorn shore]

im that broke but only bc im investing into a second team all 4 characters equally

[eternal jacinth]

I’m out of Creds

[rare rover]

being real the only content that requires 80-90 like demands it are just the combat trims, everything else is fairly capable to do with 70 and below

[eternal jacinth]

Eveything

[open hare]

I thought this was theory crafting

[eternal jacinth]

Literally eveything

[open hare]

Not stocks crafting

[ocean hawk]

phys team take it all

[hollow raptor]

just spend 2 weeks farming then, you've got the entirety of 1.0 if you're skipping yvonne/gilb

[rare rover]

shhh it "is"

[ocean hawk]

im gonna pull gilberta for lae

[hollow raptor]

the shop's still there. you've got a lot of mats still left to buy, esp since they're the highest tier ones.

[amber vapor]

Man those engraving permits taunt me every damn time

[eternal jacinth]

I’m going for Yvonne

[ocean hawk]

but the mats doesnt restock

[summer flower]

who uses white night nova? (blue sword)

[ocean hawk]

ah the box

for the box

[rare rover]

nah nah the WULING ones piss me off

[amber vapor]

I'm waiting till they hit 99% off

[eternal jacinth]

Last rite

[ocean hawk]

Im planning to get it all

[thorn shore]

my only regret is wasting 2 marks on laev ik damn well that by the time we get content that needs m3 skills laev will be powercrept

[ocean hawk]

but for exp and weap mats

[open hare]

What is up with people using meta

[normal tangle]

where do you even get marks

[rare rover]

[normal tangle]

they just showed up in my inv one day

[amber vapor]

Laev can use it

[open hare]

Liar

[woeful plume]

....what?

[amber vapor]

I don't care for bis sig so I use it on laev

[thorn shore]

[rare rover]

i aint no liar

[woeful plume]

how does tht even work?

[open hare]

Impossible

[hollow raptor]

i used it because i figured i'll acquire marks at a far greater rate than new limited chars

[drifting quest]

battle pass, mostly paid one
event rewards (umbral monument has 3, so likely 3 every 2 weeks from that as repeating income)
buying with pull rebate

[ocean hawk]

hello there

[thorn shore]

wdym

[woeful plume]

ohhhh i get it now

[rare rover]

a FAT load of cash right there

[hollow raptor]

1.6 mil

[ocean hawk]

and my chance rn is 960/960

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-crown-bunny-girl-lord-of-fiends-amiya-gif-5889609923450195631

You know what

[hollow raptor]

[thorn shore]

1 mark per new banner, 6 per freemium bp, 10 per paid bp

i cant think of any other sources, and to fully m3 all skills it takes 24 marks

[ocean hawk]

since I dont have good offer yesterday

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-happy-frog-gif-14752094

[hollow raptor]

umbral monument gives 3, so likely other events will too

[thorn shore]

oh yeah umbral monument

[open hare]

I’m about to see people complaint for a nerf

[ocean hawk]

isnt that event give 6 ?

the agony mode ?

[thorn shore]

probably more than 3 missions like cbt2 had

[hollow raptor]

idk, i just know it gives some

[thorn shore]

probably will give a lot more than 6

[open hare]

“PleaSE nerf UmBral”

[rare rover]

im not keeping track wuts umbral

[open hare]

Pain

[hollow raptor]

upcoming "endgame" content

[thorn shore]

it was already confirmed pretty easy in cbt2

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[ocean hawk]

HOLY

[rare rover]

should be easy

[open hare]

They are somehow still gonna find a way to complain

[rare rover]

thats hot

so friend hows OUR money doing, remember me bro we used to be in the same kindergarden

[hollow raptor]

man that reminds me, i still need to do outpost defense missions to maximize stock bills

[ocean hawk]

did u need layout, or u prefer to figure it by urself

[hollow raptor]

i need willpower

[ocean hawk]

u can do it, I believe in u

[open hare]

Tower defense sim all over again

[summer flower]

damn

[open hare]

I love Japan, where my game currency is cheap

[rare rover]

bloon td has trained me up for the task fr

[open hare]

But….

[ocean hawk]

should I get tcreds for upgrading lae

or the box

i can get like 14 box

[rare rover]

assuming u mean upgrade material box, the box so u dont have to waste sanity

[ocean hawk]

but having the mats and not the creds

[hollow raptor]

tcreds can still be acquired via quests/explo, enough to get going for now

[ocean hawk]

but having the creds not the mats

[hollow raptor]

those mats are hard gated by stamina

[ocean hawk]

so uh

ah

box it is then

[open hare]

No?

[lucid flower]

Have next patch's characters been confirmed

[hollow raptor]

you're about to share a method to farm them without sanity?

[open hare]

They already laid it out bruh

[ocean hawk]

and im broke again, just like my montly salary on the 1st day

[dry kindle]

Send help

[heavy fossil]

only tangtang

[open hare]

A exp drought

[lucid flower]

Ooh alr tysm 😄

[hollow raptor]

see if you can grind out a battlepass level or two, might be close to a tcred paycheck

it's come in clutch for me

had to sit through yvonne quest but got 90 purple skill mats out of it

[ocean hawk]

its 3 level away for me

[terse furnace]

Well that's just funny

[ocean hawk]

the 20 60 and 100 one

[dire warren]

Planning to build an Avywenna team, what's a good weapon choice for Perlica, Arclight, and Antal?

[heavy fossil]

you can check #team-build pins

[dry kindle]

I don't have paid bp

[rare rover]

dont u got like a p5 laev though

[worn field]

is leveling character to lvl 90 worth it?

[hollow raptor]

only if it's a hypercarry

[rare rover]

just for your main rn id say , like if u are SURE u wana play them long term

otherwise save them for future characters cause lv 90 is exPENSIVE

[drifting quest]

every phys yes
hypercarry yes
support no

[hollow raptor]

eventually it should be trivial since rate of acquiring new limiteds will be slower than rate of mats

[heavy fossil]

how much more expensive is 80>90 than 60>80?

[terse furnace]

Shatter is lowkey kinda fun, but I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing half the time

[drifting quest]

double? triple? the cost

[ocean hawk]

much more expensive

[heavy fossil]

jeez

[ocean hawk]

1 to 80 is cheaper than 80 to 90

[hollow raptor]

wait really?

[worn field]

phys team, but which one is more important to do, just leveling all of them to 80 or 1 char at 90?

[hollow raptor]

or just vibes

[terse furnace]

80 > 90 is ridiculously expensive. I'd only 90 your main DPS and leave everyone else at 80 - Wouldn't even promote unless you really want that Dijiang bonus

[drifting quest]

keeping them roughly even is probably better

[ocean hawk]

i mean for creds, its definitely more expensive

for exp mats, i dont quite sure

but it needs so many yellow chip

[oak sorrel]

Is this a Perfect Essence for Last Rite? Or Is only 1+ Bad?

[heavy fossil]

do you have to do promote to get lvl 12 skills?

[worn field]

200k t cred for 80 to 90 and dont forget about exp mats too

[summer flower]

you can compare exp mats like that

[terse furnace]

I think so yeah, but those only really matter on your main DPS to begin with lol

[hollow raptor]

i think i read somewhere that 1-60 is about 1/3rd the cost of 60-90, not sure

[summer flower]

as its separated mats

[ocean hawk]

if its already 3/3 then its perfect

[stoic dragon]

is it better to run frontiers set, or use this for ult and maximize breach?

[heavy fossil]

also crowns are so hard to come by so I prob won’t even bother

[ocean hawk]

if u want to farm other 3/3 that has more than +1 then u can i think ?

but why

[oak sorrel]

What is the MAX Essence Etching a Essence can have?

[worn field]

ah btw, for laeva does she need lvl 12 ult?

[oak sorrel]

Is +6 possible?

[stoic dragon]

yea

[hollow raptor]

i think they're asking about natural drop

or maybe not idk

[oak sorrel]

For example can i max this weapon out with a 1/1/1 Essence?

[rare rover]

if it aint your main for a long time [aka u plan to get a certain char speculated to be a main dps later]

dont bother with mastery, cause their just a form of genshin crowns

[ocean hawk]

if u etch the essence yeah

if stay on +1 then no

[hollow raptor]

mastery can have some interesting effects though

[ocean hawk]

the essence etch max is 6 6 3

[hollow raptor]

lava's combo skill cooldown is reduced by 1s at max mastery, as an example

[rare rover]

u can fully upgrade any essense as long as u have a 3/3

this one is a 3/3 with 1 in each spot initially and its nearly maxed

[heavy fossil]

any other characters that have these kinds of effects on mastery?

[hollow raptor]

dunno any others

[rare rover]

and i looove it =]

[outer ermine]

whel

[heavy fossil]

maybe they’re only doing it for limited characters

[rare rover]

[heavy fossil]

also is that max all skills or just combo skill to get the effect?

[hollow raptor]

max combo skill

you're looking at 18 crowns here because you still want to max ult & battle skill first

[terse furnace]

Is there a site that let's you input a timeline of skills/combos for different opreators?

[dry kindle]

Like everyone has -1 cd at m3

[drifting quest]

wait no

not like this

[heavy fossil]

it’s 24 crowns to max all skills?

[hollow raptor]

yes

[heavy fossil]

holy

[drifting quest]

you mean i need something else to factor in for calcs

its so over

[heavy fossil]

why is this game so greedy

[tight haven]

that might be our fault

we complained abt masteries not doing shit

in beta

[rare rover]

24 yes, 6 per

[tight haven]

LOL

[dry kindle]

No one sane is doing m3 basics

[hollow raptor]

comes with the genre

[dry kindle]

But yea

[dry kindle]

[heavy fossil]

I thought wuwa was bad but it didn’t have this 😭

[rare rover]

[dry kindle]

They infact do shit now

[dry kindle]

Explode

[drifting quest]

the humble yvonne:

[terse furnace]

They did say "no one sane"

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-sad-sad-cat-gato-gif-7641156108931201675

[heavy fossil]

it’s not as bad if you whel

[drifting quest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arknights-lasairfhiona-endfield-0mZbwmKx4bhKI4kQ2f

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[heavy fossil]

what’s not sane is max all masteries as f2p on a non mdps unit

which I may do

not yet tho

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[tight haven]

if youre not m12'ing fluorite are you even really playing endfield

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[rare rover]

last rite?

[tight haven]

m3 basics should generate more sp on final 👍

[heavy fossil]

which character

[tight haven]

lr

[heavy fossil]

??? why y’all ask for masteries to be even stronger

[summer flower]

ehh

[rare rover]

cuz i have a m3 char =]

[heavy fossil]

I have 2 crowns 😭 😭

[rare rover]

boy oh boy they should buff masteries

[tight haven]

yeah i might STOP SPENDING if they don't BUFF MASTERIES

would be a shame if i QUIT ENDFIELD after ALL THAT MONEY I SPENT

[dry kindle]

Isnt yvonne same as laev

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-he-doesnt-know-pepe-gif-14019260

[oak sorrel]

If u drop a Essence with already like +3 to Attack, does that mean it will be easier to etch?

or just saves mats

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[tight haven]

it will save mats

[dire nymph]

did phys gear change today or no

[ripe parrot]

not gonna lie, coming from arknights and having never played genshin, extra crowns being a part of a battle pass feels kinda disgusting

[drifting quest]

probably

[heavy fossil]

is it worth getting crowns instead of pulls or nah

[rare rover]

saves materials but only if u have a 3/3

[oak sorrel]

i see ty

[dry kindle]

🗿

[tight haven]

etching success rate is only dependent on the level of the stat

[ocean hawk]

bad run

[summer flower]

i just discovered snail thing in wuling

[drifting quest]

i think its like additional multiplier

[tight haven]

it is so fucking gross LOL

[drifting quest]

not a new one

[tight haven]

when i found out how limited crowns were i laughed my ass off

[summer flower]

or more accurate i seen memo about it

[ripe parrot]

crowns are extremely limited rn so yes if you want to pursue masteries

[rare rover]

like if u have 3 on int but dont have the 2 stats for the other 2 spots then whats the point your gonna replace it anyways

[dry kindle]

It is 😭

[worn field]

is it worth to clear em?

[ripe parrot]

remember how in arknights you could just farm mastery crafting mats?

[heavy fossil]

ngl coming off of playing wuwa which I thought was a greedy as hell game and seeing this which wuwa didn’t even have feels kinda disgusting

[ripe parrot]

wow wuwa is that bad?

[heavy fossil]

like I really thought it couldn’t get worse unless it was genshin 😭

[ripe parrot]

i'm so sorry for your loss genuinely

[rare rover]

genshin is way worst ngl at least at the start, cause crowns were VERY limited, usually event limited for 90% of them

[tight haven]

did genshin have crowns

[rare rover]

yeah to max out a skill

[tight haven]

or whatever theyre called in that game

lmao

[oak sorrel]

This takes so long to Etch xD

[ocean hawk]

definitely on my way

[rare rover]

litterally called crowns XD

[dire nymph]

yeah

[ripe parrot]

if you want crowns yes

[rare rover]

u'd get like 1 crown per 1-2 months

[ocean hawk]

WHAT IS THIS

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[heavy fossil]

gameplay loop and a lot of stuff kind of just piss me off after a while, and also 50/50s screwed me over. I suspect the same thing will happen here with 50/50s lmao

[ripe parrot]

aside from those crowns, the other crowns we get are from event and battle pass (lmao)

[tight haven]

praying they buffed event rewards

[gritty olive]

yes

but theyre only done at rank 9 to rank 10

[dry kindle]

Praying event has 50 standard pulls

[heavy fossil]

or buying 10 crowns in shop in place of ten pulls

[oak sorrel]

huh?

[gritty olive]

so we need like 4x more to fully max abolities

[dire nymph]

i got shocked when i saw bp give like 10 crowns or so

[oak sorrel]

A E5 weapon

[high finch]

Did anyone count regen set dps with faster rotation? Is it better than normal tidefall chest one?

[ocean hawk]

whel

[tight haven]

look at this shit

[rare rover]

like considering it arknight has it better, at least u can max mastery a character from launch, in genshin ud need to wait months from initial release

[gritty olive]

surtr?

[ocean hawk]

[oak sorrel]

spend 0€

[tight haven]

they cannot release it like how it was in beta

💔

[gritty olive]

you want tidefall for p0

[high finch]

Ye

[tight haven]

please bro i need mats.

[oak sorrel]

F2P

[ripe parrot]

i'm hoping the game goes the OG arknights direction where everything (including trim) is eventually clearable by low rarity ops

[high finch]

The regen one is only for p4 with
Gloves?

[drifting quest]

we dont know
dont artifice, save mats
wait for umbral monument

[gritty olive]

im still calculating stuff but im stuck at r880 ccb4

[dry kindle]

3 gold xp 😭

[ocean hawk]

HOW

[rare rover]

they dont show us the truckload of orig

[ocean hawk]

pot 5

[gritty olive]

z

[ocean hawk]

without any money

[gritty olive]

18/42

[ocean hawk]

holy

[oak sorrel]

yea

[tight haven]

that you know of

[woeful plume]

just hit

[dry kindle]

Show packs 🗿

[oak sorrel]

what packs?

[high finch]

I have lava but I fully invest my physical team cause I love it. Much more fun for me in terms of gameplay

[gritty olive]

what regen one

[ocean hawk]

wdym

[dry kindle]

🗿

[tight haven]

arsenal packs are a thing

[rare rover]

nah trust they buying the 115 dollar packs from the top up website

[oak sorrel]

bundles u mean?

[high finch]

From the document

[ocean hawk]

but still pot 5

[gritty olive]

ah

[tight haven]

yeah even then hitting pot 5 is crazy

[gritty olive]

ill make my own findings soon

[oak sorrel]

u mean the bundles?

[gritty olive]

im potgated by fucking m3

[tight haven]

are you doing 880

[gritty olive]

yep

[tight haven]

lol

i gave up

[drifting quest]

which pot

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[tight haven]

im not built for this shit

[dry kindle]

Kill this user

[ocean hawk]

BRUH

[tight haven]

okay we're doing the salting now

[rare rover]

now show us that 115 dollar pack from the topup center

[tight haven]

its not even them at this point

[high finch]

The double green trinket. For 1 enhanced skill for ult. it’s just makes your rotation like 2 times faster but at the cost of set bonus and all dmg modifiers from separate pieces

[oak sorrel]

there is a 115€ pack?

where

navigate me

[rare rover]

online on its topup site

[oak sorrel]

ahh

[gritty olive]

[oak sorrel]

i check wait

[gritty olive]

i alr gave pots to leizi and shu

[tight haven]

SHOW US YOUR TRANSACTION RECORDS

POST BANK

[oak sorrel]

sure

[tight haven]

isnt tragodia p5 required for 880

or some shit

[rare rover]

fr fbiing this man XD

[oak sorrel]

wait where do u see purchase history even

[tight haven]

actually theres probably play around it

[oak sorrel]

on website

[ripe parrot]

also i really want to work on my phys team more right now but my internet is dead right now

[gritty olive]

idk

[tight haven]

arclight is the most devious ccb max risk yet

[ripe parrot]

anyone else start physically shaking and vomiting if they can't play endfield

[tight haven]

lowkey

[gritty olive]

but i have a p6 m3 and trag to borrow if need be

[tight haven]

this shit is actually so insane

[gritty olive]

dawnseeker and deepness:

[ocean hawk]

did u need iana docs

[oak sorrel]

this?

[tight haven]

ccb mf

not cc

[gritty olive]

ah ccb

go play POO

[tight haven]

i actually skipped that one

[gritty olive]

its funny that it uses the same enemies from the same event

[tight haven]

the fucking

3 hour max risk

or whatever it was

[outer ermine]

been slaccing on ak

[tight haven]

i was on vacation

LOL

[gritty olive]

actually im gonna play blue archice since i havent done the wildhunt event, and HSR event as well

[outer ermine]

ml in 2026

[gritty olive]

[terse furnace]

Note to self, do not play Solidification. Shit is not worth the effort

[tight haven]

shatter players be like "just hit the rare fish"

[oak sorrel]

E0 Last Rite tho

[twilit quail]

me when I need 3x90 chars to trim rhodan

[oak sorrel]

[tight haven]

theres no way shatter needs all that

is there

[ripe parrot]

probably with shatter yes

[twilit quail]

I can quantify exactly how much higher it needs to be than other teams

but it's a significant margin

[tight haven]

well

[ocean hawk]

wheres money

[tight haven]

better than whatever the fuck electro is doing

[twilit quail]

nah electro is

shockingly efficient

[tight haven]

at trims?

[ripe parrot]

i feel electro is alright

[twilit quail]

yeah

[ocean hawk]

is it because the spear mechs ?

[twilit quail]

there's a 105s with 80 avy

[ripe parrot]

even for marble

[drifting quest]

electric looks fun as fuck but then i know ill mald at not pulling fangyi and/or mifu for it next patch

[twilit quail]

70 rest

on rhodan

[tight haven]

i guess rhodagn is simple but how tf are they trimming triagg without like

insane invest on avy

ig the same is true for shatter

[terse furnace]

Is this considering Gilberta?

[tight haven]

LOL

[twilit quail]

gilb can get that down to 70s

which is

[drifting quest]

gilb too

[twilit quail]

VERY impressive

[ocean hawk]

didnt marisa just did it earlier ?

[twilit quail]

for what the team is

[drifting quest]

bricked

[ocean hawk]

like 7 hours ago

[heavy fossil]

they definitely gonna make fangyi broken as hell

[twilit quail]

70s is very respectable

[tight haven]

70s??

[twilit quail]

considering what avy is

yeah

[terse furnace]

Iana, are you a Gilb truther like me?

[tight haven]

my bad gilb i wasnt familiar with your game

[twilit quail]

and she doesnt even have sig yet

[torn raft]

it's there a mathematical calculation on average how much arsenal tickets you get on a ten pull?

[ripe parrot]

dmg stacking spears actually seem insanely strong

[twilit quail]

I mean I have been from last cbt

[drifting quest]

most people here arent gilb haters

potential woman #1

[tight haven]

after playing with her semi-maxed i like

actually believe shes just better than ard

for laev

[ocean hawk]

oh, someone already doing that analysis for the char from pull , so u can do the conversion based on that char rarity ?

[drifting quest]

whale stuff

[ocean hawk]

its on the reddit I believe

[drifting quest]

waaaaa

[tight haven]

im truthed

[summer flower]

snails

i thought i have most of wuling done

but snails

[tight haven]

ard is a fucking fraud

[ocean hawk]

the snails isnt that much iirc

few on the campus

[tight haven]

gilb def feels better when youre running hot work though

[ocean hawk]

few near the aic

[tight haven]

need to capitalize on the 5s window

[ocean hawk]

and few in "some" places

[torn raft]

was wondering if there was a math average base on rates and including the mini pity and hard pity

ill check over there

[ripe parrot]

ard is overrated for laev honestly

i only would use ard for overworld (if even that lol)