#theorycrafting
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or that c2 thats a 100% buff
100 seems low for c2
At least the characters we have so far don’t have half their kit locked behind dupes
usually they're like 200+ these days
true
nah wym p5 laev can get a huge 7sec longer ult duration if she kills fodder we are doomed
clueless
p5 laev or bust'
this mans also never played genshin crazy
sigs dont matter in genshin tis headahh
It’s gotten pretty disgusting in HSR
kqm doesnt include numbers on their quick guides anymore
we dont talk about hsr
Lmao
!?
thats more powercreep then genshin somehow
Just insane powercreep
they saw genshins then doubledowned
hsr only has combat so kitcreep is faster
genshin they can featurecreep too
alt sprints and the like
compare what venti exploration qol to the natlan cast
theyve been featurecreeping weapon needing con needing in genshin for a while now
Can’t wait for our featurecreep, 5 in 1 operators
factory passive powercreep
its so over
genshin abyss is just "have the new region mechanic or cry"
wait till wuling gets faster belts then valley 4 is over for the valley 4 factory lovers
every time i want to potentially pick genshin back up i am thankfully stopped by the fact i pulled 0 nod krai and any unit i wanted is useless as a result
do you guys often switch to another character to do Finisher ?
If you do, isn't your DPS just idle around not doing dmg
gang i have nefer, columbina and the other dendro mf for nefer and the game still ass

depends on team
Especially Lae ult
As long as we always have f2p alternatives, i’ll be chilling with this game
i was waiting for bina but i dont have anyone to put her with so no point pulling
waiting for what 7.0 to maybe pick it back up and prob not atp
i mean this game you can argue laevs best team is f2p since you can guarantee laev and her wep in 1.0
obv will be incorrect after laevs banner
i just wanted to get columbina then quit and i did just that
They did it well in OG arknights so here’s hoping they can do it here too lol
the difference with ak to ef is the 12 op team to 4
i want alice but she's like not till 7.0+ from what ive heard, and if she needs nicole then its just over
Yeah true
base ak didnt really have 'big' powercreep till what year 3-ish mark and it wasnt even all that bad till the modern lineup of wis exu2 trag logos etc
probably grinding out essences
Chalter was pretty gamebreaking for that time
its kinda sadge seeing all my essence turn into dust, at least theres gels ig
the glory days of chalter and ling
Yeah and Ling
Even then, you could argue you didn’t even need those ops to clear the game
you still dont
Exactly
Anyway yeah AK is purely skill based, you can clear with any unit if you're good enough and you can borrow the one carry meta unit if you need it
yeah thats the beauty of ak but the reason for that is bosses wernt hard locked to x mechanic that y operator and only y operator had
and team sizes are 3x the size of the normal gachas
Yeah ig, do I just dump energy on any essence area with no ticket
naur you wanna try get the 3/3s
i have 3/3s
I’m levelling a second team for fun
oh then just dumb wit no ticket if you have nothing you want
I gonna try snipe 3/3 for Thermite while im in the hub farm
as someone with my name ardelia deserves 4/3
I actually do have Ardelia 3/3
W

What’s the max heal per dolly? Can you reach 1k?
how long will ardelia be free?
so you can props reach 1k with the healing set
Im just worried about investing in units cause of how expensive it is and how very clear that these units are gonna get thrown to the dirt, also its kind of a turn off for me that theres literally 0 point raising up 2 teams
Damn still pretty close
that was everything maxed
it was the like 750-800 ranch
if i remember correctly
the problem is we have no idea what the endgame will look like
cuz like if umbral is actually the real endgame they plan
then theres 0 point for 2 teams
and all actually decent teams can clear it ez
We have so much time until 1.1 that mats don’t really matter
Which is another thing, do they expect us to just not log in for 8 weeks? these chars will not take 8 weeks to build
unless someone beforehand is a really good perlica replacement for electric
i mean thats the thing
not everybody has the time to be able to log into a game everyday and play for like 4+ hours each day
And we still got a whole bunch of events that they have for us to do
if your someone who can obv after a bit you will have plenty of resources
tbf one of them is just like a 2min a day photo taking event
How do people figure out which stat to artifice on gear( mainly for tidefall last rite)?
The sanity event towards the end of the patch will allow people to prefarm so easy lol
im t credsmaxxing
Im actually so afraid to touch artificing cause of the ridiculuous investment it takes for gear thjat might not even be the proper bis
how long will ardelia be free or is it always gonna be there for new accounts?
Same
alway
s
I tried it once but I dont know which is good 😭 I just want my baby to be strong
im still debating betwen the buff set and ult spam set on ake
sweet so i can just restart whenever and she will be there haha nice ty
also sry for earlier i was just an asshole yapping 😂

Is the bonekrusha set effect stacks or charges? 🤔
lets reroll my gilberta account
Im still at low, literally only +3 int +3 atk +1 twillight, Im trying to upgrade twillight first but always failed
I can upgrade pity it with 120 gel but idk if its worth even
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1SL6sBSE5U
"yvonne clear"
anyone have a vid on fastest way to reroll in this game?
p5 rite
bros been grinding for 3 days
i wonder what happens

how is surtr's single target compared to yvonne?

my man finished piloting 50 accs w marble, dorito, rhodagn, just to get 1 good yvonne run

comically better
as in laev better or yvonne?
laev
damn
not even close
isn't she supposed to be an aoe character lol

reminds me of the trend back in genshin tc of posting 3man raiden hyper with a emotional support to say they cleared
Yvonne got put in the dev dumpster along with ember
omg guys did you see amber cleared in 30s???
fund my gilberta and ill fund yours
look at this whel
Do i get somethign in return
Just use the free 10 pull from laeva’s banner 
free 20 technically
id rather not
anyone have a vid for fastest way to reroll an account in this game
Does forced reactions like perlica electrify scales with art intensity? Or only from character dupes?
5 via login, 5 via the 'monthly' pull replacement
plus 10 via laev banner rebate
free 20
There is no faster way. You just suffer till you win
Stacked
lol aight
knowing my luck ill spend the free 10 on yvonne and get her p1
But if you get gilberta+lava you can call it a jackpot
i do too
i beat all the current 'story' in it and then the grind for the remaining missions was so boring
You have to build her if you do
i built her and last rite to test yvonne lr comps because people here would not stop coping about it
i got gilberta so far 50 away from leva lol but im not gonna try to grind that in time lol
I do love these yvonne LR vids
Is ember actually good?
3 business days to get yvone ult ones?
endgame no
overworld still no but if you want to be lazy and not dodge then sure
I mean she's not bis in any team if that's what you're asking
Yeah lmao
LR seems pretty fun to play tho
Like she gives sustain it’s okay and applies vulnerability and that’s it kinda meh
Yvonne is such a joke. You basically build her with Gilberta only to do same dmg as phys team does in 1 crush

Oh I forgot it’s also pure solo target
Im using lr and her single target capacity feels rly nice
Cause both her combo skill and ult do massive dmg and massive iframes
So you just push buttons and ur immortal
She needs a nahida equivalent for aoe i guess lol
You killed chat.
how long do yall think before mifu release?
2-3 months if she is the third character next patch?

ik its not confirmed i want guesses lol
how much damage am i losing out on if i replace perlica with fluorite on a last rite team?
2nd or 3rd banner of 1.1 likely
or just 1.1 generically if she's a 5*
I was bored and thinking what creating cosplay outfits for some of the characters would be like and....
this is definitely some kind of body armor with how stupid it looks, buttons, zipper, and belt.
I assume the zipper opens up to a long Kevlar pad, but the buttons? maybe they indicate pouches for metal plates?
Other than this contraption his outfit is possible
Hello guys can anyone help me get these Intel so that I can complete the game
y'all what's da pan's bis gear
which pieces of aethertech is it
Do u guys know dmg increase number during stagger?
plating stabilizer gloves
1.3
huh, never would've thought it was like that
thought it'd be yinglung or whatever
artificed xiranite core is a energy breakpoint
is it just t1 or
fuckkkk
iana doc has the exact breakpoint
can i have the link
pinned in team build
hell yeah
Wtf is this team tho lmao
How does ult charge work?
laev kills everything and can get ult via charge set
wulf stacks heat
pog has a faster sprint via his grapple sprint
ember lets you not dodge
thats it
gets ult in 1 enhanced skill, 1 combo, 2 team skills
if you mean the laev build
if you mean generally its just a multiplier on each ult charge gained
I will get pog one day for this team
e.g. if you have 10% ult gain % and you would gain 10 ult charge, you gain 11 (10% more) instead
Nah I'm asking if there's a list of base values with no ult gain%
there are
there was an image with them here
i forgot to add it to the resource doc
Do battle skill and combo skill give same ult charge?
no
does anyone know laevs best team
Laev Ake Antal Ardelia
No wulfguard?
his issue is he only give heat
and his personal damage is not worth over real buffs for laev
heat which is very valuable
I see
you dont facilitate enough heat gen without him unless its a 1rot timeline
and if its a 1rot timeline just do gilberta derangement teams
(1 stack for every 100sp spent)
what should i pre engrave for pog
2 i guess if you always have antal combo
but requires focus so its 200sp for the first one
300sp, 24s for your first 4 stack
I see
aka just run wulfgard
is aethertech on pog grief
Ake gives back the sp and you dont use 300 sp all at once
wulfgard akekuri ardelia
is the baseline team
antal over akekuri is optional if you need the burst
i need to run a 3set or it hurts
why p5 if ult gen is the 2nd passive
the arts intensity scales with potentials
i mean the build works at p0 if you want
it just really wants intensity off potentials
ok
i can run that for sweaty content but is his best personal damage set yinglung
because if i don't get value for money from his sig i'm gonna go crazy fr
i dont know what scales best for personal damage we stopped investing in that first
disaster
wait isn't this pretty much at the ult gen breakpoint with perplexing medication
you could yeah but I assume no food or consumable for my doc
umbral monument is no food too
kill me
i will have a maxed fortmaker by then ig
just found missing 50 originium in wuling
in the cave?
yeah
yeah lmao
bricked
is laevatain combustion damage relevant
buying dupes from store feels so ass tho
Why is pog on non active set effects on the sheet? We just stack intensity and ult gain?
dumbass cave
personal dmg is useless
even with maxed yinglung and sig his dmg is like 10% of team output
not especially
also would you guys prefer if i disect surtrs damage into components or no
pointless to go personal damage when we can just apply omega multiplier to everything else the team is doing
im still enjoying the game for now after a week of sweatsheeting so ill note what i need to change 
i hope they give him a lvl 90 set because this shit feels so ass
soon trust
frontier set with intensity 🔥
3p that scales an atk% buff based on arts intensity
and gives him ult charge
real
though personally its kinda insane that my calcs matches with the one that IWTL made. forgeborn ~20-25% stronger than umbral torch
you guys sure id only consider umbral torch and forgeborn?
How much is the damage diff of antal and ake
Heat amp + deto vs link + thermite
the next 'best' is white night which is like 20-25% behind umbral
lmao
wnn is an exercise in futility
weapon banner or purchasable?
forgeborn, umbral, whitenight, fortmaker
since it lets you run slab and still get the bonus tide offers
but also becuase you're on fortmaker not forgeborn you dont get enough int for slab anyway
so it might just still be tide
50 arts intensity on fortmaker will save it
think of the burn dmg
but yeah it's ass
really crazy to think that pog is the only unit using that weapon
idk if this is an advanced topic but why Build Akekuri around her Combo Skill instead of her ult ? is it because there is no gold rarity gear that has an ult oriented set effect ?
but you do build her around her ult?
frontier buffs too
i dont know if ult gain % or frontier is better its pure feelscraft until more data collection / math is done
but given charge foods exist i would lean to frontier in those cases
i see
i was gonna ask that
maybe ult gain % wins out for monument to get ult asap
why not more ult recharge
does monument start at 0 energy
yes
bruh
no food 0 energy start
for practical tests, frontier is better (for now) if only because it's hard to get more actual ult usages in trimmed medal
from a pure raw dps standpoint
for foodless runs? yeah sounds right
wait...you guys use food ? damn...i guess im missing out lmao
yeah i just have the meds from wuling instead of food in my consumable
Can't expect the team to work on an empty stomach
is it the perplexing medicine ? or is there better ?
perplexing for supports
ginseng meat stew for dps
stew meeting on anyone who wants ults as a tactical
yvonne when ginseng soup is taken away from her
then i just put healing on the rest just in case
but just dodge
mfw the dorito does a phase 2 2nd nuke on 5% so my run is over and i wasted 6 stew meeting for nothing
ngl, i try but the amount of skill animations i see just doesnt let my eyes see the attacks T_T
the real endgame was the slug meat and fillets we grinded along the way
once you practice the bosses, they all have somewhat of a predictable pattern
I do think there is something to be said about the shitty visibility in this game despite the lack of massive flashy visual effects
...the visibility is shitty in this game?
sometimes i just get mentally stunlocked by something i had no idea was coming
maybe i'm just too conditioned for actual bullshit in other games
but most of the time its okay
a couple telegraphs look similar too
especially on mobs that dont have really clear telegraphs to begin with
(dorito)
the only one i have a hard time with is tentacles but that's because i just tank them instead of actually learning their pattern
okay fair i don't know which specific pattern the fidget spinner does but you can catch pretty much every pattern with a side dodge anyway
that boss definitely i perfect dodge the least
its less about dodging for dorito and more
whiffing an enhanced laev skill if its doing a express trip to australia pattern instead
Does popping endmin's rock count as battle/ult damage (whichever popped it) or is it still combo damage? 🤔
my issues is the elite mobs instead lmao, leav spinning and the elite enemy red circle somehow combines with leavs red T_T
Do Avywenna's Thunderlances count as one or three separate ones for purposes of dealing damage when returning using her Skill, and for for the pruposes of giving her Ultimate energy when they hit?
Does the effect enhancement refer to the duration*, the debuff (arts dmg taken) or both?
for elec/corrosion
I do believe it says "Effect Enhancement +67%" referring to the damage taken effect.
other q, if you have lv4 electrification and proc perlicas combo skill. Does it turn the electrification to lv1 or just refreshes its duration
or it does nothing
Is arts intensity stronger than swordmancer for chen’s stagger?
if you dont have another holder for swordmancer the stagger should win out, especially on chen who applies it the most often
Ok thx
Gng what do we think fangyi is gon do
sub dps off field electric
Is there a good spot to farm fillet?
energy alluviums
for meat it is generally better go around on ziplines
and kill the dogs who die in 1 hit
in hub and plateau
ohh i see, tyty
What healing tactical should I use 🙂
whatever you can mass produce I guess
gg no more stock to earn
You can generally sell them to settlements anyways, just divert some of the excess for personal use
I just don't know what's best. I can make anything probably
Effect is increased to 167%?
Of whatever value was before
btw how do i unlock more operator ability for the outpost?
Those are skills
They are in skill window
Require rank ups
im currently using
where?
Ehh... Operator to right of level of them
is it ability matrix?
Yea
The outpost skills are set I think. Can't adjust them
The limited ops have the matching skills so far for the outposts
not showing
These are fixed based on the operator
but some of them started as white, then it enabled
then where is it
You will just have to get new operators with different outpost skills
hmmm i swear these skills unlocked overtime
im not sure what triggered it
Okay, so which skills is fixed
But to have them be usable you need to unlock them
That one needs rank up to be unlocked
You probably seen them being unlocked for your main team
While not reading what skill does
Do we have antal wulf loop rotation i only keep seeing ake wulf
How is reaction damage calculated?
I assume something like, level and some K factor, multiplied by arts intensity?
If it works like Genshin
reactions are fixed based on infliction stacks no
ignoring some external stuff like laev increasing combustion damage
Is it based on the level of your character?
Highest amount of Credits u can earn right now via Factory (Every single Ore exhausted to the max)
Yea, i did notice you wanna make citrone C
Due to amethyst use
There is nothing else to do with Amethysts
Is it even possible to keep up with the amount of stocks Valley IV builds?
i calculated u should make around 3.1M Credits in Items per/24h
so i think no
what do u not understand?
yall still collecting Recycle Owl parts daily?
ofc
I was wondering how math went
Only during my delivery runs
guys is it worth to get p1 lae?
Cause 4/3/3 on outposts i was hovering on same levels stored With very not optimal facotry setup
Or is just that 3->4 so much difference?
OG Arknights at least let you convert base building parts into something else
Expect that later
Hopefully they'll have another use
Guys does someone know if forced reactions like perlica electrification are scaled with arts intensity or only character dupes?
Buck Capsle A for example gives 70 Credits per Item which i get 18per/min, so 18x60min = 1080per/h, 1080x24/h = 25970 Items a day, 25970 Items each costing 70 Credits = 1.814.400 Credits
thats only the A Buckets
Increase wuling stocks gain
Which one is better?
Purple is better
that's the kinda math i'm mathing for every single item and the minimum amount of unloaders it needs to exist.
as well as the maximum that can fit inside a 13 loader area
thank uu
Currently purple but keep mining for matching gold
I got a juicy atk boost 3 but it was a purple 😭
I use all the 3 Outposts to craft (A) Buckets, the Main PAC im using is for is 3x Batterys and 4x Citromen
when i'm done cataloging it all, it's only for the outposts, so the entire main hub will be free for whatever, while my outposts output one of every sellable item, so i can passively collect every sellable item, but mostly contained only within the outposts
...
the catalogue is only for the depot unloaders as well, it's not counting the 6 SubAIC unloaders that will definitely still have space considering i'm saving all of my compact blueprints while i'm cataloguing
oh
oops
Brother
this is all theory though 
A mod just told you it isn´t, I don´t know why you´re argueing it regardless.
Go to the respective channel.
maybe
Can you ask in english? I don't understand what you're saying.
this is Vietnamese chat room
You can try to search for English chat room somehwhere up there

Wow...
im in wrong place
That's embarassing

I'll forgive you
So there was discussions yesterday I think right? Where it was debated slab vs tide
And slab min max came out on top right?
its theorycrafting with basically none of the usual theorycrafters on
so basically a dead channel
yesn't
which character progression should i prioritize? etching orbs or artificing gear?
If you have time
essence is better
Would you mind explaining
since its less likely to change
alrigthy. tyty
Essence up till very low chance probably, then net the guaranteed rolls from gear.
pipebomb
basically there's a lot of factors needed for slab to win out to the point that for 99% of people there's no point in running slab
So even In a min maxed scenario tide prob wins cause more situations it’s better
I ask cause I wanna artifice
But like
Don’t wanna waste resources
do the timelines for me so i can do dpsp

it's very literal
you need
max essence, max artificing, all trust farm bonus nodes
then you need to be specifically in a 0 ult starting mode (e.g. umbral monument)
then we need to still be in 1.0 and not have better units than wulfgard/akekuri/antal for heat infliction
if you meet all those conditions then slab requiring an extra combo is not as significant of an issue compared to tide chest. in those cases slab can win ahead.
the other use case is precharged ult in content where you win before the ult expires, as being strictly more damage is a benefit there, naturally. but that doesnt exist outside of whale stuff that doesnt need the extra damage from slab either
Could you elaborate?
there's also a strong argument for charge set to be strictly better in 0 energy start scenarios than slab, for obvious reasons
Also has anyone done any gilb rotations? I cannot imagine ard beats the buffs gilb can provide
it's literally a timeline of when you do what things
so the amount of content slab is actually optimal for is essentially nonexistent right now
that could certainly change but impossible to predict
okay bet so I’m safe to artifice tide
Im mostly confused about doing what
i would honestly say commit to ult charge set atp
well
its going to be more practical for most things
its rotation essentially
i was gonna say the same thing
other gacha tend to call it the rotation
U have gilb rotations maybe…?
Iana, im just trying to learn, you dont have to be having an attitude, respectfully.
its whale stuff so no
Thank you
im not a whale sadly
oh yeah yeah
id love to be rich enough to be able to spend that much
I got her when I lost 5050 but he’s fair
currently deciding between p5 laev or 1 of each char, either way its $$$
Really? When her sig comes out she gives something like 40% art sus and 35% art dmg bonus
Maxed it Out
Only need best in slot Essence now
100k rmb
lmao
ew not even p5 rite
casual 10k usd
P5? The sword is maxed duplicates
rite
aw hell no
fraud
no 50% Up
Loool
FRAUD
not loved

P5 isn't really worth it. It's better to focus on P0R1 for now for characters.
imo.
do p5 if you like the vfx
p5 every char
TRUE
everyone except gilb got fuckin scammed on the vfx
Gilb got scammed too, only the bottom of her jacket is lighter.
the eyja one sucks
might as well go for canned citrome A since you are producing citrome for burning amethyst ore
Getting Every Character atleast once is much better imo then to P5 someone, (Especially for these upgrades)
oops sry, thought i was in #aic-factory
You're okay, just redirecting you.
no idea why was he talking about it here, oh well lol
same as you
thought i was on it
Let's not

Has the garden seen any useful use yet so far
no
Sadge
Not even with LR full passives?
so the extra mats dont matter much
you get like
Fair enough
1 gold mat every 90 hours
🗿
can we just throw it out a window and replace it with a tp
i need fuckin tcreds man
still have 30 jadeleaf
gib growns
What level BP are you
🗿
52
its gonna be so ass once valley runs out of tcreds
you need like 500k for a char and dungeon only gives 34k
80 should be doable
Omega based
gotta get swiping
Im sorry for questioning you
mfw crowns on xaihi

Are Crowns actually a huge DPS Boost?
20%
Depends per character too no
25%
Debuff multipliers increased or buff multipliers increasing
yeah i was leaning towards 1 of each, rather the collection then 1 p5 laev whose gonna be power crept
Pretty much the correct route
Able to collect most, if you were able to p5 regardless, and dupes arent that big right now
Not terrible
I assume people are rocking this on Last Rite?
although the top can be changed with allot of options
3p is correct yes
yea
i have frontier armour on but i dont rlly play it so could be wrong
how far should I mastery Laev
M6 (ult and battle skill)?
doesnt need ult gen anyway
I was about to say
Frontiers T0 for ult dmg might be good
compared to this, i would always go Bonekrushka
int is a dead stat
and ult gen seems too low
That ult damage juicy tho
Hey! Is never rest viable on anyone besides Pog?
Got 2 copies of it, dunno whether I refine them for Pog, Or save second one for someone else
true, im not very informed on LR comps so idk how she plays tbh
can anyone confirm if the res down% from ardelia combo skill stays or goes away when she consumes corrosion with skill?
What res down are u referring to
what I'm saying is do you get both res down and sus or is it tied to corrosion?
forced corrosion
should be lvl 1 12% res down
Yeah it should go away
But you get a bigger arts suspectibility and arts damage taken for it back
u delete Corrosion (Consume) And get Physical and Arts buff
sadge
The enemy also gradually loses resistance, its not a multiplier instantly
I dont know by what delay tho
Not even 5k atk smhsmhsmh
i thought the res down wasn't tied to the corrosion timer but the arts burst itself
Do I have to cast her battle skill as a phys team, if I got her p1?
No its def tied to corrosion applied
I didnt Etch Essences or Upgrade the Armor yet 
Uh yeah, its +8% vulnerability on top of the already vulnerability from consuming corrosion with skill.
It feels like she doesn’t do anything w/out consuming her corrosion, but I dunno where to put her skill in the rotation
at the start
U know how much art intensity buffs corrosion 🤔
You skill right after the pink cloud from combo explodes
Thats when corrosion is applied
Yeah I get this
If you dont got SP in your rotation atp, uh, figure a better rot out
what comp are u using?
I don’t know how should I manage my skill points, if I waste one on Ardelia
Chen/]Endmi/Pog/Ardelia
Do phys teams even run out of SP with Pog
One gotta stack that phys status, before popping it up with pog
Do we have any news on Chapter 2-3?
And it is delayed, if I use Ardelia’s skill
Wdym chapter 2-3
the next content update basicly
Just call it update, easier to follow
Could you suggest one for this comp?
But yes, we have a timeline of upcoming characters.
Apparently that comp didnt even get tc'd.
Seems you wanna run Da Pan instead of Endmin with ur options.
Does call out a weird rotation tho
endmin requires super high investment and even then needs specific lines
both are getting replaced asap anyway
P5 endmin will carry trust
i thought the laev ult charge set was only worth if p4+ or is it still better without and p4 is just better
This guide is made based on beta
ah
Some things might be incorrect
Oh, I thought it was outdated
so i should start cooking an ult charge set? i just finished artificing hot work this morning gg
no
ult charge at 208% or its down to like 75% or whatnot at p4+
explained in the sheet
Difference is probably minimal enough to not warrant swapping if u finished hot set
Just keep it
But im not entirely sure on the difference, shuo would know better
it differs a ton based on content
plus the whole idea of convenience
someone like rhodagn ult set value falls off a lot because like
he dies
marble or dorito? ult set qol feels good
When we getting an actual endgame mode waaah
never

Ughhh, I’m not a fan of ugly bastard fetish
Da Pan is amazing wdym
To each his own, ig
Youre playing a game where everyone is an animal
Why we worried about Da Pan
😭
Is there a guide on each character’s best gear?
Pins in #team-build
There is also still some discussion going around on what is optimal for certain characters, so I would recommend waiting a bit before artificng
Tbf the odds of getting higher level gear is emminent regardless
Wow amazing, thanks
So it doesnt rly matter whether u artifice imo
some gear only works when artificed
yeah new gear most likely gonna need a diff artificing cata anyway so its wtv
He’s fat, he’s filthy
I mean they didn’t add spot or hung. There weren’t any obese charas in AK
@twilit quail
I really wanna see Da Pan through your eyes for a day, cause why are these things you think of with a comedic relief panda character kek
But fair enough
https://x.com/pogranichnik_hq/status/2017754009868935576 saw a pogcosplay in twitter. Might help 
Finally the first Pog cosplay I’m seeing !
He’s perfect omg 😍
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Leads to an xhs link
The fact the guy eats like a pig, once you open him in character menu, already makes me mad. Or his ugly voice when I pick up aurylens
And he doesn’t even act like that in any of the cutscenes, featuring him in both valley and wuling
That’s not even mentioning, he has an image showing his furry feet on pot 3, as a reward for getting him instead of someone useful
Either that or slab mald
Three messages after that message there was a question about clue completiom for oros
while this chat is typically more relaxed there are some topics that are better left to other places
I can't tell if this guy is ragebaiting or genuinely this delusional
im usually more reserved in
but i try to at least help to the best of my ability
Are you an active navi still.
No, but i still have the role
Figured.
You are literally @ hornymonster why you acting like not knowing what "target audience" is.
sorry a lot of people have been pinging me recently
were you the guy looking for the video
on this fight
I do and that makes me sad
Does hitlag affect cooldowns
It says a lot about the society, and we’re all a part of it
I think hes just a comedic relief character and nothing more tbh.
You the only one rn in this chat looking at him in a certain way.

But lets move on.
Sure thing
cooldowns should start at cast time for skills/combos and ult end for ultimates
ult cd could also be at cast time realistically its hard to test without wasting stew meetings guess
Is never rest sword viable on anyone besides Pog?
Got 2 copies of it, dunno whether I refine them for Pog, Or save second one for someone else
no, not really
Yeah cool
its not even that good on pog anymore
yeah it's kinda sidelined currently
Hitlag does seem to affect duration. Like, Laevetain's ult lasts longer than it should when I time it, specifically in combat
thermite more consistent, fortmaker also exists
it might be worse than p5 5*
It was bound to happen with one of the signatures
and also is probably worse than thermite which is a generic
never rest has a higher buff in theory its just harder to get
it also gets diluted
So at what point is thermite p5 becomes better than never rest p1?
oh yeah im thinking of repute
p5 fortmaker
repute has the higher buff in theory
p1 thermite
might be better than p1 sig
p0 sig
How’s that
because its nice and confusing like that
Ok
no its p1
no dupes thermite
no its p0
might be better than no dupes sig

and no dupes sig might also be worse than max dupe fort
You confuse me
So why is it worse
phys% is worse than atk% as a buff
Yes and I got two of them
fortmaker gives energy regen which lets you stack arts intensity
and then i also gives arts intensity
arts intensity increases the debuff breach applies
I see thank you
What was ult gain threshold again.
Is there some calc or prepared spreadsheet to compare?
I need to tweak my build.
no
Does it reset.
sciel my physical goat is using frontiers 😭😭
frontiers is pretty troll
So all we gotta do is believe that X is stronger than Y?
combo cd reduction is useless in good rotation cause you cant fit an extra one in
frontier is good for doing it when underinvested because you have fuck all buffing
hence why it showed up in the first few trims
yesnt
bro has 3 90s and using frontiers
Uh not sure
there's no sheet but that doesn't mean there's no data sourcing / logic behind it
It says refreshes daily above, but also stock 1
Any particular reason for Pog main.
it rotates to different weapons next week
fortmaker will come back around later on
Gotta wait for opal when it refreshes to see
Bought.
I swear Ive seen it come around
there's a third too uh
i'm broke bc of this shit
Like it takes 7 seperate days to rotate back to Fortmaker?
Prob more.
there's daily refresh and weekly refresh
it could be in either
idk if its a set rotation or a random one
Oh word
Also any particular reason for choosing Pog as controlled unit.

Or just good BA seq.
sp on final strike
Who doesn't.
pog has gear or weapons depending on build that like to have him generate sp
who are we building fortmaker for? pog?
and he also deals slightly faster stagger on his basics than other units
Yes
if i'm farming essence for fortmaker
only need lines 2 and 3
And who should consume phys status between endmin and pog?
both
In what order or under what circumstances
endmin lines i know less about
theres 1 person with late game endmin setup i think
Thermite looking kinda ass tho Do I need to level it.
not really
What is considered an endgame?
Kay.
Breach then crush.
for builds? artificing and essences
to do any decent damage pog needs to eat at least one set of 4

hence the intensity
it depends on the fight
super sweaty da pan timeline can fit two fully stacked crushes for him into the breach
Is 60k damage good or are people hitting over 150k already?
you can do it on endmin too with lifeng ult
endmin has too many cycling issues
Should be yeah
Holy 😭
Seen someone with P2R1 do 600k so
i will do int/wil/agi + ult% and hope to get gilberta sig essence in advance
isnt it only on the exposed core of marble
whats r1 in this context
or on normal
One refinement of weapon sig, or rather 1 copy
i mean yeah its screenshot%
aren't these all dog
its a full list of their 3/3's
Depends per char, per level, per setup
obj velocitous gets run on wulfgard and fluorite
Is there any tool to choose essence stats for weapons one has, or is willing to pull for?
ok then will/int/agi + ult% it is
pins in team build for a list
Ty
there's a site for it too
【48.815!独断万古物理队定轴速杀罗丹!】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1Q96sB9EuP
ayo peep the intensity
I've managed to get level 80 with 2 built weapons (only mid essences though)
the training dummy falls again
rhodagns main nuke attack deals like what
didnt bother dodging 
3k damage?
I switched to Xyranite + art kit pog.
Gotta see how this goes.
52.6% ult gain is for wut.
Ult every cycle?
to ult at same point every cycle
Is there a way to dodge it? Any iframes, etc?
but it isnt strictly needed because his ult isnt completely necessary for continuing rotation
the important thing is the other units' ults rotating
Oh you mean I can just dodge it lmao
so you can hit two crushes each rotation
also endmin speedrunning rn
lives and dies by 3x stew meeting
without stew meeting
endmin is a fraud
I thought like I gotta use an ulti to skip the damage
theres b4 the nuke and the nuke itself that u gotta dodge 
Ty
Lmao




