#theorycrafting

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drifting quest
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yeah let me skip that sig weapon that's 40% ahead of alternatives

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in a game with gated rewards based on clear time

bronze plume
drifting quest
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100 seems low for c2

rugged kiln
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At least the characters we have so far don’t have half their kit locked behind dupes

drifting quest
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usually they're like 200+ these days

bronze plume
bronze plume
drifting quest
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clueless

bronze plume
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p5 laev or bust'

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this mans also never played genshin crazy

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sigs dont matter in genshin tis headahh

earnest patio
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Lae what skills to max

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Lvl 10

rugged kiln
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It’s gotten pretty disgusting in HSR

drifting quest
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kqm doesnt include numbers on their quick guides anymore

bronze plume
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we dont talk about hsr

rugged kiln
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Lmao

earnest patio
bronze plume
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thats more powercreep then genshin somehow

rugged kiln
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Just insane powercreep

bronze plume
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they saw genshins then doubledowned

drifting quest
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hsr only has combat so kitcreep is faster

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genshin they can featurecreep too

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alt sprints and the like

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compare what venti exploration qol to the natlan cast

bronze plume
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theyve been featurecreeping weapon needing con needing in genshin for a while now

rugged kiln
drifting quest
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its so over

bronze plume
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genshin abyss is just "have the new region mechanic or cry"

bronze plume
drifting quest
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every time i want to potentially pick genshin back up i am thankfully stopped by the fact i pulled 0 nod krai and any unit i wanted is useless as a result

dry mason
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do you guys often switch to another character to do Finisher ?

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If you do, isn't your DPS just idle around not doing dmg

bronze plume
dry mason
drifting quest
dry mason
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Especially Lae ult

rugged kiln
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As long as we always have f2p alternatives, i’ll be chilling with this game

dry mason
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so i wasn't wrong

drifting quest
bronze plume
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obv will be incorrect after laevs banner

bronze plume
rugged kiln
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They did it well in OG arknights so here’s hoping they can do it here too lol

bronze plume
drifting quest
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i want alice but she's like not till 7.0+ from what ive heard, and if she needs nicole then its just over

storm oar
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Or am I just saving up for artificing

bronze plume
drifting quest
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base ak didnt really have 'big' powercreep till what year 3-ish mark and it wasnt even all that bad till the modern lineup of wis exu2 trag logos etc

lime bear
storm oar
lime bear
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its kinda sadge seeing all my essence turn into dust, at least theres gels ig

bronze plume
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the glory days of chalter and ling

storm oar
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Yeah and Ling

rugged kiln
rugged kiln
storm oar
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Anyway yeah AK is purely skill based, you can clear with any unit if you're good enough and you can borrow the one carry meta unit if you need it

drifting quest
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year 1 op lineups are still core to afk clears

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ifrit hoshi1 saria eyja1

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etc

bronze plume
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yeah thats the beauty of ak but the reason for that is bosses wernt hard locked to x mechanic that y operator and only y operator had

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and team sizes are 3x the size of the normal gachas

storm oar
bronze plume
storm oar
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i have 3/3s

rugged kiln
storm oar
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Laev is the only one that cares about 3/3

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the other 3 just want bottom line

bronze plume
lime bear
bronze plume
lime bear
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will + atk

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and str ig for when I ever get Khravengger

storm oar
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I actually do have Ardelia 3/3

bronze plume
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W

outer ermine
rugged kiln
bronze plume
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in cbt2 i reached 800

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that was without the healing set but the ult spam set

lucid flower
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how long will ardelia be free?

bronze plume
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so you can props reach 1k with the healing set

storm oar
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Im just worried about investing in units cause of how expensive it is and how very clear that these units are gonna get thrown to the dirt, also its kind of a turn off for me that theres literally 0 point raising up 2 teams

rugged kiln
bronze plume
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it was the like 750-800 ranch

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if i remember correctly

bronze plume
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cuz like if umbral is actually the real endgame they plan

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then theres 0 point for 2 teams

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and all actually decent teams can clear it ez

rugged kiln
bronze plume
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im defo getting 2 teams done before 1.1

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and next 6 star im getting is rossi

storm oar
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Which is another thing, do they expect us to just not log in for 8 weeks? these chars will not take 8 weeks to build

bronze plume
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unless someone beforehand is a really good perlica replacement for electric

bronze plume
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not everybody has the time to be able to log into a game everyday and play for like 4+ hours each day

rugged kiln
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And we still got a whole bunch of events that they have for us to do

bronze plume
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if your someone who can obv after a bit you will have plenty of resources

bronze plume
elder knot
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How do people figure out which stat to artifice on gear( mainly for tidefall last rite)?

rugged kiln
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The sanity event towards the end of the patch will allow people to prefarm so easy lol

storm oar
lucid flower
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how long will ardelia be free or is it always gonna be there for new accounts?

rugged kiln
elder knot
bronze plume
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im still debating betwen the buff set and ult spam set on ake

lucid flower
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also sry for earlier i was just an asshole yapping 😂

uneven roost
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Is the bonekrusha set effect stacks or charges? 🤔

lucid flower
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lets reroll my gilberta account

bronze plume
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do i

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ult spam ake or buff set ake

storm oar
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Did yall have to pity your +5 +6 essences

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Curious if "Very Low" is like a 10% or a 1%

lime bear
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I can upgrade pity it with 120 gel but idk if its worth even

lucid flower
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anyone have a vid on fastest way to reroll in this game?

outer ermine
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bros been grinding for 3 days

dry kindle
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i wonder what happens

outer ermine
dry kindle
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bro

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thats like

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70% last rite ult alone

fossil narwhal
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how is surtr's single target compared to yvonne?

dry kindle
outer ermine
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my man finished piloting 50 accs w marble, dorito, rhodagn, just to get 1 good yvonne run

dry kindle
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oh yeah i seen another yvonne speedrun

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it was 80% laev damage

outer ermine
dry kindle
fossil narwhal
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as in laev better or yvonne?

outer ermine
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laev

fossil narwhal
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damn

outer ermine
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PerliFumo not even close

fossil narwhal
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isn't she supposed to be an aoe character lol

dry mason
outer ermine
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she does all

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very balanced

drifting quest
rugged kiln
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Yvonne got put in the dev dumpster along with ember

drifting quest
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omg guys did you see amber cleared in 30s???

dry kindle
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anyway

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whos funding my gilberta

drifting quest
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fund my gilberta and ill fund yours

dry kindle
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look at this whel

valid zealot
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Do i get somethign in return

rugged kiln
drifting quest
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free 20 technically

lucid flower
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anyone have a vid for fastest way to reroll an account in this game

high finch
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Does forced reactions like perlica electrify scales with art intensity? Or only from character dupes?

dry kindle
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i have no weapon pulls

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💀

drifting quest
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5 via login, 5 via the 'monthly' pull replacement

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plus 10 via laev banner rebate

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free 20

high finch
dry kindle
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not being able to buy weapon pulls with ao

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is so fucking cancer

rugged kiln
lucid flower
drifting quest
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knowing my luck ill spend the free 10 on yvonne and get her p1

dry kindle
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speaking of

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i still need to finish etchspace

high finch
drifting quest
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i do too

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i beat all the current 'story' in it and then the grind for the remaining missions was so boring

rugged kiln
drifting quest
lucid flower
rugged kiln
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I do love these yvonne LR vids

high finch
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Is ember actually good?

drifting quest
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define good

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endgame or overworld

rugged kiln
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She is

high finch
drifting quest
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endgame no
overworld still no but if you want to be lazy and not dodge then sure

storm oar
rugged kiln
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LR seems pretty fun to play tho

high finch
high finch
# rugged kiln Yeah lmao

Yvonne is such a joke. You basically build her with Gilberta only to do same dmg as phys team does in 1 crush

high finch
frozen tide
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Cause both her combo skill and ult do massive dmg and massive iframes

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So you just push buttons and ur immortal

rugged kiln
trim yew
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oh wait wrong sub, but here's dio i guess

valid zealot
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You killed chat.

lucid flower
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how long do yall think before mifu release?

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2-3 months if she is the third character next patch?

gritty olive
lucid flower
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ik its not confirmed i want guesses lol

paper sand
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how much damage am i losing out on if i replace perlica with fluorite on a last rite team?

drifting quest
soft osprey
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I was bored and thinking what creating cosplay outfits for some of the characters would be like and....

this is definitely some kind of body armor with how stupid it looks, buttons, zipper, and belt.
I assume the zipper opens up to a long Kevlar pad, but the buttons? maybe they indicate pouches for metal plates?
Other than this contraption his outfit is possible

safe flax
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Hello guys can anyone help me get these Intel so that I can complete the game

dawn patrol
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y'all what's da pan's bis gear

drifting quest
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aethertech with a xiranite core artificed

dawn patrol
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which pieces of aethertech is it

quiet fable
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Do u guys know dmg increase number during stagger?

drifting quest
dry kindle
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1.3

dawn patrol
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thought it'd be yinglung or whatever

drifting quest
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artificed xiranite core is a energy breakpoint

dawn patrol
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is it just t1 or

drifting quest
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the rest is stacking intensity plus keeping aether 3p

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t3 i think

dawn patrol
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fuckkkk

drifting quest
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iana doc has the exact breakpoint

dawn patrol
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can i have the link

drifting quest
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pinned in team build

dawn patrol
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hell yeah

rugged kiln
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Wtf is this team tho lmao

fringe dirge
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How does ult charge work?

drifting quest
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thats it

drifting quest
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if you mean the laev build

fringe dirge
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Like is there a set amount of ult gain per skill?

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No I'm talking in general

drifting quest
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if you mean generally its just a multiplier on each ult charge gained

rugged kiln
drifting quest
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e.g. if you have 10% ult gain % and you would gain 10 ult charge, you gain 11 (10% more) instead

fringe dirge
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Nah I'm asking if there's a list of base values with no ult gain%

drifting quest
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there are

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there was an image with them here

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i forgot to add it to the resource doc

fringe dirge
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Do battle skill and combo skill give same ult charge?

dry kindle
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no

old gazelle
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does anyone know laevs best team

twilit cypress
old gazelle
twilit cypress
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his issue is he only give heat

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and his personal damage is not worth over real buffs for laev

drifting quest
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heat which is very valuable

old gazelle
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I see

twilit cypress
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Ake is enough

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quality over quantity

drifting quest
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you dont facilitate enough heat gen without him unless its a 1rot timeline

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and if its a 1rot timeline just do gilberta derangement teams

drifting quest
sullen drift
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what should i pre engrave for pog

drifting quest
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2 i guess if you always have antal combo

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but requires focus so its 200sp for the first one

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300sp, 24s for your first 4 stack

old gazelle
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I see

drifting quest
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aka just run wulfgard

sly nymph
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is aethertech on pog grief

twilit cypress
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Ake gives back the sp and you dont use 300 sp all at once

drifting quest
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wulfgard akekuri ardelia
is the baseline team

antal over akekuri is optional if you need the burst

sly nymph
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i need to run a 3set or it hurts

drifting quest
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could go for the 3p hot work build then

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needs fortmaker p5

sly nymph
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why p5 if ult gen is the 2nd passive

drifting quest
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the arts intensity scales with potentials

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i mean the build works at p0 if you want

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it just really wants intensity off potentials

sly nymph
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ok

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i can run that for sweaty content but is his best personal damage set yinglung

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because if i don't get value for money from his sig i'm gonna go crazy fr

drifting quest
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i dont know what scales best for personal damage we stopped investing in that first

sly nymph
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disaster

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wait isn't this pretty much at the ult gen breakpoint with perplexing medication

twilit quail
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you could yeah but I assume no food or consumable for my doc

drifting quest
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umbral monument is no food too

dry kindle
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kill me

sly nymph
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i will have a maxed fortmaker by then ig

dry kindle
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just found missing 50 originium in wuling

drifting quest
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in the cave?

dry kindle
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yeah

drifting quest
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yeah lmao

outer ermine
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bricked

gritty olive
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is laevatain combustion damage relevant

sly nymph
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buying dupes from store feels so ass tho

uneven roost
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Why is pog on non active set effects on the sheet? We just stack intensity and ult gain?

dry kindle
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dumbass cave

twilit quail
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personal dmg is useless

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even with maxed yinglung and sig his dmg is like 10% of team output

drifting quest
gritty olive
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also would you guys prefer if i disect surtrs damage into components or no

twilit quail
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pointless to go personal damage when we can just apply omega multiplier to everything else the team is doing

gritty olive
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im still enjoying the game for now after a week of sweatsheeting so ill note what i need to change xdd

sly nymph
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i hope they give him a lvl 90 set because this shit feels so ass

dry kindle
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soon trust

twilit quail
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frontier set with intensity 🔥

drifting quest
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3p that scales an atk% buff based on arts intensity

twilit quail
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and gives him ult charge

drifting quest
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real

gritty olive
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though personally its kinda insane that my calcs matches with the one that IWTL made. forgeborn ~20-25% stronger than umbral torch

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jamping you guys sure id only consider umbral torch and forgeborn?

tender zephyr
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How much is the damage diff of antal and ake

Heat amp + deto vs link + thermite

drifting quest
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lmao

tender zephyr
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Tho link only applies to the next skill

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While heat amp even on auto

twilit quail
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wnn is an exercise in futility

gritty olive
drifting quest
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gacha 6*

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the next best after wnn is like 4* int stat stick

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lmao

twilit quail
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it has int and +ATK

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good enough

gritty olive
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so five weapons

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i need one more

drifting quest
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5th is then fortmaker

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i still think fortmaker is better than the 4*

gritty olive
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forgeborn, umbral, whitenight, fortmaker

drifting quest
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since it lets you run slab and still get the bonus tide offers

gritty olive
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alright ill comeback to this message

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wdym?

drifting quest
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but also becuase you're on fortmaker not forgeborn you dont get enough int for slab anyway

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so it might just still be tide

twilit quail
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50 arts intensity on fortmaker will save it

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think of the burn dmg

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but yeah it's ass

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really crazy to think that pog is the only unit using that weapon

unborn island
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idk if this is an advanced topic but why Build Akekuri around her Combo Skill instead of her ult ? is it because there is no gold rarity gear that has an ult oriented set effect ?

ripe parrot
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but you do build her around her ult?

drifting quest
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frontier buffs too

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i dont know if ult gain % or frontier is better its pure feelscraft until more data collection / math is done

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but given charge foods exist i would lean to frontier in those cases

drifting quest
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maybe ult gain % wins out for monument to get ult asap

unborn island
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why not more ult recharge

sly nymph
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does monument start at 0 energy

drifting quest
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yes

sly nymph
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bruh

drifting quest
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no food 0 energy start

ripe parrot
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from a pure raw dps standpoint

drifting quest
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for foodless runs? yeah sounds right

unborn island
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wait...you guys use food ? damn...i guess im missing out lmao

drifting quest
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food buffs make it

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really free

unborn island
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yeah i just have the meds from wuling instead of food in my consumable

lost heart
unborn island
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is it the perplexing medicine ? or is there better ?

drifting quest
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perplexing for supports

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ginseng meat stew for dps

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stew meeting on anyone who wants ults as a tactical

mystic halo
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yvonne when ginseng soup is taken away from her

drifting quest
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then i just put healing on the rest just in case

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but just dodge

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mfw the dorito does a phase 2 2nd nuke on 5% so my run is over and i wasted 6 stew meeting for nothing

unborn island
ripe parrot
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fillets... ginseng...

drifting quest
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the real endgame was the slug meat and fillets we grinded along the way

ripe parrot
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once you practice the bosses, they all have somewhat of a predictable pattern

twilit quail
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I do think there is something to be said about the shitty visibility in this game despite the lack of massive flashy visual effects

ripe parrot
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...the visibility is shitty in this game?

drifting quest
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sometimes i just get mentally stunlocked by something i had no idea was coming

ripe parrot
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maybe i'm just too conditioned for actual bullshit in other games

drifting quest
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but most of the time its okay

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a couple telegraphs look similar too

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especially on mobs that dont have really clear telegraphs to begin with

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(dorito)

ripe parrot
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the only one i have a hard time with is tentacles but that's because i just tank them instead of actually learning their pattern

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okay fair i don't know which specific pattern the fidget spinner does but you can catch pretty much every pattern with a side dodge anyway

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that boss definitely i perfect dodge the least

drifting quest
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its less about dodging for dorito and more

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whiffing an enhanced laev skill if its doing a express trip to australia pattern instead

uneven roost
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Does popping endmin's rock count as battle/ult damage (whichever popped it) or is it still combo damage? 🤔

unborn island
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my issues is the elite mobs instead lmao, leav spinning and the elite enemy red circle somehow combines with leavs red T_T

smoky peak
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Do Avywenna's Thunderlances count as one or three separate ones for purposes of dealing damage when returning using her Skill, and for for the pruposes of giving her Ultimate energy when they hit?

dense plank
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Does the effect enhancement refer to the duration*, the debuff (arts dmg taken) or both?

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for elec/corrosion

smoky peak
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I do believe it says "Effect Enhancement +67%" referring to the damage taken effect.

dense plank
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other q, if you have lv4 electrification and proc perlicas combo skill. Does it turn the electrification to lv1 or just refreshes its duration

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or it does nothing

mild quarry
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Is arts intensity stronger than swordmancer for chen’s stagger?

drifting quest
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if you dont have another holder for swordmancer the stagger should win out, especially on chen who applies it the most often

mild quarry
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Ok thx

main echo
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Gng what do we think fangyi is gon do

drifting quest
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sub dps off field electric

rugged kiln
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Is there a good spot to farm fillet?

steel hedge
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what does dmg bonus vs staggered mean?

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the stat

drifting quest
proud vector
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Stagger bonus damage

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Not sure on the formula for how it’s applied though

mystic halo
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for meat it is generally better go around on ziplines

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and kill the dogs who die in 1 hit

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in hub and plateau

steel hedge
neat snow
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What healing tactical should I use 🙂

proud vector
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PerliFumo whatever you can mass produce I guess

crude crag
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gg no more stock to earn

proud vector
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You can generally sell them to settlements anyways, just divert some of the excess for personal use

neat snow
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I just don't know what's best. I can make anything probably

summer flower
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Of whatever value was before

crude crag
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btw how do i unlock more operator ability for the outpost?

summer flower
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They are in skill window

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Require rank ups

crude crag
crude crag
summer flower
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Ehh... Operator to right of level of them

crude crag
summer flower
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Yea

neat snow
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The outpost skills are set I think. Can't adjust them

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The limited ops have the matching skills so far for the outposts

crude crag
rugged kiln
crude crag
crude crag
rugged kiln
crude crag
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im not sure what triggered it

summer flower
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Okay, so which skills is fixed

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But to have them be usable you need to unlock them

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That one needs rank up to be unlocked

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You probably seen them being unlocked for your main team

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While not reading what skill does

tender zephyr
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Do we have antal wulf loop rotation i only keep seeing ake wulf

fringe dirge
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How is reaction damage calculated?

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I assume something like, level and some K factor, multiplied by arts intensity?

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If it works like Genshin

drifting quest
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reactions are fixed based on infliction stacks no

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ignoring some external stuff like laev increasing combustion damage

fringe dirge
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Is it based on the level of your character?

oak sorrel
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Highest amount of Credits u can earn right now via Factory (Every single Ore exhausted to the max)

summer flower
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Due to amethyst use

oak sorrel
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There is nothing else to do with Amethysts

fringe dirge
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Is it even possible to keep up with the amount of stocks Valley IV builds?

oak sorrel
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so i think no

oak sorrel
copper ridge
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yall still collecting Recycle Owl parts daily?

summer flower
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I was wondering how math went

fringe dirge
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Only during my delivery runs

atomic kraken
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guys is it worth to get p1 lae?

summer flower
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Cause 4/3/3 on outposts i was hovering on same levels stored With very not optimal facotry setup

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Or is just that 3->4 so much difference?

fringe dirge
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OG Arknights at least let you convert base building parts into something else

soft osprey
fringe dirge
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Hopefully they'll have another use

high finch
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Guys does someone know if forced reactions like perlica electrification are scaled with arts intensity or only character dupes?

oak sorrel
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thats only the A Buckets

tender zephyr
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Increase wuling stocks gain

steel hedge
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Which one is better?

summer flower
soft osprey
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as well as the maximum that can fit inside a 13 loader area

steel hedge
fallen cedar
fringe dirge
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I got a juicy atk boost 3 but it was a purple 😭

oak sorrel
midnight stirrup
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Guys

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There´s a channel for this

soft osprey
mystic halo
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go to the correct channel

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this is your only warning

midnight stirrup
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...

soft osprey
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oh

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oops

midnight stirrup
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Brother

soft osprey
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this is all theory though stitchSorry

midnight stirrup
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A mod just told you it isn´t, I don´t know why you´re argueing it regardless.

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Go to the respective channel.

outer ermine
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maybe

midnight stirrup
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Can you ask in english? I don't understand what you're saying.

dry mason
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You can try to search for English chat room somehwhere up there

midnight stirrup
dry mason
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oh wait

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wtf

midnight stirrup
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Wow...

dry mason
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im in wrong place

midnight stirrup
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That's embarassing

dry mason
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my bad

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sorry

drifting quest
dry mason
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my apologies

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Somehow im here while chatting in Vietnamese room

midnight stirrup
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I'll forgive you

pliant basalt
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So there was discussions yesterday I think right? Where it was debated slab vs tide

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And slab min max came out on top right?

drifting quest
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its theorycrafting with basically none of the usual theorycrafters on

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so basically a dead channel

drifting quest
steel hedge
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which character progression should i prioritize? etching orbs or artificing gear?

pliant basalt
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If you have time

drifting quest
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essence is better

pliant basalt
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Would you mind explaining

drifting quest
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since its less likely to change

steel hedge
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alrigthy. tyty

midnight stirrup
dry kindle
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pipebomb

drifting quest
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basically there's a lot of factors needed for slab to win out to the point that for 99% of people there's no point in running slab

pliant basalt
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So even In a min maxed scenario tide prob wins cause more situations it’s better

#

I ask cause I wanna artifice

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But like

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Don’t wanna waste resources

dry kindle
midnight stirrup
#

What does timeline refer to in this game

#

Is it the rotation order?

twilit quail
#

it's very literal

drifting quest
#

you need
max essence, max artificing, all trust farm bonus nodes

then you need to be specifically in a 0 ult starting mode (e.g. umbral monument)

then we need to still be in 1.0 and not have better units than wulfgard/akekuri/antal for heat infliction

if you meet all those conditions then slab requiring an extra combo is not as significant of an issue compared to tide chest. in those cases slab can win ahead.

the other use case is precharged ult in content where you win before the ult expires, as being strictly more damage is a benefit there, naturally. but that doesnt exist outside of whale stuff that doesnt need the extra damage from slab either

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

there's also a strong argument for charge set to be strictly better in 0 energy start scenarios than slab, for obvious reasons

pliant basalt
#

Also has anyone done any gilb rotations? I cannot imagine ard beats the buffs gilb can provide

twilit quail
#

it's literally a timeline of when you do what things

drifting quest
#

so the amount of content slab is actually optimal for is essentially nonexistent right now

#

that could certainly change but impossible to predict

pliant basalt
#

okay bet so I’m safe to artifice tide

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

i would honestly say commit to ult charge set atp

twilit quail
#

well

drifting quest
#

its going to be more practical for most things

twilit quail
#

the abilities of your characters

#

what else is there

dire wind
drifting quest
#

rotation

#

yeah

midnight stirrup
#

Gearbuilding etc

#

Thats why im asking

drifting quest
#

i was gonna say the same thing

twilit quail
#

why would a

#

never mind

drifting quest
#

other gacha tend to call it the rotation

pliant basalt
midnight stirrup
#

Iana, im just trying to learn, you dont have to be having an attitude, respectfully.

drifting quest
midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

im not a whale sadly

dry kindle
drifting quest
#

id love to be rich enough to be able to spend that much

pliant basalt
drifting quest
#

it tends to want potentials to be

#

feasible

#

e.g. p5 laev

dire wind
#

currently deciding between p5 laev or 1 of each char, either way its $$$

pliant basalt
#

Really? When her sig comes out she gives something like 40% art sus and 35% art dmg bonus

drifting quest
#

i should calc how much that is

#

real money wise

oak sorrel
#

Maxed it Out PerliFumo Only need best in slot Essence now

dry kindle
drifting quest
#

lmao

drifting quest
#

casual 10k usd

dire wind
#

14k usd

#

to have that kind of money for ak

oak sorrel
dry kindle
#

rite

oak sorrel
dry kindle
oak sorrel
#

no 50% Up

pliant basalt
#

Loool

dry kindle
outer ermine
#

not loved

oak sorrel
#

if i lose enough 50/50 on promoted banners

frank arrow
#

fuc yea

#

ah shit wrong channel sory

oak sorrel
midnight stirrup
#

imo.

mystic halo
#

do p5 if you like the vfx

dry kindle
#

p5 every char

midnight stirrup
#

TRUE

dry kindle
mystic halo
#

some char p5 vfx look worse than original

#

tbh

midnight stirrup
#

Gilb got scammed too, only the bottom of her jacket is lighter.

mystic halo
#

the eyja one sucks

midnight stirrup
#

Last Rite got a decent one

#

Yvonne too

crude crag
midnight stirrup
#

Stop bringing it up here

oak sorrel
#

Getting Every Character atleast once is much better imo then to P5 someone, (Especially for these upgrades)

crude crag
midnight stirrup
#

You're okay, just redirecting you.

crude crag
oak sorrel
#

thought i was on it

midnight stirrup
#

Let's not

oak sorrel
dry kindle
midnight stirrup
dry kindle
#

no

midnight stirrup
#

Sadge

mystic halo
#

the growth chamber works

#

but we cant afford to raise chars rn anyway

midnight stirrup
#

Not even with LR full passives?

mystic halo
#

so the extra mats dont matter much

dry kindle
#

you get like

midnight stirrup
dry kindle
#

1 gold mat every 90 hours

#

🗿

#

can we just throw it out a window and replace it with a tp

#

i need fuckin tcreds man

oak sorrel
#

this is from last rite

mystic halo
#

like this is awesome

#

but

outer ermine
#

still have 30 jadeleaf PerliDerp gib growns

mystic halo
#

we cant afford to raise the characters to 80 in the first place

#

so

midnight stirrup
dry kindle
outer ermine
#

52

dry kindle
#

its gonna be so ass once valley runs out of tcreds

#

you need like 500k for a char and dungeon only gives 34k

oak sorrel
midnight stirrup
#

Whod you spend all the crowns on

outer ermine
#

lr

#

xaihi

#

ard

midnight stirrup
#

Omega based

drifting quest
#

gotta get swiping

midnight stirrup
#

Im sorry for questioning you

dry kindle
#

mfw crowns on xaihi

outer ermine
oak sorrel
#

Are Crowns actually a huge DPS Boost?

dry kindle
#

20%

midnight stirrup
#

Depends per character too no

dry kindle
#

25%

midnight stirrup
#

Debuff multipliers increased or buff multipliers increasing

dire wind
midnight stirrup
dry kindle
#

yeah 25% difference from m0 to m3

midnight stirrup
#

Able to collect most, if you were able to p5 regardless, and dupes arent that big right now

midnight stirrup
oak sorrel
#

I assume people are rocking this on Last Rite?

#

although the top can be changed with allot of options

midnight stirrup
dry kindle
#

yea

dire wind
bold rose
#

how far should I mastery Laev
M6 (ult and battle skill)?

oak sorrel
#

i run this top

#

less ult gen, but 2 stats that she likes and 20% Combo skill damage

dry kindle
#

doesnt need ult gen anyway

midnight stirrup
#

I was about to say

bold rose
#

Frontiers T0 for ult dmg might be good

oak sorrel
#

compared to this, i would always go Bonekrushka

#

int is a dead stat

#

and ult gen seems too low

dire wind
oak sorrel
#

on last rite

midnight stirrup
#

That ult damage juicy tho

unreal light
#

Hey! Is never rest viable on anyone besides Pog?

Got 2 copies of it, dunno whether I refine them for Pog, Or save second one for someone else

dire wind
#

true, im not very informed on LR comps so idk how she plays tbh

oak sorrel
#

yeah int is litteraly dead

abstract fractal
#

can anyone confirm if the res down% from ardelia combo skill stays or goes away when she consumes corrosion with skill?

midnight stirrup
abstract fractal
#

what I'm saying is do you get both res down and sus or is it tied to corrosion?

abstract fractal
#

should be lvl 1 12% res down

oak sorrel
#

it does consume it

#

but applys Physical susceptibility and arts sus instead

midnight stirrup
#

Yeah it should go away

#

But you get a bigger arts suspectibility and arts damage taken for it back

oak sorrel
#

u delete Corrosion (Consume) And get Physical and Arts buff

abstract fractal
#

sadge

midnight stirrup
#

The enemy also gradually loses resistance, its not a multiplier instantly

#

I dont know by what delay tho

oak sorrel
#

U dont have to cast the battle skill tho

#

if u dont want to

dry kindle
abstract fractal
#

i thought the res down wasn't tied to the corrosion timer but the arts burst itself

unreal light
#

Do I have to cast her battle skill as a phys team, if I got her p1?

midnight stirrup
#

No its def tied to corrosion applied

oak sorrel
midnight stirrup
unreal light
#

It feels like she doesn’t do anything w/out consuming her corrosion, but I dunno where to put her skill in the rotation

manic blade
#

U know how much art intensity buffs corrosion 🤔

midnight stirrup
#

You skill right after the pink cloud from combo explodes

#

Thats when corrosion is applied

unreal light
#

Yeah I get this

midnight stirrup
#

If you dont got SP in your rotation atp, uh, figure a better rot out

dire wind
#

what comp are u using?

unreal light
#

I don’t know how should I manage my skill points, if I waste one on Ardelia

#

Chen/]Endmi/Pog/Ardelia

midnight stirrup
#

Do phys teams even run out of SP with Pog

unreal light
#

One gotta stack that phys status, before popping it up with pog

oak sorrel
#

Do we have any news on Chapter 2-3?

unreal light
#

And it is delayed, if I use Ardelia’s skill

midnight stirrup
oak sorrel
midnight stirrup
#

Just call it update, easier to follow

unreal light
midnight stirrup
#

But yes, we have a timeline of upcoming characters.

midnight stirrup
#

Seems you wanna run Da Pan instead of Endmin with ur options.

#

Does call out a weird rotation tho

drifting quest
#

endmin requires super high investment and even then needs specific lines

#

both are getting replaced asap anyway

dry kindle
#

P5 endmin will carry trust

dire wind
midnight stirrup
dire wind
#

ah

midnight stirrup
#

Some things might be incorrect

drifting quest
#

iana's?

#

its up to date for live

#

not cbt

midnight stirrup
#

Oh, I thought it was outdated

dire wind
#

so i should start cooking an ult charge set? i just finished artificing hot work this morning gg

drifting quest
#

no

#

ult charge at 208% or its down to like 75% or whatnot at p4+

#

explained in the sheet

midnight stirrup
#

Just keep it

#

But im not entirely sure on the difference, shuo would know better

dry kindle
#

Dpsp dies

#

DPM idk

drifting quest
#

it differs a ton based on content

#

plus the whole idea of convenience

#

someone like rhodagn ult set value falls off a lot because like

#

he dies

#

marble or dorito? ult set qol feels good

dry kindle
#

When we getting an actual endgame mode waaah

drifting quest
#

never

dry kindle
unreal light
drifting quest
#

1.1+ maybe

#

HUH

midnight stirrup
#

Da Pan is amazing wdym

unreal light
midnight stirrup
#

Youre playing a game where everyone is an animal

#

Why we worried about Da Pan

#

😭

lofty rapids
#

Is there a guide on each character’s best gear?

fluid loom
#

There is also still some discussion going around on what is optimal for certain characters, so I would recommend waiting a bit before artificng

midnight stirrup
#

Tbf the odds of getting higher level gear is emminent regardless

lofty rapids
midnight stirrup
#

So it doesnt rly matter whether u artifice imo

drifting quest
#

some gear only works when artificed

dire wind
#

yeah new gear most likely gonna need a diff artificing cata anyway so its wtv

unreal light
open umbra
#

@twilit quail

midnight stirrup
#

But fair enough

valid zealot
#

I need my Lifeng to do dmg for trimmed but like

#

No weap.

dry kindle
valid zealot
#

Me broke brotherman.

#

The 5* suckass.

gritty olive
#

Leads to an xhs link

valid zealot
#

Peak theorycrafting activity.

unreal light
dry kindle
#

Either that or slab mald

gritty olive
mystic halo
#

while this chat is typically more relaxed there are some topics that are better left to other places

undone condor
#

I can't tell if this guy is ragebaiting or genuinely this delusional

gritty olive
#

DuduStare im usually more reserved in OffTopic but i try to at least help to the best of my ability

valid zealot
#

Are you an active navi still.

gritty olive
#

No, but i still have the role

valid zealot
#

Figured.

#

You are literally @ hornymonster why you acting like not knowing what "target audience" is.

twilit quail
#

were you the guy looking for the video

#

on this fight

gritty olive
#

Does hitlag affect cooldowns

unreal light
#

It says a lot about the society, and we’re all a part of it

valid zealot
#

Who are we to judge.

midnight stirrup
#

I think hes just a comedic relief character and nothing more tbh.

#

You the only one rn in this chat looking at him in a certain way.

#

But lets move on.

unreal light
#

Sure thing

drifting quest
#

ult cd could also be at cast time realistically its hard to test without wasting stew meetings guess

unreal light
#

Is never rest sword viable on anyone besides Pog?

Got 2 copies of it, dunno whether I refine them for Pog, Or save second one for someone else

drifting quest
#

no, not really

drifting quest
#

its not even that good on pog anymore

unreal light
mystic halo
#

yeah it's kinda sidelined currently

fluid loom
#

Hitlag does seem to affect duration. Like, Laevetain's ult lasts longer than it should when I time it, specifically in combat

drifting quest
#

thermite more consistent, fortmaker also exists

mystic halo
#

it might be worse than p5 5*

midnight stirrup
#

It was bound to happen with one of the signatures

mystic halo
#

and also is probably worse than thermite which is a generic

drifting quest
#

never rest has a higher buff in theory its just harder to get

mystic halo
#

it also gets diluted

valid zealot
#

Nice my 80 pulls is in vain?

unreal light
#

So at what point is thermite p5 becomes better than never rest p1?

drifting quest
#

oh yeah im thinking of repute

mystic halo
#

no no

#

p1 thermite

midnight stirrup
#

p5 fortmaker

drifting quest
#

repute has the higher buff in theory

midnight stirrup
#

p1 thermite

mystic halo
#

might be better than p1 sig

drifting quest
#

p0 sig

unreal light
#

How’s that

drifting quest
#

because its nice and confusing like that

unreal light
#

Ok

drifting quest
#

no its p1

mystic halo
#

no dupes thermite

drifting quest
#

no its p0

mystic halo
#

might be better than no dupes sig

drifting quest
mystic halo
#

and no dupes sig might also be worse than max dupe fort

unreal light
#

You confuse me

drifting quest
#

its p0

#

6 copies of a weapon to max it out at p5

unreal light
#

So why is it worse

drifting quest
#

phys% is worse than atk% as a buff

unreal light
valid zealot
#

They just listed.

#

above.

drifting quest
#

fortmaker gives energy regen which lets you stack arts intensity

#

and then i also gives arts intensity

#

arts intensity increases the debuff breach applies

valid zealot
#

Someone donates me 3 forts.

unreal light
drifting quest
#

i started buying fortmakers lmao

#

i dont even have pog

mystic halo
#

🫡

valid zealot
#

What was ult gain threshold again.

unreal light
#

Is there some calc or prepared spreadsheet to compare?

valid zealot
#

I need to tweak my build.

drifting quest
#

no

valid zealot
sly nymph
#

sciel my physical goat is using frontiers 😭😭

mystic halo
#

frontiers is pretty troll

unreal light
mystic halo
#

combo cd reduction is useless in good rotation cause you cant fit an extra one in

drifting quest
#

frontier is good for doing it when underinvested because you have fuck all buffing

#

hence why it showed up in the first few trims

sly nymph
#

bro has 3 90s and using frontiers

valid zealot
midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

there's no sheet but that doesn't mean there's no data sourcing / logic behind it

midnight stirrup
#

It says refreshes daily above, but also stock 1

valid zealot
#

Any particular reason for Pog main.

drifting quest
#

fortmaker will come back around later on

midnight stirrup
#

Gotta wait for opal when it refreshes to see

valid zealot
#

Oh nice.

#

Is there any other good one to pick up.

mystic halo
#

stanza

#

I guses

valid zealot
#

Bought.

mystic halo
#

I swear Ive seen it come around

drifting quest
#

there's a third too uh

sly nymph
#

i'm broke bc of this shit

midnight stirrup
valid zealot
#

Prob more.

midnight stirrup
#

Cause shop refreshes daily

#

for Fortmaker section

drifting quest
#

there's daily refresh and weekly refresh

#

it could be in either

#

idk if its a set rotation or a random one

midnight stirrup
#

Oh word

valid zealot
#

Also any particular reason for choosing Pog as controlled unit.

#

Or just good BA seq.

sly nymph
#

sp on final strike

valid zealot
#

Who doesn't.

drifting quest
#

pog has gear or weapons depending on build that like to have him generate sp

dire wind
#

who are we building fortmaker for? pog?

drifting quest
#

and he also deals slightly faster stagger on his basics than other units

midnight stirrup
#

Yes

sly nymph
#

if i'm farming essence for fortmaker

mystic halo
#

only need lines 2 and 3

drifting quest
#

you can do a 2/3 for fortmaker

#

yeah

unreal light
#

And who should consume phys status between endmin and pog?

drifting quest
#

both

unreal light
#

In what order or under what circumstances

drifting quest
#

endmin lines i know less about

#

theres 1 person with late game endmin setup i think

valid zealot
#

Thermite looking kinda ass tho Do I need to level it.

drifting quest
#

not really

unreal light
valid zealot
#

Kay.

valid zealot
drifting quest
#

for builds? artificing and essences

mystic halo
#

to do any decent damage pog needs to eat at least one set of 4

valid zealot
mystic halo
#

hence the intensity

sly nymph
mystic halo
#

super sweaty da pan timeline can fit two fully stacked crushes for him into the breach

main jasper
#

Is 60k damage good or are people hitting over 150k already?

sly nymph
#

you can do it on endmin too with lifeng ult

mystic halo
#

endmin has too many cycling issues

drifting quest
#

arent we at the million point right now

#

for last rite whales

midnight stirrup
#

Should be yeah

main jasper
midnight stirrup
#

Seen someone with P2R1 do 600k so

sly nymph
#

i will do int/wil/agi + ult% and hope to get gilberta sig essence in advance

tender zephyr
#

isnt it only on the exposed core of marble

dire wind
tender zephyr
#

or on normal

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

i mean yeah its screenshot%

sly nymph
#

aren't these all dog

drifting quest
#

its a full list of their 3/3's

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

obj velocitous gets run on wulfgard and fluorite

unreal light
#

Is there any tool to choose essence stats for weapons one has, or is willing to pull for?

sly nymph
#

ok then will/int/agi + ult% it is

drifting quest
unreal light
#

Ty

drifting quest
#

there's a site for it too

mystic halo
#

ayo peep the intensity

main jasper
drifting quest
#

the training dummy falls again

mystic halo
#

i like how the guy gets hit

#

like 4 times

drifting quest
#

rhodagns main nuke attack deals like what

outer ermine
#

didnt bother dodging PerliWheeze

drifting quest
#

3k damage?

valid zealot
#

I switched to Xyranite + art kit pog.

#

Gotta see how this goes.

#

52.6% ult gain is for wut.

#

Ult every cycle?

mystic halo
#

to ult at same point every cycle

unreal light
drifting quest
#

yeah you can dodge it

#

but like

#

oh well if you dont

mystic halo
#

but it isnt strictly needed because his ult isnt completely necessary for continuing rotation

drifting quest
#

you should dodge it

#

free sp

mystic halo
#

the important thing is the other units' ults rotating

unreal light
drifting quest
#

yeah

#

going to hide from it is a dps brick

mystic halo
#

so you can hit two crushes each rotation

unreal light
#

I totally forgot about that

#

Lmao

mystic halo
#

also endmin speedrunning rn

#

lives and dies by 3x stew meeting

#

without stew meeting

#

endmin is a fraud

unreal light
#

I thought like I gotta use an ulti to skip the damage

outer ermine
#

theres b4 the nuke and the nuke itself that u gotta dodge PerliFumo

unreal light
#

Ty

mystic halo
#

yeah he has a minifart

#

before the big fart

unreal light
#

Lmao