theorycrafting

[gritty olive]

surtr enhanced N1 and N2 is probably incorrect in scailng

[tight haven]

maybe maybe

[gritty olive]

it might be using a number scaling after it

[bronze plume]

we got remember this is the honeymoon period for the gacha

in 1.1 bthats gone

[rare rover]

also if she calls me a brat and somehow is a 5 star i aint letting that slide

[bronze plume]

and we can barely only get 2/3 of the 6 stars this patch worst luck

[rare rover]

calling me a brat was ONE THING but not having the stars to back it up is ANOTHER

[heavy fossil]

As someone who went from pgr to wuwa (same company but wuwa way more p2w) I don’t have any expectations from hg

[gritty olive]

YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING ME

[bronze plume]

you telling me theres a chance for 6 more in 2 patches

gang we are cooked

[gritty olive]

IT IS SCALED INCORRECTLY???????????????///

[tight haven]

yeah pgr to wuwa is crazy shit

[heavy fossil]

2 weeks per banner

[bronze plume]

marshala rossi better not be the first 6 star in 1.2

[heavy fossil]

unreal levels of greed

[tight haven]

imagine getting free units

[rare rover]

im still confused on what u needed help with on that lol

[gritty olive]

im getting incorrect numbers because of misinfo

[fossil helm]

The gacha looks real dire

[gritty olive]

im using lvl9 multipliers to backtrack calculation
enhanced n1 and enhanced n2 peculiarly is offplace, and its because enhanced n1 and enhanced n2 are using lvl10 multipliers

[outer ermine]

[bronze plume]

they didnt listen to shit we said in cbt2 bro

[heavy fossil]

nah they gonna make mifu and zfy bis teammates

[bronze plume]

we are cooked

[heavy fossil]

in the same patch lesgoooo

[gritty olive]

[rare rover]

no clue what that means so imma just nod my head yes

[fossil helm]

Several things just feel unreal to me, like the 120 guarantee disappearing if you get a random roll early

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[fossil helm]

Mfw you get the char at like 100 pulls and dont even get the consolation p1

[drifting quest]

I think its likely dire given the 5 upcoming we know are pretty 6* coded due to story relevance and hype

[gritty olive]

that means im using incorrect data to calculate because for some reason, the scaling for the current level is incorrect, and is placed on the next level

[rare rover]

funny, eidolons and lightscones, u sure this aint a hsr spreadsheet

[gritty olive]

this is an hsr spreadsheet

[heavy fossil]

they were trying SO HARD to sell zhuang fangyi

[gritty olive]

which i modified for endfield

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

its a decent gacha system with so many underlining if x happens y happens and z doesnt give w
and its just like why tf add all theres if parts into it

[dry kindle]

Green woman

[rare rover]

it worked

i saw the jade lady in the sky and went

[gritty olive]

yeah thanks kee hes a friend

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/gifgod-remasteredgifs-the-weeknd-looking-up-blinding-lights-gif-17822278957080294567

[heavy fossil]

and it does genuinely detract from the system (main issue is the 120 not carrying though)

[bronze plume]

why doesnt the 120 give arsenal why doesnt every 240 give arsenal
why doesnt 120 carry
why is it always 50/50
and most importantly where are my arsenal tickets

[heavy fossil]

why can’t we convert red balls into arsenal tickets

[fossil helm]

Its not decent cuz you are genuinely punished for being lucky, and you're absolutely trolling if you roll without having 120 pulls to spend, you can't peck at a banner for fun at al cuz nothing carries over

[heavy fossil]

????

[gritty olive]

thats a risk youre willing to take

i just dont impulse pull, after me not getting who i want in blue archive

[blazing lake]

im ngl i played this game with the intent to just play it like i normally do

gamba is not an issue for me

[safe sand]

[fossil helm]

Good for you

[gritty olive]

you will learn it the hardway one way or another

[bronze plume]

imma drag yo ass to a casino make you bet all on black

[gritty olive]

i now play six gacha games so i can impulse pull wheneber i want, but in the end if you have restarint yuoll be content

[bronze plume]

if i cant get gilbertas weapon without pulling on character banner within the 3 limited banners it exist

[rare rover]

cause if they were going to allow u to convert red bond quota into arsenal then why give it in the first place, u get both of them from pulling

[fossil helm]

Meaningless drivel when discussing a gacha vs its contemporaries

[bronze plume]

shits still chalked

[heavy fossil]

it’s annoying cause this game has a 50/50. Like if it did carry over the I might just pull to 50/50 and if I get the character then I don’t have to save as much for the next one.

[heavy fossil]

no I meant oroberyl or whatever it’s called lol

[rare rover]

ah

yea thats dumb

[blazing lake]

you ever play dokkan?

[heavy fossil]

SCAM ALERT

[bronze plume]

<@&956153874383781928>

[gritty olive]

just report

skipper did reports and we arent using it

[bronze plume]

shock

that guy 100% got hacked

2021 discord account

[gritty olive]

yeah it seems

[dry kindle]

No one even knows it exists

[gritty olive]

[heavy fossil]

ye I see a lot of hacked accounts lately

[gritty olive]

welp

[bronze plume]

icl the last time i dmed the mod bot

it just ignored me

[drifting quest]

Its usually 1 or 2 a day

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[bronze plume]

and it was someone who sent a video with the nono word in it

[heavy fossil]

no, and if it has 50/50 then I hope to never

[rare rover]

when gils banner

[heavy fossil]

You know what, if I lose my next 50/50 in endfield i’m just gonna quit no questions asked. I hate 50/50s they are so lame

[rare rover]

i need to pull on her so i can get more arsenal for scathe

[blazing lake]

the game doesnt have 50/50's

:)

[bronze plume]

like a week

[rare rover]

sob

[fossil helm]

valid, don't reward them with your playtime for this shit

[rare rover]

thats too long

[blazing lake]

granblue doesnt have 50/50s

[heavy fossil]

finally

[manic blade]

so y'all know best laeva armor for p4

[blazing lake]

pity is 90k crystals

which is 30 multi summons

[rare rover]

real chads hit at 500

[heavy fossil]

The only gacha I play other than ef is pgr which is guaranteed at 60 pulls, and 80/20 for weapons at 30 pulls

[blazing lake]

yall take gambling for granted

[manic blade]

pgr is peak

[heavy fossil]

and pull income is like 7 pulls from weeklies INSTEAD OF ONE IN ENDFIELD

[blazing lake]

i basically grew up in the trenches

you get goop or get shafted

[heavy fossil]

not to mention the patch sync era of like 13/14 pulls just from weeklies

[rare rover]

i hate and like the arsenal system

on one hand 0 gurantee and 25/75 rate

on the other 4% 6 star drop rate and its a sepperate currency u get from wishing on chars

[blazing lake]

welp

i havent summoned at all

[rare rover]

man some gacha drop rates are dog shit, people who started with hoyo got it good

[heavy fossil]

sounds crazy but I don’t actually like gambling in these games. Just give me the character, this 50/50 stuff is ridiculous

[rare rover]

i see as i look back to a obscure gacha game with a 2% increase in percent for a limited

[gritty olive]

its "ignored" but skippers response was they dont need to bother to respond back

[rare rover]

let alone .2% XD

[blazing lake]

im ngl the thrill gambling isnt whats addicting

its just rolling with what you're given

i like a good challenge

no salt accounts if i get shafted

[bronze plume]

i see

[blazing lake]

raw dog and make do

[rare rover]

man your just a gambling addict

[heavy fossil]

yeah nah it just feels scummy

[gritty olive]

its a popular eastern video game monetization method since spending a bulk amount for a game can be "harsh" to some but like installments seems not so much as a burden

[blazing lake]

could it explain why i got surtr & her main weapon in only 3 multis

[gritty olive]

welcome to gacha games, where artificial induced scarcity drives spending

[blazing lake]

no because i gamble for fun

[rare rover]

same typa shi people would say in vegas lmao

[blazing lake]

not for #serious my life depends on it

yall gambling like its your life savings

[heavy fossil]

yeah I think I’ve had just about enough of gacha, endfield will probably be my last lmao

[blazing lake]

im betting in pennies and dimes

they're betting in chips and gold coins

[rare rover]

im starting to realize most of us are here cause we completed most of the game and are wasting time chatting cause its arknights related which is a substitute to the actual game arent we

[gritty olive]

no

its still best to keep this at a theorycraftin level as much as possible

[rare rover]

might just be me but looking at the game open while i chat just reminds me of why im here

[gritty olive]

but since not most of us are sweatsheeters, most just post their clears or ideas on rotations

[heavy fossil]

yeah it did kinda go pretty off topic

[drifting quest]

Energy generation sheet today (i wont do it)

[blazing lake]

you think i used a damage calculator to beat all of the content

nah fuck that!

[rare rover]

honestly your the only theory crafter ive seen here XD

[gritty olive]

@dry kindle

[blazing lake]

ask randoms and roll with opinion based builds

[dry kindle]

Pipebomb

[dry kindle]

I needa confirm that dumbass slab rotation from prydwen

[rare rover]

it just doesnt make sense too

[gritty olive]

[rare rover]

cause your scrapping 2 pieces of gear with int just for 20% main attribute

[dry kindle]

Already confirmed slab literally has lower damage ceiling

[blazing lake]

who is this person btw

did they make a video or smth

[rare rover]

not a suprise

[dry kindle]

😭

[dry kindle]

Website

[rare rover]

website thats been there for as long as i can remember my genshin days

[blazing lake]

oh its this website

[gritty olive]

prywden is a website

[gritty olive]

prywden was a term frmo counterside which was post genshin game

[dry kindle]

Like wow even in a 1 ebs ult YOU DO 1.5% MORE FUCKING DAMAGE

😭

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[dry kindle]

We are not real

[rare rover]

holy slab is dog

[drifting quest]

Is there a list of energy generated by ability

Or am i doing it myself for half the cast

[grim nacelle]

how goes chivalric virtues against dreams of the starry beach? wanna build my ardelia now

[dry kindle]

6.5 energy/100 real sp consumed

Combos

Idk

Have fun

[gritty olive]

combo is 10 sp for user

[drifting quest]

I was talking like energy per stack consumed on yvonne

Laev enhanced skill

[rare rover]

im curious do u just go into the value for each stat and do the math yourself or go in game to check it directly, never rlly got how people do spread sheets for these numbers

[dry kindle]

It still sounds wrong

Like surely fluorite combo isn't 10 energy

On a 40s cd

Surely

[blazing lake]

"why do you hate slab"
idk feels like ass to use

[dry kindle]

Feels ass

[blazing lake]

basically how i based my opinion on this

[rare rover]

[dry kindle]

Does less damage

[blazing lake]

no im serious

[dry kindle]

Expensive as fuck

Lovely

[blazing lake]

i used to use slab before i didnt know if it was good or not

when i was like man this damage kinda butt

had to switch around and see whats up

[rare rover]

yea im just curious how he got those numbers

doing the math grabbing the values or going into the game itself and checking

[tender zephyr]

Spreadsheet people doko

[summer flicker]

what good to go to m3 beside ult

[rare rover]

i assume its the former but where is he getting the values from unless theres something i missed

[rare rover]

all in

MOORE

MOOOOOOOOOORE

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[summer flicker]

i only have 12 crown left, that's enuf for 2

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/fogo-more-star-wars-gif-13624709056817377234

[fossil helm]

sure hope I'm not gonna get bit in the ass for my decision to continue investing in my avywenna team after getting laevatain cuz her gameplay is 500% more fun

[charred wigeon]

how much of an upgrade is laevatain's first dupe?

[fossil helm]

my times on the bosses aren't too promising

nowhere near 240s

[rare rover]

anywenna's team is more likely to get replaced soon since shes a 5 star ngl

but who knows

[dry kindle]

Math and grabbing values

[fossil helm]

but its the only engaging team...

[rare rover]

maybe she wont get replaced by a 6 star electric main dps and ell electric 6 stars are supports

[fossil helm]

id be surprised if zhangyu isn't a dps

[dry kindle]

Start praying fangyi is a support

[rare rover]

now im wondering where he gets the values

[fossil helm]

fangyi, whatever

[dry kindle]

Pain and suffering

[gritty olive]

how is there a 5% discrepancy

[blazing lake]

its probably possible

[rare rover]

worry not, i benefit from your numbers pain free

[blazing lake]

i saw a video of someone doing trim marble with her i think

lemme look for it

[rugged kiln]

She gives you a thundercloud and spams lightning strikes on enemies on your man dps

[gritty olive]

4494.5 atk
44.8% heat damage + 81.80% skill damage
lvl9 skill = 264% scaling

4494.5 * (1+0.448+0.818) * (0.5) * (1.2) * (2.64) is 16132, and is like 5% of 16744

[carmine swift]

How do i fix this regional placement limit? Im Region Develop Level 5 btw. I cant build

[dry kindle]

Most normal tc question

Also forge of the sky limit

[blazing lake]

https://youtu.be/GgUwcPvNF-4?si=c1h6Ye5mUk11VyYA

this video is fire

i should try this if i had the resources

[dry kindle]

Meanwhile yvonne

[blazing lake]

fuck that

i dont like her

[rare rover]

question for aic factory ngl

[drifting quest]

Stay on that side
When the male sankta is 300 sp, an extra sp bar, 4 cryo infliction per ba sequence
100 cr 300 cd printer
Stay on that side

[gritty olive]

manifesting andoian?

[safe sand]

where r u testing

[drifting quest]

Something something latin expletive

[gritty olive]

i already have numbers

[dry kindle]

Last rite is still better then

💀

[safe sand]

are these in game recorded numbers

[gritty olive]

my problem is that i cant sync the numbers

yeps

[safe sand]

if so where were they recorded

[gritty olive]

https://streamable.com/24p8bj from here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=245588407#gid=245588407 if you want to help me calculate you can check here

[safe sand]

ic

[drifting quest]

Nuh uh you forgot the talent that says 'if last rite is on the team then explode'

[blazing lake]

what does this mean...

[dry kindle]

Yvonne needs a gilberta on steroids to beat rite

And by then you probably have a p3 rite from offbanner

[gritty olive]

i already recorded the damage, just combo ee1 ee2 ee3 are not properly sunced

[dry kindle]

🗿

[gritty olive]

the scaling after didnt sync it

[safe sand]

hmm seems too large to be quantization jank

[gritty olive]

the person doing this was just doing N5s and a combo skill

[hard skiff]

did i use my resources right? im lvl 50 only developed my valley 4

[dry kindle]

fml there was a cn laev timeline and now i cant find it

[gritty olive]

endaxis?

[dry kindle]

nvm found it

[gritty olive]

what cn laev timeline

[rare rover]

geniunely for aic factory chat

theory crafting gets off topic sometimes but def not for factory lol

[old salmon]

i think you're missing a few amethyst nodes

[hard skiff]

oh my bad didnt know that chat exist

[hard skiff]

ye i dont rly use them

[safe sand]

@gritty olive what do EN1/2/3/4 refer to

[blazing lake]

do weapon dupes do anything?

[gritty olive]

enhanced normal

[rare rover]

lmao

[gritty olive]

EN1 and EN2 were using lvl10 damage numbers
EN3 and EN4 were using lvl9 damage number

[blazing lake]

what does this even mean

[hard skiff]

yea i dont have mine as auto add, thanks tho

[gritty olive]

skill level 9 ult has its own numbers
but enhanced basic1 and enhanced basic2 was using level 10 ult numbers
enhanced basic3 and enhanced basic4 fortunately are still using lvl 9 ult numbers

[neon cave]

does the Frontiers gear set effect trigger on any skill? battle skill, combo skill, and ultimate skill?

[dry kindle]

Anything that generates sp yes

[blazing lake]

ah ok

[neon cave]

Would Final Strike at the end of basic attacks trigger it?

[dry kindle]

No

[neon cave]

ayt thanks

[safe sand]

@neon latch sim formula is batk * .5 univ. defmod * 1 (unbuffed whatever) * skillmulti * dmg dealt bonus? (sorry random user)

[gritty olive]

* all dmg

so dmg = (1 + otherdmg + heatdmg)

[safe sand]

for the last multiplier

[grim nacelle]

how goes chivalric virtues against dreams of the starry beach as a weapon for ardelia?

[safe sand]

hm

[drifting quest]

Does chiv even pop on ardelia

[safe sand]

@neon latch does corrosion have any effects on damage here

[drifting quest]

Even if it does starry is better for arts but

[safe sand]

ugh wrong ping

sorry monika

@gritty olive

[drifting quest]

But chiv is on a skill healing

[valid zealot]

Morb

xdd

[drifting quest]

Ard heals off talent

Two wrong pings

[safe sand]

its actualy so cooked

[drifting quest]

Its so over

[valid zealot]

icant

[safe sand]

how do i ping this mf

[valid zealot]

morbnika

[safe sand]

that...works...?

[safe sand]

this doesn't work either its so fucked up man

[valid zealot]

morbnika

[gritty olive]

what

[gritty olive]

im not sure

[valid zealot]

He doesn't like your name.

runfast

[rugged kiln]

So you’re saying i have been using a weaponless ardelia this whole time?

[safe sand]

endfield wikigg says this

[gritty olive]

what

[hollow stream]

Is last rite, xaihi, fluorite, snowshine better than replacing snowshine for ardelia?

[gritty olive]

corrosion lasts 7 seconds right

[drifting quest]

I dont know if 'skills' counts talents too

[safe sand]

ardelia's is shorter right

[drifting quest]

Yes

Temporary applications are shorter

[rugged kiln]

Time to go test in game

[safe sand]

seems to be the case for ardelia

[lime bear]

so Umbral Monument endgame cycle is 2 weeks cycle judging by this

[gritty olive]

yeah goodshit

[safe sand]

woohoo

[gritty olive]

now its correct

[drifting quest]

Its permanent content

[gritty olive]

now i just need to see this in my simulation

[rare rover]

wait now im confused here does scathe stay for the next 2 banners or no

[gritty olive]

currently its like this

[dry kindle]

Dies

[blazing lake]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-im-about-to-morb-its-morbin-time-morbius-sweep-marvel-gif-25782014

[rugged kiln]

Did you guys set up a full ginseng farm in Wuling?

[gritty olive]

i should just change my nickname to something else

[safe sand]

if im being completely honest its probably just easier to use the reply function like this 99% of the time anyway lol

[nova lance]

Do I need to mastery my skills or is sl9 fine for laev?

[rare rover]

sharks it ends at the 7th, bruh that msg is so misleading tf

[lime bear]

so not truly typical endgame stuff that cycles? would be interesting if they make every endgame permanent tho unlikely I think

[fallen cedar]

Which consumable is best for boss killing rn? Is jinseng soup’s flat 100 attack boost any good?

[drifting quest]

Per cbt its just 3 stages then nothing more

And based on the medal for it that hasnt changed

[lime bear]

no timer reset stuff in x days?

[drifting quest]

None per cbt

[nova lance]

Any1?

[gritty olive]

@safe sand seems that the corrosion res debuff got ignored by laev's own

[neon latch]

why tf did i got ping 2 times?

[safe sand]

name confusion, sorry about that

too many monikas...

[rare rover]

[gritty olive]

i was the person to be pinged but theres too many monikas

so i just changed my name to something else for now

[safe sand]

is fine

[lime bear]

since theres no really endgame mode that needs 2 teams u should just hyperinvest in Laevatain, mastery her ult first then battle skill I think

[gritty olive]

this name is distinct to not be confusing

[safe sand]

laev basically just gets dmg from her masteries

[rugged kiln]

My attack after picking up the sheep, so no Chiv does not work because it's supposed to be a 10.8% increase to attack

[drifting quest]

I didnt think it worked

But good to know

[gritty olive]

this is good enough ig

[rugged kiln]

Lol i have been using a trash weapon on her all this time

[gritty olive]

[bronze plume]

what happend to monika

shes gone

[rare rover]

[drifting quest]

[safe sand]

was this my fault

[neon latch]

aite

remember to double check b4 enter

[rare rover]

yay our favorite monika is back

[outer ermine]

[wintry hazel]

Have anyone w electric team

Get trimmed badge outside of rhodagn?

[rare rover]

NOPE

woops caps

was in build mode XD

[dry kindle]

https://youtu.be/-3ok-tzZ7Kw

[bronze plume]

1 down

[valid zealot]

How are they already have 5/4/3 essence while having resource to raise everything else.

Sadge

[rugged kiln]

Is stanza better than her sig? damage wise

[mystic halo]

ok now do the maths on the time loss and dpsp

there is a reason not even completely maxed speedrunner who malded 10 hrs/day used this

also I have worked out charge rate threshold for physical team

[bronze plume]

money

[drifting quest]

[valid zealot]

Make sense.

[bronze plume]

my laev essence is 4/5/3 and my ardelia is 3/4/3

i forgot what i got my dollies healing to in cbt2

[valid zealot]

I'm coping with 2/0/2

Sadge

[bronze plume]

i think it was just shy of 800

[valid zealot]

Not even lv90 yet.

[bronze plume]

yeah both my ardelia and laev and their weapons are lvl 90

[mystic halo]

but yeah so phys team gear

[bronze plume]

bp gives a lot

[mystic halo]

needs to change

AGAIN

[rugged kiln]

are you running her sig instead of stanza?

for ardelia

[mystic halo]

aethertech da pan is back in

[bronze plume]

why would i be using stanza

[mystic halo]

no sp to activate

different multiplicative zones

[rugged kiln]

for the juicy attack buff

[bronze plume]

gang her sig gives a arts dmg taken

dont hit me with the mathematically the atk buff is technicaly 0.5% better

cuz if it is

logically igaf

[mystic halo]

enemy dmg taken is easier to dilute

or fill in with another weapon's effect

[bronze plume]

thats so cool

so cool that

idc

[drifting quest]

Stanza needs pots and essence to scale higher

Even consider dilutions

Last I heard at least

[mystic halo]

oh dude this is fucked up

pog might be best off using

no set at all

[drifting quest]

[bronze plume]

how does that

even make sense

[drifting quest]

Same logic as redeemer seal builds

[rugged kiln]

I'm only asking since that electric trim was using stanza so i was just curious

[drifting quest]

Stacking one stat beats set bonus

[mystic halo]

he doesnt care for frontier

it's not good on him

[valid zealot]

Does game have seal but for intensity

[bronze plume]

bros using the rainbow set

[mystic halo]

and now with a charge rate threshold we need to hit to ult once per rotation

[rare rover]

imma cry again 3 2/3s but not the 3/3 laev essense

[mystic halo]

Im not sure if fire set intensitymaxxing is the best

god damn it dude

[valid zealot]

Heard you don't touch seal until artifacinggaming.

[bronze plume]

this gives me my set for my electric team ez

[mystic halo]

ok so

bonecrusher chest

xiranite gloves

[sly nymph]

who gets 90 first

[mystic halo]

2x intensity aethertech kit

might actually be it

dear god

let me do the maths

[dry kindle]

kill me

[mystic halo]

WAIT

NO

FORTMAKER IS OPTIMAL

holy shit

hold up

[valid zealot]

[mystic halo]

how did I not see this before?

[bronze plume]

opal you sound like youre on drugs

is this what happens to the theorycrafters

[valid zealot]

Hol up let him cook.

[bronze plume]

the numbers mason what do they mean

[mystic halo]

you dont understand

the developments on this

have been incredible

in the past 3 days

[bronze plume]

thats true

im just here with my ardelia

[mystic halo]

yeah no

p5 fortmaker is bis

[bronze plume]

oh hell nah

[rare rover]

im lost what are we talking about now

[drifting quest]

No theorycrafter is neurotypical

[bronze plume]

pogranichnik optimal build

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

i dont even know what that word means

[dry kindle]

tf even is dpsp

[bronze plume]

damage per skill point

clearly

[rare rover]

it means a neuro thats typical

[dry kindle]

im good

[valid zealot]

Ginseng soup p crazy

How is it that much impact

for just 180 atk.

[mystic halo]

yeah no we're going back to fire set

[rare rover]

[mystic halo]

IT WAS A NOTHINGBURGER

NOTHING EVER HAPPENS

[valid zealot]

icant

[mystic halo]

except that we should use p5 fortmaker

[bronze plume]

FUCK

[mystic halo]

buy your fortmakers from the shop

[bronze plume]

wait nvm

[steep pumice]

Hi, what pieces are the best on Ardelia rn?

[valid zealot]

You came at the right time.

[rare rover]

eternal xiranite but if someone else is using it then i reccomend lynx

[steep pumice]

Thank you!

[bronze plume]

alternativly you can do a armour piece thats int str, arts intensity

if you want arts intensity

[rare rover]

just note eternal xirinite cannot stack

[bronze plume]

i run triple xiranite cuz hurr hurr ult spam

[rare rover]

[valid zealot]

Oh corrosion reduces res.

Don't mind me I just learnt.

PES_Exit

[bronze plume]

thats true

[storm oar]

Is it even worth finding a perfect essence for Akekuri if shes doing like none of the damage in the team, Im missing the attack% line

[low vapor]

is someone able to tell me talent skill priority for ake in laev team?

[bronze plume]

you just need flow

[rare rover]

not rlly just focus on the skill and go for 3/3 on your main dps

[bronze plume]

ult and ult and then ult

oh and ult

[low vapor]

so just ult, nothin else matter?

[storm oar]

Yeah I got 3/3 on Laev and 3/3 on Ardelia, so Wulfgard and Akekuri can be just the bottom line?

[bronze plume]

correct

[low vapor]

ty ty

[rare rover]

2 3/3s

[bronze plume]

yuh

[rare rover]

i wana cry now

[drifting quest]

Bonekrusha poncho for ardelia

Same ult gain but gives will over int

[bronze plume]

i got laev, ard and wulf on 3/3 and ake is on 2/3

i didnt upgrade this at all tho so im bing chilling with this 2/3

[rare rover]

[rugged kiln]

Which mastery on wulf?

[rare rover]

PLEASE IM BEEN TRYING FOR ONE 3/3 FOR DAYS

[drifting quest]

None

[storm oar]

Wulf is just an ult bot isnt he

like 0 investment

[bronze plume]

i also accidentally dismantled wulfs 3/3 but 2 runs later got it again

[mystic halo]

also PSA

swordmancer is currently bugged

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

just slap ult regen gear on him and hes good

[mystic halo]

and to trigger it individually on multiple users of it on the same team

[storm oar]

ya i got 82%

[mystic halo]

you must MANUALLY SWITCH TO THE CHARACTER before activating it

[sly nymph]

oh hell naur

[rugged kiln]

wait really? there goes my ember dps build...

[storm oar]

on the bright side you got a lot of etch materials

Either way you're gonna need these

[rare rover]

with nothing to etccch

[storm oar]

Im curious what the dmg distribution is on Laev team

is it like 99% laev 1% teammates

[bronze plume]

yuh

maybe 98%

[rare rover]

correction 99.9999999999999%

[storm oar]

I wish I knew that before I level 80d wulfs weapon

[rare rover]

the moment my laev dies my dmg becomes so pitiful

[sly nymph]

what abt phys team

[rare rover]

a 5 second moment becomes a 40 second one

[bronze plume]

i mean you can make wulf a sub dps

hes just better for ult spam

[twilit quail]

this was patched in the hotfix

[storm oar]

do you just bring them to 80 and never to 90

[rugged kiln]

i'm still going to max out wulfgard

[dry kindle]

[mystic halo]

oh thank god

phew

[bronze plume]

my weps are 90 90 60/80 60/80 for laev

you DO NOT need to 90 ardelias weapon

[rugged kiln]

staggermaxx ember is so back

[storm oar]

i think ardelia weapon is 60/80 for me rn

[drifting quest]

My ardelia weapon is level 1

[twilit quail]

Im tired of updating physical man

[storm oar]

its kinda lame that this team takes 0 investment

[drifting quest]

Where it will stay

[storm oar]

like I dont really like that

[twilit quail]

this team

can we just get a 6* dps already

[storm oar]

is that a laev exclusive

[bronze plume]

u suk

[twilit quail]

so it stops being cringe

[drifting quest]

Tangtang stocks

All in

[valid zealot]

Oh wow I successfully trimmed off 1 second.

[dry kindle]

p5 endmin saves it next patch trust

[storm oar]

Or do all teams rn pretty much involve 3 buff supports that dont do dmg or need investment

[valid zealot]

icant

[rugged kiln]

Which element is tangtang going to be

[twilit quail]

physical has 3 units that share like

90% of the dmg between them

[outer ermine]

[twilit quail]

in varying degrees

[storm oar]

Okay see I like that much more

[twilit quail]

pog is a debuff & sp slave who doesnt really do anything in personal dmg

[drifting quest]

Drip markets would be due soon if they follow hoyo/wuwa trend of ~1mo early
A week or two

[storm oar]

endfield patches are 2 weeks long than hoyo patches right

[twilit quail]

the downside of physical is that you need to highly raise every single unit

[frozen tide]

Do we have any clue what next 3 banner rotation chars gonna look like

[twilit quail]

not even pog can be low investment because he needs mastery

[frozen tide]

Esp dmg type and role

[drifting quest]

We know the next 6

[rugged kiln]

seems like it's better to invest in endmin than panda? because of future pots

[storm oar]

They sent a picture of the silouhettes

[drifting quest]

Just not the order

Good guesses at elements

[frozen tide]

I meant moreso in kit

[dry kindle]

oh yeah iana tf dpsp mean

[storm oar]

no kit and even if we did we couldnt discuss it cause its against tos

[frozen tide]

Ic

[storm oar]

to discuss leaks

[twilit quail]

well it's damage per sp

it's pretty simple no?

uhhh

I guess there is the level where

[drifting quest]

Likely:
1.1
Tangtang physical dps
Mi fu electric with combustion
Fangyi electric maybe with corrosion

1.2
Rossi fire vanguard
Lycia fire subdps
Male sankta ???

[twilit quail]

if you are getting too much sp

your dpsp actually goes down significantly

[dry kindle]

[storm oar]

Also isnt Hypergrpyh like super good at shutting down leaks

[dry kindle]

i do not think i will math that thank you

[drifting quest]

None of that is via leaks, just currently known information + predictions based on what we are missing

[storm oar]

pretty sure Arknights is like locked up real tight

[twilit quail]

I mean DPS is kind of shaky as a metric(though still useful)

[rugged kiln]

it is

[drifting quest]

Ak gets leaks pretty regularly

Most people just dont see them

[twilit quail]

and we need to quantify things somehow

[sly nymph]

lycia wasn't in the silhouettes it was the feixiao lookalike in the trailer

[dry kindle]

how tf do you even math that

[sly nymph]

already fake and gay

[twilit quail]

AK leak comes from metro more often than anything else

[drifting quest]

I thought so but I get lied to on repeat

[storm oar]

Fangyi better be maindps or im gonna crash out

[drifting quest]

Other 4 are valid

[drifting quest]

Based on story she'd be the off field subdps and mifu is the onfield maindps

[bronze plume]

fangyi mi fu and tangtang all being maindps would be so ass

[twilit quail]

the prerequisite for it is that you have a complete cycle where all characters get to use their ult consistently, even if they have to gain the energy over two cycles

so to actually make use of dpsp at all

you need to work out charge thresholds

and lay out a very precise timeline

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

gang if its only 3 6 stars no 5 or 4s for the next 2 patches

[frozen tide]

Is vanguard main field dps?

[twilit quail]

but it is the best we have

[storm oar]

This game is so cooked if they start releasing characters that synergize/need eachother in the same patch

[bronze plume]

we starting off cooked

[rugged kiln]

electric combustion would go hard ngl

[drifting quest]

Yvonne gilberta:

[rugged kiln]

we already have that with gilberta and yvonne

[dry kindle]

i just wanna call slab shit man

[frozen tide]

Yvonne gilberta

[storm oar]

man and i heard the average pull rate for a patch is gonna be like 70 pulls

[bronze plume]

guys i think we have that with yvonne and gilberta

[drifting quest]

1.0 is 250

1.1+ we have no idea

[storm oar]

well yeah but launch patches are always insane printers

[bronze plume]

yeah we cant judge shit on the honey moon perid

[storm oar]

and even 120 in a patch is not enough if they release characters that synergize with eachother or need eachother

[rugged kiln]

we did get more than wuwa on launch

[twilit quail]

the current development on this is xiranite chest hands + kit that looks like bionic arm

[bronze plume]

chat are we hsr?

[drifting quest]

The hope is that its not 3 per patch but the stream implied its 3 per patch

[twilit quail]

then last slot intensity

[storm oar]

3 per patch is more than arknights does, thatd be insane

[bronze plume]

hopefully if it is 3 per patch its only the first 1 or 2 patches

[sly nymph]

why does pog need intensity lol

[rugged kiln]

i lowkey want to see 3 per patch just to see people mald

[twilit quail]

and then with full artificing and fortmaker we can switch out the kit piece for another intensity

[storm oar]

it would be justified mald

[twilit quail]

i dont know if it is better than thermite/sig

[sly nymph]

i'm not reading anything

[bronze plume]

also lycia if she comes out being a fire sub dps that replaces wulfgard while rossi comes out replacing akekuri would be so funny

[drifting quest]

Its not lycia

I just got gaslit

(I knew I was right to begin with)

[storm oar]

I hope rossi is a 6*

[rugged kiln]

it would be fine if they give out enough pulls to justify it but we will just have to see

[bronze plume]

lycia will probably be keep away for a while

[sly nymph]

the dude will be 5star dw

[bronze plume]

who tf is the guy fdrom cbt1

[drifting quest]

Lycia is gonna be npc jailed just like talulah

[bronze plume]

.fjall

[tranquil burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086661220040774/1433858574190248148/image.png?ex=6906385b&is=6904e6db&hm=bdae0ff3d263f065cad7a2794b9588c91abed98f886a50b0caa00f551d5c6fd9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=593&height=593

[twilit quail]

fully raised fortmaker should be able to hit the threshold

[storm oar]

3 limiteds a patch that synergize with each other, itd have to be 200 pulls a patch to be somewhat justifiable

[rare rover]

90/10 rossia is a 6 star ngl , she fits way too many 6 star conditions

[bronze plume]

where tf is fjall

[rugged kiln]

yeah i agree with that number

[twilit quail]

so we can have 60 charge

and nearly 200 intensity

[drifting quest]

Ferdinand with a bad dye job

[bronze plume]

first of shes female so that makes her more likely to be 6 star

[twilit quail]

which gives us I think just above 50% breach vuln

while keeping the cycling intact

[rugged kiln]

isn't talulah playable on CN already or no?

[dry kindle]

[twilit quail]

I will probably update the document later with this, but I fear the explanation may be too much

[sly nymph]

does intensity on pog increase the breach dmg taken

[dry kindle]

yes

[sly nymph]

what da hell

[dry kindle]

its like

45% vuln

[twilit quail]

with this set

[storm oar]

Do we even have a fuctional electro team rn

[bronze plume]

arts intensity increases all

[twilit quail]

we are getting more than 50%

I think

[bronze plume]

yes

[dry kindle]

wheres the 1000 essay on why yvonne and slab are shit

[twilit quail]

or just below

[storm oar]

is it mdps Avywenna

[bronze plume]

yes

[dry kindle]

should be like 48

[twilit quail]

Ive said enough about yvonne

[storm oar]

Perlica and who

[sly nymph]

i griefed it then

[storm oar]

arclight?

[twilit quail]

yeah so the problem is if it's better than sig/thermite

[bronze plume]

avy, perlica, arclight, flex

[rugged kiln]

https://youtu.be/-3ok-tzZ7Kw

[twilit quail]

I'm not 100% sure on that

[dry kindle]

ULT CHARGE POG 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[twilit quail]

but the fact that this is doable at all

[bronze plume]

flex being ardelia, antal or gilberta

[dry kindle]

doubt

[twilit quail]

is genuinely really good

[storm oar]

so Fangyi would either replace Avy as mdps or Perlica/Arclight as supp

[valid zealot]

Please say it's better than sig so I feel even worse about myself.

[bronze plume]

depending on her playstyle yuh

[dry kindle]

oh fuck me dpsp means i need to actually track statuses

[twilit quail]

I dont fucking know

[dry kindle]

waah

[twilit quail]

if it's better

it's GOOD

[valid zealot]

Sadge

[dry kindle]

i dont wannaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[twilit quail]

but is it better than sig with two pieces of charge

[bronze plume]

gang wtf is dpsp

[twilit quail]

....I DONT FUCKING KNOW

[valid zealot]

Oh trimmed fist-ing done.

[twilit quail]

but

[drifting quest]

Dont worry someone will cook a new pog build next week that runs an entirely different weapon

[twilit quail]

at least now I can very comfortably replace the eyesore frontier set

[drifting quest]

Damage per (100) skill point(s)

[twilit quail]

fk that shit

[rugged kiln]

which weapon?

[bronze plume]

oh i was right W

[valid zealot]

In 3 days after getting pog I came across 6 diff builds.

PotatoBrain

[dry kindle]

fuck me i dont wanna timeline

[lost heart]

Btw is there anything you guys don't like about the gameplay right now? Or does it seem enjoyable over all

[twilit quail]

what we have established already

[bronze plume]

yeah i cant slot in 4 ardelia

[twilit quail]

is that yinglung is dogshit

and that aethertech is dogshit

[storm oar]

Do we know if there's gonna be an update every 2 1/2 weeks for the characters or if we're sitting with this content + any event that comes out for nearly 8 weeks

[bronze plume]

why cant i slot in 4 ardelia in my team and have the soundtrack be starset

[rugged kiln]

what about aethertech?

[valid zealot]

is dogshit

He just said.

[twilit quail]

currently the contention is between:
fortmaker with random pieces to get intensity
sig/thermite with random pieces to hit charge threshold
3x fire set with whatever

[valid zealot]

His dmg is tiny pp anyways.

What the threshold

[twilit quail]

52.6

[bronze plume]

this is not the hellagur i know

ya know

[valid zealot]

Thonk

[bronze plume]

at least hes getting like looked at

[twilit quail]

fortmaker can provide I think

[bronze plume]

in ak nobody gaf

[twilit quail]

35%?

anyone with lv90 fortmaker

lmk

[bronze plume]

fire set as in hot works?

[twilit quail]

yes

[bronze plume]

bruh

[twilit quail]

we use it for +intensity bonus

[bronze plume]

gang wtf is pogs kit

[rugged kiln]

at least he'll have more longevity as a vanguard?

[bronze plume]

for his bis to be hot works

[wintry hazel]

Yo

[twilit quail]

one of the contenders for bis, at least

[bronze plume]

is it weird ahh optimizations or weird ahh gear options

[wintry hazel]

Did anyone get trim badge on marble and other boss beside rhodagn

With lightning team yet

[valid zealot]

He just want the +30 intensity.

[twilit quail]

ooh

that... hm

[wintry hazel]

Does anyone know?

[bronze plume]

so hes just intensity maxxing

[valid zealot]

He is intensity maxxing.

[bronze plume]

wait is he still used with dapan?

[valid zealot]

Yeah.

[bronze plume]

is dapan the sameshit?

[valid zealot]

Breach is crazy.

Sameshit as in?

[bronze plume]

yeah its a great starset song i know

[wintry hazel]

?

[bronze plume]

hot works 3pc intensity maxxing

[valid zealot]

batbrain

[bronze plume]

how does the phys team actually work with both pog and dapan wanting the stacks to do dmg

[lost heart]

Thet was a video posted a little earlier I think

[bronze plume]

do you like alternate between what one does it based on if you need sp or not

[summer flicker]

holy stanza

[valid zealot]

Pog regen a tons of sp.

All good.

[bronze plume]

so you just dont do it with dapan?

[valid zealot]

You can do 4 invul breach into 4 invul crush.

Fairly quickly.

[lost heart]

I need to buy it just because it is called stanza

[rugged kiln]

Is stanza worth?

[valid zealot]

Especially with Jifeng for burst cuz he gives 2 invul with ult.

[bronze plume]

oh so you get 4 stacks pog hit
get 4 stacks dapan hit?

[valid zealot]

Yeah.

[charred wigeon]

which ones should I level up first? and does upgrading basic attacks increase ultimate's basic attacks?

[summer flicker]

yep

[bronze plume]

got it

fuck you #team-build people

[dry kindle]

fuck you too

[bronze plume]

arguing over me saying you shouldnt use dapan with pog

[valid zealot]

Wokege

Oh boy.

[bronze plume]

bet?

[valid zealot]

Gay sex?

[bronze plume]

id need to ask my wife if this counts as cheating

[lost heart]

The end

[summer flicker]

4 more to go

[valid zealot]

I really shouldn't have said that.

[bronze plume]

shoulda said say gex

[valid zealot]

Yep now's the mods knocking my door.

I;m cooked.

[strong warren]

ok all 3 bosses trimmed foodless with p0 laev

[bronze plume]

upgrading ultimate increases ultimate basic attacks it says it in the skill

[lost heart]

Tell them to give us more pulls

[valid zealot]

RainbowPandaLao

[charred wigeon]

no but I mean does upgrading basic attacks increase the ultimate's damage too or those basic attacks are different

[bronze plume]

they are different

look different

[twilit quail]

you can fit this yes

but you need the goat lifeng

[bronze plume]

in ult = enhanced basic attacks

[valid zealot]

Ginseng soup buffs base atk?

[bronze plume]

not in ult = basic attacks

[valid zealot]

Why it pumping to 4k4.

[charred wigeon]

ok ty

[bronze plume]

this does mean that in ult they still get buffed from basic attack buffing things

cuz they are still basic attacks

[charred wigeon]

so best order would be ult > skill > combo > basic attack? for talent upgrades

[bronze plume]

id say combo = basic

probably

[dry kindle]

because the formula is dumb

[grim nacelle]

isnt this one way better than ardelias signatur weapon?

[bronze plume]

her basic attacks finisher hits for alot

[drifting quest]

Ardelia cannot activate it

[valid zealot]

Yeah I figured.
It goes into atk bonus of basic total.

Not base atk.

[charred wigeon]

yeah thats true but not so sure if you get to use it that much

[valid zealot]

Dum dum.

[bronze plume]

ardelia doesnt trigger it

her skill isnt technically healing

[grim nacelle]

the sheeps arent counted as skill treatment? thats ruff

[bronze plume]

its the dollies you have to pick up

[drifting quest]

Its on her talent

[bronze plume]

no the dollies arent her skill

[drifting quest]

Hence not a skill

[bronze plume]

they are a talent

[grim nacelle]

kk ty

[bronze plume]

you just unlock it at elite 0

does gilberta heal

and if so

is it enuf if i have at least some skill i can be like

yeah i dont need my 800 heals per dolly ardelia

to live

[valid zealot]

It's also on talent/

icant

[bronze plume]

idc if its a talent

[grim nacelle]

have gotten her from every banner. only got laevatain with her guarantee

[bronze plume]

i wanna know if its actually good healing

[bronze plume]

FUCK YOU

[valid zealot]

Oh well

[grim nacelle]

crazy that the devs are actively avoiding making a support character heal.

[valid zealot]

Eyjafafalalila.

[grim nacelle]

why?

[lime bear]

man we're still gonna live with 60/m Xiranite and 90/m Ferrium in Wuling for the next month

[bronze plume]

gang read my name

[lime bear]

Eyjafyalla

[bronze plume]

its fine

[valid zealot]

They don't have a dedicated healer class.

[lost heart]

What about xaihi 🙏

[valid zealot]

So they avoid 1 weap everything ig.

Xaihi heal is skill.

[twilit quail]

healer class is defender smile

[bronze plume]

actually

how many supports use arts units

[lime bear]

all

[bronze plume]

crazy

[grim nacelle]

thats not a playable character just someone wage slaving on my dijiang

[dry kindle]

when tf

[valid zealot]

I kinda forgot they existed lowkey.

[grim nacelle]

i didnt even want her ;-;

[valid zealot]

icant

[lime bear]

I still need to produce some Liquid Xiranite

prob gonna stop it at like 1K

[ocean saffron]

based

[twilit quail]

dude this feature is actually so fucking funny on some videos hang on

[lime bear]

I stopped my Xiranite Gear at 5K

[bronze plume]

yeah liquid you only need like 100 of

[wintry hazel]

Not rhodagn btw

[dry kindle]

[wintry hazel]

I'm asking marble or the sword boss

Rhodagn is easy

[lost heart]

They didn't do sword in the video?

[bronze plume]

with the right setup you can have gear going and be making enuf batteries to both power and provide for stock bills

[ocean saffron]

i made 15k on accident woops

[lost heart]

I thought someone mentioned it happening

[wintry hazel]

The sword boss

[lost heart]

Idk tho

[valid zealot]

There's one with the humanoid

[twilit quail]

【可以处决客人的便利店员工-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/HgMRzWm

use the english on this video

[drifting quest]

Just remember to run components at half efficiency or only run it for short bursts

[wintry hazel]

Yh did they get trim with lightning team tho

[twilit quail]

HAHAHAHA

[lime bear]

then just run 12/m LC Wuling and 6/m ish Yazhen til next month

[twilit quail]

it's so good

[lime bear]

man I need Mark of Perseverance, damned BP lvl 50 timegate smh

[valid zealot]

https://youtu.be/-3ok-tzZ7Kw

[bronze plume]

bro is laevs finisher multiplier at m3 fucking 900%

[wintry hazel]

Ty

[lime bear]

see the wiki

[rugged kiln]

It’s kinda mid

[drifting quest]

Hit 2 enemies to heal

Clueless

[rugged kiln]

Will get powercrept soon to 1200% by next patch dw

[neon cave]

im running pog/dapan/chen/ember

is it generally better to consume the 4 vulnerability stacks using dapan's combo skill, pog's battle skill or switch between the two? particularly during boss fights

[lime bear]

M3 still next week but doubt next week bp f2p can get up to lvl 50

Im only at M1 rn smh

well I can prefarm ig

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

where tf

is monika

[ocean saffron]

I'm lvl 50 but I did buy the BP 🤷‍♂️

[grim nacelle]

@bronze plume equip should i run on ardelia?

[rugged kiln]

You save a lot of sanity from buying the material boxes from stock redistribution

[bronze plume]

with the laev team rotation

[dry kindle]

dies

[drifting quest]

Bonekrusha poncho for will

[ocean saffron]

it doesnt help that much im still out of everything xd

[drifting quest]

Or i think xiranite works too

Just 4 xiranite

[lime bear]

true indeed, I already cleared the protohedron ones tho

[bronze plume]

it depends if you want will, int or arts intensity instead of ult

[twilit quail]

i like 4 xiranite

[bronze plume]

i do will cuz im putting dolly to work

[ocean saffron]

im gonna start my 2nd team now though... gotta decide between laev and lightning because no LR or lifeng

[lime bear]

is there calcs on can we empty the 400K and 800K valley engraving tix, how much we get everyday anyway excluding elastic goods

[rugged kiln]

Lmao the gigachad level 90 ember

[valid zealot]

Is marble or doritos trim worse.

[lime bear]

I only started buying the engraving tix like 3 days ago

[twilit quail]

you can easily buy out all tickets per week in both v4 and wulinf

[valid zealot]

I buy money.

I'm homeless.

[ocean saffron]

idk what max income is but i make like 5m a day

if that helps ur calcs

thats without stocks

[rugged kiln]

Do you use sundered prince on ember?

[twilit quail]

but you cant use them all with the stam you get anyway so lmao

[ocean saffron]

yea

[rugged kiln]

How’s the damage

[lime bear]

aight but Ill miss this week some tix cuz I only started optimizing my Wuling like last Wednesday and my max Valley. should be easy clear next week

[twilit quail]

no point buying all

[bronze plume]

chat i think

[ocean saffron]

her finishers do like 50k but shes m9 +1 ess no artifice

[bronze plume]

its time