theorycrafting

[wintry hazel]

U run support on Perl?

[icy ginkgo]

ye

[strong warren]

is it possible to get natural +2 or +3 line 3 rolls from essence

[wintry hazel]

Gilb? Or antal

[icy ginkgo]

antal

[gritty olive]

is someone willing to test laev damage numbers

[icy ginkgo]

i could swap this out for oblivion

[gritty olive]

[wintry hazel]

Not gonna do better

[icy ginkgo]

for that juicy 80k ult

[wintry hazel]

Only 80k yeah

But I feel like ww buffs is better

For more avy dmg

Cus I only do 27-34k dmg each spear

[icy ginkgo]

if only avywenna can actually consume electric stacks like her class is intended to do

[wintry hazel]

I run oblivion

[icy ginkgo]

where is this in her kit

[steel apex]

What's the better set on endmin? Bonekrusha or swordmancer?

[icy ginkgo]

this is the only arts effect she takes advantage of, in which she can already apply herself

[dry kindle]

Don't question it

[fathom spear]

swordmancer

[dry kindle]

Bone

Sword is lazy setup

[fathom spear]

bone higher dmg but no support

[sterile herald]

what’s the order priority for late game upgrades? has anyone done any real calculations for gear sets yet?

[steel apex]

My team is endmin, chen, ardelia, akekuri

[dry kindle]

Akekuri or antal comp

Screw it antal

[torn raft]

does laevatain's battle skill just flat out buff the ultimate basic attack damage or does it give a bonus using it after sequence 2?

[broken shale]

I have a question who's better in term of damage last rite or yvonne? I have both and I'm not sure where to invest first

[steel apex]

I can reach max bonekrusha stack at 16 seconds but that means I can't pop skill at all during that 16 second

[gritty olive]

i believe the BATK refers to the sequence of spins she does during the enhanced skill

[steel apex]

I guess it would drive me to focus on chen battle skill

[gritty olive]

and that shouldnt count as dmg% bonus

[torn raft]

oh okay that makes sense

ty ty

[strong warren]

sources of crowns?

[steel apex]

What does damage to broken mean?

[strong warren]

i'm like 10 seconds off trim on tentacles boss

[broken shale]

Staggered

[sterile herald]

freemium bp, red shop

[fathom spear]

swordmancer gives this and bonekrusha is not 100% uptime

[dry kindle]

Second attack

En wording go brrr

[strong warren]

no 1 time sources?

[sterile herald]

i got like two from the story or something but i don’t think so

[icy ginkgo]

yvonne has got to be the most boring char ever 😭

[strong warren]

idt i can get lvl 50 bp until nex twk

[fathom spear]

kinda true

[icy ginkgo]

in gameplay at least

[sterile herald]

they say they come from
events
the shop
battle pass

that’s all it says

so idk

[steel apex]

Does that attack get affected by damage boost effects?

[broken shale]

Every ranged character tbh

[fathom spear]

i only care about the stagger lmao

[sterile herald]

i have it fully finished and i’ve done all dailies since day 1 im almost level 46

[strong warren]

yeah about the same

[broken shale]

!?

[strong warren]

bought the 10 dollar one as well

[sterile herald]

although you get 2060 xp a day or 2120 if u have the paid one

yeah

[steel apex]

Ah screw it

[broken shale]

Isn't that a bit too low?

[steel apex]

Swordmancer

[vagrant sparrow]

hello guys

[sterile herald]

what’s up

low?

[strong warren]

i bought it like 30 levels in though so it is what it is

68 rn

48*

[steel apex]

I'm still gonna be popping bs every 15-16 seconds anyways

[gritty olive]

is there anyone willing to test rotation damage

[sterile herald]

makes sense

[gritty olive]

[broken shale]

Battlepass lvl

[steel apex]

They both constrict that rotation

[broken shale]

I thought it would bd a bit faster but nah

[vagrant sparrow]

monika im bored if a noob like me can help let me know

[sterile herald]

46 is low? i literally don’t have anything else to clear

all my quests are maxed

finished

[vagrant sparrow]

what u need from me

[gritty olive]

i have some raw damage numbers

[sterile herald]

done all dailies ever

[gritty olive]

do you have laev

[vagrant sparrow]

yea

[gritty olive]

with forgeborn scathe?

[gritty olive]

perfect

i have a very long set of instructions but it should be pretty easy

[icy ginkgo]

lock in the jincao drink grind

[vagrant sparrow]

sure

[gritty olive]

@vagrant sparrow farm 300 energy for her first

[torn raft]

ty, yeah some of the en translations are rough to understand. this made me think ardelia didnt have susceptibility without p1 lol

[vagrant sparrow]

how do i do that im very noob

[sterile herald]

a couple enhanced skills

get her ult availible

[icy ginkgo]

honestly pretty damn good potential cause its +8%

[dry kindle]

I'm having fun

[torn raft]

yeah poe 2 has taught me multipliers goes brrrrrr

[gritty olive]

requirements:

1. surtr does not have enhanced gear(armor kit gloves)
2. allies dont have any buffing gear or weapon(can remove their gear)
3. damage done against a valley iv enemy(wuling has a small base atk buff), that ideally survives a small full rotation(try against rhodgan)

if your surtr has an essenced weapon we can sync your weapon to match with the sim ones so like the video recording should include potential -> weapon level -> attributes screen -> fighting rhodgan -> send to me

the rotation goes like this: ake skill -> wulf combo -> ake skill -> surtr fivenormals -> eyja combo -> surtr combo ult enhancedskill fivenormals

[icy ginkgo]

keep in mind that m1 to m3 is only 4% increase to susceptibility

[gritty olive]

fight some goons

[vagrant sparrow]

alright

[strong warren]

does this game have level difference damage penalty

[gritty olive]

no

[icy ginkgo]

are the 10 crowns in gold cert shop worth

[gritty olive]

def multiplier seems to be static depending on what the enemy has

[strong warren]

ok nice

[gritty olive]

its not like HSR with a def multiplier that scales with enemy and ally levels

[torn raft]

ye

[gritty olive]

@vagrant sparrow what i mean by sync is im gonna attempt to match my sim stats with yours

[icy ginkgo]

where did you get the other 13

[gritty olive]

bp

[icy ginkgo]

tier 3?

[torn raft]

yeah

[icy ginkgo]

50 of those blue things is crazy

[torn raft]

skills are expensive lmao

[sterile herald]

damn maybe i should’ve bought the bp

mine still 0101

[icy ginkgo]

isnt m3ing basic atk a waste 💀

[sterile herald]

what are you using 80% of the time

[icy ginkgo]

tbf surtr has heat dmg on basics

[sterile herald]

i’m saying

[torn raft]

am I crazy to assume that it stacked with ultimate

[sterile herald]

yeah

[torn raft]

thats why i went for those two lmao

[sterile herald]

i’m pretty sure the ult has is own

but idrk tbh

[torn raft]

but not like im in ult mode all the time

[sterile herald]

didn’t look hard enough

exactly

[icy ginkgo]

i guess its different for avy

90% of the dmg comes from spears

[dry kindle]

Def rn is just fuck you 0.5x

Elemental resists are enemy specific

[gritty olive]

theres someone who sent a link that the def multiplier is around 0.504x

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nxfZAGx3IZamJw7JY_2yb6RnJyWkrVQTdKYwIWyDL3Q/edit?usp=sharing

for now ill still stick to 50%

[dry kindle]

Just say 0.5

[torn raft]

might as well double check, the standard set is best for surtr right

I was tempted to go invest in the basic attack accessories too

[vagrant sparrow]

alright so the only thing would be the essence, i can take it off if ya want

[dry kindle]

Ya

[vagrant sparrow]

its a bit upgraded

[torn raft]

really wanted to use crit but the stats suck lol

[gritty olive]

no need

as i said i can just adjust my stuff to account for yours

[vagrant sparrow]

okey

[gritty olive]

im already assuming maxxed essence on r1 weapon

are your gear unupgraded?

[vagrant sparrow]

yes

no upgrades

[gritty olive]

alright let me do some tinkering

[vagrant sparrow]

ok ill record

[deft heron]

Got a somewhat complex question. When artificing, the odds of success depend on the relative difference in the stat being upgraded between the sacrifice and the target. I.e. if you use something with 20 strength to artifice something with 15 strength, it's more likely to succeed than using something with 15 strength to artifice something with 20 strength. Thus after succeeding once, further artifice attempts are less likely to succeed because the gear now has a higher stat. Is it more resource efficient to keep trying with freshly crafted gear, or to artifice up a piece of gear to sacrifice?

[dry kindle]

Bleh

[dry kindle]

Just follow this and don't sacrifice artificed gear

[deft heron]

I have no idea what any of that says.

[rare nimbus]

is clannibal the BiS for Yvonne?

[dry kindle]

Fuck no

[rare nimbus]

which one then

[dry kindle]

Sig

[karmic perch]

Cant get her sig atm tho

I imagine wedge is her next best but i havent seen calcs for her

[dry kindle]

So you see

[rare nimbus]

this one?

[dry kindle]

Best gear for strength/agility/will/intellect fodder

[terse furnace]

It's kinda funny, seeing how people talk about Yvonne kinda reminds me of the people doomposting about Jing Yuan in HSR

[terse furnace]

Her Sig (When her banner comes out after Gilb), but some alternatives are Wedge or Navigator (BP) if you have them. I might run Navigator temporarily myself

the BP weapons are largely worthless for me cuz I plan to pull for both Gilb and Yvonne's signatures so might as well get some value ig

[gritty olive]

🤫 1000000 buffs to jingyuan

[terse furnace]

Jing Yuan is a firm reminder that waifu/husbando > meta is the best way to play gachas

[torn raft]

is gilberta in the yvonne comp?

still not sure if I wanna bother with her weapon

[terse furnace]

Yes

At present, Gilberta is a very important piece for the Yvonne comp

[rare nimbus]

i already got gilb and yvonne so i just been trying to find alt weapons for now, i wasnt thinking about the fact that their BiS isnt out yet cause their featured banner isnt even out lol. I do love yvonnes play style tho, I like it more than laevs

[terse furnace]

That might change with future releases though, so keep that in mind

[torn raft]

I just really hate that ult effect lol

yeah i can see that ult randomly becoming the best with a good enough striker

and I like the free ultimate efficiency she gives

[terse furnace]

I was complaining earlier that Gilb and Yvonne's weapon banners aren't here despite both being on the current banner. Feels like a huge oversight

[terse furnace]

She's also the best nature infliction in the game at present, so if a nature DPS comes out she's going to 100% be slotted with them

[karmic perch]

Yeah

[torn raft]

ah that's true, seeing a theme of main operators just cheating out arts reaction lol

[dry kindle]

That does not look right

[vagrant sparrow]

do you have bili bili link to this?

[terse furnace]

Btw, this isn't related to the Yvonne's viability or anything, but why is her ult so fast? 🥀

[dry kindle]

https://b23.tv/DUclwxc

[terse furnace]

I literally didn't even know she threw the guns into the air until I watched it slowmo

[vagrant sparrow]

xiexie

[uncut oracle]

is there any optimal gear build for laev? (45 lvl)

[terse furnace]

What is this for?

[dry kindle]

Laev slab vs tide

[vagrant sparrow]

https://streamable.com/0b3vd0

[warped oar]

whats the etch guide for laeva? twilight first?

[gritty olive]

thanks

also i dont know how to sync your int and wil stats so i just forced it

[vagrant sparrow]

should have just went without essence

[gritty olive]

you have way more will for some reason

[vagrant sparrow]

yea whats up with that i noticed it too

[gritty olive]

oh since my dmg numbers are assuming m3, ill adjust my scaling data temporarily to l9

[vagrant sparrow]

i think i noticed why

im using will gloves

💀

[thorn ibex]

which one do i max out for laev or should i farm more?

[olive crag]

what's the best food to start farming?

[uncut oracle]

any good gear for leav at lvl 45?

[thorn ibex]

like buff food?

[terse furnace]

wdym, isn't the first one literally perfect stats for her sig weapon?

[dry kindle]

[vagrant sparrow]

now with str gloves

[steel apex]

Can someone help me understand the scaling on last rite's combo skill

[vagrant sparrow]

for some reason i was using will gloves...

[dry kindle]

Laugh

[gritty olive]

[dry kindle]

Ginseng

[gritty olive]

ok wait

[thorn ibex]

oh nice it is

[steel apex]

It's specifically with the damage scaling based on cryo infliction

[vagrant sparrow]

want me to do it again now with STR gloves

[gritty olive]

eyah

@vagrant sparrow now it syncs

[vagrant sparrow]

okay

yayga

[dry kindle]

+x% per stack consumed

[vagrant sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326776327910719569/1456273972621742080/jump.gif

[steel apex]

The skill description says it gas bonus damage multiplier per infliction stack of 107% (it's level 1 atm)

[steel apex]

So it's the number x3 for base use?

[gritty olive]

you used the t1 gauntlet version 😭 🙏

[dry kindle]

71+107*3

[steel apex]

So like 107%x3 since you can only proc the combo skill with 3 cryo or higher

[thorn ibex]

so what do i farm now to to level it up?

[terse furnace]

Check how to etch

[steel apex]

Now should I go for 4 cryo or is 3 enough?

[vagrant sparrow]

told ya i was a noob

[thorn ibex]

wdym? like the guide ingame?

[dry kindle]

Just farm without vouchers if you only want fodder

[gritty olive]

@vagrant sparrow at least your gear is this?

[robust vault]

ardelia or antal for avywenna?

[vagrant sparrow]

ye

[thorn ibex]

should i spend on getting all my mastery level up first or maxing out etch first?

[gritty olive]

oh btw, can laevatain trigger the additional atk dmg under ult?

[dry kindle]

Why not

[dry kindle]

Just buy valley boxes

[thorn ibex]

ya she should be able to

[gritty olive]

so

i should just always assume tehres also extra 616% since i wouldnt be using laev skill without 4 magma anyways no?

[thorn ibex]

yep

[thorn ibex]

you mean these?

[vagrant sparrow]

bro this bastard rhogdan always phases during my n5

hopefully u can see the number

[olive crag]

is that found in wuling somewhere?

[gritty olive]

yeah sure

if the first numbers all lineup, its more or less onpoint

[dry kindle]

Ya

[vagrant sparrow]

oh ye

totally visible

[dry kindle]

Dies

[wintry hazel]

Do u spend energy on the essence without using engrave?

If u have the main 3 stat that is

[gritty olive]

👀

[dry kindle]

Wut

[wintry hazel]

I'm asking specifically only to farm essence for etching

[gritty olive]

is that ult n3?

[wintry hazel]

Do I need to use engrave permit

Or nah don't need to

[dry kindle]

No

[vagrant sparrow]

https://streamable.com/24p8bj

there u go monika

[dry kindle]

Aight how many hits does laev get in ult cycle

🗿

[wintry hazel]

So I just farm without using engrave to etch essence

Alr

[thorn ibex]

3n4

[gritty olive]

alright thanks

[dry kindle]

2 ebs?

[gritty olive]

ideally

her n4 string should take you 3.3s

[wintry hazel]

Do I get more dps increase if I lv char+weap lv more

Or etch essence

Which one gives more dps%

[gritty olive]

[thorn ibex]

wait until people finish sheeting first, for now just level both

[gritty olive]

it fucking syncs

[thorn ibex]

[gritty olive]

my scalings might be a little off

[dry kindle]

[thorn ibex]

are u guys assuming the same baseline?

[dry kindle]

3 n4 2eba

Slab loses

[gritty olive]

my simulations assume that i match their stats in my simmer

[dry kindle]

@fathom spear

[thorn ibex]

what piece is slab?

[dry kindle]

Lynx

[gritty olive]

[thorn ibex]

do you even have enough energy with slab?
how much energy refund are you assuming with bskill?

[bitter vale]

Guys, what do you think — will the developers add the ability to change nicknames?

[gritty olive]

what buff is this?

[dry kindle]

Burn pen

[gritty olive]

the first one is her magmastacks. is the second one her basic attack bonus?

[dry kindle]

Slab cant 2 cycle ult

All that matters

[gritty olive]

res pen
basic atk bonus
hotworks +50%

[dry kindle]

Oh shit I forgot set bonus

[gritty olive]

@vagrant sparrow thanks once again im going to go to school on a saturday so hopefully i can make use of your video

your other allies dont have anything conditional to buff laev correct?

[fathom spear]

wah

[thorn ibex]

ya fair
how is this one sheets?

[dry kindle]

[thorn ibex]

is it enough breakpoint to 1 cycle ult?

[dry kindle]

Idk but it 1 cycles ult

Yea

[fathom spear]

wat dis,

[thorn ibex]

ya just remove i bskill cycle and shorten rot length

[dry kindle]

Slab vs tide

3 n4 2ebs

[thorn ibex]

gear comparison between tide and lynx slab

[dry kindle]

Do I add ginseng

[stoic dragon]

so the first and second strikes of Laevatein's skill during ult are considered basic attacks?

[fathom spear]

i thought the big diff between them is tide fall give more energy for us to ult faster ?

[dry kindle]

All of them should be

[woeful drift]

is it important to be switching operators during battle or can you just stay on one operator the entire time?

[thorn ibex]

it's all na dmg but scale off ult level

[dry kindle]

Oh wait yeah

Third hit isnt pre sure

[dry kindle]

Yeah except it also does more damage

[thorn ibex]

usually u stay on 1 unit unless it's a 4*

[swift sparrow]

where do i look at the spreadsheet

[gritty olive]

OH SHIT

i forgot pyrometer has skill dmg bonus

skill dmg bonus affects both combos and battle skills correct?

[woeful drift]

do I stay on my "damage dealer" character then? as in the one with the highest attack?

and can I ignore leveling basic attack on supports (or even all 3 of the other ops)?

[gritty olive]

thats why i was getting less

[dry kindle]

It should specify

[stoic dragon]

pyrometer only battle skill

[dry kindle]

Fuckin hell

Ginseng is 15% damage up

Worlds first game where flat atk is good

[thorn ibex]

ginshen?

[thorn ibex]

i mean that's expected since the flat atk is added before multiplier

[gritty olive]

battle skill = normal skill correct

[stoic dragon]

yeaa

[gritty olive]

combo skill = conditiionals

skill damage buffs btoh

ok cool

gonna add more rows

[oblique gazelle]

In theory who is the strongest damage dealer in endfield?

[steel apex]

Better to forgo better heals for debuff on ardelia right?

[thorn ibex]

from what i've seen she should get 2-3 cskill per rot right?

[oblique gazelle]

And who is the best support

[thorn ibex]

we dont even have proper sheets done yet

it's been out for a week bro 🥀

[oblique gazelle]

Damn gotta wait like two more weeks then

Maybe three

[dry kindle]

P5 last rite

🗣️

[oblique gazelle]

Because I've rerolled for a second account

[thorn ibex]

[oblique gazelle]

And I got gilberta again

So I need to know who is best with her

[thorn ibex]

reroll to get 6 copy of any 6* in 1 10 pull surely

[dry kindle]

I don't see a 20s rhodagn kill for laev yet so

🗣️

[thorn ibex]

vro 🥀

[oblique gazelle]

I rerolled for fun

And now I have another gilberta account

So yeah gotta save now

[dry kindle]

Still better than yvonne

Like fuckin 35 or 40s

🔥

[oblique gazelle]

Is yvonne bad?

[torn raft]

I just hope to get a fix for the attack indicators

I cant see shit on surtr

[oblique gazelle]

I was planning on going for her

[dry kindle]

12s ult that can't be interrupted or you end up killing yourself from the damage loss

And also

Crits

[oblique gazelle]

I don't mind crit

[thorn ibex]

it's just doomposting
they are fine

[oblique gazelle]

Few

Always the doomposters

But how good Is Yvonne with gilberta

[dry kindle]

Usable

[dry kindle]

Worse than last rite so yk 💀

[sterile herald]

played yvonne in the quest the ult is kinda fun

[oblique gazelle]

I despise last rites gameplay

[sterile herald]

having to do anything other than shoot during it sucks tho

[thorn ibex]

my guy just let people play what they want 🥀

[sterile herald]

does ember shield give knockdown immunity or what

[thorn ibex]

there is no powercreep in version 1.0 lmao

[torn raft]

id say not having to look at the boss while it stands on a puddle is pretty good

[dry kindle]

Pipebomb

[real mist]

so uh any news if were having 3 chars every patch yet?

[oblique gazelle]

I like ranged characters so I guess Yvonne it is

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[real mist]

it'll be crazy if it's not a one time thing

[thorn ibex]

how much xiranite gear do i even farm for before swapping the module over for more creds lol

[dry kindle]

All of it

[thorn ibex]

...

[dry kindle]

Its 23k comps per character

[sterile herald]

im just making 50% gear 50% batteries i cba to change it until the gear is full

[dry kindle]

Assuming the game says fuck you

[oblique gazelle]

Next patch should be rossi with those two valley girls

[sterile herald]

is this real

💀

23k

holy shit

[dry kindle]

I mean

You need to hard pity every single upgrade

[sterile herald]

makes sense

[dry kindle]

Which probably won't happen

[sterile herald]

damn

[dry kindle]

probably

[fathom spear]

why am i trying to swap gears and the dmg is still diff 😭 is it dealing more dmg in a specific part

[dry kindle]

Total damage from a 3 n4 2 ebs cycle

[fathom spear]

u calculating in cycles ??

[tight haven]

its the best way to accurately represent damage efficiency

[torn raft]

if you really want to make gear id manually transfer batteries over

[sterile herald]

anyone figured out if slab vs tide vs redeemer is best for lae yet lol

[torn raft]

prob the easiest way to force more production

[dry kindle]

When someone timelines umbral with redeemer sure

[sterile herald]

yeah makes sense

[dry kindle]

Nah

[fathom spear]

so like faster rotation with tidefal right ?

[sterile herald]

guess i just gotta wait

[midnight stirrup]

Yo question

[dry kindle]

Don't forget outpost

[midnight stirrup]

Why does the guide not mention Catcher for physical teams, when he offers vuln stacks

Why is Ember ran over him

[sterile herald]

theres literally almost nothing left for me to do bruh

[thorn ibex]

i am yea

[dry kindle]

Yeah?

[torn raft]

but tbh I dont have enough wuling dollars to spare to even craft gear lol

im buying the weekly artificing stock

[fathom spear]

so tidefall do more dmg per hit is what u mean ? or do u mean in a whole rotation cause it's faster ?

[thorn ibex]

wait you aren't including the outofburst 2n4 2ebs?

[dry kindle]

Wut

[thorn ibex]

you need 2ebs before you get enough energy to ult again no?

[vagrant sparrow]

ok, nobody has any gear or weapons no

[dry kindle]

Too lazy to include off ult

[thorn ibex]

bro....

[dry kindle]

Fakyu

[thorn ibex]

nvm ill just sheet it myself

[dry kindle]

ATP slab wins because of 5 skills

🔥

[fathom spear]

sworceee

[midnight stirrup]

Anyone know

[dry kindle]

Male

[fathom spear]

wow

yeah i never see catcher XD

[dry kindle]

I mean more damage because heat set gear go brrr

[proud vector]

The ember physical team exists… because it’s the best team to play ember on LOL

[thorn ibex]

then yea that's the point of comparing gear
you are comparing the whole rotation not just dmg during ult bro 🥀

[fathom spear]

wait wah, arent both set up have heat gear

[midnight stirrup]

Jokes aside, whats the real reason

[dry kindle]

Slab has to use heat chest

[fathom spear]

yeah, but i have more total atk with slab

[dry kindle]

Go timeline an entire umbral for me okty

[thorn ibex]

[dry kindle]

Yeah but heat stick has 54% bskill damage

[fathom spear]

ah true, didnt account that

[midnight stirrup]

Sworce help

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-iJJ6E58EttmFqgLo96

[dry kindle]

If you had p5 sig

Slab would probably be better

But atp you have p5 laev and just play redeemer build

[fathom spear]

wait wt abnout the heat bonus from the armor ? is the heat% that bad

[dry kindle]

Its not worth that fucked ass statline

[thorn ibex]

yeaa the stat on that is not good

[fathom spear]

damn we cant invet shit then, we stick with what the tutorial gears gave us 💀

[midnight stirrup]

Mf just ignoring me

💀

[heavy fossil]

what is the best set for pure dps ember? Don't ask why

[thorn ibex]

you have to understand that catering to the main/sub attribute multiply your attack

[dry kindle]

Idk what catcher even does

💀

[fathom spear]

real

[midnight stirrup]

Then dont leave me hanging and tell me that smh LOL

Ill ask the mod guy when hes around

[fathom spear]

i really think no one uses him

[dry kindle]

I don't think opal knows either

💀

[midnight stirrup]

Who made the guide

[dry kindle]

Iana

[midnight stirrup]

oh

who

[thorn ibex]

there's a guide? 😭
or u mean the team sheet thingie

[midnight stirrup]

team sheet shit yeah

I dont get how ember is ran over catcher

[thorn ibex]

i mean just play whatever lol it's early sheets so it's never really that accurate anyways

[midnight stirrup]

in phys

yeah fair enough

[thorn ibex]

more vln stacks

[dry kindle]

I mean

[midnight stirrup]

catcher gives 4

[dry kindle]

Basically nothing changed since cbt2

[midnight stirrup]

ember gives 0

i think

[dry kindle]

X

[tight haven]

fuck im timegated

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[midnight stirrup]

huh

[tight haven]

[dry kindle]

[thorn ibex]

ember give 1 on bskill and 1 on cskill

[torn raft]

tomorrow is a good day

[thorn ibex]

plus shielding and heals

[midnight stirrup]

i was told catcher gives a quick 4

and heals too

[thorn ibex]

let me check

[dry kindle]

What

[midnight stirrup]

Twin

[dry kindle]

He has 1 bskill 1 ult

The fuck did 4 come from

[magic topaz]

hot works 3 set (gauntlets and battle skill bonus kits) with tide fall light armor offset for ultimate gain
or
tide fall light armor offset with eternal xiranite power cores and t1 glove for lae

[midnight stirrup]

#team-build message

[dry kindle]

Not whatever you cooked for the second one

[dry kindle]

15s rhodagn kill where

[stoic dragon]

i did it

[midnight stirrup]

i mean shit

anyway forget what i asked its not even my team

idk why i care this much

[thorn ibex]

he get 1 vuln from bskill and 1 in ult + weaken
you are not getting 4

[midnight stirrup]

btw

i got p2p1 pog

does that change team setup

or still yifeng panda cheng

wait

[sterile herald]

my situatiuon

[thorn ibex]

why is both weapon and character upgrade "potential"

[sterile herald]

how tf people doin these so fast

my shit was like 400s 💀

[tight haven]

epic arknights reference

[midnight stirrup]

nah fr

[thorn ibex]

PP6P5

[dry kindle]

Hit better

[sterile herald]

!?

[dry kindle]

Pipebomb

[sterile herald]

i feel like i dont even have that much downtime in my attacks tho

i guess my team isnt maxed yet nor do i have any good essences

[midnight stirrup]

Ph2P1

Based

[sterile herald]

but like damn

my chud unupgraded sets bro

[thorn ibex]

money diff

[sterile herald]

my chud 2/3 essences

my chud level 82 laevetain

laevatain?

idk

[thorn ibex]

sutr

[torn raft]

I thought she was called leviathan until i did the story lmao

[thorn ibex]

chonk

[swift tundra]

Anyone using Yvonne 1 rotation ult build with 3pc MI + Redeemer seal? How's the damage looking?

[sterile herald]

lae

[storm oar]

like in a wulfgard Akekuri Ardelia team with their sigs, is it worth grinding out essences for them, I already have Laevs essence

Or do you really only grind out essences for mdps and then shift focus to artificing

[torn raft]

You need essences anyways to upgrade

And valley 4 permits are easy

Unless u havent upgraded your essence yet

[storm oar]

this is where Im at rn

[torn raft]

You can gamble for a better essence and save up to 420 dust

Ah ok

Id farm their essence might as well and valley 4 permits are cheap

If it was wuling permits it would be another story

[storm oar]

What would be prio, idk if theres a way to see what a max essence would look like on them

[torn raft]

Personally im just using sanity for skills

Database and weapon files

U can check max

[dry kindle]

663

[thorn ibex]

should i just grab thermal cutter for ake?

[storm oar]

talking about the other 3, which essence is best to get first

[dry kindle]

Isnt everything else in that box horrible anyway

[torn raft]

I thought most were using antal and not ake

[storm oar]

You need Ake for SP atm

Antal isnt enough, esp for the story bosses

[dry kindle]

Arde maybe idk

[thorn ibex]

oblivion is one of the only dps arts unit weapon iirc?

[primal anchor]

hi, is there a damage calculator anywhere to determine hit damage under specific conditions?

[dry kindle]

Yeah for what arts unit dps

[torn raft]

Damn, well it wasnt the biggest investment

[lime bear]

Fangyi trust

[thorn ibex]

also sundered prince looks good too no? buffing final strike stagger efficiency

so u can just onfield a support to break enemy faster

[dry kindle]

That's 33.6% fs at max

💀

[storm oar]

+6% arts damage taken debuff Ardelia
+3% attack buff Akekuri
+6% arts damage taken fire only Wulfgard

[icy ginkgo]

where are you getting your sanity wtf

[storm oar]

They all seemp retty small

[icy ginkgo]

it adds up

[storm oar]

for maxed essences

[icy ginkgo]

fairs

[thorn ibex]

oh that's not efficiency it's just dmg% i'm illiterate

[lost heart]

What is the hardest content in the game right now besides not including timed content?

[storm oar]

the story bosses

[dry kindle]

Its both

[icy ginkgo]

convince me to buy this

[storm oar]

recrisis

[storm oar]

the battlepass gives tons

[torn raft]

Wait until you need it tbh

[dry kindle]

Staying awake till umbral drops

[torn raft]

Theres what 35 days on it?

[dry kindle]

40

[storm oar]

39d

[lost heart]

Imagine how you will feel if you look to see if you need something but you already have it

[dry kindle]

Crown income is so ass

[icy ginkgo]

trimming the three bosses

[torn raft]

How is operator maxing looking like

Feels like 2 weeks

[dry kindle]

Fuckin doubt

[icy ginkgo]

i cant even trim rhodagn with avywenna bro

[dry kindle]

Skill issue

Just p5w5 gilberta

[icy ginkgo]

its a credit card issue

antal will solo though

[torn raft]

Youre right, battle pass is about to run out

[storm oar]

We get them from events, just wait for the first event

before deciding

[thorn ibex]

it's a nice 18 -> 24 stagger buff then?

[dry kindle]

Yeah

Rhodagn is 280 stagger

🗿

Welp back to coping we ever get a 2 team mode

[gritty olive]

im gonna manually calculate stuff

[heavy fossil]

crowns are so lame, why did they have to gate upgrade materials

[icy ginkgo]

yeah id rather them replace it with training time from arknights

[heavy fossil]

what’s that

[icy ginkgo]

theres a timer, usually around 12-18 hours before the skill gets upgraded

[gritty olive]

you just need to wait like 8, 16, 24 hours for mastery 1 to mastery 3

and you need easy to acquire books and not ao easy to acquire materials for the other stuff

[fathom spear]

hope the game will be a chill endgame like AK. The other gacha game i play is too sweaty and i dont have any good experience doing the endgame 😭

[gritty olive]

fairly doable since i did m9 cs

[dry kindle]

Umbral jumpscare

[icy ginkgo]

hopefully theyll give out those free m3 cards as well

[heavy fossil]

I hope they’ll give out more pulls ngl

[fathom spear]

Vro. No gacha endgame i’ve play is more stressful than playing a horses game

[dry kindle]

I needa do etchspace still

[fathom spear]

Wait for the event and see if good income, hope so

[heavy fossil]

ive grinded out 110 but I don’t think I can do this anymore 😭 pull grind is so boring

I’ll wait until events and next patch to see how pull income ends up

[icy ginkgo]

boring ass gamemode

[dry kindle]

Free shit is free shit though

[icy ginkgo]

rewards are insane though

[heavy fossil]

pgr endgame is really fun ngl

I can’t stop glazing pgr help

[dry kindle]

Not enough to make the mode bearable tho

[icy ginkgo]

basically what if we took the most boring aspects of exploration and made it a whole gamemode

[storm oar]

2 down 2 to go

[gritty olive]

what am i missing here? theres no other modifiers for her combo with tide fall + 3 pyrometer no?

[blazing lake]

@rare rover i figured out 2nd phase and how i should rot, but the beginning part i need to optimize better

i do too much damage

[dry kindle]

Just stop hitting

[rare rover]

[dry kindle]

🗿

[blazing lake]

i lost a lot of time in the beginning

[strong warren]

how do i get eligible gear for artificing

clearly it's not all gear

[rare rover]

ill do more attempts once i finish placing all these god dang ziplines to all my owls

[blazing lake]

you gotta do a side quest in wuling

[strong warren]

does it have a match certain stats

[rare rover]

these other player ziplines are throwing me off so badly though

[blazing lake]

yes

[strong warren]

i can artifice but how do i know what to use as fodder

[blazing lake]

its like death stranding

[dry kindle]

Strength agility will intellect

[strong warren]

what about 3rd line

like atk/crit/dmg

[dry kindle]

Redeemer stuff if it can

Everything else just pray

[strong warren]

so it has to be a matching slot and also a matching stat?

like if i want to level up ult gain on a kit i have to find another kit with ult gain thats higher than the one i have?

[mild quarry]

Can a duplicate gear work the same? Or is the redeemer stuff just better

[dry kindle]

Holy fuck

@mystic halo https://x.com/pokkecorp/status/2016816144146190531?s=20

PokkeCorp (@pokkecorp)

PLEASE READ THIS IN ITS ENTIRETY.

I've had a call with Prydwen and the TCs for a good while to go over what's happening here, thank you for taking the time for a very nice discussion.

To summarize, the main 2 issues are: LYNX dealt less damage than Tide Fall, and Tide Fall has

X · Jan 29, 2026, 10:10 AM

Kill me

[dry kindle]

Better stat for better rate

[blazing lake]

107%

[mild quarry]

K thanks

[tight haven]

they gave the endmin a credit card

[strong warren]

so there's no option for elemental dmg% seems like?

[tight haven]

i think ive spent 2000 sanity so far on just fucking essences

[strong warren]

besides using the identical one

[tight haven]

im going insane

just give me laevs essence. just give me laevs essence

[strong warren]

i guess i will artifice main stat then

[dry kindle]

Is pokke even in here

[midnight stirrup]

Bro what is the logic behind combo ordering

Perlica is last slotted, Xaihi second slotted

[dry kindle]

Squad order

[midnight stirrup]

Perlica combo still shows up before Xaihi

wth

[dry kindle]

Skill issued

[midnight stirrup]

Tell the game that

Tf

I cant put Perlica in the middle, cause Ardelia will be last

This is annoying ash

Lemme record it actually, maybe yall can help

[dreamy stirrup]

How long does ardelia's arts susceptibility last?

[dry kindle]

@jolly valve lynx does less damage in 2 enhanced skill rotations also pretty sure the energy maths is wrong

[dry kindle]

30s

[midnight stirrup]

L O L

Pokke is in here

[dry kindle]

Should sic opal on em

Can someone actually clip the no tide rotation

[midnight stirrup]

Ignore the rot past the second FS. But where is the combo order going wrong, I dont get it. I need Perlica to hit after Xaihi.

[dry kindle]

What for

[dreamy stirrup]

Is perlica actually better than fluorite for last rite?

[midnight stirrup]

Need her to buff after LR third FS

[dry kindle]

Yes

[midnight stirrup]

Fluorite is trash

[dreamy stirrup]

Spamming 3 stacks is worse than perlica?🤔

I'm actually surprised

[dry kindle]

spam

💀

[midnight stirrup]

1 stack every full moon

[dreamy stirrup]

Its not that long tho

[midnight stirrup]

Perlica gives debuff and atk% buff to team

If you cancel on LR, it rly aint hard to 3-stack

[dreamy stirrup]

After 2 combos you get 3 stacks

[midnight stirrup]

And thats all she gives, every other rot

Perlica offers way more to that team

[dreamy stirrup]

If fluorite had 1 buff it would've been better ig

[dreamy stirrup]

Canceling her ba ?

[midnight stirrup]

NA2 Dash cancel NA45 FS Dash cancel

Cancelling after NA2 takes out her NA3 completely

[dreamy stirrup]

Wouldn't that make fluorite even faster tho

[dry kindle]

Makes fluorite even slower

[midnight stirrup]

Pretty sure theres a massive cd on Fluorite combo

[dreamy stirrup]

Ig yall calculated the difference to be so confident about it
I'l bench her ig

[dry kindle]

You can do 8 rite 2 final lines

In the time it takes for fluorite to come off cooldown with p5

[midnight stirrup]

Also

Perlica does a shitload of stagger damage for an off field

[dreamy stirrup]

Fluorite could apply 2 times on 3 skills ig

[bronze plume]

tbf if i got hit by a giant pillar from a spaceship id be staggered alot too

[midnight stirrup]

This is taking into account P5 tho

Honestly Perlica so based

idk why people called her trash at the start

[bronze plume]

people call lots trash before actually testing etc

in genshin bennett was called shit in 1.0

[midnight stirrup]

Even if, LR can self sufficient stack with Xaihi fast enough

where Perlica buffs become way more valuable

[dreamy stirrup]

Aren't her buffs only from her weapon?

[midnight stirrup]

Only fuck ahh problem with Perlica is her combo running before Xaihi

which I still havent figured out

[midnight stirrup]

No, she deals electrification with combo

[bronze plume]

man the full version of we are empire is hard

[midnight stirrup]

electrification increases art damage taken iirc

[dreamy stirrup]

Hmm

[midnight stirrup]

Wanna use her combo before LR combo tho

[midnight stirrup]

@bronze plume Do you know the problem here

why is Perlica combo before Xaihi combo

even tho Xaihi slotted second and Perlica fourth

[dreamy stirrup]

Any cancel tips on leviathan too?

[bronze plume]

im not the person to ask about cryo teams

[midnight stirrup]

Fuck

[bronze plume]

i give 0 fucks about LR and Yvonne

[midnight stirrup]

I mean tbf its more a combo order issue than a cryo issue

but fair

I somehow ended up with Ph5P1 Laev

I dont even have Laev built

[bronze plume]

wtf is ph5

[midnight stirrup]

Wait im saying it wrong

hollon

[midnight stirrup]

Potential something

im not ingame rn cant check

[bronze plume]

potential is the amount of dupes you have

[midnight stirrup]

I know

[bronze plume]

p1 is correct if youve gotten 1 dupe

but wtf is ph5

[midnight stirrup]

But it says potential something rather than potential for dupes

weapons are just potential for refines

[bronze plume]

both are just called potentials

[midnight stirrup]

am i dumb

hollon

[bronze plume]

yeah

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-shit-3gSkWofqNbnPi

[bronze plume]

its called "Potential Phase" but no mf is putting phase into it

[midnight stirrup]

Oh right

phase

So pp5p1

why they called both the same

[bronze plume]

as you in got her weapon max pot?

[midnight stirrup]

Nah

Potential phase 5, potential 1

as in I own 1 copy of her weapon

[bronze plume]

you have her max?

[midnight stirrup]

Her cons yeah

eidolons

whatever u wanna call them

[bronze plume]

in how many pulls

[magic topaz]

hot works 3 set (gauntlets and battle skill bonus kits) with tide fall light armor offset for ultimate gain
or
tide fall light armor offset with eternal xiranite power cores and t1 glove for lae

[midnight stirrup]

uhhh

idk actually hollon

i was trying to lose 5050s

for yvonne

but won basically all

L O L

[bronze plume]

oh so youre just a whale

man who tf cares gang

[midnight stirrup]

you asked

😭

[tight haven]

lOL

[bronze plume]

i thought it was going to be some insane luck thing

[midnight stirrup]

i mean tbf

[bronze plume]

but bros just a whale

[magic topaz]

pleas help

[midnight stirrup]

while i was still f2p

[magic topaz]

[midnight stirrup]

i got gilberta laev and pog within 30 pulls

[bronze plume]

"while i was still f2p" so for yo first 3 hours

[midnight stirrup]

shit it still counts as luck

[bronze plume]

naur

its nullified by the whaling

[midnight stirrup]

true

i kinda regretted breaking f2p

but now im full balling

[blazing lake]

@rare rover BOOOSH

cant park there mateeee

[rare rover]

nice

[blazing lake]

i need to do tri now...

[rare rover]

haha.....

gl

[blazing lake]

😔

[magic topaz]

how did man do this

[midnight stirrup]

marble aint hard

get skill diffed

[blazing lake]

it is skill diff

[rare rover]

skill based and build base and money based

[magic topaz]

i mean, i did my first run with underleveled operators 😭

[blazing lake]

you need all the SP from dodging

[midnight stirrup]

no shit then

[blazing lake]

i got good attack pattern rng for SP

so i crushed the 2nd stun

[magic topaz]

they were all level 40-45

[dreamy stirrup]

What's the optimal time to trigger last rite combo?

[magic topaz]

hot works 3 set (gauntlets and battle skill bonus kits) with tide fall light armor offset for ultimate gain
or
tide fall light armor offset with eternal xiranite power cores and t1 glove for lae

[rare rover]

i mean u cant blame them they didnt know what they were getting into XD

[magic topaz]

i determined those 2 were best, if there are any better ones

p[leas tell

[bronze plume]

the former

[blazing lake]

nah marble is pretty hard

like planning that is

[magic topaz]

so the hot works 3 set with the tide fall light armor?

[bronze plume]

that is what the former refers too yes

[blazing lake]

kunst tube saves all runs

[magic topaz]

just confirming, still learning some english right now

thank you

[bronze plume]

learn this one

buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

that is a complete english sentence

[midnight stirrup]

I checked

Spend around 400~ pulls for Laev P5

[bronze plume]

thats pretty good

for a whale

[midnight stirrup]

Yuh

Earlies and 5050 wins

[blazing lake]

wdf

[midnight stirrup]

C6ing Durin in Genshin cost me 1200

😭

[blazing lake]

😭

[midnight stirrup]

I dont want fuck ahh Laev p5 tho

I want LR p5

[bronze plume]

the first problem was playing genshin

[dreamy stirrup]

Arent dupes litterally ass in this game?

[midnight stirrup]

They are

[rare rover]

oh lord ziplines really make delivery so much more easier

[blazing lake]

getting trim with p0 is always something you can do

[midnight stirrup]

I wasnt aiming for Laev dupes

LR dupes are pretty good

[bronze plume]

aint no fucking way im seeing a whale complain about getting cons on a limited they pulled for

[midnight stirrup]

I ALWAYS

ALWAYS

lose the 5050

[dreamy stirrup]

🤧

[midnight stirrup]

so why not now

smfh

[bronze plume]

compared to hoyoshit they are compared to is this con useful they are normally ehh not worth but yeah they do something

[bronze plume]

wompity wompity shoulda waited for a limited you wanted

[midnight stirrup]

All in all I got

P5R1 Laev, P2R1 Pog, P1R1 LR, P0R0 Gilberta

Managed to dodge Ember

crazy

[rare rover]

im afraid pepper is just another me, i too have lost 50/50s for whole years on other games just to not lose any 50/50s in ark endfield XD

[midnight stirrup]

Its okay

I got money

[blazing lake]

dokkan has no pity

[midnight stirrup]

[blazing lake]

yall looking in the wrong gacha

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

that doesnt make it any better

[midnight stirrup]

Man fuck dokkan

png ahh gacha

[blazing lake]

faith and you get daima goku

🙏

[midnight stirrup]

idm spending on this game tho

the game has been incredible

[bronze plume]

youre just telling me you make bad decisions regardless of if you have extra money or not

[midnight stirrup]

looking forward to see what they do with the personal budget they make

mfs made 28,7 million apparently in the first 6 days on mobile sales

[rare rover]

wait im lost

why are u 2 bickering

[midnight stirrup]

tbf

[bronze plume]

gang this aint bickering

[midnight stirrup]

its just banter

[rare rover]

[midnight stirrup]

Beef got a point

im irresponsible

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-iJJ6E58EttmFqgLo96

[dry kindle]

Pipebomb

[rare rover]

nah thats just every gacha player kewk

[bronze plume]

spending on a banner you dont want the limited on then saying i didnt want the limited

[midnight stirrup]

TRUE

[bronze plume]

makes bro sound like a donut

[dreamy stirrup]

F2p laughing on the corner

[midnight stirrup]

Bro I thought I was gonna lucksack another gilberta moment

and get Yvonne at 10 pity

😭

[rare rover]

i spend molah cause the game kept giving me laev

[midnight stirrup]

Game actually made me only lose 1 5050

crazy

[rare rover]

also i loved her story quest

[bronze plume]

give me $50 nzd and ill call you awesome im 25 away from pot 1 laev

[dreamy stirrup]

Aw man

[midnight stirrup]

Laev story quest was so mid

Yvonne story quest was peak

[rare rover]

that and well im apparently endfields favorite

[midnight stirrup]

Can we get LR on banner ty

[bronze plume]

she is on the banner tbf

[midnight stirrup]

You F2P?

[midnight stirrup]

yea I can tell

[bronze plume]

naur

[midnight stirrup]

im still P1

[bronze plume]

ive spent

like

uhh

hold up

[midnight stirrup]

bet

[rare rover]

i liked yvonnes quest too but i really liked laev other than the part where it kept crashing my pc on highest setting so i had to finish it on mobile XD

[midnight stirrup]

i should have enough for weapon pity for gilberta sig

[fresh lynx]

so Laevatein with tide fall armor instead of Lynx Slab as the off piece is the best to go? I've seen many people including guoba/prydwen and other guidemakers saying Tide Fall could be better early but once you have everything maxed Lynx is better end game, is this just false?

[midnight stirrup]

laev had a lack of good cutscenes ngl

yvonne quest had the tata heartstrings

also yvonne just a cutie

[rare rover]

yeah but hot woman hot in two ways

[bronze plume]

just under $80 nzd

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

which is uhh

just under 50 usd

[midnight stirrup]

oh not bad

[bronze plume]

damn the usd has gone down

[midnight stirrup]

i think I spent about 250

which is nothing tbf

[rare rover]

[bronze plume]

what r yall doing for the usd to go down

[midnight stirrup]

im european

fuck ahh usd

[bronze plume]

i can smell it

[rare rover]

cry and uh go to bed

[midnight stirrup]

Ember gonna jumpscare yo ahh

[bronze plume]

i just need the 25 bruh

[rare rover]

if u want extra luck i can watch u pull, im 6 for 6 on laev 50/50s

[midnight stirrup]

oh im blind

bro that 25 is easy ingame farms

[bronze plume]

idc who tf i get with the 6 star pity i need the 25