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But yeah, Leavatain's weapon also has wonky scaling. So it's one of those weapons where you should leave it P0, or go P5. Anytrhing inbetween is bad value. As the last potential gives 30% more normal DMG, all other potentials give 15%.
I wonder if other weapons are like this?
I would genuinely rather run Fluorite with her 40 second combo and 0 damage amp for more consistent rotations than a higher damage per screenshot
I understand having more than one rotation is bad on Yvonne, but I'm not gonna act like we should remove all possible attempts to make a secon drotation
i mean do it if you want but its still a worse team
as always suggestions are assuming endgame viability
if its daily farming or story then use whateverb ut
Why the hell would I not be talking about endgame viability?
fluorite aint cutting it
I'm not like that guy from earlier who said that crit is amazing on every character because you can stack it on overworld easily
I understand that most of these discussions are under the assumption of lvl 90 bosses
if you're playing around the second and/or rot you've already failed trim, realistically
which in terms of this minmax sort of tc means the team is unviable
yvonne is struggling to trim rhodan currently
What exactly is "Trim?" I've heard it brought up multiple times
oh dear
how to use those engraving permit like i wanna farm for lae weapon so
120s rhodan
240s dorito and marble
Is this some sort of achievement?
Anyone??
buy permit from wuling stock redist
go to wuling essence farm
pick either twlight or attack boost
pick int + main stat boost + any stat
hope you win the gamble to get int + atk boost + twilight
twilight gives you a cope piece sooner
attackb oost is higher change for usable essences on other units
yes
its the only current endgame challenge
if umbral monument remains the same joke it was in cbt then it will also be the only endgame challenge for a while
Who which is best for lae weapon and among 5 energy alluvium which one to pick
it was explained in the message
I mean, at the end of the day, the discussion kinda centers around what I mentioned last week: We really need a better cryo inflictor
yes
cryo sucks
we've known for a while
hope the sankta or lycia is cryo
if not both
LR is the only thing carrying Cryo, what a shame
i googled lycia to double check
this fucking game
She's the NotTalulah in powerplant
I imagine we'd get the 3 Wuling+Rossi before we get anything new, and none of them look Cryo
save cryo society
I am confused
It's my first time doing i didn't get it so like we can choose two stats primary I should int and secondary atk?
I forgot she existed
Sankta spear one will be physical, surely 
She has like what? 3s screentime?
you want an essence that has intellect boost, attack boost and twilight
all this time i thought it was a new character not lycia
Do you guys think they'll rework CR/CD damage sub-stat to make it worth building. Or just keep power creeping future characters with lots of in-built crit so it eventually comes worth building anyway?
Turn around after showing her gyatt
"Do not forget your promise Endfield"
*Leaves"
Int and atk i can just fix it and hope to get twilight?
honestly mi fu is kind of a wildcard
you have to pick 3 from the top
imo
Crit is not worth building unless it's a crit dedicated DPS. Crit doesn't have a good universal way to increase cdmg atm
This isn't Hoyoverse, you can let go of crit
now that i know its lycia i doubt she's anything other than electric mainly and some force apply combustion flavour
Mifu phys electro enabler ๐
no way its 3 fire chars
I wonder how long it's going to be
until we get whole teams that dip into both element and physical
maybe a year?
id expect it gets tested around the 6-8mo mark
wuling is going to last for a year or so
Like Shatter comps? Those technically exist
shatter is just physical
it'll be both wuling and valley 4 expansions till 2.0
Correct?
Technically has solidifcation which is cryo 
Didn't say it was a good example
We can't fix the first stat ahh
It's genuinely not that bad considering the levels of RNG Hoyoverse gear has in comparison
Nope every character must eventually have 100 CR & 500 CD like my Nefer. 
hitting 3/3 essence is just 1/24
and if you are unlucky initially it doesnt matter that much
it's trivial comapred to rolling substat
in other games
instead of crit being the assumed permanent factor
in this game it's loaded damage% buffs
Got this
can put it on temporarily just dont upgrade it
Okay
What are like best stats cause i see attack boost having 3 lines in some pieces
there's an additional rng chance for it to drop with more starting pips
Oh
mine was 1/1/1 so i wouldnt get your hopes up for a 3/3/2 or 3/3/3
So all goes up to same level?
cap is all same
but highest possible start is 4/4/3
which actually
still doesnt reduce expected amount of fodder consumed by much at all
could i use last rite as my cryo applier and sub dps over snowshine?
lmao ive never seen a 4
feels like snowshine does what last rite does but flat out worse
neither snowshine nor last rite are good
while I was farming for scathe I got a 3/4/2
gilberta
but unfortunately it had will instead of int
other than xaihi's every 2nd rotation application
be fr
this all i got
im literally only missing standard units and gilberta
how are the other units ihave "Subpar" for her
๐
yes and yvonnes viability is tied to gilberta and gilberta alone
because gilb is the only half decent teammate she has
and is the only way she can do anything notable
correct!
or last rite hyper works
so when does my yvonne become good 
both laev and last rite are pretty cheap to make teams for
when they release good cryo supports
thankfully
i poured so much into her
gilberta is potential woman #1
yvonne is potential woman #2
both are waiting for better units to go with
1.1 and 1.2 has a 1/6 chance left of a new cryo enabler for yvonne
so get praying
gilberta at least has occasional employment in unhinged speedrunning and has a lot of unique traits there
I have valley 4 pass as well so what to use them on like alderia weapon
Or thermal cutter of akekine matches any?
yvonne is living on welfare without gilb bro
what would i run with laev + ardelia
i wanted to pull gilb but then i needed to save 120 for rossi and now i need 240 for rossi and lycia
wolf boy and the 4* cutie?
its so over
you can see the sheet in #team-build
we'll for sure get a phys unit for Mi Fu, and thunder for exwife
mifu is electric too
Shuo help pls
maybe some heat flavour
good thing my entire investment was only yvonne and ardelia
so it isnt expensive to switch lol
I genuinely think mi fu is going to be a wildcard
she fights with gauntlets though
please does anyone know BIS armor for laevatain at p4
shit's going to come out of left field for SURE
i havent farmed any essences that arent forgeborn, backread for the essence optimizer link
Forgeborne ehh
and in the cutscene she charges them with electricity to set things on fire
I don't get these complex words lol
forgeborn = laevatein sig weapon
Ic ic
I don't recall that, but maybe I missed it
tickets and gifts
buy out high tier mat selector box
stockpile tickets for when i need them
it's very good
and that
Tickets which one
no the essence guarantee passes
Ohh
so do i use akekuri or lizard man
Ic ic
reading the paragraphs exlains their use cases
stockpiling essence ticket kind of doesnt do anything if youre not also stocking sanity pots that dont expire
because you dont get enough sanity per week to use the tickets that you could buy that week
im gonna stop when i have enough to sit on
especially in v4
time to fully invest into my laev team
I already got my gilb weapon essence as well
goodbye yvonne... i will miss you until you get your bis support
but atleast i got you
so it's big chilling
time to fail every single etch!
welcome to the squad
i whiffed the therm box so i have like nothing worth grinding
is one cycle ult that good on laevatain like I've alr artificed hella into heat
it seems im broke in exp
starry essence i guess
oh dear....
Link pls
but obj x2 is lmao for essences
i dont have it on hand
if i cant artifice immediately (cuz wuling eco is buns) should i run the right set for now at base values?
yes
artificing the left set right now is somewhat bait too
since we dont know if its better in the long run
(it probably will be but im coping that they made umbral monument harder)
There is a sheet?
Link???
I already made it and even outside of the actual endgame stuff(where it's optimal in 2/3 of the fights though it isnt really indicative of anything)
it's very nice for daily
do i even bother with the left side
does it need max artifice
or only _1?
yes
+1*
bro the text is there man
every ult gain one needs to be maxed
read it
hm
isnt maxing them very expensive tho
hm hm
sorry for the dumb q, but whats the max upgrade?
it's not that bad if you want to break into the startup fund
of 12k costing consumables
my wuling bill income got bricked because i forgot to turn off my component farm so im behind on the buyouts
but that is a decision yo uhave to make for yourself
super frustrating
#team-build pins
you can turn it off and do something else for more bills?
im capped on components....
i run 2 xiranite lines in which is 60/min cost
plus battery at 30/min
is more than the 60/min produced
you ahve to switch between parts and 12 battery/min
i forgot to turn it off so i used all my xiranite and it bricked my battery
for wuling, is it better to prioritize wuling batteries or yazhen syringes for trade with the limited amount of ferrium we get?
lose all power > nothing works
batteries use no ferrium
metastorage for more ferrium
This is something I actually am curious about, but do you guys actually use Wulfgard's enhanced battle?
Since it recommends Clannibal
Oh okay, so we're just using Clannibal for the stats lul
obj is the alternative
waiting for breakpoint calc on his ult gain% to know if it does anything
Nono, I was just wondering because of Clannibal's passive
I really wish this guy would include his fucking calculations in this sheet, ngl
so cannibal just stat stick
mostly
ic ic
Gilberta
im cujrrently eating out of paper bags as it is @daring dove
which website is this
there will be no gilberta usage
You can read the paragraphs next to the icons lol
#team-build pins
Im not sure anyone would know what breakpoints were for wulfgard ult
i had 700k woah where did it all go
its the same for akekuri
It's fine I was more laughing at someone actually put Gilberta as an option. Akekuri is the only correct choice. 
it's all vibes based
no one has done the math yet
Tbh, that whack ahh energy gain Laev build is funny enough that I almost want to attempt it, but the resources to get there would be too much
oh no, I mean like show me the rotation notations and and numbers used to calculate each team comp
ill probably commit to it too but i know like
whether or not someone would recommend others do it too is subjective
if i do the day after someone will find something better
youre right, brain farted and thought the setup i was using had ferrium be used in batteries
cant be worse than investing in yvonne!
how many catalyst is it to guarantee all the ult gain upgrades again
Lol. Lmao even.
too many....
for some reason I was relegated to the communication medium between users in this server and the author(the author is literally in the server please just go tell them what you want)
and their response on this was
"just figure out the rotation lol it's not hard"
end quote
i talked to them earlier about the exact thing lmao
holup his writing was fire tho
my dumbass didnt connect the dots that the 2 users with the same name were the same person
Im not sure if that is a thing that will ever happen
how did i get so broke..
and i havent even leveled nor invested intoa akekuri or wolf boy yet
its so over
6 digits money is better off than the majority of people on this game
hes talking about weapon xp i think
i think the spreadsheet is broken 
yeah but most people have no xp or money
i need this battlepass to level up fast
browser/mobile issue
and like, rn
copy and paste the link into your browser to maybe unbrick it
ok so the thing is
if I asked the person to come up with a fix for this
knowing him so far
he would come up with some unimaginably cursed shit
its googles fault more than theirs
like pasting it into an online powerpoint or something
and now i run out of stuff to sell, rah....
Listen, I'm not saying I think his numbers are wrong, but I think it's not a bad idea to add the notations as someone who's trying to make a resource guide
Like, hundreds of people are gonna read this, and you can expect at least 75% of them to be stupid
he has make copy and download perms on the sheet
so maybe downloading it as a file
would fix it
just open it locally
better than shitass gsheet
any tips for this i just cant clear
time to 12/m battery + 4.5~6/m syringe
guys real question
i need some peoples advise
current investment : yvonne 90 ardelia 80 snowshine 60 xaihi 80
will laev and ardelia at 80, with the rest of the team in shambles outperform until i can invest in the side mfs?

it will be fine cause the other two are just utility slave
if you're not doing trims any team can clear anything
you dont invest in side mfs
all they need to do is to be able to wear gold gear

How 90 how are u guys clearing crisis drill
I just can't
just lvl 60 them
pov i need mor exp
back to the mines i go
i aint even tried crisis drills lmao
im still doing other stuff...
set up dijang for good afk exp up there
trimmed medals have time limits
on the clear time
not a time limit to clear them before they go
oh is t rimmed medals for flex
they never expire
dude electric trim dorito must be torture
Trims?
so i wanna invest in her finallyge
ye like haircuts
i aint able to clear idk why
even following rotation
or is that a different one

i can eventually use these right guys
ye, just invest them all into your mdps
you will eventually beg for more of these
no SHOT
you mean m3
The endmins gotta be rich surely we can take out a little loan
Yep died again
hmm pretty cheap, only 65k 
I just can't do that idk why
but 50 purple, so much purple
m3 is also way cheaper than it used to be
This one
wait if u consider that im dropping yvonne, then i got lucky on getting her perfect weapon etch right
over yvonnes

im just coping her teammates r releasing soon
or are your teammate ai dying

Is this one any tips to clear
but.... laev is right there...
cuz i dont have anyone beside yvonne
but my yvonne is 90 with all skills lv 9!!!
once her teammates release...
i can finally use her
she'll be ready!
Pls help a fellow 
ye i did
butt i got it on purple gold ones
they take 4ever
still broke... oh dear
but, it's a good start

did that
kek
its okie
he just needs a bit more
then 80 ascend and hes done
tryna work on her as far as i can first
whats the skill level up prio for laev
for a broke boy
basic?
it's called cbt for a reason
once i get my laev to 90/90
she should be better than my yvonne up front
just gotta try for her essence
not exactly difficult to pull off i think
bar is on the floor
lmao really? its that bad?
in the context of endgame (aka trims) yes
yvonne is not in a good spot
for most people that is irrelevant because they're not doing trims and everything else is super easy
erm
i dont have cannibal for my wolf boy
do i do 2 more multis on the laev banner and pick it?
Doesn's matter.
weapon banner*
clannibal is not worth 2 arsenal draws
๐คค
ehem....
haha....
welp
time to go grind more
with my sanity
can i leave her 80 80 for the time being so i can go and 60 my other units to get them runnable?
my resources.... ah...
my laev
time to dip in essence
and see if we hit
i need wuling engraving permits for her... its joever
With the amount of fake valley money I get, I would take the tcreds

im using estella instead of fluerite in a yvonne team with akekuri and gilberta, for some reason she perfroms better? she instantly shatters solidifaction witrh her combo skill and adds a lot of stagger. anyone else notice this?
do we have calcs/comparisons on yvonne's weapon choices ?
nothing too specific yet
thx ^^
Does anyone have a link to the gold gear for Laev team? All the guides I'm finding say different things. I have Wulf sorted with ult gear
Okay I will look thank you
what is trims? Is this some kind of hard contnet where do i find it?
Recrisis l90
Beat rhodagn in 120s
Beat dorito or marble in 240s
is it hard though?
Some requirements?
But is hard at lower investments
I have lv 90 laev
my gold gear is not upgraded.
She is p3
Wepoan also with +4 in int and atakc boost

what to do to deal any dmg
post lv 30 or so the dmg is so low
and fight so long and boring
craft gear
make a good team comp
upgrade talents and character levels
learn how physical/arts reactions work
etc
yo what the fuck why did my ginseng plot timers reset
i ransacked ur world sorry
i just stole your trimmed medals kid
jokes on you i didnt have any to steal
so yeah I just waited 4 hours for ginseng only for it to reset
i'll see you all in 4 hours
you can, however, bring one to the front and refresh its qte duration by reactivating its trigger condition again
pretty much only realistic if your trigger is final strike
dude are you not using sprinklers
i am
oh is it 3 cycles?
yep
wow that's even worse
it takes as long as tartpepper/reed rye
whats a good combo to test laev with?
im thinking this assumign full energy laev:
ake e -> wulf c -> ake e -> surtr N5 -> ardelia c -> surtr c q e N5
Was looking at the teambuild guide just now
Is there nobody in the game right now who utilises Oblivion (catalyst)
@tight haven would you be fine with performing this?
I guess we lack main dps catalyst users
when i get home yea
this seems very simple
pls make sure the enemy survives 
Dont worry, well get a training dummy in 6 years
So, is there an equivalent to RIIC channel here for base rotations?
try #aic-factory
should account for dijiang
Good
the rotation should be able to activate hotworks
Dijiang is what I was referring to
how does arclights passive work? to get it to trigger on a boss i need to cast it twice? and on groups can it consume multiple at once to trigger with just one cast?
is it even worth tryna trigger since u kinda want electrification to boost the teams damage
im using the sutr tream
sutre + signature
akekuri + thermite cutter
wulfguard + rational farawell
eiyq + chivalaric virtues (waiting for her sig)
all on gold recomended gear
sutr 80/90 with sword 85/90
9/9/9/10
didnt get resources to upgrade artis
essence +1 attack, +2 twlights
+1 twilight from weapon dupe
and i literally do no dmg
like what the helll
wdym by "post level 30" then
are you doing your rotation properly
post level 30 but golden gear 
after lv 30 there was no dmg
and in late game theres still no dmg
how big are the damage numbers you're hitting
everything after 30
how did you make it past level 31 with no damage
how well do you understand your team
not enough, like highest i seen was maybe 35k in empowered skill in ult last hit (critted)
ake skill -> wulf combo -> ake skill -> surtr n5 -> eyja combo -> surtr combo -> surtr skill -> surtr n5 until two bars -> repeat above -> surtr q e unleash N5 hell
surely surtr is gearing this
bro doesnt know what hyperbola is
*hyperbole
im on a lynx slab for a main atribute increase
then go with tidefall
this sounds like even less dmg

omg freedom...
are you doing rotations or are you just pressing buttons
grats
sounds like a skill issue at this point
less damage but you only need 3 skills + combo + enhanced skill for 150 energy
Whats the essence etch prio, im assuming its twilight
im not playing the game to learn a fucn rotation and execute it like a copy paste
and so yes, im pressing buttons
not randmly, but not into strict rotation
And theres no way to raise the success rate?
im talking about dmg, not energy tho
what do u think the energy is for
if youre randomly pressing buttons, your buffs are probably all desynced
so are you saying that after applying all of your relevant buffs and debuffs to the enemy, your surtr is hitting for 35k on an enhanced skill?
i find that hard to believe
so none of your stuff is working properly
well it doesnt make my ultimate do more dmg, does it
gets u in ult faster
Like is there a way to raise this, and do we know the actual %
more ult more damage
ideally your N5s should be conducted after combustion + 4 magmastacks
since the timer for the res ignore starts when you acquire 4 magmas
assumign you dont use tidefall you might want to delay surtrs enhanced for another skill from another person which can take some time = damage loss
when doing enhanced skill as surtr your buff bar in the bottom left should be full af and the enemy should also ideally have a bunch of debuff icons
but you can wait for me calcing this properly 
currently unbuffed she goes like this with the rotation i sent
you can play however you want if you dont want to learn and "copy paste" rotations, but its kinda wild that you'd come here and complain about damage when you refuse to rotate properly and are likely dropping buffs/debuffs left and right
im just impressed with how he was clearing level 31+ mobs with no damage
lynx slab is less damage and worse rotation at all stages in the game btw
it's worthless
is this according to the above calc?
ult charge set is best 
like whos saying this stuff
this was established back in cbt and everyone who knows what they are talking about is on the same page in regards to this
i see
you get a small edge in atk
but lose in average damage per % multiplier
even with boosts from food
it is not worth
opal since youre here
has anyone calc'd charge set vs standard hot set
who need whoever was calcing this stuff on the endfield dev team to step forward, clearly they knew her meta set
hows this for a long rotation to test damage
its what displays when u preview her on banner kekw
charge set dpsp is 66-75% of hot work's depending on pot situation & supports
Opal
is that higher with higher pot, or is that lower with higher pot
Is it fine even tho my avy only does 23-28k dmg each spear on stagger
it is better at high dupe

im complaining that just overall dmg is too low and thus combat feels extremly tideous and slow
with lower pot you can remove tidelinked
i'll stick to it then with p5 surtr
I feel like I should just invest on other team rn
it's a very good set
its comfy af to use
well, it could certainly be better
are you going for trim or something
i never found the combat below exploration level 7 to be tedious
in fact, even 7 isn't bad
300 * 0.85 = 255, and this is the same rotation with tidelinked removed
I am
wdym remove tidelinked
It's just that my perli is on oblivion build
what is q e
what is that meant to be
this would be the optimal set for p4+ charge set right?
any1 know what the highest dmg instance is
yeah
ult skill
Also my avy lv 80 w jet
for surtr she can remove tidelinked for something else i guess
uhh given that really barebones timeline
it's fine
if youre just trying to verify calcs
or something
its not a full rotation. its just me calculating damage from two diff persons
yeahyeah
I mean so long as the two players do the same things
it shouldnt matter very much
what exactly the contents are
@stoic dragon are you also fine performing this rotation?
^ ๐
whats tide linked 
fuck is3 brainrot
tide fall
are damage taken/damage dealt/susc./breach all different multipliers
isnt hot gloves better than whatever alternate chest piece
tidelinked bishop clothes is the one that mayors was using 
damage taken, damage dealt should fall in the same category
tidefall gives energy, and hotwork glove + gauntlet is pretty for int
are atk% on weapons and atk from external buffs different categories too
yes
atk% on weapon buffs base atk, normal atk% goes to normal atk% buffs
how should i parse this on thermite cutter
former is base atk, latter is normal atkbonus?
+25% atk for base
id recommend double checking your attributed
send a screenshot to verify
idk how to read this lol
588 * (16% + 9%)
i see
wait just a min 
so the standard charge set for p0 would be tidefall chest, xiranite gloves, and 2x redeemer seals
if p4+, then it would make more sense to replace xiranite gloves with hot work gloves right? rather than replace tidefall chest with something
if you're looking for a 5% discrepancy it's because im in wuling and i just teleported
yeah thats onpoint then
but idk if something like thermite cutter affects base atk%
What's more dps impact
like the thermite cutter buff itself?
Weapon essence etch or char+weapon lv or skill lv
surtr? currently the p0 recommendation is this
i meant if running charge set regardless
two prerequisite rotations lead you to 300
specific essence lines can be extremely important
just level your characters and skills until it becomes prohibitively expensive then look for essence lines that seem really important
I mean I alr got it 3/3 but idk if etching more stat has higher impact than char/weapon/skill lv
Lv 80/80 6/9/9/9, perfect essence but etch is 3/2/2
So I'm asking which one has bigger dps impact
laev sorry
Avy
jet?
Yh
yeah. im assumign thag its a normal atk% buff
Considering there will be a future electric dps
maybe, but i always start with lae ult if i have full energy
It's mainly battle skill, but idk if crowned also gives big dps changes
do you have supporting weapons/charaskills leveled accordingly
idk what elec buffs itself with
Obj light lv 80 arclight
Perlica on dmg build sadly
mmmm
Ardelia w Sig kinda poop
did you pick detonation unit or nah
Obliv
ic
I don't really want high invest on avy but if I can get trim medal then
I will js do it
Rn I just want to see which one gives higher dps% increase so I'll try running the boss again and see if I'm able to get it
So I don't want a lot mats into avy too
sadly i have no idea how much investment avy teams need for trims, i haven't seen any on youtube for aggelomoriai so ๐ฟ
i assume tentacle phase is problematic?
Every phase is problematic
This guy keep tp and my spears are gone before he staggers
do u just not use arclights bskill
its tempting for her passive proc but then, unless ur p5 and got first stack at start of fight with precharged ult
idk if ur gonna have perlica electrification ready for big burst
and perlica runs like crazy amounts of arts intensity so its really nice to have
Is this even worth grabbing? The only person I've seen able to run this is DPS Perlica
itโs more than a 10 pull for a sig. Personally I find it difficult to justify spending my arsenal tickets on anything else for now
esp since if I get an early I donโt wanna have to do extra pulls just to get sig
ye in the future once everybodys ran out of the initial launch arsenal ticket infusion
its gonna be a problem
i dont think 120 pulls worth will guarantee u a sig
still better than having a entirely diff banner for sig tho so im not complaining
I mean, if this was Thermite Cutter and someone didn't pick it up from the first chest, this would be a good investment
yeah I was about to say
i might break that rule for thermite cause itโs just so useful
That's why I was asking about Obliv lul, but ig it's not on the level of Thermite
yeah I did a ton of standard pulls and am saving limited pulls so iโll have to wait to see how my first limited pulls go in order to decide
I pulled over 120 times and did maybe 40 pulls total on weapon banners. Excluding Laev, I got 2 6*s and got 2 more from standard
So it's probably possible
sheโs got strong supportive options too so Iโd say itโs less important
I just wanted to know if Obliv was good on anyone
guessing theyโll just be rotating non-sig 6* weapons weekly so no rush
the initial standard pulls is gonna help a lot for a while
Nah
Myself perlica oblivion electro team user
solo perlica lol
I prefer perlica on support slave
obliv is probably good for perlica in gilberta elec team comp
yeah, I'm waiting on Thermite and maybe Detonation Unit if I don't pick it up from my 45 chest (Still haven't opened it lul)
since shes not art bursting for det unit
I opened my 45 box for detonation but itโs not a super big deal if the other options rotate in arsenal exchange in the future
this is for damage control tests
I regret taking oblivion instead therm cutter

I'm just on the fence about it in case I want to build Da Pan or Avy lol
Even avy
WW is better
What's WW?
I got lucky getting jet on free weapon pull so I didnโt have to make a difficult choice
Wanderer5*
that's...not a polearm is it?
No
U make perlica as art intensity slave
Oh, you mean for Avy
I mean perlica for avy
not as a weapon
yeah okay
I was talking about possibly picking up JET from the box lol
I'm debating if I wanna pull for Gilberta cuz I like Angelina from AK, but then I'd have to ration out my pulls between Gilberta and Yvonne's weapons

(I already have Yvonne)
If u want to run yvone
U should consider gil
idk if there is any team where oblivion is best
If u want to run Yvonne you need Gil.
but seems like itโs not a worthy investment
I plan to run Yvonne but I'm not pulling for Gilb because of Yvonne
Waifu > meta is my philosophy

U won't deal high burst without Gil on her team if that's fine
I won't deal high burst with Gil either, Yvonne's team options kinda suck rn
I mean yvone really need gil
And you misunderstodo my statement - If I get Gil, I will run her with Yvonne, but Yvonne is not the reason I'm pulling for Gil
This is kinda annoying btw, why'd they make this weapon banner last 3 banners to make it convenient for people who lose the 50/50 on Laev, but didn't give us the Gilb/Yvonne weapon banners for 4/5 banners respectively?
Like, the mechanic is good, but Gilb and Yvonne users are kinda suffering for a while
maybe they will but youโll have to wait until their banners start
^
Obviously they're ognna come out when their banners start, my question is why didn't they release them alongside the laev banner and just extend the timers
they could just run multiple wpns
How did you guys misconstrue my statement so bad ๐
I want to talk about gear set for Last Rite, so why literally everyone recommends "Tide Surge" set, if Type 50 Yinglung noticeably better? It's as if no one studies the game themselves, and they just follow each other's opinions.
Just test it lol. I have two "Type 50 Yinglung Knife T1", and "Type 50 Yinglung Heavy Armor", also "Tide Surge" gloves.
possibly because they want the banners to all run for the same length. If they offered yvonne and gilberta weapons now, then people who get them on their banner will have less time after they obtain them to get sig
Itโs probably just for this
Yinglung is only combo, Tide Surge's dmg buff is applicable to ult too
And yes, LR's ult does a lot of damage
yinglung just sounds like a da pan exclusive
who else can even use that
I can't comment, I don't use Da Pan lol
copium pog set
Do you use laev ults on the tentacles in phase 1 or save?
possibly because they want the banners to all run for the same length
Yeah, I think this is the reason too. I just think it's massive oversight on the dev's parts for not thinking "Hm, maybe we should put the off banner 6*s up in case some folks get them early"
It's only gonna be a problem for the first 2 banners, I'm just annoyed as someone who pulled Yvonne lol
da pan combo skill inflicts crush, triggered by the enemy having 4 vulnerability stacks
first one is Tide Surge, second one is type 50. even if you consider 35% arts damage buff type 50 still better, especially for combo attack. since i use it often
...what am I looking at here?
Are you taking into consideration that LR's ult takes advantage of this effect but combo skill cannot because this susceptibility only applies after Cryo has been consumed?
Ult is a lot of damage
I wonder if that means that the next character to release after these first 3 will have yvonne and gilberta still as the off banner limited 6*s
got all the medals :3
It will, yes.
That's mostly why I'm just annoyed that we don't have access to Gilb and Yvonne's weapons sooner - The future limited off banners won't have that issue
oh interesting, detonation unit is really good for Xaihi in a Cryo comp
that makes sense
ember copium
where do you guys farm fillets for ginseng
Run into the wild > slaughter wolves
I don't think it can be automated
but like are there certain hotspots best for it or good routes
Main DPS Ember about to super armor through all the bosses, trust
what is the best dps set for ember actually? asking for a friend
ngl soloing with ember is really fun. Good damage? Ofc not but very fun nonetheless
Idk, probably a feelscrafting time 
Me, iโm that friend (idk you but I actually need to know lol)
We're trimming with this one ๐ฃ๏ธ
Hey all whats the best armour set for Leavatain in a Leava+Wulf+Antal+Adelia team?
Hot work+tide chest?
parry skills feel so good
Yes
I've heard some rumors that Sundered Prince is good for her, but idk how effective they are compared to her sig
Gonna get angie once calcs come out that 0 3 set ult gain one cycle ult laeva out dmgsโฆ
Thoughts on this for dps ember?
Iโm using it LOL
My Ember has it but I'm not using Ember ๐ฅ
Gg account damage already ๐ฅ
I just wanna play a character I like and unfortunately I did not get lifeng so ember was the next best
i have 1 single ginseng to my name left would it help me get the trim
Unfortunately, her Battle does heat dmg ๐ฅ
for the next 12 hours
are there any sets that donโt buff specific damage types?
that are still good for dps
Wait, that's actually great. You'd still miss out on the daily resources, but getting leeway on the pass is awesome
@rare rover you got any ideas for shaving time for rot
cause like ember ult and bs are heat but basic and combo are physical
i can def shave hella time
But muh sanity and ao 
Ginseng
I mean, ideally you wouldn't miss the day. It's just nice that there's some wiggle room
alr pal
also is ultimate gain efficiency really useful for ember?
I find her ult kind of lackluster from a dps standpoint
It's always ginseng
maybe there's a better combination
Swordmancer for staggermaxing?
also thinking that
that would be fun, ember stagger feels good
but unfortunately I am not at endgame yet so I canโt experiment with sets
and sundered prince buffs stagger too right?
yes
only final strike sadly
25 > 28 stagger
do you know if buffs stack on each other
time to do yours
They dont

good to know

:3
@stoic dragon @tight haven just this simple rot
My closest time was 260 imma try it later again but i havent done enough attempts to efficiently do it yet
if anyone is also willing to do this rot(assuming max energy surtr already) let me know


This is p5 laeva?
ive been trying to figure out a good rot to restun her before she flies
@manic blade are you also willing to do some tests
because that move takes up a lot of time
Another slab build has hit the building
like im trying to figure out ult timings so i can make the most out of my stuns
otherwise its nearly impossible to get a good time
yeah prolly later as long as it don't cost artifices...
is Da Pan a better crusher than endmin in physical comp? or do they perform different stuff?
interesting gear set not one i would exactly use

good or bad ๐ญ
i have some requirements tho
- surtr does not have enhanced gear(armor kit gloves)
- allies dont have any buffing gear or weapon
- damage done against a valley iv enemy(wuling has a small atk buff), that ideally survives a small full rotation
if your surtr has an essenced weapon we can sync your weapon to match with the sim ones so like the video recording should include potential -> weapon level -> attributes screen -> fighting rhodgan -> send to me 
the rotation goes like this: ake e -> wulf combo -> ake e -> surtr n5 -> eyja c -> surtr c q e N5
something like this 
I'm still farming the mats and level unlocks, but is this good for my team (leava+wulf+antal+adelia)? I'm just trying to get to clearing level 90 stuff to farm levelling/skill materials -
Leava - Hot work gloves&kit + Tide chest?
Wulf - Hot work chest&kit + Lynx gloves?
Antal - Eternal gloves&kit + Tide chest?
Adelia - Lynx chest&kit + Eternal Gloves?
Wulf is ult spam
Ok whel
no u
broooo
this is hard with avywenna team
Have u even touch the marble yet
Whel
I kinda wanna see the lore of these thing get dried up on land like we can litteraly spray water on them for reward 
I feel like it's impossible for lightning team
Atp
Takes me 5-7 mins to beat
ill make it happen
๐ญ
p0 laev with no paid crowns

Oh that guy is here
what is that?
all 3 trimmed medals
how to get them
@frigid vector slab gives 150 atk at p0 max for the low cost of griefing your rotation and every other stat
beat bosses in under a timeframe
120s for rhod, 240s for fidget spinner and marble woman
How am supposed to do this w lightning
I did rhod tho
๐ญ ๐ญ
150 atk thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


this is hard for electric team
Can someone sum laev comp damage numbers
I told u
i will
does someone here wants to test my damage numbers
If u do lesser than me then u wouldn't even get closecthere
i still need to max avy's essence and gear
But hmuch ur each spear dmg tho
Also don't forget to crown
Fuck it we ball







