#theorycrafting

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mystic halo
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the first thing there

daring dove
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But yeah, Leavatain's weapon also has wonky scaling. So it's one of those weapons where you should leave it P0, or go P5. Anytrhing inbetween is bad value. As the last potential gives 30% more normal DMG, all other potentials give 15%.

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I wonder if other weapons are like this?

terse furnace
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I would genuinely rather run Fluorite with her 40 second combo and 0 damage amp for more consistent rotations than a higher damage per screenshot

I understand having more than one rotation is bad on Yvonne, but I'm not gonna act like we should remove all possible attempts to make a secon drotation

drifting quest
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i mean do it if you want but its still a worse team

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as always suggestions are assuming endgame viability

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if its daily farming or story then use whateverb ut

terse furnace
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Why the hell would I not be talking about endgame viability?

drifting quest
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fluorite aint cutting it

terse furnace
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I'm not like that guy from earlier who said that crit is amazing on every character because you can stack it on overworld easily

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I understand that most of these discussions are under the assumption of lvl 90 bosses

drifting quest
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if you're playing around the second and/or rot you've already failed trim, realistically

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which in terms of this minmax sort of tc means the team is unviable

mystic halo
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yvonne is struggling to trim rhodan currently

terse furnace
mystic halo
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oh dear

earnest patio
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how to use those engraving permit like i wanna farm for lae weapon so

drifting quest
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120s rhodan
240s dorito and marble

terse furnace
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Is this some sort of achievement?

drifting quest
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twilight gives you a cope piece sooner
attackb oost is higher change for usable essences on other units

drifting quest
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its the only current endgame challenge

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if umbral monument remains the same joke it was in cbt then it will also be the only endgame challenge for a while

earnest patio
drifting quest
terse furnace
drifting quest
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cryo sucks

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we've known for a while

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hope the sankta or lycia is cryo

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if not both

terse furnace
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LR is the only thing carrying Cryo, what a shame

mystic halo
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surely the woman with a flaming sword

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is cryo

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๐ŸŒš

drifting quest
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i googled lycia to double check

mystic halo
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this fucking game

drifting quest
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is she even the one in the character teaser

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i thought it was a different woman

rotund yoke
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She's the NotTalulah in powerplant

drifting quest
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huh

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gg

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5/6 are not cryo

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LMAO

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all in on the sankta man

terse furnace
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I imagine we'd get the 3 Wuling+Rossi before we get anything new, and none of them look Cryo

drifting quest
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save cryo society

mystic halo
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he will give sp

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apply 3 stacks

earnest patio
mystic halo
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and be a good xiranite user

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god bless

terse furnace
rotund yoke
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Sankta spear one will be physical, surely PerliFumo

rotund yoke
drifting quest
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all this time i thought it was a new character not lycia

daring dove
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Do you guys think they'll rework CR/CD damage sub-stat to make it worth building. Or just keep power creeping future characters with lots of in-built crit so it eventually comes worth building anyway?

rotund yoke
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Turn around after showing her gyatt
"Do not forget your promise Endfield"
*Leaves"

drifting quest
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fire gets 2
phys gets 1
electric gets 2

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cryo gets potentially ZERO

earnest patio
mystic halo
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honestly mi fu is kind of a wildcard

drifting quest
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you have to pick 3 from the top

mystic halo
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imo

terse furnace
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This isn't Hoyoverse, you can let go of crit

drifting quest
rotund yoke
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Mifu phys electro enabler ๐Ÿ’€

drifting quest
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no way its 3 fire chars

mystic halo
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I wonder how long it's going to be

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until we get whole teams that dip into both element and physical

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maybe a year?

rotund yoke
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Nah bro hear me out, they hid Fjall coz he's the 1st anniversary cryo dps

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๐Ÿ™

drifting quest
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id expect it gets tested around the 6-8mo mark

mystic halo
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wuling is going to last for a year or so

terse furnace
mystic halo
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shatter is just physical

drifting quest
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it'll be both wuling and valley 4 expansions till 2.0

terse furnace
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Didn't say it was a good example

drifting quest
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i think str over will is marginally better rng

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but it doesnt matter much

earnest patio
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We can't fix the first stat ahh

terse furnace
daring dove
mystic halo
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hitting 3/3 essence is just 1/24

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and if you are unlucky initially it doesnt matter that much

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it's trivial comapred to rolling substat

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in other games

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instead of crit being the assumed permanent factor

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in this game it's loaded damage% buffs

earnest patio
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Got this

drifting quest
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can put it on temporarily just dont upgrade it

earnest patio
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Okay

mystic halo
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holy shit a stanza in the shop

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it's my lucky day

earnest patio
mystic halo
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doesnt matter how many pips

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so long as the ability is right

drifting quest
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there's an additional rng chance for it to drop with more starting pips

earnest patio
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Oh

drifting quest
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mine was 1/1/1 so i wouldnt get your hopes up for a 3/3/2 or 3/3/3

earnest patio
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So all goes up to same level?

mystic halo
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cap is all same

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but highest possible start is 4/4/3

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which actually

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still doesnt reduce expected amount of fodder consumed by much at all

vernal torrent
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could i use last rite as my cryo applier and sub dps over snowshine?

drifting quest
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lmao ive never seen a 4

vernal torrent
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feels like snowshine does what last rite does but flat out worse

drifting quest
vernal torrent
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who would you recommend as a 4th?

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i need a cryo applier

mystic halo
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while I was farming for scathe I got a 3/4/2

drifting quest
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gilberta

mystic halo
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but unfortunately it had will instead of int

vernal torrent
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other than xaihi's every 2nd rotation application

vernal torrent
drifting quest
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you're stuck coping without gilberta

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that is for real

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lmao

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not a joke at all

vernal torrent
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this all i got

drifting quest
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you have nothing good for her then

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only subpar cope options

vernal torrent
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im literally only missing standard units and gilberta

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how are the other units ihave "Subpar" for her

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๐Ÿ˜‚

drifting quest
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yes and yvonnes viability is tied to gilberta and gilberta alone

mystic halo
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because gilb is the only half decent teammate she has

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and is the only way she can do anything notable

vernal torrent
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so what im hearing is

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we level laev and move to laev

mystic halo
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correct!

drifting quest
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or last rite hyper works

vernal torrent
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so when does my yvonne become good Sadge

mystic halo
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both laev and last rite are pretty cheap to make teams for

drifting quest
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when they release good cryo supports

mystic halo
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thankfully

vernal torrent
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i poured so much into her

drifting quest
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gilberta is potential woman #1
yvonne is potential woman #2

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both are waiting for better units to go with

vernal torrent
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good thing i love my laev

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can i run my already invested ardelia with her?

drifting quest
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1.1 and 1.2 has a 1/6 chance left of a new cryo enabler for yvonne

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so get praying

mystic halo
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gilberta at least has occasional employment in unhinged speedrunning and has a lot of unique traits there

earnest patio
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I have valley 4 pass as well so what to use them on like alderia weapon
Or thermal cutter of akekine matches any?

mystic halo
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yvonne is living on welfare without gilb bro

vernal torrent
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what would i run with laev + ardelia

drifting quest
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i wanted to pull gilb but then i needed to save 120 for rossi and now i need 240 for rossi and lycia

vernal torrent
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wolf boy and the 4* cutie?

drifting quest
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its so over

mystic halo
sudden lichen
mystic halo
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it explains where and when

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you would run what

drifting quest
drifting quest
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maybe some heat flavour

vernal torrent
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good thing my entire investment was only yvonne and ardelia

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so it isnt expensive to switch lol

mystic halo
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I genuinely think mi fu is going to be a wildcard

sudden lichen
manic blade
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please does anyone know BIS armor for laevatain at p4

mystic halo
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shit's going to come out of left field for SURE

drifting quest
drifting quest
earnest patio
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I don't get these complex words lol

drifting quest
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forgeborn = laevatein sig weapon

earnest patio
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Ic ic

sudden lichen
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I don't recall that, but maybe I missed it

earnest patio
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So what are u guys using extra money of valley 4 on

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Not on passes?

sudden lichen
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tickets and gifts

mystic halo
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buy out high tier mat selector box

drifting quest
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stockpile tickets for when i need them

mystic halo
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it's very good

drifting quest
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and that

earnest patio
earnest patio
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One

drifting quest
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no the essence guarantee passes

earnest patio
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Ohh

vernal torrent
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so do i use akekuri or lizard man

earnest patio
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Ic ic

drifting quest
mystic halo
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stockpiling essence ticket kind of doesnt do anything if youre not also stocking sanity pots that dont expire

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because you dont get enough sanity per week to use the tickets that you could buy that week

drifting quest
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im gonna stop when i have enough to sit on

mystic halo
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especially in v4

drifting quest
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rossi and lycia are gonna use them being valley 4 locals

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preplanning the grind

vernal torrent
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time to fully invest into my laev team

mystic halo
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I already got my gilb weapon essence as well

vernal torrent
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goodbye yvonne... i will miss you until you get your bis support

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but atleast i got you

mystic halo
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so it's big chilling

vernal torrent
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hello mommy laev

mystic halo
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time to fail every single etch!

vernal torrent
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welcome to the squad

drifting quest
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i whiffed the therm box so i have like nothing worth grinding

manic blade
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is one cycle ult that good on laevatain like I've alr artificed hella into heat

vernal torrent
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it seems im broke in exp

drifting quest
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starry essence i guess

vernal torrent
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oh dear....

drifting quest
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but obj x2 is lmao for essences

drifting quest
mystic halo
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I think my eyja sig is going to sit unlevelled for a while

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mm, stanza...

vernal torrent
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if i cant artifice immediately (cuz wuling eco is buns) should i run the right set for now at base values?

drifting quest
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yes

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artificing the left set right now is somewhat bait too

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since we dont know if its better in the long run

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(it probably will be but im coping that they made umbral monument harder)

mystic halo
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I already made it and even outside of the actual endgame stuff(where it's optimal in 2/3 of the fights though it isnt really indicative of anything)

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it's very nice for daily

vernal torrent
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does it need max artifice

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or only _1?

drifting quest
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yes

vernal torrent
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+1*

mystic halo
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bro the text is there man

drifting quest
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every ult gain one needs to be maxed

mystic halo
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read it

vernal torrent
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hm

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isnt maxing them very expensive tho

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hm hm

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sorry for the dumb q, but whats the max upgrade?

mystic halo
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it's not that bad if you want to break into the startup fund

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of 12k costing consumables

drifting quest
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my wuling bill income got bricked because i forgot to turn off my component farm so im behind on the buyouts

mystic halo
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but that is a decision yo uhave to make for yourself

drifting quest
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super frustrating

terse furnace
vernal torrent
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im capped on components....

drifting quest
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plus battery at 30/min

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is more than the 60/min produced

mystic halo
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you ahve to switch between parts and 12 battery/min

drifting quest
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i forgot to turn it off so i used all my xiranite and it bricked my battery

cursive seal
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for wuling, is it better to prioritize wuling batteries or yazhen syringes for trade with the limited amount of ferrium we get?

drifting quest
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lose all power > nothing works

mystic halo
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batteries use no ferrium

drifting quest
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metastorage for more ferrium

terse furnace
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This is something I actually am curious about, but do you guys actually use Wulfgard's enhanced battle?

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Since it recommends Clannibal

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Oh okay, so we're just using Clannibal for the stats lul

drifting quest
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obj is the alternative

vernal torrent
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i need a way to get more wuling bills

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im so poor

drifting quest
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waiting for breakpoint calc on his ult gain% to know if it does anything

terse furnace
terse furnace
mystic halo
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you rarely get to activate clannibal effect

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rarely, but it does happen

vernal torrent
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so cannibal just stat stick

mystic halo
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mostly

vernal torrent
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ic ic

daring dove
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Gilberta

vernal torrent
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im cujrrently eating out of paper bags as it is @daring dove

vernal torrent
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there will be no gilberta usage

terse furnace
terse furnace
vernal torrent
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i dont know how to read xdx trust

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reading is scary...

drifting quest
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no one reads it

mystic halo
vernal torrent
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i had 700k woah where did it all go

drifting quest
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its the same for akekuri

daring dove
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It's fine I was more laughing at someone actually put Gilberta as an option. Akekuri is the only correct choice. Klee_Derp

mystic halo
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it's all vibes based

drifting quest
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no one has done the math yet

terse furnace
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Tbh, that whack ahh energy gain Laev build is funny enough that I almost want to attempt it, but the resources to get there would be too much

mystic halo
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it's really good

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I have it

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and I enjoy my 110s dorito killtime with it

terse furnace
drifting quest
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ill probably commit to it too but i know like

mystic halo
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whether or not someone would recommend others do it too is subjective

drifting quest
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if i do the day after someone will find something better

cursive seal
drifting quest
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cant be worse than investing in yvonne!

vernal torrent
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this will do for now....

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until i get rich in wuling Sadge

drifting quest
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how many catalyst is it to guarantee all the ult gain upgrades again

terse furnace
mystic halo
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and their response on this was

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"just figure out the rotation lol it's not hard"

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end quote

drifting quest
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i talked to them earlier about the exact thing lmao

vernal torrent
drifting quest
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my dumbass didnt connect the dots that the 2 users with the same name were the same person

mystic halo
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Im not sure if that is a thing that will ever happen

vernal torrent
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how did i get so broke..

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and i havent even leveled nor invested intoa akekuri or wolf boy yet

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its so over

mystic halo
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6 digits money is better off than the majority of people on this game

steep fable
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hes talking about weapon xp i think

north glade
mystic halo
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yeah but most people have no xp or money

vernal torrent
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i need this battlepass to level up fast

drifting quest
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browser/mobile issue

vernal torrent
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and like, rn

drifting quest
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copy and paste the link into your browser to maybe unbrick it

mystic halo
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if I asked the person to come up with a fix for this

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knowing him so far

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he would come up with some unimaginably cursed shit

drifting quest
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its googles fault more than theirs

mystic halo
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like pasting it into an online powerpoint or something

earnest patio
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I just can't clear that lvl 90 material domain

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Any tips

vernal torrent
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and now i run out of stuff to sell, rah....

terse furnace
mystic halo
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he has make copy and download perms on the sheet

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so maybe downloading it as a file

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would fix it

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just open it locally

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better than shitass gsheet

earnest patio
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any tips for this i just cant clear

summer flicker
vernal torrent
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guys real question

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i need some peoples advise

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current investment : yvonne 90 ardelia 80 snowshine 60 xaihi 80

will laev and ardelia at 80, with the rest of the team in shambles outperform until i can invest in the side mfs?

mystic halo
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it will be fine cause the other two are just utility slave

drifting quest
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if you're not doing trims any team can clear anything

summer flicker
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you dont invest in side mfs

mystic halo
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all they need to do is to be able to wear gold gear

summer flicker
earnest patio
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I just can't

mystic halo
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you know I have seen a lot of people with the same problem

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with crisis drill

summer flicker
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just lvl 60 themPerliWheeze

mystic halo
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in the past 3 days

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but it's all for differnet reasons

vernal torrent
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back to the mines i go

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i aint even tried crisis drills lmao

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im still doing other stuff...

summer flicker
mystic halo
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this patch has another month to go

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there is plenty of time

vernal torrent
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why is there a time limit for something?

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or am i missing sth

summer flicker
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there no time limit PerliDerp

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no endgame, where the time limit thoPerliDerp

drifting quest
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trimmed medals have time limits

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on the clear time

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not a time limit to clear them before they go

vernal torrent
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oh is t rimmed medals for flex

drifting quest
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they never expire

vernal torrent
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oh wow

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so i can just f it ball with laev and ardelia

mystic halo
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dude electric trim dorito must be torture

vernal torrent
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since idc for allat

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i love laev from the story

vernal torrent
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so i wanna invest in her finallyge

earnest patio
vernal torrent
earnest patio
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i aint able to clear idk why

mystic halo
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is that stage the one with the uhh

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mega starmie boss?

earnest patio
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even following rotation

mystic halo
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or is that a different one

earnest patio
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the first one

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which gives lae mat

mystic halo
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no Im asking you what's in it

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what enemies are in it

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cause I dont remember

vernal torrent
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mega starmie xdx

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i just uh... buy the battlepass

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that fixes my lv 90 issues

summer flicker
vernal torrent
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i can eventually use these right guys

summer flicker
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ye, just invest them all into your mdps

mystic halo
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you will eventually beg for more of these

vernal torrent
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uh sir

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do i look like a fucking bank

mystic halo
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used to be

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430k

vernal torrent
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no SHOT

mystic halo
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last time

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yep

vernal torrent
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ok

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i can work with 100

mystic halo
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it was so much worse

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in cbt

summer flicker
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you mean m3

lyric stream
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The endmins gotta be rich surely we can take out a little loan

earnest patio
summer flicker
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hmm pretty cheap, only 65k PerliDerp

earnest patio
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I just can't do that idk why

summer flicker
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but 50 purple, so much purple

mystic halo
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m3 is also way cheaper than it used to be

earnest patio
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This one

vernal torrent
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wait if u consider that im dropping yvonne, then i got lucky on getting her perfect weapon etch right

earnest patio
vernal torrent
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over yvonnes

mystic halo
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ok I dont know then

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what's actually happening

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are you dying

summer flicker
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im just coping her teammates r releasing soon

mystic halo
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or are your teammate ai dying

summer flicker
vernal torrent
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im sorry yvonne i cant cope anymore

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you've treated me so well

earnest patio
vernal torrent
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but.... laev is right there...

summer flicker
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cuz i dont have anyone beside yvonne

vernal torrent
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but my yvonne is 90 with all skills lv 9!!!

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once her teammates release...

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i can finally use her

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she'll be ready!

earnest patio
vernal torrent
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good thing 1-60 is cheap exp

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i have too much of that

summer flicker
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have you set up your dijang, it give a bit of exp

vernal torrent
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butt i got it on purple gold ones

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they take 4ever

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still broke... oh dear

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but, it's a good start

summer flicker
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you can buy exp in valley stock shop

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if you havent alr

vernal torrent
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did that

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kek

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its okie

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he just needs a bit more

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then 80 ascend and hes done

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tryna work on her as far as i can first

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whats the skill level up prio for laev

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for a broke boy

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basic?

dawn patrol
mystic halo
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ult > skill

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those two first

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others are kinda whatever

vernal torrent
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ooo

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gotcha

drifting quest
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ult >= skill > combo >>> basic

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basically

vernal torrent
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once i get my laev to 90/90

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she should be better than my yvonne up front

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just gotta try for her essence

normal tangle
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bar is on the floor

vernal torrent
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lmao really? its that bad?

drifting quest
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in the context of endgame (aka trims) yes

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yvonne is not in a good spot

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for most people that is irrelevant because they're not doing trims and everything else is super easy

vernal torrent
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erm

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i dont have cannibal for my wolf boy

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do i do 2 more multis on the laev banner and pick it?

valid zealot
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Doesn's matter.

vernal torrent
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weapon banner*

valid zealot
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Wulf can go naked.

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Maybe some gear so he doesn't die.

drifting quest
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clannibal is not worth 2 arsenal draws

normal tangle
valid zealot
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Trimming with breach crush Endmin is draining my sanity (irl).

vernal torrent
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well now im cooked....

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anyone wanna donate some t credits?

valid zealot
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Go valley 4 stock

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Good source of money.

vernal torrent
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ehem....

valid zealot
vernal torrent
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haha....

drifting quest
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400k for 20k tcreds

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scam

vernal torrent
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welp

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time to go grind more

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with my sanity

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can i leave her 80 80 for the time being so i can go and 60 my other units to get them runnable?

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my resources.... ah...

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my laev

valid zealot
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It is what it is.

vernal torrent
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time to dip in essence

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and see if we hit

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i need wuling engraving permits for her... its joever

errant urchin
tranquil burrow
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im using estella instead of fluerite in a yvonne team with akekuri and gilberta, for some reason she perfroms better? she instantly shatters solidifaction witrh her combo skill and adds a lot of stagger. anyone else notice this?

pearl notch
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do we have calcs/comparisons on yvonne's weapon choices ?

drifting quest
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nothing too specific yet

pearl notch
neat snow
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Does anyone have a link to the gold gear for Laev team? All the guides I'm finding say different things. I have Wulf sorted with ult gear

drifting quest
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see team build channel pins

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make sure to read it

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fully

neat snow
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Okay I will look thank you

odd hull
drifting quest
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Recrisis l90
Beat rhodagn in 120s
Beat dorito or marble in 240s

drifting quest
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Yesnt

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It folds to investment

odd hull
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Some requirements?

drifting quest
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But is hard at lower investments

odd hull
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I have lv 90 laev
my gold gear is not upgraded.
She is p3
Wepoan also with +4 in int and atakc boost

drifting quest
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Should be doable

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Not too tough

stoic dragon
jovial grove
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what to do to deal any dmg

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post lv 30 or so the dmg is so low

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and fight so long and boring

safe sand
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craft gear

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make a good team comp

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upgrade talents and character levels

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learn how physical/arts reactions work

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etc

ripe parrot
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yo what the fuck why did my ginseng plot timers reset

safe sand
ripe parrot
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i just stole your trimmed medals kid

safe sand
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jokes on you i didnt have any to steal

ripe parrot
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๐Ÿ™

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don't think so

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which is sad

tight haven
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no

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you have to sequence them

ripe parrot
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so yeah I just waited 4 hours for ginseng only for it to reset

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i'll see you all in 4 hours

tight haven
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you can, however, bring one to the front and refresh its qte duration by reactivating its trigger condition again

ripe parrot
#

pretty much only realistic if your trigger is final strike

tight haven
ripe parrot
#

i am

tight haven
#

oh

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yeah they take like 12 hours total

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๐Ÿ’”

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without burdoshit

ripe parrot
#

oh is it 3 cycles?

tight haven
#

yep

ripe parrot
#

wow that's even worse

tight haven
#

it takes as long as tartpepper/reed rye

ripe parrot
#

i guess i'll just trim tomorrow

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at that point though I'll get my crowns

gritty olive
#

whats a good combo to test laev with?

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im thinking this assumign full energy laev:

ake e -> wulf c -> ake e -> surtr N5 -> ardelia c -> surtr c q e N5

midnight stirrup
#

Was looking at the teambuild guide just now

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Is there nobody in the game right now who utilises Oblivion (catalyst)

gritty olive
midnight stirrup
#

I guess we lack main dps catalyst users

tight haven
gritty olive
#

this seems very simple

gritty olive
midnight stirrup
#

Dont worry, well get a training dummy in 6 years

summer narwhal
#

So, is there an equivalent to RIIC channel here for base rotations?

gritty olive
#

should account for dijiang

summer narwhal
#

Good

gritty olive
summer narwhal
#

Dijiang is what I was referring to

thorn shore
#

how does arclights passive work? to get it to trigger on a boss i need to cast it twice? and on groups can it consume multiple at once to trigger with just one cast?

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is it even worth tryna trigger since u kinda want electrification to boost the teams damage

jovial grove
# safe sand upgrade talents and character levels

im using the sutr tream

sutre + signature
akekuri + thermite cutter
wulfguard + rational farawell
eiyq + chivalaric virtues (waiting for her sig)

all on gold recomended gear

sutr 80/90 with sword 85/90
9/9/9/10
didnt get resources to upgrade artis
essence +1 attack, +2 twlights
+1 twilight from weapon dupe

and i literally do no dmg

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like what the helll

safe sand
#

wdym by "post level 30" then

kindred sorrel
#

are you doing your rotation properly

thorn shore
jovial grove
safe sand
#

how big are the damage numbers you're hitting

jovial grove
#

everything after 30

thorn shore
#

how did you make it past level 31 with no damage

safe sand
#

how well do you understand your team

jovial grove
gritty olive
#

surely surtr is gearing this

jovial grove
gritty olive
#

*hyperbole

jovial grove
safe sand
#

v
^

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also works its whatever

gritty olive
jovial grove
gritty olive
storm oar
#

omg freedom...

safe sand
ripe parrot
kindred sorrel
gritty olive
storm oar
jovial grove
gritty olive
storm oar
#

And theres no way to raise the success rate?

jovial grove
thorn shore
kindred sorrel
#

if youre randomly pressing buttons, your buffs are probably all desynced

safe sand
#

i find that hard to believe

kindred sorrel
#

so none of your stuff is working properly

jovial grove
thorn shore
#

gets u in ult faster

storm oar
#

Like is there a way to raise this, and do we know the actual %

thorn shore
#

more ult more damage

gritty olive
#

since the timer for the res ignore starts when you acquire 4 magmas

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assumign you dont use tidefall you might want to delay surtrs enhanced for another skill from another person which can take some time = damage loss

safe sand
#

when doing enhanced skill as surtr your buff bar in the bottom left should be full af and the enemy should also ideally have a bunch of debuff icons

gritty olive
#

but you can wait for me calcing this properly good

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currently unbuffed she goes like this with the rotation i sent

kindred sorrel
#

you can play however you want if you dont want to learn and "copy paste" rotations, but its kinda wild that you'd come here and complain about damage when you refuse to rotate properly and are likely dropping buffs/debuffs left and right

thorn shore
#

im just impressed with how he was clearing level 31+ mobs with no damage

mystic halo
#

it's worthless

safe sand
#

is this according to the above calc?

kindred sorrel
#

ult charge set is best copium

safe sand
#

like whos saying this stuff

mystic halo
#

this was established back in cbt and everyone who knows what they are talking about is on the same page in regards to this

safe sand
#

i see

mystic halo
#

you get a small edge in atk

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but lose in average damage per % multiplier

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even with boosts from food

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it is not worth

gritty olive
#

opal since youre here

kindred sorrel
#

has anyone calc'd charge set vs standard hot set

thorn shore
#

who need whoever was calcing this stuff on the endfield dev team to step forward, clearly they knew her meta set

gritty olive
thorn shore
#

its what displays when u preview her on banner kekw

mystic halo
#

charge set dpsp is 66-75% of hot work's depending on pot situation & supports

wintry hazel
#

Opal

kindred sorrel
#

is that higher with higher pot, or is that lower with higher pot

wintry hazel
#

Is it fine even tho my avy only does 23-28k dmg each spear on stagger

mystic halo
#

it is better at high dupe

kindred sorrel
jovial grove
gritty olive
kindred sorrel
#

i'll stick to it then with p5 surtr

wintry hazel
mystic halo
#

it's a very good set

kindred sorrel
#

its comfy af to use

mystic halo
#

are you going for trim or something

ripe parrot
#

i never found the combat below exploration level 7 to be tedious

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in fact, even 7 isn't bad

gritty olive
#

300 * 0.85 = 255, and this is the same rotation with tidelinked removed

wintry hazel
kindred sorrel
wintry hazel
#

It's just that my perli is on oblivion build

mystic halo
#

what is that meant to be

kindred sorrel
#

this would be the optimal set for p4+ charge set right?

fluid frost
#

any1 know what the highest dmg instance issteamhappy

gritty olive
wintry hazel
gritty olive
mystic halo
#

uhh given that really barebones timeline

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it's fine

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if youre just trying to verify calcs

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or something

gritty olive
#

yeahyeah

mystic halo
#

I mean so long as the two players do the same things

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it shouldnt matter very much

#

what exactly the contents are

gritty olive
kindred sorrel
gritty olive
#

tide fall

kindred sorrel
#

oh lmao

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but why remove tidefall chest instead of xiranite gloves

safe sand
#

are damage taken/damage dealt/susc./breach all different multipliers

kindred sorrel
#

isnt hot gloves better than whatever alternate chest piece

gritty olive
#

tidelinked bishop clothes is the one that mayors was using xdd

wintry hazel
#

Yo is marble act hard for all team or just lightning

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This takes me 7mins to beat

gritty olive
gritty olive
safe sand
gritty olive
#

atk% on weapon buffs base atk, normal atk% goes to normal atk% buffs

safe sand
#

how should i parse this on thermite cutter

#

former is base atk, latter is normal atkbonus?

gritty olive
#

id recommend double checking your attributed

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send a screenshot to verify

safe sand
#

idk how to read this lol

gritty olive
#

588 * (16% + 9%)

safe sand
#

i see

gritty olive
#

wait just a min thinkChamp

kindred sorrel
safe sand
gritty olive
#

yeah thats onpoint then

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but idk if something like thermite cutter affects base atk%

wintry hazel
#

What's more dps impact

safe sand
wintry hazel
gritty olive
kindred sorrel
gritty olive
#

two prerequisite rotations lead you to 300

safe sand
gritty olive
#

oh i havent reached the point that i can measure damage changes

safe sand
#

just level your characters and skills until it becomes prohibitively expensive then look for essence lines that seem really important

wintry hazel
wintry hazel
#

So I'm asking which one has bigger dps impact

safe sand
#

laev sorry

wintry hazel
#

Avy

safe sand
#

jet?

wintry hazel
#

Yh

wintry hazel
#

If char lv gives lower dps impact

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Then I'm going to keep avy for lv 80

gritty olive
wintry hazel
#

Considering there will be a future electric dps

safe sand
#

wow avywenna skills are litearlly just damage this sucks

#

hm

stoic dragon
wintry hazel
#

It's mainly battle skill, but idk if crowned also gives big dps changes

safe sand
#

do you have supporting weapons/charaskills leveled accordingly

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idk what elec buffs itself with

wintry hazel
#

Perlica on dmg build sadly

safe sand
#

mmmm

wintry hazel
#

Ardelia w Sig kinda poop

safe sand
#

did you pick detonation unit or nah

wintry hazel
#

Obliv

safe sand
#

ic

wintry hazel
#

I don't really want high invest on avy but if I can get trim medal then

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I will js do it

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Rn I just want to see which one gives higher dps% increase so I'll try running the boss again and see if I'm able to get it

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So I don't want a lot mats into avy too

safe sand
#

sadly i have no idea how much investment avy teams need for trims, i haven't seen any on youtube for aggelomoriai so ๐Ÿ—ฟ

#

i assume tentacle phase is problematic?

wintry hazel
#

This guy keep tp and my spears are gone before he staggers

thorn shore
#

do u just not use arclights bskill

#

its tempting for her passive proc but then, unless ur p5 and got first stack at start of fight with precharged ult

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idk if ur gonna have perlica electrification ready for big burst

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and perlica runs like crazy amounts of arts intensity so its really nice to have

terse furnace
#

Is this even worth grabbing? The only person I've seen able to run this is DPS Perlica

heavy fossil
#

itโ€™s more than a 10 pull for a sig. Personally I find it difficult to justify spending my arsenal tickets on anything else for now

#

esp since if I get an early I donโ€™t wanna have to do extra pulls just to get sig

thorn shore
#

ye in the future once everybodys ran out of the initial launch arsenal ticket infusion

#

its gonna be a problem

#

i dont think 120 pulls worth will guarantee u a sig

#

still better than having a entirely diff banner for sig tho so im not complaining

terse furnace
heavy fossil
#

i might break that rule for thermite cause itโ€™s just so useful

terse furnace
#

That's why I was asking about Obliv lul, but ig it's not on the level of Thermite

heavy fossil
terse furnace
heavy fossil
terse furnace
heavy fossil
#

guessing theyโ€™ll just be rotating non-sig 6* weapons weekly so no rush

thorn shore
thorn shore
#

im sitting at 12k ish

#

without much pulling on limited

wintry hazel
#

Myself perlica oblivion electro team user

heavy fossil
wintry hazel
#

I prefer perlica on support slave

thorn shore
#

obliv is probably good for perlica in gilberta elec team comp

terse furnace
thorn shore
#

since shes not art bursting for det unit

heavy fossil
gritty olive
wintry hazel
#

I regret taking oblivion instead therm cutter

gritty olive
terse furnace
gritty olive
#

just dont do it again in wuling

wintry hazel
#

WW is better

terse furnace
#

What's WW?

heavy fossil
wintry hazel
#

Wanderer5*

terse furnace
wintry hazel
#

No

terse furnace
#

Avywenna is a polearm user

wintry hazel
#

U make perlica as art intensity slave

terse furnace
#

Oh, you mean for Avy

wintry hazel
terse furnace
#

not as a weapon

#

yeah okay

#

I was talking about possibly picking up JET from the box lol

heavy fossil
#

yeah they prob replied to the wrong message

#

or misunderstood

terse furnace
#

I'm debating if I wanna pull for Gilberta cuz I like Angelina from AK, but then I'd have to ration out my pulls between Gilberta and Yvonne's weapons

#

(I already have Yvonne)

wintry hazel
#

U should consider gil

heavy fossil
#

idk if there is any team where oblivion is best

valid zealot
#

If u want to run Yvonne you need Gil.

heavy fossil
#

but seems like itโ€™s not a worthy investment

terse furnace
#

Waifu > meta is my philosophy

wintry hazel
terse furnace
wintry hazel
#

I mean yvone really need gil

terse furnace
#

And you misunderstodo my statement - If I get Gil, I will run her with Yvonne, but Yvonne is not the reason I'm pulling for Gil

#

This is kinda annoying btw, why'd they make this weapon banner last 3 banners to make it convenient for people who lose the 50/50 on Laev, but didn't give us the Gilb/Yvonne weapon banners for 4/5 banners respectively?

#

Like, the mechanic is good, but Gilb and Yvonne users are kinda suffering for a while

heavy fossil
chrome flax
#

^

terse furnace
chrome flax
#

they could just run multiple wpns

terse furnace
#

How did you guys misconstrue my statement so bad ๐Ÿ’€

calm zinc
#

I want to talk about gear set for Last Rite, so why literally everyone recommends "Tide Surge" set, if Type 50 Yinglung noticeably better? It's as if no one studies the game themselves, and they just follow each other's opinions.
Just test it lol. I have two "Type 50 Yinglung Knife T1", and "Type 50 Yinglung Heavy Armor", also "Tide Surge" gloves.

heavy fossil
cerulean oxide
terse furnace
#

And yes, LR's ult does a lot of damage

normal tangle
#

who else can even use that

terse furnace
#

I can't comment, I don't use Da Pan lol

twilit quail
#

copium pog set

manic blade
#

Do you use laev ults on the tentacles in phase 1 or save?

terse furnace
normal tangle
calm zinc
terse furnace
calm zinc
terse furnace
#

Are you taking into consideration that LR's ult takes advantage of this effect but combo skill cannot because this susceptibility only applies after Cryo has been consumed?

#

Ult is a lot of damage

calm zinc
#

what does it have to do with gear set?

#

didn't you notice ultimate dmg bonus?

normal tangle
#

math argument with not a single number in sight โค๏ธ

#

vibescrafting

heavy fossil
dry kindle
#

Tide surge set

#

aether chest

#

Fuck off

#

Yw

manic blade
#

got all the medals :3

terse furnace
#

oh interesting, detonation unit is really good for Xaihi in a Cryo comp

#

that makes sense

rugged kiln
manic blade
#

where do you guys farm fillets for ginseng

terse furnace
#

I don't think it can be automated

manic blade
#

but like are there certain hotspots best for it or good routes

terse furnace
rugged kiln
heavy fossil
terse furnace
heavy fossil
terse furnace
wild meteor
#

Hey all whats the best armour set for Leavatain in a Leava+Wulf+Antal+Adelia team?

Hot work+tide chest?

heavy fossil
gritty olive
terse furnace
manic blade
#

Gonna get angie once calcs come out that 0 3 set ult gain one cycle ult laeva out dmgsโ€ฆ

rugged kiln
terse furnace
dry kindle
#

Gg account damage already ๐Ÿ”ฅ

heavy fossil
strong warren
#

i have 1 single ginseng to my name left would it help me get the trim

terse furnace
strong warren
#

for the next 12 hours

heavy fossil
#

that are still good for dps

terse furnace
blazing lake
#

@rare rover you got any ideas for shaving time for rot

heavy fossil
#

cause like ember ult and bs are heat but basic and combo are physical

blazing lake
#

i can def shave hella time

terse furnace
blazing lake
heavy fossil
#

I find her ult kind of lackluster from a dps standpoint

dry kindle
rugged kiln
terse furnace
rugged kiln
heavy fossil
#

but unfortunately I am not at endgame yet so I canโ€™t experiment with sets

rugged kiln
#

and sundered prince buffs stagger too right?

heavy fossil
#

only final strike sadly

#

25 > 28 stagger

blazing lake
dry mason
#

time to do yours

dry kindle
dry mason
blazing lake
gritty olive
manic blade
gritty olive
rare rover
gritty olive
#

if anyone is also willing to do this rot(assuming max energy surtr already) let me know

dry mason
#

now create new account and do with P0

manic blade
rare rover
rugged kiln
rare rover
#

Yea

#

Cause of the background

blazing lake
gritty olive
#

@manic blade are you also willing to do some tests

blazing lake
#

because that move takes up a lot of time

rare rover
#

It does

#

I almost got her but she flew

dry kindle
#

Another slab build has hit the building

blazing lake
#

otherwise its nearly impossible to get a good time

manic blade
split gust
#

is Da Pan a better crusher than endmin in physical comp? or do they perform different stuff?

rare rover
gritty olive
manic blade
gritty olive
#
  1. surtr does not have enhanced gear(armor kit gloves)
  2. allies dont have any buffing gear or weapon
  3. damage done against a valley iv enemy(wuling has a small atk buff), that ideally survives a small full rotation
#

if your surtr has an essenced weapon we can sync your weapon to match with the sim ones so like the video recording should include potential -> weapon level -> attributes screen -> fighting rhodgan -> send to me ami

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the rotation goes like this: ake e -> wulf combo -> ake e -> surtr n5 -> eyja c -> surtr c q e N5

#

something like this ami

wild meteor
#

I'm still farming the mats and level unlocks, but is this good for my team (leava+wulf+antal+adelia)? I'm just trying to get to clearing level 90 stuff to farm levelling/skill materials -

Leava - Hot work gloves&kit + Tide chest?
Wulf - Hot work chest&kit + Lynx gloves?
Antal - Eternal gloves&kit + Tide chest?
Adelia - Lynx chest&kit + Eternal Gloves?

dry kindle
#

Wulf is ult spam

ripe parrot
#

I DID IT FUCK YOU MARBLE WOMAN

#

I DID IT WITHOUT GINSENG TOO

#

I'M FREE

dry kindle
ripe parrot
#

no u

icy ginkgo
#

broooo

ripe parrot
#

you can do it

#

i believe in you

icy ginkgo
#

this is hard with avywenna team

wintry hazel
dry kindle
surreal bay
#

I kinda wanna see the lore of these thing get dried up on land like we can litteraly spray water on them for reward PerliStareYou

icy ginkgo
#

ill try rn

#

see what my best time is

wintry hazel
#

Atp

#

Takes me 5-7 mins to beat

icy ginkgo
#

ill make it happen

wintry hazel
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

ripe parrot
dry kindle
ripe parrot
dry kindle
#

Oh that guy is here

uneven garnet
ripe parrot
#

all 3 trimmed medals

uneven garnet
dry kindle
#

@frigid vector slab gives 150 atk at p0 max for the low cost of griefing your rotation and every other stat

ripe parrot
#

120s for rhod, 240s for fidget spinner and marble woman

wintry hazel
#

I did rhod tho

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

noble tapir
icy ginkgo
#

this is hard for electric team

dry kindle
#

Can someone sum laev comp damage numbers

wintry hazel
gritty olive
#

i will

wintry hazel
#

U said u gonna make it happen

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

What even ur spear dmg

gritty olive
#

does someone here wants to test my damage numbers

wintry hazel
#

If u do lesser than me then u wouldn't even get closecthere

icy ginkgo
#

i still need to max avy's essence and gear

wintry hazel
#

Also don't forget to crown

dry kindle
#

Fuck it we ball

icy ginkgo
#

highest i could get with all buffs and shit is 48k

#

on small spear i forgot about the ex spear