#theorycrafting

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gritty olive
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I still hve ccb4 r880 in arknights, genshin is columbina sig since im at 35 pity

thorn ibex
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alright
art intensity feels like you cant figure itout without explicit numbers ngl

gritty olive
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And i still dont have like energy and stagger values

drifting quest
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Want to make sure im not deluded saying she has none right now

gritty olive
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Ive been preconditioned damage% doesnt work on noncrit interactions like transformative reactions in EM and SBE in hsr

thorn ibex
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i doubt dmg% buff those aswell

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tho usually the formula for those dmg is very convoluted

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so backward engineering it will be very complicated

bronze plume
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they nerfing shii now

gritty olive
valid zealot
gritty olive
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Also the atk% buff thats on weapoms is a BASE ATK BUFF

valid zealot
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Do I even bother Da Pan over Endmin if no pot5 no sig.

gritty olive
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BASE ATK BUFF%, so it doesnt go with the normal atk buffs

valid zealot
bronze plume
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if you want higher dmg yes if not no

valid zealot
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Sure.

drifting quest
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Wait for tangtang atp

gritty olive
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Whitenight niva has dmg% for arts so xdd

bronze plume
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frying pan big bonk yes

drifting quest
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She could be as soon as 1.1 first banner and is likely replacing da pan spot

bronze plume
valid zealot
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I'm staying with Industries CEO™ then.

thorn ibex
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okay wait

drifting quest
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The rich get richer

thorn ibex
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if that’s the case why the dmg numbers are so low?

atomic lake
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ja

thorn ibex
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no exponential scaling with crit?

drifting quest
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Cryo society in shambles

gritty olive
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Crit doesnt exist as a workable stat currently thinkChamp

bronze plume
bronze plume
drifting quest
bronze plume
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2 of which are supports 1 is irrelevant

drifting quest
gritty olive
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Only for yvonne currently, but should be compensated by lower scalings

thorn ibex
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but like cutting the numbers 3-4 folds is kinda weird

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unless MV is just low? i havent accually looked at numbers yet

drifting quest
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Alesh and estella are more physical than cryo
Snowshine is not good
Yvonne exists
LR is the greediest unit in the game
Xaihi is carried by just having buffs to offer

gritty olive
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Let me check genshin mvs rq

thorn ibex
bronze plume
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imagine my shock

thorn ibex
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~18s

bronze plume
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when xaihi is good because

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she buffs units

vagrant sparrow
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so which team do yall like with laev so far

thorn ibex
gritty olive
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Pretty low than lets say flins

bronze plume
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why are we theory crafting genshin here

thorn ibex
gritty olive
gritty olive
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I think its for the better than having astounding powercreep

thorn ibex
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^ despite ludicrously adding stats

bronze plume
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wym why

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the number calculates and health stats of thing are just lower

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then hoyoshit games

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they give enemies like 10 million hp

valid zealot
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Is Da Pan that good or Endmin just clunky.

thorn ibex
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#

bro

valid zealot
drifting quest
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Bit of both

bronze plume
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of course they going to have to make hit scaling hit millions of dmg

thorn ibex
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i’m trying to figure out why

bronze plume
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why what

gritty olive
thorn ibex
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to reverse engineer formula

bronze plume
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why they made it so enemies in endfield dont have millions of hp

gritty olive
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What formula are you reverse engineering? Damage

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Arknights dont have gazillion hp

valid zealot
thorn ibex
# bronze plume why what

what makes damage number lower than other games despite having the formula very famorable for big numbers

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why are you butting in this conversation anyways?

manic blade
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hmm well what's the % for one cycle laev at p0?

bronze plume
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because its a stupid conversation

gritty olive
thorn ibex
dry kindle
bronze plume
gritty olive
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This is the sarkaz furnacesidefables buff anyways

drifting quest
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Including eps

gritty olive
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On d18 t3 egg + anasa karma she has 1.4m eff hp

bronze plume
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still sad i accidentally got rid of my clannibal essence

valid zealot
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Is rot with Da Pan diff or just whatever the f I was doing with Endmin.

gritty olive
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Wtf tomimi,dev doesnt involve anasa karma

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Garbage site

thorn ibex
bronze plume
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rot?
whys bro doing scarlet rot

valid zealot
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What scarlet rot.

bronze plume
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all i said is the reason dmg numbers arent high

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is because they simply dont need to be

dry kindle
halcyon aurora
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so based on calcs
what teams are doing the most dps in terms of the usual hypercarry + stacking comp?

bronze plume
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why would we do 1mil dmg to enemies with like 100k hp max

thorn ibex
bronze plume
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bosses in ef compared to genshin arent in the millions

bronze plume
valid zealot
bronze plume
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its simply because HG didnt want dmg numbers to be insanely high it aint that complicated

dry kindle
thorn ibex
dry kindle
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Breach is bullshit

bronze plume
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sigh

fading fog
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last pan standing (lvl 90 was fucking hard)

bronze plume
valid zealot
vagrant sparrow
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do i need multiple copies of the bis stat or just one is enough

dry kindle
valid zealot
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So the "bs" is good.

bronze plume
valid zealot
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Kay kay.

drifting quest
dry kindle
vagrant sparrow
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cool thx

valid zealot
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Love you.

dry kindle
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45% vuln

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On arts intensity build

vagrant sparrow
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sworce did u pull laev and her sig

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go pull now

dry kindle
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No

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I will play the only comp in the game that requires hands

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(That isnt disabled by default)

valid zealot
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Which is?

vagrant sparrow
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and that is..........

dry kindle
gritty olive
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Im gonna bring my laptop again later to uni

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So that i could calc more

valid zealot
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You're just a gooner.

bronze plume
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anyone who plays either cryo team is a gooner

gritty olive
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Also for people with arts dmg% weapon can you test reactions

bronze plume
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theres no inbetween

gritty olive
dry kindle
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I guess electric also takes hands to use

bronze plume
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yvonne and last rite where made for the goon

drifting quest
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Mi fu and fangyi about to turn electric from highest skill comp into wheelchair mimimi comp

dry kindle
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But it's electeic so

drifting quest
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Just wait

dry kindle
bronze plume
gritty olive
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Then why arts dmg

bronze plume
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arts dmg just increase the dmg that character does of the element not the reaction no

gritty olive
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Should be under normal dmg%

bronze plume
dry kindle
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Arts increases all non whatever the fuck phys colour damage is

gritty olive
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Theres no arts element

bronze plume
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phys is just like white/grey

drifting quest
dry kindle
bronze plume
vagrant sparrow
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Do i pull for Laev weapon or settle for BP

dry kindle
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Sig

vagrant sparrow
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its only 8% hmmm

bronze plume
dry kindle
vagrant sparrow
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apparently at max dupes bp is only 8% worse than her sig

drifting quest
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Shu at home
Nature defender

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Is it over

bronze plume
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you gonna get max dupe of the bp weapon gang?

vagrant sparrow
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arent we all eventually

bronze plume
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i mean we have no idea how the bp will work in future patches

outer ermine
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auto farm w fangyi PerliStare PerliStareYou

bronze plume
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rn the weapons the bp gives is the 2nd bis for all 3 limited

drifting quest
bronze plume
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why would they keep it like that in the next bp when laevtain will be gone

drifting quest
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Iirc paid irl money one you get 2 or 3 in total

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Idk for freemium

daring dove
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Ardelia's potential 3 seems pretty busted in testing. I'm not 100% sure how the maths works but the number of healing sheep she's spawning seems nearly doubled. Alongside her potential 2 your team becomes pretty much unkillable.

manic blade
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holy shit i did it

drifting quest
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Trim time

outer ermine
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PerliFumo gl trim

bronze plume
ripe parrot
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it's pretty impossible to trim the fidget spinner if you 2 cycle phase 2, right?

dry kindle
vagrant sparrow
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maybe i pull then

dry kindle
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I think it's kinda safe to assume next bp will not have same weps as well

bronze plume
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which her ult non buffed will do anyway

daring dove
bronze plume
vagrant sparrow
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alright we in there

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downside : we broke for next weapon banners

daring dove
ripe parrot
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is the real strat for triagg just to save everything for p2 to stagger chain

daring dove
vagrant sparrow
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im skipping both

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so maybe im safe

bronze plume
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im waiting for rossi now

vagrant sparrow
bronze plume
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and if she isnt a heat vanguard they suck fr fr

outer ermine
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PerliDerp so close to killing rhod, just need 100k dmg more from combo and ult will kill and skip phase

manic blade
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we skippin gilberta?

bronze plume
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i am

outer ermine
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ard sig surely +100k

vagrant sparrow
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ngl its kinda cool that weapon banner uses a diff currency

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i feel less bad

outer ermine
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after dorito

bronze plume
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if they readded the gamemode that gave the arsenal tokens each week it would feel nice

outer ermine
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PerliWheeze id rather not deal w tentacles

manic blade
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marble feels twice as hard as the other 2

daring dove
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I was looking a Gilberta's kit earlier because usually it's not ideal to skip support characters.... But it's pretty bad Ardelia is just her superior in almost every metric except grouping. But why do you need grouping when you have Laevatain to hit them from 10 meters away anyway. Klee_Derp

manic blade
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i mean she'd replace akekuri but akekuri rotations are smoother and combos are easy

vagrant sparrow
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yall not using antal?

shut cobalt
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uhh, does he need ultimate gain artificing like laev does?

daring dove
bronze plume
shut cobalt
manic blade
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I think akekuri variant has the edge tbh but it's probably close

bronze plume
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literally all 3 of my supports for laev has this on

manic blade
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Depends how aoe focused the endgame is

bronze plume
shut cobalt
manic blade
bronze plume
bronze plume
manic blade
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like they get diminishing returns so better to swap one of them?

shut cobalt
bronze plume
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im not the guy to ask for that i do not care for min maxxing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

dry kindle
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Unless you wanna do maths to check breakpoints

vagrant sparrow
bronze plume
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1 done

dry kindle
shut cobalt
shut cobalt
daring dove
shut cobalt
shut cobalt
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so only akekuri is worth leveling for the extra sp?

dry kindle
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Not enough to matter

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Unless they're a dps

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They stay 60/80

shut cobalt
daring dove
vagrant sparrow
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so yall not using antal for lev LifengThink

manic blade
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I was tearing my eyes out trying to finish the last boss on stygian dire earlier today

chrome flax
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antal WHO

shut cobalt
# dry kindle Yep

question tho, between doing artificing for the remaining 90 intelligence points for 500 and leveling her to 100 + artificing, which is better material wise?

dry kindle
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Neither 🗿

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You get like 400

shut cobalt
dry kindle
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Good enough tm

bronze plume
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how you leveling her to 100

daring dove
bronze plume
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thats the real question

manic blade
dry kindle
shut cobalt
bronze plume
dry kindle
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Ew

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Not even p1

bronze plume
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sadly not yet

manic blade
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what even is BIS gear for wulf

gritty olive
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what does lynx slab do again

dry kindle
chrome flax
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p5

gritty olive
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main%?

dry kindle
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Main attribute%

shut cobalt
bronze plume
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theres no point investing into a 2nd team anyway

tight haven
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are you trying to build a second team just for fun or

gritty olive
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arknights starts from p1 to p6 xdd
idk why they botched the wordings to be from p0 to p5 but what do i know

vagrant sparrow
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is this set better than hot work for this dud

outer ermine
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didnt u get crazy lucky w ardelia on beta beef PerliWheeze

shut cobalt
dry kindle
bronze plume
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for now you dont tho

tight haven
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please understand

shut cobalt
tight haven
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small colonial corporation

manic blade
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1 2 3 4 5 :3

dry kindle
bronze plume
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i really dont care about having or not having pots its a gacha at the end of the day its not that deep

chrome flax
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woah

outer ermine
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ig it was someone else

bronze plume
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i have max pot eyjaberry in arknights anyway

daring dove
# dry kindle

Ardelia potentials are low key the best thing you can get in my opinion. She'll still be good long after the rest of the standard banner has been power crept, depends if you care about vertical invesmtnet in a game that doesn't need it. 108_yaehmm

outer ermine
tight haven
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it is a bit cope to start talking about whos most futureproof rn tbf

outer ermine
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og matters more PerliWheeze

bronze plume
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rn im just trying to get p1 laevatain

tight haven
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we literally have no way of knowing

bronze plume
tight haven
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not untrue

manic blade
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it was about 1/4 the cost as hoyo slop max cons

bronze plume
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nearly 5k atk on laev

bronze plume
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yeah thats just luck

tight haven
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it is purely luck but it was nice not to have to buy the most expensive pack like 12 times

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for a single max pot

gritty olive
tight haven
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as opposed to a hoyo game

bronze plume
manic blade
bronze plume
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roughly assuming average luck they are about the same

tight haven
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yeah 1/4 is like no 50/50s lost and avg 6* rate(?)

gritty olive
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max for endfield is 1200, genshin 1260

manic blade
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now laevatain skin when o.O

daring dove
tight haven
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idt theyre doing skins in endfield

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not for a while

bronze plume
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hopefully they dont do skins for a long time

manic blade
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I want skins

bronze plume
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waste of time make game better first

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of course the whale wants to be able to spend more money

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imagine my shock

tight haven
grave flame
bronze plume
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idk what that even means

gritty olive
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think of need to find ways to induce artificial scarcity for people to spend methinks

tight haven
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the laev quest makes me a bit more hopeful about the future of their storytelling direction

tight haven
tight haven
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its still pretty dog

manic blade
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add pity carry over and gg

grave flame
bronze plume
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its good when looking at it from a brand new gacha game release

gritty olive
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me with a worse set of games 🙏

manic blade
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at least limbus is super f2p friendly

gritty olive
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im not spending in all of them DuduStare

tight haven
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i really do hope they realize most people are tired of the genshinesque exploration and progression system (if we get abyss im going to cringe)

manic blade
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THEN MY BRAIN COULD NOT LOL

bronze plume
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am i the odd one out

tight haven
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no i think this is most people

manic blade
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i 100% er and night reign dw

manic blade
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I GOT MARBLE READ LIKE A BOOK ER DODGES TOO EZ

daring dove
tight haven
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the kind of exploration i enjoy the most in akef is the stuff that encourages you to use aic

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making liquid xiranite was a basic but cool step

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the one where you have to pump out a flooded cave was cool

bronze plume
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yeah none of this find 200 chests or 50 aurylene shit

tight haven
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the chests and aurylene just give me a headache

bronze plume
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i left that shit back in genshin bro

tight haven
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especially when theyre just EVERYWHERE

fierce charm
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Which should I upgrade

manic blade
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assuming you get optimal factories set up you'll have infinite currency to spend on aurylne and treasure compasses

tight haven
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i dont feel like appreciating the genuinely very awesome world design when i have to be on the lookout for chests because the devs decided the Endministrator of Endfield Industries has to be out here looting other peoples shit

knotty lance
manic blade
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i have 8 mil and don't even know what to buy in valley 4

bronze plume
gritty olive
bronze plume
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its just in ef i dont have to look up a interactive map for them

midnight stirrup
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Damn, yall hate looking for chests?

daring dove
# bronze plume am i the odd one out

Not played FF7 Rebith, reminds me a lot of Ark Knights Enfield. Or rather Ark Knights took a lot of inspriation from it. Especially the combat system.

tight haven
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its fun to a point

tight haven
manic blade
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low key and just spam essences

tight haven
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id rather buy out gifts tbh

jovial grove
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naming:
casual --> arknights
noob --> endfield
regular --> akef
big brain --> ak239

manic blade
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low key i thought abt saving up for the dijang showcase thingies LOL

tight haven
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the only chests that feel nice to find are the new ones

manic blade
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too fire

tight haven
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that give 150 beryls

gritty olive
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ive figured out how to do damage for surtr

tight haven
bronze plume
tight haven
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buying weekly discounted tickets and gifts then saving for the collectibles

tight haven
gritty olive
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since i keep track of her normal atk being up to N5 while her ult BA being up to N4, i just make the enhanced N5 scaling at 0 xdd

tight haven
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i think all chests give you like uhhhh

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40? pulls now

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dont quote me on that

manic blade
tight haven
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its a very large amount and the chest placements are literally all the same

gritty olive
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also on a simple surtr rotation, when do i get four magmastacks

midnight stirrup
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Going pro in a dead game

tight haven
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they just buffed their rewards all around

manic blade
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gg

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it doesn't even pay well LOL

bronze plume
chrome flax
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im a pro bronze

tight haven
grave flame
tight haven
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which one

bronze plume
manic blade
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hsr story too peak idc

daring dove
tight haven
bronze plume
tight haven
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they nerfed etchspace chests??

bronze plume
manic blade
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genshin I just have sunken cost fallacy LOL

bronze plume
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now its 1

tight haven
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are you sure

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wait huh

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which rifts are we talking

manic blade
tight haven
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was this a cbt1 thing

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i genuinely dont remember chests ever giving origeo in cbt2

bronze plume
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cbt2

gritty olive
tight haven
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whats a rift

stoic dragon
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It’s not even close PerliWaaaaa

bronze plume
gritty olive
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wait so beef

tight haven
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the... blue...

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OH

bronze plume
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the rifts my guy

tight haven
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wait no beef.

gritty olive
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she gets two from her first N5, when akekuri skills and wulfgard does combo

tight haven
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the temp energy alluvia never gave origeo

bronze plume
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they did

gritty olive
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she gets one from her combo skill, so thats three

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where do i get the fourth one?

daring dove
gritty olive
bronze plume
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oh yeah ard doesnt make one huh

gritty olive
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you can refer to this rotation

manic blade
ripe parrot
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no, ard does

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corrosion pop counts

gritty olive
tight haven
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yeah but thats 3

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then you full seq twice

manic blade
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cheap 2k 244hz

outer ermine
bronze plume
outer ermine
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welp i do kill 2morrow w sig tho

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yey

bronze plume
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i remember cuz in cbt2 i was hunting them down for the sanity refreshes

tight haven
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im ngl beef i do not remember this being the case

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maybe it was but i remember them just being the gold chests

midnight stirrup
bronze plume
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they where the gold chest yes

safe sand
manic blade
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what does the trimming medal even do

ripe parrot
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flex

safe sand
tight haven
ripe parrot
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your medals look cool

daring dove
# manic blade cheap 2k 244hz

Ah fair, I figured you'd be buying every possible edge you could. Not that it'll fix a lack of skill which is what a lot of people try to compensate for with expensive gear.

bronze plume
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but instead of oroberyl they gave 2 origeo now its just 1 origeo

manic blade
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like does it look different?

tight haven
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its not a huge brag but it does take a bit of effort so

tight haven
ripe parrot
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yes it looks shinier

tight haven
stoic dragon
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and it has a green stuff

tight haven
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this is how the trimmed umbral monument medals look too

manic blade
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thats fire I'll go for it in a week or so after a bit more min maxing

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also i need to just farm ult before the fight LOL

ripe parrot
# tight haven

you prefer ard over antal for the fidget spinner fight?

tight haven
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i did a temp alluvia like 2 days ago

orchid agate
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yoo should i upgrade all of em?

tight haven
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it just gave beryls

bronze plume
gritty olive
tight haven
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okay im fucking

manic blade
tight haven
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fried

ripe parrot
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i was running antal at the moment but i hate the fidget spinner

tight haven
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idr

stoic dragon
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i cant get marble medal PerliWaaaaa

tight haven
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ill make a note to check this tomorrow

daring dove
tight haven
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oh yeah i should try for marble again

manic blade
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marble is such a fucked fight

gritty olive
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ok help out a person here

gritty olive
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this is tc afterall

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how does surtr get the 4th magmastack

gaunt apex
chrome flax
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magic

gritty olive
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she gets 2 from ake skill -> wulfgard combo -> N5
she gets 1 from her comboskill

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her skill grants one, but ive been told her rotation should be the following:

akekuri skill -> wulfgard combo -> N5 -> ardelia combo -> N5 -> surtr combo```
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if i try to weave again to akekur skill, it wont reach to wulfgards combo cd

safe sand
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im like 2 rotations off 😭 thats crazy

stoic dragon
manic blade
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I have lvl 20 weapon on ardelia LOL waiting for tmrw...

gritty olive
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surely it doesnt take two and two to know that E is skill, C is combo, and Q is ult right
right CLUELESS

gritty olive
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since im gonna be using those notations from now on

manic blade
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one day I'll find someone to lmk what body to use at p4 PerliDerp

midnight stirrup
gaunt apex
daring dove
# tight haven

The seed on my account so far has been on-point. Every standard banner character is P0 except Last Rite & Ardelia which are P3 for me. I'll build Last Rite if we need a second team in the short term I guess.

outer ermine
stoic dragon
daring dove
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opps wrong reply.

outer ermine
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oh weong ine

dry kindle
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Good job

ripe parrot
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fuck you fidget spinner

outer ermine
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wtf

gritty olive
ripe parrot
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surely the marble boss is easier right guys? clueless

gritty olive
tight haven
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LETS GO

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SECOND TRY

ripe parrot
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no but for real how horrible is that going to be with a laev team

tight haven
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you kind of just fucking style on her

midnight stirrup
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Can Xaihi fully utilise DU

stoic dragon
tight haven
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she has too many stagger nodes and you can ult form thru arm phase

gritty olive
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insane i need to pin this shit forever

ripe parrot
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ohh yeah she has 3 stagger bars

gritty olive
tight haven
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yeah no she gets stunlocked with p5 wulf

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its hilarious

midnight stirrup
gritty olive
daring dove
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I really hope in the next batch of characters we get. We get another character that slots into Laevatains team an meaningfully improves it.

tight haven
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im p sure its gonna be rossi

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and she'll replace akekuri

midnight stirrup
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Feelscrafting

tight haven
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my feels are real

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im drawing on knowledge from the damn akashic records

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(mi fu will be heat and my theories will be proven wrong)

manic blade
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shes too powerful in lore watch her be a dps that eats pyro like nothing

outer ermine
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why monaihe, i just prefer not to use ult gain in general

manic blade
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why does rossi just smurf on everyone LOL

outer ermine
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my fights dont last that long

gritty olive
outer ermine
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PerliWheeze and i have p5 detonation

midnight stirrup
gritty olive
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now the problem is when does she get to skill xdd

daring dove
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Too much synergy between strong DPS'es.

midnight stirrup
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Yvonne is terrible?

tight haven
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wait what

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wdym

stoic dragon
tight haven
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they changed yvonne how?

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ik they nerfed xaihi from cbt1

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but thats because she gave like 10k atk or some shit

midnight stirrup
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They nerfed LR

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Idk about any Yvonne changes

tight haven
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yeah they didnt nerf yvonne

chrome flax
daring dove
tight haven
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oh

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yeah nah yvonne is how she always was

safe sand
#

whats the rotation for phys shatter teams 😭

gritty olive
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currently this is what im working at

tight haven
#

shes just pretty hard to use because she wants to be a boss nuker but every boss has invuln phases that are pretty hard to skip

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so shes... an elite nuker..?

dry kindle
#

Team build is a lost cause

midnight stirrup
#

I lowkey want Yvonne bc I got Gilberta but eh.

gritty olive
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i coded laevatain that she will only combo with the ardelia corrosion after it almost expires, so i need to do two more N5s for it

tight haven
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for strong overworld elites..?

dry kindle
tight haven
tight haven
sly nymph
#

if you want to max an r1 weapon’s passives you need a 2/2/1 essence?

gritty olive
tight haven
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i need the funny 2m damage screenshot

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its a moral imperative

midnight stirrup
#

Anyway

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We should probably move to general

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Theyre trying to tc

manic blade
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well that was easy

gritty olive
tight haven
#

nice

daring dove
gritty olive
#

the only reason people are here is that 1. #salt-mine-gacha-flex looks like more of pull flexxes so screenshots of clears are redirected here 2. #endfield #off-topic have image perms off unless its called sigma testers and other higher ups

manic blade
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the farm ult and 3 sp stacks before fighting strat

gritty olive
midnight stirrup
stoic dragon
tight haven
gritty olive
tight haven
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last rite was never intended to really work with yvonne, because yvonne wants to solidify enemies and last rite wants to eat up cryo stacks

gritty olive
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so im heavily reliant on people who are actually playing

midnight stirrup
tight haven
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theyre two cryo dpses that conflict with each other and always have

chrome flax
midnight stirrup
tight haven
#

yeah not disagreeing

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its just funny that yvonne kinda sucks at the thing she seems to want to do

gritty olive
# stoic dragon alr

anyways this is really fine. can you try holding off the surtr combo as much as possible

tight haven
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because bosses invuln every time she nukes them

gritty olive
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thinkChamp ive been told that we should only use her combo at the latest time possible

stoic dragon
midnight stirrup
#

Anyway lets go #off-topic its chill there, and people trying to tc here.

chrome flax
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her ult is a majority of her dmg distribution

gritty olive
tight haven
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im not sure why you would hold off surtrs combo(?)

gritty olive
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ok, ill change it asap

chrome flax
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you'd want the susceptability debuff for when laev will ult

tight haven
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yes thats it

tight haven
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if youre doing early ardelia susc routing then you want to hold it until ardelia's bskill applies susc so laevs cskill does more damage

stoic dragon
tight haven
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oh youre not routing for early ardelia susc

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okay

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i dont see a reason to hold it then tbh

gritty olive
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i dont know anything so im heavily reliant on other people input

tight haven
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you just wanna trigger it as often as possible

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fair

safe sand
tight haven
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you got this

safe sand
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😭

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my team is so chopped bro

ripe parrot
#

i believe in you

daring dove
#

Btw does anyone else find it a little odd that the developers made ATK% sub-stats on weapons & buffs so broken?

safe sand
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not particularly

daring dove
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It's like a multiplayer to your damage almost.

safe sand
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that's how atk% should be no

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its just that in this game its not very diluted

tight haven
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#fuckcrowns

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let me m12 her already

safe sand
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people are masterying shit bro 😭 what

tight haven
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just laev

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i dont think its worth masterying anyone else

gritty olive
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@stoic dragon here

daring dove
ripe parrot
#

where in the world did you find your crowns

gritty olive
tight haven
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for me at least

tight haven
ripe parrot
#

damn you endmin your nepotism is ruining me

safe sand
#

the formula is the exact same

gritty olive
# gritty olive

wulf skill -> ake combo -> wulf combo -> laev N5 -> ardelia combo -> laev combo -> laev n5 -> laev skill -> laev N5

tight haven
#

oh yeah has anyone tested if batk levels affect her enhanced batk damage

gritty olive
#

wulf skill -> wulf combo chopped since i havent coded it such that his combo only triggers when heat infliction goes up when other allies did it

tight haven
#

i might just do that rn

tight haven
#

lemme test

gritty olive
#

i already tested some damage

daring dove
ripe parrot
#

oh sorry quoted wrong person

stoic dragon
gritty olive
gritty olive
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and check if its around 12-14 seconds to account dashing

chrome flax
# gritty olive

can move lae combo to right after her 2nd seq cuz ard has delay on corro pop and you're still holding atk when you use ard combo

safe sand
gritty olive
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a late laev combo castoricecrying

chrome flax
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it's not late

tight haven
#

yeah its not technically late

stoic dragon
chrome flax
#

laev combo will come up around the time you finish your 2nd seq

safe sand
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atk% and attr. atk being seperate multiplier is just a game design decision that i think was good

tight haven
#

youre just finishing your batk seq before popping it

gritty olive
#

the laev combo is monitoring only corrosion, so lets focus on it instead

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so like 3 seconds after corrosion got applied then?

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because i can like sheet it in a way that if the corrosion timer is <2 seconds, i wouuld activate surtr combo

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this indecisiveness stems from me prioritizing sheeting over playing, so im at the mercy on what info is given to me

safe sand
#

wow endmin's battle skill multiplier is so pathetic lmfao

outer ermine
#

DaPanEat -2 ginseng food for nothing

stoic dragon
daring dove
placid steeple
gritty olive
placid steeple
gritty olive
#

maybe give or take 3 days?

gritty olive
#

but im going to play genshin and arknights as well which will hinder my progress even more

outer ermine
gritty olive
placid steeple
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There there

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I’ll get you some McDonald’s to make the pain ease

daring dove
safe sand
#

are the only combo skills that apply some vulnerability da pan/ember/chen/estella

daring dove
#

ATK% on weapon is the best stat in the game rn.

gritty olive
#

really

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the only thing hindering me on this is energy

safe sand
#

i mean in the sense that it's just as valuable as most other buffs sure

gritty olive
#

im just gonna assume stagger is at 150

tight haven
#

oops

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438 both times

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before/after m1 batk

gritty olive
#

yeah

tight haven
gritty olive
#

conversion -> WHYYYY

tight haven
#

320 > 340 for normal batks

gritty olive
#

ive also tested that ult dmg doesnt buff enhanced BA of laev

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so unless otherwise stated, enhanced BA is not considered whatever ability was used to enhance it

tight haven
#

which makes sense

safe sand
#

skill dmg bonus not increasing crush dmg was crazy to me

tight haven
#

anyway scathe is a nutty ass sig

midnight stirrup
placid steeple
dire wind
placid steeple
gritty olive
placid steeple
#

Run okay have fun thankyou guys for your work

gritty olive
#

finalbase = (charbase + wpbase)(1 + wpatk%)

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ok im going to assume that
stagger of enemy is set at X
skills gives 6.5 energy to all units
combo gives 10 energy to the person who did the combo

ill ignore arts infliction damage for now since this is surtr
give me half a day at least

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this is enough

safe sand
#

what is wpatk% here

gritty olive
#

forgeborn(surtr sig) gives like 33% atk

safe sand
#

and this is multiplicative to an external atk buff somehow?

gritty olive
#

that atk% doesnt go to standard atk% buffs, it goes straight to the base atk

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you can consider it like that

safe sand
#

i mean it would be finalbase * externalatk no

daring dove
#

Once people max that it's going to get silly.

dire wind
#

yeah i just got my 3/3 just need to farm more to max it now

outer ermine
slate tartan
outer ermine
#

someone hand me tcreds PerliWaaaaa

gritty olive
gritty olive
midnight stirrup
gritty olive
#

i will really appreciate it NozomiNod

gritty olive
outer ermine
#

eleele

gritty olive
outer ermine
midnight stirrup
#

Trying to read the tooltip ingame but ps5 controls Cynoderp

gritty olive
#

@midnight stirrup read this instead. im gonna go prep myself for uni so catch yall later

midnight stirrup
tight haven
#

they trigger increasingly more damaging bursts as you inflict more stacks

outer ermine
#

how do i only have 1 thermite wtf PerliWaaaaa

tight haven
#

i have 0 💔

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laev weapon puller syndrome

outer ermine
#

did we have a selector for it i forgor

midnight stirrup
#

Okay makes sense

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DU kinda good on Xaihi then

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cause u dont do big peepee dps on LR until 3 stacks anyway

tight haven
#

i think the curated weapon supply has it?

chrome flax
tight haven
#

im not using mine

tight haven
#

im keeping it to waste inventory space for this dogshit company

outer ermine
tight haven
#

fuck you endfield, your subsidiaries, employees and any affiliated individuals, stockholders or donors

daring dove
#

1% more attack pog

outer ermine
#

literally me on lr sig pull sessionPerliWheeze

daring dove
#

I pulled Ardelia's sig early, if you pull to get Aredlia's sig, then do two more pulls you get a Cutter box selector. But honestly we're getting it for free in 2 days.

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I just went for it since I wanted a dupe anyway.

safe sand
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this is actually so fucked up im 90% sure my rhodagn clear completely hinges on whether alesh hooks a rare fish

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gonna crash out

tight haven
#

solidification experience

broken meadow
tight haven
#

i had two characters that i begged them to buff from cbt and they were exactly alesh and lifeng

safe sand
tight haven
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lifeng because his bskill takes approximately 5 years to finish its animation and alesh because... yeah...

safe sand
tight haven
#

22(!!!) sp regen

safe sand
#

wow broken

tight haven
#

thats like

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almost 1/4 of an sp bar

safe sand
#

meanwhile pog:

tight haven
#

thats almost 1/3 of a single akekuri flare POGGIES

safe sand
#

if its any consolation the alesh skill cd is ridiculously short

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9s, running full frontiers brings to around 7.5

daring dove
#

Who's the worst character in Laevatains team btw, Akekuri or Wulfguard?

dry kindle
#

Wulfgard is core sooooo

safe sand
#

i mean wulfgard is core for a boring reason no

weak meteor
#

its a boring reason but it is essencial for surtrs stack count

safe sand
#

well i guess you could say that about any support actually 💀

weak meteor
#

especially in multi target situations

safe sand
#

but more so that nobody competes in his niche

chrome flax
#

it's like playing last rite without xaihi if you wanna compare to wulf and laev

weak meteor
#

yes but wulfgard inflictions are consistant

safe sand
#

we just don't have enough characters

weak meteor
#

and that too

tight haven
#

if wulf isnt p5 then wulf

safe sand
#

endmin p5 when smoge

gritty olive
#

@stoic dragon would you be down doing damage rotaitons for me

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but you need to craft quad ER for ardelia, wulfy, and akekuri

tight haven
#

do you mean eternal xiranite

gritty olive
#

yeah

dry kindle
#

Explodes

gritty olive
#

i can manually adjust surtrs stats to match the mira's

tight haven
#

if you dont mind an overinvested surtr i can help

gritty olive
#

i wont mind

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ill ping you both

tight haven
#

yeah just lemme know what to do

gritty olive
#

so i can also track if your laevs damage is onpoint with what im getting

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so im now accounting for buff timers and uptimes

gritty olive
#

but i can adjust it to match yours

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i might be missing some stuff here

#

so like the uptimes includes hotwork passive

trail ether
#

Given the new knowledge on stat calcs, did we get any changes to antal gear?

tight haven
gritty olive
trail ether
tight haven
ripe parrot
#

mods GET HIM

tight haven
#

its over.

safe sand
#

damn i would have gotten trim if this killed 😭

chrome flax
dry kindle
#

Smh

tight haven
#

bruh i keep forgetting to check in on skport

ripe parrot
safe sand
ripe parrot
#

where do you get this

safe sand
#

you make it

#

?

ripe parrot
#

don't you have to unlock the recipe

safe sand
#

hm

gritty olive
dry kindle
ripe parrot
#

but muh automation

#

I think I found it. it's a side quest

safe sand
#

how much dmg should i expect chen to be doing on combo skills/ultimate

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given its full buff stagger rotation

gritty olive
#

.mommy

outer ermine
slate tartan
#

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage Feel free to contribute

Endfield Talos Wiki

Damage is the number calculated by many in-game parameters that can be inflicted or received in combat.
This is the key value of the Endfield's combat system and roots of theorycrafting.
This is a Work In Progress.
Improvements:

  • How does Phys%, Heat% impact Damage calculation?
  • How does Breach, And...
safe sand
#

i think im getting ~110k on ultimate but that feels super low

ripe parrot
#

that question can't really be answered because it's all dependent on your own stat spread

safe sand
#

makes sense, im just trying to get a gauge on how much dmg chen usually contributes to phys teams

gritty olive
# slate tartan https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage Feel free to contribute
#

this isnt mine but im going to primarily refer to this ami

shadow fern
#

Is anyone able to tell me what im missing for level 12 valley 4? Sorry if theres a better channel

manic blade
#

Was the one endgame mode in beta? Can you good buff for it

valid zealot
#

Gambling is scary in just 10 mins I spent my entire saving getting Da Pan sig.

gritty olive
#

depot lvl4 as well?

shadow fern
#

Yeah. Im missing 40 points

gritty olive
#

oh

valid zealot
gritty olive
shadow fern
#

Was hoping someone with max could compare to mine and tell me which category im missing

gritty olive
shadow fern
#

440*** points mb

valid zealot
#

Max is 8550

gritty olive
#

ThumbsUp refer to those. peeps might have that

shadow fern
#

wait i didnt max the bunny. fml ty

gritty olive
#

stock redistributor

dry kindle
manic blade
shadow fern
#

I thought it was one bunny!

#

didnt realize they all had their own upgrades

valid zealot
#

I am stupid.

ripe parrot
#

at a certain point, it's more economical to invest into depot nodes

#

but yeah getting them all to a comfortable level is great

manic blade
#

Figure out laeva ult reqs for one cycle :3

valid zealot
#

It's okay I will just skip Gil & Yvon.

shadow fern
#

Okay so how do I access meta storage now? Gotta get some ferrium ASAP

valid zealot
#

to financially recover.

dry kindle
gritty olive
#

do wulfgard quest

shadow fern
#

For wuling I mean, Idk where the Meta Storage is to move it over

heavy fossil
ripe parrot
heavy fossil
#

peak

valid zealot
#

Yes.

#

And yk what worse

heavy fossil
#

no

#

I don’t know

valid zealot
#

High chance I might dust panda still

#

Cuz no resource.

heavy fossil
#

amazing business decision

valid zealot
#

Where can I hire to hypnotize myself into forgeting this happened.

heavy fossil
valid zealot
shadow fern
#

is meta storage not automatic? I have to do it every hour?

valid zealot
ripe parrot
#

it's automatic you just have to set the item once

crystal linden
#

Did Laevatain propose to the Endmin??

heavy fossil
#

peak theorycrafting chat

ripe parrot
valid zealot
crystal linden
#

i dont have discord on pc

ripe parrot
#

fair

heavy fossil
weak meteor
outer ermine
weak meteor
#

and then press the hdownload button

valid zealot
#

It's just p1 Lae is kinda not worth it.

crystal linden
valid zealot
#

You can.

#

wdym

chrome flax
#

wat

crystal linden
#

i cant chat on discord on my pc

chrome flax
#

just sign in to the same discord account you're using

outer ermine
#

account u mean

crystal linden
#

if i log in i get kicked out on my phone

safe sand
#

you have got to be kidding me

valid zealot
dry kindle
candid jungle
chrome flax
#

yessir

ripe parrot
#

(i got trimmed medal shortly after that screenshot)

outer ermine
#

1s is just evil

valid zealot
#

I was 20 sec short shd I food it.

manic blade
rugged kiln
outer ermine
#

ginseng will make the difference PerliFumo

ripe parrot
#

all my homies hate ginseng

valid zealot
#

That was the more optimal run.

ripe parrot
#

random food bullshit team where we at

safe sand
valid zealot
manic blade
#

You can also get a handful of hits after phase 1

safe sand
#

i recorded my run too 😭

rugged kiln
#

i will get this trim with maxed out ember trust

valid zealot
#

Aight no food it is lemme retry.

manic blade
#

Also farm ult and 3 sp stacks it helps

safe sand
#

wdym 3 sp stacks

manic blade
#

On trash mobs

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Skill bar

safe sand
#

you can do that...?

dry kindle
safe sand
dry kindle
safe sand
manic blade
#

Yep it doesn’t go up out of combat for sone reason but u can get ults and stay in combat until max skill bars