theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

still one tapped

[thorn ibex]

it's like atk% vs flat atk

[tight haven]

yeah none of this shit matters atm because enemies are too easy to just dodge

and ally ai is very smart

[thorn ibex]

ikr

[tight haven]

like if they die its a gear/level issue

[drifting quest]

hardest enemy in the game to dodge is still that one random wuling water elite

every time i think ive learned its patterns i catch another hit

[tight haven]

i will say enemies are fun to learn

like really fun to learn

[thorn ibex]

URGH THEY ARE SO ANNOYING

ya they are very properly telegraphed

[tight haven]

styling on triagg by learning how to dodge all its attacks feels so fucking satisfying

[lime bear]

except Triaggelos, hate that bitch

[drifting quest]

they dont stay still for the essence farm either and there's 2 of them

[tight haven]

yeah fair

its a difficult boss to learn

[drifting quest]

so you have to dodge 2 at once

[thorn ibex]

KEKW

duality of man

[tight haven]

just surtr it (unironically)

[drifting quest]

dorito is fun until i have to actually fight it

i like the idea of the dorito boss

[lime bear]

I like phase 1 and 3, but the 2 one with AoE enemy is just annoying

[tight haven]

triagg phase 2 pisses me off sm

[drifting quest]

not the actual fight

[outer ermine]

dorito stop running challenge

[lime bear]

also invuln phase when he jump around

[thorn ibex]

wait what are the bosses for again?

[lime bear]

waste a lot of time

[thorn ibex]

like why would you ever spend stam on them

[tight haven]

literally rng on whether or not it decides to waste 30s of my time by giving me the nuke > adds phase again

[drifting quest]

yes i will use this moment to activate my ult and burst the boss

invuln phase

[tight haven]

medals

lol

[lime bear]

yep

[tight haven]

theyre sanity-inefficient for ascension mats iirc

compared to crisis drills

[drifting quest]

ok i wasted my ult to clear the adds
10s later it nukes again into invuln phase

[lime bear]

didnt they give 8 for 120 sanity

[drifting quest]

crashout worthy

[tight haven]

yea its bad

the drills give 7 for 80

[drifting quest]

i thought it was 6 for 80

[lime bear]

wait not 6?

[tight haven]

i think the only diff is that bosses have better random drop rates

[drifting quest]

still better

[tight haven]

idk i got 7

[soft canyon]

wich sword is better for Leavatain if i wanna go on heat dmg the Umbral Torch or Forgeborn Scathe

[drifting quest]

great so its rng too

[tight haven]

maybe it was a random drop

[lime bear]

yeah the random chance

[tight haven]

lol yeah

[drifting quest]

lmao

[lime bear]

usually its 6 iirc

[tight haven]

bosses are a waste of san afaik

just fight them for medals

[drifting quest]

if you hit 7 every time then its 3 runs

or 7/7/6

but if you hit 2 6's then its 4

[tight haven]

scathe >>>>> umbral torch

umbral torch is her fake sig for people who didnt get her real one

all the bp weaps are like that

except yvonnes (navigator) which loses out to wedge for some reason

[drifting quest]

low stake conspiracy theory hg dont like yvonne thats why she's so bad

[lime bear]

yeah deep dive 120/8 is 15 sanity/steel compared to protocol 80/6 which is 13.33 sanity/steel

I do wonder what endgame HG will implement

prob usual combat endgame stuff with timer

[drifting quest]

there's umbral monument but its a joke

or there's trimmed recrisis which is

a joke for the opposite reason

[soft canyon]

so it is better from dmg to use a ult build then a heat build on laevatain

[drifting quest]

we dont know

[tight haven]

we literally do not know

LOL

[lime bear]

oh ya how is Gil rn

[drifting quest]

ive yet to see anyone actually have the ult build

[drifting quest]

potential woman

[tight haven]

gil is fine but i think shes uh

maaaaaaaaybe good for yvonne?

if you squint?

like yvonne xaihi ake gilb?

besides that she doesnt really belong anywhere

[drifting quest]

gilberta is mandatory to make yvonne playable

lmao

yvonne is not a unit without gilb

[tight haven]

ardelia replacement in phys teams bht optimal phys teams dont even run ard

[tight haven]

yvonne isnt a unit in general bro

[hexed terrace]

Any wizard can tell me where did 1 extra vul came from

[tight haven]

buff my girl 💔

[drifting quest]

you can put gilb on any team technically as long as you account for the ult nature infliction

generally used for 1 rot clears

[tight haven]

yeah her nature infliction is so annoying to play around

literally her 1 problem compared to ard

[lime bear]

tbh Im just thinking what to raise for my 2nd team, was lucky enough to get Lifeng and Pog P1 lmao but I also have Last Rite. wondering should I go Phys or Cryo LR

[tight haven]

i also wish she applied amp somehow but oh well

antal and xaihi stocks keep rising

[lime bear]

tho is not like im building 2nd team soon

[tight haven]

i wanna build phys but i Do Not want to spend arsenal tix on permanent weaps

[drifting quest]

im pretty sure the yvonne rot is just like

[tight haven]

i really hate the arsenal system lowkey

[hexed terrace]

Been wanting to ask amp is dmg bonus but independent multi?

[drifting quest]

if gilb ult is up then gilb skill combo ult and pop the 2 stack

if not then do the slow xaihi rot

[tight haven]

its so dogwater for pulling pots and the separate pools also feels bad

plus 25% for the featured is. lol

[drifting quest]

arsenal system is good in theory but does not feel good in practice

[lime bear]

tbh its good on paper if theres a weekly conssitent mode to get HH ticket

[outer ermine]

[lime bear]

all of the standard

rn is one time

[tight haven]

yea it made more sense in cbt1 with the 5k tix a week

100 tix a week 💀

[drifting quest]

100/week makes it take like 3 years to guarantee a weapon

lmao

[tight haven]

yeah its crazy

no way to exchange beryl for tix too

[drifting quest]

5000/week is definitely too much

that's a sig every 4 weeks

[tight haven]

if you could exchange 1/2 beryl = 1 tix holy shit

[drifting quest]

something like 1-2k is probably a sweet spot

[lime bear]

if you have weekly that gives considerable amount of HH

[tight haven]

but nah its 1 origeo for 25 tix

which is terrible conversion

[drifting quest]

maybe less to encourage spending i guess

500 or so

[tight haven]

yeah the arsenal tix packs are silly

[lime bear]

Ill prob choose Thermite for the pog

[drifting quest]

i would have probably spent more than i have if the packs were better

[lime bear]

also good for Ake

[drifting quest]

as is i dont see any reason to spend more than bp + monthly

[tight haven]

$21 for 2k (1 purchase) then $25 for 2k+mats (4 purchases) then $27 for 2k+more mats (10 purchases)

i see what they did here.

very funny hg.

it resets every banner btw

[tight haven]

yea thermite is kinda the goat

its such a good fake sig for any vanguard

same with obj eol

[drifting quest]

similar price to monthly hh in ak but way less value due to it costing 2-4x the pulls

[tight haven]

yeah the pack value is pretty dogwater

[lime bear]

the free bp kinda goated tho since I have pulled Laevatain sig and not planning on pulling either Gil or Yvonne so dt Im gonna use it

Fangyi first 6* Lightning DPS trust

[tight haven]

same as in ak tbh, ak packs have always been on the expensive side imo

[drifting quest]

electric eating good

mi fu and fangyi

physical gets tangtang as an actual dps (probably)

[tight haven]

i fully expect fangyi to be laev-tier if not better

[drifting quest]

fire gets a vanguard in rossi

cryo nature get nothing

lmao

[tight haven]

i kinda like phys being the "jump their ass" team

with damage being spread out

[pulsar heron]

does anyone know how much of a % gain extra lae sig copies are

[tight haven]

not having a healer also forces you to play more intelligently

feels nice

[outer ermine]

get to save after going all in on lr

[pulsar heron]

because i lucksacked into one when i was going for the arms oc box

[drifting quest]

<10-20% from p0 > p5

[tight haven]

each pot is like 2% dpr

iirc

[drifting quest]

even less than i thought lmao

[tight haven]

its throwing money away

just do it if you like her

[drifting quest]

the jump looked pretty good but i guess not

[pulsar heron]

i'm not actively going for them i just want the pick ur 6* box

[drifting quest]

the box sucks

[tight haven]

ah

yeah you can like...

get wulfs bis?

i guess?

clannibal is kinda nice if you can do rots around it

[fierce zinc]

What stat should I focus on artificing on laevatein?

[tight haven]

do not artifice for laev rn

[drifting quest]

wnn? terrible weapon
ff? terrible weapon
wedge? good generic
clannibal? not even bis
chiv? good but usually not bis
valiant? good i guess but not usually bis for most

[tight haven]

people havent tested best gear yet

just get the gear and stockpile artifice cores

[pulsar heron]

i want valiant for lifeng

[fierce zinc]

Oh I see, will stockpile on the cores

[pulsar heron]

and then i'll just sit on pulls until something interesting shows up

[tight haven]

yep

[tight haven]

you can use chimeric justice on lifeng iirc

[pulsar heron]

it's 30% worse than valiant

i'm good

[tight haven]

its not as good as valia--yeah fair

[pulsar heron]

and that's at p5

i don't even think i have a single copy

[lime bear]

what's the best dps for current Pog/Lifeng/Chen tean anyway

[pulsar heron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pointless-sad-run-futile-gif-25822185

[tight haven]

lmao then yeah go for it ig

[lime bear]

Dapan or Endmin

[drifting quest]

dapan

scales higher

[tight haven]

dapan always > endmin no matter the invest

[pulsar heron]

i have it at p1 actually

[lime bear]

Endmin is fraud smh

[pulsar heron]

but still

[drifting quest]

low invest endmin can do more, esp without pots

[tight haven]

that said phys generally needs high invest

[drifting quest]

but yeah

[lime bear]

wheres our prime Endmin

[tight haven]

phys is just nutty expensive

[drifting quest]

only getting more with tangtang

[tight haven]

bc you cant get away with hypercarry strats

yet

[lime bear]

if prime Endmin doesnt delete the boss immediately with Orginium meteor nuke Im deleting the game frfr

[thorn ibex]

do i just buy artificing catalysts here?

[tight haven]

prime endmin should summon 10 marsh turrets and 10 sentry turrets for 1 minute on ult

[thorn ibex]

what do u need wuling bills for

[drifting quest]

essences

[tight haven]

12 discounted essence tickets and 40 discounted cores

[drifting quest]

^^

[tight haven]

then the rest is up to you

get more cores if you want or more essence tickets if you want

gifts too

[lime bear]

Prime Endmin awakens the almight blue box

insta kill

[tight haven]

true

[thorn ibex]

essence tickets?

cores?

where

[grave flame]

why cannibal not bis?

[tight haven]

freeze the blue box endmin

im pretty sure clann's his bis its just hard to rotate around

because you need to use enhanced bskill to proc it

[lime bear]

AK mechanics gets crazier towards the year lmao, freezing blue box and playing with the slot of your ops with SA alter

kekw

[tight haven]

like usually youre not even using wulfs bskill

[drifting quest]

its just better to run obj for ult gain and play him as an ult bot

lmao

at p5 especially

[tight haven]

yeah obj velo is better for lazy play

[thorn ibex]

i dont see anything

[grave flame]

hmmge

[tight haven]

clann is very good if youre doing silly fast clear strats

but for mobbing obj velo beats it because his ult is good to spam to reset his cskill

[drifting quest]

clannibal is good if you invest in essences/artificing and aren't somehow p5

[halcyon aurora]

so, how has a solidification + physical team worked out next to the conventional mono physical/mono frost teams?

[tight haven]

does not exist

shatter just isnt powerful enough to capitalize on

even maxing out arts intensity

[grave flame]

i guess same for bosses? In laev team

[tight haven]

i played solidification with alesh yvonne core in beta and it was fun but not good

[halcyon aurora]

oh ok

Welp ig we just have to wait on more solidification appliers/better shatter proc-ers

[tight haven]

on bosses your rotations make the difference

i use clann because i have it at high pot and rotate around it

[lime bear]

im running rational farewell

[halcyon aurora]

anyway I feel like powercreep is gonna come in the form of mono teams getting more consistent forms of applying their reactions w/o needing a 2nd element

[lime bear]

is hot works still his bis for wulf support anyway

[thorn ibex]

am i missing something? i cant find that

[tight haven]

tickets are in the daily goods section

[halcyon aurora]

cuz idk how many ops specifically rn can apply reactions w/o needing a 2nd element

[thorn ibex]

?

and cores?

[tight haven]

engraving permit

mb

i just call them essence tickets

[thorn ibex]

oh u mean the catalysts?

[tight haven]

i think a good direction for them to go is to avoid genshin's mistakes and just make more elements

[ripe parrot]

xd

[tight haven]

dont make content centered around mono elem

[lime bear]

wulfgard best set is still hot works right

[tight haven]

make more elements, more reactions to play around with

[thorn ibex]

energy stack

there is no set

[tight haven]

no just ult spam

if at p5 especially

[lime bear]

like every support? yes I have him at P5

[tight haven]

yeah legit just stack ult eff

[lime bear]

kept getting him and Alesh lmfao

[tight haven]

wulfs dps alongside laev isnt significant enough to respect him as a subdps

[daring dove]

Just got P3 Ardelia

[tight haven]

hes a glorified heat applicator esp at p5 since ulting resets his cskill

[thorn ibex]

why do you ult spam on him again? just for heat procs?

[tight haven]

p5 makes ult reset cskill cd

[grave flame]

to gain ult energy for laev

[drifting quest]

ult applies combustion = laev combo

[tight haven]

also that yea

[drifting quest]

then p5 resets combo to apply 1 more heat infliction

[tight haven]

tbh he is fairly hard to powercreep in that regard

nobody spams like he does

[lime bear]

eternal xiranite then?

[outer ermine]

ard sig 2morrow will kill trust

[halcyon aurora]

damn bruh

so anyway, what matters the most is the stack proccer, while the rest usually provide inflictions + utility + damage buffs/amps?

[tight haven]

nah lynx gloves tide fall armor then 2 seals

[drifting quest]

intended team is 100% wulfgard + rossi + laev

[tight haven]

for now this is how every hypercarry team works yes

[grave flame]

by that you mean that his sig better?

[tight haven]

if you can play around clannibal then clannibal is better

because it applies a hefty elemental dmg taken debuff

it's hard for me to be declarative abt this because we are still very much in the trying shit out phase

[grave flame]

i just dont have it and idk is worth waiting for it, also my wulf p1 only

[lime bear]

oh redeemer seals one? aight

havent unlocked it lmao

brb exploring a bit

[drifting quest]

if you're sub p5 and you dont mind grinding essences and likely artificing then you can commit to dps wulf

[tight haven]

that said subdps wulf isnt unusable either if you like your boy doing damage, i was able to do this with plenty of clear time left with him running hot work

[lime bear]

do you guys run ake or antal for laeva

[tight haven]

ake because antal is really uncomfy

[lime bear]

slow heat stacks?

I also like ake more now

[thorn ibex]

wait reading thru wolf's kit using his skill when it is flashing is literally killing laev's stacks? bruh i have been pressing the flashy flashy this whole time

[tight haven]

pretty much that yeah

[thorn ibex]

[tight haven]

yes

enhanced bskill is only worth using IF you have clannibal on him

[lime bear]

never do that lmao

I only use Wulf combo and ult

[thorn ibex]

if it's not flashing u can use it to apply heat infliction doe

[lime bear]

yeah ik

but I usually use ake bs anyway

since its aoe

[thorn ibex]

true

wait with the initial skills in laev ake ard wolf who do you use those on?

ake and laev? or ake and ard

[tight haven]

ake bskill > wulf combo > laev final > ardelia combo > ardelia bskill

[drifting quest]

3 stack with laev combo following ardelia combo

[tight haven]

you can change stuff around depending on invest

[drifting quest]

4th stack either from another ake skill or waiting for combo cd(s) and doing ard combo again / wulf ult

[lime bear]

does it matter if ardelia bs is flashing or not

[tight haven]

it does

[ripe parrot]

there is a world where you do consume stacks on opening combo for clannibal dmg taken buff

[drifting quest]

or in aoe ake skill gets multiple

[lime bear]

I forgot whays the diff between normal

[tight haven]

flashing = applies arts susc by consuming corrosion

[drifting quest]

the world where you consume stacks on opening combo for clannibal is when you prestacked 4 melting flame in a different fight

[lime bear]

I mean its only flashing if corrosion is applied anyway right

[tight haven]

yeah but this would require a radically different open from what we have now

[lime bear]

thats the condition iirc

[tight haven]

as in, we would need a new char

[tight haven]

yep

[ripe parrot]

sorry, i should've clarified that's what i meant

[tight haven]

but yeah youre right

its valid to explore

[drifting quest]

rossi

infinite heat infliction for 1sp

300sp printer

trust

[thorn ibex]

do you wanna level any of wolf's talent?

[lime bear]

I want her but she seems so far away, maybe 1.2 since 1.1 should still be full Wuling expansion

[tight haven]

not rly

they all just buff his damage and uh

he doesnt do that much compared to laev

[thorn ibex]

figuerd

[drifting quest]

1.2 at latest if its 3 units/patch
1.3 at latest if its 2/patch

[tight haven]

that said i have done so because hes awesomeeee

[drifting quest]

but yeah 1.1 is probably full wuling lineup

[tight haven]

id really prefer 2/patch with 3 weeks per op

3/patch is just so damn fast at current income

[drifting quest]

yeah id expect we drop to 2

[thorn ibex]

also why is guide reccomending this set instead of ult spam like wolf for ake?

[drifting quest]

buff

[lime bear]

same pls let it be 2

[tight haven]

her passive

and the buff yes

[drifting quest]

the frontier build is older so it has more testing but also means itm ight be outdated

ive tried both and currently prefer frontier

[tight haven]

it might be better to just stack full ult eff but ehh

[drifting quest]

i just never feel like ult is doing more

[thorn ibex]

i get that but like the bulk of her energy refund stuff is in ult

[drifting quest]

not enough rotations in a fight

[tight haven]

yeah i like buffing her cskill more

plus it generally lines her up better with laev

[ripe parrot]

i also personally prefer the frontier buff for actual fights

[tight haven]

even at p4

[shut cobalt]

is the sp recovery stated here the combined 3 shots recovery or each shot's recovery?

[thorn ibex]

can we just refer to skill = battle skill and combo = combo skill?
the way ur saying it is really tripping me up

[tight haven]

combined

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[drifting quest]

is it not each shot

[tight haven]

i can try but bskill and cskill are like permanently ingrained in me thanks to crash fever and xenoblade

[drifting quest]

sincei t used to be 300sp

now its 240

[tight haven]

there is no way it gives 240 total

unless ive like

gaslit myself

[drifting quest]

gotta test i guess

i literally never look at it

lmao

[thorn ibex]

i feel like it does tho

wait

[tight haven]

same LOL

[robust flame]

any doc of laevatain?

[thorn ibex]

how much is the gauge?

300 right?

[tight haven]

100

yea

[ripe parrot]

100 per bar

[thorn ibex]

oh

[tight haven]

300 total

[thorn ibex]

yea 300

[tight haven]

100 sp = 1 sp bar

[drifting quest]

i never look at the combo skill cooldown indicator either

[thorn ibex]

yea i just teted her out and she basically regen 2 bar basically instantly

[tight haven]

what the fu

[shut cobalt]

theres... an indicator for when its over? where?

[lime bear]

can we also use EBS or EBSkill instead of flashing lmao

[tight haven]

hold on i gotta look at my gameplay footage

[drifting quest]

ok yeah its total

[lime bear]

flashing just sounds so funny

[drifting quest]

below their hp bars

[lime bear]

:icant:

[drifting quest]

or above sorry

[tight haven]

i do say enhanced bskill personally

[shut cobalt]

ohh, i c

[drifting quest]

the white bar above hp

is combo skill

[lime bear]

enhanced battle skill trust

[shut cobalt]

ohh

[thorn ibex]

you will not look there 🥀

[tight haven]

lmao yeah its very subtle

[shut cobalt]

its so damn small i never noticed it lmao

[drifting quest]

i noticed it like day 1

i just never look there

[ripe parrot]

that feeling when i thought it was an aesthetic glow lol

[tight haven]

i feel like it just shouldnt be white

[ripe parrot]

yes exactly it should be another color

[tight haven]

i dont know WHAT color it should be

but white makes it hard to see in your peripheral

[thorn ibex]

i mean there are moments like "huh should i use skill here to proc combo" and you can glance over but like

[ripe parrot]

yellow because arknights

[tight haven]

true

[thorn ibex]

you are not looking at it waiting for it to be over

[tight haven]

im putting that in my survey

do your surveys btw

and tell them that laevs quest was fucking awesome and you want endmin to be more of a character

plsthx

[thorn ibex]

i just literally want them to put a timer on their avatar in combat

ngl

[drifting quest]

we need mmo style addons

[ripe parrot]

that laev story should've been a part of V4 story

[tight haven]

das what im sayin

[ripe parrot]

EW

[tight haven]

make it part of the epilogue

[thorn ibex]

please no

[tight haven]

its so big

[drifting quest]

i only mean for visuals

idk what the ew is for

i dont play mmos

[ripe parrot]

based

mmo addons suck the fun out of the game

because they optimize everything for you

[thorn ibex]

i would rather get a 9-5 than play mmos

[safe sand]

do yall know of anyone who has gotten the rhodagn trim with shatter endmin

idk what the team is called actually

estella/alesh/chen/endmin or similar

[drifting quest]

i mean in this case the information is natively shown, i just want a way to make it easier to parse
let me see combo cds and buff / debuff timers as numbers not bars

let me see exactly how much sp i have

[ripe parrot]

it's unfortunately a slippery slope

[drifting quest]

there's a ton of shatter trims for rhodan

rhodan is a bum

[thorn ibex]

unfortunate all gacha games are REALLY against 3rd party ANYTHING

so we can only dream

[ripe parrot]

when you expose that much, people will inevitably make things like rotation optimizers as addons

[drifting quest]

there's rhodan solo trims im pretty sure

[safe sand]

lmfao

[tight haven]

yeah this stuff is like sooooo cringe idk

[worldly urchin]

Has anyone done calculations for optimal gear artificing? Like breakpoints for team and personal damage increases?

[safe sand]

trying to figure out what upgrades will most efficienctly increase my output

[drifting quest]

essence

[tight haven]

i kind of enjoy this level of inefficiency

[safe sand]

specifically targeting the last lines right

[thorn ibex]

can someone explain what artificing is? i unlocked the featuer but the quest REALLY did not go into any details at all

[drifting quest]

pre vs post essence, and my essence isnt even maxed

[drifting quest]

feed gear into other gear to increase the stats on the gear

[worldly urchin]

Its increasing the stat bonus on gear

[rugged kiln]

Is there an identicator for the cooldown of combo attacks?

[thorn ibex]

gear that you make? or farm?

[drifting quest]

above the units hp bar

[drifting quest]

make

its prohibitively expensive

[thorn ibex]

wait huhhh

[woeful plume]

where is this from?

[thorn ibex]

where???

[worldly urchin]

Resource intensive but you will eventially get all the bonuses

[thorn ibex]

ingame

[drifting quest]

stockpile the materials and dont actually artifice

[lime bear]

this is Ake bis right

[tight haven]

"yes until proven otherwise"

[drifting quest]

maybe ™

its good enough

it might not be best

we lack data

[lime bear]

😭

[drifting quest]

just dont artifice

its cheap to make the gear

the cost is in artificing

[tight haven]

yeah just avoid artificing shit

[drifting quest]

nothing needs artificing right now

[lime bear]

what kinda mf artifice support gear lmao this early

[woeful plume]

can ppl stuff doing factory stuff and start caring about combat man

[tight haven]

cant even whale for it 💔

[drifting quest]

whales are gated on it too yeah

[woeful plume]

im crine

[drifting quest]

but they got to endgame way sooner

so they have a headstart

[ripe parrot]

i artificed a bit to get to an ult efficiency threshold for laev

[thorn ibex]

wait so you sac gear with the stat you want, then spend the thingie to have a chance to get higher lvl?
do you normally make the same pieces or do you change it up?

[woeful plume]

thats not true

[drifting quest]

there were people at wuling like 5-6h into the game

[thorn ibex]

🥀

[tight haven]

i had maxed wuling and v4 factories by day 3 of the game being released and the game just refuses to let me leave essencd hell

27 runs for fucking surtrs essence

[thorn ibex]

what are those for?

[tight haven]

still dont have it

[drifting quest]

i got my essence sooner but ive been screwed since

3 different pities so far

3 more to go

[tight haven]

whats what for

[thorn ibex]

is essense like artificing?

[tight haven]

its the gear balls

[drifting quest]

essence is the weapon version of artificing

[tight haven]

the balls for the gear

[thorn ibex]

like farming essense
like how does it work

[tight haven]

i mean weapon

fuck

[thorn ibex]

what

[drifting quest]

you farm the balls
you feed balls into the other balls to upgrade the stats on the balls

[thorn ibex]

right

[drifting quest]

you get a ball with the same 3 stats as your weapon

[tight haven]

you farm an optimal essence for a char's BiS weapon... then farm gold essences to fuse into it to improve its stats

[thorn ibex]

can you select stat of the ball ur farming for?

[drifting quest]

you can select skill and 1 stat

so it's a 1/24 to drop the 3/3 you want

[tight haven]

not entirely. you can semi-randomize one stat and guarantee one stat. third stat is pure rng

[drifting quest]

(you select 3 stats but only 1 is usable on the weapon)

[tight haven]

but the pool for it is limited

[drifting quest]

so its 1/3 for the stat you want, then 1/8 for the secondary effect

1/24 total

[thorn ibex]

but you only need 1 right?

[tight haven]

yes

[drifting quest]

yeah you just need 1

[tight haven]

but its rng so this can take

[drifting quest]

then you feed any fodder

[tight haven]

weeks

[thorn ibex]

what does laev need?

[tight haven]

int atk% twilight

[drifting quest]

depends on wep

[jovial grove]

Literally the biggest problem of this game is that it faded away from more strategy and factory and went with hoyolike combat etc.

But now factory is too simple for those who like factory and problem solving
Too straightforward for those who want strategy
And combat is inferior to other gachas

Imagine if game stayed true to how it was in tech test/beta 1 and simply improved instead of shifting to hoyolike

[ripe parrot]

int atk twilight

[drifting quest]

sig is as listed

[tight haven]

yeah

[thorn ibex]

where do u farm it? i see like 4 different ones

[tight haven]

wuling city alluvium

[drifting quest]

wuling for forgeborn

[jovial grove]

Also would be cool If the tutorials didn't treat player like a braindead retard

[tight haven]

nowhere else.

[ripe parrot]

i'm so sad that i optimized my entire factory because the best content is now done 🙁

[worldly urchin]

So whats best to start out with artificing or essences?

[drifting quest]

essence

artificing is asking to get punished

[ripe parrot]

you can wait on artifice because you just stack components and wuling bucks passively

[tight haven]

artificing is too expensive to justify rn

[thorn ibex]

oh what's different about the wuling one compared to the other?

[ripe parrot]

until we know what optimal builds are

[tight haven]

you can just buy the artifice cores and stockpile them

[drifting quest]

the valley 4 one cant drop atk%

[tight haven]

the 40 discounted every week

[thorn ibex]

ahh

can you select which stat you want to guarentee (and by extension what stat do you wanna guarentee for laev)

[tight haven]

you should always pick twilight for guarantee

[drifting quest]

you select a skill type (twilight) plus 3 stats

you only care about 1 stat (int)

every drop will have the skill (twilight) and 1 of the 3 stats, then a random secondary

so 1/3rd of them will be int twilight, and 1/8th of those will be int atk% twilight

[tight haven]

int boost main att boost are the only twilight stats that matter

[drifting quest]

or 1/24 total odds

[tight haven]

for now

[thorn ibex]

like this? or main attribute

[tight haven]

pick main att as your third

[drifting quest]

yes but you have to select a third attribute

[tight haven]

str boost doesnt matter

[safe sand]

is there a difference in chances between selecting the secondary stat vs selecting the skill stat

[drifting quest]

no its the same odds

[tight haven]

nah, it will just randomize either one

[safe sand]

kk gotcha

[tight haven]

1/8 chance

[drifting quest]

but twilight is more valuable than atk% so you can get a cope piece sooner

[tight haven]

yep

[drifting quest]

if you get like 3 int 1 twi or something you can run it without upgrading it

until you get a 3/3

[tight haven]

just dont etch anything that isnt int atk% twilight

[lime bear]

should I M9 Laeva first or start essence?

[tight haven]

i would m9 first and just stockpile tickets

personally

[thorn ibex]

and what are the essense tickets for? free run?

[tight haven]

you can do both at the same time though, like do m2 for ult and bskill then pivot to essence fishing

[drifting quest]

im a level short on bp so i cant m9

[tight haven]

lol same

i think everyone is

[thorn ibex]

m9?

[tight haven]

mastery 9

[drifting quest]

mastery 3 x 3

3 skills at sl12

[tight haven]

as in 9 combined mastery levels

[thorn ibex]

ah

[jovial grove]

Imagine that there was stuff like:

• 1 more ore
  Planting units made carbon as off product
  • carbon was used to craft nice amounts of character exp
• More water stuff
• drill that required water
• some units outputted used "waste water" that u needed to utilize
  And factory was
• actually tied with valley four story instead of being on side like a filler episode
• it's progression was related to stuff in it self rather than exporting to find sickt balloons

[lime bear]

since its early Im gonna run tidefall first for comfy

[tight haven]

yeah just run hot work and tide fall

[safe sand]

i think waste/byproducts is super unexplored in this game yeah

would also be somewhat lore-fitting as you must deal with the consequences of using originium

[thorn ibex]

they are 100% expanding factory stuff
entirely new type of fctory when we reach new areas aswell
we are only version 1.0

[drifting quest]

you can dump xiranite liquid in all the pools

pollute all the water sources

[safe sand]

how important is weapon 60>80 for damage actually

[thorn ibex]

how much are u guys earling in terms of wuling bills daily?

[ripe parrot]

I'm coping that next wuling patch drops some cool fluid optimization

[thorn ibex]

generally weapon is some of the most important, base atk increase and manistat increase is a LOT of dmg

[jovial grove]

But all this has already been in betas and got cut out

Like there was so much good stuff they just cut out to make

• game much much simpler and straight forward (story and progression)
• appeal more to casual genshin like player
• less f2p

[drifting quest]

capped by regen speed + whatever i get lucky from delivery + elastic goods

[ripe parrot]

i didn't really keep track but maybe like 500-700k?

[jovial grove]

Can I dm u ?

[ripe parrot]

sure

[lime bear]

nvm im gated by mark of perseverance so can only m1 ult and bskill now

[thorn ibex]

i feel like it will eventually be more complicated
it's still 1.0 it's very understandable that they want to appeal to as much people as possible
like we dont even have an endgame yet

[outer ermine]

no carryovers

[ripe parrot]

like with arknights, we're probably getting wild stuff way later down the line when the core audience is built

[thorn ibex]

just have patience and let the devs cook

[frank knoll]

Whats the BIS options for Endmin with Grand Vision for essence engraving? I looked around and I cant seem to find this

[safe sand]

i realized yesterday i could run other peoples' depot runs and earn bank

[drifting quest]

version 2.0 we're off to kill Samivilinn

[jovial grove]

all i can say that of everything that could go wrong

everything (except optimization/graphics) went wrong since beta

[outer ermine]

lol yea, its camp wars for wuling bills

[drifting quest]

check the weapon
look at the 3 lines
get an essence with those 3

[safe sand]

whats ur wuling factory output rn? do you have anything going into xiranite components or nah

[lime bear]

lemme reconfirm wulf bis gear for ult spam since I have him at P5 too is tidefall armor, regular 2x redeemer seal and eternal xiranite gloves?

[worldly urchin]

Future ideas:Tower defense pvp,all guys esque builder gauntlet, create a SAW esque trap for your friends, a pool where you can remove ladders

[thorn ibex]

beta doesnt particularly mean just beta for version 1.0 no? especially for huge projects like this
even with other big gacha games the betas for the first version was more content than the version itself was unless im very mistaken

[safe sand]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/#optimizer
i found this at least somewhat useful for getting an idea of where to farm, the essence checker tab in particular is nice to see if the essence that you just got is slottable in any weapon

[drifting quest]

revolutionary idea
we get a tower defence mode but like we use the operators as towers

surely this has never been done before

[tight haven]

just match the three stats on grand vision

[safe sand]

kind of a banger idea

[thorn ibex]

p2w in all its glory 🔥

[outer ermine]

i flex output w 12/min battery and components whichever i need more

[ripe parrot]

and after that launches successfully, let's make some kind of action rpg with factory elements in it

[thorn ibex]

btw what's the consensus around crit in this game?

[drifting quest]

what do you need 12/min batteries for

[drifting quest]

sucks

[safe sand]

selling

[ripe parrot]

i believe only yvonne likes it? otherwise it's pretty bad at the moment

[tight haven]

no we had about the same content in cbt2

[drifting quest]

5/min batteries + syringes already easily caps out on selling

[outer ermine]

some of this towers on meat mobs cant tell if theyre farming it or just placing random ass towers cuz theyre all low lvl

[tight haven]

bad except on yvonne

[ripe parrot]

i don't personally know about yvonne because i didn't see the numbers myself

[outer ermine]

maybe sub accs

[safe sand]

wait how are you getting this

[tight haven]

crit dmg literally only exists on yvonne p5

which is hilarious

[thorn ibex]

oh why so? i see the formula make it scale exponentially until a point tho?

[drifting quest]

wdym how

[tight haven]

i dont know why theyre gatekeeping it so hard

[outer ermine]

i trade all my battery maximize income

[thorn ibex]

what the fuck

[safe sand]

wait does the bonus earning chance stuff also count toward the stock bill drain

[drifting quest]

yvonne base ult has cdmg too

[thorn ibex]

okay so we just dont have sources for crit

[tight haven]

wdym?

[safe sand]

i guess this is pretty easy to check 1 sec

[tight haven]

bonus earning = more stock bills

[ripe parrot]

well wuling also has awful development so you don't get a lot of wuling income

[safe sand]

yeah ok it doesnt

[ripe parrot]

the outpost can't replenish fast enough

[tight haven]

failed artifices used to give back like 5k stock bills

it was really nice

[thorn ibex]

how do you guys do others depot missions? do you just camp on the page until someone post anything/

[ripe parrot]

damn... the IRS strikes again

[tight haven]

yeah just refresh and hope

[thorn ibex]

[outer ermine]

its gonna be real hard soon

[tight haven]

99% of gamers still dont have a single depot maxed atp

so like its chill

[drifting quest]

6/min batteries, 1/min usage
6/min components but i only run it for half a day at a time so its closer to 3/min
6/min syringes

always caps out selling so no need to make extra batteries

[thorn ibex]

[tight haven]

bro get the weekly discounted ones first

[safe sand]

16770 earning/hour, assuming 6/min syringe and 5/min batteries sold thats 221 stock/min which is 13260/hr(?)

[outer ermine]

i did

[tight haven]

oh.

[ripe parrot]

yeah if you're not hyper optimizing who really cares about minmaxing the transfer depot missions

unless you like pressing the refresh button all day

[tight haven]

4.5/min syringes lol

literally not enough ferrium to max out a single line

[outer ermine]

im not farming essence in wuling so everything goes to artificing

[thorn ibex]

how do u see that?

[drifting quest]

if you send ferrium or bottles from valley 4 you can max it

[safe sand]

can someone check me on this i might be misunderstanding this hourly estimates line

[safe sand]

click the ?

[tight haven]

oh yeah kinda

[thorn ibex]

ohh nice same

[drifting quest]

my valley 4 is capped on ferrium for other stuff and im too lazy to redo so i just send ferrium

[safe sand]

5 drain/min
supplement by manual transfer once every week

[drifting quest]

eventually my ferrium deposits run out but im using what 1k/hour and i had 24k

[safe sand]

ok but like if im right here theres no way anyone is capped on outpost earnings

[valid zealot]

[ripe parrot]

5 drain a minute, huh? good thing i have a stockpile

[safe sand]

the funniest part about this all is if you're doing 18/18 in valley4 you have no extra ferrium to transfer

lol

[wanton trout]

Yeah ferrium is the issue for me too in wuling. I need to import ferrium bottles and adjust my setup (which will probably be better)

[wanton trout]

With meta storage you can

[safe sand]

witness peak

[safe sand]

wuling still loses ferrium at a rate of 5/min

no matter what

[drifting quest]

oh my god this depot node npc just gave me ginseng stew

[ripe parrot]

his point was that you're also capped on ferrium in V4

[drifting quest]

best npc in the game

[ripe parrot]

so it's a net negative (and you'll inevitably run out of ferrium stockpile in V4) unless you have meta storage

[safe sand]

i mean you'll run out even if you have metastorage

is my point

[ripe parrot]

not in V4?

[thorn ibex]

eh?

[wanton trout]

In Wuling

[ripe parrot]

if you don't have meta storage you literally run out in both regions

[thorn ibex]

max ferr consumed rn is 1080 right?

[safe sand]

maybe im misunderstanding something

18/18 fully utilized ferrium in v4 yeah?

[wanton trout]

Yes

[thorn ibex]

with meta you get +20/min?

[drifting quest]

metastorage makes transfers cost 0 or whatnot

[wanton trout]

Yes.

[drifting quest]

i never read the tooltip

[safe sand]

+25 yes. for wuling, which is at a 30 deficit

which means wuling is always at a -5

v4 is already fully utilized

[thorn ibex]

oh true

[safe sand]

hence

[thorn ibex]

just go manual breaking rocks

[ripe parrot]

yeah well there's no helping wuling

[thorn ibex]

🔥

[valid zealot]

Those peasants don't make enough money to trade for me anyway.

[ripe parrot]

literally impoverished region despite V4 being a literal refugee camp and wuling being a fully developed city

[thorn ibex]

that is so true

[tranquil burrow]

is white nova bad for chen

[safe sand]

its because the city people are using al lthe resources

lets be so fr

[valid zealot]

Yes.

[ripe parrot]

damn the upper class!!!!

[safe sand]

aspirant is buyable from the v4 stock

[tranquil burrow]

whats that

[thorn ibex]

we only haev 1 sub PAC so far

V4 has 3

🥀

[drifting quest]

to be fair we dont trade with wuling city we trade with the canonically starving stockades residents

[outer ermine]

trust we get 3 more areas for wuling, we rich soon

[ripe parrot]

i hope they make oil cracking a thing in wuling part 2

[safe sand]

buy this from the valley4 stock redist (unlocks once youve upgraded enough stock redistrubutors)

[ripe parrot]

okay fair point

[drifting quest]

the whole point of the sub pac in stockades was because they needed us to make farms

[valid zealot]

Wuling is more developed overall so they need THE Great Industries™ less.

[thorn ibex]

DID SOMEONE SAY OIL?? 🔫 🔫 🔫 🔫 🔫

[tranquil burrow]

isnt sundering steel fine tho?

[wanton trout]

Can’t wait to fully develop Wuling honestly, right now half of my main base is empty and my sub is making infinite seeds.

[safe sand]

yes

[ripe parrot]

the average endfield player can't wrap their heads around 4 step products. what if we added multi-fluid dependencies

[wanton trout]

[safe sand]

byproduct processing sub-pac would go so hard

[ripe parrot]

i kinda wanted a yazhen + jincao mixed fluid that would've been funny af

[valid zealot]

Walter experience.

[tranquil burrow]

so close

[wanton trout]

Banner ends in 10 seconds. RIP pity.

[tranquil burrow]

tfym

[tranquil burrow]

is 8 days

[wanton trout]

[safe sand]

stop thinking and go swipe

[tranquil burrow]

dont give me hearth attack

[safe sand]

[tight haven]

u can do it goat

[wanton trout]

“I identify as a time traveler”

[tranquil burrow]

im so poor

fr

[safe sand]

i wonder if estella or chen does more damage in shatter

[outer ermine]

where 80k bombs

[drifting quest]

is this even a question

[safe sand]

😭 i actually have no clue

[drifting quest]

(its chen)

(obviously)

(you're comparing to estella)

[safe sand]

oh does her combo skill do a lot

[safe sand]

quite frankly all i know about chen is she applies vuln and then during stagger rotations you ult

😭

[drifting quest]

her personal damage isnt bad

all 3 of the 'main' phys trio have similarish dps

then dapan is ahead

[safe sand]

ic

[tranquil burrow]

i hv 2 k

[valid zealot]

She might not be smart but she is r strong.

[grand lion]

which yvonne skill to max out first?

[tranquil burrow]

rizz

max out her rizz

[tight haven]

W

i beat my absolute dogshit gameplay with sheer fucking dpr

[lime bear]

are u running clannibal wulf

[outer ermine]

ah i still need to be in the area for turrets

[tight haven]

yeah

[outer ermine]

walking is inevitable

[tight haven]

i used clannibal to 1 cycle 2nd phase

[lime bear]

Im trying his ult spam build

pretty fun

still have him at lvl 70 tho lmao

[tight haven]

clear was done without food

not that it matters that much but im proud of the fact

[eternal sluice]

what are you guys running for gear on last rite?

im thinking tide surge but not sure if i should off piece the armor

[valid zealot]

Man I stagger too quickly I cannot fit 2 rotations between.

[ripe parrot]

also is there a good slug spot to farm or is it just energy alluviums

[frank knoll]

Im confused. I thought essences rolled with a Primary, Secondary and Skill stat. But this has 2 Primary stats and a Secondary?

[ripe parrot]

i believe it's not guaranteed if you don't use the engraving thing

[drifting quest]

^^

its why if you're hunting for a piece you only do it with the ticket

[tender zephyr]

U need ticket to have

2/3 chance 1 line
Guaranteed 2 line
Random 3 line

[lime bear]

between Ake Wulf Ardelia which one should I sl9 first

[drifting quest]

between the 3 of them they only care about m6 in total

[lime bear]

yeah but whats the prio first

to lvl the skills

[drifting quest]

ake ult = ard skill >>>>>>>>>>> the rest

skip ake ult even if you want to prep in case of rossi vanguard

[tight haven]

#fuckarmphase

[valid zealot]

Real.

3 stagger phase make it p brainded tho.

The 4 tentacles most annoying.

[ripe parrot]

anyone know which energy alluvium spawns dogs?

i must harvest dog meat

[valid zealot]

The 2 that spawn landbreakers.

[tight haven]

power plateau and originium science park

[ripe parrot]

thanks

[valid zealot]

Daily reset time to make money.

[ripe parrot]

me walking to all the energy alluviums with 50 beam towers in my backpack

[valid zealot]

There's cap for tower in maps tho.

10 iirc.

[ripe parrot]

it's like 10 per region which is alright

considering i don't use my towers anymore it's chill

[outer ermine]

i removed mine

for meat

[drifting quest]

It scales based on the defense minigame in regions with it
Or has a default value for those without

[obsidian hound]

For the 4th piece, do we go for miners glove to increase int?

Also would i just grab the same tact piece twice if it increases int+strength?

[fast hinge]

does arts intensity scale additively or multiplicatively with electrification

like let’s say i have a 70% buff to enhancement effect from arts intensity and 1 stack of electrification (base 12%), would the arts damage amp go to 12*1.7=20.4% or 12+70=82%

[jovial grove]

uh u go for hot sth set

[obsidian hound]

Heat set?

Rip i went for int set

[jovial grove]

hot work set

[obsidian hound]

Though I can probably transfer it to a different int unit

[obsidian hound]

Oh I think that's the int set right

+50 int with 3pc gear

[jovial grove]

and flex piece lynx slab or body from last rite set

[jovial grove]

primarily int srt

with heat and stuff

[valid zealot]

The 2 that spawn landbreakers.

He's pre gold gear.

[jovial grove]

if ure pre gold gear then u should do story to get the gold gear

simple

only craft 4 whatever pieces of below sets for the mission

[shut cobalt]

i dont have to artifice ultimate gain any more than this for laev, right?

[drifting quest]

Total should be 208%

[ripe parrot]

hurray thank you food buffs

i still can't believe foodless was 121s clear

that makes me really sad

[jovial grove]

where do i claim currency from achivements

i coudnt find achivments tab

[ripe parrot]

you get currency from achievements? lol

[shut cobalt]

so i assume its correct then

[drifting quest]

Thats the build

[ripe parrot]

I just went through the medals tab

[drifting quest]

Youre one of the few people with the build so gratz

[jovial grove]

i mean thats how gachas work, right?

[drifting quest]

Lucked out

[shut cobalt]

alr, thanks

[drifting quest]

Let us all know if its actually a good build

[dry kindle]

Smh needing food for fraud

[shut cobalt]

doubt theres so little people with it tho

its really not that hard, even without luck

[drifting quest]

Its too expensive if you dont get giga lucky

[dry kindle]

Can't wait to do the same shit next region

[shut cobalt]

its 760k per gear, u can easily get that in 5 days
and thats assuming u pity absolutely everything

[ripe parrot]

i dunno, i've only really played like 3 gachas including endfield

[drifting quest]

760k while also buying permits for essence is overbudget

[tight haven]

theres no currency for achievements

you get them for fun

[shut cobalt]

u dont buy permits for essence while u do that ofc
u'll be able to do that alot when u go for the other stats artificing

[ripe parrot]

yeah i'm just doing trimmed medals for the love of the game

[tight haven]

im consistently a bit too slow for aggelomoirai

[ripe parrot]

I'm also trying to do level 20 clears on re:crisis bosses but that's not been going great

[valid zealot]

Wow I took 10 min to do Aggelomoirai.

Sadge

[dry kindle]

Is that including gear craft costs 🗿

[shut cobalt]

gear craft + the thing to artifice that idk the name

[ripe parrot]

that feeling when level 60 rhodagn takes 30 minutes to clear at level 20

[tight haven]

mostly because i keep being greedy and not having my shit ready for when shes broken

[jovial grove]

im day 4 and i need more than 700k still for upgrades

700+k for last base
and like 1.5m for the stockmarkets lv 4s

[shut cobalt]

just make sure to add alot of people for the stock thingy and do the depot deliveries for other people + yours

[valid zealot]

Greedy Industries CEO™ demands all her teammates to also be lv80.

Sadge

Can't minmax for Lae.

[shut cobalt]

i was saying per gear, not the full 4

[tight haven]

its not thaaaaaaaaaat bad

tbh everyone else can be lv60

[jovial grove]

ye ye ik
like i literally played to lv 49 acc
then rerolled
day 3 got back at 49 and gold gear
but now im playing waiting game for stock bills
got some explo to do and other misc stuff too i guess

[shut cobalt]

i c i c, gl on that

[valid zealot]

No but I like the idea.

So no bills to spare atm.

[tight haven]

oh.

phys.

[valid zealot]

Dump every on mats.

[tight haven]

phys is pretty cringe yeah

id maybe care if i ever got lifeng and pogs sigs

[valid zealot]

[dry kindle]

That is one piece

[tight haven]

this could describe laev,

[dry kindle]

💀

[valid zealot]

Say that again.

[dry kindle]

Die

[tight haven]

ive artificed A Bit already because i cant help myself

mostly filling out laevs stats

[shut cobalt]

u only need 38 pity tho per gear?
for the ult gain part only

[valid zealot]

She's not a greedy Industries CEO™

[dry kindle]

38 per stat

[valid zealot]

She's just a homeless girl Endmin adopted.

[jovial grove]

gryphlink self insert?

[shut cobalt]

i meant ult gain only dude, just the minimum for the build
mb if it wasnt clear

[valid zealot]

Yes.

[dry kindle]

Smhsmhsmh not maxing

[shut cobalt]

i assumed the priority is ult gain to 207.7% > essence 3 stat > rest of the artificing
am i wrong?

u can do both anyways at once but still

[tight haven]

not really but the point is kind of that we dont know which gear is optimal yet

so you could have waited on that

[manic blade]

does anyone know ult gain req for 1 cycle p4 laev ult?

[shut cobalt]

i don't think theres gonna be anything better than that?
just seems like theres nothing that could be better atp for laev atleast

[vagrant sparrow]

what are yall spending sanity on

[tight haven]

theres other stuff folks have been testing like the lynx slab build

but its not really a huge deal if youve already invested

[manic blade]

wtv you need, low key been doing essence for etching since a lot gets auto farmed

[tight haven]

not like its life or death

[gritty olive]

I wanna test intuitiveness so i let people mess around with the dropdowns which are the light grey cells

[shut cobalt]

i c, but tbh, being able to use ult every rotation is the best for me, even if the other builds deal a bit more dmg
it feels fluid, unlike 2 rot builds

[tight haven]

entirely fair

[manic blade]

I can't find info anywhere... maybe i swap the body off piece and go for 2 cycle with mroe dmg

[vagrant sparrow]

im prob gonna do essence cuz i feel like these 3 noobs are prob gonna stay 60

[shut cobalt]

if the abyss equivalent if/when it releases doesnt require u to use the best build, its whatever yk

[gritty olive]

Might also want to include stagger increase
If not staggered, staggermult = 1
If staggered, staggrmult = 3

[tight haven]

i should test if link shares a mult with amp

but then i'd need to build antal...

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk

[manic blade]

What’s best off piece if I don’t need tidefall on laeva

[gritty olive]

im still figuring that out asap

[manic blade]

lmkkkk

[atomic lake]

das benutzte ichauch

[gritty olive]

I can devote 2 hours of my life doing a completing my laev sim

[manic blade]

I think it's not even worth going for one cycle ult even with p4

[thorn ibex]

do you have sample calcs available?

[gritty olive]

Just wome up

[gritty olive]

Sadly not yet, im still figuring out how arts intensity damage works

Until i see for myself how that damage is done, i wouldnt “continue”

[vagrant sparrow]

sure

[thorn ibex]

ouh what is that? the dot/reaction dmg?

do you have calcs for talent dmg yet?

[gritty olive]

The basic ones is just atk mult * def mult * res mult * scaling of damage

[thorn ibex]

yea reaction

[gritty olive]

Res mult can set to 1, def mult can set to 0.5. Since i dont have access to decimals, i can only go to like 0.1% precision

[thorn ibex]

yea i’m just confused on def mult and res mult
what is the baseline and how does def/res shred affects the formula

oh

[gritty olive]

Currently my only damage looks like this

[thorn ibex]

apparently someone tested earlier and got 0.502 for def mult at D rank enemy

[gritty olive]

Yeah thats me i think?

[thorn ibex]

ah

[gritty olive]

I was testing in wuling with an atk buff

[thorn ibex]

do we have res/def shred in the game?

[gritty olive]

And im putting this on hold for tomorrow to play other games

[gritty olive]

Def shred no, res shred yes

[thorn ibex]

how does it affects the res?

[gritty olive]

I also linked you a gdocs for damage calc

Should be 100% + resignore% - resenemy%

Like hsr

[thorn ibex]

just straight 1-res shred?

ouh nicee

[gritty olive]

Not sure if this game will follow genshin where -res shred past negative is cut by half

[thorn ibex]

doubt it ngl

[gritty olive]

But progress in this sheet might slump considering i still need to play other gachas

[thorn ibex]

since genshin base enemy has 110% res mult

[drifting quest]

Has anyone seen any yvonne dorito or statue trims yet