theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

yes

[oblique galleon]

Seal

🦭

[manic blade]

on deep dive Triaggelos w/ crit set

[oblique galleon]

I think people using crit set should get banned instantly

Just my opinion

[drifting quest]

yvonne players exploding

[manic blade]

[dry kindle]

Lynx is just dumb

[drifting quest]

it scales better in theory

if umbral monument is a very short dps check too

but i wouldnt expect it to actually practically matter

[dry kindle]

It has a 10 minute timer sooooooo

Also the trim medal is just clearing malice

Not even timed

[drifting quest]

id expect it to change

[oblique galleon]

I mean assuming you do one rotation and boss dies, you're just looking at ~~15% more heat damage vs what? 5% more mainstat?

[drifting quest]

that or floors 4,5,6 are gonna make everyone mald

[gritty olive]

its still wip, theres TOO MANY CONDITIONALS to make the sheet intuitive enough

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

i need to add a google docs for a tutorial

just mess around with my sheet. it has all gear(given i was correct at inputting data)

[dry kindle]

[dry kindle]

Anyway they haven't

[drifting quest]

gg

is it just the one medal too

[dry kindle]

Either they're assuming we don't have hands

[placid steeple]

The hoyo players yearn to flex their dmg builds and bursts

[dry kindle]

Or were about to fold

[drifting quest]

endgamebros is it over

[placid steeple]

why are you being so weird lmfao

What an odd reaction

Clearly execution is the obvious choice

Banned is so tame

[dry kindle]

crit set
like 3 crits in the entire clip

[oblique galleon]

Just reroll the fight

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-eula-gif-21667620

[manic blade]

is this better

[oblique galleon]

Does anyone know what's going on in surtr's skill damage description?

[drifting quest]

wdym

[manic blade]

i was running hot works until someone here hyped up crit set lol

[fleet tiger]

Who technically can use this weapon (could gilberta benefit from it)

[oblique galleon]

Like in her ult form. It mentions basic attack damage, so her E doesn't do skill damage in her ult?

[drifting quest]

its referring to her skill not her basics

it counts as a basic attack sequence i do believe

[languid onyx]

at p0 is lynx slab or tidefall better for laev?

[drifting quest]

to get the buffs

[oblique galleon]

Tide

[drifting quest]

we dont know for sure
tide is generally more applicable for most people right now though

just avoid artificing

[dry kindle]

Bruh

Someone comparing lynx vs tide

They used tide set

[placid steeple]

Would be nice if her skill damage counted as both batk and skill dmg

[dry kindle]

I'm gonna jump out a window

[oblique galleon]

But the 3rd E hit is skill damage for sure?

[dry kindle]

[placid steeple]

Genius why didn’t I think of that

[dry kindle]

Tide set is LR not laev 😭

[languid onyx]

thx

[dry kindle]

No one rn

[drifting quest]

as far as i know every hit is basic damage during ult

to work with her various ba damage buffs

[dry kindle]

Laev redeemer p4 is 1 cycle right

[oblique galleon]

I mean Perlica, techincally

[languid onyx]

can lynx 2E ult at p0?

[oblique galleon]

Yes, that's the point of lynx

1p lynx btw

Not set

😭

[languid onyx]

so both tidefall and lynx can 2e ult?

[oblique galleon]

So you're telling me that in that twitter post 3rd E dmg is doing more regardless of having more skill damage?

[oblique galleon]

No sorry I misread. Lynx needs 2 cycle + raw E. Tide needs 2 cycles and that's all

[gritty olive]

@drifting quest can you record no essence laev do a simple N5 rot

[languid onyx]

oh ic thx

[drifting quest]

ill see if obs is unbricked

[oblique galleon]

Just stream on an empty channel and clip it

[drifting quest]

i need obs for other tc stuff anyway

so it gives me the excuse to actually check

[dry kindle]

What's 1 cycle breakpoint for p4

Laev

[drifting quest]

lmk if you ever find out

[oblique galleon]

You can 1 cycle?

[placid steeple]

Oh god I thought your pfp was power from csm but neco arc

[oblique galleon]

[placid steeple]

[gritty olive]

.pepe

[tranquil burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086673530314832/1267577150551363685/lowlight_dance.gif

[oblique galleon]

Stop reminding me of bad memories

[placid steeple]

Happy birthday

[oblique galleon]

Gonna have sushi tmrw

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-arknights-gif-14296590546014636549

[placid steeple]

Here’s your cake, Denji

[oblique galleon]

All hail Namie

[drifting quest]

the one time i record it takes 14 years to load rhodan

[placid steeple]

Fr

So funny seeing cosplayers reenact grooming

😭

Cuz they don’t read the manga or get the story

[gritty olive]

@drifting quest no need to record

just tally N1 N2 N3 N4 N5 damage if you can

[dry kindle]

Idfk anymore

Where's the blue name nerd

[gritty olive]

opal

[drifting quest]

n1 1116 crit
n2 565 x 2
n3 1155
n4 590x3
n5 1232x2

loading back in for n1 no crit

744

[gritty olive]

1. same kit as this?
2. can you remove her gear and give her a weapon that doesnt buff int or str

[drifting quest]

yeah

[gritty olive]

is this essenceless

[drifting quest]

yes

[sudden lichen]

went for tide last rite, also got ancient (xiranite?) set for ardelia, getting lynx for xaihi

[digital scroll]

hi sorry for the backread ping but where are these numbers from? i couldnt find these anywhere in the game. do we have some kind of collective directory outside of it for this?

[sudden lichen]

fluorite gets nothing

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

p0 l1 contingent measure
121 str 237 int
854 atk
p1 124
p2 94 x 2
p3 192
p4 98 x 3
p5 205 x 2

[gritty olive]

i need raw stats for intellect and strength

because im basing my base stats from this wiki

[drifting quest]

i have the trust bonuses

i cant turn them off

[dusky patio]

yeah is there a link to it

sorry i was cooking

[manic blade]

deep dive marble is so fucked

[drifting quest]

trust bonus is 60 int

[gritty olive]

its just +20 intelelct no?

[drifting quest]

60

[gritty olive]

its not cumulative?

[drifting quest]

no

first is 10, then 15 x 2, then 20 more

60 total

[dusky patio]

its seperate

[manic blade]

only one I can't fkn beat

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=176567840#gid=176567840

[drifting quest]

hence why im 60 int more than the example you sent

[dusky patio]

that affinity thing is important

for operators

[gritty olive]

i already added 20

[dusky patio]

but thank god its a 1 time thing

[gritty olive]

idk where youre stemming extra 40 from

[drifting quest]

the other 3 trust nodes

[dusky patio]

ty

[gritty olive]

no you said you are +60, and im +20

[drifting quest]

its 60

[gritty olive]

so im just missing +40?

[drifting quest]

yeah

the trust bonus is +60

you're only counting the last node

all 4 count

+10+15+15+20

i misread earlier

[dusky patio]

does the wuling essence rift have a higher chance to hit 3/3 perf lines?

i checked on essence tools hub and it says wulings has a higher chance for some reason

makes no sense why a diff area has higher rates hmm

[drifting quest]

the other one doesnt have the chance to drop the 3rd

presumably

e.g. for laev i dont think the valley 4 one can drop atk

[gritty olive]

is this now onpoint

[dusky patio]

oh rly..

let me check i guess

[drifting quest]

for just wep and laev?

[gritty olive]

is this basic m3?

[gritty olive]

yeps

[drifting quest]

no thats sl9

ive only m1'd ult

waiting for bp

[gritty olive]

ill adjust the numbers temporarily for sl9

[drifting quest]

im 289 int with just her and wep

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

am i putting gear back on

[gritty olive]

yeah go

this gear

[drifting quest]

222 str 523 int

3797 atk

[gritty olive]

agl and will?

99,89?

[drifting quest]

99 89

[gritty olive]

holy shiy

im getting 104 extra somewhere

how much int does forgeborn give

[drifting quest]

52 at 3/9

which is base

[gritty olive]

wait whats 3/9?

thats locked by what

[primal ocean]

essence adds up to 6 levels

[gritty olive]

im assuming max essence then

[dry kindle]

Mfw already

This is cbt2 right

[gritty olive]

is it that hard to gather for f2p

[dry kindle]

Yes.

[primal ocean]

this is live data

[drifting quest]

you can max essence if you spend sanity pots

[dry kindle]

How the fuck

[drifting quest]

and get lucky

[dry kindle]

Rigged

[primal ocean]

get lucky

[drifting quest]

mfw 10 goes at 'high' rng

0 hit

[dry kindle]

Aren't +5 and 6 sub 1% rolls or some shit

[gritty olive]

im using max essence stats then

should i account for max essence weapon or nah

i kinda dont want to remake these sheets

[drifting quest]

its guaranteed so might as well

[dry kindle]

Is 208% ult laev the breakpoint for 1 cycle or what

[drifting quest]

thats what others have said

i havent checked

im not artificing gear

[placid steeple]

How did you get that :

[gritty olive]

@drifting quest what buff are you getting with atk% and int with your current statline so i can manually subtract some stuff

[primal ocean]

Get lucky

[placid steeple]

Skill

[drifting quest]

no essence is 52 int 13% atk

16% heat% and 75% basic dmg%

[dry kindle]

I don't hate myself enough to find out how energy works

[gritty olive]

alright

how much total heat% are you getting

[drifting quest]

16% forgeborn
50% conditional of hot work set bonus
19.2% gloves

[gritty olive]

is this onpoint

[gritty olive]

im gonna ignore the conditional for now

[drifting quest]

3797 atk

om

[dry kindle]

What's the blue role nerd name again I forgor

[drifting quest]

huh

[brittle magnet]

Question, is akekuri really great for laeva teams? Her sp regen is conditional, only on combo or ult, both rarely happens

[dry kindle]

The nerd with the blue role

[drifting quest]

oh

opal is their nickname iirc

[gritty olive]

moderator

opal

I JUST SAID THEIR NAME EARLIER

[dry kindle]

Yeah

@mystic halo what's the 208% breakpoint for on laev

[gritty olive]

is there something wrong here

each point of main is 0.5% atk buff
each point of sub is 0.2% atk buff

wait i forgot to add flat atk buffs

is there even any

[drifting quest]

510 weapon atk
318 operator atk
107 bonus (via 13% forgeborn)
305.9% attribute bonus
44.% from str
261.5% from int

[gritty olive]

where do i get this bonus from

WHAT

ITS FROM THE WEAPON

[drifting quest]

13% from forgeborn

its 107 not 107%

im just blind

[gritty olive]

@drifting quest

the fucking 13% from weapon is NOT additive to the attribute buffs

[drifting quest]

looks right now

[gritty olive]

this is stupid

[primal ocean]

that looks right

[drifting quest]

yeah

thats why atk% is so good

[gritty olive]

ok ill check surtr

[drifting quest]

it doesnt dilute

with the huge steroid from stats

[dry kindle]

Who knows energy maths

[dry kindle]

Yeah?

[trail ether]

What’s the artificing stat priority for laev?

[dry kindle]

Everything

[trail ether]

Yeah but if I had to choose to minmax my current state

[drifting quest]

if you're gonna do it then yeah everything, but i wouldnt recommend doing it

[trail ether]

Im guessing int?

[trail ether]

Wait why

[dry kindle]

Wuling vouchers aren't real

Go away

[drifting quest]

we dont know what her best set is yet

[dry kindle]

Not tide

[drifting quest]

artificing is giga expensive

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

other games have that being additive to other atk buffs

[dry kindle]

Yeah well this is endfield

[gritty olive]

total fire dmg bonus at base?

[dry kindle]

Where flat atk buffs send you to the moon

[drifting quest]

thats base

no essence

[drifting quest]

^^

[gritty olive]

19.2+16

ok

[dry kindle]

All damage dealt is additive not just heat btw

[gritty olive]

yeah thsts what ive surmised

[dry kindle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

[placid steeple]

Is this the flavour you were looking for @oblique galleon

[deft heron]

So I have a theory I'd like confirmed: The LYNX set says that when healing an allied target, it grants them 15% dmg reduction. Does "allies" count themself? I.e. if the operator with the set heals themself, does it trigger?

I ask because the only 6S greatsword I have is Former Finery, so I equipped it on Ember because she grants herself protection constantly.

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

do you consider yourself as an enemy

[dry kindle]

Yes

[deft heron]

No, but sometimes "allies" specifically means "other characters on your team" instead of "anyone on your team". How does Endfield handle it?

[gritty olive]

that would be worded as "other allies" or "allies other than self"

safe to assume allies also includes user

[deft heron]

Great, so my Ember is correctly an unkillable tank, even if her dmg output isn't the best.

[dry kindle]

Just give yazhen spray and no one dies

[gritty olive]

this shit is calculating incorrectly hold on

[gritty olive]

HOLY SHIT

[dry kindle]

Numbers

[gritty olive]

there is some margin of error, likely due to truncated buffs or base values

[lost heart]

How much of an impact does gear have on your stats at higher levels?

[drifting quest]

A huge amount

[lost heart]

by huge do you mean like it doubles values or something?

[dry kindle]

At least 4

[drifting quest]

More than double

[lost heart]

wow crazy

[gritty olive]

@primal ocean can you try doing a simple N5 string on laev

[dry kindle]

Idk why you even ask base gear takes like 10 minutes

[drifting quest]

Laev attack gearless to laev attack with just gear is like x4 yeay

[gritty olive]

assuming you have this gear as well

[lost heart]

I am not high level. My units are still lvl 20

[dry kindle]

Less yapping more farming

[primal ocean]

With max essence?

[valid zealot]

I love human calculators.

[drifting quest]

Im gonna try get some more hours sleep just ping me if you need anymore more and I'll check it when I get back

Anymore more

Anything more

[placid steeple]

Only worry about gears once you get wuling unlocked

[gritty olive]

yes

[placid steeple]

@drifting quest

[dry kindle]

What's energy gen maths

[placid steeple]

I need you.

[sly nymph]

does the endgame mode require two teams or what

[placid steeple]

Desperately

[valid zealot]

You should sleep.

[sly nymph]

the one releasing february

[valid zealot]

3

[placid steeple]

Please just one chance

[valid zealot]

runfast

[gritty olive]

so far im going to just put the crit values later

[primal ocean]

what do you want me to attack

[sly nymph]

3 teams?

[drifting quest]

Ill maybe do it at the weekend

[gritty olive]

the goons in wuling city

[placid steeple]

Fine ignore your biggest fan

[dry kindle]

Just ignore crit

5% rate isnt real

[primal ocean]

Ok give me a few

[gritty olive]

seconds, go take your time

just make sure to not activate certain conditonals

if this matches

i can now proceed on handling reaction damage

[placid steeple]

okay have fun

[dry kindle]

300hp 🔥

[normal relic]

Can someone explain why some sites want me to use 2x Hot Work Pyrometer on Wulfgard when it offers Intellect while the other option offers STR/AGI for his main stats?

[gritty olive]

fragile ass mf

[valid zealot]

I love theorycrafters.

[gritty olive]

oh its you vit

i remember you from hsr

[valid zealot]

Prob because they prioritize another off-piece.

[valid zealot]

DRHANATT

[primal ocean]

your attack is off

[valid zealot]

I'm so moved.

[primal ocean]

mines at 5459

[gritty olive]

how much

hm

[primal ocean]

everything else looks right

[gritty olive]

whats your attribute buff%

[gritty olive]

[dry kindle]

90 90?

[primal ocean]

yes

wait

let me double check

[gritty olive]

this is correct

[primal ocean]

i think i activated a buff

in wuling tp

[gritty olive]

oh youre in wuling

[primal ocean]

idk if that counts

[dry kindle]

That upgrade is such a pain in the ass

[gritty olive]

yeah im very dumb, go elsewhere

[primal ocean]

ok

yeah you're good

[gritty olive]

try another N5 string

[lost heart]

Is there a resource for character stats at different levels or enemy stats?

[gritty olive]

i have them all catalogued for character stats, but only at 90

[lost heart]

of course

[gritty olive]

unless you need something else

[lost heart]

i guess most people wouldnt need lower level stuff

[gritty olive]

enemy def multiplier rn seems to sit at 0.5

[normal relic]

What is this spreadsheet? Custom or a public resource?

[gritty olive]

public sourced stuff but catalogued to my needs

[valid zealot]

Goated.

[normal relic]

Can you link or can I find it with a specific google search if you can't link

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=176567840#gid=176567840

[dry kindle]

Its 0.5 overall yes

Assume element resist is 1.0 unless you hate yourself

[gritty olive]

like hsr

ill assume the res formula is 100% + RESIGNORE% - ENEMYRES%

[dry kindle]

There's no 1.2 afaik it's just 1 or 0.8

[dry kindle]

I already sent the doc

[gritty olive]

ok

ill link it

[ember stag]

Is it worth lv up to 90

[gritty olive]

slow but a grind is a grind

[valid zealot]

My other operators are homeless.

[primal ocean]

did 2 tests and got the following dmgs

[gritty olive]

thank you

[primal ocean]

1106
839x2
1717
877x2
1831x2

[gritty olive]

im off consitently by 24%

@primal ocean whats your unconditional dmg%?

[dry kindle]

Have fun finding it

[primal ocean]

Heat DMG bonus is at 44.8

[gritty olive]

wouldnt these offer some heat dmg% as well?

gauntlets give 19.20

[primal ocean]

19.20 (gauntlets) + 25.6 (weapon max essence)

[gritty olive]

wait you might be fighting enemies with resistance

[noble nebula]

which one?

[dry kindle]

Resist is 0.8 not 75

[gritty olive]

yeah 0.8

[primal ocean]

what has no res

[dry kindle]

Just go slap fraudagn

He's 1x all

[noble nebula]

these are all my characters

[gritty olive]

within 1% margin of error. thank you @primal ocean

[dry kindle]

Time to timeline the entire test bud

[primal ocean]

looks good

[dry kindle]

Inb4 basic skill level difference

[primal ocean]

mines lvl9

[gritty olive]

i still need to know how damage works for elemental interactions

[dry kindle]

Same as "physical" x base element numbers x arts intensity

[gritty olive]

how does arts% work

[gritty olive]

so thats in arts%

[dry kindle]

Aka Total Damage = Base Damage × Critical Hit × Damage Bonus × Damage Reduction × Vulnerability × Amplification × Sanctuary × Susceptibility × Defense × Stagger × Resistance × Non-Controlled Operator Damage Reduction × Special Bonus × Arts Base% × Arts Intensity%

[gritty olive]

and its not like transformative reactions(read: hyperbloom) with EM in genshin

[gritty olive]

"vuln x amplification" what

[gritty olive]

your basic is at m3 correct?

[primal ocean]

no

[gritty olive]

i calculated that with m3 basic

[primal ocean]

oh

[gritty olive]

wtf

if thats the case l9 -> m3 is a 25% increase

[primal ocean]

i never actually looked at the numbers for m1-3

[dry kindle]

+damage taken

[dry kindle]

Not worth 6 crowns

You're welcome

[primal ocean]

sounds good to me

[gritty olive]

adjusted numbers

[dry kindle]

🔥

[valid zealot]

Unlimited content.

[dry kindle]

Do I have to dig through cn for energy maths

[plucky pagoda]

tell me the results

[dry kindle]

Nou

[gritty olive]

yes

[dry kindle]

Djes

[gritty olive]

hit with the cant read chinese debuff

[valid zealot]

I'm a visual learner but wtf is that.

[gritty olive]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[valid zealot]

Sorry for playing the same game.

[mellow hedge]

What lv70 kits do I use for Laevathain?

[mellow hedge]

Thanks

[gritty olive]

its whats recommended to me, but im gonna try to sim all of these hopefully later

[mellow hedge]

What does arts intensity do anyways?

[gritty olive]

arts skill intensity?

[errant urchin]

Is there limit for this?

[mellow hedge]

Yes that

[errant urchin]

ultimate efficiency

[valid zealot]

Nein.

[errant urchin]

so thats a fine buuild or no?

[mellow hedge]

But isnt there already a ult efficiency stat tho?

[gritty olive]

seems no

[waxen atlas]

can I keep Ardelia at 3 / 9 / 3 / 3 or do her other stuff have value?

[valid zealot]

Can you do the lynx slab off piece build.

Onegai.

[gritty olive]

what piece is that

lynx armor?

[dry kindle]

Its ingame

[dry kindle]

Lynx gear +main stat

3 heatwork

[mellow hedge]

Oh that's where it is

[gritty olive]

what

wait hold on

[valid zealot]

This 1.

[dry kindle]

Yeah

Hate crime

Who needs usable ult rotations

[valid zealot]

My energy calc is really off so Idk how much impactful is the tide surge armor is.

[dry kindle]

[valid zealot]

Sadge

[gritty olive]

ill try

[valid zealot]

Luv u Morb.

[gritty olive]

but not now. i still dont know energy mechanics

how does surtr apply combust

[valid zealot]

EBSkill.

[gritty olive]

[shut cobalt]

is there already smth like wuwa, zzz char build guides thats reliable for this? no prydwen isnt reliable at all

[valid zealot]

Check #team-build pin

[tacit bloom]

https://arknightsendfield.gg/arknights-endfield-tier-list/ been using this. seems decent

[dry kindle]

Iana sheet pinned

[valid zealot]

Is it good or is it bad.

AmiyaRaveL

[gritty olive]

wtf they know energy

i need to know

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[dry kindle]

Good

Also means I can spam this

[acoustic furnace]

where is that from?

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=245588407#gid=245588407

[valid zealot]

icant

[acoustic furnace]

Thank you

[gritty olive]

im just calcing for now

its WIP

as seen by char final stats still having HSR stats

[dry kindle]

Im busy staring at a wall because 0 stam

[shut cobalt]

wait, is this reliable?

[valid zealot]

irl stam?

[dry kindle]

Yes

[valid zealot]

It's pin in official game server duh.

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[dry kindle]

Send xp

[valid zealot]

What else do you expect brotherman.

[valid zealot]

My Ake still naked man.

I'm broke too.

😔

[dry kindle]

Pretty sure the sp is there for Perlica so

[valid zealot]

Nein.

[sly nymph]

ult gen stacking on pog feels so good

[valid zealot]

Daddy Pogmegranate keeps calling men on me.

[gritty olive]

im content with my progress rn so im just gonna play more genshin for columbina sig

[valid zealot]

AmiyaRaveL

Please don't abandon me.

[gritty olive]

no one is active here

so yeah

[valid zealot]

I am nobody.

aIremsadMW

[dry kindle]

Im just stuck afking till my rite team exists

[valid zealot]

Running out of sanity (irl).

[lost heart]

i woudl give you my extra stamina item if i could, i dont really need them

[old mica]

[grand lion]

does anyone know the math behind navigator? how much worse it is compare to yvonne's sig and wedge?

[vestal imp]

do yall think surtur and perlica could team

[valid zealot]

Can, but there's better options.

[dry kindle]

Dont even bother without sig

[modest thorn]

how far into the future did the closed beta go?

[dry kindle]

Same as live

[valid zealot]

Yvonne.

[modest thorn]

so we don't know about any new operators yet

[valid zealot]

Correct.

[modest thorn]

gotcha thanks

[sly nymph]

where id the recipe for the peculiar concoction item

the purple consumable that increases ult gen

[valid zealot]

Perplexing Medication.

[sly nymph]

yeah that one

XDDD

ok i googled and probably from “feed the long ears” quest

[safe sand]

are combo skill damage bonus and all skill dmg bonus seperate multipliers

[vagrant sparrow]

what is the phys team?

edmin - ardelia - pog - chen ?

[civic wolf]

optimal laevatain build?

[safe sand]

in this particular team you probably want to sub ardelia for lifeng because you're so starved for vulnerability stacks

[valid zealot]

@gritty olive I think you would want to change edit permission to only you.

[vagrant sparrow]

damn i dont have lifeng 😭

ill pick him from my selector

at 300 in 2030

[gritty olive]

has it been ransacked already

[modest thorn]

thats pretty soon

[valid zealot]

No but just in case.

[gritty olive]

then no it will be free to edit for all until i finalize

[valid zealot]

Weirdge

That is

one interesting approach indeed.

[gritty olive]

im doing that to test the intuitiveness of the sheet

[sly nymph]

do you have a backup lol

[gritty olive]

no

so im at the mercy of version history

[valid zealot]

Ah no the data sheet.

I think you refering to the other one.

[fluid frost]

is this good dmg

[gritty olive]

damage per screenshot is not indicative of "good damage"

[valid zealot]

physical team do be like that

clueless

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884849474583806069/1277773221667541012/speechmemified_pasteimage.gif

[fluid frost]

its his stagger dmg 😔

[valid zealot]

Is Link a separate multiplier.

Thonk

[vagrant sparrow]

just got s5 wolfgard

[gritty olive]

idk

[vagrant sparrow]

maybe now ill stop sucking (i wont)

[valid zealot]

Sadge

[dry kindle]

All +damage dealt are added together

[valid zealot]

🥫 Link?

[safe sand]

so this is additive to something like cryo dmg dealt bonus?

ah i see

if it says "dmg dealt bonus"... i think?

[fluid frost]

he hit higher 🗣️🗣️

[ripe parrot]

hypothetically, how far can you push a level 20 team in re:crisis? I did some testing in rhodagn but I feel like you'll get hard walled by both the fidget spinner and the marble woman boss because they spawn adds

[dry kindle]

No idea what the fuck link is

[valid zealot]

[lost heart]

I think T boss is possible, but I am still working on it

I haven't unlocked that marble boss you mentioned tho

[gritty olive]

how many reactions does this game have

[valid zealot]

Like if it just additive

1.2

[dry kindle]

6 I think

[gritty olive]

i plan to list down all as columns fuck conditionals

[valid zealot]

Urgh

[ripe parrot]

i'm assuming level 1 triagg?

[lost heart]

yes the lvl 60 one is what I am talking about rn. Im not really thinking about the lvl 80 one. idk if I want to do it since it seems like it woudl take too long

[ripe parrot]

it took me 30 minutes to beat rhodagn so I feel like triagg might be a doozy

[lost heart]

ya

it be like that

[lost heart]

are you NA/EU?

[ripe parrot]

yeah

[lost heart]

you got room to add?

[ripe parrot]

yeah i'll give id when i'm out of a test fight

[safe sand]

physical dmg taken is a seperate multiplier from phys. susceptiblity right

[dry kindle]

Ya

[safe sand]

trying to think about whether to pop these crystals or keep them on enemies when doing ult rotations

[dry kindle]

Just

Proc on end of timeline

[safe sand]

b-but my alesh ulti...

hmm

[spare plinth]

Are the "(element) DMG bonus %" buffs additive or multiplicative with "+combo/combat/ult skill damage %" buffs?

[gritty olive]

yes

[ripe parrot]

Pao#1095

[runic tulip]

im using ardel with panda physical team. should i just level up stanza of memorials and not wait for her sig? i dont think her sig would help out since it buffs art damage?

[ripe parrot]

what team are you running? I was doing phys crush because it feels like it has decent flat dmg even at 20

[lost heart]

sent

[outer ermine]

rhodagn pls stop going into phase2 ty much

[safe sand]

im getting dps checked so hard 😭

[lost heart]

I am doing something physical rn I guess, but I have played with all the 4 and 5 star units

[gritty olive]

whats the rotation agani for laeva akekuri wulfgard ardelia

[ripe parrot]

(while auto comboing) ake battle skill -> wulf combo -> final strike -> ardelia combo -> ardelia battle skill (wait until corrosion pops) -> laeva combo

[karmic perch]

does anybody know how ulti gain works when it comes to decimals? ie if you were to gain 25.5 energy would it round up/down/nearest full number or not at all?

[gritty olive]

pretty sure it will always be truncated like in HSR

its 24.0193718327108371883, but you can only see 24

[gritty olive]

my current simmer will always do combo whenever possible

looks like this currently

[valid zealot]

No EBSkill?

[outer ermine]

do we know the threshold for this stupid phase 2 its so inconsistent skipping and not skipping

[valid zealot]

Or I missed something prior.

[gritty olive]

the magmastacks are still at 2 or 3

so yeah

[valid zealot]

Don't u have 4 after first seq in ult.

Thonk

[ripe parrot]

I want to say it's either 66 or 70%

[gritty olive]

ake E and wulf combo is two magma

[karmic perch]

oh ok cool thanks

[manic blade]

is tide fall still best for laevatain even with p4?

[safe sand]

does time you spend pre-buffing in boss battles count toward the trim timers

[valid zealot]

What's the control column.

[gritty olive]

its a tracker of mine to check the latest action

action before that, so i can do like N1 N2 -> skill -> N3 N4 N5

[chilly basin]

does ultimate dmg bonus affect the boosted batk's of laevatain

[gritty olive]

no

i have an infographic on this with HSR

[chilly basin]

aw

[outer ermine]

hmm so atleast on S

kinda far w/o food buff ig

[gritty olive]

unless its like raiden shoguns ult in genshin, its best to assume transformation ults are not going to be affected by ult/skill dmg

[valid zealot]

Sky Priest Clara forever a dream.

3794pepecry

[ripe parrot]

what challenge are you doing?

[summer flower]

Ehh? If transformation gives extra dmg to hits / abilities

Its just if they going to or not

Or if they did or not

[valid zealot]

If it doesn't specify the BA damage dealt in ultimate status is treated as ultimate damage it won't benefit from ultimate damage.

Simple as that.

[tough ledge]

who is stronger in full physical team Da Pan or MC ?

[gritty olive]

relevant

[summer flower]

Its genshin

Ffs

I don't think its same company making both games

[valid zealot]

Da Pan with sig & high pot.

[gritty olive]

yeah but its best to assume it doesnt, at least for transformation based abilities

[summer flower]

I would not expect stat boost be affected

[gritty olive]

if it were, it would be eveident as how musou isshin is labeled

[tough ledge]

Da Pan Pot 3 with Exemplar ? My MC with Grand Vision

[summer flower]

U expect dmg or additional dmg to be affected

[valid zealot]

Your team is Pog Lifeng Chen right?

[summer flower]

Okay i could test on leviathan

[gritty olive]

lmk

[summer flower]

Just need no primary / secondary stat gear with ability dmg and something useless on other

[tough ledge]

No lifeng, i use catcher

[summer flower]

Gonna check this out then

[safe sand]

any ideas on other dps rotations? i think this is it

[glossy ether]

does anyone know if essences low/high roll affects the max you can etch an essence to?

this one is all right stats but starting 1/1/1

[safe sand]

i dont think it does

[summer flower]

Wait i don't

I have ember

[valid zealot]

Uhh gotta summon THE catcher user™ @plucky pagoda

[plucky pagoda]

Hello

[gritty olive]

[plucky pagoda]

Catcher is better than Ember in physical teams unless you want more sustain

[summer flower]

Anybody Has leviathan to test ultimate dmg?

[gritty olive]

me

[summer flower]

Different context

[valid zealot]

No no that's not what you got summoned for.

[gritty olive]

what should i craft

[plucky pagoda]

What team

[summer flower]

Check decription of ultimate

[plucky pagoda]

Oh I see

Catcher is only good for physical teamd

[tough ledge]

which is one is stronger ? MC or Dapan in Chen/Pog/Catcher team ?
Da Paan Pot 3 with Exemplar and MC with grand vision

[valid zealot]

How consistent is catcher at applying 2 stacks.

[valid zealot]

So he can decide on Da Pan or Endmin.

[plucky pagoda]

Da Pan, how do you activate his combo skill again rq I forgot

[valid zealot]

4 invul.

[plucky pagoda]

More consistent than Chen without Lifeng but Chen is still needed for combo

[summer flower]

Okay, so is that affected by ultimate dmg?

[valid zealot]

It's Pog Chen catcher.

[plucky pagoda]

Oh he's very good, it only takes 180 SP to apply 3 stacks of vulnerability with Catchers skills, and then Chen combo adds the fourth stack

[gritty olive]

unless its stated that its damage, idts

[summer flower]

Fire dmg on basics should be affect imo

[gritty olive]

but ill try

[valid zealot]

Gotchu, go Da Pan.

[plucky pagoda]

You just need to time it

[gritty olive]

it shouldnt since its transofmration

[summer flower]

Each attack dealing jest damage

[tough ledge]

Thanks @valid zealot @plucky pagoda

[plucky pagoda]

Np

[summer flower]

Based on what? On genshin?

[valid zealot]

Just a thought but who u personally like more.

[gritty olive]

based on the ultimate not dealing damage on its own

[summer flower]

What's next, zelada logic being applied?

[gritty olive]

its ULTIMATE DAMAGE

[plucky pagoda]

Anything listed under ultimate scalings

[gritty olive]

so if its a transformation, it doesnt deal damage, so it shouldnt count as ultimat damage

[tough ledge]

i just like Pog lol xD he has cool vfx

[summer flower]

Who else Has transformation?

[valid zealot]

Does ult damage affect Lae's ult state BA dmg.

OkaygeBusiness

[gritty olive]

ill change my xiranite armor to frontiers armor

[plucky pagoda]

Is it under ultimate scalings

[gritty olive]

atk changes from 2733 -> 2667, but i gain 25.9% more damage, while having 35.2% more damage

[valid zealot]

*nod

[plucky pagoda]

Then Ult multiplier affects the bas

[valid zealot]

Did we get a winner.

[plucky pagoda]

You can always practically test it

[gritty olive]

im gonna

[plucky pagoda]

I don't have Laev

[gritty olive]

3294 xiranite

[summer flower]

So we got conclusion or do i have to pull?

[gritty olive]

im still getting 300 energy

[valid zealot]

The debate is "Does ultimate damage increase Lae's basic attack damage in ult state" am I right.

[summer flower]

Yes

[valid zealot]

One last clarification before I mald.

[gritty olive]

the answer is no

[summer flower]

Okay, and how did you test it exaclty?

[lost heart]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-flintstone-abacus-the-flintstones-bookkeeping-calculation-gif-23218851

[gritty olive]

test it with xiranite armor and frontiers armor

[summer flower]

They have different stats don't they?

[gritty olive]

this should be the difference

[summer flower]

You need single piece test instead, where both pieces don't have dmg increasing stats

[dry kindle]

What are laev main stats again

[gritty olive]

wait

[summer flower]

Int/str

[valid zealot]

Swordmancer fists & mi security gloves.

[chrome flax]

int main str 2nd

[valid zealot]

Same stat, one is ult dmg one is battle skill dmg.

Should do the job.

[dry kindle]

Gg

[gritty olive]

2781/2849 should be the formula if the dmg bonus from ult doesnt count

[dry kindle]

No pieces without either

[gritty olive]

shold be the same with 3216/3294

[dry kindle]

Go test

[summer flower]

Man, that's good find, you did that quick

[gritty olive]

their atk ratios are equal, so the ult dmg bonus doesnt affect transformation skills

[summer flower]

You didnt had time to test it i think

Man i'm gonna tempted to pull if this is going to look like this

Cause i'm malding

[gritty olive]

malding on what

[summer flower]

This was told before hand

Same stat works as well

[valid zealot]

Nope it does not buff.

Let me crop videos real quick.

[gritty olive]

until corrosion pops is kinda idk

should i code laev combo such that she uses it when corrosion timer is <2 seconds?

[summer flower]

Ohh, okay waiting then to see

[ripe parrot]

if you don't you won't get dmg amp from ardelia

[gritty olive]

so i should code it that the cell above it doesnt has corrosion, but the cell below it doesnt. ill try

[valid zealot]

Swordmancer fists & mi security gloves, rest unequipped.

[summer flower]

Nice, thanks

That's some decent testing

Debacle finished

Knowlege gained

[valid zealot]

batbrain

[gritty olive]

@valid zealot

can you try this rotation

see if you still have a skill point ready after akekuri skill

[valid zealot]

N5 as in do 3 full seq?

[gritty olive]

yeah

[valid zealot]

Nvm I just looked at the left.

[gritty olive]

see thats why im still keeping on edit until further notice

but the conditionals arent intuitive enough

[valid zealot]

Where do I weave Arde combo in.

Or just asap.

[gritty olive]

all combos asap, except for surtr. try to put her combo as late as possible

@valid zealot im doing this cuz like, im still theorizing on how many SP is this shit

[valid zealot]

Where do I find stationary target.

icant

[gritty olive]

go with rhodoggan or something

[safe sand]

Local punching bag

[gritty olive]

whats important is you hit the N5s

[valid zealot]

Dodging grant sp.

[gritty olive]

can you cancel the hit after dodge

by jumping

[unique idol]

so annoying when games give vague descriptions like that

[gritty olive]

im currently putting it a 20% of a bar, so 20 points

im currently assuming one sp bar is regenerated every 15 seconds

[valid zealot]

Which skill is that.

[gritty olive]

basic attacks

[valid zealot]

So it's just to figure out how much sp does finisher generate?

[gritty olive]

finisher is another thing im gonna kms first before that

at least i need to learn how much N5s generate for now

[valid zealot]

The part you screenshoted is the finisher.

[dry kindle]

Oh have fun with that

Its per character specific

[gritty olive]

oh

fuck

n5 also gives back SP

[dry kindle]

Iirc they're all in a 14-20 range

[gritty olive]

ill assume it to be 20 for calcs

until i get proper scalings

[tight haven]

yeah i did some small testing back in cbt2 and im pretty sure it depends on how long a batk sequence takes

which is ostensibly how they decide how much stagger they deal on finals too

[valid zealot]

First is Lae second is Da Pan

So ig weapon dependant?

[gritty olive]

ill forward this to me

pixel counting time

[valid zealot]

xdd

[dry kindle]

Operator dependant

[gritty olive]

finishers as well?

[dry kindle]

Enemy dependant

[gritty olive]

enemy, but not op depedent?

[dry kindle]

Yep

Have funnnnnnn

Also the 14-20 was a lie

Last rite is 30 sp

[valid zealot]

Yeah you're alone on this.

I'm out.

PES_Exit

[dry kindle]

Ember 28

[gritty olive]

where do you know this

[dry kindle]

Laev gives 20 on a5 and 22 on ea4

[valid zealot]

Forbidden knowledge zzz.

[wintry hazel]

Would u go catas glove on perlica or pulsar glove?
Pulsar glove gives 19% electric dmg while catas glove gives +24 art intensity
Perlica set is already full of art intensity and she's used for that purpose but not sure if I should make her sub dps/more burst than relying avy

[outer ermine]

just speedrun

[lone jungle]

whats the best guide for Pog guys

[heady jungle]

Should I try using flourite to active last rite dmg since it proc faster and less annoying ?

[wintry hazel]

Flurite is for consistency while perlica is for burst

Depends on ur playstyle

[heady jungle]

I mean using flourite as main slot to proc last rite battle skill

It is worth it

[ripe parrot]

Fluorite 40s combo skill cd blurgh

[dry kindle]

No

What's laevatains full standard comp rot

[vagrant sparrow]

how da fuq do ppl get enough skill points for this laevatain antal wulgard ardelia team
everyone using damn skill points

[dry kindle]

Timeline better

[thorn shore]

I struggle more with waiting on these bums to get off their combo cooldown

Especially not having p5 wulf

[dry kindle]

Still need the rotation

[ripe parrot]

see above

[dry kindle]

Ok the numbers are not numbering

[valid zealot]

Can't help, you have to drag the combo for sp.

Unless Ake Antal.

[gusty saffron]

I just notice that in damage formula, level gap is not affecting it.
So quick question if anyone know already:

• Is leveling up from 80 to 90 is not that necessary? I mean, considering the amount of energy/sanity to farm all the materials needed for character level up (sanity needed from 80 to 90), is it probably better to first prioritize maximizing skill level and weapon level first to level 80-equal, before starting to level up from 80 to 90?

[valid zealot]

Spam detected mods banish him to the shadow realm.

[valid zealot]

90 is for minmaxing.

[wintry hazel]

for essence farming, would u choose secondstat of weapon skill or the 2nd stat bonus e.g atk boost or supression(unique weapon skill)

[valid zealot]

Unique first, always.

[wintry hazel]

So first 3 stat , and unique?

[valid zealot]

Uh

1 sec

[wintry hazel]

I thought it would be better if I just farm like

[dry kindle]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

[wintry hazel]

I mean like I thought it would be better to farm for 2 weapons essence at once

[gusty saffron]

So, would you suggest I farm to level up my skill level first (they are not max yet at char lv 80), before farming these lv 80 ascension material to unlock lv 90?

[valid zealot]

Not android compatible.

[wintry hazel]

Lets say I have jet
Which need main att, atk% and supress
While obj needs agility, atk% and flow
So I choose main att, agility, will for first slot
As for second unique? Or attack% and hope it rolls on all

[dry kindle]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

[wintry hazel]

I'm mobile

[dry kindle]

So am i

[valid zealot]

Client side exception something blah blah.

Nvm chrome is just ass.

So yeah go to that site.

[valid zealot]

I love you.

[wintry hazel]

Well if I open that side my endfield gonna close itself

[valid zealot]

[wintry hazel]

But anw worth it

[charred fractal]

err been on fence whether i should e4 fluorite and xaihi or not

cuz if i dont i can move on to laevatain

[wintry hazel]

It won't load for me tho

[dry kindle]

What for 🗿

[wild sparrow]

is there any content that goes in depth on laev rotations? like i know what they all do but i'm not used to the ui enough to visually track everything just yet

[charred fractal]

yah see

so ig i wont

was just thinking if their skill masteries are game changing or not...

[dry kindle]

Do you have 6 crowns per skill

🗿

[dry kindle]

In en doubt it

[charred fractal]

time to e4 laev i suppoose

[wild sparrow]

do you know if there are any from cn? the language barrier won't be too much of an issue

[dry kindle]

Nope

[valid zealot]

[wild sparrow]

time to learn mandarin then

[wintry hazel]

So unique comes first or atk%?

[dry kindle]

Wut

[valid zealot]

3rd passive first.

The "unique", you call.

[wintry hazel]

Okay

[drifting quest]

Rotation advice generally assumes whacking a near stationary single target right now

Too much of the post first rotation is vibes based driving

[wild sparrow]

true..

my main issue is that i sometimes have to hold my laev ult because i forgot to set up sus ahead of time

[drifting quest]

Comes with experience

[wild sparrow]

also true..

[manic blade]

If I make a custom piece for laev what should I put on it? I’d assume like twilight atk boost and idk int/ main stat?

[sick minnow]

what the difference between standrd and good match>??? for artificing \

is it just chance better or

[manic blade]

I think so

[real mist]

is JET only better better for avywenna than a maxed cohesive is because JET makes it easier to farm essence?

[drifting quest]

Essences for weapons should be 3/3

If you're lucky you sack like a 3/1/2 pip or something

Mine was 1/1/1

[real mist]

yes but JET has atk/will compared to cohesive which has elec + will, which makes it harder to farm even with etch

[dry kindle]

[real mist]

it seems that 6 star weapons are just overall easier to farm as intended?

[drifting quest]

Easier? No

[real mist]

nvm not all 6 star weapons has 2 attribute stats

[real mist]

having 2 attribute stats makes it easier no? considering you can only choose 1 secondary stat

[wintry hazel]

Think I should settle w this?

[real mist]

even though it doesn't make sense to give avy arts buff maybe the easeness of farming for essence just makes it better

[manic blade]

has anyone beaten deep dive marble?

also... like is it even worth using passes for a 3/3

[real mist]

wait I just realized atk boost isn't attribute boost dang

[drifting quest]

Beaten it? Yeah
Trimmed? No I dont have good food buffs yet

[real mist]

is will better than electric dmg %?

main att vs elec dmg %

[fickle turret]

When do you guys think can the first balance patch be expected? And is it common to buff 4-star characters? The power level between some of them seems so big…

[drifting quest]

year(s) if ever

its also likely that only ever 6*'s recieve preferrential treatment

[fickle turret]

I see, then how common is it to add standard 6-stars and below?

[drifting quest]

as in adding limiteds to standard pool? they've said they're not doing it in endfield

[fickle turret]

No just straight up adding new standard 6-star characters

[heavy fossil]

endfield is already very different from og ak so hard to know

i’d guess it’ll model its main competitors

[drifting quest]

new standards maybe years down the line

[fickle turret]

or new 5 and 4-stars

[drifting quest]

new 4 or 5 stars probably will come just sporadically

[heavy fossil]

we really don’t know yet but my guess is very rarely. They’ve already teased some future characters and I have a hard time believing any of them will be 5* or below

[fickle turret]

Hmm, I see. Thanks for the answers

I am fairly new to gachas, only played one before so far which is pvp focused. so balance patches are more common of course

[gritty olive]

Is this an essence that i should be looking for

[heavy fossil]

it can vary quite a lot depending on the gacha

[drifting quest]

you want int + atk% + twilight

nothing else is a consideration

[gritty olive]

But i can only get it in wuling correct

[drifting quest]

you can slap a 2 or 3 int pip on till you win the rng

yes

the valley 4 twilight one doesnt drop atk%