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reactions can live with inflictions on a enemy
the corrosion is gone by the time ake skills anyway
ok if I finished the artifice it would go over 5000 and I like that
tide fall light armor is a T0 unit fr
or well no you just
Estella applies cryo right?
can reactions stack
ard combo again
you can have any number of reactions active at once
but they have 1 stack max
Oh i think that the current def mult is 0.5
so 2 sources of corrosion just resets corrosion cd
How decent is wedge of a 6 star for wulfgard?
I figured fairly decent since he can use its passive
good cope
Oh whats its duration?
like ~20s
but thats for
hard caused ones
ardelia's is specifically temporary corrosion
eyja one lasts for 7s
because it has to be more confusing to tc
p5 makes it last for 4 extra seconds
or a basic seq too in ult
So for here i should just make another column for reactions
yeah
most teams can dip into 2
Two elements max 
Can physical even run two elements?
perlica ardelia yvonne
Cause corrosion doesnt work for physical
you can force ardelia but its not optimal
i think they are a mono only team
she's there for vuln and stanza
Also should i just do elite + enemy? I was planning boss + elite like hsr but eh
Idk how to handle aoe scenarios
she doesnt
For this alluvium?, Are the essances worth it or is there another tier of essances i can pick up
thats your sanity sink
i cannot remember if theres orange/6 star essances or not
just only do it with the permits
ah the arknight classic
we should just lie and tell people there are red essences when there arent
it'll be true eventually surely
i have laevs, ardelias and akekuris since she doesnt need the will from thermite
Im not even gonna bother for essances until vie actually maxed out my lae team
i dont see much point in sinking sanity for supports right now
Ill assume this is the current damage formula
what else am i going to use the sanity on
vertical it
What should i put as the settings for pulling a lae essance
Def mult = 0.5
Res mult = (100%-resignore%+ res%)
where's the m12 90/90
Int, Heat damage boost and?
literally not possible yet outside of whaling
is gilberta better than antal for electric teams? she can trigger electrification way more often so more sp
set int/agi/main and twilight
no
How much does main and sub attribute buff atk
gilb bricks your electric infliction
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do you need electric infliction for electric teams?
whats it do
you can dip into like 5 weapons this way
do you need bread to make a sandwich
For pulling lae specifically, Is this the best essance setup or does she want another secondary/skill boost
omg sorry
but electric team doesnt nee5353326.
omg
im so sorry
my cat pressed my keyboard
Fuck sake 
but electric team can maintain necessary electric infliction even with gilberta
and i got wulfgards 3/3 essence for clannibal
and with that
im done farming essence for the laev team

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Team (Must have this order): Perlica, Gilberta, Arclight, Avywenna
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perlica will always be on field
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No Ults Available: Perlica skill, Final attack, Perlica combo, Gilberta combo, Arclight combo, Avywenna combo, wait 5 seconds, Gilberta skill, Arclight combo, if Arclight combo didn't trigger, wait 4 seconds, use Arclight skill, Arclight combo, Perlica skill, Final Attack, Perlica Combo + Gilberta combo + Avywenna Combo + Avywenna skill
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With Ults: ( ONLY USE ULTS DURING STAGGER FOR MAX OUTPUT )
Before stagger: make sure you've cast ONE Avywenna combo within the last 12-14 seconds.
During Stagger: Perlica skill, Perlica final attack, Perlica combo, Gilberta Combo, Arclight Combo, immediately ult with Gilberta, Arclight Ult, Perlica Ult, Avywenna Ult, Avywenna skill
Stagger will be finished once done. Return to no ult rotation till stagger appears again.
i tried to make a rotation that keeps the electric infliction while doing as many arclight combo skills as possible that allows arclight to max her damage and avywennas damage
arclight ult checks for it, so if you have active nature then the electric applied isnt used by ult part 2
avywenna checks for electric infliction or electrification on combo so if you corrode instead of electrify then it bricks that
something like perlica combo loses value if you already have electrification, same for other sources
ignoring the idea of other units doing more for the same slot if all you ever do is ult on gilb
also maxes perlicas dmg cuz u can use an extra combo
combo loses value if u dont have vulnerability
which gilberta applies
also
electrification is only active for 5 seconds
i think?
which is why im trying to keep it as active as possible
depends on the source
if it lasts for a unique amount of time it tells you
gilb electric team can use the same timeline for both st and AoE
though it actually requires hands
ardelia and perlica combos both specify
e.g. 7s and 5s respectively
i havent confirmed exactly how long default sources last but someone else told me its like 20s
i mean whats base amnt of time
oh
ic
but
arclight consumes the electrification
so perlica can continue to apply more
Why is this site such a pain in the ass 
I mean we already have a timeline
for this team
it just requires some degree of actual mechanics
why do i've a person stating perly is better than wulfgard on lae team
how many successful artificing do yall think ill get on laev with 26 tries
0
honestly better outcome
-1
to get the gear to artifice
be richer
Wuling experience
Just have 24k comps per character you want to build
that is infact 1 of the 2 things you make in wuling to get stock bills
Its that simple
hello theory crafters, do we have best teams comps figured out? every guides and tierlist says something different and idk anymore. i use physical team endmund,pog,lifeng,chen but there are still things im not sure about
comps?
hype for 1.1 for new chars? โ
hype for 1.1 for wuling factory to unbrick? โ
components
lets be honest
Xira components
wuling factory will be bricked until we get all areas of wuling
thats just how itll go
Mono phys
Faceroll keyboard
if you care about current 'endgame' which is just for flex
laev fire >= premium physical > the rest aren't that viable unless you're more whale territory
what premium physical means?
Pogra lifeng
got both of them, pog is even t1
pog lifeng chen dapan
Fuck you
pog, lifeng and chen sounds awsome, but i dont really like that dapan and edmund are both want to consume vuln
endmin is a benchwarmer
How's my damage looking?
I mean you can make it work
endmin is only slotted in when you already have way more damage than you need and want to speedrun something with perfect knowledge of the timeline
and im never sure if i want to consume as pog or edmund, pog recovers and edmund refund SP and recover is better from what i know since refunded SP doesnt contribute ultimate gain
who tf is edmund
endmin
if im trying to play yvonne gilb when gilb banner comes, should i build flourite as second max for now? or what do you recommend
Pog never actives
yippie

idk if its better to consume vuln with breach for dmg buff or just use crush for dmg burst
in lets say boss scenarios
becouse on trash mobs i usually just crush
play the game yoself
and the worst part is that i cant change to dapan atm for more vuln, becouse i pretty much invested everything into edmund xd
i can only hope for tangtang release now so i can switch her
Ew swordmancer
Literally dame team with me but i never see number above 30k lol
i went swordmancer for 3 units and other one for pog. jsut for more stagger, gold gear is not really expensive so it doesnt matter for now i guess ๐ @dry kindle
I mean you can compare investment, could be a difference on that front
I heavily invest in lifeng and pog but you go for chen and dapan
And that seems to be better choice lmaoo
well Pan deals crush, and Chen... I just like Chen the most
u always consume vuln with dapan? or sometimes with pog?
So your rotation is to led to dapan combo?
I try to get buffs set up then unload crush and chen ult asap
also ideally give chen ult link
yeah, but u can even get more buffs (pog breach), thats why im asking becouse i dont know whats better xD raw dmg or more debuffs on enemy ๐
was thinking about breach if i got all ults up, and just crush if not
I alternate Pog and Pan
debuffs
less def is inversely proportional to dmg
i do same thing with crush rn
4 stacks vul, then shatter and crush in same hit*
hey, not sure if this question has been asked before, but are you supposed to go bonekrusha poncho or aethertech plating on last rite
u think we will be ok without support in the team in later endgame? or we will need to swap 1 unit for some kind of healer
is this really true?
either is ok but aethertech is the "default" option
taking damage is skill issue 
prob need 1 healer/supp, full dmg team is gonna be skill-based
yes
wow, prydwen messed up another time!!!! what a shocker!!!!!!!!!!!
no comment
anyways, thanks
is there even any good site with guides? i saw stupid shit in icyveins and mobalitics too (maybe it wasnt stupid and im just stupid not understanding their choice)
not surprised
if i had no life, i'd write one
how long do arts/vulnerable stacks last
vuln is pretty long i think, never had it dropped idk
until you consume it
wait really?
its so long that i dont notice the duration
someone do a timer if they can be asked
its like long enough for u to afk
the timer exists but is quite long
wait, one more thing, whats the best leavatain gear atm then?
if u cant rely on prydwen for a single game and its the only guide up rn
How do you stack vulnerability
there are legitimately situations where they can expire, though
hit a physical status ability
Lift and knockdown
nope there's a timer
crush and breach too but only on first hit*
But dont it consume it after i use it again?
Crush and breach wording are weird
lift and knockdown wont consume vul so u can spam it
huh wait
are there more reputable sources for which armor sets go on what characters?
only crush and breach consume vul
Oooh ty
? @mystic halo since u seem like u know numbers on this game
doesn't that mean you should open fights with endmin skill instead of ch'en skill
thats what i do
Anywhere but youtube
glad u caught on
i do lifeng skill first, then chen reaction, chen skill for 3 vulns stacks. then propably chen skill again and consume or just consume 3 stacks for faster combo becouse im lazy
its how i get 4 stack vul easy
Or prydwen
two sets, charge and fire
charge takes 4 pieces of ult efficiency and artifices them to get energy for ult in 1 standard rotation
facts
fire is tide chest 3x hotwork
I mean it's mainly a difference of aoe, getting 4 stacks is fine, it's just crowd fights
yeah endmin skill has low aoe
4 stack vul is ideal to do on single target fights
yeah
Better aoe than rite 
on crowd fights, u just have to hit what u can and dont try to stack 4 vul on every single enemy
is this the best one between the 2 u said for general use? @mystic halo
the evil outwards expanding fan with deadzones
why starting with endmin? isnt lifeng start best?
last rite is still peak gameplay imo
is the answer to ardelia vs ember just single target vs aoe
he is if you own him
for physical
the guy asked about endmin, not lifeng
charge set preferable for general use but needs artificing so you can use fire for the time being
The answer is not ember
fire set you generally use with a timeline already in mind and enter the instance of whatever you are doing with ults charged
lifeng the goat, phys susc on skill
i c, but when i do get enough for charge set, what IS the charge set? and how many levels on artificing do u need for it to be 1 rot
Resting at tp not charging ult is so aids
she was pretty good with sunshine becosue sun provides hyperarmor
2x charge rate seal, xiranite gloves, tide chest
but guides says sunshine sicks xd
alr, thanks!
The fuck you need hyper armor for
its corrosion + phys&arts susc. Vs 2 stacks vul, a "whatever" shield and "whatever" protection effect
the former is better, ardelia
so u can continue auto attack without interruption xd
how tf did they make a launch unit get powercrewpt by a launch unit ๐ญ
Should i replace ardelia with last rite for more dmg

And brick your xaihi
Outstanding
wait, why dont i see that green thingy in my gear crafting?
who the hell came up with ember's design, nasus has more to his kit
i dont really know what is xaihi for haha ๐
they had many beta phases to "balance" 
Idk
ok so you see
last rite has high str, meaning that she has a lot of hp, and a lot of will which increases her healing received. this increases your room for error ๐ฅฐ
ok so fire set is not necessarily better even with bosses
i actually dont even have her on my account lol
all rng went to physical team
because of the evil and fked up phase transitions
Last rite comps the only place ardelia heal is useful
Truly outstanding
i get the joke
but no it doesnt improve room for "error" (a.k.a not dodging) because taking hits isnt her issue. her issue is not stacking her talent 4 times in time before her combo skill
last rite is all about getting max stacks of cryo inflicton before her combo skill
you might have more damage during your ult
but if the boss just fucks off or goes invuln for more than half of it
well that's a problem isnt it
any etch guides out there
if anyone knows
dont rly wanna spend my own essences to figure it out
gamba
wait, one more thing, how much artificing do u need to get the 1 rotation ult? maxed on all 4?
the breakpoint is 207.7
alr, thanks

I still cant get over it
dorito baits you with being hittable for half a second
and then goes invuln
what char is that gear / breakpoint for
this was the case in cbt1 and they just never changed it it's so unserious
OH HEY, FANCY SEEING YOU HERE :0
LOL
my g
wherever u find well-made gameplay and a tc channel
you shall find me
Just be luckier
You know what, fair play
btw guys when i try to claim sanity for essences i get info that i dont have some kind of permits
what do
oh yeah you're in NA
yea
add me asap, i wanna assist ur ship and sell my elastic goods at your ship at 12,000% ROI
@vocal barn
wait wait wait, u sure just those 4 gear can get that much?
like, u'd need double the amount of base, can artificing get u that far?
Ahw shit wait naw im playin on asia to play with my friends 
Do you have an asia alt LOL
preengrave stats mean i can choose which i want and permit guarantees it?
nope ๐ญ rip
OOOOUUUHHHH
i aint got time for no alts
i got many friends in Asia server as well, it is what it is
i was just reading above if prydwen is not reliable, what site is reliable
Actually wait since you're here 4k
for current builds
Is a max invest 12 questions the way for dps arclight
the two seals give you 33.4% each when artificed because they have more of the secondary stat than normal item in the kit slot
if u dont have white knight nova, i guess so yeah
CN sites with translation ๐
which is why we use them
Surely WNN can't be better when her electrification app is entirely dependant on her ult, right?
WHAT
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WNN IS ACTUALLY BETTER
IS THIS TRUE LMAO
hmm
whats everyones laevs gear set rn?
tide + 3 hot?
I want so desperately to be able to use WNN because it's such a fun idea of a weapon right now
cn site i found before made most sense what i would choose in most cases
got a link?
whats the name?
there is an english document that's been getting passed around
with more or less every team
hang on
sorry, what i meant is
is just those 4 items enough to get the 207.7%?
cuz u need a WHOLE 123% more ultimate gain to get to 207.7, is artificing all 4 even enough for that ?
oh that would be very helpful
give me a sec ill search my (perfectly normal) history
if u cud send us the document
207.7% total so you get 107.7% from these
sorry
base 100%
ohhh, i c that makes sense, thanks
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lol thats what i was thinking when i pulled it up
mb i guess xD
it's pretty complete
wait, sorry but i have one last question, that set works for every laev team or for just specific ones?
:0 neat
if you are doing 1 combo 1 enhanced skill and 2 teammate skills per rotation it will work(this is most normal teams for her)
with antal ake wulfgard it's a bit different and you have to adjust on the fly
alr, thanks
with 207.7% you get it in 1
207.7% in ult gen?
correct
fuck me, everyone says dapan is better than endmin for phys. ill never recover from it
and currently its not possible yes?
you need full artifice on all 4 pieces
115.2% atk + 124 agility.@vocal barnyeah pot6 and max lvl 12 questions should be better than max lvl, pot0 WNN on arclight @vocal barn
so you should use a different set until then
oh ok
Ahw dammit, ahw well I'd given up on WNN anyways
assuming u can stack the passive twice
Im already buying 12 questions off the shop
gl getting pot6 of the weapon
im nots sure if im misplaying but whats the team comp to hit 2 cycle laev ult
with that set
with tide chest?
uhhh let's say you have antal wulf
ok
antal > wulf skill, press combos to build 3 stacks on enemy
heavy to eat the stacks, ardelia combo
ok
then you can just wait til qtes are up again
i'm building 3 teams at the same time right now and arclight is one of my fav characters in my electric team so you got good taste as always bro @vocal barn
ok
my goat
I dont care much for the funny bunny so I'm doing arclight maindps instead
Antal skill - Wulf skill - press combos to build 3 stacks on enemy - heavy to eat stacks - ardelia combo - laev combo hit 4 stacks , her base skill
Very jank setup where she's swapped with wulfgard instead
I might swap wulf out for someone else?
she do be funny
arclight is preferable to me too but i just got a free JET in my arsenal ticket pull for last rite's sig. so i gotta invest in avy too now
@mystic halo so is akekuri not useful then?
she does different things
but the antal one is easier to understand
mhm got it
if you understand what we are trying to do in each cycle
you can apply the same principle with different characters
in the sheet... what gear is laeve wearing i dont see it in my gear tempaltes
is good enuf for any scenario rn
since laev deals with all aoe issues
with her ult
for daily stuff there's not much point to antal take akekuri
ok
the seal you need to buy template from wuling bill shop
I might try that one comp in the sheet? @vernal mortar , there are notes about a psuedo meme comp with Alesh in the last slot which looks like it could be a fun time
ahhh im guessing i gotta upgrade the stock then
I wish Ardellia did nature infliction, because I can't really get her to work in the arclight comp as of now
so i wud just use akekuris skill in place of antals?
get fluorite asap, perfect for this. i also realised how easy it is to stack inflictions with her quite late as well
If she did nature infliction she's be perfect, but she just forces corrosion outright
to follow the same type of procedure in building ult
I do have flourite, but then I'd have to drop antal to make space for her which'd be kinda
Iunno man that's a little scuffed
I might try it though lmao
i like alesh's gameplay but i dont have him fitting in my teams anywhere right now. waiting for yvonne
true, would suck without antal
there is video I found about this
:0
basically when arclight uses stack he can qte
99 was the cap in cbt2 but they lowered it
who knows
so to be exact, while his effect is still on the opponent, he only needs his qte to apply a stack
in the 2nd cycle you would press wulfgard skill for 1 stack, then two qtes for total of 3
antal = 1 stack and then wulf applies 2 right
he cannot apply any stakcs himself without wulfgard triggering combo for him
it's his battle skill
oh ok
when someone applies stack to enemy he is focused on he can combo to apply another stack
oo
if it is a long fight you need to remember to look at the boss hp bar
and reapply the effect when it runs out with his skill
im reading his combo doesnt apply a stack tho
unless im understanding the sequence wrong
u mentioned smth about heavy eat stacks
heavy to eat stacks*
correct
yep which was 2 fire
and apply another stack
oh is that how it works
yes
Ah arts infliction
is any element
now im getting it
ahh so this is why antal is op
this is lae's mechanic where the final hit of the combo consumes the stacks on the enemy into her charges
yes which gives her ult charge
I will take a look at this when i get the time today, and I will probably also try out some different random arclight teams
correct
ok
and each rotation contains 1 combo and 1 enhanced skill from her
- whatever you need from your teammates to get that
ok
she gets 3 from eating the fire stacks on the enemy
and the last one she needs from her own combo
which is triggered by ard combo
yes and now you should know everything you need to
ty 
in regards to that guide then on the doc
wud u say the 207.7
far outweighs
tide set if both are fully artificed
cause u wud be in ult longer
regardless of c0/c5
is using the charge set on laev even worth it? u lose out on this many buffs for a single rot ult
does removing one rot pay off that much?
technically it depends on the fight but your results to time spent ratio is generally going to be better with the charge set
chat when i look on prydwen laeva build guide, its considered using lynx slab is better for laeva, but if we go for raw int the tidefall armor is better in that case, i havent test the comparison between these 2, but which one is better overall?
what would depend?
like her having the ult ready at the start and the fight ending with that single ult or smth like that?
i think it depends how hard the fight is
this is one of the scenarios yes
it depends on the fight
but if you are doing like overworld stuff
you are going to want one cycle ult 100% of the time
and it will improve your experience greatly there
overworld stuff
i c, but what about when the abyss of this game releases? i assume it'll be tough fights all the time
ok
we dunno anything about it at all?
ive properly calculated damage
what's the thing that made u say tidefall is better? is it because of the energy or? from what people say tidefall have better dmg on skill, but lynx have better damage on ult basic
there is a canned set of hard stages coming up but theyre probably going to be onetime and not a conventional abyss or something
slab even gives you less total atk lol
alr, but on tough fights
does charge or heat win?
so just for the energy recharge, aight the
because you have to use the fire set chestpiece which has poor stats for her
they arent very good at stuff like this
true, but main stat boost is what make people consider using it in the first place
tide chest has better stats in the slot and also lets you run fire hands which is great
well the main stat being higher doesnt matter
if your atk is lower...
I guess theoretically with various buffs that might be applied from things like thermite on akekuri
the scaling might work out slightly better
aight then time to change this, and idk is this the right sub, should i level up my sub dps? build a second team? or upgrade her essence(already got the right essence for her)
35.2% fire dmg = 1.352 dmg mult
0.5 def standard = 0.5 def mult
2849 truncated atk = 2849 atk mult
27% N1 = 0.27 scaling mult
no vuln = 1 vuln mult
1.352 * 0.5 * 2849 * 0.27 * 1 = 519.999
but you are still giving up 2 cycle charge for no reason
its on point 
? @mystic halo
like I said
it depends
but I would recommend everyone make charge set
it feels very smooth to play
i meant when it takes more than 1-2 rotations
even without uh the full artifice set?
@drifting quest 
do NOT use it without the full artifice
o
use tide + hot work if you dont have it fully upgraded
im assuming u exp this in cbt
solved at last
to know its fluidity
roughly
i still havent calced with crits
it depends on the killtime and at what point the enemy would die
it
look, man
ill just add consider the mult post calculation, when i tallied every damage
i c, thanks
@shut cobalt is this laev
so u rec ppl to spend the catalysts on laevs charge set?
till its maxed out
ill try to calc it very soon
yeah and then use that one for almost everything
sorry, but one more thing if u were to make and upgrade a set first, i assume u'd want to make the charge one first?
instead of using it on her tide set
cause it feels so nice to play
i see
alr, thanks!

its laev
optimal angle is to save materials till umbral monument drops
then see how it is in monument
yeah im tryna kee style sheets
in cbt was there more heroes than what we have currently?
very soon it should be available
same roster in cbt
only 24 ops were released
oo
same goes here
so we have no clue on how op the newer units are gonna be
we just build with what we got
does someone have 90/90 + max wp surtr
yvonne banner is worth skipping?
im tryna something
since i havent seen a yvonne video im not sure where she lands in power to laev
One person I talked to earlier got max pot surtr but was missing two weapon dupes
Oh @mystic halo very improtant question
in ULT
do u just perma auto atk
even ignoring skills like enhanced and combo
since her dmg is all tied to her weaps buff
she should try to do enhanced skills in ult
and the nature of her surtr
the multiplier is very high
ok
try to do 2 per ult
but ignore combo
im checking if this atk is onpoint
uhhh
since its weak
ok
you can cancel part of its animation, right after she stomps her foot down
try for 2 enhanced and just keep swinging
and have it still come out
just max unit + wp surtr is fine
ok good to know
if it can make you hit a breakpoint, and let you do one less auto combo before you have an enhanced skill, you should do it
ah ok
her combo has very low cooldown so you generally dont have to be worried about it not being ready once your ult ends and you need to charge again
Probably
plsplspls im getting impatient 
What are the numbers
true
wdym what are the no.s
do you have link for this sheet?
Levels weapon atk level int strength
for etching opal let me know if im wrong , u buy engraving tickets to try to force the 3 stats ur weap needs the 2 attributes and the effect
max level, weapon dupe = 1 since 6*
This is what happens when you try to think on cool down
so you can try messing around with the combat timeline for funsies
Someone say time line
this stuff
i got hit with the "cant read chinese" nerf
wait, now that i know prydwen isnt reliable cuz of the onyx slab thingy
these r still the best for these 3, right?
This site really does not like same frame input
someone i know is tryna export a json file for automation when its a TOS breach
that guy istg 
Doesn't akekuri use double xiranite kits
@shut cobalt do you have forgeborn on laev + maxlevel wp and surtr
what do you need
do you have link xd?
checking if this is near
do you want with essence or no essence
here is my gear for reference
no essence since i havent added it in yet
ok let me check
do it without potentials on the weapon (thats what i assume u meant by maxlvl)
those 4 pieces, no artificing, 3 int on wep
im 571 int 222 str 4022 atk
?
max trust
why tf do i have 587
Mandatory counting

maxlvl โ maxdupe
why does it say โโฆsuch skills then applyโ then
just remove the essence
true
is it?
i c
523 int 222 str 3797 atk
Wait you are not supposed to use the slab on the kit part?
wait for more info
dont ask me
going hard on artificing is semi bait right now
anyway
we dont know how live monument will work
build differs based on that
set pieces are cheap so it doesnt matter much
I guess so, also you can just craft more if anything
artificing is turbo expensive
i c, but is the 4 gears for those 3 correct or?
for who
.
ardelia is fine
wulf is potentially but not really
akekuri should probably run xiranite gloves and a second tube for more int
how did you get 587, I get 523
why is wulf not really fine, and why i should probably run that? ur not sure of it or smth?
i artificed ult gen because it seems hella worth
At least it's 0 san
You just need 24k comps per character
but rest i will wait until builds finalise
its the most sanity intensive activity in the game
it costs irl sanity
WE FUCKING LOVE GAMBLING
trying to get a perfect twilight esscence for perlica, what stats are best to lock using the tickets? the twilight skill or arts dmg boost
So I'm just gonna keep using normal matches
? @drifting quest
Do you have p5 wulf
is there a google doc to input gears
nope
if so may i have a copy to it?
you arent proccing hot work enough
Bleh
at p5 or at low invesment you just run ult gain
at high investment you can run something like bonekrusha
i c, but what about the akekuri part? why did u say i should probably run that, ur not sure of it or smth?
Anybody know how much worse Frontiers armour (strength, intelligence, ultimate dmg %) is than Tide Surge which is reccomended for Laev/Surtr?
Just run this on ake
whats that site?
I prefer ult dmg as a stat than charge efficiency but it swaps her main stats out
Why the fuck we even considering either for surtr

Two strongest stats
i just cba to check the int difference
btw how can i run this sim?
more intellect = better any time for akekuri, no?
yes
alr, thanks
Say it's flex piece next time ๐ฟ
Anyway you need tide
No ult charge bricks your rotation
Iโve never heard it called that

Except for in all the sites
Off piece
im gna crash out why did they remove failed artifices giving you back wuling money
2 weeks and still not done w surtr. omg
๐
getting money checked hard. give me more outposts. i need to colonize your country fangyi
26% ult damage > 12% charge for sure, but was wondering if anybody knew how the stats made it less worth. Same with the ult charge of Redeemer Seal as flex and fire armour instead 

p4 surtr fixes this btw ๐
(jk it just opens up even better ult rots)
Okay Iโll get it then

Time to start pulling
hire me hg
So I guess I should be able to do the off build if I get p4? Would be Less gutting to to the ult charge
Iโm at p3 rn I have 20 pulls left

has anyone done the calcs for crit vs heat dmg for laevatain (wulf akekuri ardelia) team?
no i was joking LOL
i have yet to test
maybe when i max artifice my first set of surtr gear i can tell you
which at this rate will be in a month ๐
So about the surtr lynx vs tide fall. The advantage being faster ult rotation is completely useless if I have pot 5, or am I missing something?
Find someone high enough to understand energy gen and we can find out
Ult cost is 300, p4 is - 15% aka 45. So at p4 you need 255
2 eskills gives you 277
I JUST spent my pulls for it wow
And now you tell me
Sorry but i just realized that i can just get Valiant by doing 3 more multis in Lav sig banner
I already selected thermal cutter, is it worth it? Since im already Lav sig having deep into the arsenal banner anyway
This is all YOUR fault
and LIfeng's stuck with 4-5* option without Valiant
hire me hg.
Bruh ain't no way
wait how do guarantees work past 2 copies? is it just guaranteed every 240 pull or smth?
since youโve pulled more than 2

did you just win your 50/50s then
oh congrats then
I assume it resets
have fun with p4 laevatain LOL
Back to 65-120
4 is not a bad number
Jhin would appreciate it
might as well p5
Yes you get one token every 240 pulls
does that 240 reset every time you get a copy?
No
but it starts when you get your first copy?
Also that token is not a guaranteed pull
Think of it as getting it in your mail
It's extra
makes sense
Yes I think so, don't remember tbh
dude deep dive marble is a nightmare
eskills = enhanced skills? If you used lynx gloves Iโm guessing ?
do characters gain energy from any sources besides the ones listed directly on their own skills?
Main attribute +20% worth over 13% ult charge and gutting some of your armour stats?
Is that the question
If I understand d
Ult charge isn't a factor if you're p4
Cause the breakpoint is 2 eskills regardless of if you have charge or not?
It's heat damage from heat set armor vs int + strength on tide fall armor
If you go tidefall you miss out on 20% heat damage for matching stats
And a useless 3rd line on p4
And you skew more towards skill damage due to 2nd pyrometer
man we just see heat set and throw it as optimal everywhere ๐ญ I want to see crit set#s with respect to it
If you go lynx you get slightly lower stats but you get 20% more heat dmg
Idk if thereโs enough crit available for consistent dps yet
You still have 255 ultimate cost on Laevatain, P4 helps but it isn't a game changer. Just makes things a bit more comfy.
I think heat damage is bloated tho
Yeah but you have so many sources
quite a bit
Already
Itโs like a 8% increase
Which is what you mean by bloated Iโm guessing
the more you get of the same type of damage buff the more diluted each buff becomes
Ok but the extra ult gain does nothing, since the advantage was "you need one less eskill"
Yeah I understand, thatโs why I said so many sources so itโs a small increase
Yes that's what I meant
mines 30.3% jumping to 35.3 with the set for pure crit multiplier on ALL attacks instead of combustion nukes
Also the post that bloated this argument up was based on the dmg from ult E 3rd hit
Which is skewed in favor of tide armor
tho it might also be better bc i get the ult multiplier from p5
Yeah thatโs teeny numbers LMAO
compared to games based on crit LOL
Especially at p3 itโs *1.5 or so? Feels like taking away 40% skill damage gotta hurt a lot
I mean 1 less E skill can save you upto 10-15 seconds, more testing really needs to be done I feel. I'm pretty sure the quickest & most effective way to battery Laevatain hasn't even been figured out yet.

anyone have the link to a gear input doc?
Ok, at p0. But I'm asking for p5, because p4 gives you 15% reduced ult cost
crit consistent dmg buffs I'm thinking should out weigh the burst dmg of hot works but I need calculations done to prove it
You only need 2 Eskills at p4 regardless of set
Could go naked
You still get ult
Iโm a bit confused on her skill multipliers
Batk seq 1&2 during ultimate
Is under her skill
Does that refer to her skill being 2 instances of damage?
And then the additional atk is the combustion + heat dmg from consuming melting flame stacks?
there's a unique skill during ult
that has new multipliers
You can ping me btw 
nwnw
I have no idea, the more I look at description the less sense it makes
Yes
Her p3 buffs combustion damage and duration
Which are at the top and only modified in practice (unless itโs bugged)
But it doesnโt say which multiplier IS the combustion
combustion is a reaction its damage isnt tied to a laevatein multiplier
it's a separate thing
laev pot just gives an extra multiplier to it
to answer the obvious question no i dont know the calc
stuff with arts intensity yada yada
Why do I see crit discussions 
Yeah Iโm not smart enough to figure out what the optimal is for p4 or otherwise
hoyopilled
or wuwa
Hoyo addict presence
Yea
Defo hoyo they had an Acheron pfp
Its just normal formula x reaction numbers x arts intensity%
Guys 35% Crit IS optimal dmg if you just crit every time
Fuck you discord
simpler than expected
Me when phys is an arts reaction
Endfield industries is blackrock
Literal mine and exploit black rocks that may or may not be harmful to workers
The industrialist propaganda from a Chinese company is peak
I would not be surprised if blackrock owns a shell company that funded this thing in the first place
The rabbit hole
If a gigabrain with some cool tism flavor shows up with damage calcs for p4 surtr ping me please
mmmmm yummy tism
Nou
any1 know best artificing for Laevatain?
do we have any numbers on how much is the dmg taken% value of breach per stack?
save the mats till umbral monument
focus on essences
oh, so its not 1 stat per gear, everything can be maxed :O?
Umbral what
what is best in slot gear for laevatein is highly contested right now
what is umbral monument?
endgame mode
Lynx
๐ฃ๏ธ
closest equiv to spiral abyss
oh
its not even that aoe
If under p4 then tide armor. If p4 or higher idfk, toss a coin
from what we saw
Full ult charge build
๐ฃ๏ธ
there's the redeemer seal build too
3 hot work tide vs 3 hot work lynx vs redeemer seal is contested
surely
seal build doesn't work until max artifice tho no? 





