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vast iron
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its not worth the headache

valid gazelle
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This if you dont want the hassle

brittle sedge
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bottle it, use later

green sleet
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If its on its own forge, itll give about 3ppm h.xira

brittle sedge
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do a burst of hxira when its full

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i have ~40k bottled now

cobalt dagger
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screw it

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im going back to that

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AIC cant hurt me if its spinning

valid gazelle
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welp.. the problem is the backlooping into SIRcon

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hope that helps

cobalt dagger
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oh it did

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thx everyone btw!

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might not look like it but the help was more than useful

valid gazelle
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poor Qyurii...

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tried so hard to get the backloop to work..

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just one problem solved to make a new one

vital narwhal
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I wasn't there for it, but I imagine it was cinema

valid gazelle
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it was pain

vast iron
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(hell)

vast iron
valid gazelle
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does it...

vast iron
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.ptsd

uncut briar
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when is the next patch? before i delete factory and rebuild

brittle sedge
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june 5

cobalt dagger
uncut briar
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around 2 weeks, ohnyo

vast iron
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valley 4 liquid expansion soon

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wink

uncut briar
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no way, v4 will NEVER have liquid

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😭

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just the idea alone will break so many things

cobalt dagger
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liquid orignium

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oh hell nah pls no

craggy oyster
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cancer mist

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cant wait lol

uncut briar
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also, they still havent do anything about v4 manual transfer to wuling method

vast iron
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yum

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wait thats just uranium water

cobalt dagger
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willing to bet uranium water is healthier than originium in any form

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"""healthier"""

vast iron
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if you had uranium microplastics in your blood youd be dead too

uncut briar
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i just log in and saw this abomination, wtf endfield

uncut briar
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the graph just dont make sense

wispy grove
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Ran out of energy reserves

brittle sedge
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only thing i can think of is incorrect pwm usage

uncut briar
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NOOOO, 100% no

scenic mesa
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Under supply of water ?

cedar bolt
brittle sedge
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for whatever reason powerran out, fe and cu still running because of water rig

uncut briar
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yeah it seems like a short power out but it somehow automatically back up

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i dont pwm

valid gazelle
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wat

daring rapids
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not producing enough battery?

uncut briar
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im making 15/m sc tho, with 5 deficit DOP but i have more than enough reserve

valid gazelle
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same

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15 SCW

uncut briar
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yeah 15/m xircon is easier to manage , defo

brittle sedge
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my 80k stock and 12/m should keep me enough until 1.3

valid gazelle
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not to mention im on pwm..

static isle
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so I know how to do converger prio but what about splitter prio?

brittle sedge
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its a bit (lot) tricky

cedar bolt
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Can make battery wuling in valley (transfer xircon) Perlithonk

brittle sedge
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anything that doesnt involve liquid

craggy oyster
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im blaming tang tang on this

valid gazelle
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.elasticpeak

uncut briar
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do you guys even consider low high peak?

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i always select highest % drop every time

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without even knowing low high

brittle sedge
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% is not everything

valid gazelle
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no but today.. my % are all -20%

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so im taking the higher peak

cedar bolt
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Im holder elastic, give me low price PerliWheeze

brittle sedge
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buy whatever is around or lower than 1000

valid gazelle
brittle sedge
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by this time i have remembered all good's peak price

valid gazelle
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18 usage over yield..

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that's gonna be a problem

muted tartan
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for dense originum powder whats the setup?

brittle sedge
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2 lines ori powder 1 line sandleaf powder

muted tartan
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1 leaf and 2 powder production enough?

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orite

uncut briar
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yes

static isle
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just reworked my entire main

uncut briar
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covid aic?

solid quiver
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henta aic

uncut briar
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ah right

static isle
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I do everything here but xira and heto

daring rapids
brittle sedge
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hent aic

valid gazelle
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hent aic

static isle
uncut briar
valid gazelle
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sry my space bar didnt work

native thistle
uncut briar
valid gazelle
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pardon my 2 yo keyboard

cedar bolt
valid gazelle
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no ~

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im pure

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it was an honest accident

daring rapids
valid gazelle
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pure enough to keep your factory running then

muted tartan
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how much is valley 4 originum production per min?

cyan gorge
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I'm listening to an ASMR haircut video and how come I stay awake even more??? It's supposed to be relaxing

valid gazelle
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560 max

brittle sedge
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560

cyan gorge
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and how come the sound of the shreding machine make me feel asleep lol

muted tartan
valid gazelle
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go find it

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oy

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vn aic channel is ded

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@daring rapids go revive it

static isle
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wait
we all vn here?

daring rapids
static isle
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🇻🇳 ?

valid gazelle
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🇻🇳

brittle sedge
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lol

static isle
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đậu

valid gazelle
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this is what i meant

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even when we have a vn channel

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the vn are still hanging out in globul

brittle sedge
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we have taken over

daring rapids
valid gazelle
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do you think.. that we.. are the minority here

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when you alone is eternally online

static isle
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xdd

valid gazelle
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but i didnt know minako is vn

craggy oyster
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another one

static isle
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I assume none of us play the game in vnmese as well

craggy oyster
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damn

daring rapids
valid gazelle
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should we..

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tell minako about the dog food incident

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@daring rapids

daring rapids
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"stop eating dog food u guys!"

valid gazelle
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this is all Chinop's fault

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no srsly tho... that channel is so ded

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i guess the best thing about global channel.. is that you always have someone to talk to

daring rapids
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Timezone be like

valid gazelle
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hell naw... i saw some messages at 5pm (that's me)

brittle sedge
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for some reason i feel more comfortable reading en than vn PerliWheeze

valid gazelle
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thena few moew at 8pm (that's also me)

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and the channel is silent since

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wait

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Hx2 is VN ?

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wat

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damn

brittle sedge
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you only realized now PerliStareYou

valid gazelle
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well duh

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what do you think

daring rapids
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I thought you were Filipino

brittle sedge
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what makes you think that PerliWheeze

valid gazelle
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honestly i couldnt tell because Hx2 doesnt talk much in a way i can tell he has.. any special trait

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laying low 10/10

daring rapids
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He's been whitewashedPerliFumo

valid gazelle
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nah

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only 🫵 you are

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where are your farms at

brittle sedge
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to be honest i havent spoken any vn for a while lol

valid gazelle
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oh god..

daring rapids
valid gazelle
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our ancestors do be cursing us

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land without rice

solid quiver
daring rapids
valid gazelle
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at least Vic isnt

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phew -

solid quiver
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hanta sounds different

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henta sounds right to the pronunciation

solid quiver
valid gazelle
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you arent a visual novel

solid quiver
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why would I want to be seabling

valid gazelle
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but still.. this is getting dangerously low

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idt i can maintain 15scw for long

solid quiver
valid gazelle
solid quiver
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spare the joke

valid gazelle
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and i dont remember putting 2 control ports down in V4...

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which.. kinda locked the ferrium dust....

solid quiver
valid gazelle
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wel.. i did try to manual transfer

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only to see that there was only 200 ferrium dust left..

brittle sedge
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do 13.5/m swc and ferrium transfer, you can have leftover for bottles

valid gazelle
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i can cut the heto down by half..

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i should have enough ferrium to transfer by the morning

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less sewage created = less ferrium used for SIrcon

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the difference is there...

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just 1 extra line of sewage can change that much..

vital narwhal
pine sail
valid gazelle
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welp time to sleep... i'll cyall tmr

cursive oasis
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Holy shit, I did it. I dragged it from the Test Site. PerliDerp

vital narwhal
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gn caki

static isle
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someone remind me clogging doesn't affect passthru right

vital narwhal
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Iirc the crucible has to actually be producing to passthru

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but that might be wrong

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I haven't tested myself

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I think liquid passthrough doesn't need it at least

craggy oyster
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now that u add more on it

vital narwhal
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yea it's mega scuff

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but I think it work

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managed to work in the 50 power save on yazhen soln

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all of this started with me trying to figure out which side to place my conduit manifolds

craggy oyster
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wait so u not use all of the cup?

vital narwhal
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cuprium not going to heto goes to yazhen syringe A

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not built yet

craggy oyster
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it's only there for sewage?

vital narwhal
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I unload elsewhere

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well actually maybe could work in the production there top left

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hmm

craggy oyster
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im thinking if can squeeze in syringe in there

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i thought u gonna smash it into it too since u ask about yazhen solution

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but ye it seem like no space left

vital narwhal
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yea I was thinking doing it in fluid tank area, but maybe could directly do it top left off of those cup refine

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save some depot loader

dreamy jungle
vital narwhal
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ty fruit

craggy oyster
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i think add more height. so everything can be more organized

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unless u wanna make it as compact as u can

vital narwhal
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I'd rather it be compact for fun

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but only to a certain extent

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not going for as compact as possible, whatever that looks like

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also trying to minimize pipe count to a reasonable extent

cyan gorge
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high tech ❌
hide tech ✅

craggy oyster
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wait, isnt that 4 extend making xircon already make the purr on top of it full?

static isle
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the entire sewage-dependent unit

jolly shore
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Still making progress, but it has slowed considerably

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one might say I've hit a "bottleneck"

craggy oyster
jolly shore
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by my math, I'll finish heavy xiranite in 2 weeks and hetonite sometime later

vital narwhal
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top eff puriunit is taking inert from left side single eff reactor and the one next to it up top

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bottom left puriunit is the one taking the four expandeds in the center bottom

craggy oyster
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hmm. i mean one of the purr on heto site only work at 25%,
and the extra xircon pur also only work at low % too. with some pipe voodoo and pipe control port u can smash it tgt

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but i dont know enough pipe tech to do that

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and u can put purr outside of the base right? or is that also one of your condition

vital narwhal
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since I'm not doing true AIO, I'm just keeping inside base so it's blueprintable

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and yea it's true that both those puriunits have low utilization

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I didn't think of combining them together tbh

craggy oyster
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yeah cuz tottally diff use

vital narwhal
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I wonder if it'll actually regulate itself properly

craggy oyster
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noo

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u cantt

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wait it purr

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u defi can

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u alreayd know the output for sure, so each out put u can just split to 2 and give pipe control pot to direct it where u want

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the problem is input

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need each type at a time

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need some sort of timed input

vital narwhal
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yea I don't really know how to achieve that

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this rework is probably a little too involved

craggy oyster
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that would need huge rebuild , true

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but it would be a fun challenge

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imma do it this weekend

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already have an idea on how the input might be

vital narwhal
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I might consider it if I learn how to do timed inputs

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but not before

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so I'll wait on your version

craggy oyster
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we can use a tank as a sorter

south ferry
vital narwhal
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watch something on the side while doing it

empty sun
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Is our originium ore yield at 560/min? It is not divisible by 30. Are they trying to dive us insane!

vital narwhal
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yes v4 max originium is 560/m

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you can use the last 20 by belting it out, splitting into three, and take one of those splits back into depot

craggy oyster
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u just need a 2/3 spliter for it. not that big.
if u in V4 u will soon realized all resouces gonna be useless since u dont really need to buy anything anymore
if u in wuling, it's a mid patch so, it wont stay for long

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i would do the S belt for it lol

jolly shore
craggy oyster
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nah

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very tidious for me

jolly shore
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1750 at a time is about 46 transfers

keen river
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and one transfer takes like 5 seconds

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bonus point if you have phone that can run endfield

jolly shore
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it is tedious but not overly so

craggy oyster
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when u need to do it like 100 times perday it would get kinda bored

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my trick is to tranfer smt to wuling and take smt to wuling back to V4

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so it less button , but still, it kinda bore

keen river
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i usually transfer stuff while in toilet or late night in bed

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but you dont even need to transfer too much stuff before hitting diminishing returns

south ferry
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Just let it run and switch the item

craggy oyster
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My ore constantly run out so items jump every sec

keen river
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that sounds like something that might be against ToS

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yeah

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that is an annoyance for sure

craggy oyster
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also i dont wanna risk using auto clicking

south ferry
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Thought of had been doing it for like a month or so

craggy oyster
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it depend on the dev ngl

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some might consider it is some might dont

indigo oak
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do conduits disconnect again if i put them apart more than 200

craggy oyster
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Not if one of them in the base

indigo oak
craggy oyster
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kinda a trick, might get patch later

south ferry
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But i am not technically cheating

magic geyser
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Wait...does that mean you just first connect two conduits in the base, then just "move" or "hold" the ghost form and walk all the way to the purification node?

craggy oyster
solid quiver
craggy oyster
magic geyser
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ah

craggy oyster
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it only work for the one inside the base

cedar bolt
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Just play save PerliSmile

craggy oyster
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ngl a lot of think in this game can be automated ussing auto clicking

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so it reasonable for dev to just ban it

mint prairie
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can someone help me out? I am trying to get a functional and compact Hetonite component setup but am failing miserably to make it myself. I tried looking up some blueprints but they are all extremely insane and dont just give the components

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I am US BTW if anyone has a simple and compact blueprint i can copy

craggy oyster
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i made a simple easy to copy one.im on asia so no code.

mint prairie
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thanks i should be able to copy it

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do you know the area?

craggy oyster
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ideally is markerstone CRS, cuz u dont need to pipe axid to

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but u could place anywhere u want

mint prairie
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i should be able to fit it in the bottom half of Jingyu Vally right?

craggy oyster
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as long as u have 6 axit there

jovial breach
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💀 acid in jingyu

craggy oyster
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ogh u mean the size

craggy oyster
jovial breach
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Oh

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You can put that outside

mint prairie
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also may i ask why your bottling the waste?

craggy oyster
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to unbottle it in main base and run it to the test area for extra eff

cedar bolt
jovial breach
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Sewage has value you know

craggy oyster
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u can just replace it with treatment unit if u dont care about it

mint prairie
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most people i see just use treatment

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i didnt thing it was worth it to bottle it

craggy oyster
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well yeah that personal choice

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it's only 0.2/min eff

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not much

keen river
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if you setup the test area infrastructure, it gives you some effluent

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not a lot but still something

jovial breach
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Oh right today is nasti banner

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Time to log in ak

solid quiver
craggy oyster
mint prairie
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i think i copied it right......

green sleet
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I havent set up the fluids yet, but im pretty sure itll work? My need to keep builds looking symmetrical without using bridges is a problem.

craggy oyster
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why not 4 cru tho, less conduit

white dune
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legit in awe of the beauty of it lowk

keen river
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about 16 hours till version previe live, wonder how it will go

mint prairie
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after adjusting some stuf so the acid can get in it seems to work perfectly

craggy oyster
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niceeee

white dune
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@craggy oyster did u make it?

keen river
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i would probably prefill the leftmost furnaces with like 5 acid each

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but this design looks pretty good

craggy oyster
white dune
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:D

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the only thing i dont understand is how all the fluid can go into one pig pipe at the end that loops around

keen river
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it shouldnt be necessary but you never know how the pipes etc delay

white dune
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wouldnt that be like 4 units/sec which is more than the pipe can handle?

keen river
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no, each crucible only outputs 0.5

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you could chain 8

craggy oyster
white dune
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oh wait i mistook it

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i mistakenly took it for the regular red liquid

keen river
white dune
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yeyeye

keen river
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so it will run on its own and never exhaust it

mint prairie
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@craggy oystercheck your dms

white dune
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where did u premake the copium cubes

keen river
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the only possible problem i could see is that if there is only 1 acid "item" in that loop, i'm not quite sure if it wont cause the crucible to lag a bit (due to stuff like loading/unloading delay on pipe)

white dune
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did mine like this initially and it feels bulky

keen river
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it should eventually even out but it might take a while

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so pre-filling it with some acid might work

white dune
keen river
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yeah it will

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but question is how long it will take

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like first cycle will take (1 + 1/3) * 2 seconds before purification unit can run

white dune
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id think at most a day

keen river
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yeah

white dune
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devs prob thought of it and simplified it

keen river
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i think it should eventually be fine

white dune
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yeye

uneven aspen
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so acid should be fine

white dune
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@craggy oyster whered you make the initial stuff for the copium ore refine thing

craggy oyster
keen river
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finally someone auto shared me a zipline on that hill

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although the view is bad

white dune
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huh where hill

keen river
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its the one right above the copium nodes

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i kinda wish for the zipline on the building on the right hill

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but never seen it

white dune
mint prairie
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for the NA side if you wanna use the code

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I didnt do the bottle part though

craggy oyster
white dune
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i dont rlly hang out in this channel much its just p cool to me

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just kudos :D

craggy oyster
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ic

white dune
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ive only used it to help make heavy

mint prairie
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@craggy oyster i posted it in blueprints and tagged you for the credit

craggy oyster
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alright haha

uneven aspen
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is it normal for the 10 minute ,30 minute, and 2 hour aic to be unreliable?

Or does that mean I have some belt priority issue?

keen river
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there is usually a glitch in those stats when you log-in

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might be the reason

uneven aspen
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i havent changed my factory in 2 days, just find it strange the 2 hour one is not even accurate

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those it's only the dense ori powder

cedar bolt
keen river
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no idea

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ye

keen river
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and you are underfeeding the sewage from it somehwere?

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or maybe not enough water and it sometimes stops for a second?

uneven aspen
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hmmm maybe

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i did accidentally break the base for like 12 hours

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that made everything capped out

keen river
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but the gap in the 2h in hetonice

uneven aspen
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will check after dailies

keen river
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im like 99% sure its due to login accounting issue

cedar bolt
keen river
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when you log-in it sometimes miscounts the time

gray oar
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i gotta make a power line to test area all the way from wul city?

keen river
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yes

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you should already have the powerline to originum field next to test area

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so its not even that far

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like 3 pylons

uneven aspen
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just worried because my xiranite was at 81k too but now its 79k but i may have accidentalyl used it in a depot delivery idk my memory too bad to remember

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xiranite and dense ori seems to be the most inconsistent

keen river
craggy oyster
uneven aspen
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nah 3.55 xiranite gear component

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and 1.3 lcw

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it's a bit wacky

cedar bolt
uneven aspen
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what to do with 42 extra xiranite yield and 60 originium(+50 dense ori meta)

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3.55 and 1.3

craggy oyster
# uneven aspen what to do with 42 extra xiranite yield and 60 originium(+50 dense ori meta)

that might be because the oridense rate not match with the other material in line so at this time the gear eat more and the other time the bat eat more. so it abit unstable like that. also imguessing that if u use meta storage oridense, it will be like that too, since it's 25/min but technically it's 30/min for 50mins and 0/min for 10 min unless u have limiter for it

uneven aspen
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using 25/min rate limiter

craggy oyster
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yeah then it's the 1st reason i think

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anyway, i wouldnt care much about material rate. if the end product rate are as intended, it's good lol

uneven aspen
uneven aspen
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and they either round up or down in reports

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so i can't rely on production rate of everythign at the end

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need to look at the inputs and see if it's 100% being used RossiCopium

craggy oyster
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ahhh icic

tame sedge
uneven aspen
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yeah i might swap away later

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for now idm lcw bat production because if we get 3rd outpost

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can probably use it there to help level it up

tame sedge
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Lcw is ez straightforward solution. Cant go wrong

uneven aspen
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decided to add a stash splitter maybe it will make the rates a tiny bit more consistent

tame sedge
uneven aspen
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what these 2 unused conduits for?

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crucible maintenance? for easy pipe?

tame sedge
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Those are where they are placed in game. For sim i hardwired some conduit connections so you can see were they would go in game

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The sim looks like it pools all inlets together, so for the sake of clarity, i dragged the pipes

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For example, this pipe is intended to be conduit

uneven aspen
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ah i see

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that's a good workaround

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i kinda just left my aic in enka dead because of those

deft herald
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Some1 have citrome A bleuprint pls (eu)

tame sedge
keen river
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its bit hard because valley 4 is usually space restricted so not a lot blueprints filt

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just use this

uneven aspen
indigo obsidian
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idk why ppl aren't impressed

surreal lantern
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why should thinkingsns

indigo obsidian
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30 batteries 18 heavy xira and 12 Heto part

surreal lantern
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so?

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it's not even stable in the long run

indigo obsidian
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isk i haven't seen anyone w better stats

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it's actually very stable

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y are u saying it's not

surreal lantern
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good for you then

uneven aspen
indigo obsidian
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can i show u my storage? yesterday i sold everything in aic for credits

surreal lantern
uneven aspen
indigo obsidian
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it's just the ferrium zombie we do have everything else

mint prairie
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i ended up making this and connecting it to the other Hetonite i made earlier

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any way to make it more compact

uneven aspen
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540 originium, 240 cuprium, 90 ferrium is the yields rn

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360 xiranite

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less for more forges used

indigo obsidian
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i autocraft battery in the valley moving 3 mins a day some xiricon

uneven aspen
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18 hxira is 3 forges used so 270 max

surreal lantern
uneven aspen
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instead of being imrpessed

surreal lantern
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i forgot 2 outlet somwhere in the map..

uneven aspen
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manually transfer depot daily PerliCopium

indigo obsidian
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people farm the map for credits for way more time

late shale
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I suck with pipes what do I put here

uneven aspen
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takes like 1:30 min at most plus whatever 2-3 loading screens

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depot transfer there's a pause between swapping depots

undone current
#

converger?

indigo obsidian
#

no i mean enemy killing routes lol but whatever

surreal lantern
late shale
undone current
#

which direction on right pipe

#

splitter

uneven aspen
undone current
#

w8

uneven aspen
undone current
#

why sewage icon on water input

indigo obsidian
#

this is from yesterday

slow canyon
late shale
#

thats what that is?

viscid zodiac
#

How do i make as many stock bills as i can from wuling?

uneven aspen
indigo obsidian
#

i0m restocking ferrium rn yesterday i moved 30k so today's profit is going to be way more

slow canyon
uneven aspen
#

its still better to farm that at the essence just farm it withotu spending sanity

surreal lantern
#

@uneven aspen he just want manual labour, we have different purpose.

uneven aspen
#

time-wise

#

you can do infinite attempts of essence farm just deny the rewards to reset it

#

no reason to go kill around in the maps

indigo obsidian
#

i don't do that...i'm telling u what i have seen people doing lol

late shale
#

im trying to make Cuprium Parts

uneven aspen
#

and im still dont get how that's related to "impressive"

indigo obsidian
#

well check blueprint section of the forum...no-one has this output lol

uneven aspen
#

because your output is not sustainable

#

and no benefit for the manual labour

#

when you can still buyout the outposts without doing that

mint prairie
#

EFO01893i7U9aA1AAUI73 well... i made this with some help... is there any way to make it more compact....

indigo obsidian
#

show me all ur outposts empty

tall tangle
indigo obsidian
#

actually not at all

#

cos' u can enhance t3 comp w t2 and t1 comp

#

so u don't need that many ever

uneven aspen
#

im not saying you shouldnt do what you want for fun

indigo obsidian
#

it looks like a total waste

uneven aspen
#

im just saying the reason why people don't find it impressive

#

because you're using more than what we can sustain

indigo obsidian
#

understandable

#

the ferrium on the map in wuling is still in reduced output from mining node due to node development level not being out due to the update..you can tell me it uses more than what u have but not that is not designed w the future in mind tho

surreal lantern
#

@uneven aspen
you can't tell other who loves manual to not manual

#

what so hard about outpost being emptied anyway

static isle
#

yall think this is the best I can do for a xira gear unit
in terms of space

indigo obsidian
#

that's impressive btw 😉

surreal lantern
static isle
mint prairie
#

is 210 xiranite/m only using 6 forges good?

surreal lantern
#

if you are lacking ores but need to build base, you can build parts from valley and manually transfer at first, until you feel like wuling aic is stable

surreal lantern
#

where is the extra 30 from..

late shale
#

K looked up blueprintand just slapped it down

#

plant farm was one I modified

mint prairie
surreal lantern
#

6 x 30 = 180..

mint prairie
#

im making 34 not 30....

#

atleast thats what my AIC says

static isle
#

max xira output is 30 per forge

surreal lantern
#

xeranite production time is 2s..

#

1 min is 60s

undone current
#

u only need 3 there

surreal lantern
mint prairie
#

where is it saying im getting the extra 4 then????

#

im confused

indigo obsidian
#

aedra u connected the sewage from test area aswell?

mint prairie
#

i must have a 7th thats broken or something

static isle
#

someone remind me what is the command for the elastic good guide again

surreal lantern
#

yeah that's what i suspect

mint prairie
#

my belts are constatly stocked up though....

uneven aspen
#

.elasticpeak

mint prairie
surreal lantern
mint prairie
#

all 6 belts look like that constantly

#

i was using a smaller one that made them at like 1/3rd the speed... but i didnt like it so i made my own lol

solid quiver
#

19 hour until live stream

#

10 hours should be covered by sleeping

mint prairie
#

all though i have no use for the 4 new forges so i may revert a few back to the smaller ones

surreal lantern
#

i'm not in EU

uneven aspen
#

is that 19 hour for the chinese stream?

surreal lantern
#

i still wish i could fix this to make it more compact without using extra protocol

mint prairie
#

LMFAO i turned 2 of my xiranite creations into 4 smaller ones that someone else made me and i lost 60/m

#

correction 6

#

my 2 forges are more effecient then 6 of the smaller ones that my friend made LMFAO

sick basin
mint prairie
late shale
#

I have Cuprium parts and components automated along with Wuling battery and stuff for that

undone current
#

no sc battery?

late shale
#

I have LC wuling battery going

undone current
#

go sc battery instead

#

can utilize ur sewage

late shale
#

spent awhile wiring up the stockade and looking up blueprints

#

will do more later

#

Ill throw a blueprint down

dreamy jungle
uneven aspen
#

What's the most compact sc wuling battery setup similar to this?

#

too many overall factories instead of invidual designs 😔

keen river
#

well

uneven aspen
#

anyways this is 24 height->23 height for me though idk about the extra belts bridges 🤮

keen river
#

one thing you can do is throw the sandleaf planters away

#

there isnt much advantage of having them integrated because all wuling recipes use weird amount of sandleaf

#

so i think its better to just have it somewhere else explicitly

uneven aspen
#

this way increases the width though

keen river
#

yeah

#

from my point of view thats fine because wuling has a lot of depo space

uneven aspen
keen river
#

dunno

#

generally speaking your layout looks super spagetthi and it seem it has way too many belts 🤔

uneven aspen
#

my current one uses 41 facility count

#

the new one at 23 height is at 43

#

kidna worth it maybe

ruby sorrel
#

you'd have depot space if you didn't block it with pumps

uneven aspen
#

but like i said im wondering if there's other designs

surreal lantern
#

i give up on compact battery

#

we have space, but not protocol

ruby sorrel
#

and you can squiggle the bus for more too

uneven aspen
#

i forgot i have an enkad tab for fixing the cuprium for this

#

wait nvm i remember now

#

the cuprium stuff is at 18 height so i have space for 2nd depot section

#

for my more messier production

undone current
#

protocol space PerliStareYou

ruby sorrel
#

that's way too many conduits

undone current
#

which one, water?

uneven aspen
keen river
#

both really

#

you need 1 crap conduit per 4 refineries

ruby sorrel
#

you could replace every other sewage conduit with water and it'd be the same thing

undone current
#

oh nvm, i don't see effluent conduit

keen river
#

well, two, one for input one for output

undone current
#

but yeah its way too much

keen river
#

so all of this could be handled by one double manifold with water -> one double manifold with sewage

#

instead of current 12 standard conduits

uneven aspen
#

yup

#

still working on it in enka with that in mind

undone current
#

its should be 2 conduit n 1 manifold

keen river
#

also you can do this

#

not quite sure if its more compact, but feels like it is

undone current
#

each conduit for each sc line

uneven aspen
#

except i counted 7 instead of 8

#

then stopped working on it

keen river
#

i have the refining split into two groups

#

one is in marker stone and one is in aic

#

so that sewage is readily available in both

ruby sorrel
#

hmm I just realised it'd probably be less troll if I alternated unloaders and loaders

#

but having a big mess was kinda the point

keen river
#

for sure 😅

#

or just proto stash

#

unless you subscribe to protostash less religion

ruby sorrel
#

I only use them if it's for depoting clogs cus belt prio is weird

undone current
keen river
#

this is my marker stone design

uneven aspen
undone current
dreamy jungle
uneven aspen
# dreamy jungle

I wish I could do these, but my hard rule is everything should be within the width setup by depot unloader and maybe conduit.

That said the way refiners are this is the best way to do it probably.

#

mainly because I wanna copy paste my blueprints without any conflicts via widths, it's all contained.

dreamy jungle
#

i just have this on the very side of the aic

keen river
#

i try to squish all builds so that there is a lot of space available, if feasible 😅

#

different philosophy i guess

vital narwhal
#

you can squish the left side down with converger, just like this to save a pipe logi with extra space

final sierra
keen river
#

historical reasons tbh

#

maybe i will change it with next rebuild

uneven aspen
#

same same, the way i did cuprium was before i started using enka

#

now with new things, i should update them

final sierra
# keen river historical reasons tbh

also is there any small sewage clogging in this refining unit in game?
cuz mathematically it's ok, but 3 converger in line possibly can cause it, like not full clogging but decresing production in refining unit from 100% to 97% for example 🤔

green sleet
#

I like the infinitely repeatable pattern for cupri. But im starting to see some appeal in how you did yours, @dreamy jungle
Do you run into space issues with processing further down the cupri line?

dreamy jungle
green sleet
green sleet
tame sedge
#

I notice similar issues and so I try to avoid chaining 4 for sewage output

keen river
#

although as far as i can tell, its not caused by the refineries themselves

#

but by the pipe system that takes care of sewage

green sleet
#

Yeah. I try n stick to singles or doubles, but so long as you stick to what i said, itll never back up or clog.
I got 6 cupris + heto waste all moving thru 1 conduit manifolds.

keen river
#

the merger/splitter combos often dont deliver the 2/s

#

basically

#

from what i can tell

#

if this system clogs

#

if you put a tank on the pipe

#

it will slowly fill

#

so its not being drained fast enough, possibly due to buggy behaviour of splitters etc

#

it happens super rarely tho

ruby sorrel
#

cycles clashing somewhere cus logistics are separate entities

#

idk why they didn't just make logistics slightly faster than belt/pipe

keen river
#

no clue

#

as far as i can tell

#

the setup like in that build

#

works good enough

#

it hadnt clogged since i built this

ruby sorrel
#

it's annoying that they work most of the time, but you get unlucky once and everything bricks

final sierra
valid gazelle
#

I have awakened

subtle finch
jolly shore
#

filling out my survey, added things like:

#

Increasing the item limit from 5000 to 20000
Allowing digit entry rather than a slider

tame sedge
#

Give me name tags for conduits

jolly shore
#

Think they would allow a flow reduction?

#

to like 1/3, 1/2, 2/3?

valid gazelle
#

Apart from water.. i dont think there's much use case for it

subtle finch
#

PerliWaaaaa 70 pulls

keen river
#

Although adding a throttle to item port could be nice too

vital narwhal
subtle finch
#

same PerliDerp

vital narwhal
#

if only game didn't make me go to 300 for pram alter

clear ridge
#

what is the water pumps to machines ratio? 1:2?

subtle finch
vital narwhal
silent violet
#

is it worth pulling nasti i dont even know what her kit is

subtle finch
#

she makes range tiles

vital narwhal
#

main gimmick is buildable high-ground tile

subtle finch
#

and super buffs that range tile

silent violet
#

is that even useful?

subtle finch
#

very

vital narwhal
#

it's super cool but more like in a have fun kind of way than insanely broken

#

even though it has strong synergies with certain ops

subtle finch
#

well, its subjective
but she's fun

undone current
#

mostly for helping niche op like ifrit

subtle finch
#

another roster to buff army

silent violet
#

i almost never use buffers lmao

#

maybe ill just get her anyway since it seems like a cool gimmick

subtle finch
#

you can place pram almost anywhere too

silent violet
#

ig itll be good for those cancer event maps with like no useful ranged tiles

undone current
#

w8, does test area boxes kinda rigged

valid gazelle
#

Wdym by that ?

hoary crag
#

.kino

ancient pier
#

.oroberyl

astral forge
#

shes 2010 nvidia

#

and we're about to hit the ai stock market

hoary crag
silent violet
#

she probably that type of op that you regret not pulling every time you come across a stage where she would cheese the stage

hoary crag
#

more or less so yeah

tough berry
#

oh btw is top 1 fav for ifrit fanatic

subtle finch
#

PerliFumo got the whole gang

scenic mesa
#

morning jumpscare PerliDerp

hoary crag
#

mf I got like

#

pot 7 ho'ol

#

and no mumu

#

not to mention I ended up sparking skalter instead since she's the more versatile op

subtle finch
hoary crag
subtle finch
#

no

#

30600870

valid gazelle
#

+1

mortal meteor
#

do y'all just connect underground pipes with this one? from the Main AIC to this water treatment sector?

valid gazelle
#

Yes

mortal meteor
#

bruh
that's a lot of useless work

#

it only treats the sewage water right?

valid gazelle
#

When it gives me half an scw line, im not really sure about "useless"

#

Ya

mortal meteor
#

what's the point of this thing?

valid gazelle
#

-300 power usage on water treatment

  • 7 SIRcon worth of effluent
mortal meteor
#

so I waste more power for something that I make a lot already?

tame sedge
#

-300
Waste power

vital narwhal
#

If anyone want add me, Aorta#0400

valid gazelle
#

I dont know how -300 power usage means waste more power but.. you always have a choice not to use it

shut hearth
#

Keyword is usage

marble yarrow
#

name checks out

mortal meteor
#

more like I waste 300 power to treat sewage water when we use all the time

valid gazelle
#

You dont use all 9 lines of sewage

shut hearth
valid gazelle
#

Haruna always has ricardo wdym 💀

shut hearth
#

I just noticed man

mortal meteor
#

there is 9 of these in the Area?

shut hearth
#

🥀

valid gazelle
marble yarrow
valid gazelle
shut hearth
valid gazelle
#

Mexico Filter

shut hearth
#

I hope people know im joking about all breaking bad scenes in mexico have a heavy yellow filter

valid gazelle
#

I know

#

Hollywood whenever a film is Mexico themed or wild west themed

#

Slap on that yellow filter

ruby sorrel
#

wow game gave me a zip in the eviction zone

undone current
shut hearth
valid gazelle
#

💀

undone current
#

nah, 3 stack cuprium comp

#

this too

halcyon slate
#

rubs xiranite shaped belly

hoary crag
cyan gorge
#

metastorage really help the spare 18 ferium powder, since you can send over 25/min (1500 ferium powder)

hoary crag
#

have they ever already fixed the EN log being 4 hours late?

meager stream
halcyon slate
#

no im currently coping with needing to deal with sewage

#

I didnt think it was so soon

subtle grove
#

beautiful

valid gazelle
#

Another pipe bender

hoary crag
#

ngl

#

I might just tune in to the JP version of the 1.3 log instead

#

rather than wait hours for EN

mighty yacht
#

do you guys think its possible to shrink this any further? its like 29x40 for a 90/min

undone current
hoary crag
dusty snow
#

Anyone know why one of my crucible for battery keeps clogging?

hoary crag
#

basically in tune to like

#

every other fucking language log

#

EN's the only one that's 4 hours late

ruby sorrel
#

EN at some ungodly hour, maybe the TL will actually be clear this time

shut hearth
#

Well i dont like idea of an en stream being at 3 am lmao

#

Tbats just a fuck u to the english community

ruby sorrel
#

it's all prerecorded anyways basically a vid upload

lofty lodge
hoary crag
#

tbh I feel like some creators will just stick to the good old ak cn stream formula

#

people just tune in to creators who actually know CN/JP and have them translate live

halcyon slate
#

keep me out the factory bro

#

osha gonna get my ass

small creek
#

At least no one else has to do it again ChenCry

#

Dumbas recursive effluent

ruby sorrel
#

wut but I always do that

shut hearth
dusty snow
valid gazelle
ruby sorrel
#

...is my setup a lie PerliWheeze

valid gazelle
small creek
valid gazelle
#

same

dusty snow
small creek
#

I will never believe anyone who says they successfully looped back the effluent into a full system

cyan gorge
dusty snow
valid gazelle
#

more effluent jammed into the middle of the production chain means both the purification and the sewage from the refinieries are fighting for priority

dusty snow
valid gazelle
#

either one fails or both fail

valid gazelle
#

that's backlooping

ruby sorrel
#

idk what problem this could possibly give you PerliWheeze

valid gazelle
#

OR you purify sewage with the purinode and that extra effluent can also break your system

lofty lodge
#

wish i can show how i set clog free setup, uninstall for a while due laptop storage is full. basically set 1 expandle cruicible to produce the light green fluid. then that fluid go into normal cucible mix with ferrium powder to make xircon. If clogged, can still function if battery in storage clear. Praylica

valid gazelle
#

is that... an overflow valve for sewage

#

where does it lead to

dusty snow
ruby sorrel
#

the magical land of purification

valid gazelle
#

omg..

valid gazelle
lofty lodge
valid gazelle
#

as least can I see your SIRcon setup ?

valid gazelle
small creek
ruby sorrel
#

yeah

#

until it caps and then it goes 0 PerliWheeze

small creek
#

well, idfk how but

#

congrats i guess

valid gazelle
#

he has 2 overflow valves... another one for sewage

small creek
#

I still dont believe it tho

valid gazelle
#

the thing is................... idk how that would fire back at my argument..

ruby sorrel
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

valid gazelle
#

idk the efficiency

ruby sorrel
valid gazelle
shut hearth
valid gazelle
#

OH I SEE IT

small creek
#

For the longest time ever yes

valid gazelle
#

your Sewage to Effluent ratio is lower

#

aayy my argument holds strong

small creek
#

Stronghold protocol?

ruby sorrel
#

it's just for looking nice, you can just merge sewage and do a 1/2 split into crucible instead of overflow valve

#

does the same thing really

valid gazelle
#

also.. does anyone have OGAK on the phone ? preferably android

ruby sorrel
#

it's actually safer

valid gazelle
#

i need to know its size

ruby sorrel
lofty lodge
jolly pivot
ruby sorrel
#

the thing with hxira is you have to put eff into it first before overflowing into xircon since it has no crucible for it

#

so it's entirely dependent on the refunds

#

otherwise you'd get sth like 10/min

#

well the way I have it set up

#

there's 1 standalone hxira and one that's attached to everything else

valid gazelle
# ruby sorrel wym

well the thing is that... i made this argument about why purinode is the last thing you should use your sewage on
my idea is that

  • Sewage to Effluent (with Xyranite) is a 1 to 1.25 ratio at the purification unit
  • While the Purinode makes it into a staggering 30 to 1 ratio which is significantly bad.
    So if you dont make effluent directly from sewage and xyranite, you are losing a large proportion of sewage value
    Again... i dont know the efficiency of overflowing sewage to purinode is so i couldnt really make an actual statement about it
#

Arguably... our sewage usage are the same, but my Effluent yield is higher than yours

ruby sorrel
#

cus I'm not mkaing 15SCW

valid gazelle
#

ya i know its just.. i want to make a point that the purinode is so bad, you shouldnt focus on it if you want max effluent output

#

other than that your build is quite solid ngl

halcyon slate
#

i was scared of sewage for nothing, the whole purification to batteries isnt needed

#

rn at least

valid gazelle
#

i didnt think of putting 2 overflow valves

halcyon slate
ruby sorrel
#

I mean we don't have the ability to put 3600/min sewage to get 120/min eff back anyways

#

or w/e random number you want

valid gazelle
#

its like our sewage recycling plant that rewards us for recycling

#

its not much.. but it is still something

ruby sorrel
#

idk how's your xiranite>eff ratio

valid gazelle
#

hmm ?

ruby sorrel
#

cus if you're not looping back aren't you using more xiranite

#

where's the eff going

valid gazelle
#

yep

valid gazelle
ruby sorrel
#

well you're running over sustainable anyways

meager stream
valid gazelle
#

my effluent output also relies on my hetonite

#

if i run max hetonite, my ferrium is gonna die

meager stream
#

import vale ~

valid gazelle
#

more hetonite = more sewage = more effluent = more ferrium used = rip

ruby sorrel
#

yeah I think I'm pushing 238/min sewage through manifold when hxira dies PerliWheeze

valid gazelle
lofty lodge
valid gazelle
#

but there is enough Effluent to go pass 15 SCW

#

but the orignium and the ferrium cant keep up

ruby sorrel
#

well you don't have enough of anything else

valid gazelle
valid gazelle
#

i hope they have something in store for us tonight

#

really need a new sub pac and MORE FACTORY

lofty lodge
valid gazelle
#

more orignium too

#

and...

meager stream
valid gazelle
#

4 MORE FOTS

#

im gonna jampack my entire 16 FOTS into my main pac and call it a day

undone current
halcyon slate
undone current
#

512/512 PerliWheeze

meager stream
#

huge maps but lack of mining spotsPerliWaaaaa