aic-factory

[robust grove]

Depends on what you're working on

[hoary crag]

brotha I just make your pc do this and that

not catch a 20 story tall rocket in mid-air

😭

[craggy oyster]

yeah, not every IT guy is an engineer, but there are defi engineer in IT field

[hoary crag]

fair ig

anyway we're going oot here

so, when are getting a new ferrium deposit?

[robust grove]

There's lots of fields in engineering, cuz you still have to write code so the machine talk to each other and the ship won't decide to become a submarine

Blessed machine and the motive force and all that.

[scenic mesa]

Is this what they called: imposter syndrome

🙏

[craggy oyster]

whenever they release HCW. my guess is next patch when they release 3rd outpost. That's base on V4 pattern btw

[pulsar willow]

HCW? High Capacity Wuling battery?

[craggy oyster]

HC wuling baterry

[robust grove]

High capacity wuling battery

[craggy oyster]

ye

[hoary crag]

when we only have standard batteries be like

[craggy oyster]

it not really standard tho

they just put random rank on it

[hoary crag]

I'd still consider them as low/standard/high capacity batteries in my headcanon

makes more sense that way

[robust grove]

It makes more sense that way cuz irl standards make it go whack

[solid quiver]

lc might be jus li ion bat

other idk

[winged oriole]

I wonder if we will have a new intermediate to compound even more originium into so we can stuff more than 50 into a battery

[solid quiver]

have trying to understand sense behind the acronyms

[robust grove]

LC is lithium manganese dioxide

[vital narwhal]

that sounds more like a next region thing, maybe even involving new machine

[craggy oyster]

i think it the brain triggering it after u guys see the rank of the battery

[winged oriole]

well just seems like it'd be kinda underwhelming if HC just uses 25 dense ori

[robust grove]

But imho, IEC> ANSI

[craggy oyster]

imagine if LC is the middle one, ppl would feeel it make no sense

shitty capacity low capacity and high capacity lol

[solid quiver]

I think they'd just cubes refine more and refine xircon too

[vital narwhal]

there's chance that the xircon analogue for hcw involves both heto and hxira

[robust grove]

My bet is that we'll be making 3 lines of HCW using hXi

Or new machine with liquid battery making

[craggy oyster]

oh god imagine we have to belt batery into a machine cuz it dont like the AIC core

[solid quiver]

I think heto is exclusive to meds like ori exclusive to bats

[craggy oyster]

well h.xir liquid is already there. probably new tier material that higher than xircon

the med one makeing no sense to me ngl

why it have more effect when put into diff bottle

[daring rapids]

yazhen S with hetonite bottle wen

[craggy oyster]

it still yazhen and jincao solution

[ruby sorrel]

put them in hxira bottles

[vital narwhal]

stronger effect from hetonite particles entering bloodstream

[daring rapids]

what about we bring that gourds back like that?

back to square one

[craggy oyster]

then just mix heto particle into the med. why bother make a whole new bottle

[vital narwhal]

bc then you can't eat the bottle separately after injecting

[robust grove]

Reject modernity, consume xiranite

[craggy oyster]

what if we make Fe solution instead

[robust grove]

I find it bs that you can't use hydro facility in v4

I want hydro mining

[craggy oyster]

cuz i feel like new ore is not gonna happen in wuling

[solid quiver]

Maybe new xircon is made made with xircon effluent+ xircon + liquid heavy xira?

[craggy oyster]

oh ye nvm, maybe heto is the thing for S tier heal

cuz in V4 it's Fe bottle and then Steel bottle

[solid quiver]

you can't even use water in v4

[calm goblet]

Is there a bug with Conduit Protocol Capacity Limits?

[craggy oyster]

bottle water and manual tranfer

and im sure there's some pool we can use in V4

[calm goblet]

Jingyu Valley says my Protocol Capacity is at 62/210.
I only count 16 Inlet or Outlet Conduits within the Jingyu Valley area.
It's telling me that I'm already at the 50/50 Protocol Capacity limit for Conduits in Jingyu Valley.

[daring rapids]

are u even allowed to place pumps in there?

[solid quiver]

no you literally can't get bowwa ow wota in valley

filling and pouring is only in wuling

[scenic mesa]

A bow ow wat

[craggy oyster]

yes

they even have same thing for water in here

they just ban water related facicity in V4

[solid quiver]

yeah then that means you are not allowed to place water facilities there

[daring rapids]

yeah that's actually the important part

no one give af about bottled water in v4

[craggy oyster]

i think u guys missed the point. The point is V4 can totally use water , they just ban it for no reason

[vital narwhal]

I believe the 50 cap refers to facility limit within the outpost area (not in the AIC area but also not the main map either, like where you put turrets for tower defense mode). Can remove some other facilities like turrets etc. to free up cap

[calm goblet]

Ah! Excellent! Thank you!

[daring rapids]

you could be argue it lore wise, endfield's policy is to not use any wuling-related facilities in other regions

endfield industry is a company after all

it might not have to do with actual technical limitations

[craggy oyster]

like V4 water is poisoned or smt?

[daring rapids]

ye

[craggy oyster]

from the game design perspective it make sense, but for common sense, there is no reason

cuz ppl still drink and be fine

also it's for machine

[ruby sorrel]

nah wasn't there a whole thing about not having enough purifiers for water

[solid quiver]

who knows if they get water from wuling

[daring rapids]

well, how about we put politics into place here?

[craggy oyster]

maybe u can limited healing liquid but for ore refiment it should be fine

[daring rapids]

[craggy oyster]

hmm

politic huh

such as?

[solid quiver]

wuling city vs qingbo

[craggy oyster]

damn 500unit/s pipe

[ruby sorrel]

it's a tunnel for the dogs actually

[daring rapids]

NDA

intellectual property

[craggy oyster]

does V4 appear in og arknight?

[daring rapids]

bruh

[robust grove]

Different planet lmao

[daring rapids]

og Arknights is in Terra

[craggy oyster]

idk much about AG lore lol

[daring rapids]

Endfield lore takes place after 200 years from og Arknights

you just need to know that

[craggy oyster]

that ik

so they tele everyone to Talos 1

and then shit happen and 10 year later we in talos 2

[daring rapids]

no talos I isn't a planet

it's just a gas giant

Talos II is its moon

[vital narwhal]

talos is the planet, talos 1 and talos 2 are moons

[daring rapids]

there are two moons???

[ruby sorrel]

there's probs a dozen mooons

[vital narwhal]

doesn't perlica have some voiceline about saying talos 2 is the 'second moon' of the gas giant talos?

[daring rapids]

yeah probably

but I forgot exactly what she said

[craggy oyster]

so they tele everyone to talos 2

there is no talos 1

[sick basin]

There is talos 1

Talos 2 is habbitable

[valid gazelle]

Talos is the gas giant. Talos 2 is one of the moons

I.. don't know about Talos 1

[sick basin]

Talos 1 is another moon, but not habbitable from what i rmb

[scenic mesa]

Aggeloi already existed before terra people come right

Im looking foward some plot twist that enfield actually is evil

[sick basin]

And they didnt "tp everyone"
They found a space gate, presumably similiar if not the same as there is in the Icefields of Sami and went thru, which then broke behind them

[scenic mesa]

[sick basin]

Smh

[daring rapids]

iirc it's the gate that connects Talos II and Terra

[sick basin]

#lore in my factory chat is crazy

[daring rapids]

and before Endfield we have Rhodes Island

[sick basin]

Well, obviously how else they'd get here
We just dont know what gate and where it was on Terra

[vital narwhal]

if they did (i'm unsure), they weren't a major issue at first. the history of talos 2 cutscene mentions 'the first aggeloi war saw the world spawn countless war machines', which implies they weren't there before (at least not at scale)

[sick basin]

It was literally stated that yes, aggeloi were already here when the first people came to talos 2

[craggy oyster]

yeah is that sound like tele? using the athergate?

[sick basin]

Wait why tf is this being discussed here

[valid gazelle]

When can Allindo crosses over.. 😭

[sick basin]

Losers
Go back to factory

[scenic mesa]

What if they are just talos natural defense mechanism to yeet peole away from the planet because human will cause pollution which lead to doom day

[daring rapids]

no aethergate is not tp

tp didn't really exist before current talos II

[solid quiver]

this looks like bullshi isn't it

[daring rapids]

no I want Priestess to come over Endfield

[vital narwhal]

at this point probably too early to speculate on anything specific. we know the predecessors came to talos 2 first before going to terra through the gates, so clearly they felt the need to leave, but this could also be attributable to terra's starpod (something like planet-wide camoflauge against cosmic threat, possibly artificial in nature)

[daring rapids]

it was something called "the observer" I believe

[vital narwhal]

it could also be they went to terra bc there were ferunmuts there, which would be conducive to development of countermeasures to observer threats

[daring rapids]

both Dokutar and Priestess were well-aware of its threat

so they got to cover their planets with smoke

[craggy oyster]

So terranian found a gate, go through it and move from a planet to another. Doesnt sound like tele at all

[mighty rapids]

is 440(540 theoric) the max wuling possible for originum ore?

[valid gazelle]

540 yes

440 means something is stopping you from getting 540

[daring rapids]

no I think they built it actually

[valid gazelle]

We're still on this topic ?

[daring rapids]

it's fun

[mighty rapids]

it's written as: "440/min actual" and "540/min theorically"
does that mean i still miss 100 possible?

[valid gazelle]

Go fix your farm

[daring rapids]

shut up my farm is perfect

[valid gazelle]

Like i said.. something is stopping you from getting 540

[scenic mesa]

What you guys expect, you guys just too good for enfield factory, you guys explored everything already

[valid gazelle]

Be it full depot, unpowered mining rigs

[scenic mesa]

[craggy oyster]

what else to talk about now

[daring rapids]

ye

[valid gazelle]

Damn..

[daring rapids]

factory has run dry

[valid gazelle]

This channel just turned into general

But we can post medias

[scenic mesa]

The factory must try not to dry i guess

[mighty rapids]

thanks, i thought the theoric metters was the thing to check to know how much u produce. so then something is preventing me to ressuply it. will check!

[daring rapids]

no I don't think general looks this peaceful

[craggy oyster]

im guessing u cappep ur ori and u only use 440, so the ori input can only be your ori output. the 100 get stuck in ur rig

[mighty rapids]

sadly no, im at 0 atm thats why im struggling haha

[valid gazelle]

Current data shows the actual yield and usage you have, and theocratical data shows what should be when everything is running

[craggy oyster]

the factory already grown to it full potential curently, we reaching lore now

[valid gazelle]

If you have 0 then you might want to check your mining sites

Cuz that yield number should be 540

[daring rapids]

let's talk about racism

[mighty rapids]

the only thing i changed was changing all electric mining to hydrolic one but it should mine the same

[daring rapids]

@craggy oyster wym no it is part of og lore too

[craggy oyster]

it's everywhere

doesnt mean we need to talka bout it lol

[ruby sorrel]

...I nuked my v4 stockpile cus I forgot to trade for a day

[valid gazelle]

hydro rigs behaves differently on different purities
mainly:
1 high purity vein requires double the amount of water of 1 low rarity vein so you get
1 pump = 3 high purity veins
or 2 highs 2 lows
or 1 highs 4 lows
or 6 lows

[craggy oyster]

does it actually have big impact on AK lore or smt

[daring rapids]

yes

[valid gazelle]

you might have been supplying insufficient water to certain rigs

[daring rapids]

racism in lore wise

[craggy oyster]

i dont buy it lol

[valid gazelle]

yes..

its not like actual racism

[craggy oyster]

oh that ik

[valid gazelle]

but the discrimination between an infected and non-infected is big

big enough to collapse a whole region..

[craggy oyster]

beast ppl fight with cancer beast ppl

one try to turn the other race into data

[mighty rapids]

thats good to know, i did for all 1 pump for 3 (any)

I found the problem; there was old originum mining with "portable rigs" and they dont transfert things to base. so it should be fine when i will replace it!

thanks for help

[daring rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpaH2eyaEvg

[valid gazelle]

aight that should be the cause then

[daring rapids]

fun title

[scenic mesa]

Ahh he made pretty good video

[valid gazelle]

you can always check on the map to see if your rigs are working normally

[mighty rapids]

I just removed thoses but pretty sure it was written as working... they were just capped at 50 but you have to manually take it cause portable rigs don't transfert it to base... it was a bit sneaky lol

[solid quiver]

I need explanation for racism against sarkazs

[daring rapids]

hey do u know that last rite is

[valid gazelle]

that's called envy

[craggy oyster]

is what

[daring rapids]

I heard that last rite is a carnivore

[solid quiver]

sarkaz are

[valid gazelle]

carnival

[solid quiver]

used to be

[craggy oyster]

what animal is last rite

shark?

[solid quiver]

sarkaz

kinda look like dragons

[valid gazelle]

Nachzehrer

[daring rapids]

afaik last rite still try to control her urge to devour

[valid gazelle]

iirc.. German folk-tales vampire

wait

is it german or russian..

[solid quiver]

they are trained to be hold their urges

[valid gazelle]

but she's a vampire

[solid quiver]

from the very young age

[scenic mesa]

Last rite is a cryo vampire? Damn sound hot

[craggy oyster]

where do we check character as in like database again

cuz i dont have last rite

[solid quiver]

still don't understand how they evolved from that monster to that humanoid figures

[valid gazelle]

techonologia

[solid quiver]

+shaman

sesqia really saved their ancestors' monsterious looks in their battle suit

[daring rapids]

like an animal

[solid quiver]

you saying you won't be moved after seeing juicy roasted steaks?

[craggy oyster]

alright that cant be vampire

it in dragon family

[craggy oyster]

ey Vn actually not like steak that much

[valid gazelle]

tf you say

who would reject steak

[daring rapids]

except u are the steak

[craggy oyster]

well i would say we dont cut beef into steak and eat like western

we eat more smaller pcs

[valid gazelle]

bít tết is literally Beef Steak

[craggy oyster]

i didnt say it not exist

[daring rapids]

beef is beef

[valid gazelle]

its our breakfast wdym vn dont like steak

[craggy oyster]

who tf say i prefer bít tết over phở bò

[scenic mesa]

[valid gazelle]

thế mới hay look... im not saying that phở is inferior

phở is goated

but if phở is 10/10 then bít steak with bánh mì and sốt hàu is a close 9/10

[craggy oyster]

nah bún chả is goated

[valid gazelle]

bún chả ?? you bucky

[craggy oyster]

phở is media favorite

[valid gazelle]

[solid quiver]

pho soup?

[craggy oyster]

honestly there are so many dish in VN that equal to phở, they just dont get as much attention like phở abroad

[daring rapids]

sorry you're alone on this one fam

[valid gazelle]

bún bò recognition when

[craggy oyster]

wdym

[valid gazelle]

i'll defend phở with my life

even tho i like bún bò too.

you have no idea how happy i was when i found an authentic bún bò corner when I was in Tokyo

i almost cried from the smell

[subtle finch]

[daring rapids]

bruh who tf go to Tokyo just to eat bún bò?

[craggy oyster]

u dont need to defence, u already lost. it really depend on the person. Phở just get the most attention in the western media

[valid gazelle]

i had my internship there, and I longed for authentic VN dishes bro

[craggy oyster]

then they get brainwashed into thinking phở is the best in Vn

[valid gazelle]

"depend on the person" > then to me phở is goated

your words not mine

[lofty lodge]

damn.... this chat make me hungry. Gotta find instant noodle

[valid gazelle]

i gotchu fam

[scenic mesa]

Yum

[valid gazelle]

[craggy oyster]

im starting to think u are the whitewashed one

[valid gazelle]

like how ?

[daring rapids]

all pho this bun that and you pulled out a hao hao

[craggy oyster]

every VN know mỳ tôm 2 trứng+sting = the best

[daring rapids]

[scenic mesa]

Stink

Lmao

[valid gazelle]

sorry but im not rich enough to go to net cafe when i was a child

[craggy oyster]

fkin autocorret

[solid quiver]

I thought pho soup is Thailand's

[craggy oyster]

WHAT

dont u dare

[solid quiver]

net cafe was cheap everywhere tho

[valid gazelle]

exactly

i didnt get allowance bro

[solid quiver]

bruh

[daring rapids]

well that's your parents-

[solid quiver]

you mindless child

you just bet on it

[valid gazelle]

yes.. all i had back then was my pc and my playstation at home..

[solid quiver]

whether to who pays for it

[craggy oyster]

i mean, i started to go to netcafe when im in my uni

[valid gazelle]

i couldnt have any money to go outside to net cafe...

[solid quiver]

ps at home...

[valid gazelle]

[solid quiver]

not rich kid

[scenic mesa]

Ps at home

[valid gazelle]

nah jk.. all i had was a laptop

[solid quiver]

you don't even need to net cafe

laptop?

bruh

[scenic mesa]

Dude stop

.stop

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/shu-arknights-sui-gif-7073468061133619170

[valid gazelle]

ye a stinky dell thingy with.. iirc 2GB of ram

[solid quiver]

that shi is more expensive than actual pc

[craggy oyster]

ye

[valid gazelle]

and 256mb of vram

[solid quiver]

2gb of ram in decades agos?

[valid gazelle]

ya

[solid quiver]

bruh

[valid gazelle]

mom's hand-me-down

[scenic mesa]

Thats equal to 2 miliom ram today

Xd xd jk but still

[solid quiver]

that sounds expensive than my family pc

[craggy oyster]

my bro have this thing when i was in highschool

[valid gazelle]

i think it was.. 2012 ?

[craggy oyster]

that's all i have

[valid gazelle]

damn okay uncle

im sorry,,,

[daring rapids]

how old are u

[craggy oyster]

let just say worth of uncle title

[valid gazelle]

and i thought im the oldest vn here

[daring rapids]

at least in 30

[scenic mesa]

Unc

[daring rapids]

[craggy oyster]

ye

[daring rapids]

a 30 year-old playing Endfield...

now that I think about it

it's kinda wild

[craggy oyster]

i mean it's techical game lol

[valid gazelle]

nah dont sweat it..

[craggy oyster]

i give no fuck about gacha and wifu and shiet

[valid gazelle]

i have a 40-yo uncle in my server playing AK

[pulsar willow]

so um, what's wrong with 30-year olds or older people playing arknights?

im 25, am I old?

[valid gazelle]

ye what's wrong about it

[scenic mesa]

Yea, people gaming age very variety nowaday

[craggy oyster]

ye im pretty sure ppl can enjoy this game regardless of their age

[daring rapids]

I think it depends on family

[valid gazelle]

[daring rapids]

my family isnt so forward thinking

[valid gazelle]

arent YOU 🫵 the whitewashed one

[craggy oyster]

me?

[valid gazelle]

no GroundPound

ya cool fam

[daring rapids]

no my uncle would beat me if he sees me playing games

[craggy oyster]

i mean u are the one who like steak

[valid gazelle]

it is still an adopted VN dish

you bucky

[daring rapids]

who came up with this word?

[valid gazelle]

oh its just a .. winter soldier reference

in the south ofc

[valid gazelle]

im sorry....

Uncle* Bucky

[daring rapids]

no I mean this is the first time I've seen someone used the word that way

[valid gazelle]

where are my manners

[daring rapids]

[hoary crag]

that OS is older than I am lmao

[valid gazelle]

then now you've known it

[delicate edge]

I just got to Wuling. Not can't research plant water 😞 no balloon guy tech yet

[daring rapids]

[valid gazelle]

then you should run the story

[craggy oyster]

technically Bucky is grandgrandgrandparent

[valid gazelle]

isnt he.. during WW2 or Cold War era ?

[craggy oyster]

ye

[valid gazelle]

gramps

[jagged swallow]

did i just destory the copium ore

[valid gazelle]

yes

[craggy oyster]

they both more than 100+ yo

[valid gazelle]

now go bomb some ores

[jagged swallow]

idk

[valid gazelle]

brother.. WW2 is less than 100 years ago..

[delicate edge]

I'm 12% battery and about to go solo mission in story 😭
Need to go home and charge before contknuet

[craggy oyster]

bucky wasnt born in ww2

[solid quiver]

I think I know why y'all good at making traps in essense farms

[valid gazelle]

then how can he be 100+ yo....

my brother... WW2 ended in 1945

[craggy oyster]

he already grown as person when he become WS

[valid gazelle]

we're in 2026

[solid quiver]

80-90 years ago

[trail orchid]

Before adding a new Bug report, I wanted to ask if anyone encountered this issue before:
0 ins, 2 outs and it's working and the pipe is "empty" but the sewage goes through.

[delicate edge]

Can we place blue prints outside AIC? So I can just plop the towers with one blueprint for essence traps?

[valid gazelle]

its a known visual bug with pipes with lengths of 1

[trail orchid]

So already known?

[craggy oyster]

idk but he was born in 191x smt smt

[trail orchid]

Cause I couldn't find a bug report

[valid gazelle]

then its WW1...

[ruby sorrel]

it's cus the pipe doesn't have stuff in it for long enough cus it's only half full

[trail orchid]

I know the issue

[upper fiber]

did you checked in usual mode, not top view?

[trail orchid]

wanted to know if it's known

yes

even in 3d normal view it's empty

[solid quiver]

lol no

[craggy oyster]

visually it empty but it does go through

[trail orchid]

yeah I know

I already said that

I was asking if there is already a bug report, couldn't find it

[daring rapids]

[ruby sorrel]

just report it anyways so they know ppl care

[daring rapids]

I never bothered to report it myself

[craggy oyster]

it not a bug i think cuz nothing is there. the pipe is 0/1

[scenic mesa]

I guess its counted as a bug

Visually painful to see

[trail orchid]

Except something goes through there

[craggy oyster]

although in reality we cant have that pipe physic

[upper fiber]

like pipes are not aligned and people don't care

[trail orchid]

I do

[subtle finch]

visuals and ui doesn't reflect the pipes yeah, its known for quite a while now, i dont think anyone made a report yet though

[daring rapids]

@ruby sorrel I hope this wouldn't die on me

[ruby sorrel]

mine's been working

needs 2 if you put 1/s in

[craggy oyster]

what it actually do tho

[ruby sorrel]

or it leaks

[valid gazelle]

looks like an overflow valve

[craggy oyster]

send half to the left cru and the rest to treat?

ohhhh

[daring rapids]

no full to the left cru

until cru clog

[ruby sorrel]

send all to first side then 2nd is overflow

[craggy oyster]

is there anyone for belt?

[ruby sorrel]

probs just do the same thing with items on belt

[daring rapids]

it should never reach that threshold

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's like use 1 and add another 1 if you see it leaking

[daring rapids]

would it hurt though?

[ruby sorrel]

not sure, it should just work I suppose

[craggy oyster]

ic. so everytime it split to the right it's water

but then when it clog doesnt it slow down the sewage?

cuz there's water in the way

[ruby sorrel]

well you don't send more than 1/s in

[craggy oyster]

wth

did u use pipe control port to send 2 water in or smt

[ruby sorrel]

it's more useful for eff cus you don't have lots of surplus

either that or you section off a pipe to isolate the amount you want before sending it in

sewage it's probably better to merge 2x the max consumption downstream and then split half to test area

but it looks cool anyways

[craggy oyster]

that hella a setup

imagine guiding non factory players

[valid gazelle]

we dont have to

let the kyo guide them

[craggy oyster]

no

iwtl

[valid gazelle]

what ?

[ruby sorrel]

I don't even make bps what guiding are you talking about

[craggy oyster]

Iwintolose

[valid gazelle]

they are all the same to me

[craggy oyster]

hell no

iwtl making full sandleaf xir lines

atleast KyostinV can be trust

[small creek]

Kyo is not too bad

[valid gazelle]

more troubles for us to take care of when people running here asking why their factory isnt working

[small creek]

iwtl is js clown

[valid gazelle]

i didnt make this because of that one person

#TrustMeBro

[lofty lodge]

.tangtang2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1473055467092709655/117134493cfa4506.png?ex=6994d14f&is=69937fcf&hm=1e6a9ff7db5526ea0e479813be9b10d9312711146541ae361088402fdd1131b1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=1080

[daring rapids]

.bestgirl2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[small creek]

.worstgirl

[valid gazelle]

damn

[small creek]

ehh i thought there was a command for that

[valid gazelle]

wasnt there ?

[craggy oyster]

do u need to pay nitro for that?

[valid gazelle]

if this continues i will run out of ferrium

why is it that we are still running low on ferrium

[ruby sorrel]

just use less ferrium

[daring rapids]

let it go

[valid gazelle]

but.. the SIRcon

[daring rapids]

[valid gazelle]

[ruby sorrel]

just make 14.75

[craggy oyster]

cut down heto for that

[lofty lodge]

is meta storage not working?

[daring rapids]

sir you have too many sircon already

[valid gazelle]

hmm ?

[daring rapids]

stop being greedy

[valid gazelle]

I NEED MORE SIRCON

[valid gazelle]

im doing meta for dense candy cubes so i can keep up with the extra SIRcon

does it mean i have to manually transfer from V4 because it is overflowing like hell ?

[robust grove]

That's one way

[craggy oyster]

cut down heto lol

[valid gazelle]

no why i need more heto

why would i cut down something i need

[robust grove]

His greed

[craggy oyster]

u start to sound like djrossie

[valid gazelle]

wdym greed.. it is the duty of the factory to PRODUCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

[upper fiber]

i miss the 5x survey in a patch.... so many free oroberyl

[hoary crag]

lol

[craggy oyster]

emphasis on possible

[hoary crag]

why is [insert youtuber]'s blueprint not working

[vital narwhal]

ngl half the time it's because they ripped the codes without actually watching the video

[robust grove]

Is "cuz they fucked up" a good answer

[valid gazelle]

[robust grove]

Oh true lmao

[valid gazelle]

so fing true

[robust grove]

Or they modified something

[valid gazelle]

@daring rapids are you proud of your student

imma give you a medal

[small creek]

they dont have the patience to learn factory, expecting them to have the patience to watch a video seems futile

[daring rapids]

no I have no students

[valid gazelle]

[lofty lodge]

i kinda look random youtuber blueprint. Encourage me to find the problem and remake into a better setup.

[valid gazelle]

disowned lmao

[small creek]

well youre in luck because most of them are wasteful in 1 way or another

[dry comet]

at what level f wuling let me trade heavy xiranite and the big batteries on jingyu valley?

[small creek]

all in the name of ease of use

[valid gazelle]

jingyu doesnt trade heavy xyra

[valid gazelle]

what can hxyra do to the poor tribe

[craggy oyster]

i mean it lvl 3 now and probaly the max is lvl 4

[robust grove]

Tbf, all blueprints are wasteful in one way or another depending on what you're trying to optimize.

My shit is not optimal cuz I'm a protostash [censored by the bot]

[valid gazelle]

what's wrong with protostash

[dry comet]

then whats the best trade for that zone? im sick of trading yazhen syringes and small batteries

[valid gazelle]

scw

[robust grove]

Nothing other than me spamming it

[valid gazelle]

purposely utilizing* is the correct word here fam

[craggy oyster]

the highest price item u can produce?

[robust grove]

[craggy oyster]

rn it's SCW

[small creek]

Its true that you cant have everything
But what im trying to say is that content creator bps tend to have... nothing

except, well, ease of use

[lofty lodge]

damn... tangtang still poor due the event aftermath

[dry comet]

the small batteries, but in the other zone, i can sell the big batteries and heavy xyranite, that sells for much more

[valid gazelle]

she's always poor wdym

[robust grove]

I need to transfer my system into making cupruim components, I need to artifice stuff and I'm running low.

[valid gazelle]

my scw is overcapping

i had to stop its production to focus on gourds

[dry comet]

whats scw?

[robust grove]

I mean, that's one thing to optimize tbh.

Cuz when your blueprint is used by thousands of people, you'd rather not have every 7th person bothering you about it.

[craggy oyster]

are u lvl 2 on Jingyu? this is at lvl 3

[ruby sorrel]

I don't see NA bps with max ease of use auto plant loops no conduit fiddling still

[dry comet]

thank god, then i only need to level up, thx

[tall tangle]

thats what it looks like. metatransfer iron, 9 cubes balance.

[ruby sorrel]

having to manually add plants why don't I just build it myself

[small creek]

Its a metric that is only relevant to content creators, not factory enthusiasts who want to push the boundaries for a more efficient build

Its the sliced bread for the masses that the people who want donuts or pizza couldnt care less about

[valid gazelle]

[robust grove]

I mean, we're very much not the target audience

[valid gazelle]

im not saying like.. factory enthusiasts are elitists but sometimes.. their question is so .. in the tutorial and their wording makes it confusing to actually help

[small creek]

That i agree

But there's an overlap in our roles

[valid gazelle]

yep

[small creek]

Factory enthuasiasts and content creators both get asked for the best blueprint that they can copy

[craggy oyster]

yeah if a factory enthusiasit making youtube channel it would be diff . U can see they only make BP on new content, that's only ppl clueless ppl to shove it to thier base for the event/update and never touch it again

[valid gazelle]

not only so.. the amount of people who go here and complain about the factory.. in a game that is 80% factory

[small creek]

And the former cannot in good faith recommend the latter

Or at least, I've never seen that happening

[valid gazelle]

it wont

[robust grove]

At least most of the time the content creator bp are functional most of the time.

Some places content creators are the primary source of misinformation

[valid gazelle]

CC cares about views.. they hardly ever recommend other CCs.. let alone some unknown factory enthusiast

[small creek]

Yes, they are good enough

Most of them at least

But while its not realistic, I wish they were better

[valid gazelle]

@brittle sedge sensei. Go become a CC

in good faith

[brittle sedge]

Those who dont understand things will pick whatever the cc make

[craggy oyster]

that's why i can say i trust KyostinV. at least the dude's BP work as his intention

[brittle sedge]

To them thers no difference

[small creek]

If I know a good bp from here that is relatively easy to understand, then I will recommend it

The only time i would recommend a kyo bp is if they want a whole base

[robust grove]

Honestly, I don't mind it as much cuz in Warframe, ppl watch content creators being confidently wrong, copy their shit, doesn't fucking work, comes to builds channel to ask for help.

We give them help, they deny our advice and starts a fight over it.

[brittle sedge]

I cant im shy

[robust grove]

[small creek]

Which has been mostly phased out

Most enthusiasts focus on building specific parts now

From what ive seen, its only Net doing full bases now

[robust grove]

Here be like, "that blueprint is bad"
And ppl generally don't fight with you

[valid gazelle]

ye..

btw where's Net

[small creek]

Yea theres rarely a fight here in aic-fac

[valid gazelle]

i havent see em the entire day

[small creek]

I appreciate how chill this channel is

[valid gazelle]

truly

[brittle sedge]

Until a certain invidual appears

[craggy oyster]

I dont like full base build cuz everytime smt change u have to rebuild again unless u really plan for that already

[valid gazelle]

OY

IT IS PEACEFUL

DONT JINX IT

[craggy oyster]

which most of the time they dont

[daring rapids]

[brittle sedge]

[small creek]

I used to like to make it per version

like "Everything 1.2.2"

but then my slow ahh speed couldnt keep up with my standards

[robust grove]

They're not even that disruptive ngl. Just... Kinda slow if you get what I mean.

[valid gazelle]

im cool which showing people how fun the factory can be.. even from 0. But if they hit me with "oh i dont like factory" i stop immediately

and someone can take over

[craggy oyster]

yes. but my way is everything version except u get to use 60 70 % of the last one

[robust grove]

That's when you Kyo bp

[brittle sedge]

You have one thing to offer, they reject it. End of story

[valid gazelle]

yep

[hasty falcon]

@final sierra Do you know any tricks to lay pipes so they're as out of sight as possible? I'm currently trying to figure out if it's feasible to route multiple pipes around the edges of the Maintenance Zone in Wuling City

[small creek]

My standards before: compact, modular, and aesthetic
Now: compact, integrated, low fac count, power-efficient

no more aesthetic so my builds look so ass i just dont publish

[valid gazelle]

no i dont. They'll go to Kyo's, they cant get it to work, and they blame me for showing them to Kyo's

[brittle sedge]

Wheres the aesthetic

[valid gazelle]

i just stop

[small creek]

it just disappeared

i dont care about aesthetic anymore

[brittle sedge]

[ruby sorrel]

the aesthetics is the horrible spaghetti somehow working

[small creek]

as long as i can force that depot loader

[robust grove]

Mine before is kinda just compact, localized manufacturing

Wuling threw a wrench in that plan.

[small creek]

low fac count too

i try to kill bridge as much as possible

so like

[valid gazelle]

Me: It works ? Cool

[small creek]

theres so much to do every single time i want something lmao

[valid gazelle]

i dont care about aesthetics.. it HAS TO WORK FIRST

[robust grove]

The game ain't that complicated, it works
~~until it doesn't ~~

[ruby sorrel]

it needs to waste bus space

[craggy oyster]

my standard has always been compact and symetrical. Can be semi modular to fit symetrical aspect

[small creek]

aic is free bro 🥀

14 depot loaders

[ruby sorrel]

I locked my other bus hub

[valid gazelle]

or the stash for a low price of 5 KWs

[small creek]

vi i will kill u

[valid gazelle]

i will defend

[small creek]

parry this

[valid gazelle]

[small creek]

NO STASHES IN MY HOUSEHOLD

[ruby sorrel]

look I trapped my other bus for fun

[nova pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229271586352402452/1483274666259906640/IMG_2892.gif

[final sierra]

some pipes can be half buried under the ground or objects due specific placement, I think that's all i know about hiding them

[ruby sorrel]

put hxira in the middle of the field

it's beautiful

[hasty falcon]

Darn, oh well

[nova pilot]

Mine too but *perfectly symmetrical

[valid gazelle]

[final sierra]

btw never tried to hide them XD

[craggy oyster]

said the guy who put oneside sandleaf and oneside yazhen

that shiet bother me sooo much in ur build

[valid gazelle]

wait what

[hasty falcon]

I like my map to be as pristine as possible, so I want to try and hide them

[nova pilot]

Blame the 80x80

[hasty falcon]

Even my conduits, I layed out using a route that avoids the main map as much as possible

[nova pilot]

And the limit too

[robust grove]

Slap down another planter and pretend it does something

[valid gazelle]

behold.. my abomination

[craggy oyster]

btw i saw some guy postin ur build in Vn group

[valid gazelle]

huh

what

huh

[nova pilot]

Shared?

[craggy oyster]

ye

sadly he just said random guy in discord

[valid gazelle]

damn so we have another one lurking

[craggy oyster]

[nova pilot]

😭

[robust grove]

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/bE4fn.gif

[robust grove]

Behold, my shitty internet, it won't load.

[hoary crag]

the latest addition to the core aic's pipe system

[craggy oyster]

probably only in blueprint channel

[valid gazelle]

my last night shift i'll cya later ~

new company = no more night shift

oh wait here's my base

without top down

[hasty falcon]

That's quite the wall clipping

[final sierra]

btw you want to place them there for water mining or pipes from wuling to test area?

[hoary crag]

also my remaining facilities

[valid gazelle]

i havent counted that yyet

[hasty falcon]

From Test Area to Wuling

[upper fiber]

should i just send all my forges to marker stone...

[hardy tangle]

not only bus space, but also facility limit

[craggy oyster]

pipe spliter count seperately?

i thought they all in facility

[hoary crag]

mountain view when

[ruby sorrel]

it depends

in wuling it's separate

[hoary crag]

pipe logistics counted separately

[hardy tangle]

pipes are separated

[hoary crag]

conduits, pumps, and supply units count to regular facilities

[hasty falcon]

I got my acid routed to Wuling and I am happy with that route, but I don't think that route can accommodate the additional conduits needed for the Purification Unit

[final sierra]

so you want pipes all the way instead of 1 underground part as i did here:
#aic-factory message

on map route wiev:
#aic-factory message

[hardy tangle]

gj, hope u regret that

xD

[valid gazelle]

I think @marble yarrow has that picture that explains the limits

Apparently there are multiple different limiations

[craggy oyster]

I saw that but it didnt say pipe splitter count in pipe pipe limit

pretty chill on both

[nova pilot]

This one Vi?

[valid gazelle]

Ya

[hasty falcon]

That's almost the same route I used for my acid conduits, but my beginning part was slightly different

[craggy oyster]

how can u hit 1152 when belt+facility max is 512

wait it said right there .im blind

[hasty falcon]

I guess I should try seeing if I can fit the purification nodes in that route, too

[craggy oyster]

i never know we have 128 limit

[keen river]

its not even correct

there is a limit for pipes too, its 96 in marker stone

no idea for core

[ruby sorrel]

the categories are split differently in marker stone

[craggy oyster]

it said wuling city limit

and prorbably only around the wuling base

the alluvium zone in wuling city pipe limit is 32

[vapid dock]

how do you adjust inputs in enka

[upper fiber]

tap the building

[upper fiber]

tap the big xiranite image

and voila, 30/min

🤣

[vapid dock]

it just opens the item registry

[upper fiber]

yes, it is always 30/min

[dense blade]

pipe logistics limit pipe segment limit belt segment limit facility limit (+logistics)

[vapid dock]

but its saying 0/min in supply

[upper fiber]

because it is clogged

or you don't belt it to depot loader or pac

or stash

or for pipes it is conduit inlet

[meager stream]

.cinema

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknights-theresa-absolute-cinema-absolute-sinema-arknights-absolute-cinema-gif-5725006416369647831

[vapid dock]

im just gonna pretend the inputs are correct

in the simulation

[craggy oyster]

send output to somewhere , make sure no machine is clogged and everything is powered. However it not perfect, some weird build can work normally in game and clogged in enkad

[tall thunder]

I start putting Xircon from the Test Area inside Ferrium Bottles

[dense blade]

[valid gazelle]

Net ~

[wide pecan]

Yea enkad calculation sometimes messed up

[valid gazelle]

Good morning (?)

[ruby sorrel]

it doesn't run long enough now with test area stuff

[craggy oyster]

The valve?

[dense blade]

hi

[dense blade]

moring

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463373781912387607/1503386542490648686/1778492043214774.gif

[ruby sorrel]

no the enkad sim, testing the 14.75SC there and it doesn't clog xircon in the 2.75 before time limit

[keen river]

yeah, there are some weird issue with enkad

it also doesnt seem to accept depot unloaders as item source which is pretty unfortunate

but it only seem to happen for some items somehow

havent seen the enka guy around for a while to report it to him tho

[craggy oyster]

I think it the liquid logic

[keen river]

in my case its the unloaders misbehaving

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=r8b6Y5Z6q7v2q9

it expects that there will be 4 lanes of processed copium, but its not taken into account at all

meanwhile, xiranite is normally unloaded without problems

[tall tangle]

in 4 days i will need 4/min splitter

[subtle finch]

make 1/min every day, and add them together

[ruby sorrel]

I wonder if there's a smaller clog ver of 4/min too

[vast iron]

Whar

[valid gazelle]

Dem.. splitter talk has summoned the hecker

[dense blade]

[ruby sorrel]

well these big ones work for all cases

[vast iron]

splitter talk always summons me from pure trauma

[hoary crag]

why does this look like it came from an actual blueprint irl lmao

[ruby sorrel]

I think you might be able to make them smaller because you don't need to avoid the clogging when used for low throughput

[dense blade]

I haven’t yapped here in a while

[valid gazelle]

Now now ...

[dense blade]

[ruby sorrel]

I remember the 6/min had an extra row because the initial splitter clogs ifyou don't leave 2 spaces after it

[valid gazelle]

Anyway net i want to show you my abomination

[dense blade]

uh

[valid gazelle]

Pure abomination

[hoary crag]

weren't you here like yesterday

[hoary crag]

it's watching u

[valid gazelle]

I know

[hoary crag]

both the and the factory

[valid gazelle]

Im staring at it too

[dense blade]

was I

maybe I spoke like once or twice

[dense blade]

why is the inside asymmetrical

[vital narwhal]

bro I realized catastrophic oversight with this design, it doesn't extract the heto from expanded reactor

[dense blade]

[valid gazelle]

I cant..

[dense blade]

sacrifice efficiency

and the

[hoary crag]

now to think of it

[valid gazelle]

No

I need the Fumo

[hoary crag]

I haven't done that in a while

[dense blade]

uh

[hoary crag]

tho I'll just wait for 1.3

[dense blade]

delete the pac

[valid gazelle]

I wish

[hoary crag]

imagine

and then the entire factory just dies

😭

[valid gazelle]

I can see why it is 9x9

But damn it makes it asymmetrical

[hoary crag]

still criminal how they made the core an odd-sided facility

on a fucking

[vital narwhal]

someone should make AIO where protocol stashes AND depot loaders are banned, PAC loaders allowed only

[hoary crag]

even sided area

[hoary crag]

no

[valid gazelle]

What is this.. AIC CC ?

[vast iron]

no-no protocol stashes-s??

im ded

[valid gazelle]

Great now im triggered...

Ill redesign it tmr

[vast iron]

im like

[valid gazelle]

[vast iron]

#1 protocol stash abuser

[vital narwhal]

i'm pretty sure AIO stashless is reasonably achievable, no depot loader on top of that is pretty insane though

[brittle sedge]

you can never be truely symmetrycal with those fluid ports on facilities

[valid gazelle]

I can

In a way....

[dense blade]

is this what trying to cram 8 forges into sub pac does to you

[slow canyon]

Sanity check, does this make any sense for you guys? XD
I was dabbling in prefill options to keep the loop going...

[meager stream]

ah i see, CC? big nooooo

[craggy oyster]

i saw this and i thought it fine. it actually no cup powder to it

[valid gazelle]

Wdym by big no m

Its a big HELL YES

I love seeing myself suffer

[vital narwhal]

yes, but also using subPAC loaders in 7 forge sub has opened my eyes to the light

[valid gazelle]

over and over just because "I can do it"

[hoary crag]

ya'll realize there'll be 5-10x more of those annoying fucks when AIC CC actually drops?

those who like

copy youtuber blueprints who don't even bother to watch the vids it's from

[sterile stratus]

aic cc lol

really...

[valid gazelle]

Simple we just don't interact if you feel like it's a hassle

Saves you the trouble

If it's not for you, someone else will take your place and help

[vast iron]

yesterday i had to re build more protocol stash

[dense blade]

[vast iron]

literally ran out of stashes

thats how much i use

[dense blade]

what is aic cc

[brittle sedge]

in those time hide your existence

[valid gazelle]

And get yourself some nice popcorn instead

[dense blade]

is it supposed to be a limiting joke

[vast iron]

whats aic cc again

[sterile stratus]

maybe build a production line with the given rate

[dense blade]

aic but you can’t use certain facilities

I’m guessing

[sterile stratus]

limited area, facility, power, maybe idk

[dense blade]

theoretical mode

[tall tangle]

my shitty calc tells me that it's more than 4

[vast iron]

gimme aic sandbox instead

infinite size

[sterile stratus]

hosted on your device, you're welcome

well aic sandbox should be nice

[vast iron]

limited area and power used to be a thing

idk if we do that anymore tho

not as of rn

[sterile stratus]

infinite power might be possible idk

max prod is 15 sc/min so... 32kw is max

and at least you won't need 32kw unless you intentionally want to reach that consumption

[vital narwhal]

I thought I would need a crazy redesign not only because things already very tight at the top, but also needing another depot loader so the whole design would need to shift and space allocation would become a lot worse. But it turns out I can let heto 16.25 piggy back theoretical 13.25 xircon (idk if it's exactly 13.25 though with purinode eff, need to check calc for that)

[vast iron]

is that a challenge

[craggy oyster]

it is because of liquid logic. ur original design somehow it detect that the passthrough axit slow down the whole process by 50%, that's why Fe is also 50%

[dense blade]

big yes

[vast iron]

your hetonite pipe might be capped

…

oh wait no

im dum

pretend i said nothing

[dense blade]

3 xir lines into expanded is crazy

I didn’t even think of that

[scenic mesa]

what im gonna with these 10 xiranite left guys

[dense blade]

should be 6 more

eat it

you can sell it

1 each

[scenic mesa]

uwaaaaaa

the unsatisfaction

i cant handle this

[dense blade]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-arknights-endfield-gif-17735632637872025915

[ruby sorrel]

wait this is 1/13 🔥

[craggy oyster]

niceeeeee

[keen river]

nah, you can throw the excess acid to inlet and it still wont work

the issue is with the processed copium unloaders, they dont unload items that should be produced in other zne

[ruby sorrel]

apparently double clogging gives 1/13

[vast iron]

Stop it

stop.

[scenic mesa]

.stop2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[dense blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463373781912387607/1503386542490648686/1778492043214774.gif

[scenic mesa]

wonder why fangyi do this pose but not yvone, her massive tail look way more funny for this

[gaunt vault]

Hi, I need help with initial builds. So I'm facing a problem with the red stones. The equipment to mine it is limited and the substance it needs to build similar equipments is weird to develop (the red thing idk). It's taking way to much power and I'm unable to make that thing. Pls. help with an initial build.

[vital narwhal]

Could your clarify your question? Is your idea in this case to explore production trees where expanded crucible producing xircon is executing inert/eff recipe at full speed while accepting eff from purinode?

[brittle sedge]

redstone? minecraft?

[vast iron]

aic = redstone confirmed

building PC

[gaunt vault]

Yea, I need mines to extract it. And the thing to build the miner is built FROM the same mined stuff. Idk I'm having difficulty in building that thing it needs.

[vast iron]

you can mine the clusters next to it manually

[vital narwhal]

you should have eight hydro rigs somewhere in your depot from the research

like it gives 8 free, which you should have unless deleted

as last resort, can manual mine like hkrzs suggested

[vast iron]

gifted power vs pure effort

[gaunt vault]

Ooh ic ic, so I can't access depot machines. I might have quick stashed them idk. Pfft-

[vital narwhal]

ye, normal to happen lol

I just realize I posted wrong version of fix, hxira can't feed into that loader anymore, all the throughput occupied by the 13.75 xircon and 16.25 heto

[dense blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796746500789108758/1464847241108783237/endfield_bomb.gif

[modern scarab]

whats the end game production rate for items like buck A, HC valley and canned citrome C at max mineral purity and efficiency?

[dense blade]

18 18 12

[vital narwhal]

18, 18, 24 respectively

[dense blade]

oh 24

memory foggy

[modern scarab]

so i dont need to modify anymore on this?

[vital narwhal]

yea you've got the origocrust too

[dense blade]

maybe bombs

https://tenor.com/view/explode-arknights-endfield-gif-17735632637872025915

[vital narwhal]

wait citrome c is tradeable right? i never used myself lol

[dense blade]

yea

[modern scarab]

yeah it is

ok i guess i have everything done for valley thanks guys

im working on wuling but im still at regional development 13 so i cant do the max builds yet

[ruby sorrel]

smh believe in the 19.75/14.5

although if you forget to sell things 2 days in a row it's over, but ig it's about the same with 18 18

[craggy oyster]

which is 19.75 again?

[ruby sorrel]

buckA

14.5 lets you offload some orig into LC so you aren't burning as many HC

so HC can clear science park

maybe you can do the same with 18/18 if your power is well managed idk

[craggy oyster]

i dont get it.
18+18=36
19.75+14.5 = 34.25

so u selling LC aswell?