aic-factory

[cursive oasis]

It kinda just counts how much would be theoretically consumed by each building. I have some buildings inactive and they still increase theoretical consumption despite not working.

So my theoretical data on some stuff is massively in the red.

[bleak reef]

xiranite monster

I hate this so much

[cursive oasis]

In loop specifically it counts production from planter and consumption by seeder each time.

[bleak reef]

512 for wuling city is just too little

[keen river]

yeah

[vivid shore]

Yeah, but i only have 6 unloaders consuming these, so why whould the consumed go up by 30 each time a put a line? Only the yeild should go up

[bleak reef]

considering core aic is there

[vivid shore]

Ill take a look at this

[keen river]

enjoy your massive hole in the middle i guess

[vivid shore]

I also have this zipline, i got it randomly

[keen river]

yeah same

its the best one for sure

[vivid shore]

I have a few more like these, in impossible locations

I always wonder how tf they got up there

[keen river]

a lot of those hills are climbable or you can glitch them with zipline placement

[cursive oasis]

I kinda thought they modified jump height then looked for gaps in invisible walls.

[keen river]

some probably date back to the yvonne rotation trick

eh, i dont even know where those 512 buildings went

i dont see much opportunities to free the space

[winged oriole]

I salvaged pylons and ran pipes instead to recover some count in my Wuling City

for mining

Maybe I should just tear down the farm though I never go there anymore

[keen river]

i still use it so eeh

[cursive oasis]

I may not use farm anymore due to massive stockpile of rare plants from there, but I want it to stay in place "just in case" anyways.

I'd rather just wait for increase of Protocol Capacity.

[undone current]

hmm dats should be count as 9/30 ?

[foggy pasture]

I'd rather them just remove protocol costs from ziplines, farms, and turrets. They all have their own limits anyways

[undone current]

7 +9

[cursive oasis]

Yeah, and each costs a lot of Protocol to boot.

[foggy pasture]

Zips are 3 and Turrets are 2, fully using both is 150 and 30 respectively which is more than half our protocol space

It doesn't help that zips also require power so its a cost of 4 anyways

[cursive oasis]

Most of Protocol is eaten by electric pylons to supply stuff as well, so you hit maximum at large or complicated maps fast.

[undone current]

@vast iron heck, does 9/30 technically just 7.5 with more delay time on belts?

[vast iron]

9 on 30?

[undone current]

3/10 splitter

[vast iron]

3/10 split huh

its possible

[vast iron]

just 1/5 into 1/2?

6/30 -> halfed

[undone current]

can u do it with only 1 input?

[vast iron]

wait

no

what am i saying

3/10 is 9/30

[vast iron]

its probably possible

we can get 27/30 by excluding a 1/10 then divide the rest by 3

[undone current]

kinda forgot but does converger give some delay?

[cursive oasis]

Think it did offline.

[keen river]

about 20 protocol space left

😔

[ancient pier]

Do you guys think this has any flaw?
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=E8X6q9y2d9x8q8

[keen river]

i probably can move those planters on top left to marker stone, but thats about it

[undone current]

welp, time to test it

114-116

7 already used on xircon

[atomic swan]

What the hell?

Ya'll have too much freedom with the factory – what am I looking at?

[copper lily]

Depending on metastorage is suck.
Valley4 suck
Rip my 25/m ori cube.

[atomic swan]

Ouch.

[nova pilot]

I can lend you a 22.5/m splitter if you want?

[cursive oasis]

Yeah, it's best used for growing stockpiles, not actually upkeeping them. Y'know, like moving a bunch of bottles so you could use them in Wuling instead of making them in Wuling.

[frail tinsel]

why it won’t place

[tough berry]

rip me im forced to wiste 50 power since uneven water sewage or it clogs again

[cursive oasis]

Check if either an errant pipe\belt is in the way, or some random item is dropped on the ground.

[frail tinsel]

lol it was the jincao drink i threw out

[cursive oasis]

Yeah, it's pretty much random items or random pipes. Belts tend to glow orange, so they are obvious.

[frail tinsel]

ahh i gacha thanks uh lot!

[river badge]

Thanks!

[austere lodge]

One of these days

I will make sure to get that compact triple xiranite line

[tough berry]

there one

EFO01893u7OE6i1a0UI73 america EFO01ouiO38Aa76uIieO sea

[tame sedge]

Looks like a solid plan. I didn't verify outpost size, but the idea is good

[keen river]

27 facility limit left 😔

technically i can place the xiranite factory so i guess its good enough

but eeh

btw, is enka guy still passing by sometimes?

havent seen him in a while

[tough berry]

dont know its mostly han and vi i see daily

[marble parrot]

was there any unlimited sewage for these appearing outside wuling city?

[keen river]

unfortunately no

only those three sewage pools in the world but all are finite

so the only way to feed those is through the sewage from factory

[marble parrot]

i see

[daring folio]

You just gotta run lines all the way back, its kind of a pain in the ass.

[halcyon slate]

is it more effective to input raw resources and make a big chain for something, or to chunk it out?
first pic would be what i mean by the first one, 2nd would be making all your carbon in one area, and all your originium in another, then unloading those for a final product

[surreal lantern]

depend on what you prefer

[foggy pasture]

Depends on your needs and preferences really.

If you make a big chain you're more independent of the depot whilst using more depots tends to make your builds shorter and wider

There are some cases like cuprium refining or xiranite where it'd be best to make it somewhere else given their processing steps don't change between recipes, also in the case of cuprium all your sewage is in one place

[halcyon slate]

im just starting basic xiranite and am a bit overwhelmed

[surreal lantern]

also, change your plants for making carbon

[foggy pasture]

Yeah, start farming Wuling plants. Its 2 plants per seed and 2 carbon per plant. So its about 4x efficient than Valley 4 plants

[surreal lantern]

wuling plants yield 2 carbon, unlike valley4

[halcyon slate]

im ngl, i didnt realize you could make wuling plants into carbon cause they didnt auto appear in refinery

[foggy pasture]

Yeah its a discoverable recipe and you can really only find out if you were experimenting or someone else told you

[halcyon slate]

i just saw this and thought "guess im still stuck with these two"

damn

[foggy pasture]

the only other discoverable recipe is like making fertilizer which is kinda useless and has an annoying opportunity cost to it

[robust grove]

It's a pretty shitty recipe

[surreal lantern]

realll

cuz u use shit

[robust grove]

Wish you could just buy it off the other guy directly instead of this bs

[surreal lantern]

what worst is we have to wait them shit

[foggy pasture]

Why can't we just use Wuling's sewage system

[halcyon slate]

the idea of using a depot from two sides is mythical

wuling crazy

[surreal lantern]

back to your original question

many ppl make a big chain starting from plants to xeranite

[scenic mesa]

True, i should make lc batt to used up these originum, but im too lazy now cause i know its not super importance right now

[surreal lantern]

for me, i separate planting and start change with unload plants

[halcyon slate]

i do plants seperately cause its easy

[green sleet]

My tripple Xiranite is now done and being turned into heavy. Its a long boi, but it runs full tilt.

[foggy pasture]

Lots of people make their xiranite an all in one solution where its totally independent from the depot, allows you to shove it in some corner you don't care about

[surreal lantern]

i prefer sth easy to scale up, esp since plants used in many recipes.

[junior wind]

do hydro mining rigs mine more than the electric ones

[surreal lantern]

no

[foggy pasture]

Same rate, but they use no power cept for the pump

[surreal lantern]

though you have to mind about high purity and low purity, else your yield will drop

[foggy pasture]

If you want to save power go for it (not a lot of power mind you), don't reccomend it for Wuling City though because Protocol space is tight

[halcyon slate]

just thinking how i wanna do xiranite

i like modularity but wuling kinda sucks for that cause pipes

[foggy pasture]

From experience, piping isn't too bad for water

[halcyon slate]

and whether i want to do xiranite on depot or off

[surreal lantern]

you just start

piping is easy

it getting worse as you go on

[halcyon slate]

on makes it more modular, but off means i can save the depots, but then again how many depots am i rly gonna need

choices

[foggy pasture]

My battery set up takes like 18 depots

though the sides are fair game

[halcyon slate]

this game got me fucked up, satisfactory did NOT prep me for this

[worn rampart]

You can have 7 xiranite farm in Jingyu

[foggy pasture]

Yeah definitely reccomend using Jingyu as a xiranite place, saves so much space.

[halcyon slate]

problem

[foggy pasture]

Yeah worry about it later

[halcyon slate]

in that case ill go modular so i can just easily copy paste to jingyu later

problem solved

[worn rampart]

Oh you need a max jingyu 😅

[green sleet]

Modular is the best.

[foggy pasture]

Modular focus is the way to go tbh, you won't have to tear down a lot of your factory between patches

[surreal lantern]

we still tear down regardless

[green sleet]

And it can be like a jigsaw puzzle fitting all your bps together.

[surreal lantern]

next patch gonna have new aic + factory for sure.. and maybe hc battery one. so have to tear down again

[foggy pasture]

not when your blueprints are neat rectangles

[green sleet]

Those are the easy puzzle pieces you get to stick wherever they fit as a treat

[foggy pasture]

my only experience with puzzle pieces is realizing my battery setups were just 2 wedges so I just made it a square

[green sleet]

They can also fit pretty neatly on either side of a trip Xira-> Dual H-Xira line. Many possibilities.

[halcyon slate]

proof of concept but the weird lil gap at the top pmo

but theres a start

[foggy pasture]

its a start yeah

[halcyon slate]

i forgot a depot for the xiranite

whoops

but point still stands

im gonna make a x2 version and just keep one as a x1

[surreal lantern]

anything is fine at this point

until you hit a factory limit and need to use less belt / depot

[split horizon]

I hope we get one last Wuling outpost. I hit the item limit in the AIC, before I realized I had a full Xarinite production line I didn't need.

[cobalt hedge]

i feel like we're bound to. even just looking at the new map itself without listening to general chatter, we should have gotten a new outpost area but didn't. 1.2 has been stretched out so i feel like 1.3 is likely(?) going to have more

[halcyon slate]

this one doesnt recover the extra sandleaf powder but is width wise better

maybe im crazy idk

shit

i fucked up my ratios AGAIN, this time the powder to grinders

its worse now but WHATEVER

[upper fiber]

something like this

[halcyon slate]

wait powder into carbon powder???

[upper fiber]

yeah

sandleaf powder to powder as well

[foggy pasture]

burning the powder is crazy

[halcyon slate]

damn i could slightly change my design and make it use JUST sandleaf

[craggy oyster]

refiner -> shredder = shredder ->refiner

[upper fiber]

but the ratio is bad for sandleaf, just like buckflower

[halcyon slate]

ik ik

just having an extra sand powder that does nothing but clog up outputs kinda pmo

[foggy pasture]

i mean its handy for deliveries

[halcyon slate]

oh wait

nvm no im dumb

i couldnt do that actually

[valid gazelle]

That is where my SIRcon comes into play

The extra bit from purification node keeps piling up

[upper fiber]

wonder when i will get timed out delivery for test area one.... no one doing it

[foggy pasture]

i just sentence my excess xircon to batteries

[valid gazelle]

It doesn't consume fast enough for me...

And I'm already at 14.5 battery

[foggy pasture]

i mean its like 1-2 per minute/ its decent enough

[valid gazelle]

Where's more originium

[upper fiber]

seems like i have to make heto comp just to suppress the excess before update

[foggy pasture]

i dont know how you have origium as the bottle neck unless you're making LCs too

[valid gazelle]

[valid gazelle]

Im alreadying using 290 densed originium

But 77~87 SIRcon just outpaces it

Slowly but surely

[craggy oyster]

it u run out of storage

just bottle it

[upper fiber]

why you making so many xircon

don't input xira to the crucible

[robust grove]

are you like, only doing 12/m? cuz if you try to spend all the xircon it's just not enough

[valid gazelle]

Its fine I'd rather run out of originium than run out of SIRcon

[upper fiber]

i don't depot xircon so it is fine for me

[foggy pasture]

13-14/m

[valid gazelle]

Dense originium meta

[winged oriole]

I'm on Ferrium meta as if they do another Xiranite event I really will run out of places to dump ori for real

[valid gazelle]

Dense originium meta is always an option

Ye maybe i can bottle the Effluent

[void stag]

well i found a way to build outside of the aic area so time to see what i can do

muhaha

[valid gazelle]

Aight.. to make an overflow valve

[robust grove]

The puri plant?

[hidden hornet]

120 xircon an hour is prob pointless right?

[robust grove]

4 lines, so 1 hX line

I'm just gonna start calling xiranite with the element X and xircon Xi

[halcyon slate]

we need overflows so bad

[robust grove]

Could have called it zircon and I'd be easier to make the short names

[tough berry]

yep mX rn best is 75

[indigo obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463825271776870422/1506097052885450762/image.png?ex=6a0d05af&is=6a0bb42f&hm=8efb18b83669b3e4701d6146bea622adae53ed5ae38f3b45c62e58f788c49a6e&

[hidden hornet]

i ran out of protocall so i cant run a second battery line for it

its only a 36x14 area tho so imma keep it

[indigo obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463825271776870422/1506097702855770264/image.png?ex=6a0d064a&is=6a0bb4ca&hm=4ae1365fcbdb2c57097c14df2790c7cdc6f975e459ab2f9a9424307f7d0f79f5&

[hidden hornet]

wait so four lines is possible?

[atomic maple]

are we getting heavy xiranite at a faster rate than we're able to spend it LOL

[tough berry]

you can sell

the heavy

since rn solo bat dont work anymore

[atomic maple]

yeah but like, there's only one outlet of seeling heavy

are we gettin heavy faster than selling it

[tough berry]

the dsily intake at 25k i think while you can only produce 21k bat

[atomic maple]

is what im asking

[craggy oyster]

always have been

[tough berry]

ahh nope still faster at selling

[hidden hornet]

chinop is there not enough ori? for four lines

[indigo obsidian]

I have 1 last Pic but It's messy

[craggy oyster]

ofc

[hidden hornet]

some people prefer it messy

[indigo obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463825271776870422/1506097120632115250/image.png?ex=6a0d05bf&is=6a0bb43f&hm=3d927ebaf337761c87d09f2cafa7fa6b83f3ef975a899ca07fe23b582a621131&

[hidden hornet]

what about with the import

[hidden hornet]

pipes suck to work with in general

[tough berry]

i want my market stone less messy but i got heto there hv there xircon there lel

[indigo obsidian]

It's lessa capacity than inlet outlet if It's only 1 pipe

And in that case It is

[tough berry]

pipe weird stuff can go over depot buss but cant go over building

[indigo obsidian]

I do have a free forge of the sky to make heavy xiranite above 9/hour using purification center...i gotta see what's possibile tho

[craggy oyster]

1 SCW need 8 ori line = 240/min.
4 SCW = 240*4=960/min.
metastorage = 25 dense ori/min = 50 ori/min
so even if u tran all 540 ori from V4 it still 540+240+50 = 830/min. F

[hidden hornet]

ah womp

[indigo obsidian]

I have 7 xira in 1 outpost
2 heto component line and 1 xira in other putpost

[valid gazelle]

Or you can make sure to run it at max efficiency since we dont get a lot of those

[indigo obsidian]

And 3 heavy xira supposedly in main base

[hidden hornet]

so we could do three tho

[valid gazelle]

Maybe i should switch to 9+3

[indigo obsidian]

It Is at max efficiency

[hidden hornet]

and a lc line

[craggy oyster]

oh wait nvm u need to tran 960 - 540 -50 = 370 form V4, then it be enough

[tough berry]

0 bat?

[hidden hornet]

hmm number slop

[craggy oyster]

u can try to produce dense ori at V4 and tran it to save time space and power in wuling

[indigo obsidian]

I do the opposite chino

[craggy oyster]

but u gonna sac heavy xir tho

[indigo obsidian]

Transfer the xiricon to Valley lol

[hidden hornet]

why?

[indigo obsidian]

1 xiricon instead of 3 cubes Is easier transfer

[craggy oyster]

cuz if u do 4 u eat up almost xir i think.

let me cal

[hidden hornet]

how tf you making xircon in v4

[tough berry]

you transfer it

[hidden hornet]

inert purification

[tough berry]

theres alot of setup rn

[indigo obsidian]

U Just move the xiricon from wuling and u make the battery in the Valley where we have space lol

[hidden hornet]

oh i see

[craggy oyster]

purr = +25 % eff that's all

[indigo obsidian]

That doesn't remove the fact that i move orange cubes to wuling tho...It's Just complex i guess

[craggy oyster]

so u need 12 xir, if couting purr u need 9.6, maybe down to 9 ish if u use eff from purr node too, then u left with 6/mins h,xir only

barely

[tough berry]

so what max rn? i found max is 15 sc 12hv 75xircon/90 for potion build 12 potion or 6 part 2 xira comp

[hidden hornet]

you are overhere basically telling me my whole base wont work

[lofty lodge]

Don't forget wuling cooking event. All dish time limit is unlocked

[craggy oyster]

for me i dont even bother to cal what is max. i just use all resources give to me that's all

[tough berry]

can they give us more originijm and ferium

we thirst for it to much

in whole wuling arc

[indigo obsidian]

I wanna connect the test area to wuling main...but i don't wanna delete the Flex ziplines...bruh

[tough berry]

you can use split

[craggy oyster]

my guess is HCW coming soon, and there're gonna be new fomular for new type of xir , probably xircube. then there will be big increase for ori and such. this update is just filler

[tough berry]

just 1 by 1 it no long piping

wish hcw allows for 1 use only

for minmax

so i can fully off my valley

who producing bats and cubes

[craggy oyster]

wdym 1 use

[tough berry]

means 1 pc is enough to fully power all stuff per min

[stoic dock]

its been while since i came back to this server, what are we talkin bout?

[craggy oyster]

me lol

[foggy pasture]

The day we get HCWs is when we actually aren't given like 2 ore deposits and some pocket lint

[craggy oyster]

now starting to cap back wuling resouce

[tough berry]

this pocket innert in sewage though is ass

forcing me to use extra power

[foggy pasture]

I feel like hoarding all these cryston components is like being in early 2000s holding bit coin

worthless until like the 2 decades later it takes off

[craggy oyster]

well most item is worthless since we over the cap of how many bill outpost can earn

might aswell hoard it for fun lol

[robust grove]

How much sewage are we actually making.

Like,
1 from Heto
8 from Cu refinement

2 consumed for Xr
1 consumed for Effluent (hXi)

Or am I missing something

[valid gazelle]

Nope you are correct

But that is if you are running at max heto

If you are going half you get like.. 5.5 of a line to the purinode

[tough berry]

wonder how much of ppl remains sending testing area delivery

i see alot expire daily

[meager stream]

opening job vacancies

[craggy oyster]

ngl i think it the game self generate one

[winged oriole]

I'm doing 2 a day

[craggy oyster]

there're suddenly a big increase of jobs this update

[meager stream]

also storage up from 68k to 82k

[craggy oyster]

before u have to reset 3 4 times to get one. and this patch job fill to the brim out of no where

[undone current]

nvm, it does "work"

[valid gazelle]

Because at the start people hadn't set up ziplines yet

So they sent the burden to someone else

[meager stream]

.stop2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[craggy oyster]

holy , to cap the new wuling storage u need exactly 8 manual transfers

no need to check item anymore

[valid gazelle]

When can we ride perlica's bike game

[craggy oyster]

i thought we can produce bike to travel around ngl

[undone current]

ok for a second i saw it as
can we ride perlica

[craggy oyster]

we pull everything out of thin air

[valid gazelle]

No horni

[craggy oyster]

how hard can it be for a bike

[undone current]

btw vi, can u test making 3/10 split with 1/4split but u add another converger as delayer

[valid gazelle]

Eh im not very good at splitters but i can try later

A 3/10 huh..

[undone current]

yeah

[craggy oyster]

which item tho

[undone current]

ferrium

[craggy oyster]

no i mean what end product u wanna make

[undone current]

oh, its jincao c

[craggy oyster]

then delay by jincao

a planter have 5 output , can easy make a 1/10

[undone current]

[nova pilot]

They have scooters and tuktuks in Wuling

[undone current]

i can try it later

[valid gazelle]

3/10.. is that 1/10 + 1/5

I'll try but

A few days ago i did some voodoo magic and made a 1/23

[undone current]

[halcyon slate]

more basic stuff set up

next thing will be parts tmr

i dont wanna get into components tonight thats nightmarish

[nova pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463373781912387607/1503386542490648686/1778492043214774.gif

[valid gazelle]

She can sweep me anytime

[marble yarrow]

[valid gazelle]

Oh.. you don't use the excess Effluent?

[ruby sorrel]

it's like magic

[craggy oyster]

it's 3 4 3 4 . So it 3.5 ish

[ruby sorrel]

counting is hard

that's why I made a measuring tape

[craggy oyster]

i count the orange triangle

[vital narwhal]

it's 3/10

[halcyon slate]

help

time to ship in like 7 minutes worth every hour

so i can try and mitigate this disastrous usage ratio

[undone current]

da heck u even do

[vital narwhal]

for >12 scw designs, what's the easiest way to regulate the third xircon machine? limit the sewage vs. limit the ferrium? and in the case of latter, we need to do sewage passthrough right?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I think it's either passthrough or add a separate xircon crucible

[halcyon slate]

only have one patch of ferrite in wuling

[ruby sorrel]

or that one person who did the ??/73 splitter

[craggy oyster]

it change depend on how much heto part u make cuz the sewage output gonna be diff

[ruby sorrel]

uhh can't you just source it from a cuprium refiner for stability

I don't see a reason to use hetosewage as an input

or is this about something else entirely

[vital narwhal]

they referring to sewage output with respect to extra eff from purinode feeding into third xircon cruc since more xircon from extra eff = extra sewage too

[craggy oyster]

i just made random splitter like this to make sure there's no down time for 60 ori . no need to cal too much

[vital narwhal]

or I think that what they talking about

[ruby sorrel]

I should calc the actual sewage req if I mix it with the other hxira prod, but I don't think it'll be relevant, kinda want to get lcw numbers up in depot and that'll probs take until end of patch

[cyan forge]

when u run out of pipes so u have to do this:

[ruby sorrel]

??????

[robust grove]

What the sushi belt

[vital narwhal]

do this instead fam

[cyan forge]

uh what's that supposed to be

it's to connect it to fluid supply, not pump

[craggy oyster]

there's pipe limit. converger/splitter/bridge count toward facility limit i think

[ruby sorrel]

HOW

[cyan forge]

yes.

am capped on pipe, not facility

[ruby sorrel]

how do you have 96 pipe sections

[marble yarrow]

i actually do

[vital narwhal]

why not save pipes by doing what I suggested

but ig if it works then w/e

[cyan forge]

i don't understand what u r showing there

cos the one where i spammed bridge was going into fluid supply, while the top one is fluid pump

[craggy oyster]

isnt this 3 pipes? he only have 2

[vital narwhal]

if your bridges are adjacent, there are no pipes between them, so you won't run out of pipe. the changes I suggested will be the same functionally except saving you net 2 pipes

[ruby sorrel]

huh apparently belt is counted in fac for marker stone

[nova pilot]

I did half heto then 15/m ferrium powder. No need for sewage to pass thru if you halve the output from the Cuprium refinery which in my case goes to Water Treatment.

[green sleet]

Got things as compact as theyll go. Pretty happy with how it turned out. Plus if i move the 2 heavies, it could comfortably fit 6 forges total in a square with the bats

[craggy oyster]

it hurt me so bad cuz dev trolling us with uneven things

[green sleet]

Frfr. Why do they taunt us with things that are in 3s and 5s. Give us shit divisible by 2 😭

[craggy oyster]

i cheated a bit and got nearly symetrical 4 crus

[green sleet]

I love that shit. Very pleasing to the eyes

[vital narwhal]

it looks vaguely like an ornate chest

[craggy oyster]

i see it now. ye it will work

[cyan forge]

good shit, nice one

fixed, thx

heheh

[craggy oyster]

wth man

[green sleet]

Oh lordy, thats one helluva pipe network

[vital narwhal]

wait actually they can probably just prio converger the acid to backloop

[cyan forge]

tried, it clogs sumtimes

[vital narwhal]

and save the fluid supply unit power

oh

rip

[cyan forge]

i don't like it bein too unreliable

[craggy oyster]

hmm. try clean reset

[vital narwhal]

was that with converger only or splitter+converger combo?

[craggy oyster]

the only think could clog is the axid pumps

[green sleet]

Is it just a shitton of pipe bridges?

[vital narwhal]

lost heirlooms sounds suspiciously like sarkaz guy

surely not another 3-char patch right heehoo

[cyan forge]

hmmm i should make amethyst and kryston bottles

[foggy pasture]

i mean you could but you literally have no reason to

[cyan forge]

eh... xira liquids

and hxira

mine keep cloggin

[craggy oyster]

sound like tang tang

[nova pilot]

I think it'll look better here than the water pipe that goes nowhere

[craggy oyster]

Good call

i tried to balance out the blue and dark pipes

wait a minute

🤌

[static isle]

what do yall think of my max heto setup

[robust grove]

You actually don't have to feed the acid all the way back, you can just loop it into the close crucible

But I have a similar setup to yours

[static isle]

like between 2nd and 3rd column?

[robust grove]

I did mine between the 3rd and 4th. Let me try to find a pic.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1505951648923648171/image.png?ex=6a0d2704&is=6a0bd584&hm=2812d9878cf75db4cc05a08eeda2fd739a68d69e088e5d274bed2f5ee6b007d5&

[hoary crag]

looks good

[robust grove]

Ppl said more space could be saved if I rotate the crucible, haven't looked into it yet

Also can put the centrifuge outside the sub-pac

[strange bay]

how do i enhance battery production speed, is there a way to upgrade output speed

1 thermal bank isnt enough

[static isle]

yeah bc you use a 9th cru instead of using an expanded for the 8th

[robust grove]

I considered the expanded crucible, but it started to spaghetti and don't look nice

So here I am

Might rebuild it later cuz I have idea

[jolly shore]

send feature when aaaa

[green sleet]

Yeah... it definitely fits better without the heavy lines. I think ima just leave this be for now.

[static isle]

I mean mine look pretty nice though even with the expanded cru

[small creek]

could be less tall

[robust grove]

It's tall cuz they're refining and grinding Fe on site

Could probably offload that

[small creek]

Im doing the same thing

And im saying that it still can be shorter even so

stacking the shredders was unnecessary

and u can cut a whole row between the top crucibles and bottom crucibles

[craggy oyster]

if u dont care about space then u can just add some rows to line up everything

[static isle]

ye I usually care for horizontal space more than vertical

less horizontal space = more depot space you can use for sth else

[small creek]

hollup lemme login

[robust grove]

Holding

[static isle]

hold deez nuts

ha gottem

[robust grove]

Can I squeeze

[ancient pier]

anyone got pwm for 6k pwr using only sc wuling?

[static isle]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[ancient pier]

tried it

[craggy oyster]

bruh

what power u want

[ancient pier]

6k

[craggy oyster]

using what baterry

[ancient pier]

sc

[craggy oyster]

exactly 6000?

[ancient pier]

around that number

[static isle]

I can just fine

[robust grove]

That's just barely over the 2 bank of SC capacity

You need to tune your numbers

[small creek]

alright heres my hetonite

the gear comp is toggleable with the item control ports

[valid gazelle]

And here's my abomination

[craggy oyster]

u trolling?

there's no where to put power or smt?

[subtle finch]

linear programming is so fun

[static isle]

what page is this

is this yours?

[craggy oyster]

i used to do this using excel

wish ik coding

[valid gazelle]

[craggy oyster]

the 2 whatever on bottom right too.

[royal viper]

Chat I finally finished the current wuling factory

I think it needs a bit more design to it. But eh I'll just wait until everything is finalized in wuling

[valid gazelle]

Gj

[upper fiber]

guys is it true that global will get worse version because the diff broadcast time?

[craggy oyster]

wdym worse verion?

[royal viper]

I thought we all have the same version yes?

Just different timezones

[upper fiber]

nah, global is late by 2.5hrs

so what's the point of separating it if it isn't diff version inside

[craggy oyster]

cuz staffs schedule? and maybe chinese privileged

[nova pilot]

Well done! Here's your reward

[ruby sorrel]

fancy calculator hype

[royal viper]

I love my wife

[strange bay]

is a row of 2 speed picking and 2 planting unit sufficient for farming plants

simple plants like buckflower

[solid quiver]

1 seed picking is enough

1 seed picking 1 planting for wuling plants

[robust grove]

Time needed to add captions?

Like, I understand Chinese, but I'm the minority here.

[solid quiver]

maybe cuz 00:00 is pretty late

2.5 hour delay is for required by law

[upper fiber]

hope it is just some bs stuff

[robust grove]

Oh wtf, it's at midnight.

[upper fiber]

not affecting the game version

[solid quiver]

and 00:00 is accessible for all servers

[robust grove]

This Friday-Saturday I guess

[upper fiber]

like by the time that broadcast on..... people already summarized stuff from jp cn broadcast already

[solid quiver]

like AM9:00 PM12:00 pretty accessible for worldwide

[robust grove]

They don't dub over the broadcast right?

[solid quiver]

we enjoy watching it and sharing the thriller

[solid quiver]

sub

only Chinese staffs

[robust grove]

Non issue for me I guess

[upper fiber]

if we get same stuff, yeah, np
only the global view will get hit because less people watching it

[robust grove]

Idk if it's gonna be more or less tbh, cuz that time is better for western viewers

[solid quiver]

no one would have trouble if they understand english

[meager stream]

.surtr

[solid quiver]

Chinese games tend to give better treatment to cn players

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1330097664011800649/image0-1.png

[upper fiber]

i'm expecting hikarin or haruna will summarize the stuff for 1.3 when cn broadcast done

[solid quiver]

I think they would probably add more things to cn live

[solid quiver]

others have would done before them

and do they even know chinese?

[robust grove]

Not sure if there's anything too much to learn from the streams until the stuff actually releases.

Oh look purification node, that sounds useful

1 effluent ever 5 second

[upper fiber]

yeah, but they're better on summarizing thing

[sterile stratus]

oh shoot my battery is probably clogged by now

[upper fiber]

like asking bubble for the translation

[solid quiver]

I wish I knew that endfieldian language

[robust grove]

Oh you're fighting nefarith btw

Why tf are you spoiling your own plot

[upper fiber]

you just need to lower your expectation for anything on endfield....

[sterile stratus]

what

[robust grove]

It's hard to live up the arknights expectations

[void owl]

4 copum refinesreis only need 2/s water right?

[upper fiber]

2 pumps

[worn rampart]

2 pumps is fine with the single conduit

[tacit quarry]

1 pump provide 1 water/s
1 machine use 1 water/2s = 0.5/s
1 pipe can handle 2 water/s
1 pipe can handle 2 pump
1 pipe can provide water for 4 machine

[void owl]

what to do with all my heavy xir? i am producing too much

[tacit quarry]

sell them to camp

[void owl]

camp doesnt want it anymore

i litealy empted camp using heavy xir

[royal viper]

Wife

[solid quiver]

fill in bottle

[meager stream]

.bestgirl

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-11278654791925482718

[vernal fjord]

Honestly the water treatment thing would be insanely op if THEY JUST LET US TRANSPORT MORE THEN 1 L IN A PIPE

[shut hearth]

Woah does this also account for test area?

[delicate edge]

What's the effecient way of plot and sprinkle for farming?

[craggy oyster]

This update literally render it useless if u willing to put some effort into making a conduit line to the new map

[delicate edge]

How to sprinkle more than two plots at once?

[craggy oyster]

u cant

[delicate edge]

So two plots each sprinkler?

[vale topaz]

hope can get something new for test area purification.

[vernal fjord]

thats what im talking about, the water treatment on the new map could process way more sewage, it has the speed for it, issue is our pipes being too fucking slow in putting the sweage in

like if our pipes were faster we could make the xircon production ten times faster

[robust grove]

No? We're not limited by pipe throughput

If anything, it's due to the janky raw resource ratio

[craggy oyster]

we limit by the 1:30 ratio tho. pipe speed is not the problem

[frail briar]

The filter is that good?

[robust grove]

If you mean the new node, right now it's not great. 30 sewage for 1 effluent.

Saves power cuz you don't need to remove it tho

[frail briar]

I had to remove my entire rice field just for installing the pipes

[vernal fjord]

I have max possible sewage input into the water treatment and its giving me 1/10 s xircon outpout, the water treatment plants could be cleaning much more sweage if i could just pump it into it in time

[robust grove]

And what does that little extra effluent output gonna do?

You can't sustain pumping 3 full pipes in the current patch nor can you use the effluent for much because we don't have enough ferrium/originium for batteries anyways.

Also like. 30 sewage, 3 inputs, 2/s per input.

Should be 5 second?

[craggy oyster]

we only have 8 from cup and 1 from full heto line, and we use 2 for batteries, 1 for 2nd heavy xir. we left with 6/2s sewage = 3/s sewage, that's only 1.5 pipes..

and there're 3 node. we are not even use full pipes yet

[daring rapids]

the third node is basically free

[robust grove]

I can sustain 3 full pipes for like, a day.
Cuz I have sewage bottles storer up from earlier patches.

[tacit quarry]

do we have any shorter route for delivery?

[robust grove]

The one you have looks good enough tbh

Snaking one through barren outskirts could be shorter but not worth the effort imo

[solid quiver]

that's most efficient

[craggy oyster]

i personally go for this cuz there's another shipping spot up north near the alluvium. save a bunch of facilities on that

[solid quiver]

saves more facility and power

[robust grove]

Does no one do the zip over the blight sea anymore?

[solid quiver]

you just go through your gatherable's ziplines

[craggy oyster]

ye i dont trust unreachable ziplines anymore. just one update and it might stuck there forever

[robust grove]

I have a power line in V4 that's just stuck there cuz I forgot to put a zip down

[south ferry]

Same but my zip itself is stuck

[void owl]

anyone have a minimal 2x heavy xir bp?

[craggy oyster]

hmm

can make one rn

[void owl]

cheers if asia

[robust grove]

Hmm, isn't is easier if you make like, 1 hXi on the Xr production area then setup a separate hXi line on the side?

Cuz Xr production gives you 4 inert effluent that can be centrifuged into 1 effluent for hXi

[solid quiver]

wouldn't it be more minimal if you just shorten the belts and pipes?

[void owl]

for me i do 60/min SC, 60/min hXI then pull the swage from the bats + purify both effulents to power another 60/s bat

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-meme-gif-8313670822268448362

[solid quiver]

working on pipes will have better results than getting new blueprint

[sterile stratus]

3 swage/s=6 xircon eff/min for pur node?

[robust grove]

Ppl need to separate their stuff up more for wuling. It's hard to do centralized manufacturing when you have to weave pipes and belts through different byproducts.

[sterile stratus]

"normal people" u mean

[robust grove]

Looks right, you should have a bit more sewage than that tho

[sterile stratus]

some abnormal ppl might do everything in wuling city

[robust grove]

I mean, I've done that before 1.2

Now days we need acid and hetonite so that's harder to do.

[sterile stratus]

yeah but i still want some freedom for the facility limit

[robust grove]

Also we have double the forges

The days where you have a smidge amount of xiranite production is pain

[sterile stratus]

lol

30 eff/s... ig i still need another cruc...

can't live with 6 eff/s from the st*pid node

[shut hearth]

I did a 2/s conduit for acid from test to main aic, but i wanna keep changing the routing for everything cuz i already have a conduit route from marker stone too lmao

[sterile stratus]

lol

[void owl]

how do i waste xirinite?

[sterile stratus]

i guess i should bottle the eff from the node and use the expanded cruc for the forge instead...

[sterile stratus]

do you do scw

[robust grove]

Just bottle the stuff from node. It's so little

[craggy oyster]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: [x2 H.xir]EFO016029oo4O0708O83e Copy it and use it in the game.

[sterile stratus]

get the inert there and purify it

[void owl]

sce bats? 120 min

[unreal laurel]

is 157k enough oroberyl

[ruby sorrel]

I need a test account or sth.... I don't wanna fiddle with my factory to have room for all this pipemess I'm planning

[void owl]

its beeing pass through 50 tanks

[craggy oyster]

I trust that u'll know what input output of each machine ahahah

[unreal laurel]

you can run like 13.5scw+12hxira and get like 15left

[craggy oyster]

just a quick work

[shut hearth]

No, thats not enough to guarantee p5 limited character

[unreal laurel]

back to saving

[shut hearth]

Save until eos

[unreal laurel]

eos?

[robust grove]

Waiting for kalsit

[shut hearth]

End of service

[sterile stratus]

then use the inert from that

[sterile stratus]

you mean eos

[unreal laurel]

....

[shut hearth]

See this guy gets it

[robust grove]

Woe, priestess upon thee

[void owl]

that is what powring the other bat factory

[void owl]

@sterile stratus

[sterile stratus]

oh ok

fair enough

[craggy oyster]

60/min h.xir

did i miss another AIC event or smt

[coral orchid]

Wth is this purple liquid?

[sterile stratus]

ngl ts my first time haven't done pipe stuff much outside aic

[coral orchid]

Did we get new purple liquid?

[void owl]

thts sweage

[craggy oyster]

it's just weird color setting

[coral orchid]

Arent sewage black?

How it can be purple

[craggy oyster]

i mean the sewage pools on test area is red-ish

[ruby sorrel]

it's always been this oily looking purple

just the icon is black

[coral orchid]

Really? I thought it is black

[ruby sorrel]

how cursed would it be if I fed the extra SCW line with the main SCW puri output?

[daring rapids]

I mean it looks pretty dark

[coral orchid]

Why could the color different?

[craggy oyster]

idk u tell me. that look pretty red to me

[coral orchid]

[robust grove]

When you think about it, a deep blue/purple is accurate cuz sewage is the byproduct of copper extraction

[coral orchid]

Crazy color missed

[ruby sorrel]

but xircon

[coral orchid]

But the one that I confused
If it is copper, why couldn't we make copper from powder

[dawn crow]

so one ferrium powder output can supply 2 hetonite crucible (with 2 blood pipe each)?

[robust grove]

Copper from powder?

[coral orchid]

Arent copper and copper powder is reversible each other in this real life?

[solid quiver]

in this real life?

[solid quiver]

30/min hetonite needs 30/min ferrium powder

so yeah ig

[dawn crow]

bro idk the number for hetonite production

rn im learning through purely building numbers

[robust grove]

I mean, there's gonna be losses in real life. Not gonna try to simulate that in the game lol.

[solid quiver]

you can check the stats

[dawn crow]

i can't it's unbuilt.

[craggy oyster]

U check the formular and cal it

[void owl]

what to do with hetonite?

[craggy oyster]

it not really that complicated

[paper hatch]

how many forge of the sky will it take to produce the most efficient orange gear for the new sets?

[solid quiver]

12 if you aren't planning to make H xira or WSC

[paper hatch]

damn

[void owl]

just use all lol

10 normal 2 heavy

[paper hatch]

i havent even updated my old wuling factory yet, waiting to max the newer sub pac area first so i can finalize which product to mass produce

[robust grove]

I convert my hetonite into parts by default.

Just slap a fitting unit at the end.

[exotic aurora]

how many sc batteries are you guys making per min?

[paper hatch]

might have to do this later..

[solid quiver]

12-14.75

wuling right

[exotic aurora]

yeah, i just realized my inert xircon effluent can be recycled to make more xircon. so i'm seeing if it's possible to make more batteries

[sterile stratus]

amethyst bottle is goated bro

[robust grove]

My opinion is that it's simpler to just use the recycled materials for hXi

[solid quiver]

I'd use white bottles

[chrome shell]

is this the right way to send 25/30 dense origo into a packaging unit if they're from metastorage?

[solid quiver]

but I'm too lazy for manuals

[sterile stratus]

just use filling units

[sonic summit]

i take cryston instead

[robust grove]

I'm meta transferring steel bottles rn lmao

[craggy oyster]

Yeah we need 5-10k manual tranfer method

[robust grove]

Cuz I'm maxed out on amethyst bottle

[sterile stratus]

the main reason why i'm using is because my heavy xir is almost clogged

[craggy oyster]

i take every bottles

[sterile stratus]

so... gotta eat it

[robust grove]

I have so much amethyst bottle it's gonna be an issue when I unbottle my sewage stockpile cuz it's gonna max out.

[sonic summit]

just sell them

[robust grove]

I've been trying to

[void owl]

NGl, the factory has really started to grow on me

[sonic summit]

then dont sell hcv and use that to power wuling instead you will still sell about 5k a day and rest of them for transer

[solid quiver]

holy sheeeet

I'm rich

[robust grove]

I mean, honestly? That's what I did when I first arrive in wuling
Cuz I need the xiranite elsewhere

[sterile stratus]

what the holy 😭

tcreds god bless u

[sonic summit]

i am still do it only transfer once a week

[robust grove]

Like, I legit making HCV in wuling to save the xiranite for gear

[void owl]

i'm contplating making hetonite components cause i have no use for the parts

[sonic summit]

bruv its input not output she doing fine

[solid quiver]

I begged for t credits for months

[pulsar cypress]

Oh true.. XD

[sterile stratus]

you need tcreds that bad?

[sonic summit]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1477684761387339836/1506026006559854804/pricepeaks-bread5.jpg?ex=6a0cc384&is=6a0b7204&hm=5f7cd344392c4d28ca2eb67038f3b30331eeb9d2bf899c371bca545df9cb7745&

[sterile stratus]

oh so the new thingy is 5k

[atomic maple]

can 12 battery/min keep up with outpost 1?

[meager stream]

.dump

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[robust grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463570514357260381/1500517371763490898/image.png?ex=6a0d2873&is=6a0bd6f3&hm=61ce7e1801c4323c8e3b1bb3affca30c07db1d17d97ea2d740bbaa97024a4c64&

[meager stream]

.dump2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1470446297252237312/Screenshot_20260209_185413_YouTube.png?ex=698b5354&is=698a01d4&hm=95efebca121166dbd0ef35df8060f4cb190eb4f8cf9a4449b54b138b6f928aa4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=323&height=233

[void owl]

.pump

man no pump.png?

[shut hearth]

We need a pump3 with tangtang in rags buying it

[meager stream]

.tangtang

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468993592369352764/TangtangLeak.jpg?ex=69860a65&is=6984b8e5&hm=7c816cf47d0101a3ed8ecb738238d99a8305443de743054c599138f96032c517

[robust grove]

I left TangTang in charge of my battery assembly, what could go wrong

[meager stream]

.stop2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[void owl]

.stop

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/shu-arknights-sui-gif-7073468061133619170

[meager stream]

.whenfield

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/740254792118435951/1408225926608847021/U87UESVG5L3GDTYM6.jpg

[sonic summit]

wtf it became a good damn wall????

[craggy oyster]

Ye

many got f by that

once u move it say bye bye to ur pipes

[meager stream]

if it works dont touch it xD

[daring rapids]

I never touch that wall thanks god

[sonic summit]

fiuh i managed to salvage the situation

[hoary crag]

lmao

who would win

factory sweats with 4 patches worth of experience

or

one dumb wall

[daring rapids]

A wall

[sonic summit]

THANK good i can interact through wall

[undone current]

i hate dat wall

[nova pilot]

Be a chad and put the purification inside the wall

[hoary crag]

they actually built the wall 😭

[daring rapids]

Their new building also blocked my ziplines

Fun

[keen river]

You can just jump inside tbh

[sonic summit]

NVM I CAN FIX IT

[solid quiver]

consume around 400k weekly

[sonic summit]

it still let the pipe out just not in so i just use pipespliter to get pipe out then reverse flow

[undone current]

should've bring heto line to main aic

[sterile stratus]

what are you even doing

[sonic summit]

lvling all unit ? mee to

[sterile stratus]

oh fair enough

[fierce anchor]

Is there any easy way to connect those two relay towers?

[tame harbor]

You can put a relay tower and move the AIC nearer to the edge the n teleport to it

As long as the distance is close enough, the connection won't break

[fierce anchor]

I can move the AIC itself?

[tame harbor]

Yup

In top down mode just press and hold\

[keen river]

You can even select it with X mode and move as any other building

Or it has a move button in its gui

[craggy oyster]

move AIC to the very left sice of the base. Go to the right relay, hit connect and tele to base, u should be able to keep the connection

[fierce anchor]

Thanks :D

Did not expect to be able to move that

[keen river]

Its still quite far but should be in range

[solid quiver]

lvling up laeva skill

[fierce anchor]

75m distance is what I got, but it worked, thanks

[solid quiver]

my teams' skills all ain't that high

not meeted requirements

[fierce anchor]

I find it funny that a zipline cancels the connection but teleporting is fine lmao

[keen river]

No clue why zipline cancels it

The vertical prebuild zjplines dont cancel either

[sterile stratus]

lol

bro want m3 everything

[red shoal]

devs want us to walk

but gave us stuck teleport thing

[lone shore]

am i doing something wrong here ? my originumb yield is only 440

but i already have all sources rig including the new one

[shut hearth]

Click on each ore deposit on map and see the list and make sure they all have miners on em again

I would assume it's not a power issue cuz then the theoretical yield would be higher

And im also assuming u are wuling lvl 15

Or whatever it is that raises ur yield... i think it was 13 or smthn?

[delicate edge]

What to do with 80k Dense Orig Powder? Let them sit in inventory for future or turn them to batter now?

[shut hearth]

Batteries and xiranite gear

[lone shore]

every single one is powered

every single one is rigged

including the new area the test area

[shut hearth]

What the

[magic relic]

It's rigged

[shut hearth]

Literally

[lone shore]

?

[shut hearth]

Are u using upgraded miners?

[lone shore]

tier 2

[shut hearth]

Man that's weird

[lone shore]

do i need hydromining for them

[delicate edge]

Perhaps you didn't mine the ones in the cave?

[lone shore]

where ?

[delicate edge]

It's kinda hidden

[shut hearth]

I have no clue why ur miners arent mining enough

[delicate edge]

Some where below the igneosite

[round trail]

Hulu cave?

[shut hearth]

It's south of main wuling city region

[lone shore]

where ?

[shut hearth]

Yep, in the clouds

[delicate edge]

There in the fog of war

[lone shore]

alr ill go towards it

[lone shore]

oh down there i was doing to the other fog

[spring glacier]

Let's go Gambling>:3

[robust grove]

[lone shore]

wait how do i open this area

[crystal solstice]

im wondering why:

xi often goes below 300
heavy xi often goes between 11 and 12
xircon goes below 60
however they won't affect sc battery

im sure im connected enough pipe and belt, could someone explain to me why?

[tacit flax]

punch the rock

[sonic summit]

guys this is 5 /min right ?

[lone shore]

oh you can break it

[sonic summit]

nah it just disappears like illusions

[lone shore]

am i still missing some or no ?

[tacit flax]

no

[sonic summit]

nope it maxed 540

[lone shore]

alr thank you, i just noticed its not maxxed because i maxmized my forge of sky and thats when i fel something is wrong in my originum yield

so this whole time this area is left untouched

[pulsar cypress]

First thing to do when getting new map..
Wipe clean all the fog.. °-°)b

[lone shore]

yeah idk for some reason endfield exploration doesnt excited me or i should skip valley 4 and go to wulling

[scenic mesa]

What you guys think: they should give us more mineral or more outpost, or complely new region new ore in the next patch?

[tacit flax]

ofc new outpost and maxed some materials. some ores arent maxed out yet, should be some ores are maxed in certain areas

[somber wolf]

I tend to have a lot of free space, often lack of inputs. Any general advice to avoid these bottlenecks?

[pulsar cypress]

Kinda same. Wiping fog just to check if there's nodes in there.
Me also haven't touch the loots in map exploration.

[scenic mesa]

You can always find a interactive map on google and check out all the thing you missed

[lone shore]

I always do that but just in general

probably because rewards arent worth it

[sonic summit]

can you just give 2d image? cant see what wrong with it

[lone shore]

i tried doing exploration at valley 4 the hub and this whole time i just gained 1k originum like what all this effort for that

[scenic mesa]

Yea i still have shit ton of chest in the map

Too lazy for that

[lone shore]

its crazy that i dont usually do this

wuthering waves i have all maps at 100 percent

zzz at 100

genshin too

[scenic mesa]

I sign of burn out maybe?

[lone shore]

no just did wuthering waves last week

probably about to do more once denia drop a new map or edge runners but could be burn out ?

ive been playing gacha games for 3 years now almost

yeah idk it could be burn out

[scenic mesa]

I dont know how people can play more than 1 gacha game

So exhausting 😭

[somber wolf]

ehhh...how do I zoom out on the top view lol

[ruby sorrel]

crazy if you're already 100% 3 other games ofc a 4th one is most likely going to be uninterested in 100%ing

[sonic summit]

scroll wheel and just sc each unloader

my gacha game is 3

[tacit quarry]

do longer pipe delay liquid flow?

[solid quiver]

particularly yes

[lone shore]

Yeah dunno, probably because i dont like endfield combat since i dont feel the sense of combos like its repeated action maybe

[solid quiver]

only for few round of water

[ruby sorrel]

it takes time yes, but it's not like everything doesn't run steady state anyways

[scenic mesa]

So wuwa combat is cooler ya? I heard lot of people give good review about it

[lone shore]

i wont jump to that conclusion

every person has a preference

[sonic summit]

if it too full just do stash unloader and use protocol stash in exchange of stash loader

[cunning obsidian]

make sand leaf locally and deliver it by belts directly

[sonic summit]

i dont play wuwa

[scenic mesa]

[sonic summit]

[cunning obsidian]

v4 is very close to being depot port limited

[scenic mesa]

Enfield combat is cool enough for me, since im bored with genshin

[cunning obsidian]

there is no space for sand leaf of all things

[solid quiver]

I uninstalled endfield

[ruby sorrel]

I could never get into wuwa combat cus you can't see anything through the glowing effects on everything

[sonic summit]

endfield is my first 3d gacha game

[somber wolf]

ah the reason for that is I once made too many shredders that I ran out of sandleaf to plant lol. To avoid that I ended up dedicating a sub-pac just for sandleaf farming, for every seed > 2 planter, 1 will be shredded. Takes away lots of the efficiency ngl but that was my stopgap failsafe

on 2nd thoughts I could probs incorporate a protocol stash somewhere in that sandleaf setup

[cunning obsidian]

that indicated your sandleaf was setup wrong

stashes are also bad but not as bas wasting depot space

[scenic mesa]

Stick to it my brother and dont even think about trying hoyocrab stuff

[sonic summit]

OH I never play hoyo game rn only endfield, nikke and fgo

[ruby sorrel]

it's nice to unload sandleaf plant sometimes though

[cunning obsidian]

fucks his guns

[somber wolf]

this is my general setup for sandleaf. Any suggestions on improvement?

[cunning obsidian]

gfl here

[lone shore]

the only hoyogame i play would be ZZZ since it seems to be the most generous one

[sonic summit]

i always make my sandleaf localy tbh

[cunning obsidian]

well to start you three belts from the shredding unit

1 sandleaf becomes 3 powder

[scenic mesa]

Wasted 2 sandleaf powder

[ruby sorrel]

you waste too many unloaders if you unload sandleaf

[scenic mesa]

Damn that look clean af

[sonic summit]

its half of my 12 /min hcv in oripark

[scenic mesa]

🙏

My base is shit compare to your but as long as it on maximum efficency, im just gonna let it be

[cunning obsidian]

anyways I reccomend the seed unit go directly between the planters

facing the opposite way

then just loop them together

[somber wolf]

ngl for some reason this whole time I was under the impression that however many outputs just speeds up the belt

[cunning obsidian]

nope

belts are capped

pipes will be too when you get them

[scenic mesa]

Dont worry, everybody have their goof time, thats why i always testing before actually do it

[remote parcel]

i currently have max pipeline capacity at 96 in marker stone, i tried to remove 2 pipe in the aic area to put them outside but i cant seem to do and is still said capacity exceeded, some i cant removed the pipe with the same reason

[cunning obsidian]

speaking of pipes

anyone cook up a way to get from stockade to test without going through wuling?

[hoary crag]

pipe and facility capacity is shared for the whole area, not just the aic

tho it's more commonly hit in wuling city

512 facilities

and 128 pipe logistics

[cunning obsidian]

just hit both

[hoary crag]

counting those both in and out of core aic area

[cunning obsidian]

its way too low tbh

[silent violet]

shredder needs 3 outputs otherwise it will be clogged

[prisma halo]

I think I did a pretty good job do far. I'll go do events now

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. 512 too low..
Cant upgrade my grand cemetery.. T^T)

[hardy tangle]

but generally u want to use the shredder on to the actual points you gonna use them, otherwise you just wasting it, in terms of needed farms vs how much you get from each

[pulsar cypress]

Move the buck plant set one block above.
Add one more output belt for the buck shredder to the main pac.

[prisma halo]

Righty O I'll do that

[hoary crag]

imagine

[pulsar cypress]

1 shredder make 2 buck powder..

[prisma halo]

Oh

I didn't know

Aight

[remote parcel]

i see, but the marker stone area is still 96 but even tho i remove 2 and more pipe in the aic area i still cant put them outside since is still said pipeline capacity exceeded?

[pulsar cypress]

Still have a wide empty lot.. T^T)
Plus the other part of the area..

[hoary crag]

when I said whole area, I meant the entirety of marker stone

[scenic mesa]

Btw it just early in the game so dont overengineer too much, you just gonna get area, bus upgrade then you need to rebuild stuff again

[prisma halo]

I see I see

God I need more amethyst

[hoary crag]

also entire pipe sections count as one pipe

[hardy tangle]

quarry, if you havent gone there or unlocked it

[hoary crag]

imagine the abhorrent torture it'd be if the pipe limit were to actually count individual pipe tiles

[pulsar cypress]

....

[prisma halo]

Top of the hub?

[hardy tangle]

SE of hub

you will get a quest to get there

[pulsar cypress]

*give up using pipe..
Too lazy to count.

[hardy tangle]

is another zone

[prisma halo]

This area?

[hardy tangle]

that is not SE

[prisma halo]

Oh wait bottom right

MB mb

I didn't know what you meant by SE

Forgot it means South east

[hardy tangle]

[upper fiber]

you can actually ignore building factory till wuling.... just need to make bomb