aic-factory

[valid gazelle]

Why can't fertilizer be automated

[hoary crag]

just give the man his blueprints 😭

[ruby sorrel]

I could just delete my farm but I'm using it out of spite

[valid gazelle]

All yours chief

I.. want to keep mine

That empty patch of land is just.. empty when is left empty

[solid quiver]

why we don't have automated bots

[valid gazelle]

Ikr

[solid quiver]

delivery bots that's always broken

[hoary crag]

for me I'm currently farming yazhen cuz I'm switching meds from jincao to yazhen

[valid gazelle]

Oh right..

[ruby sorrel]

I'm farming half rice half ginseng

no clue why

[valid gazelle]

FULL GINSENG

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-fuiyoh-gif-21425901

[tough berry]

i feel drained rolls lazyly

min max power and mats just need to manual transfer some cube and ferium powder weekly for heto 6 farm

[ruby sorrel]

damn how am I wasting so much power at 5590

[tough berry]

maybe zipline my zipline got button

[ruby sorrel]

button what 😭

[tough berry]

i want to transfer the free eff from sewage from main to stone but i got no more energy to travel lel

means i can on and off my zipline

i just stick my free eff and collect it daily lel

to main aic

[ruby sorrel]

true I have..... probably 80+ zips now

[tough berry]

thats 400 power

so your total power only is 5190

[winged dirge]

Is this Ok? (Mostly talking about the Converger from the Right Grinding Unit) or does it risk a delay in Products Delivery?

[steel peak]

what did you guys do for this? at the test area water treatment

[valid gazelle]

It will get delayed

[meager stream]

skip

[valid gazelle]

Reuse

[winged dirge]

Alright thanks for answering

[valid gazelle]

Because the grinder and the unloader (given they work at 100%) output 30 items per minute (which is the max capacity of the conveyor belt) one must give way to the other

[keen badge]

I'm assuming that line from the right is bringing in the xircon?
It'll get mixed with the denses OM dust cube thingy, output would be inconsistent
It should have a separate conveyor
One other thing, I'd move it to the opposite corner maybe (that way you can use the other side of these already deployed depot buses for something else)

[daring rapids]

RAAH

I HAVE MORE CAP NOW

[tough berry]

piped it back to main aic was using it at mt old potion build but forgot i dont have it wired at sub pac stone so cant use it i just stay it main bade doing nothing

[valid gazelle]

Ye but do you have more plots ? Preferably 20 ?

[daring rapids]

who needs 20 anymore

[steel peak]

you walked it all the way to the aic?

[daring rapids]

event is almost over

[meager stream]

.stop2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[valid gazelle]

[tough berry]

btw so much pipe left before i can reach 96 lel

[vale topaz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1tgac4n/cn_community_troll_base_building_extravagant/ aic art or 0 sanity

[valid gazelle]

My facility count is now 490 som.

[jovial breach]

logging in really does fuck your factory

[tough berry]

dang khans

give me your free 4 extra originium

[ruby sorrel]

0facility

[jovial breach]

i swear there's something hapenning while im offline

[grave veldt]

(Me draining his pipes in background)

[winged dirge]

Alright, does this look Good enough? Or is there something i can improve?

[jovial breach]

i would use 1 sandleaf for 3 grinders and then unload a belt of sandleaf powder for the 4th grinder

but otherwise your build looks good enough

[hoary crag]

^

ideal as well if you have excess sandleaf powder from xiranite lines

[hasty falcon]

Would this be the right channel to ask about Conduit placements for optimal and aesthetically pleasing piping across the map?

[jovial breach]

yes uh there's @marble yarrow who does that kind of stuff

🛐 teach them sensei

[robust grove]

All of us have our own sectors of the tism.

[late imp]

what do i do for the bottom row now?

i have the 60 xircon up already

i want the bottom row just for the heavy xiranite

[valid gazelle]

start the machine and bring her to life

[hoary crag]

isn't hikarin the one to go to when it comes to ordered relay/conduit placement?

[jovial breach]

yes ping hikarin sensei too

[hoary crag]

lmao

[jovial breach]

[hoary crag]

I've already pinged him way too many times today already

you do it

[ruby sorrel]

so aesthetic

[cedar bolt]

What

[jovial breach]

@subtle finch forgive me sensei

[hoary crag]

tbf that does look really good

[late imp]

a little help....

[jovial breach]

well uh you dont need 4 crucible for 1 heavy xiranite, just 1

[late imp]

thats it?

[shut hearth]

LMAO

[hasty falcon]

You can get the angles that wide??

[shut hearth]

i was gonna make a joke about piss but the phrase is blocked

[valid gazelle]

@ruby sorrel yep.. that checks out.. 35 extra power to spare

[shut hearth]

how do they even have the capacity for this

[winged dirge]

Can i do a 100% Yielding Xircon Factory using a single Expanded Reactor, or do i need 2 (cuz i need 2 Xircon Efluent in 2 seconds, and it crafts 1 per 2 seconds) ?

[jovial breach]

lemme find my setup for 2nd heavy xiranite prod

[valid gazelle]

i feel like if i start a fitting unit my factory would implode

[ruby sorrel]

pipes are cheap very high cap

[austere lodge]

Making a xircon loop its own sewage in an expanded crucible

How much sewage from cuprium do I need to merge with that loop

[shut hearth]

what is the pipe cap for marker stone? cuz that was annoying tf outta me

[austere lodge]

Because genuinely it's not self-sustainable

[jovial breach]

@late imp i havent tested this not sure if it works tho, add water and sewage

[valid gazelle]

if its a single SIRcon

1

if its a double SIRcon, 2

[ruby sorrel]

yeah just add source of water/sewage

[ruby sorrel]

haven't actually tested but are you sure it was pipe and not pipe logistic

[undone current]

7 xircon setup?

[shut hearth]

it was both for me lmao

[ruby sorrel]

I think logistic was like 64 which tbh all wuling only gets 128

[jovial breach]

2nd heavy forge

[hasty falcon]

I've been trying to make my piping look good on the map. This is what I have so far:

[ruby sorrel]

are you guys piping acid out of test smh

[hasty falcon]

Yes

[undone current]

yes

[jovial breach]

insane peoeple

[winged dirge]

Why would you Pipe Acid from another Region 😭

[hasty falcon]

Getting the piping looking right requires a loss of sanity, indeed

Wuling has no acid

[undone current]

much better than manifold turbo from marker stone to wuling

[jovial breach]

just make stuff in marker

[winged dirge]

Why would you need Acid in the Wuling Area or Quingbo Stockade Area? Isn't there enough space in the Market Area to build everything that needs Acid?

[ruby sorrel]

found the actual pipe post

peak piping right there

[undone current]

consolidate sewage producer on wuling as its shortest path into purification node

[final sierra]

or you can do it with pipes: 😁😁😁

#aic-factory message

[final sierra]

oh already mentioned 🤣

[winged dirge]

Ah, yall trying to Maximize the Gains, i see the Vision, alr. Seweage was useless up until now, now yall want that Extra Xircon Effluent huh

[undone current]

well, its also cheaper into power cost

[jovial breach]

i wonder if it would be even more peak if you remove the bridges using reverse flow trick

[valid gazelle]

1. First crucible takes in sewage to create Effluent and Inert and feed that Effluent into the 2nd crucible
2. The 2nd crucible can't create Effluent yet, but the Effluent provided by the 1st crucible reacts with ferrium dust to create SIRcon and 1 sewage

Now I might think you think that this isn't sustainable because you need 2 effluent to create 1 SIRcon and here's the cool thing

3. The sewage created int SIRcon reaction helps create Effluent and Inert in the 2nd Crucible (1 Effluent) and at the same time, the 1st Crucible is still feeding the 2nd Crucible with 1 Effluent. So the ratio is correct.

You need 2 sewage to create 2 Effluent to create 1 SIRcon, the thing is, you only need to supply 1 sewage into the 1st crucibel because the 2nd sewage is being generated from the previous SIRcon reaction
I tried to make it as simple as possible

[winged dirge]

Probably very expensive on Protocol Space though. those 50 Ziplines already taking 150 Space.

[undone current]

not really if u using environment center route

[hoary crag]

also now to think of it

[winged dirge]

What is that?

[hoary crag]

how are some of ya'll always here

[final sierra]

i should try 🤩

[hasty falcon]

That is beautiful. How did you get the conduit pipes on that third last image?

[hoary crag]

I'm just here rn cuz I've got absolutely nothing to do at work

[undone current]

wfh

[valid gazelle]

ive just landed a position in a new company, starting next Monday so i have a week off

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-movie-celebration-celebrate-crying-gif-7727107777105242447

sounds like a pot 5 reconvener to me

[subtle finch]

i cant believe hg really intends us to do this

[ruby sorrel]

yeah they're trolling so hard with this update

the ratios are all broken and ugly

[undone current]

tho as always, those pipes beautiful

[jovial breach]

damn slacking off at work

[hoary crag]

no I swear I have nothing to do 😭

[valid gazelle]

[hoary crag]

I already cleared all my tickets for today like

2 hours ago

[final sierra]

over the river?

1. place pipe start on one side
2. go around
3. place pipe end (revert if needed)

to high place?

1. start from higher position
2. end in lover (revert if needed)

[hasty falcon]

This one:

[hoary crag]

wait how did you manage the connection from monitoring to test area

[late imp]

i finally did it 2 heavy xiranite up and running

[ruby sorrel]

teleport or zip tech

[hoary crag]

doesn't it break off if you go to the tp point?

[final sierra]

oh, zipline tech

[ruby sorrel]

if you get it close enough to test it's ~217m

[solid quiver]

should be bug abuse

[cyan gorge]

did you just bring it from the not-unlimited pool in test area to the [any-Wuling] AIC?????? or vice versa?

[ruby sorrel]

I did mine without zip

[hasty falcon]

What's the zipline tech? I always seem to drop the pipe when I latch on to the zipline

[final sierra]

video instruction

[winged dirge]

I am so lacking creativity for the Bus Depot ngl. In all my Outposts i just did 2 L Shapes and called it a day

[ruby sorrel]

no mkv on discord still

[cyan gorge]

mess around with the pipe and this happened

[final sierra]

text instructions

[winged dirge]

Lol, underground Pipes. Nice

[ruby sorrel]

what do you use to stay off ground?

[cyan gorge]

what actually happened with all the conduit maybe xD

[undone current]

seed planter

[subtle finch]

i also made a video of that

[shut hearth]

Can i see ur full pipe route?

[pastel orbit]

obvioslu there is not only pipe limit, but also pipe logistic limit...

[final sierra]

i tried to make video <100mb and ended with not in app auto playable video 🥲

[ruby sorrel]

I think if it was mp4 it would embed

[subtle finch]

nice i didnt know dying counts too, i get myself stuck using seeder instead

[pastel orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/super-creek-super-creek-uma-uma-musume-gif-13199215842452001544

[final sierra]

oh, yea stuck also triggers that 👍

[hasty falcon]

The image is Kargo's

[subtle finch]

why didnt you use manifolds instead?

[final sierra]

wanted 4 separated pipes 😁

[cyan gorge]

so this mean you have to hover off ground for an extended of time to make the game think you "NEED" to revert back to the last place you touch grass, am I correct?

[cedar bolt]

New factory new outpost ?

[shut hearth]

I just need to be stuck

[cyan gorge]

I doubt there will be more Sub-AIC like in Valley IV, but the game did not award the maxed level Sub-AIC medal yet

[subtle finch]

touch grass i'm imagining getting teleported outside irl

[hoary crag]

lmao

[undone current]

[shut hearth]

Got stuck doomscrolling too long

[cyan gorge]

so this mean you have to hover off ground for an extended of time to make the game think you "NEED" to revert back to the last place you touch grass, am I correct?
ain't that true tho xD

[shut hearth]

Hovering off the ground (bound by a chair)

[cyan gorge]

wheelchair count?

[cyan gorge]

I mean, this is arknight, and we have lemuen 👀

[ancient charm]

when 1.3 livestream?

[tribal crescent]

never

eos

[shut hearth]

Imagining a paraplegic guy suddenly teleported onto a lawn 😭

[subtle finch]

yes 😭

[cyan gorge]

why not lemuen? 👀

[cedar bolt]

Only think is wait

[hoary crag]

there will obviously be more since wuling is somehow intended to be larger than V4, and we only have 2 outposts in wuling so far

[cyan gorge]

if they add another Sub-AIC, this medal trim quest will be update, so yeah

[ruby sorrel]

it's just I there will be II trust

[cyan gorge]

or they will just add Wuling Outpost Builder II xD

[hoary crag]

that's what the I implies

[cyan gorge]

oops, no Valley Outpost Builder II tho 😭

[keen badge]

So the Wuling outposts are not maxed yet then?

[cyan gorge]

well...

[late imp]

what do i do with then last 30 xiranite per minute?

[undone current]

aint lvl 4 supposed to be maxed, both wuling outpost still lvl3 right now

[cyan gorge]

split into 3, each for components

[late imp]

the xiranite will eventually get clogged cause theres not enough to consume them

[late imp]

but only for the first 2 consume xiranite though?

[cyan gorge]

I just wish we can use Wuling piping stuff in Valley IV, there is an eco-farm, and I don't want to manually watering everytime 😭

[late imp]

heto consume heavy

[cyan gorge]

it will not be 100% effi, but you and turn the 3rd to heavy tho 👀

[cyan gorge]

if only piping is allow in Valley IV

[austere lodge]

Wait should I allocate 2 forges for heavy xira

[late imp]

already used up all forge

[pulsar willow]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[late imp]

wish we can have more plot allowed

[cyan gorge]

THIS too

[cyan gorge]

market manipulation in nutshell

[ruby warren]

I want to make many hetonite components, which bp do I use?

[cyan gorge]

hetonite components is expensive to use tho, just create enough for crafting, and do artifiting with lower gear (still yellow tho)

[late imp]

u only need to make hetonite comp for zhuang fangyi

thats kinda it for now

[undone current]

some can only used cuprium/heto comp gear

[late imp]

use cup or xira comp for cheaper

[ruby warren]

kyo's bp made too much battery

[late imp]

yeah for selling

[ruby warren]

was wondering if I can make more components instead

[cyan gorge]

u can scrap 1 out tho

it's the one bellow Xiranite Component, delete that one, then it's cool

but if you use DIGE, deleting it won't solve your "too much" problem tho 👀

[ruby sorrel]

just put more thermal banks 🔥

[cyan gorge]

when you start implement DIGE, you will need lots of power bank tho xD

[ruby sorrel]

nah I mean too much battery just burn them all

[cyan gorge]

I can't burn fast enough, no more space in my factory xD

[cyan gorge]

cuz I use a combination of multiple BP + modify it to make everything fit tightly, even I have only space left for 2 thermal banks

[daring rapids]

iirc kyo's bp has a quirk

if xircon is clogged, you'll start accumulating ferrium dust

[cyan gorge]

kyo's have xicron problem?? I always don't have enough xicron when using kyo's BP tho

[late imp]

how do i slow down the material consumption for component?

[cyan gorge]

PWM let's goooo xD

[daring rapids]

no I mean if the battery/xircon production is capped

[solid quiver]

spliy

[late imp]

anyone have a belt layout for delay?

[solid quiver]

split

use splitter

[cyan gorge]

how I can hash the rate from 30/min to 5/min tho xD?

I only need 5/min

[solid quiver]

10:10:10 > 5:5

split into 3 and into 2

be surely to connect other belt to input

[cyan gorge]

soo...

Sky Force [split 3] > 1 belt [split 2]?

[late imp]

how can i slash the cuprium down to so low it wont effect the hetonite production?

[solid quiver]

kinda

[cyan gorge]

like mine I think??

[solid quiver]

could you clarify it further

[ruby sorrel]

you make it 0 then it won't affect heto

[late imp]

im currently making 240 cuprium max/min which is the requirement for 30 hetonite/min

but i want to use some of the cuprium to make cuprium part

for the cuprium component

[cyan gorge]

something like this right?

[solid quiver]

you simply can not

it requires 240 cuprium power per minute to produce 30 hetonite per minute

[undone current]

just cut half ur heto line or bleed ur cuprium

[cyan gorge]

you can half the hetonite production, so you can have a half for anything else you want to make

[solid quiver]

every solution requires you to reduce your hetonite production

[cyan gorge]

or add an item control port to control how much of not-hetonite-stuff you wanna make, bleed control

[undone current]

yeah dats possible too

[lofty lodge]

[daring rapids]

[cyan gorge]

any liquid xiranite right now is useless tho, unless new region add

[undone current]

well, separate it for more effluent

[cyan gorge]

nah, I cut that line entirely, keep whatever already made for possible future usage

the darken area in Test Area is so explorable, but they withheld it from us 😭

[ruby sorrel]

not dragging a pipe across the map to mine

[solid quiver]

if you think exploreable, then almost every darken area of valley should be tho

[lofty lodge]

Glad i make SC wuling battery that will not jam if full. cost extra power but if battery full, it can still run.

[cyan gorge]

pls dev, unlock every darken area 😭

[small creek]

please use a DEPOT LOADER

my heart aches

[cyan gorge]

I try to conceptual the ideas, this is not used in production line, don't worry lol, and the image is capture from an online factory planner

trying to fix Kyo's "use too much space" problem

[solid quiver]

protocol is kinda better in wuling tho

[cyan gorge]

depend, but I use both depend on how much space I have left

jussssssst to fit everything tightly, no space wasting unless I can't be done further

at least Wuling is 80x80, cuz Valley is 70x70

[daring rapids]

hell nah kyo and "use too much space" shouldn't be in the same sentence

[late imp]

how should i split the xiranite to reduce more? for some reason its 320/min

[cyan gorge]

Except the the Wuling 2 BP - 4x Sky Forge which can't be downscale further (at least not yet), I already clean up most space

[cyan gorge]

more split

[late imp]

the first split at the cup comp it said 310 min when i split another one it suddenly said im using 320/min so im being confused at the moment

[daring rapids]

actually I don't really use his 1.2 bp

I continued with his 1.1 bp

and improved on it

but layout is mostly the same

[solid quiver]

cuz using depots use much more facility

[cyan gorge]

I kinda like the 1.2 BP, but, from what I said, "use too much space"

[late imp]

nvm it updated now its a perfect 300min consumption

[cyan gorge]

kinda hard to hit the facility ceiling for me tho xD

[upper fiber]

well, according to your splitter, you're using 15+7.5 = 22.5

[austere lodge]

Is there any compact blueprint for dense originium that has powder out of depot

I've been routing my extra powder from Xiranite through stash

[cyan gorge]

why not try 3 + 2 split I asked earlier? Don't use my design tho xD

[late imp]

nah i dont need to anymore its now 290/min

cant fix the cuprium part though, at somepoint the hetonite will be shafted

[undone current]

at least u only need few heto comp

[cyan gorge]

I already hit the hetonite max storage limit, and I just keep it there, for any future usage, if there are new gears tho 👀

just if

[undone current]

its probably using cuprium comp instead

[cyan gorge]

I use xiranite comp mostly tho

sucess rate won't change unless it said good match tho 👀

[undone current]

well, maybe if they released more redeemer series with heto comp

[late imp]

good enough, now its just the waiting game

[undone current]

redeemer mean to be used as fodder

[cyan gorge]

already use redeemer on perlica tho, very good stuff indeed

[undone current]

yeah

[jovial breach]

stop making cupium comp lol

[late imp]

is that amount enough?

wont i need to make fodder thhough?

[upper fiber]

eh perlica uses redeemer?

[jovial breach]

man it's way way way more than enough

like i made 20k since the start of patch 1.1

[upper fiber]

5k is more than enough

[jovial breach]

and now i still have like 14k

[late imp]

oh

[upper fiber]

heto 2k i think

[undone current]

gone

[solid quiver]

do you even need cuprium comps

58k is pretty much tho

[ruby sorrel]

I'm still making comps cus it helps delay capping depot

[solid quiver]

you more likely need xiranite comps

they make cheaper fodder

[late imp]

well guess i can just leave xira comp and heto comp forever then
till full i guess

[solid quiver]

you need like 10k or 20k

only to make main gear

[ruby sorrel]

depends how many unused artifice

[cyan gorge]

depend on team comp tho, I use perlica for the BS to activate fangyi CS, so redeemer is very good

[undone current]

i burn 20k cuprium comp before

[ruby sorrel]

if I wanted to use all mine it'd cost 38k comps

[solid quiver]

I'd advise you burn xiranite comps

[cyan gorge]

I think they will run out of stock bill before use up all that cuprium comp xD

[solid quiver]

yeah

kinda useless

16 or 25k is no joke

[undone current]

except for redeemer

[ruby sorrel]

idk there's enough spare/wk to use ~490 artifice with cuprium comps

if you only buy artifice

[cyan gorge]

I still have all the xiranite left over from 1.1 xD

[undone current]

2 stat gear can only be artif with another 2 stat gear

the cursed 40x3

[solid quiver]

are you going to burn redeemer armor for fodder?

[cyan gorge]

wat is dat?

[undone current]

u need redeemer to artif another redeemer

[undone current]

40/40 artif, i hit its guaranteed thrice

[late imp]

i wonder if dev will add belt upgrade

[robust grove]

I need to check my comps cuz I've been artificing some stuff and I might need to restock my xiranite comp cuz I never stocked a ton

[late imp]

if it happen everything will simply implode

[cyan gorge]

jeez, I got a hit every 5-7 artifi times tho

[robust grove]

From what it feels like, probably not

[late imp]

unless its region lock then nothing happen

[undone current]

maybe for next area

im still waiting for sesqa

[upper fiber]

stacked belt when new building out with lower input and higher input placement...

[late imp]

this game needs more logistic, wheres my undeground belt

[lethal dirge]

I'm doing this but my xiranutty output is streched so thin
too little stuff, too much toast

[cyan gorge]

they can't, unless it's a pay to upgrade, cuz server overhead

[late imp]

wheres the double decker pipe or belt

[robust grove]

Also kinda pointless most of the time cuz you don't need that much throughput between machines.

I can see some use for sand leaf cuz that does sometimes take up way too much space

[solid quiver]

not 20/20?

what a scam

[undone current]

redeemer hit at 40/40

[tulip tinsel]

Am I bad at math? I don't see how batteries + syringes can produce enough to deplete stock rn

[solid quiver]

who even uses this scam shit

[tulip tinsel]

It seems to be a bit short

[undone current]

20/20 like 7 times already

[tulip tinsel]

about 4k per hour short

[undone current]

[solid quiver]

what's your stats

[undone current]

chen lr xaihi

[valid gazelle]

I dont do the maths.. but i dont see my battery going down even tho i only sell batteries

[tulip tinsel]

14.75/min bat + 6/min syringe

[cyan gorge]

if you play everyday, login, get daily, sell stock, it will deplete way faster than you think

[lethal dirge]

I built a double decker pipe the other day, just trying to connect a pipe convreger in a slope
bugged as hell, of course

[tulip tinsel]

Mine is currently depleted

[robust grove]

Good thing I don't use LR or Xaihi even though LR is P1 and Xaihi is P5

[solid quiver]

no heavy xiranites or heto parts?

[tulip tinsel]

But I am saying that since we got lvl 3marker, it is no longer sustainable on just batteries and syringes

[cyan gorge]

they hard part of that? no stock bill left for me to upgrade Sub-AIC fast 😭

[tulip tinsel]

Oh, 50% heto and 12 heavy per min

[solid quiver]

good thing I stopped using cryo team cuz I didn't get tangtang

[robust grove]

My tangtang is for my Rossi team lmao

I don't run cryo

[cyan gorge]

arclight as well

[tulip tinsel]

But yeah, the point was just that you can't sell batteries without it at some point causing you to run out

Since you also burn some

You have to sell some heavy xira or heto parts

[robust grove]

You burn a pretty small amount.

Like, 3 per min or something.

[chrome shell]

Syringe seems inefficient, yea

[cyan gorge]

JUST USE DIGE, you can sell even more batteries xD

[undone current]

too much efficiency end up clogging urself

[late imp]

whats a dige?

[cyan gorge]

I sell everyday never once on on my account it hit the storage limit

[ruby sorrel]

always sell batts cus I don't have overflow protection for that

meanwhile my hxira capping every other day

[cyan gorge]

Dijiang Integrated Generator Efficiency, aka implementing PWM without learning math

[robust grove]

A PWM?

[undone current]

u can, just look at merci right now

[cyan gorge]

it never happened to me tho

[tulip tinsel]

My math is this

59688/h-14.75/min.*54*60-6/min*60*22 = 3978/h surplus stock

[undone current]

eventually its happened to u

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it'll happen with that much over

[tulip tinsel]

And that is without even considering how many batteries you burn

[late imp]

ok now ur just speaking a different language
what the hell is dijiang IGE?

[ruby sorrel]

I used to cut it really close by making comps, but I have all the comps I need now

so depot is just exploding

[robust grove]

I've been doing valley trades daily and the only thing that's clogging up is the lower tier meds cuz I don't use it all that much.

I don't think having too much eff and clogging up wuling gonna be that soon.

[undone current]

intentionally minus ur factories so u don't get overcapped

[ruby sorrel]

and I deliver xiranite so my factory actually runs for a few hrs/day

[tulip tinsel]

Site that generate pwm setups

[chrome shell]

Same, I'm leaving a couple forges unused and banking half the xira from 1 forge to keep everything running

[robust grove]

Y'all PWM? I just delete random shit until I'm barely under the requirements

[late imp]

ooohhhh
cool maybe i should try implement that, i still have some space

[tulip tinsel]

Technically pwm is a misnomer, the correct term would be variable load I think

[late imp]

but does it calculate the selling or is this just the exact battery requirment for powering the base?

[ruby sorrel]

do you not see the pulse width

[chrome shell]

Does the game still give you low power popups if you use variable load

[cyan gorge]

without mathing hassle, so yeah, can be apply to Valley IV as well

But use DIGE if you have other thing run around like Ziplines, turrets, and stuff

[crimson scaffold]

guys, i have a question related to the new water treatement units, whats the use of the xircon efluent? Do i bring it all the way to the base, or can use it right there?

[solid quiver]

stock bill generation 46380/h = 773/min

current:
yazhen A 6/min * 22 = 132/min
H xira 12/min * 27 = 324/min
heto parts 3/min * 48 = 144/min
battery 14.75/min * 54 = 796.5/min
= 132+324+144+796.5 =1396.5 bill / min

you are nearly doubling

[ruby sorrel]

if anything the original "pwm" thing was just random half splitter bs with messy time spacing

[wispy nimbus]

are there any available ferrium mines in wuling after update?

[solid quiver]

even you reduce bats for power yours should be far enough

[cyan gorge]

no...is the basic answer

[solid quiver]

@tulip tinsel

[chrome shell]

With the new cuprium nodes there's a ferrium shortage, gotta metastorage some ferrium powder from V4

[valid gazelle]

even without Hetonite... you are still overproducing comparing to the stockbill earnings..

[solid quiver]

90/min

[robust grove]

I mean, technically variable load controls the power generation capabilities. Not quite correct.

But like, if you squint hard enough, the integrated battery can be considered a power source so that's technically correct as well.

[solid quiver]

are you including the bonus?

[tulip tinsel]

Accounting for my battery use being 1.61/min

59688/h-(14.75-1-61)/min.*54*60-6/min*60*22 = 9194.4/h surplus stock => you would need to sell about 341 heavy xira per hour or ~6 per min (5.7)

[cyan gorge]

not include

[valid gazelle]

yep

[tulip tinsel]

That is what? heavy xira + bat + syringe?

[solid quiver]

why

you should be comparing on base

[cyan gorge]

Hetonite Component

[tulip tinsel]

The selling bonus does not apply to the stock depletion

[valid gazelle]

12 Heavy + 12 SCW (because I have >14.5 and im using 2.5 SCW) + 6 Syringe

[solid quiver]

20~35% bonus comes from after you sell it

[surreal lantern]

ppl playing a game and someone throwing PWM into their face

[cyan gorge]

already depleted everything, when I play everyday + DIGE ( I mean, stuff, not stock bill)

[valid gazelle]

oh okay then we are overearning with a bigger margin

[surreal lantern]

electrical engineer: ok how do we do it

others: what?? entering chen mode

[solid quiver]

yeah nearly doubling

[valid gazelle]

i dont even use DIGE lol

[robust grove]

I mean, it's pretty optional and kinda a hassle when there's updates coming out with new shit often.

[tulip tinsel]

EE rise up

[valid gazelle]

and i have 3s of overcharge

[solid quiver]

@tulip tinsel

[surreal lantern]

i slept through the whole lecture of PWM back in university day

[robust grove]

Cuz unlike real world, we have to change the power input into the buffer manually.

[surreal lantern]

[robust grove]

Bold of you to assume I didn't do the same shit

[cyan gorge]

I use so much cuz turret and ziplines so I need DIGE xD

[valid gazelle]

just jam pack the turrets with 50 SCW each

[robust grove]

Power turrets with bats

[surreal lantern]

yeah you don't need to use DIGE

just rough calculation is OK

[valid gazelle]

a stack of SCW = 100+ run on a 14 Mortar 1 Acid config

[robust grove]

I powered by turrets with HCV4 lol

[tulip tinsel]

Yeah, I was just pretty sure that we didn't need to sell heta and heavy before test area

[valid gazelle]

[tulip tinsel]

Since the stock from marker basically doubled

[surreal lantern]

battery x20 then divide by 2 or 3 depends on how many power you want

[tulip tinsel]

Also that math does not account for bat use

[surreal lantern]

assuming you can live with annoying power outage voiceline

[valid gazelle]

the amount of energy that the turrets use from battery is so little... you barely have to do much

[robust grove]

It stops after some time.

[ruby sorrel]

I can't even hear the power outage line anymore

[robust grove]

They don't repeat to infinity

[cyan gorge]

We really need region update rn 😭

[surreal lantern]

[tulip tinsel]

Don't you love these?

Such great loot

[robust grove]

They give so little

Give me annihilation back

[cyan gorge]

Well, until update, yeah, it's good stuff xD

should I get this line as well 👀

[undone current]

ye

[surreal lantern]

we have pwm, imagine if hypergryph implement a logic control block that we can use PD / PDI control next

[undone current]

bp more worth the money than montly

[cyan gorge]

real

[solid quiver]

8400 to 19500

[tulip tinsel]

Wait, you call it PDI and not PID?

[solid quiver]

more than doubled

[surreal lantern]

PID*

[tulip tinsel]

Was about to crash out

[cyan gorge]

well, monthly is half the price of the bpass

[tulip tinsel]

My bachelor is literally about PID funnily enough

Due today

[solid quiver]

could you tell me what's those acronyms

[surreal lantern]

PID will be too hard i think, maybe only PD first

[cyan gorge]

gosh, go and do it lol

[robust grove]

Was like, what we need pilot direction indicator for.

[undone current]

well yeah but montly endfield feels more shit than ak

[tulip tinsel]

Proportional, integral, derivative

[tulip tinsel]

I mean it is done already

[cyan gorge]

I don't play OG A9 enough to understand the economy, mind to elaborate?

[robust grove]

Pelvic inflammation (inflammatory?) disease

[tulip tinsel]

I've had like 3 months to do it almost

[robust grove]

[surreal lantern]

[cyan gorge]

wish you got high score (or high grading 👀)

[tulip tinsel]

I'd argue PI makes more sense?

[surreal lantern]

[tulip tinsel]

D generally requires infinite sampling to work at ideal

Also PI elimates stationary error

[undone current]

in ak, 1 sanity pot can be used for 4+ run on any possible farm stage but on endfield its 1/2 stage lol

[ruby sorrel]

san sucks so hard in this game

[surreal lantern]

for implementation (dev), i think PI is harder than PD

[undone current]

also endfield originium is half value compare to ak

[valid gazelle]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[robust grove]

Eh, the sanity isn't that good of a comparison when you get 2 per week.

The amount of sanity you regen however

[tulip tinsel]

Honestly have no idea about that, I just use matlab and simulink

[robust grove]

[cyan gorge]

It funny to me that 3/4 of my friend get me hook on play A9:Endfield are all in or involve in electrical circuitry thingy xD

[ruby sorrel]

3 runs/day is complete ass

[undone current]

7 min/1 sanity

[tulip tinsel]

It's probably some utter mid

[robust grove]

I kinda don't mind the low run per day somewhat cuz I don't have to babysit the game that often when I can just mash 2 out, craft a gear and log off.

[tulip tinsel]

Writing it with my friend and we've only hit about 70-ish pages

[cyan gorge]

that's mean you know what you get, and not get fail, already better than me, failed sometimes 😭

[undone current]

nah, its too low

[robust grove]

Do they play Factorio?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's great run count is low, but the material/run is also low af

[tulip tinsel]

Yeah, I would be shook if I managed to fail it

[cyan gorge]

idk, I never ask, but I bet they are

[ruby sorrel]

without events it'd take a month to max a chara or sth

[tulip tinsel]

I'd have to crash out at the verbal defense hard

[undone current]

also we don't have any annihilation

[robust grove]

If yes, good.

If no, sabotage them and gift them the game.
Cuz that's the best way to get rid of rival company, by getting their engineers addicted to Factorio

[copper geyser]

lowk i kind of wish convergers would allow you control which sides of it would recieve and export items / liquids

[valid gazelle]

what ?

you can rotate it

[cyan gorge]

I wonder how the A9E gameplay apply to CC mode xD

[undone current]

just let me config IO on any machine

[tulip tinsel]

I think he wants a converge split combi?

[undone current]

probably same as umbral

[copper geyser]

YEAH EXACTLY

[valid gazelle]

isnt that just.. a converger with a splitter ?

[tulip tinsel]

But in a smaller footprint

[copper geyser]

exactly ;;;

[cyan gorge]

or.....Umbral + Turret defense like the Early warning terminal

[valid gazelle]

wait..i dont follow

if you want to converger 2 in.. and split at the same time.. isnt that the bridge ?

[robust grove]

Say you get 2 inputs, from up and down, and you want to split those 2 into left and right

[copper geyser]

not exactly,

[undone current]

well we have 0 info bout it, but my speculation its work as umbral+++ version

[copper geyser]

THIS EXACTLY

[surreal lantern]

if dev implement sth more for factory, gameplay gonna take a hit cuz their sanity gone with factory

[valid gazelle]

oh

[robust grove]

0 sanity Endmin behavior

[cyan gorge]

I can already imagine game devs force us to burn material for deploying Turrets that can be destroy during CC run and no return mat

[copper geyser]

but if it gets implemented optimizing items and more stuff will be so crazy lol

[valid gazelle]

more like the nonfactory players are gonna complain

and this channel is even more flooded with people asking about Kyo's bp

but yes pls

[robust grove]

Implement proper tower defence, just like original CC

[valid gazelle]

CC Risk 3: Mortars are no longer available

[undone current]

kek

back to surge tower

[cyan gorge]

1 turret per type?

[copper geyser]

like, i kind of even want one where the left input has up output and right input has down output,, that'd be so game-changing to optimize space

[cyan gorge]

like OG A9 xD

[surreal lantern]

need to ask them to implement PLC into factory gameplay

[robust grove]

Push weight affecting the water towers so you can't stall

[cyan gorge]

this will prob risk 2

[hoary crag]

ya'll forgot the classic

[valid gazelle]

Armor Fragger range -1

💀

[robust grove]

Funny when you can just yeetthe dangerous unit a distance away

[hoary crag]

Risk 1: Life Points set to 1

[undone current]

for sure ill pick defender ban for free risk

[cyan gorge]

nah, that Risk 10

[hoary crag]

that will always be risk 1 lmao

[robust grove]

Who needs defender when infinite gravel works

[valid gazelle]

risk 1 is always 1 hp

[cyan gorge]

lol xD, I never try CC mode on A9 tho, only watching other do it xD

[surreal lantern]

introducing CC factory gameplay:

Risk 1: can't use belt / splitter / merger
Risk 2: pipe can't be longer than 20m
etc..

[undone current]

[cyan gorge]

it will be proper if Risk 1 is set char to lower level + force basic gear + weapon tho

[valid gazelle]

no

[undone current]

nah u don't

[valid gazelle]

this is on a risk scale

the higher the risk the stronger the debuff

[cyan gorge]

damn, CC is more hell than I thought @@

[undone current]

well its still they get deployed op risk

[tulip tinsel]

What about setting the walking speed when placing stuff to a forced slow walk

And no top view

[valid gazelle]

you havent seen my 99 cost Mudrock

😭

and she's P6 btw..

[cyan gorge]

that way too easy xD

[undone current]

2.3m gundam hp? yes pls, ill hit it for 4 hours straight

[robust grove]

Retreating gravel 1 frame before the arrow goes through her face

[tulip tinsel]

It just needs to be annoying

[undone current]

its used to 123 dp cost

[surreal lantern]

[valid gazelle]

god i cant wait for CC

[tulip tinsel]

Pipes and belts can't cross

[valid gazelle]

its a whole fun and challenging event

and one with dramas too

[cyan gorge]

I wonder if devs will someday release a Global participation battle, like the one in HI3, and then add CC mode to it 👀

[valid gazelle]

remember folks.. when there's drama we sit aside with popcorn, we dont join in

[undone current]

don't forgot cc song too

[hoary crag]

it took me a week to get from 750 to 805 btw

(max rewards are at 620, anything above are just for bragging rights)

[robust grove]

Think the music gonna get drama again?

[hoary crag]

I can imagine the same happening to endfield CC

[valid gazelle]

Where R32

[surreal lantern]

multi player factory gameplay

each player produce one block of factory

next ppl use whatever from that previous guy and so on

[valid gazelle]

my highest is only R27

[undone current]

dats just stronghold protocol

[hoary crag]

I never hit max risk sadly

[valid gazelle]

pushing further fries my brain

[robust grove]

I will kill someone ngl

[hoary crag]

I do still dream of doing so tho

[cyan gorge]

I only identified Theresa and Adrelia (I forgot the OG A9 name).
I realized Theresa cuz Storyteller 👀

[hoary crag]

endfield might be my chance

[undone current]

aint cc3 week1 easy enough to do it

[robust grove]

Some people's spaghetti is atrocious

[valid gazelle]

no.. implementing multiplayer into RA is actually a great idea

1 day 3 player gets to do 1 move each

[cyan gorge]

did someone play CC with 3 star char before?

[valid gazelle]

some CC you have to

[robust grove]

I mean, it's possible

[hoary crag]

some insane people did but not me

[valid gazelle]

3* operators are goats in AK

[surreal lantern]

wait, i have to post my idea just now to feedback

[valid gazelle]

due to their extremely low cost

[hoary crag]

I swear

if I fucking see someone

[undone current]

cc5 get u r18 with mostly*3 op

[hoary crag]

get trimmed medal

with catcher solo

[robust grove]

Like, you can generally clear risk 18 with a full 3 star team

[valid gazelle]

AK is one of the very very few games where lower rarity characters are .. surprisingly relevant

[surreal lantern]

i did with CC1..

i didn't start in time with CC0

[undone current]

fuyu, theres already someone solo trimmed with ardel

[cyan gorge]

wait, I just realized #aic-factory now turn into CC topic xD

[valid gazelle]

Ardelia DPS build

[solid quiver]

yeah looks like broken spaghetti

[valid gazelle]

her combo skill is a 100% trigger

[robust grove]

The fucked up parts are the 5 stars

[undone current]

dive atk spam

[surreal lantern]

it's totally factory

[valid gazelle]

nah that's too tame

[cyan gorge]

tell me, I want to try too xD

[valid gazelle]

Risk 1: Reduce facility limit to 128

[solid quiver]

bruh belt not allowed?

[undone current]

nah, dats how koko did it, he play solo ardel

[solid quiver]

you mean logistics?

[pulsar cypress]

The highest must be..
Clogging..

[robust grove]

I won't have complains about no belt if it actually transfers between facility without belts

[surreal lantern]

risk 3: no use of depot

[robust grove]

Death

[undone current]

w8, lower protocol space risk

[solid quiver]

easy

[eternal dust]

shoutout to that one reddit post dont know how i didnt think of this earlier

[cyan gorge]

nah, risk 1 is something like: No water pass the yellow line

[solid quiver]

as long as protocol stash allowed

[upper fiber]

power use x10

[shell hinge]

So many being scammed by mortar spam

[solid quiver]

I can smell useless power from here

[shell hinge]

Use acid for main dps instead

[cyan gorge]

shared facility link, right?

[valid gazelle]

🔥

[robust grove]

I'm still using armour Fraggers lmao

[valid gazelle]

When DEF gets shredded enough, it becomes true damage

[eternal dust]

i dont know what that is i just manually placed all of those

[robust grove]

Ifirt cosplay

[surreal lantern]

have to wait for 13th sui..

[undone current]

just use hyperbeam tower

[cyan gorge]

I've seen people using 14 own mortal + 14 from shared facility link

[solid quiver]

hyperbeam is kinda mej

meh

[undone current]

also technically its possible next area being sesqa as it can feature gases

[solid quiver]

beam is kinda meh

[undone current]

soul furnace

[surreal lantern]

i use 12 mortar + 1 acid + 2 fire

[solid quiver]

I want inferno towers

[surreal lantern]

cuz when boss pop up, fire + acid do the work while waiting for mortar rounds

[cyan gorge]

will this ever be enough for the next character tho (just 1 char)

[surreal lantern]

maybe, but not weapon

[solid quiver]

I use 3 roaster cuz it covers up whole respawn point

[surreal lantern]

[final sierra]

ok now I am ready to try

[solid quiver]

no

40 pull is nothing

[cyan gorge]

I already give up on getting sig weapon tho

[surreal lantern]

im hitting 80 for 2 weapons in a row..

[cyan gorge]

unless I know it benefit, I might pull some string on my credit card xD

[solid quiver]

you get sigs as bonus tho

you are bound to get sigs if you get the character

[shell hinge]

Mortars lose a ton of dmg when you add more mortars

Acid has really good straight damage for whatever reason

[solid quiver]

if only we could delay mortars

[cyan gorge]

I get basically every chars from the game up until now, just not high potential tho, and not paying a single dime

[solid quiver]

and?

[cyan gorge]

I might start do some top-up tho

[solid quiver]

ok

[cyan gorge]

just recently get better salary so yeah

A9:E might be the first game convince me enough to actually want to do top-up

[shell hinge]

Avg is 0.6 p0 sig per p0 limited operator. Can get better or worse depending on rng

[solid quiver]

that sounds enough for a banner lasts 3 patches or almost 2 months

[shell hinge]

Banner length has nothing to do with it

[cyan gorge]

I want to get rossi sig, cuz I already have fire, electric, and ice build, I want an physics build for RE-C speed run xD

[scenic mesa]

how people have so much limited character

[shell hinge]

Is rossi even good for phys?

Isn't old phys team still better than rossi phys?

[scenic mesa]

you do 80 pull each banner or something

[cyan gorge]

which old phys build?

[valid gazelle]

[cyan gorge]

30 each, to be exact

1-2 60 pulls but mostly I get at 30

[scenic mesa]

damn ...

[cyan gorge]

or 40 with the free recuit turn

[solid quiver]

she is more like fire dps

[scenic mesa]

gg to your strat

[solid quiver]

need physical sub dps

[shell hinge]

Endmin/da pan, chen, lifeng, pog

[cyan gorge]

endmin and dapan, which better?

[solid quiver]

dapan kinda

[valid gazelle]

can do a funny stagger build and make a "go to sleep go to sleep and i hope you don't wake up" team

[scenic mesa]

i feel like i just cant handle gamble, either i get it after 120 or im not gonna pull

[cyan gorge]

I can handle, plus I can do top-up, the problem is every gacha game I play I just can't get enough excuse for topping-up

[scenic mesa]

fr

i played genshin, honkai before

this is the first game i would glady top up stuff

[cyan gorge]

I guess "Glory to hyperglyhp" is not the myth then xD

[jovial breach]

Yes but it's easy in aic, outside aic sometimes the pipe doesn't work you'll need to do a bit of extra tricks

[scenic mesa]

character design, gameplay, graphic, main quest experience, everything just a on a whole new level compare to ||hoyocrab|| stuff

[cyan gorge]

don't censor it, let it raw

xD

[scenic mesa]

yeaaaaaaaa

Glory to HyperGlyph

[ruby sorrel]

I still don't get why it doesn't work sometimes when flat but randomly works even when it has height difference

[shell hinge]

Hypergryph.....

[cyan gorge]

even with dosier and free 10 pulls after 30?

[final sierra]

-4 pipe logistics 🤩

[cyan gorge]

try to mess around with it, you will get it go underground xD

[final sierra]

already have some XD

[valid gazelle]

damn.. another one to the pipe benders

[cyan gorge]

hidden bender in avatar xD

[final sierra]

btw this also works XD

[surreal lantern]

OCD is triggering

[ruby sorrel]

huuh I never tried double bridge

[final sierra]

thats just temp part for reversing the flow cuz most of my pipes are 80m so removing 1 bridge need that part (i will remove all bridges soon)

[ruby sorrel]

80m pain

[cyan gorge]

*PAIN*

[final sierra]

XD

[solid quiver]

that doesn't count to pity iirc

[lofty lodge]

Finally... it look more organized

[valid gazelle]

Nice

[final sierra]

aligned good: DONT WORK 🤣

[solid quiver]

align again

stash few pipes then connect

[ruby sorrel]

sometimes it's just reversing again and it works

[final sierra]

repeated 10 times it didnt so moved conection a little and it started

[cursive oasis]

This is why I had to use underground bits.

[final sierra]

oh this was the reason

[cursive oasis]

Even ground: overhead pipes.
Uneven ground: drag it underground.

[cursive oasis]

Holy shit.

[final sierra]

ok it works

[jovial breach]

Ye sometimes it happens like this

I dunno exactly how to fix i usually just try it again and again until it works

[final sierra]

I found a way at least to 100% determine if it is connected it helped me

[daring rapids]

I hate when pipes aren't the same height

[final sierra]

if after alligning next tube become white it is connected

[final sierra]

if not then something like this is happening

[cursive oasis]

Isn't this...like, the basic mechanic for pipes? It also highlights buildings, helps a lot when you directly connect splitter to a building and it isn't turned the right way.

[final sierra]

yes but here i connect 80 + 80 pipe :)

[cursive oasis]

Yikes.

[quartz marsh]

You can just tp, the distance is enough not to break the connection

[final sierra]

yes but zipline can help with route you want (not only to teleport parts)

[ruby sorrel]

ye you run forwards enough to not drown when you jump off the bridge

it's so annoying the slack doesn't get picked up when you run towards it

[velvet ledge]

help with wuling, how do i grow my 200 power base

[upper fiber]

bring battery from valley iv

then make xiranite

then make LC wuling battery

[velvet ledge]

this needs multiple plant farms in the 1st place i th ink

[upper fiber]

yeah, use plant loop

you make sandleaf and yazhen/jincao

[solid quiver]

1 for carbon 1 for sandleaf

[cursive oasis]

Wuling plants produce more Carbon than Valley plants, so they are intended to be used for that.

[velvet ledge]

jincao hasnt been introduced yet

do i bother trying to inicrease my power yet

[final sierra]

uhhh at least it is hidden inside a tree

[cursive oasis]

You can go to Dijang, switch to Valley Storage, take Valley Batteries from it (Crl+Click to fill inventory) then switch to Wuling Storage and deposit all of it into it the same way. Then you can just directly feed power bank with batteries while you set up your production lines with higher power capacity.

[velvet ledge]

wait does that mean i have to wait for a long itme

[velvet ledge]

so just manually transfer the hc batteries from there huh

[cursive oasis]

Just to set things up.

Wuling bats are higher efficiency.

[ancient pier]

how many purification unit does 15/m hetonite needs?

[velvet ledge]

even these things need xiranite, i was thinking of setting up my ores first

[lofty lodge]

Your main goal is to make fully function xiranite farm. About 30/min xiranite i think. Forges got limit. try cap that along with LC wuling bttery

[cursive oasis]

Xiranite is rather easy to make.

[swift steppe]

Partly depends on how much your Xircon lines are already eating.

[velvet ledge]

yeah but rn the only way i can make xiranite is by manually loading batteries to wuling since

a single xiranite line takes up more than 200 power, including a sandleaf loop and a carbon producer

[swift steppe]

I think I started with SC Valley Batteries using just Wuling resources, but getting LC Wuling Batteries is a massive boost with just one giving 1600.

[hardy tangle]

only the hetonite 15/min is just one purification, any additional will come from additonal xircon production besides the "standard" two xircon productions, which those inert goes into one purification, for the half speed xircon production (or heavy xira)

[ember shoal]

a single battery transfer should last you several hours

more than enough time to get you set up for xiranite and wuling battery production

[hardy tangle]

1750 V4 batteries, one a time, lasts u 19,4 hrs

1750 being one full manual transfer

[velvet ledge]

are u guys pertaining to HC?

cause im only able to transfer 30 per hour

[small creek]

thats through metastorage

[lofty lodge]

Manual transfer. put in your pocket and send it into wuling domain expansion.

[small creek]

manual transfer is doing it on dijiang

[cursive oasis]

Do it manually, not through transfer.

[swift steppe]

Manually lugging through the ship's depot changer

[small creek]

its faster than it sounds

like rmz said, 1750 every manual transfer

each transfer takes like what, 8 seconds?

[swift steppe]

*on keyboard, ctrl + click to grab/place maximum stacks

[hardy tangle]

damn, even faster in pc then

[velvet ledge]

as in clear our inventory and manual transvfer huh

[hardy tangle]

yes

[hardy tangle]

your backpack has 35 slots, max stack is 50
1750

[velvet ledge]

one sec i think i need a bus depot for my wuling base to become operational

[thin grotto]

Can someone give me advice about my intermediary Sewage System? This is for the other 4 Cuprium refineries, not sure if I've set up the splitters properly

[solid quiver]

why is no sewage coming from hetonite

[hardy tangle]

is literally the bottom one

but splitting it in these many pieces, eeee.. why

[solid quiver]

yeah human are weird

[thin grotto]

Currently offline since im producing yahzen a

[quartz marsh]

You can shorten the connection until some point and then connect away from tp. As a result, I made the same connection as yours.

[mellow walrus]

What does efficient battery set up look like

[winged dirge]

Guys, how do you create a 100% Efficient Xircon Factory? How many Reactors do you need for that?

[thin grotto]

Yeah i was a Bit lost in the sauce

[small creek]

2 expanded

[hardy tangle]

for each, 2 expanded

you feed one of the cupriums sewage into the first, then the second reuses the sewage it produces (which is the one producing the xircon)

[swift steppe]

Fullspeed for a battery line takes 5x standard, or down to 2x Expanded Crucibles.

[solid quiver]

then you are sending ~1.2 sewage to purification node i think

I would just advise you send extra sewages to purification node

your sewages coming from god knows where places by manifold and come to other manifold

[final sierra]

oh the pipes

[hardy tangle]

piping the dream

[thin grotto]

Yeah i wasn't sure If the uneven splits would mess up with my Output even if the machines clog. Anyways, I'll be revising it, thanks

[winged dirge]

Idk why but i have a hard time understanding how this works. I tried once reusing Sewage or Xircon or whatever, and it clogged up my production.

[tough berry]

max farm is 14.75 sc 6 heto 12hv right?

[delicate edge]

When we do send sewage to Test Area, the Xircon is worth bringing back to base? Or just fluid tanks storage viable with manual bottling?

[hardy tangle]

problem with splits is that if the flow isnt constant, its gonna be some real wonky work

[tough berry]

im using it for making sc for 3rd one

[mellow walrus]

How to make the battery thing take where it don’t take too much

[hardy tangle]

its not too hard but understandable to take a bit of time to sit and "study" how it works

[thin grotto]

Gains are marginal, depends on if you want to save some xiranite, create a tad more xircon or bottle/puddle it for Future usage

[hardy tangle]

the good thing about the expanded cruci is that it can do multiple reactions/productions in one go (altho only 1 of the same type at a time)

[tough berry]

bad thing is it cost 50 more power ahahah

[hardy tangle]

reason it cant just produce xircon with just 1 expanded (also cuz it wont automatically try and manage how much X amount of an item it needs vs it produces)

actually, it uses 50 less Total power

from the first line of xircon production

[subtle finch]

as always with these question its a matter of power, it takes 40w to bottle and unbottle, that lets you convert that sewage to very few effluent, that ratio isnt worth 40w of power, but if you don't pwm then 40w doesn't matter anyway so a gain is still a gain

[hardy tangle]

which was 5 normal crucibles

[tough berry]

for potion route its 50 more power

since tiny cru can do 2 potion

[hardy tangle]

for medicines, you dont need to use the expanded

[idle mason]

So uhh, what do I do with this new Water Treatment section?

[delicate edge]

The test area Xircon effluent, around how many does it make per day? Like can it make 2000 a day? That's four fluid tanks right?

[hardy tangle]

sacrifice all your sewage to it (that you arent using)

[tough berry]

you can normally use it as place to dump sewage

for less trestment

if got enrgy can use for extra free stuff

[velvet ledge]

meanwhile i have a hard time here figuring out how to kick start my 1st wuling outpost

game introduces xiranite production but you don thave enough power, space and wuling stocks to expand base

[hardy tangle]

it makes 1/min amount of effluent PER source of 30/min sewage you sacrifice

[tough berry]

rn max eff is 8 per pc

[ancient pier]

How much better is going 15 sc than 12 sc + 4 lc?

[hardy tangle]

which isnt much but piles up after a week or so

[hardy tangle]

it was the same in v4

you used to just burn through the normal originium

this time you have the advantage of having v4 batteries

[winged dirge]

I didn'T have too much trouble with Normal Xiranite. Sure, i used Buckflower for the Carbon 💀 But other than that, it was easy. But Unnecessarily uh... what is the opposite of "Compact" ?

[tough berry]

so 8 = 7 per min ×60×24=10k + daily

[hardy tangle]

Chaos

😂

[upper fiber]

Fat

[velvet ledge]

when should i be trying to setup a xiranite line and a battery line

right after the outpost gets introduced?

[hardy tangle]

as soon as possible tbh

xiranite production is your backbone of whole Wuling

[tough berry]

you need 20 tank if you want them and your at max eff

[keen river]

you can transfer stuff between regions on board of dijiang

[hardy tangle]

and ofc, setting up your mining spots

[velvet ledge]

even if i dont have access to

[keen river]

so you can transfer manually like 10k v4 batteries and they will last you for a while

[velvet ledge]

wuling stockbill yet?

[delicate edge]

Wow. I don't wanna bottle that much each day. I guess have to conduit it back to base huh

[hardy tangle]

it shouldnt take long to unlock them

[tough berry]

better send it to area

[hardy tangle]

ppl who uses tanks in the test area are deranged

[velvet ledge]

ah better to unlock that first right before bothering with wuling outpost

[tough berry]

where you make your xircon

[small creek]

8.6-9.6k

[surreal lantern]

accidentally turn off water supply unit before went to bed...

[tough berry]

so you can pipe it straight and use less power

[hardy tangle]

"game of automation" ... goes and add so much manual work to do daily

[surreal lantern]

whole factory stop

[winged dirge]

Bro u just reminded me of that, i could have spared SO MUCH LOADING TIME back when i was feeding my Wuling Factory with HC Valley Batteries. 1 week ago.

[surreal lantern]

[tough berry]

i have to suffer waisting power for filling and unfilling

[delicate edge]

That's too much to manually bottle 😭

[small creek]

you dont have to

pipe it back and use a filling unit

[hardy tangle]

dehydrated factories

😭

[surreal lantern]

it's not dehydrated

[delicate edge]

Yeah I'm gonna have to conduit it back to base then

[surreal lantern]

it's flooded

[daring rapids]

if there was a depot in test area, I would do bottles

[hardy tangle]

wasting? most ppl uses 2x batteries at a time anyways, make use of the power you are probably already burning through

[small creek]

we have 17 days left

[velvet ledge]

wait is it possible to setup a xiranite battery without expanding the 1st outpost

[small creek]

imagine how much effl that is

[daring rapids]

it would save so much facilities cap for me

[hardy tangle]

yeap

[tough berry]

dang i should not gone did setup all my sewage in small pepe area of mark stone its painfull to resetup it back to main base to use less power sigh

[hardy tangle]

oof

[small creek]

sewage in markerstone was kind of always a bad choice

[surreal lantern]

i still can't decide what to do with excess xeranite from 1 forge and extra effluent..

changing LC to SC to heavy, back and forth still can't decide

[tough berry]

look at those blue and purple they yummy

[surreal lantern]

[hardy tangle]

i was already suffering yesterday remaking a lot of stuff cuz tuning down from 30/m to 15/m heto x_x

while also trying to sustain a hxira there

[daring rapids]

worst part is you still have to pipe to wuling first even if u want it straight to test area

[tough berry]

can use 10 to increase 3rd bat makijg + 20 at xira comp

[hardy tangle]

so i just went lazy and bottle up that half sewage from heto
then slammed a refinement of cuprium instead for more constant flow of sewage for the hxira

[surreal lantern]

the aftermath after wake up

[hardy tangle]

using those low batteries is so overkill xD

[tough berry]

gives ya 3 gain per min

[hardy tangle]

i already have 80k SCwul in v4, i dont need them to pile up that high again

[surreal lantern]

guess i need to drag another conduit in case accident happen and copium is overflowing....

[hardy tangle]

now both xira and heavy xira are in their 70-80ks , so im good o,o keeping it constant now

[velvet ledge]

I dont think i have enough output spaces

[surreal lantern]

it's art

[hardy tangle]

so

[surreal lantern]

beauty vs efficency

[hardy tangle]

the beatiful thing about Xiranite production

is that it requires 0 outputs

[small creek]

whos gonna tell em

[hardy tangle]

Also, for carbon? you use the wuling plants

[tough berry]

i feel like im seeing alien gun

[velvet ledge]

i dont think i have the formula for that

[hardy tangle]

more like a cat shat on the bedsheets