#aic-factory
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kk i ll check thanks
oh. you have same conduit line with the one in tiktok? https://www.tiktok.com/@eisencatoga/photo/7640497586113088788
So you touch ground on one end, then you zip from one end to the other, and then without touching ground grab the connection and then get stuck and tp by timing out
Holy ai
actually i did this on my own
Idk, I don't think it's too bad
What would you do instead?
i stretch them out with 80-length pipe in between, even double 80's
since my base is all in one in wuling, no outposts
Yeah, but does that save any "pitstops"?
yeah i can stretch the overall transport
haruna using conduits!?
how many conduit pairs did you use
only 2
Damn
wow
for each lines of sewage, effluent, and acid
Damn, I used three
of course i need to, im all-in-one
Still, you would have to pipe like crazy to cut off 200 meters
i mean, im the final boss of piping
what production are you guys running in the current factory?
main AIC (EU/NA codes):
production:
15/min SC battery (will drop to 14.75 when drain ori cubes)
12/min Heavy Xiranite
6/min Yazhen A
3/min Heto Part
16.363/min Xiranite (will increase to 18.279 when drain ori cubes)
interactive:
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=t4e6Q1X0H5Q6H2
codes:
-
make SC output from AIC to 2 thermal banks
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EFO010U96093E1iO9E179 (AIC stor+other)
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EFO01A5ieAi1I7E1u9ieO (cubes)
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EFO01o083o8Oeu67OIieO (CuprX8+HetoPart) connect water, connect sewage by image, (includes unbotteling sewage)
-
EFO01o083o8Oeu67UIieO (XirRock+HXir) connect water, connect sewage
-
EFO01u1IouI4A801aAoOU (Yazh) connect water, add seed
sub AIC1 (EU/NA codes):
production:
180/min Xiranite
interactive:
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=V3a4t9N0A8w6z3
codes:
- EFO012I4524A6O8OieIOo (subAIC1 storage) x1
- EFO01Iao8Io5i39uo5o08 (Xiranite v7) x6
- EFO01Iao8Io5i39u35o08 (Sandleaf x4) x1
sub AIC2 (EU/NA codes):
production:
120/min Xiranite
15/min Hetonite
15/min Sewage
100/Sandleaf ( 90/min you will need for ori Cubes)
interactive:
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=U3B7Y2H7G4v7V4
codes:
- EFO0158OE5Oea2uo1eIoe (subAIC2 storage) x1
- EFO01Iao8Io5i39uo5o08 (Xiranite v7) x4
- EFO01Iao8Io5i39u35o08 (Sandleaf x4) x1
- EFO01iOe7ieaoU28472U4 (Heto 50% + Sewa) x1 !!! dont forget to unbottle sewage on main AIC or replace filling unit with water treatment if you dont care about sewage
- EFO01893u83E7I1euUI73 (Sandleaf X2) x1
Produces 177/m Sewage, 120/m Cuprium, 30/m Hetonite Bottle, 30/m Yazhen Powder, 15/m Ferrium Powder, 12/m Heavy Xiranite, 11/m SC Wuling Battery, 7/m Xircon, 6/m Hetonite Part and 6/m Yazhen Syringe [A].
I've stretched mine a bit to make it hit 3 stops
.....
Only core aic changed right?
hope I included all π€
yes
distance maxxing
Ngl, I couldn't deal with the look of those pipes all over
I hate pipes
They just never looks clean because the game randomizes their fucking height
ig i'll accept 5
yeah its optional. all in one is so tight on 512 limit
Three is not that bad, with 4 being trivial
All in core AIC? Is it just for the challenge?
yeah. i havent seen anyone doing it also
Unless you're the same guy I saw someone on reddit do it
any got clue why double inlet outlet only run 2s than 4s? of sewage?
when it can power 8 factory?
Does making bridges in belts makes things go slower?
nope
tables from @/miko
only control port
My acid from test is kinda useless right now, nice seeing someone actually utilize it
Why is there sewage when we can't dump sewage-
splitters and convergers in loops
An IQ too high?
i thought the question is about control item flow rate
Asking the real questions
there's the sewage treatment thing just down the ramp
I know there's treatment.
do you have one with 6/min heto part?
the table with meta ferrium
wdym?
oh... wait i mean one that still doing meta originum, but do 6/min heto part instead
manifold only run 2s like single conduit?
absolute mess of test area piping with main AIC
hrmm wait there simple fix to my 2s problem i just move haft of hetonite im running to marketstone rolls aeay
yeah i think i did 4 which is not too bad
yups
It's pretty clean with the crucibles all in the same area
you either go with 13.5 SC (meta ferrium) or 3.67 LC (meta dense ori) if you wanna keep 30/min heto
i kotice when i when my double got 500 sewage
when it should be empty since its only eating 5 sewage than 8
is it just me or does the new base update feels like you're able to way WAY WAY outpace the stock bills compared to other updates where you're outpacing stock bills by just a bit
i see...
love my factory in the background
ye
i might have misunderstood your question. i understood question based on controlling item flow rate in belts, but shironekomirai answered with control ports, which might be different context on what i understood
nope still ver 1.0 is highest outpacing
like you can save almost 200k bats then full of potion comp lel
before 1.1 came
probably to make it easier for people who don't have organized factories
holy pipelines
oh no, i asked because in one of my builds i need to do a belt bridge in order to reach a machine, but i wanted to know if that would make my belts move items slower in the section where the bridge was
belt bridge doesnt slow down item flow rate. the item still flows normally despite the overlap
Oh, and im using a purification unit that creates water, should i connect the water pipe to my water sistem? or would that clog my build?
just dump it to be safe
water's fine
oh yeah water nvm
but just dump it to be safe
no

How many sprinklers per water pump?
clogging water in facility doesnt change anything. is normal to happen
lol
enough for the entire ecofarm
just do one fluid pump for entire ecofarm, but some do 2
wait, question is sprinklers, not fluid pumps. each sprinkler is 2 plots. ecofarm has 20 plots, so 10 sprinklers
yes
basically infinite. they don't use that much water
all
sadly ...even i min maxer cant find place to put that extra water

all per one 
feed it to sprinkler
wait
dumping water has no power cost
no peasants to farm
clogging the purification unit seems bad
WHERE ECOFARM AUTOMATION

facility limit 
WHERE BURDENBEAST SHIT AUTOMATIC COLLECTION

i want my super ultra deluxe fertilizer automated
i want this
i did use it along with my haft ferium which result in having a tiny extra water when doing 15 sc
burdenbeast patting is only for burdenbeast without clothing
why cant we pat burdenbeast with clothing?
so still have to use pipe control and converge split to wire out the extra small one so i wont clog
maybe cause they allready royalty and wont poop for us XD
All this to one pump?
cant believe they gave us aic asmr
lemme show you
yes
rolls awayadjust mybuild
you can use 1 sprinker per 2plots
wontder when will i reach max limit of factory
saw "factory limit" left and right all the time after test area release
That i saw and put them in such a way

That's what he's doing
i didn't see the other plots
- all originiumbat at main aic
1 pump for all 20 plots
what are you gonna plant there
only 4 plots
ginseng
why
those sprinklers get clogged because they only water every few hours in whole wuling plant cycle
ginseng meatstew
i mean here, the frequency of "factory limit" appear in chat is on the rise
for event or healing?

you can also buy limited food
event
ginseng gives you atk and crit
that looks neat
you don't have to craft it necessarily
helps me trim medals

if i move conduit outside aic it will break right
actually you dont need to plant ginseng to since your ops gives you alot of it
sounds like a π«΅ YOU problem
I wish this guy's aic limit is 256
you dont need fluid tanks
you need a pump and sprinklers
POV:
same for now XD
same... 
again.. sounds like a πΎπ΄πΊ π«΅ problem
your area is empty

This update just wanted to flex the sound department
i have my zips, i have my turrets, i have my ecofarm, i have 12 fots with double SIRcon, double heavy xyranite, 10 refineries, some extra herbs and spice station, a fumo and im barely at 500

mine is a bit seperated, but AI wont get stuck on 2 building
turrets hurt most ... gonna delete everything in monitoring soon

RIP
how many ziplines?
cuz i even needed to remove farm and turrets to be under the limit

did you spam facilities to know yours 
just the deliveries
i can't think of a better way
yes
wish there's a better way
oh
this is mainly to salt @daring rapids
Can i use a single source of water to power 4 cuprium refining?

you need 2 pumps into that water source
i need a worthy opponent
wait, do we have to keep turrets in outpost after beating all the trials?
wait
nah
not in the same place
So i can merge 2 pumps and use it for 4 refining?

yep
Oh ok thanks
is this also same in your v4 bases?

no i havent played with it since 1.1
valley is dead lmaooo
what's ur facility count there
Thx for the help
I see no god up here... other than me ahh build
501
with redundant ziplines
how about main AIC less
this man's existence makes me feel inferior
wuling job market has improved a LOT!
wdym
no AIC only subs
so satisfying to see 119k delivery everywhere
only build outside main AIC
what's subregion facility limit
not enough delivery slaves now, people gettinglazy
sounds like a U π«΅ problem
why are we doing this
have you fixed yoπΊr π«΅ problem of hitting the 512 ?
not me lol i'm still do 3/3
ofc who cares v4 that's wuling
don't have to
I already have everything I needed
flex purposes
4 plots
ziplines ?
turrets yes
people's interest of this game is dwindling likely
zipline yes
not much incentive to do delivery
smh just lazy
me who does all the deliveries for the 20 arsenal tickets
haven't had any delivery jobs to top-left spot in wuling in like a month. am i just lucky or did they remove it?
rip Yan Ning
no more deliveries
wuling delivery jobs got spike because of test area
i think CN people already have done such build. but they arent just here in server or reddit as well
That one turret is Tier 1 just to mess with the guys near the tp
you despicable
they have their own CN version of reddit/discord
imagine optimizing farm to use fewer pylons.
i hope your pillow is warm on both sides at night

426 ig
Their little red book
pipe logistics arent counted in 512
not just me?
ye..
wow that's a lot
I joined a CN group on Meta, no one else doesn't use any sub pac(s)
π time to blast ziplines then
your operators get stuck instead
Y'all say that but I have a tier 1 machine gun turret that has a few thousand repairs
dang i found now my problem why my dounle inlet outlet running 2s seem i got bugged in pipes for doing long one alot section near test area got pipe bugged XD
i can actually make mine ultimate by doing 14.75 SC but reducing my hetonite makes my heart ache
I need to check back on it to see how much it accumulated
it reached 512 when i spam those pipes so i have to switch to spam using hand instead of copy pasting so those pipe logistics should count
ah just go in the back
i mean, we longed for a 240/min full heto usage π
is no heto 15sc?
imma pay respect by giving them 100% rest of the patch 
you have entered the inside of house
14.75sc means you go 15 heto + 6 meds [A] due to ferrium deficit
damnn fences reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

the fences made me so angry...
imma send someone 20 clue 7s

can they update manual transfer
invisible walls
like our invetory from 1.5k to 10k
so we can transfer faster
ok, now reached each limit
same, i want bigger bag

i like the belt pattern ngl
what is dis
flexing their free protocap
animated it looks even better
Doing fine but you need half heto
let me flex the time i spend on 7 xianite XD
i just do full sc0 heto so got no ferium problem since got 60k heto allready anyway
guys how do i create delivery job for other players
get your delivery open quest transfer it
She's oripathy negative
press J to bring up missions, then select the mission and there's a button to transfer it
do note o ly transfer main citdont transfer test area
oh i see that thanks
ppl dont delivery test area lel
can't believe we do logistic without mentioning penguin logistic
1 i sended test area is near expiring
improved my awesome pipe maze (it's not just for show)
my precious 100k T_T
are you trying to pwm sewage?

a small amount, manageable
gotta save sewage 
I mentioned yesterday I needed to route 46/73rds of a sewage line to get exactly 1 line of effluent out of a reactor + the Test Area
73rd?
I tested this pipe maze 3 times and it really does split fluid into 46/73 and 27/73

???
hwo
what that for?
is it simplier just to add water tank near 1 hv from extra eff you got from sewage treatment? then just check next day and claim it?
I'm abstracting 
I built the pipe thing
is there pipe warp from stockage to test area?
#aic-factory message
like this for example
I have seen this somewhere but I can't remember it
if math's too hard. no worries. here's a fangyi photoshoot to keep your mind at ease

there are series of conduits transferring sewage to the test area
no math needed just use bruteforce uwu
are you all in engineer or science field? why everyone is micromanaging
real nices guess i go to stockage tommorow and test 1 by 1 where it can land at tp area the 200
not this but in Minecraft or pixelated game
so can lessen the main aic buildings
really
I have bottled it in 19k bottles
Sleeping chambers
seems this Test Area update has led some players (myself included) to start playing the factory more unhinged
im sorry...
Ferrium bottles is good?
can they make the strips denser 
yes
their patience ran out, on the verge of the insanity
ferrium bottle is good
but using cryston is auraful
@daring rapids @craggy oyster @jovial breach
I have a question. Why do we dump acid back into the acid pool?
context: #aic-factory message
Because um errr 
excess acid
or you can drink it
uhj we dont only some ppl does
because actually trying to reuse it is harder than dumping it back into the pool
it's like that legendary honeycomb sandle huh?
yep

orbital cannon when endmin
Can it be dumped anywhere, or just acid pools?
you may reuse but not reliable
only acid pool
dump it into a series of fluid tank and clear it tmr

or just bottle it
or just pipe it back
Or use it for liquid heavy xiranite
since full heto use 6 + 2 from purification so you dont have extra acid
for 4 just only pipe 3 on pump last one back to other one who got no pump
acid unlimited anyway no point in risk to clog anything
trust the math
same but with tubes XD
and clean with bottle next day

i forgot about the eff from the purification node, gotta fix it tmr
only clog for 10 hrs i can still sell stuff good enough

lol
only thing i hate
why bottle remover needs power why bottle remover just dont destroy the bottle since its get clogged if your stored bottle is full
lol
like tf i still got 30k sewage both my valley and wuling full of empty bottle
we still don't use separation unit in major formulas
I assume we would make use of it in 1.3?
Is there any point to sending the sewage to the purification node? Even if I route almost all my sewage (except for 2, for the Xircon), it doesn't seem to output enough Xircon Effluent for an extra Heavy Xiranite production. On top of that, I always had a surplus of Xiranite anyway, which I can just feed into a crucible to make sure I don't constantly keep caping out on Xiranite and clogging up my Stabilized Carbon productions. So really, is there even a point?
its legendary item along with amethys bottles
like we got muddy ores and put it in to get ore and water
power down
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me.
and you get 1k daily which you can store in bottle
Can Xircon effluent be bottled?
current rate is 6/min xircon effluent
max is 12/min
You could always pipe instead
they inside the bottle
so you were never meant to put 30 sewages in those
uwu
Yeah, but you could pipe from marker to core aic instead of using bottles
i put it there when im fixing some stuff when got error
over time it builded up ahahaha
i mean they are there bedore test area update
and i want them out now but cant since full might able to out onces im done maxing potion and go transfer some juice to empty bottle to make space
I am confused, why does test area have anything to do with bottling of sewage from marker to core?
??? i never done that bottling marker to core lel
i got my 2nd pipe there all the way to test area
hrmm eait..... aminite.... hrmmm
ohh yeah i can just make extra old potion
to empty out my bottles
π€
Parallel lines.
ain't no way
Forced to walk side-by-side without ever meeting.
i mean it
is just linear function
there is only x
-# As opposed to perpendicular lines which only meet once and never see each other again. 
yes
the numbers, what do they mean
3/min LC = 1/min SC in terms of selling for creds but less energy...and resources, but you can continue to squeze them out with maths 
meanwhile what I'm doing 
wolfram alpha
looks like my aic report so I assume it works
reminds me of my college days... π
imagine you need a college degree to play game
why is there sqrt 
Manage to make 12/min SC battery that will not get destroyed if battery full. Only affected by battery is just cuprium cut to half. 
@shadow void improved pipe maze here #aic-factory message 
why is x in endfield
"endfield isn't that hard" mean while the endfield community:
would the purification node in the test area produce enough effluent for 2 lines of heavy xiranite?
you don't need it to do 2 lines of heavy xiranite
it's enough for 1/5 heavy xiranite
i feel so old now i dont remember factory was this simple before
algebra has always been present in endfield
pepega build for newbie factory players
to extract from quadratic equations
So... is the purification node just interesting if we feed everything into depot and might be able to save one or two xiranite in liquid xiranite production?
okay but why do we have quadratic equation
think of it as power saving tool
almost 4 months ago tho
If you want to produce 2 lines of HX and utilize the output from the test area then you gotta do some funky math since holding back some sewage to make effluent also affects the rate it's recycled at the test area
just omage that short 4 months from simple 1 is to 1
purification node feels incomplete now because our raw sources are still capped. there are also acid pools inside test area, so it might be used in future patches
you think I listen to the math? just let it clog
to freaking massive struction just to get 1 pc
the 512 deployment limit is killing me. what's the point of having a limited area if you cant fill it in. also i need help. what lines are you guys producing in core wuling aic? my jingyu is plants while hetonite is in marker stone
the math is just for fun
I know I could let it clog, but that's not fun 
hum... that just makes me wonder wether I should be more excited for Mifu in the update or possible use of test area XD
common equation used to find unknown number/s with given/known numbers
yeah first 2 patch were tutorial ngl
well there's either a sqrt or there's a x/73 there's no practical way to do either of those
so clog it is
I did though
yippee clog
you're impractical
clog my goat
if air pipes exists, it's gonna be toilsome
i want air pipe
make its 1k lemght
There's your x/73
that will exist in future, because they already reveal pipe usage in description
instead of air pipe
dam
but I think if it gonna in pipe it's kinda useless
yeah i saw that
what if dev intruducing leak in pipe with long length instead
remind me we got week left

before next suffering
wtf fraction is that
was there an announcement that we'll get new update then?
common problem will become "why is the liquid entering my gas pipes?!"
plz no aedra
At least I hope air pipes are elevated from water pipes
all my piping i did to transfer sewage gonna suffer
46/73
introduing pipe leak for 50m or longer pipe, starting with 10% chance max at 50%

where do you do that?
anyways I'm not holding back any sewage so idk what the number is
no annoucment needed just check bp pass onces that expire its patch day
reminds me of 'Surviving mars'
so we make bots to surveil it daily
At my AIC
what in the god damn
imagine this in exams
i mean, what purpose for that?
What are you even bottling then?
I needed 46/73rds to go into one thing and the remaining 27/73rds to go in another

due to constant exposure to rain the pipes are gruadually eroded and the juntions rusty
it's kinda stupid for ores can be wifi transfered but there's no AI or robot
its old sewage before test area from all fixing i did in factory making
with chen trying to help fixing it and make it worse

"this operator cannot fix pipes" - tang tang, chen

+endmin
what about dapan

will he fix it or turn it to soupline
noodle line
panda hotpot express
don't look down on bro like that
during describing all I found a mistake so:
Heavy Xir X2 : -60 (Xircon)
Xircon from Sewage: 1/30 *(
+ 240 (Cuprium x8)
- 75 (SC 15/min)
- x (not used sewage in Xircin prod)
+ 15 Heto 3/min
)
Puri Unit : 30*(
+ 1 (1 100% puri unit)
+ (60 - x)/120 (second Puri unit where happen some clogging)
)
clogging Xircon prod: 30-x
dapan is actually smart, he's a graduate from the academy
connecting pipe those hotpot sending it straight to test site
bro is an engineer
but dapan doesn't wear pants..
i dont understand these numbers

at least dapan got cool glasses
i think its a requirement to be smart
Im going to remove my pants now
wow uh e=mc squared
nah to be smart all you have to do
became npc
so you can force endminsss to work for ya
smart people dont give discount
lad gonna turn it into cancer pipe
liquid originium
honestly
So you never treated it? Just stockpiled it back then?
only one with environment awareness
back to test site, i still don't understand why they have 3 purification node rather than 2 or 4
i trest it it got stocked up so much from trial and error in piping
child of originium can make some
do they intend to make conduit with 3 pipes next..
you mean sewage treatment node?
yeah
they should instead changes it lenght to 1k
if we drag another conduit, we will use manifold anyway, which is 4/s, but with 1 purification left can only treat 2/s
Splitter has 3 ports converger has 3 ports so most of them has 3 ports
for future i guess, right now we only use 2 port
maybe they thought it will be funny to drag 3 conduits from markerstone to test area
Surely a 3 pipe manifold would also have longer distance
just wish so
but it's too soon
2fold same 200
maybe in next region
noooo
I wish treatment unit just teleport all sewage. to puri node
maybe when we make plasma shits
it's funny that we have 12 sewage input with like around 7 output at best
cancer lights
damn we shooting radiation now ?
I thought they would at during live stream but it wasn't
Eh, if sewage able to processed by purification, what would result be...
yeah deadly cancer beam
there's probably something we'll have to do with acid in the future, since why is there so much acid pools in test area
a trash bag who can less your jp10% when eaten
or its just decor...
jp =hp
I suspect new area will be top left of test area
i think its decor since named test area
so they tested acid
was new area
behidn the china wall?
since fangyi said we be going north next zone
at this point i just want something complicated

like real complicated
this is just too tame
hum, now i am thinking, make more hetonite or wait to see if everything will have to be moved to the next AIC plot
is h v sc combo not complicated enough.?
could shredding/refining units get upgraded and make 2 different formulas in one expanded shredding/ refining unit
Do the math with Test Area 
The math awaits
it's not quantum tier enough
my production clear it so im all good
i want a full on 10 stage production line
also, in the bottom of qingbo stockade, there's a gate with a guy saying something like something being beyond it
on top of that just to the right there's a cliff thats "technically" outside the qingbo stockade, as you get the title of the place once you go back away from it
my factory picture, out of context
with gas, liquid and solid
high math might be too much. space station 13 atmospheric technician or plasma scientist level would be enough
damn we manual now ?

Zhuang Fangyi's work desk is typing

okay the sqrt is gone I fixed the mistake crisis averted
1 hv sc combo is 7 forge 21 planter 14 seeder 18 refiner 16shredder12 grinder 4 big cru is that not complicated enough ? dint include pump and battery making
but now the fraction is /238
chen is a bodyguard. all she needs is muzzle
wait box now give 10 sc a pop? now that is huge
wait a minute, you could get hetonite comp? i havent encountered that yet
hetonite comp to rare
test area boxes do give them
damn we smashing boxes now ?
i just unlocked hetonite stuff can anyone direct me to a blue print i can use to setup that factory stuff
do i have to unlock hetonite comp first before i could get heto comp in boxes?
Guess we just destroy the box instead of-
unlocked at development 15
i have smashed boxes in test area, no heto comp
havent reached rdl15 yet
ig it has some requirements
havent seen them before rdl 15
what about now?
last time i get enough 50 heto comp from boxess maybe you dont do it enough ? are you bookmarking esp the place with lot of box?

nope i only did 1 whole area swipe while lotting chest since omly doing chest ory onces
i got 100 heto comp before from this all
but if you are producing 15 SC
there wouldn't be enough DOP isn't it
did you marked all boxes in map?
yes but tbh i just visit the box thats is 3 above rest of them is just for when i am near when exploring like "might as well"
considering how much cuprium we mine, is it enough to make a stable 6 hetonite gears a minute?
thats true but i have some ori cubes so i can do 15/min for 8 days so why not
after that it will auto balance to 14.75
oh shit i forgot my wxploration lv is 1
heto comp need hxira
oh wait
all cuprium its just enough for 30 heto per min soo
i meant.. parts..
does anyone have a screenshot of max regional development for wuling? i wanna compare and see what im lacking in thank you
yes, but it will limit SC battery at 12, because we have only 90 ferrium
short box run
yes correct
wooden box?
is there a good way to take a screenshot from top view? is there anyway to hide the mission, map, andd all the suff?
yes, 6 per min is possible, but only if you make 12 SC battery
sadly no, best way is to press X to hide some UI
good enough ig
need some manual transfer ferrium ore once like 3 days, and meta transfer DOP
my masterpiece of abomination
yeah I saw that
yes, that's possible.
but I wouldn't bother doing that unless we can sell more item for stock
oh no... is that buckflower 
that i totally agree...clogging is my next issue lol
someone tell someone
i realized too late that you can use sandleaf

and i dont wanna bother changing it
wuling plants yield 2x more carbon
from where?
no, in the long run you will run out heto parts and speed drop to 3/m
this is assuming you have 12 /m heavy xiranite.
heto comp require 12/m heto part and 12/m heavy xira.
orange one for SC 14.75/min
from wuling?
need to make once before forumla is out
fluid mode of the planting unit
yazhen and jincao turn into 2x carbon. (either to powder or block)
why this looks like sat math calculator
welcome to another 3 hrs of hell design
wat?
the plants you see
turn into more carbon
than buckflower or sandleaf
remind me about what is this graph is about?
this is desmos
https://www.desmos.com/calculator
yes, from where
what do you meaannn
its exactly the same as turning buckflower into carbon
Xircon balancing
there is no wuling plant
wait so x is sewage sent to wall yeah?
shove plant into shreder
how to do X square
ah well
lol then microsoft math calc also must use this right
the factory works well enough
you unlock recipe when you feed plant in facility
ok. see you when you ran out of space or power
must be just similar design
you need to trigger the formul by putting jincao / yanzhen into refining unit
the only thing its missing is if i want to recycle xircon effluent for exccess scw battery
and i dont wanna bother with it
i was wondering why people are using so much water
and im max effeciency on bills anyway
carbon things mostly use for xiranite only. Best option for spacing. But if spacing is ok, all good. 
already have enough power
that graph shows that you burn more than 2 batteries. that means selling less batteries
damn it, why isnt it auto unlocked
don't bother they have enough bill generation
first step:
ye, but i have enough bill generation
chen main
can you explain more,
what is first 30-x
and (30 + 30 -x )/4
and that long formula
and what is 60*(60/120) and (55/120) : I assum this is xircon production
what do you mean by first step
how many steps are there?
isn't this first 100 steps
how many do you want?)
draw a horse
add horn
unicorn
Wonder if we get more sub aic next patch. if not, gonna make tangtang farm from 6 to 7 xiranite farm. Just to make space for 18/min SC wuling battery. If we get more originium ore 
what is it even for?
we should be
there should be 3 sub aic no?
draw unicorn
remove horn
horse
yes
I think 1.3 would have a more vertical aic update than horizontal
make a 3d factory
Space upgrade?
with gilberta help
gilberta is too busy posing for camera
HC wuling battery? Feel kinda to early for that 
A: reactor output (it will clog)
B: Puri from clogged and from 1 100%
C: Sewage converted to Xircon
D: can take (based on ferium input or clogged by Xircon rocks)
i mean the outpost is still level 3, so its possible
might be, but the possibility is still there
HC wuling battery but use less originium ore 
who knows?
HC battery will probably take 1/2-1/1.5 of the core AIC area
or just the entirety of it
alright got it now,
so it's more efficien't, but has to use extra resource
given that they're likely to give HCW either 4800 or 6400
then it's likely be at least 1.5x or 2x as complex as SCW
if this means more protocol cap
I'm all for it
I think that should come with new aic tho
it gives you some Xiranite to sell (cuz reactor clog and dont use Xiranite)
current products are taking way too much space
i expect 1.3 will give us another aic and new set of syringes and batteries tbh
we are doing good cuz of squashing them
if it replaces SCW production, even partially, then it's totally fine without a new outpost
yeah something major path after small patch
but isnt the syringes already at [a]?
its a mistranslation in english version
they are [b] actually
syringe S formula
I need to migrate some structures out of core AIC due to the 512 placement limit being annoying
I hope they raise it
in ch version there are no a,b,c markers, its I II II
really? could you send the evidence?
red grade products
well, i hope the recipe use little hetonite, or we get more cuprium
another 240 cuprium possible in next 2 patches
than maybe you will be interested in my factory layout 
#aic-factory message
i mean... hetonite bottle exist 
ye, the new syringe and battery probbably will use hetonite
cryston bottles exists but for decoration
0 sanity activity
meanwhile A version is like this
reserve for la fatoma map i think. 
buckflower and meds out of it in russian sounds so funny
if you know what Π³ΡΠ΅ΡΠΊΠ° means
and 90 lvl red gears with air expansio
i mean, unless they introduce another material or if they want us to just use more xiranite its probbably hetonite
wtf hha
In my conclusion, hetonite is cryston of wuling I just can't prove it
not the vietnamis tooπ₯
i'll be happy if it is something easir or at least more compact than hetonite
if someone wants a bit of nightmares, here you go
i maxed out pipes on this outpost.
@solid quiver we straight ass called copium "copper"
copper update?
i call it "Le Hwat the F*ck" (don't know if swearing is allowed here)
i feel like its the steel tbh
it looks way plastic than steel
it's our translation of copium and hetonite
hetonite is actually just pure copper
maybe carbon fiber
cupirum is impure copper
the steel of wuling i meant
also, one question, how many cuprium refineries could be done on 12th regional development somebody knows?
you have space huh?
if only i knew that you can use wuling plant
for carbon
it would look so much better
i think you get 180 ore max, so 6
Were these 2 pools the only source of Sewage? do we not get an infinite source of Effluent from this area?
we dont, you need to pipe it from your bases
240, so thats 8
that would be insane if we do got infinite effluent
just enough for hetonite...
at 12h level
OH
I just did the piping for effluent to my base you're saying i need to do that again for Sewage from my base to here 
isnt it a little bit more than 6 because last update i got 6, and there is 2 more cuprium veins in test area?
you dont have to if you dont want to
the question was also, one question, how many cuprium refineries could be done on 12th regional development somebody knows?
dam, so i'm using all. sigh
and isnt the conversion 30 sewage to 1?
I mean yeah lol but i though they would give us something better than 200m for this
just continue with the story and upgrade, you can get that done in like 2 hrs
hmmm
well, i did all story, i need to raise the regional development
you just need to lv to 14 to start full production
funfact i'm using aic almost purely for xiranite, i have like, 5 selfsufficient forges there
funny
they fixed the map
now i cant get there or take it back
click on each map on top right for key mission and gathering tip
well, i'm on 12th so guess i missed something, most likely new area
they remade whole building as part of 1.2 upgrade, so thats probably why
perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Try use wuling plant for carbon, it produce 2 carbon 
demn just like me
using valley plant
for carbon
terrible mistake
is this the time to use battery on my mortars
i really didn't want to shit around the pipes so i'll think about remaking, but don't think i'll change it
dunno
i was in too deep to change it
you can look for blueprints in the blueprint sections
thank god there is a limit for bills exchange, i dont have to minmax my factory that much
i make 7 forge for xiranite in sub aic jingyu valley 
this is the definition of biblical greed
where are you using all of it?
Using wuling plant for carbon can save space, Like this 6 xiranite forges in tangtang farm. Can even fit in 7 forges but a bit complex on space.
what you mean ? its peak laziness i just use bluprint although the bluprint only work in eu server so i need to remake it 1 by 1 from pictutre
bruh, i use tangtang place for originium grinding
8 forges at my core take roughly half of space. not efficient but pretty
all 10 forge in core aic
now to second problem
how the fuck do i fit in the last 2 forge
yeah i use them all infact i even\need to lower my usage using this belt to output 10/min xira
how do u guys optimize your xircon production?
i know i need to use expand crucible but how?
example. 1 of many
do you know that core aic shares 512 facility limit wth the map? because of that i had to move 7 of my forge making xira to tang tang sub aic
what does that mean?
from 6 crucible to 4 extended crucible with bonus 6/min hxira 
like even include inside area build?????
yes
wtf
there a limit of facility that can stays in wuling city sub map including zipline and electric tower/ phylon, and miner
I did manage to cram 10 fots into core aic

it counts all things, even belt logistic buildings
only belts themselves are excluded (they have separate limit)
yah before i realize i only have 2 more facility limit
guess what I spent that last two on ziplines


THERES BELT LIMIT????????
so i just move 7 of them to tang tang aic
ye
yes
i feel like my xircon is HIGH rn
sometimes it's 0/min yield, sometimes 30/min, sometimes it's 60/min and sometimes it's even 90/min and 120/min
WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND LIMIT THOSE
there is but i have not see anyone ever hit it by building factory, only be spamming 1 tile long belts to see if there is a limit
belt logistic to be precise, actual belt dont count
ask dev not us
so ye in theory theres a limit, in practice it doesnt really matter
isnt belt count as 1 as long its not interupted?
i dont think so
not sure
i think its like 1024 or so, but what exactly it counts no idea
pipe limit is only like 96 tho, and you can easily hit it building anything remotely complex
someone made this before
credit to whoever made it
Oh didn't know belt also had max length
How many Xiranite factories can the current version of the game support?
Just need a baseline so I can rework my whole factory
Yeah, but you can use Control Port to extend it
Currently people are running 10-2 setup, 10 xiranite forge and 2 heavy xiranite forge
12 forge of the sky
10 for normal xiranite the other 2 heavy
This needs to be increased... at least by 25-50%, I run into the first limit in Core AIC Area all the time :/
Thanks guys!
note that those limits are lower in outposts
how do i know am about to hit limit? or do i have to screw around enough for it to show up?
yeah the limits are annoying, we try to hard to condense it, then left with all the free space...
The latter afaik
you can put bunch of splitters in a square until you hit the limit
so you can gauge how far you are
Zips and pylons should have their own limits and not count towards those 512 imho
sheet
i shove in all 10 forge in main aic including plant production
it also make my aic piping magical for some reason 
im probably very close to hit the wall now
those limits should just be raised like 3-4 times
its a bad design we can hit them while doing normal bases
also this isnt completely correct, the pipe logistics 128 limit also counts continous pipe groups
I mean I get it why they have limits in the first place, the calculations that have to run for all players server side must be insane, but at the same time they could afford to pump the limits 1.5-2x for sure..
so connecting two forges is -2 pipe logistics
its fine to have sanity limit, but they shouldnt be hittable doing normal stuff
i hit the limit in both valley 4 and wuling and i wasnt even building some super complex stuff
wuling core aic cant really be filled completely because the limit is so low
is it in valley pass? they limit it so much for some reason
I would definitely be interested to see how their server infra is structured but with all the money from players, they can afford to beef up
I beg to differ
me when i can
if you built an unoptimized setup like I did 
both in outposts (its only 256) and in core (its 768), i actually had to take down bunch of power lines to puzzle unlocks because i hit the limit
i only hit limit in valley pass tbh
Limits are one thing, but overflow logistics module would be soooooo nice
just do it
this suppose to be what each AIC is like, the factory must grow







