aic-factory

[autumn maple]

After the region lv up to 3, should be better.

before that, they are poor

[valid gazelle]

can last you 100+ runs with mortars

[buoyant patrol]

nice👍

[valid gazelle]

i put a stack in each.. dont have to worry about them again

[scenic mesa]

Yea i hope so, my valley 4 still have bunch of item, and i already use operator for help with bill rate, maxed tower defen

[uneven aspen]

it was annoying with older towers having small attack ranges

But with mortars having very big range it's just place and put batteries and forget

[solid quiver]

if it only shoot like 4 per day one stack could last 18 years

assuming it costs 100 per shot

[craggy oyster]

if one of the conduit is within the base area, it will stay connected even when it more than 200m.

[uneven aspen]

my markerstone towers are on the 2nd battery since the 1.2 update until test area

i mostly only do essence farm

[buoyant patrol]

after one fight

[solid quiver]

oh wait I miscalculated It hought one bat is worth 54k power

[buoyant patrol]

soo that is 7600 run

ok those things never have to be loaded againXD

[daring rapids]

do enemies sometimes knock batteries out of facilities?

[buoyant patrol]

i don't think so

[solid quiver]

just stuns them i think

[daring rapids]

I noticed one of my turrets suddenly lost power when farming essence

[limpid pawn]

r u suppose to use 6 sewage pipe for the 3 purification inlet

[daring rapids]

and I'm pretty sure I put batteries in there

[limpid pawn]

from cuprium production

[solid quiver]

manifold is better

[limpid pawn]

what

[solid quiver]

connect 6-12 lines of sewage to manifold

then go

[limpid pawn]

[quartz pagoda]

isnt it 8?

like 4/s, half for each pipe

[daring rapids]

condense everything into manifold

[limpid pawn]

wth is manifold

[bright zodiac]

conduit²

[solid quiver]

yeah 8 for a single manifold

[limpid pawn]

also

[limpid pawn]

can 1 sewage pipe feed 2 sc wuling batt factory

[daring rapids]

how do one gets 12 lines of sewage?

[solid quiver]

wtf is this supposed to do

[uneven aspen]

its just sewage to manifold

[solid quiver]

from future update?

[limpid pawn]

im talking about purify node

[bright zodiac]

idk what you mean but

1 Cuprium sewage line for 30/m xiecon

multiple it by 2 for 60

[daring rapids]

guh

[quartz pagoda]

but what if, instead of having 1 conduit for each pipe, you fuse the pipes along the way and use 2 conduits... or a manifold

[static isle]

welp
finally fucked around and did it

[solid quiver]

it's not that worth

[limpid pawn]

so 1 sewage pipe is a must for 6/m batt

[bright zodiac]

yes

[limpid pawn]

that leaves 6 pipes.

[uneven aspen]

less modular, need to pair 2 cuprium per production then

[limpid pawn]

all to purify node

[uneven aspen]

idm 1 conduit per 1 sewage

[quartz pagoda]

i got and build her and... guys can you even ult or stack swords? enemies die so fast that i cant cast her skill on the electrified enemy cuz her combo already killed it, so i have no swords

[limpid pawn]

why is this a thing

[bright zodiac]

does the fluid tank even necessary

[tall tangle]

wym?

[tall tangle]

for switch setup, yes

[bright zodiac]

[tall tangle]

like this

[limpid pawn]

i ahte protocol space limit

[quartz pagoda]

i see
i used to make everythign modular but this time i just went crazy and did just what works

[limpid pawn]

now i have to put the cuprium product line in jingyu valley

and conduit highway to the purify node

[uneven aspen]

got all 3 delivery npc mail done

test area deliveries with zipline is very good, no close teleports

[robust grove]

how are ppl jumping the gap between monitoring center and the test area?

[solid quiver]

One stack of purple battery sustains a mortar for 9 years if only do 1 run everyday

[solid quiver]

zipline or bug i think

[bright zodiac]

<220m teleport

or... zipline checkpoint tech

[uneven aspen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1tdnnhe/how_to_use_the_purification_node/

i have a video of it here. Just don't use rossi

[ancient charm]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[uneven aspen]

rossi too small in height to get back more distance after teleporting

a good few people pointed out 😔 use someone taller

oh yeah around 1:25 in the video when the telport is done

[static isle]

prio order for these three go purifier -> outlet (test site) -> crucible right?

[solid quiver]

with wsc bat this multiplied by 3

[subtle finch]

algo was just mentioning excel solver a while back, im guessing that was it?
i havent tried it yet

[final sierra]

sadly they do

[robust grove]

oh I'm placing the thing at the wrong spot I guess

[limpid pawn]

this thing need 30/s sewage to make effluent efficiently

[tall tangle]

yes (it cant)

[uneven aspen]

Based off the test area, I think they will add more sewage purification nodes in the future

[limpid pawn]

and 240/m cuprium rn give 8 sewage pipes which is equal to 16/s

and u alr used 2 for the battery so its only 12/s

[uneven aspen]

hetonite produces sewage too

[limpid pawn]

acidd

[jovial breach]

Math is not mathing

[robust grove]

16?

[limpid pawn]

how much is 1 sewage pipe

[meager stream]

brain isnt braining

[jovial breach]

1 refinery is 0.5 sewage

So 8 is 4 sewage per sec

[uneven aspen]

the floorplan makes me think 4x nodes will be added.

but the npc upgrade says 4/4 MAX so maybenot

[tall tangle]

yet again. this is (impossible) maximum

and it's poop

[limpid pawn]

its ass

[meager stream]

30 sewage just for a xircon efluent & you still connect them to main pac, very nuice 💀

[tall tangle]

<0.5 sec is literally nothing

[thorny galleon]

..Cuprium needs acid to mine, right? Where do I get acid in the testing area?

[vast iron]

copium xd

[jovial breach]

0.2 effluent per sec

[swift niche]

you use water to mine them

also there are infinite acid pools in testing area

[meager stream]

brain isnt braining xD

[thorny galleon]

Oh!
Wait, what am I thinking of that needs acid

[bright zodiac]

i expect more about how we could access purif node better.

• mega conduit with 400m
• better route or near subpac
• they added some kind of liquid depot that can be access of any aic to take or send liquid
  *or anything else that makes sense

[swift niche]

probably Liquid Cuprium, it needs cuprium powder + acid in the Crucible to be made

[thorny galleon]

Ohhhh
Thank you!

[limpid pawn]

lemonade pool

[bright zodiac]

yeah,thats why we need mega conduit

with quad hole

[jovial breach]

More holes=better

[bright zodiac]

[meager stream]

haha i skip dat one, not worthed for me, much better purification unit

[robust grove]

Oh I should not be using rossi for this, hitbox too smol

[limpid pawn]

does it merge if i connect double conduit to a singular one

[bright zodiac]

just 400m conduit mk2 cpuld already makes life easier tbh

[tall tangle]

it's just 1 normal outlet + 1 manifold. not that hard to pipe

[limpid pawn]

nah add more ferrium

whats the point of 2 low purity originium rig in test area

inefficient xira comp?

[tall tangle]

all i want is good hcw recipe. resource changes wont make me happy

[vast iron]

let us hope we do not regret it

[meager stream]

why wuling region is jumbo maps but lack of mining spots aaaaaa....fuuakh dev hg

[limpid pawn]

instead of using wuling battery why dont they give us option about hydro power

like the water wheel or smth

[tall tangle]

because everyone is brain rotten

[vast iron]

it would be a shame IF WE ALREADY HAD WATERWHEEL INFRASTRUCTURE

OH WAIT WE DO

[robust grove]

what in the nihm

[jovial breach]

Wulingers when they see fundamental physics

[limpid pawn]

but wulingers still use batttery for power

[tall tangle]

magic rock cancer battery yes

[bright zodiac]

endmin be like

splitter the WULING power cable, and into core aic thermal bank or relay into PAC

stealing power from citizen

[vast iron]

heck, why shouldnt we use cancer batteries

[limpid pawn]

bet every upcoming regions gonna get its own lc/sc/hc battery variant

[vast iron]

for sure

at some point they gonna need to make bigger aic areas i hope

otherwise battery scaling gonna be wonk compared to power consumption

[limpid pawn]

this is like

[limpid pawn]

why farming chicken meat yourself when u can buy industrial chicken

[vast iron]

shh, dont tell them

wink

[meager stream]

i need much originium & cuprium minings aaaaaaa

[meager stream]

hmm priestess ya, i found something interesting xD

[limpid pawn]

cuprium is copper

[vast iron]

but is it?

it would have some interesting implications

[robust grove]

holy jumpscare

[final sierra]

there's still a lot of space if use sub AIC

[limpid pawn]

you see

[meager stream]

https://youtu.be/kPP-RVdjjjM?si=csTamADojHLEOYKX

[limpid pawn]

copper is Cu in the periodic table

and guess what CUprium

🤓

[vast iron]

haha...

[dreamy jungle]

ye to add this

[uneven aspen]

2nd outpost not having autodefence to do

even though the outpost quest have enemies attacking them

[vast iron]

jincao solution is carbonated

we are feeding the civilians copper

[uneven aspen]

even though we been getting new towers every update

[tall tangle]

arkn physics and chemistry are working differently. otherwise gunpowder worked, but it wont

[atomic fiber]

finally done with this version

[limpid pawn]

mid

[atomic fiber]

eh... it's normal ratio

[limpid pawn]

i dont think xiranite is normal

[ancient turtle]

hello! can i haz just heavy xiranite bp? just to clear test area

[muted tartan]

guys i have jingue valley empty what can i make there? i dont really have much option on using any minerals as they are all being used up

[vast iron]

i think im going crazy

prio splitters are leaking

[final sierra]

17 hours till problems :)

[bright zodiac]

did you use full bottle 30/m effluent?

[limpid pawn]

ur factory is not efficient

[bright zodiac]

👌

[limpid pawn]

if the AIC factory space isnt full

[muted tartan]

i think its good enough for now

[lofty lodge]

hmm, using LC wuling battery as power supply. Output very small but it will not kill factory if everything clogged or full. SC battery , Heavy xira and hetonite part as sellable goods.

[atomic fiber]

it what everyone do, since you can't do heavy and normal xiranite in 1 forge. so I'm on burning phase now, later i will change that to normal xiranite

[atomic fiber]

i don't use bottle at all, wdym 30/min effluent?

[bright zodiac]

rip unused skyforge

[muted tartan]

i found crafting both battery is better to farm bills then farming the syringe

[bright zodiac]

you are in burn phase, i have storing phase and when i burn, i dont use 30/m xiranite to make 30/m effluent

[brazen vortex]

OK, just to confirm... am I supposed to bring the sewage from my cuprium makers all the way here?

[muted tartan]

why bother

[brazen vortex]

Welp, time to get to work.

[green sleet]

The great pipeline begins

[robust grove]

imho, optional cuz the returns aren't good rn. wait for next patch

[lofty lodge]

yeh... maybe i try convert 1 forge as heavy.

[tall tangle]

not so great. just 1 manifold

[final sierra]

yes :)
#aic-factory message

[brazen vortex]

You guys know these exist, right?

[tall tangle]

do the math. only reason to do it really is to save power on treatment

[brazen vortex]

Like damn, some of y'all are crazy.

[green sleet]

Im only saying "great" cause we gotta pump that shis across the map lol

[final sierra]

yes I just wanted to do pipes :)))))

[atomic fiber]

oh... i see... i don't have storing phase... eh... it can work

[brazen vortex]

So you're saying it's not worth making another batch of Heavy Xiranite?

[bright zodiac]

u dont even use that

use manifold

[tall tangle]

if you can manage it with ~0.1/sec, sure

[brazen vortex]

But there's 3.

[green sleet]

Fully upgraded, 1 of them can handle 4 inputs worth of sewage

[brazen vortex]

Oh nice.

[rare moon]

Its free xiranite

[river wadi]

At the cost of protocol capacity

[final sierra]

or pipe logistics limits :)
#aic-factory message

[rare moon]

Just a few if you optimize it

[tall tangle]

zipline tourists, bridge lovers and pylon-turret users are in shambles

[rare moon]

This is how much space i had left

[river wadi]

unfortunately i dont have enough space in my aic for that

[fathom grotto]

what do yall use the forges for legit
I can spend like 4 forges on battery and thats it

theres not enough originium for me to make the 3rd battery unit

[green sleet]

Heavy xira and xira

[fathom grotto]

what to use heavy xira for

[river wadi]

Sell

[fathom grotto]

oh wtf you can sell it?

[river wadi]

yea

[green sleet]

Heavy is used in Hetonite Component production

[tall tangle]

or sell yes

[fathom grotto]

im guessing i can sell heavy xiranite in the new outpost

[river wadi]

yea

[rare moon]

liquid

[fathom grotto]

only when i max out the level

[rare moon]

Have to max hxira in every kind of bottle

[tall tangle]

they buy it on lvl2

[final sierra]

you can do half unit ( 200% + 45.83% of unit with ori cubes transfer)

[fathom grotto]

im probably not gonna

[buoyant patrol]

---------over-production for sell-------------------
xiranite > 1 * 5 = 5
heavy xiranite > 27 * 11 = 297
hetonite part > 48 * 2,5 = 120
SC battery > 54 * 11,3766 = 614,3364
Yazhen Syringe (A) > 22 * 5 = 110
---------money gain--------------------------------
1146,3364/minute > 68780,184/hour
---------gear production rate----------------------
all 3 gear is: 0.5/min
---------used minerals/resources--yield/usage----
originium ore 540/540
ferrium ore 90/90
cuprium ore 240/240
xiranite 300/295
dense originium powder(from V4) 25/25
heavy xiranite 12/1
hetonite part 3,5/1
SC battery 14,5/3,1234

i don't know how good is it, but i'm happy

[fathom grotto]

i only have 8 inputs of culprium
Half of it i spend on making hetonite and the other half on pills
Hetonite is not in full efficiency if i do it this way right

theres no other way for me, either full hetonite or half hetonite + pills

[tall tangle]

75% 25% is possible

but why?

[buoyant patrol]

i planned everything around that 90 ferrium ore, and 25 extra dense orifinium powder from meta storage

[uncut briar]

its fine to go half heto and full meds A

[swift niche]

Whats the Wuling max Ori Ore yield? 520/min?

[buoyant patrol]

that will be 5/12 belt to xircum, and 7/12 belt to heptonite, so 140 cuprium, and the last 100 goes to pills(-5 for gear)

if that helps

[rare moon]

Im doing half heto, full syringe, 2.75/min more sc bat

[swift niche]

does it mean that after 2 SC Wuling Batteries, I only have 40/min worth of Ori ore to play with? Thats scuffed, why they made this not be a number divisible by 30 smh

[buoyant patrol]

540

[swift niche]

okay gotchya, dunno why but my theoritical data shows 520/min for Wuling

[jovial breach]

You're missing new spot?

[radiant bluff]

hm

[swift niche]

okay I found the reason my Jingyu Valley stuff got their electricity cut off

I must've removed some important pillar by accident

[green sleet]

Got that bluetooth water transfer system

[uncut briar]

you moved your pac, and some relay got their distance recalculate

[jovial breach]

Nothing wrong here, totally normal

[marble yarrow]

beat this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1505177830240026656/Endfield_2026-05-16_19-58-45.mp4?ex=6a09ad97&is=6a085c17&hm=57166c787909ac7b53cee677d7ab7320523628bbda25a3ba0b0a0f82631b1ba8&

[swift niche]

aight fixed it and its 540/min again. My base setup is 2 SC Batteries, full 6/min Heto parts. What can I do with my leftover resources?

0.25 SC batteries?

[dry junco]

Yo can i just use one water pump to supply an entire sprinkler farms worth of water or does each sprinkling unit have an optimal minimum of water supply

[green sleet]

1 pump should suffice

[uncut briar]

quest , talk to perlica 392m

but perlica is next to you

[green sleet]

Maybe put a tank to buffer some extra water as well

[swift niche]

the Conduit outlet Manifold, does each of the output pipes only have 1unit/s liquid output rate?

[uneven aspen]

Pipes move 2/s

Manfiold transfer 4/s

[static isle]

horizontally challenged yazhen setup I made

[jovial breach]

1.5/min yazhen c

[atomic fiber]

normal xiranite phase chart

[static isle]

ye bc I'm only doing 120/m heto

[jovial breach]

My xiranite is 283-284/min

[buoyant patrol]

u can try to put that extra ferrium into battery production, worth more money

[static isle]

I did
xfer ferrium = 115/min

13.5 scw + 1.5 yaz C

[tribal crescent]

meta ferrium

[fathom grotto]

hypergryph after they give us a WHOLE ASS 2 NEW ORIGINIUM ORE VEINS

wow so much

[tribal crescent]

is a lot

[fathom grotto]

legit how the hell do i even use it

[buoyant patrol]

i only use 90 ferrium, and that gives 14.5 scw, try metatransfer dense originium powder

[tribal crescent]

30 dense originium cube/min

so you get to make more batt

or uh

more xira comps

[fathom grotto]

but its not a full battery unit

[tribal crescent]

a quarter more is still a quarter more

[atomic fiber]

did you use the effluent from the test area? also i also put all my sewage to test area, so no treatment unit at all

[static isle]

so ur not making any heto stuff?

[tribal crescent]

half heto

[uneven aspen]

my sewage to conduit manifold was very slowly clogging over time(2 of them were at 300)

had to reorganize it idk why it working fine now

[jovial breach]

Yep that gives me like 5 effluent per min

[static isle]

yeah
half heto + 12 sc is 75/min fer

[tribal crescent]

the other half for more battery

[atomic fiber]

wait how are yours 5, my calculation is 7/min effluent

[buoyant patrol]

of course i make 3.5/min

[jovial breach]

Just rough estimation, probably more than 5

[atomic fiber]

i see...

[tribal crescent]

is eff from the puri node created instantenously

or does it take like

5s

to make

[jovial breach]

Instant

[tribal crescent]

damn real high tech

[jovial breach]

You're only limited by input

[buoyant patrol]

i put 72.5 ferrium into xircon for 14.5scw, and 17.5 ferrium into hepto part

[tribal crescent]

17.5

[celest helm]

can someone help me, I feel super dumb and confused

[vapid granite]

when did the third one unlock

[tribal crescent]

test area update

[jovial breach]

Since 14th

[celest helm]

why is my refining/filling units like this

I cant feed it solid stuff

there is no belt input

[tribal crescent]

one is uh

it's outside the aic area

idk what you expected

2nd it is on liquid mode

[vapid granite]

cant build outside the yellow line or it locks out

[tribal crescent]

so uh

[celest helm]

:O

[jovial breach]

1st, you can switch between liquid and solid
2nd, you placed it outside aic

[celest helm]

okook

this... will be tricky

but ty

[vapid granite]

ok

[static isle]

hmm
can you use big ass facs as blockers on essence farm nodes

[vapid granite]

idk wym

[tribal crescent]

for wuling just use the pipe facilities

[fathom grotto]

im producing more xiranite than im using them for my endgame output

cant find a use for it ngl

[static isle]

like use them to bodyblock mobs from exiting range
then you can just bombard them

[tribal crescent]

[vapid granite]

time to give it for some dollar bills

[fathom grotto]

hell yeah

[tribal crescent]

they phase through the facilities btw

[celest helm]

a good chunk of my factory is hanging off the side of the aic area tho..

[static isle]

with recycled inert and test site effluent I'm saving like a line worth of xira even after everything

[tribal crescent]

they don't normally try to walk through them

but they can phase through if they get stuck long enouhg

[celest helm]

Liquid input/output is fine wherever but solid ... you cant i guess

that's lame

[tribal crescent]

or they find their target

[lethal dirge]

ok, so... am I supposed to throw pipes from the other areas to use the sewage thing? I'm speechless
bottles wont work because I don't have anywhere to unbottle them, right?

[tribal crescent]

the game can also spawn the enemies insde the facilities

and they will just phase through

what you can do is instead lock yourself in place

so the enemies clump up near you

[buoyant patrol]

no need, u only save a minimal amount of xiramite on heavy xiramite making

[tribal crescent]

not to contain the enemies

[fathom grotto]

same

[tribal crescent]

hetonite bottle

real rich

[lethal dirge]

thought so too
I don't really see much benefit over just planting a water treatment facility in place

why waste so dramatically this idea?

[static isle]

mega cursed
puri, outlet is test site, throttle crucible

[fathom grotto]

im using a bit of heavy xiranite to produce hetonite components
I need at least like 20k before i can let go and full focus on hetonite parts

[lethal dirge]

who thought it was a good idea to plant a sewage treating facility in a place that produces no sewage?

[tribal crescent]

well tbf

[fathom grotto]

guys who made the new area did

[tribal crescent]

why do you want a place with infinite sewage

as in

would the residents of wuling want it

[jovial breach]

[tribal crescent]

they should add some kind of facility to tp the sewage insantly to the puri node tho

i dread the day we need to pipe from exclusion zone

[river wadi]

whats exclusion zone

[lunar cairn]

yo what did i just find 💀 https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1teorqd/all_in_one_main_aic_only_production_nothing_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

bro is cookig a bit too hard 😭

[tribal crescent]

north wuling exclusion zone

that should be our last zone

[lunar cairn]

and we'll decide to set up another aic there

[tribal crescent]

we will

we are running out of space this update

[magic relic]

Another one?

[tribal crescent]

v4 has 3 outposts

i don't see why wuling won't

unless eos

[lunar cairn]

also 3rd boss

[magic relic]

Ahhh shit

[buoyant patrol]

yep, we can transfer around 5 sawage for 1/30 rate of production so that is: 0.5/min xicron effluent, what is around 15/min xiramite saving

[tribal crescent]

maybe we can go beat the vagueposter

[hoary bobcat]

1 line of xiranite take a lot of space

[tribal crescent]

how do you manage so you don't choke eff from other crucibles btw

[small creek]

used to be possible but not anymore

[tribal crescent]

and do you just calc the needed xiranite

then split them accordingly

[static isle]

do yall do your xircon as half-and-half
or as one eff one xir

[small creek]

the latter

[vapid granite]

This fence here better not fuck up my placement in the third aic outpost

[small creek]

less belts, less pipes

[lethal dirge]

I mean, put that somewhere you can actually concentrate your cuprium stuff, it would make for a ok facility setup
but this is just dumb

as it stands is just a glorified dump for the sewage ponds, so that people that can't figure where to dump don't repeat the water pond and river situationg in wuling

[tribal crescent]

i can understand a separate zone for purification

but piping all the way

[vast iron]

priority convergers seem to "leak" offline where somtimes the bottom gets priority
has anyone else observed this before?

[jovial breach]

It's permanently stuck there?

[tribal crescent]

is pretty dumb

[vapid granite]

yeah seems like its just decoration and not a physical wall

[jovial breach]

I mean can you still place stuff there

[daring rapids]

[hoary bobcat]

So a question, is it more profitable to make hetonite part rather then syringe 💉?

[atomic fiber]

huh, that is new. is it because of new update? priority converger usually always consistent on offline

[hoary bobcat]

To use all that 8 copium?

[solid quiver]

half half is more profitable

[buoyant patrol]

avoid convergers on storage box output, they are buggy for a long time now

[jovial breach]

What is that hetonite and xircon ratio

[atomic fiber]

it is more profitable to make scw battery. scw have highest prio, then heto, than syringe A

[daring rapids]

uhhh, I dunno

it looks just like that

[atomic fiber]

scw > heto part > syringe A

[hoary bobcat]

I mean yeah

But what i asked is what is the best case for copium ore

[solid quiver]

it's about usage of cuprium

[buoyant patrol]

yep ^ this is

[solid quiver]

not xircon etc

[hoary bobcat]

Aight thanks

[atomic fiber]

if you do the math you will know you can't make 6/min heto part without reducing your scw production.
heto part is max at 3.25/min with 14.75/min scw

[small creek]

Since hetonite makes 1 extra sewage line, its more profitable than syringe provided you have the ferrium to sustain it

with the new test area, sewage has new value

[atomic fiber]

usage of cuprium is very clear tbh... if there is still Ferrium make heto part, no more Ferrium make syringe A

[austere lodge]

Burp, I love my summer refreshment

Contemplating rn if I should scrap my Core AIC setup

So I'll try fitting all 10 Xiranite lines

[solid quiver]

what's that supposed to mean

could you make it a bit more grammatical

[buoyant patrol]

only if u don't make gear, if u make at least a minimal 0.5/min gear, than 3.5/min heto, and 14.5/min scw

[vast iron]

i put a identifier in the other side and despite not inputting anything from the secondary input sometimes it leaks over and the right stash starts accumulating items

[austere lodge]

What happens to the factory when offline? What

[vast iron]

and the clogged path tracks item passage despite the other side being full usually

[atomic fiber]

usage of cuprium is dependent on the leftover Ferrium ore yield that people have after making sc wuling battery

i think that should be clear enough

[vast iron]

only happens offline it seems

idk

[hoary bobcat]

We have 90 ferrium
Hetonite need:
-30 ferrium/min

• 240 caprium ore/min

If we make full capacity Hetonite part farm

60 ferrium to make that part for Battery

[thorny galleon]

RIP We're capped at 60/min Xircon.. what do I do with my extra Originium?

[hoary bobcat]

So all 90 ferrium is used

[vast iron]

im doing a bunch of testing rn and ill update you when smt happens

[solid quiver]

so you are saying ~2/min scw is better than products made with 240/min cuprium?

[hoary bobcat]

But rn, because my Hetonitie Line have 1/2 capacity in theory i still have 15 feerium ore/min left to use

[vast iron]

its just hard to do so when behavior only happens offline

[austere lodge]

What's actually the most efficient medicine made from factory?

[small creek]

If you have ferrium to spare, heto parts is marginally better
If not, then syringe A is fine

[atomic fiber]

well... priority converger is a bug... so i guess it not much consistent... eh... dunno what to do with this

[vast iron]

yeah its sad

[austere lodge]

I have to stop syringe production for hetonite

[jovial breach]

@small creek wait what's your current setup, 13.5 sc and 30 hetonite?

[small creek]

That said, ferrium has the most value when used for SCW

[hoary bobcat]

Yeah thats right

[small creek]

Ideally you should have none to spare for heto

So you really cant consider cuprium usage in a vacuum

[small creek]

12 scw, 3.67 lcw, 30 heto

[hoary bobcat]

But i really dont want to make another SCW line, mine has 12/min

[jovial breach]

Oh lc

[atomic fiber]

bro can you even read English... anyway try ask chatgpt or something to translate that to your language

[small creek]

Lcw has the benefit of not using ferrium

I also use most of it anw for power

Im using 0 scw for power rn

[tacit quarry]

this is most balance I can do without splitting belt too much
7/18 seem to be perfect

[buoyant patrol]

---------over-production for sell-------------------
xiranite > 1 * 5 = 5
heavy xiranite > 27 * 11 = 297
hetonite part > 48 * 2,5 = 120
SC battery > 54 * 11,3766 = 614,3364
Yazhen Syringe (A) > 22 * 5 = 110
---------money gain---------------------------------
1146,3364/minute > 68780,184/hour
---------gear production rate-----------------------
all 3 gear is: 0.5/min
---------used minerals/resources--yield/usage-------
originium ore 540/540 (all to scw)
ferrium ore 90/90 (72.5 to xicron, 17.5 to hetonite)
cuprium ore 240/240 (140 to hetonite, 95 to syringe, 5 to gear)
xiranite 300/295
dense originium powder(from V4) 25/25 (20 to scw, 5 to gear)
heavy xiranite 12/1
hetonite part 3,5/1
SC battery 14,5/3,1234

[jovial breach]

Hmm then maybe i can switch to that lc setup, then use 1sc+2lc for power

[hoary bobcat]

Owh, how much power do you use rn? 6k+?

[small creek]

5.29k

Havent placed zipline in test area yet so thatll go up to idk 5.4k

[hoary bobcat]

Wth, thats really low

[jovial breach]

Should be around 5.3-5.5k power if you did everything correctly

[hoary bobcat]

[atomic fiber]

mine already reaching 6k

💀

[small creek]

Im just power efficiency freak idk

been at it since 1.0

[hoary bobcat]

Maybe i have to many zipline idk

[atomic fiber]

fkkking 6k power so expensive

[jovial breach]

Well you spend 6.6k power anyway

[trail mirage]

[daring rapids]

I'm not that freak and 6.2k power is still trivial

[buoyant patrol]

i was at 8k+ until i switched the turrets to battery now it is this:

[daring rapids]

everything is on

all the ziplines

[trail mirage]

how yall using so much

[valid gazelle]

I just changed my mining rigs to hydro rigs

[small creek]

mine is 5.29/5.6 to be specific

[valid gazelle]

Saved quite a bit

[small creek]

2 lcw 2 hcv

[daring rapids]

6.2/6.6 for me

[valid gazelle]

5.99/6.6

Can definitely do pwm

[atomic fiber]

do it

[daring rapids]

[buoyant patrol]

but i have a spider web like zipline, with all teleport, mats spawn, and pickup/drop points connected

[small creek]

oh right my power went up a bit cus im bottling effluent

but anw

[livid orbit]

Isn't there also a way to reduce power from mining with the water variant ?

[small creek]

still within my 5.4k estimate

[hoary bobcat]

Oh yeah, i forgot about the turret i place

[daring rapids]

try to fit every possible ziplines in that budget

[solid quiver]

lol just look back at your own written texts and be amazed by how unclear you are

maybe you can't even see it

[small creek]

should be ez

each zip is just 5 and test area is pretty small

[buoyant patrol]

aaaa, i didn't thinked about that, grrr now u make me do that

[small creek]

If u do 12/m syringes, theres also crucible sharing tech

[livid orbit]

I remember people theoricrafting around that, i didn't looked into it on my side, but since you are so close to be balanced, maybe that could do the trick

[small creek]

and planter-seeder alternator, etc

[hoary bobcat]

What does this mean?

[small creek]

making 2 different solution with one regular crucible

for example, yazhen and jincao

[buoyant patrol]

put in a 50 pack of scw into them, they last around 7600 fight XD

[hoary bobcat]

Plant-seeder alternator?

[hoary bobcat]

Ah you mean the expandable?

[small creek]

i just said regular

REGULAR

[hoary bobcat]

[jovial breach]

Regular show

[daring rapids]

nah that can't be true

[hoary bobcat]

IT FIT?

[atomic fiber]

it's similar to how you do liquid xiranite and effluent recipe together in one extended crucible

[daring rapids]

[atomic fiber]

but in regular crucible instead

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1483752511557992458

[buoyant patrol]

already on it, checking the map where to bring water from where

[solid quiver]

theoretically stack of wsc can last 9 years with 3 rims everyday on mortar

[small creek]

already done fam

this one makes 6/m of each, so total 12/m

[hoary bobcat]

[atomic fiber]

wtf someone deleted image

[static isle]

wrong pic

[daring rapids]

iirc regular crucibles don't do multiple reactions at the same time, or do they?

[hoary bobcat]

Expandable have twice of power usage?

[small creek]

they can

[hoary bobcat]

Yes they can

You cannot use it to make xiranite because input limit

[daring rapids]

last time I did it with xircon effluent

it failed

[small creek]

this one is alternator
notice jincao flower but yazhen seed

[atomic fiber]

regular same as extended yeah
just different in slot count

[tacit quarry]

did I calculate something wrong again
full hetonite seem to give profit much more than usual?

[small creek]

so instead of 2 pairs, you just have 1

[tidal pecan]

Hi, I wanted to swap energy from LC batteries from to HC, but power is jumping up and down, probably not enough batteries production. Do you think it's gonna stabilize itself or do I need to create more battery production lines?

[small creek]

and then see here different colored liquids
the lighter one is jincao soln, darker is yazhen

all in 1 crucible

[jovial breach]

Fix your sandleaf farms

[daring rapids]

[small creek]

if its not obvious, this was one of my fav works

[daring rapids]

should I boost my yazhen A to 6/m?

seems like a good deal

and I also get to do jincao

[small creek]

do 6/m each of yazhen and jincao

if you dont need heto, just drop it entirely

[daring rapids]

nah we gotta hog it for future events

[small creek]

the only thing you lose out on is the 1 extra sewage line

but you save so much power

pick your poison type thing

[nova pilot]

What will you name this masterpiece?

[daring rapids]

I think I can do 3/m for each

[small creek]

Idk it doesnt really have a name

[daring rapids]

[small creek]

It just exists

[small creek]

3/m works yea

the principle still works the same

[nova pilot]

It's crying. Give it a name

[small creek]

idk fart blaster 67000

[daring rapids]

in principle, existing production line should be unchanged right?

just feed jincao at the same time as yazhen

[nova pilot]

Your crucible is now blessed with immunity to clogging

[small creek]

everything below should stay as is

the only thing you add/remove is unloader at the top

[hoary bobcat]

Why do you make yazhen with jincao? I think 1 yazhen line (seed-planting) can supply 2 fitting unit? 12/min yazhen

[small creek]

refiner, shredder, etc

[small creek]

so u can save 1 crucible

[solid quiver]

isn't it also impractical when it comes to selling

[small creek]

12/min yazhen requires 2

[hoary bobcat]

I have like leftover yazhen liquid, i dont know what i can use it for

[small creek]

6/m of each can share 1

[hoary bobcat]

Is it tho? I yeah

[daring rapids]

you can sell it in MS outpost

[hoary bobcat]

It is

It need 2 crucible

[small creek]

You cant process yazhen soln twice in the same crucible

But you can process yazhen and jincao once each

[hoary bobcat]

[hoary bobcat]

This is what i do

[small creek]

Thats just not possible at all

[solid quiver]

the more selling options the more you select to sell

[brazen vortex]

Is this the max?

[small creek]

Thats just being lazy

We're talking maximum profit minimum power, not some ease of use

[hoary bobcat]

I mean using 2 crucible, 1 yazhen shred into 2

[small creek]

Okay now i want you to do that with 1 crucible

[solid quiver]

come on 50 power adding to X /6.6k

[small creek]

1 singular crucible

You literally cant

[hoary bobcat]

Can you?

[small creek]

12/m yazhen? no

6/m yazhen and jincao? yes

[hoary bobcat]

So thats why you use both

I see

[daring rapids]

also I did all the refining in main aic, soo all sewage went to puri nodes

[small creek]

same

[hoary bobcat]

[south rover]

Why does the game allow you to lower the exploration level if lowering it is actually just a complete deficient

[daring rapids]

that extra sewage from heto is used for hxira, conveniently

[tacit quarry]

so is hetonite worth more than SC battery?

[small creek]

Strictly no

[solid quiver]

then that's the case you don't need ziplines for delivery, you can just run tho

[daring rapids]

no sc still worth more

you can pump out much more sc while each sc sells for more stock bill

[small creek]

Im sure your point holds water in some universe

I dont know if youre joking or dead serious but its not funny either way

[daring rapids]

guh

[hoary bobcat]

If i use 8 caprium ore to make hetonite, can i use only 1 purifier? Or i need 2? To make 2 hetonie liquid per 2 second?

[sonic summit]

you still need 2 building input though

[jovial breach]

[tacit quarry]

I mean in term of production value per ferrite

[small creek]

yeah scw gets more value out of ferrite

[solid quiver]

it's funny tho you can see the emote in that message

[sonic summit]

so cloged

[jovial breach]

why i have 210 effluent yield

[buoyant patrol]

after some test and calculation, it didn't worth switching to hydromining, for power yeah it cut the power use in half for mining, but the bigger problem is the 512 factory limit, hydromining uses much more of that, and thats a bigger problem then power

[daring rapids]

why not

[solid quiver]

must been the wind

[daring rapids]

as long as thing runs

[jovial breach]

also 330 sewage is that normal

[daring rapids]

yes

[small creek]

i never look at my liquids so i cant tell you

[livid orbit]

Oh i forgot about that damn limit, you're right at our point, it doesn't work because of that

[small creek]

all i look at is ore and products

[daring rapids]

I basically forget about liquids once my production goes well

[tacit quarry]

could you help me check
I think I did something wrong here cuz my calculation tell me full hetonite give mush more profit

[solid quiver]

after switching to electric mining rigs from hydro mining all it increased by was 4

[small creek]

i dont really have to look at this, we can simplify it this way:
30 ferrite produces 6/m heto parts OR 6/m SCW
Obviously SCW is worth more than heto parts, so it wins

48 vs 54 or smth

oh i see the problem

you multiplied hetonite value by 30, not 6

[daring rapids]

[small creek]

you cant sell raw hetonite

[daring rapids]

real

[small creek]

so..

[daring rapids]

only heto parts

sooo

[small creek]

convert that to parts and its actually just 6

[daring rapids]

you don't need a spreadsheet to know that scw sells more than hetonite really

[buoyant patrol]

u made some misscalculation, hetonite is 6/min not 30/min

[static isle]

I think that's everything?

hypothetically, if I want to drag sewage from marker stone to test site, what's the best route

[jovial breach]

@small creekbtw i sent you some mortars

[tacit quarry]

oh yeah it has to be hetonite part not hetonite

[daring rapids]

[buoyant patrol]

u didn't make hetonite part from the 15 hetonite?
your yield 15/usage 0

[small creek]

thanks ill have a look

[jovial breach]

hmm

[small creek]

I havent even placed anything in test area yet

[daring rapids]

what are those pipe logistic units doing over there?

[static isle]

I just took the fitting unit off to calculate space
forgot to turn it back on

[daring rapids]

[jovial breach]

trap myself so i dont get blown away

[tribal crescent]

surely 15 mortars will just one shot eveything

[buoyant patrol]

wall

mobs can't pass

[jovial breach]

it's faster when i add more martars bc the flame will kill some mobs waves in between

[buoyant patrol]

but better to just slap down a bunch of mortar and watch the fight from a far

[small creek]

yea flame + mortar tends to be faster than mortar only

and 1 acid ofc

[supple gust]

anyone has stable 30/min hetonite factory?
im losing my mind, mine keeps returning to 22/min.

[jovial breach]

oh wait

that exist

[small creek]

acid is goat

easy 10s shaved off

thats 15/m

[daring rapids]

that's not 30/m...

[static isle]

oh wait nvm

[small creek]

scammer in chat

mods

[jovial breach]

wait wtf acid turret is just 2x2

so small

[worthy patrol]

holy powere

[supple gust]

so do i just double that or

[static isle]

here
makeup

[buoyant patrol]

extend it on the back, and feed it fullly

[static isle]

that's 22.5/m

[supple gust]

here's my setup. cant pinpoint what's the problem exactly

[fervent pawn]

i am curious, why in the world would i want to use the purification area, sewage is too valuable

[buoyant patrol]

yeah thats why i sad extand it on the back, i mean add one more row

[static isle]

ur not using all your sewage

[fervent pawn]

i am!

[river wadi]

then your not using all your cuprium

[supple gust]

anyway thanks yall

[tidal pecan]

Is something wrong with the line if one Planting Unit stays clogged?

[jovial breach]

lmao you can see the acid blob inside the turret

[static isle]

no that's as designed
one shredder isn't outputing the full 3 lines

[daring rapids]

your walls blocked it

[fervent pawn]

well okay i not using all the sewage from my hetonite production area, though it seems annoying to drag the sewage all the way from there to the new area

[static isle]

hypothetically if I want to drag sewage from marker to test site what's the best route

[daring rapids]

@marble yarrow what do u think?

[jovial breach]

the best route is use filling unit and drag them from main aic instead

[fervent pawn]

yea that is my situation as well

[tidal pecan]

Thanks

[tacit quarry]

Am i wrong again?
why is my calculation is 80100 / hrs
or that's camp limit

[static isle]

good idea

forgot about that

[buoyant patrol]

it looks good, it just produce 3 belt and u only use 2 belt, so u have 1 belt leftover if u want to use it elsewhere,

[dry comet]

just finished building my valley factory, can someone explain me why in 7 days it stops crafting these 4 things? idk why

[buoyant patrol]

sure :

[solid quiver]

go to jingliu valley then marker stone

[dry comet]

so it isnt because i did smth wrong right?

[buoyant patrol]

no but if u didn't log in in 7 days, the server stop calculating your factory

[dry comet]

thought that maybe it was because it wasnt self sufficient, as in it spends more resources than the amount i can get

[solid quiver]

you should have login daily

[dry comet]

Ok, i did smth wrong, in 1 day my factory will stop producing 3 of my 4 items

[static isle]

i mean filling + separating unit might as well be a treatment plant in terms of power no?

[tidal pecan]

Success, everything is stable now 🥳

[buoyant patrol]

hmm maybe u run out of power

[dry comet]

I craft more batteries than what i use, so maybe is smth else?

Maybe it could be because it caps?

or the report doesnt stop even when the item caps?

[solid quiver]

30/min buck A

wtf

max is 18/min buck A and 18/min VHC

[buoyant patrol]

can u show the power grid report for 7 days?

[dry comet]

It says 3550 output 3515 use

[solid quiver]

you clearly overusing raw materials which make it insufficient to run consistently

[dry comet]

maybe thats why it stops working? because i put more than what i can produce?

[dry comet]

ty, didnt know what was wrong

[static isle]

18 buck A / 18 HCV / 12 citrome C

[limpid pawn]

why not buck C

[buoyant patrol]

but he have a lot of resources in the depot

[limpid pawn]

[static isle]

equal
you can do buck C

[limpid pawn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/riddler-paul-dano-1--k01KRS1XWB4YYNS6HHF2C82SDDR

[static isle]

most just do citrome C for variery

[solid quiver]

bruh i know that and that wasn't needed to include cuz it's in the range and do not use ferrium or originium

[surreal lantern]

finally the back trip is done..

[solid quiver]

or he was using lesser bats for power

[buoyant patrol]

thats why i wanted to see his 7 day power graph, to see if there is a crash

[surreal lantern]

aic to test site trip better go normal route so it can combine with the maker if necessary, wayback just go through monitoring center for my sanity..

[glossy sequoia]

is anyone using the purification plant in test area ?

[surreal lantern]

only few doesn't use

[solid quiver]

wait his graph is weird

[glossy sequoia]

you laid pipes from wuling to test area to purify sewage?

[solid quiver]

ferrium usage still there even other are stopped

[surreal lantern]

yes

pipe + manifold conduit

[glossy sequoia]

we already have mini purification unit to use, is it worth dragging the sewage from wuling to test area? i dont understand the devs intent

[surreal lantern]

250-300 power save up, yes it worth

[static isle]

save power + you get some xircon eff back

[celest helm]

I did it...

My factory is full of spaghetti

but it works

conduit inlet/outlets are the best

[glossy sequoia]

currently the 4 xircon ineff is used to make xircon eff to make heavy xiranite 6/min right? dragging it to test area gives the same thing right?

[limpid pawn]

6 sewage pipes aint gonna get u anything

[surreal lantern]

main purpose of using that thing is to save your power from using 5 - 6 sewage treatment, which cost 50 power each

[limpid pawn]

purification node is a free rdm source

no practical use

[glossy sequoia]

i see. got it. i'll leave it alone then. i have surplus of batteries. no use saving power. thx

[limpid pawn]

yw

[solid quiver]

it's like long term project

[limpid pawn]

u mean 1.4 project

[surreal lantern]

you have surplus of batteries..

[glossy sequoia]

unless they let conduit link like towers and relays, i wont use them for long range

[limpid pawn]

nah they gonna add an outpost to the area on the right

[solid quiver]

1.3

[limpid pawn]

of test area

[solid quiver]

not outpost in test area tho

new map

[surreal lantern]

1.3 gonna give us new subaic for sure cuz we don't have much space left..

[glossy sequoia]

fosure

[tall tangle]

i do use test area output, but it's very stupid

[surreal lantern]

output is a bonus

[celest helm]

It might be super basic and simple but I recommend to anyone to make an emergency power grid - Simply fill up thermal banks with batteries, and then turn them OFF. With new factory layouts and unforseen accidents (it happens) its nice to have that safety net

[solid quiver]

1.3 shall give new map with sub aic, new bats, new meds, etc.

[surreal lantern]

and sewage from new formula

[solid quiver]

ues emergency banks

[spring elm]

Useless nodes.

[pulsar cypress]

[tall tangle]

unless you built things right and your factory works without problem for months

[solid quiver]

12/min effluent for another 6/min product?

[surreal lantern]

hm.. now my conduit to test site already use 3/s ... guess i need to drag more if new formula comes..

[celest helm]

I did, and then I put some stuff in for the event and woke up to zero power, zero batteries, everything jammed and perlica crying

[delicate edge]

What's the disadvantage of Conduit Manifold versus Conduit small?

[solid quiver]

4/20 sec with 2/20 sec formula ig

[solid quiver]

it's bigger by 1x3

[surreal lantern]

it cost higher to build and it's bigger

[delicate edge]

When transporting across maps, better to use manifold?

[pulsar cypress]

Eat more space and energy if the liquid u want to transfer is just 2/s.

[solid quiver]

you didn't use manifold?

[surreal lantern]

use

[solid quiver]

yes

[surreal lantern]

manifold max is 4/s so

[limpid pawn]

whats the use of supply unit

[tall tangle]

and no hickups. in fact no hickups from the start of wuling. i declare skill isuue

[limpid pawn]

beside that one main story fixed quest

[surreal lantern]

i alreay sent 3/s sewage

[solid quiver]

setting up 4 facility between 200-280m is worse 2 facility

[pulsar cypress]

If u transport big amount of liquid, can.

[celest helm]

Good for you buddy, Want a gold star sticker? You sure earned it, champ! Here ya go! ⭐

[tall tangle]

it's not about me. in general if you need safe proof, something is wrong

[surreal lantern]

no point in not using manifold

like zipline that get replaced by 110m one

[tall tangle]

there is a thing called facility limit. hope you wont hit it eventually

[south ferry]

If only thy show it to us and it's facility value

[swift niche]

does 1 water pump feed 4 Yazhen planting units or just 2?

I forgor

[south ferry]

2

[swift niche]

ok thanks

[undone current]

2

[tender thistle]

Already hit area capacity can't add more sledgehammers 😭

[swift niche]

I hate the area capacity limit

[solid quiver]

it has same facility count tho

[surreal lantern]

^

[real crescent]

i forgot, do pylons placed outside the aic area provide power to buildings inside the aic area or no?

[solid quiver]

yes

[real crescent]

hallelujah i might be actually able of saving this blueprint

[surreal lantern]

it also actually save up factory limit if you using a lot of conduit in base

rather than 2 + 2, you now use 1 + 1

[tall tangle]

you place less of them (both about towers and manifolds)

[solid quiver]

units not connected by belt such as pylon, crucible, water treatment unit, anything that only connected by pipes

[solid quiver]

and what's your point

[tall tangle]

that facility limit might become a problem without saving on those small things

[surreal lantern]

i don't understand his point

[solid quiver]

manifold and tower are literally saving facility counts

so what are you even implying

[surreal lantern]

maybe he refering to me dragging sewage to test area

which is, in fact, actually better for factory limit as well

[solid quiver]

we were talking about advantages of manifold and zipline and you barged in like disagreeing with and suddenly comes up with facts supports the advantages

[tall tangle]

i didnt disagree tho. maybe phrasing was a little misleading.

[solid quiver]

that was ambiguous than woman ngl

[surreal lantern]

[vivid shore]

Anyone has a good use for the purification facilities in test area?

[lethal dirge]

use them to make shade

[vivid shore]

?

[tall tangle]

use of effluent?

[solid quiver]

connect sewages to treat them

[tulip tinsel]

Sorry for not noticing your message, been busy with thesis. In that design it seems to have something disconnected as seen on the screenshot, and it also has acid connections at the main AIC it seems. Am I understanding that correctly?

[vivid shore]

The single of manifold?

[solid quiver]

yes

[dry comet]

Just unlocked a function to pay for improvig purification nodes, what does it mean?

does it do it quicker?

[solid quiver]

no you get more treatment units

[vivid shore]

I mean single or manifold, which one?

[solid quiver]

manifold

can transfer up to 8 sewages in it

[vivid shore]

And the single?

[solid quiver]

4

[vivid shore]

And the pools of acid in test area?

[surreal lantern]

idk why dev put it there

[uneven aspen]

lore reasons probably

[tulip tinsel]

I am considering connecting the acid at test area to main AIC using a manifold

[iron stratus]

how much eff/min will 5 refiners of sewage net you from the purifier node

[surreal lantern]

yea probably it is easier to xfer acid from test area rather than the maker

[uneven aspen]

the acid is a byproduct of the blight and aggelio monsters. since it's a testing area by the blight tide

there should be acid around there

[tall tangle]

i wanna know what's in here

[uneven aspen]

stockade lorewise has an intristic waterway preventing the acid from going there and minimizing blight damage to that area iirc

[tulip tinsel]

How does the 512 ceiling work? Is it for the whole of wuling or just a subarea?

[surreal lantern]

each area cap total is 512 (hidden) i think

[tulip tinsel]

So city and test each have 512?

[surreal lantern]

it is a combination from non-factory area , and outside factory area

we can only check outside factory area

[uneven aspen]

yup and 128 pipe limit too iirc

[tulip tinsel]

And it doesn't count pipe and and belts and their splitters right?

[surreal lantern]

i heard ppl saying they use separate limit, idk

but belt bridge / splitter / etc .. does count towards 512 for sure

[native thistle]

anyone else have a picnic area in their core AIC? as Andre intended

[buoyant patrol]

little help

[past flame]

Any idea why the theoretical data for curpium is 240 but current data is low ?? I placed the hydro rigs on test area but it didn't change

[pastel orbit]

pipe limit is 96 for 2nd smol outpost

[tawny ravine]

you arent using it so stash is capped

[uneven aspen]

you're only using 180/min and hit the depot limit of 82,000

[pastel orbit]

you must grow your factory

[past flame]

oh alright thanks

[surreal lantern]

oh thx

this make me wonder about factory limit for smol outpost

guess it's time to spam splitter to test out

[pastel orbit]

it really fricked me cuz i wanted to move all coprium production there

[solid quiver]

32 or 34 for test area

[sick basin]

256

[surreal lantern]

[sick basin]

Sub pacs are half of main

Since main is biggest too

[pastel orbit]

smol outpost are smoler cuz they are smol

[surreal lantern]

i wish dev would make aic more meaningful for map development, beside zipline

[wheat cipher]

without aic you cant make equipment

[pastel orbit]

or turets

[real crescent]

nothing interesting

[wheat cipher]

and you cant trade without it

[pastel orbit]

trading is not a map development

[tall tangle]

've been there? any chances pac will open it that place (visually)?

[sick basin]

There will be no outpost in test area

Cope

[solid quiver]

it's kinda expected tho

[wheat cipher]

the next area will have an outpost

[sick basin]

They'd have ti put it in the right side

The modeled but darkened

But there diesnt look ti be eniugh space

[solid quiver]

yes according to expansion pattern path

[real crescent]

i have been there, there are just some buildings and nothing else. my guess is the interior may be future quests, but all in all currently theres nothing to see there that you couldnt see at any other building in the test site. not enough space for a pac

[solid quiver]

they could be just decorations for environment

they really put hearth into something useless

[pastel orbit]

sure they could. but they wont. if they wanted id be there

[surreal lantern]

existing AIC is screaming " LET ME OUT I"M FULLLL"

[solid quiver]

like rossi story quest area and umbral monuments

[tall tangle]

understood... i thought that maybe those acid pools in testA make some sense, because of that. not the case i guess

[solid quiver]

exquisite models for one time thing

[final sierra]

did some math and for case:

SC battery:  250%   15/min (ori Cubes -5/min)
Heto      :   50%   15/min
Heavy Xira:  200%   12/min
Yazhen A  :  100%    6/min

I have:

                              990/73
                                ||
not used Sewage       : 180 - 13.56164 = 166.43836
Xircon from Puri Area : 166.43836 / 30 =   5.547945
not used Xiranite     :  30 - 13.56164 =  16.43836
so Xiranite production: 300 - 16.43836 = 283.56164

[solid quiver]

my core aic and sub aics are half empty

[surreal lantern]

[wheat cipher]

uff yes all my aic are full

[surreal lantern]

maker i'm half empty, main aic is like hm.. 70%

[wheat cipher]

507 for my main

[pastel orbit]

meanwhile me complaining about not enough space to make aesthetic builds

[surreal lantern]

but valley aic, is screaming. can only place few more plant production..

[junior breach]

is this good chat ?

[wheat cipher]

no

[left solar]

guys, what do i do with 4 more fots?
i already produce enough batteries, hetonite parts and heavy xiranite to drain both my outposts on a daily basis

[wheat cipher]

for what do you need 12 battery per minute?

[junior breach]

me ? for sale ofc

[tulip tinsel]

Anyone managed to route acid from test area in fewer than 4 "connections" like in the image?

[wheat cipher]

how do you manage your space?

[sick basin]

More!

[final sierra]

tubes :))))))
#aic-factory message

and how it looks on map:
#aic-factory message

[junior breach]

magic... wanna see 😀 ocd trigger warning tho

[pastel orbit]

Good

the "good" checklist?

2. does it require no player input?
3. do all the machines work as much of the time as possible?```

[wheat cipher]

sure

[tulip tinsel]

Acutally crazy, does that even take up less space for the 512 ceiling that using manifolds?

[final sierra]

pipe logistics have their own limits

[tulip tinsel]

huh, how much space does a manifold actually cost btw

[pastel orbit]

pipes suc

[uneven aspen]

is this via pipes?

or gonna assume it's conduits

[final sierra]

yes :)

[surreal lantern]

pip probably riding

[pastel orbit]

me and my homies hate pluids in endfield
factorio changed fluid system for a reason

[uneven aspen]

i couldn't pipe while riding the raft

[pastel orbit]

fluid handling is never fun

[surreal lantern]

if i have time and sanity, i might try it

[final sierra]

image 4:
#aic-factory message

[surreal lantern]

oh

[uneven aspen]

can you do it normally or is it via a bug?

[left solar]

i believe they're 4x2 or 3x2, cant remember exactly

[uneven aspen]

i know there's a way to walk around through water without despawning

[junior breach]

here u go

[final sierra]

not a bug, just go arround :)
#aic-factory message

[pastel orbit]

why do you have one pump per one pipe?

[tulip tinsel]

I meant for the 512 count

[surreal lantern]

[keen river]

lady, you can't stand there

[surreal lantern]

i salute your sanity

[pastel orbit]

also its stupid that its better to use massive pipe than underground cuz it wont use development

[final sierra]

safer (+ it has buffer for water when water usage start/stop) and I love how it looks, also currently that AIC corner looks better

[wheat cipher]

doesnt look bad. i expected a total mess

[solid quiver]

what's today's dish?

[pastel orbit]

its not safer and why would you need a buffer lol
but look is a valid reason

[solid quiver]

lowkey looks like chipset

[inland citrus]

RPG Maker flashbacks

[sick basin]

You.

[tall tangle]

but... this is beautiful...

[inland citrus]

No but for real, wish they told us before we ran to the damn NPC to find out what the dish was

[final sierra]

it is, game have some problems with 100% pipe speed usage if you split it not perfectly

[inland citrus]

the real problem is clogs lol

[tulip tinsel]

I honestly love how neat conduits look

[final sierra]

[uneven aspen]

ah i see what you did, i just assumed pipes disconnect if you go too far . . .