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i have learned the art of quantum piping
you think they'll patch that?
unlikely, nor do i think they will be able to
I should try moving stuff around with pipes like that... since I have no protocol left
the better conduit
protocol scam fr
how do i start producing gears for my characters?
First of all finish wulings story, then start making cuprium and xiranite components and bills
so you guys doing 3/min heto or 3.25/min heto part?
because while mathematically 3.25/min is the max eff, it actually make you eat 1 more purification unit, that only run at 0.08 of its speed??
Kyostivs farms are rly good
I'm tempted to do the 2.75SC now cus I remembered half my cardiac is empty
use this things called gearing unit
okay
uhh
oke
??
time to continue my hard yakka work of importing 82k HCV into wuling
just make hcv in wuling and pretend you moved it yourself
i have NOTHING to make hcv with
make hcv in wuling by manual transfer raw ferrium ore and originum ore.
why? for extra suffering ofc
2.5 sc/min usage lmao
actually insane
can one hydrolic pump supply more than one inlet?
You have me and a big heart โค๏ธ
82k will last me abt 19 days
new lv 3 camp
so... nothing

Can i turn you into an hcv
Sensei flavored battery
Im about to be grinded and put into a packaging unit
Haruna, u doing 3/min or 3.25/min or 6/min heto part?
hey it was your offer
but only in a turret
Is there a way to calculate how much of a certain item I need to produce per/m or per/h
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Yes.. the aic report
yeah math.
you calculate by the limited raw resource you have which is orig ore, Ferrium ore, cup ore, and forge of sky.
then you decide which recipe give you more wuling bucks when selling them on outpost
guys
i have an absolute googoogaagaa idea
what if i use 3hcv/m + 3 lcw/min to power wuling
absolute googoogaagaa
go do full scw qyurii 
You can but imagine transferring hcv
1 sc + 3hc should cover up to 6.7k
oh my god i can do it
....what kind of sound drop is this
Hualalala
Hualalala
Lol same braincells
this is awesome
I feel like the sandleaf report is wrong because of the fact that it uses 3 different facilities at any point time and because of that the usage/yield is wrong or am I just going a bit ster crazy trying to make things smaller
it never wrong

wait what the best output again ?
What's the calc for the purification node? Ho much xircon stuff can i expect assuming i throw every leftover sewage from the cuprium refining? Is there any sewage source that i missed?
You must try the infinite pipe technology
the best wuling factory output
Nani
did an old ori bed got upgraded?
Yep
Yaa
Max 540
8 sewage from 8 curpirum refinery.
1 from hetoite.
3 from cuprium ref used for 2sc and 2 heavy.
leaving you with 6 sewage.
the conversion cost 30 sewage for 1 xircon effluent
wer 
ugh I wanna do the pipe but too tired rn
6 heto
12 SC
3.67 LC
Hold on... 30???
yes, click the purification xircon effluent output for the ratio info
hualala is the cn onamatopoeia (sp?) for raindrops hitting a roof yeah
what the ratio inputfor 3,67 lc again?
absolute googoo gaagaa
im short on 10 yield now, i think there's a water issue?
Nono, i see the number 30. I think i misunderstood it. So it really is 30 to 1 ratio
Damn is it even worth it then?
I can pwm this if i want to but eh
yeah you would if you minmax it before. lmaoo
it's somewhere in qingbo
that's the one that got upgraded
so you probably have pipe distribution cross-map if you hyper optimized
55 dens ori
18.33 xira
up to you, if you meta transfer ferrium,can be a slow sc production.
because we hace extra ori cube
you gotta combine the upgraded wuling nodes with upgraded qingbo nodes now 
looks okay to me
i guess i just gotta visit all and check one by one
yeah. only wuling city ori nodes changed (those 2 spots before have 4 high 1 low same)
so roughly half line xira ?
found it
should be able to just limit it with the dense ori, right? much easier to do a 25 split
and just overfeed xira
so we input 25/min dense ori?
30+25
i just let xira autoclog, yes
hmm my xira usage keeps going down
but nothing else seems affected?
this was 279 a few minutes ago

did you recently set up a heavy forge? Could be the effluent filling & reaching the xira throttle
Nah my forges have all been setup long ago
Something clogging the production. So its delayed for a bit each time?
*just look at it again after a day. if it dies, it dies
is it the effluent outlet?
can is see your xira and dense ori yield + usage? also what we metatransfer here?
the only new thing i did was put in the effluent from test site
true..
the tried and tested way
the 25 setups are always for burning off the metatransfer, so metatransfer dense ori
im transferring dense ori cubes. so 60/min ori from this update (turns to 30 cubes) + 25 from meta transfer
10 min and 30 min reports
how many pumps can ya attach to a single conduit before it maxes out the flow?
2 (normal conduit)
2 pumps 1 pipe/conduit
okey
1 employee caught lacking
quick fix, just add extra pump 
i just got a silly idea
smh
time to lay down a entire conduit network fo fun
It just fluctuates thats all
my quick fix is just turn 1 miner into electric rig lmaoo
Ur making fractional factory
it was 279 earlier
it kept going down and now its 268
people really overestimated the work to switch from low to high puri nodes
???
Clogged fr
just check all xira eaters
its still normal, everything 12/m flat
nothing is happening
except the xira usage going down
Bro just dont over think it
It just fluctuates just fine
Be concerned if it reaches 200
I will wake up to 0/m everything factory
then its one extra forge doing nothing
if we included extra 10/min dense from valley 4 we can get 2 line and 5/min dense ori input lines right ?
Wfym it shouldn't? He using fractional lc battery
you have a pic for the optimal rig setup? im lazy to do math 
@small creek i removed my stash
I have fractional SC which is even more wobbly and it's steady 284/min flat

welcome to the stashless club
Your splitters are correct. His, maybe not
now join me in the 0 scw usage club as well
My splitters are incorrect, actually, the correct is 282
Still reoptimizing..but went from capped protocal capacity in Wuling to 289..I really used way too many conduits when I could've just used a single pipe
(dont)
I'm underfeeding for ease of use
no i havent lmaoo. it was just a quick move and i didnt recorded info about it. imma have to create one just in case
I am quite wondering
I would trust Qyurii's splitters to be set correctly
So, Iยดm trying to optimize this battery factory again before returning to work on the hetonite stuff. Any chance I can make it reasonable with 4 thermals instead of 2?
My splitters are umm
did we really need extra xircon effluent?
wuling is 6+1/3 now
yeah uh enjoy
amogus moment
Now I've connected fully the kinda useless purification node to my core base. Are there any really good blueprints I can yoink that actually take the purification node into account?
it's the same if you water or not
thats just 1 scw line
up to you, not required, but the power saving can be helpful if can bring down 1 battery use at your setup
wait we can get hetonite component from box now ?
nice
yikes, well, just think of it as sewage dump now
draining this lol
yea, random box at test map dropped heto comp
they also increase cuprium drop from 2 to 5
its not only on test map though
its only this much cuz of the rate it changes it lol
wut, i thought only at new map
its all wuling map
ahh yes. endfield industries vs amazon package thieves
my Xira autoclogs here 
(Xircon outlet is from Purification Area)
habitual offender i bookmark those boxes 
probably not, because it depends if players have fully maxed out their sewage export, and the small amount is finnicky to work with
the best layout I've seen is Jockomoron's 14.75/min SC setup, which actually puts (a portion of) the purification node effluent to use in continuous flow
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=J1m8T6e4y8p3T2
They are reporting that it eats somewhere around ~3 sewage outputs' worth of effluent; more will back up to the node. So split something like 2/3rds, let it backclog, and send the other 1/3rd to bottling if you really care
im yet to incorporate my 6.2/min effluent from test area
(here is my 24/min xira for effluent maker for 2nd heavy forge)
I hope they add some more ferrium ore in a future update
oh my, that Xiranite splitter ๐
Trying to make bottles for everything
(lmao my sewage usage will be reduced here if i get effluent from test area, so effluent from test area increases, so i also reduce my sewage again
)
@tulip tinsel see this^ too, looks like the same concept
probs just calc it same as puri loopback, I'm still lazy to actually look though
is it always 283 consumption? Shouldn't it be 282 or lower?
bro is 507/512 lmaoo
assuming you're doing the 14.75 sc batt
Was that directed at me? Trying to comprehend it and failing
Not u
Maxed out sewaged export?
no, I think youre question got missed, we were discussing why Qyurii's consumption rate is imbalanced
hmmmmm need to do some math to answer but currently it runs on 283
cutting it super close now
the bp 
imma replace the conduits, into quantum pipe connections lmaoo
I kinda dont like it cus it uses a separate crucible for xircon rock
sewage generation is somewhere between 5 and 9 streams, depending on how much SC batt production and how much heto production
84 is the normal consumption for heavy xiranite
ah yes.. the secret arts of pipe bending
impressive
moved some facilities from marker stone to wuling
saved like 50 power 
why did I even think of using 2 bottling + 2 separating facilites
THIS WORKS??????????
bottling propaganda is a sham 
oh oops I misremembered the number, mine is supposed to be 286 but is actually 284 ๐ค
I still use 1 bottle line to transfer heto sewage from marker stone

you can see its a max-length pipe with 80-length lmaoooo
piping is scam
bottle is the way
Honestly I am a bit lost as to why so few seem to be crazy enough to use the new node for sewage. I'd assume some factorymaxxer would salivate at the thought of a 0.00001% improvement
THAT MORE magical than mine 
We're all using it for sewage
the problem is the effluent is such low flow that it's hard to integrate properly
some of us reaching protocol limit too
and the fact that people's choices of different setups could lead to different outputs of sewage / inputs of effluent is another factor for blueprinters to consider
though I guess bp-following community probably just follows bp-er's exact setup
and that is why im just not gonna make a bp
Oh, so there are designs that use the sewage treatment but not the xircon? Care to share a fav design since I am kinda clueless about AIC?
I'm not familiar with blueprints tbh
but it's essentially just
stick all 8 of your cupr refiners in aic because it's closest to test area
oh, good idea, yes that can be oprimized ๐ค
run the conduits
going for 12 sc battery , 6 hetonite part, and 12 heavy xiranite is already producing excess bills without any weird fractional production. there just isn't a need for the hyperminmax decimal builds other than 'because I can'
The best blueprints are max efficiency and easiest to use/read
put all the sewage (except what you need for feeding SC batts and reactors for heavy forge effluent) into those conduits
Mine only falls in the first criterion
With these recent changes (looking at you test area effluent), its hard to come up with a clean build
Why make 2 acid pools, if you're not going to allow pumps to be placed there -.-
Another possible factor is that it kinda makes sense to put pipes outside the AIC because real estate is fairly tight rn
but can't blueprint that
the boss don't have the face anymore
Theres still a lot of space in main AIC if you do things correctly
needs more artilleries
Hmmm, I'll settle for a blueprint that just uses the sewage treament of the new node and ignores xircon if you have it
#saveenfieldwildlife
I honestly just want to make a little bit of use out of my piping endavor
I have like 1/3rd space remaining
Well good news, your current base is most likely already that
Just refine 8 lines of cuprium and send 6 of them to test area
It's time to optimize
yeah, it was just really annoying working around the event stuff too
The only changes from 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 (what we're in rn) is:
2 more cuprium
remove all water treatment and send to test area
decide how much heto you want
4 more forges (can all go in marker stone)
how do you get excess 18.49 xiranite?
how much xircon effluent did you make?
this update is just really annoying in general
hmm or not ๐ค
cuz Xircon rock production there is set to 50% to use 15 Ferium Powder max, also actual stable usage of it will be 13.75 so it will reach the limit and auto reduce production speed, so not sure if possible with not separated
its not even rewarding as someone who usually enjoys the aic a lot
its not .. no
yeah , esp math
Just make full xircon in 1 crucible instead of half half in 2
i really wish the factory to be more complicated
Just forget the purification node..
All became peaceful..
this feels too easy ugh.......
if they give us more ferrite, that would solve much more problem
In a satisfying, not annoying way
you just slot in the xircon eff in crucible and done
yep
but the thing is.. other resources arent enough for that
Is it even possible to run 1/2 + 1/27 split off the same line?
Xircon is 100% in first one and auto balanced clogging in second one
And its just a tiny drop effluent.
im already balanced on my yield/usage yet im positive on the SIRcon
the 1/2 means you must have a half split, so there's no way to go pure 3 splits thereafter
I ran into that issue trying to figure out sewage split
Split for what?
2 sewage for 12 xircon, 1 sewage for heavy xira, done

8 cope refining = 8 sewage
2 to scw xircon
1 to effluent hxira
5 go to treatment
All done.. XD
standalone 2.75 sc batt line
i can blueprint this, but i can imagine tons of players complaining when they are midway this 
dont forget 1 from heto
it'll be funny cuz you did make a showcasing video
nah, most people will hit 512 limit
Oh yass.. Just dump that one to treatment also.. XD
All good.
stable Xircon rocks 60/min production is in the other place (where everything works 100%)
(but I don't like current shape of production line)
this will make it even funnier
yeah i kinda forgot i removed all turrets and planting lots for this
Blueprint shared.
5 mins later all back asking it not working as they want..

can we just make sc battery with inert from 2nd hxira and effluent from test site?
yes
then those people will curse haruna....

Ahh.. Another pain split.. Just make other thing that easier to handle..
Easier life.. XD
sometimes aesthetics just dies
ive given up on it
the bigger issue imo is I cannot imagine "tons of players" being willing to pipe acid lol
we are midway in the patch so i wont BP it lmaoo imagine their efforts then update arrives
behold my small sc maker we also got extra sewage to transport 
first requirement: ask yourself "do you love yourself" and the answer is no
I love the purifier outside though, that's great
Peps : read bp description.
"Pipe acid to main Aic"
Ok.. Anyone have another bp?
step 1
I think Jockomoron's setup does this / @ Kargo
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=J1m8T6e4y8p3T2
For me its "have enough protocol space in wuling"
Rather than their efforts, im more concern with your dm inbox of peps asking on how to fix the bp.

pretty sure same idea as Kargo setup but single expanded reactor for the fractional solid xircon out
Oh that also.. True..
Because im using a fuckton of bridge and splitter and converger and conduit and whatever just to use this test area effluent
Without it, id be confident to bp my work
.... Not using the double conduit?
oh god, did you actually set up the zipline / stuck tech to do this?
so with all the optimization.. what yall do with the excess xiranites?
just making xira / cuprium comps?
No like within the core aic
Ahh..
i actually have 57 extra pipe logistics lmao
stuck tech, yes. after ziplining
i won't answer which conduit connect to which ๐คฃ
10th forge periodic switch between heavy and normal is how I plan to burn it
xira/cupr comp is easier, yes
man why we cant meta transfer 2 different item 
Does anyone have a 12 and 25/m splitter? 
if you login daily then just change it daily...
also, metatransfer change to 1800/h WHEN
is there a guide on how to do this?
I keep seeing vids on twitter but they never really explained how
you can create 12/min splitter if you derive it from the 24/min one (aka 1/5th or 4/5th ratio)
let meta transfer transfer multiple item as long it as capacity i need 10 ferium and 15 dense ori 
wtf 
Thank you so much 
you have a slow accumulation phase (10 norm forge, 2 heavy forge) from 0 xira in storage to 82k, depends on your exact usage / consumption rate, but fully optimal, it looks like the accum phase will be ~4 days long
then you have a fast depletion phase (9 norm forge, 3 heavy forge) from 82k xira to 0, again, depends on your exact setup, but the optimized is ~13 hours long
ideally you don't actually hit 0 or 82k because then prod will stall or clog, respectively, so something like 1 to 81 or whatever happens to line up with irl schedule of checking game
rinse lather repeat
you can take 2 of the 6/min belts here, this is 24/min xiranite to reactor
ah ok I'll copy that thx
I'm already at 82k so prolly will start later at night
12/min is just 4 belts facilities...
if you can / care to, drag some xira over to v4 so it's uncapped and can continue prod until you have time to play factory and set up the 3rd heavy
free space on main AIC lover XD
You're a life savior 
-# I almost died to math
Because I need another set of 4 to make het solution right
i shared this when heto first came out and someone actually blocked me and claiming the passthrough and fluid merging isn't possible ๐ญ
you need another set of 4 if you plan on a full line of heto, yes, but you don't want to split the powders because each reactor is fully fed
it would be 4 more lines of cupr powder, not splitting these 4 lines
Something like this, but with 1 forge.
Place forge in xira line, to build up xira stock in depot until almost full.
Then stop the xira prod, move the forge to right one. So it consume the xira stock in depot making hxira.
wait I finally finished reading your text
so I have to do switch the last one manually?
there are some vids of people using 9 forge + 1
that +1 forge is the one alternating between hxira and xira production
it alternates automatically
that said, if you're making full heto, it precludes you from making any fractional amount of sc battery over the standard 2 lines, so the only thing you can do with the excess ori we got this patch is to make LC batts
they most likely set it up then didnt noticed that the last reactor recipient should be clogged of acid first then the rest ๐ญ
yea but there're some vids online that shows it's possible to make 1 forge alternate automatically without having to move it
let me find it
I have only ever tried 15/m outside of 30/m ๐ญ
So I actually have to pour all of my cuprium to just powders
i think he wants the auto switch xira heavy xira
continue mine if u want
it's manual, yes
there are projects working on automation https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495816858350125066 but I don't think there is a fully finished and functional
Yes, or make half
The factory God has answered. XD
im lazy to continue it since the extra xira we have changes every half-patch
so just bother to have the manual one instead
Do I also really have to conduit my cuprium sewage into the purification node 
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As long as your brain strong enough to process the flow..

For me, manually better..
yup, it's bad :(
how many xira cycle you got before changing to heavy xira
oh yea that one works
thanks
I'll save it
Well hopefully it'll be efficient enough for a full xircon output
thats 20 xira then the 20 xira turns into 2 heavy.
its kinda not self-sufficient coz it uses outside xira for the effluent that goes into bottles
I guess I'll do xira comps first
and try the automatic way once my bren is ready

In future patches I hope
bottle of sewage, this is actually nice idea, we dont have to make long connection for marker stone connection to main aic
or wait for future patch when it's possible to alternate things with a single facility

You see the gap in the belt flow..
Thats the intricate part for them to switch input, one wrong part you clogged the whole system..
XD
Im still care for my brain to use that.
My brain will explode using things like that.
yea something happens with the wiggly belts or that burdo muck port
I also don't understand how
you make it more efficient by finding a way for 5 xira at a time to enter the forge at the same time altogether lmaoo
since you have 2 seconds of waiting after the last carbon has been processed
30heto
12hxira
13.5scw
14,7/12yazhen C
Looks good. As long as the ore also stable.
dw abt that yazhen no.
14 and 7/12 is optimal fr
Is one manifold pair enough to pipe in sewage from cuprium lines to pipe out on the node?
currently, yes, future, who knows
It's a shame the "output Xira" in forge has to route all the way around instead of. Jump to input slot when input is empty (almost like crucible)
the node itself is limit of 6/min, i.e., one double-conduit and one single conduit of sewage out from factory to wall
Well not really one pair, numerous actually, I think I used around 5 pairs? To pipe it from Core AIC to Test Area
are your use that much space as well?
Yep
Space doesn't matter if you're hyper efficient elsewhere
like those crazy people are
this part is what boggling me
I still don't understand how converger priority works - is it bc of the wiggly belt on carbon line?
I thought it's always 50-50 bc it's never stated in the game that it's possible for the converger to "wait"
My xira forge blueprint that can be put together up to four to fill a bar in the Core AIC
And somehow I still ran out of space
4....
Yep this needs a long session of reworking
max is 7 i think for now
Kinda. If output of the left converger is carbon and "clogged", the converger will only accept carbon as well. Holding back the xiranite
12 actually
welcome to the splitter-converger universe
I have set it up so far into 10 xiranite, 2 heavy
ah I see. I'll just accept it ig
anw thanks for letting me know how

Pipes do it too right? Just. Messier?
if i can remember, their behavior depends on how you placed it. either you placed it altogether by a BP/copying/or manual placed. they will behave differently based on that
Lowkey gave up with pipe math so I'm just Chen-ing it with 1 raw liquid output = 2 facilities 
or it is based on location where placed. Or how BP was saved. Or
i dont mess with pipes lmaooo i would think they die fast
There was one point where I thought splitters at bends looked clean
Belts and routers.....
Just make it straight and use the corner lol
ah dang..
but if it works once, it won't break in the future right?
this reminds me that nightmare of 2 small reactor for 30 xircon setup in 1.1
yeah some people have tested that some locations would differ the outcome. so its a deep rabbit hole
Until I ended up hitting the limit
no. only a few config survives when offline
so I just unlocked the water treament sector in the new area... wth are you supposed to use it for with no depot access or anything useful?
Wait I thought yours did survive? For like 2 hrs?
ah I see
I'll have a look once I max my xira comps
thx once again
I thought the battery backup safety net system is gonna be implemented this patch
Pipe sewage from PAC to get free effluent. (Not necessary)
yeah mine survives coz i made that setup that survives offline
Until I logged in and everything was down because I forgot to pipe the xircon 
Or do the quest and solve the sewage pool nearby.
@subtle finch made many tests about it
Activate, upgrade. Thats all..
XD
maxed out it makes 1 effluent every 5s... whats the point?
Same but if not. I have a stash of SCW and HCV for jumpstarting
Hikarin's test (for triple splitter competing into converger)
"free effluent". For whatever you need.
For development lvl point.. XD
not even 20days left... not worth it to optimize the auto switch
Oh HC Wuling Battery I await your arrival
Alright. I've looked inside the rabbit hole enough. I'm looking away until it's solved.
Followed and forgotten
imagine it's Heavy Xiranite and oricrust. As a treat
I don't think it will be, since it's probably built on the foundation of hetonite and heavy xira
It was revealed to me in a dream
But how do we fit originium into a battery formula without cancer
Xircon HeavyXira Hetonite InertEffluent into reactor crucible
my tip is first always place converger last, and try not to do 3 way converger priority
it's deterministic as long as you do that
Hetonite + hxira ->crucibles> heto con..

Dense Ori combines with either Heto Part or Heavy Xin ig
I just place stuff right next to the facility and let random chance take the wheel
Why did Endfield cultivate originium in Talos II to combat the รther when Xiranite can do it too and it's made from Sandleaf, so it doesn't give cancer, are they stupid 
because... xiranite is based on originium?
Lore question but if I remember right. Xiranite was developed on Talos II and took many years. We take advantage cus 100+ years since arrival. But it kinda new.
my guess for hc battery is something like liquid heavy xira reacts with dense ori powder to give xircon2.0 that gets packaged with hetonite parts
bakes in the heto and the heavy xira and the ori
V4 is waterless apparently to produce xira..
becoz valley iv can't use water....
Noooooo it's sarcasm
and there's a random chance that it will clog when you go offline 
V4 is waterless is much funnier tbh
V4 is just that bum you don't care about but you pop in sometimes for the bombs
Not random chance. Guaranteed. I come back to clogs every few logins. It's kinda spicy
nice
wish me luck so I can get it right within the first few tries
Super UN meta. But
Meta transfer bombs from V4 to WL.
a day or two later, and you'll never need more.
It's kinda sad we moved onto V4 so quickly and the component formulas ended up being a nothingburger for endgame
I had fun figuring out cryston
I just placed 2 entire conduit lines going to and from the test area to the city AIC cuz why not
I made the transfer bring in the parts for the bombs to wuling so I could make them there
@wispy grove do you still have final production sheet?
how much Xircon eff did you produce (not recycle)
Spacing out my relays well going to the newest originium mine so Test Area still looks beautiful from afar
chat, is there any reference to end-of-patch date for 1.2? like an event ending time stated somewhere, etc
make it 45 and 90ยฐ 
The only reason I did this is cuz I feel like we might get a event or something else next update
The rerun banner? It's just gonna last until 1.2
it's implied by the end of the version calendar / rehash banner, isn't it?
check bp?
.lanturn
.version
what structures do yall use to keep feet off ground for conduit zipline stuff
june 5
I haven't set-up a zipline array yet anywhere now that I remember
checks out, yeah, 05-29 plus 7
.roadmap
I rarely use my ziplines that I do have placed down so didn't feel like placing more down
Do you just place it beside relays
.peakelastic
what are yall doing with the extra inert eff from 2nd hxira + 1.5sc?
I'm just purifying and bottling them for now so idk what to even do
.elasticpeak
what is the max throughput of pipe
2/s (2 pumps, 4 building usages)
ty
my first hxira: takes from SC
2nd hxira: i have exact effluent maker that uses 24/min xira (24/min inert turns into 6/min effluent, so 30/min total effluent for 2nd hxira)
loop them to the heavy forge effluent generating reactor or to its forge output and it should self throttle the xira consumption
should i sell this ?
or wait for better one
i just click sell if price > 4600
the max is 5k
why rush unless you need bills now
and some more XD
bananana
don't have care for such detail, it's not like you can know how much price will improve next day
splitter of death
Theres a Battle Pass mission in Week 5 where you need to sell elastic goods, 1 less day of hoarding
you just sell 10 stocks
yall are crazy
fine 
All those bills that I earned, gone, reduced to ashes
And then the artificing is gonna hit hard pity

Me with 6k gel 
does it throttle correctly if I'm passing xira thru
like I'm feeding all 3 xira lines to the crucible and porting 2 out
the line is being split/multiplied by 1/2 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 2/3 right?
make lc battery i guess?
i am debating doing that too after i cap out xiranite components
maybe ye...
Offer to Zhuang Fangyi
but im also on balance with originium
comp, bat, heavyxira, sell,
How many can you get with 25/m Dense Ori?
so uh how should i clean up this thing ๐ญ
xfer
unless ur xfering ferrium like me
the amount of xyranite and heavy xyranite i offered (plus defeating nefarith) should have net me a whole month with her
I can't wait for the inevitable meta transfer in Wuling because the Xiranite sorcery everyone is about to do would be funny
is there no one put standard xira bp on blueprint channel
LC is 3 dense and 1 xiranite right?
Meta transfer xiranite + bottle filled with water or something
i do but.. its a double system
also iirc.. there is a whoel thread serves as a collection of xyranite bps ?
Is the maximum input of cuprium ore 240unit/min?
i only used the goat bp:
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you can check some of the xiranite bp for some... inspiration
I think if the reactors downstream of the passthrough are all clog-safe, then yes, the whole system would clog together
Hikarin and I both ran something like this when we were alternating 2 and 3 heavy forges (no batteries) during aic event
Oh wow that's efficient really
I still stash 1 output of my sandleaf powder
Yupp
oh, has anyone blueprinted Aorta's or Vort's stashless 7 subpac? I forget, Qyurii, did you have one too?
I threw fruit's 3 in marker stone but will probably end up having to pull one forge over to main for easier 10th switch
and my sky king flats is still Fruit's 2x3+1 but I would like to convert to stashless
i mean if u are feeding it just the 25/min then that's gonna be (25/30)/3 efficiency, so that's what
At least you have the ratios right!
See the thread harunachan linked above for an efficient arrangement of 3 of these, with all farming and shredding onsite
oh Greyhart already pointed oops
27.78% efficiency, so 1.667/min
Asia/NA-EU?
NA for me
ah oki, will look into it later
should be 25+30
because we got 60 new ori this patch
or I guess you could keep the previous partial 1.25/m SC and only use the new 30 for LC
that's probably strictly better since SC is higher stock bill value, but it still limits your heto to ~0.75x for ferri balance
at that point, might as well just set up the 2.75/m and 0.5x heto
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what was the old setup for the 1.25/m sc? i forget 
1.5 sc takes in half a line of sewage (15/m) and returns a quarter (7.5/m) right?
I am currently running this mess (right side is just to deal with 80k ori that built up)
and im meta transfering ferrium powder
10/min xira feed (assuming purification)
At least 10/m Xiranite minimum then 
so that one was easy to feed exact sewage, it was 1/6th split off the 0.75x heto or 1/8th off a refiner
since the limiting factor would be the dense ori, u can just let the xiranite clog and regulate itself
this will prio the feedback line (left) over the external line (bottom) right?
add a splitter on the left side to guarantee it, but the flow rate being lower should mean that it's offtaken successfully
of course, you need to pay attention whether that causes upstream clog in the bottom feed
wait, probably equal flow rates
no
feedback is 7.5
external is 15
I'm splitting it off from a copper line that has a downstream feed into test site
at this point idk what i am doing...... but this should be 1 + 5/6

i should take a break from endfield..
Shouldn't that be needing 30 sewage?
this is 1.5 sc
it takes 15/m sewage
so 7.5 external and 7.5 from feedback
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ok yeah and you said your other feed has overflow protection, looks good to me
ye the external feed goes straight into test site so no capacity problem there
I just split it off
wait sorry
if the feedback is 7.5
this will eventually clog
I would recommend putting the splitter just to be safe
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where's the sheets for this patch?
@brittle sedge i assume its because of the hetonite line, but im not sure, all the stuff that needed the powder is stable
the sc bats and the hetonite lines
sorry for late ping lol
set it to 2hr graph to see if prod and usage is the same, if so then theres no problem
i literally have no idea what to do with droplets of effluent from purification facility
i am
Sheets for?
prod calculation
water treatment plant can only treat 30 sewage a minute right?
yeah it's one line one plant
route them to test site
free
unless you have sth that use them
things that use sewage:
SC bats
heavy xira
SC Bats only use 2 sewage lines, so I guess I'll have to water treatment the rest
I think I saw a few from Miko
2nd heavy xira uses another
wuling fac limit after all rebuilding nightmare be like
u got link?
yeah I'll use one sewage line for that
you have 8.5 to 9 sewage line depending on if you're doing full heto or not
12 sc uses 2 line, 2nd hx uses another
ah fuck I guess I'll make a pipeline going from the Dam base to Test site for sewage, and then back for effluent
Better ask the owners of those calcs, just got them from the media tab in this channel
ye I'm going full heto
I guess I'll use up the free effluent for the 2nd HX
here's mine
why cant i tag u wtf
@valid gazelle oh there we go
wdym you cant tag me
i was trying to search your name
Youre it now

Im just going to bottle the effluent now
it clogged ?
ye that's the thing i was trying to say..
that entire thing still didnt solve the sewage problem
isn't the maximum of originium 540/min if i lvl up wuling region development to 14??
was it really possible to maintain balance while breaking it ?
who knows..


we still cant solve the sewage problem...
check for any ! mark on the mining spot
its solving 1 problem leads to another
yes
no, mine still in lvl 13
gotta wait till outpost lvl 3
chill to the quiet crackling sound of a nice cozy camp fire
It's telling me to jump in
lets break the mind of google gemini
whoa...
i'll skewer you can roast you like a marshmellow over the fire

If you don't cook me equally on both sides I'll haunt you 
when in doubt, pray to sandleaf god
Umm
sadly im not sadistic enough to put pipes from main aic to test area to check if the spreadsheet is correct
Yes! Jas the way I like it 
Can you use heavy Xiranite to make wuling battery ??? Or reverse it back Xiranite??? Is that a thing?
thats not a thing afaik, heavy xiranite is its own thing
heavy xyranite has no use except selling now that the event is over
Hetonite components and Liquid Heavy Xin bottles too
hxira capped so..
becoming that has more life chances than well done
brah
this will prio the purifier over the crucible right?
no, its other way around
its the expened
I thought the pipe that has the splitter is the low prio?
high
the high prio
it may not work correctly if you place it manually
btw is from behind is the lowest prio ?
u sure?
I'm monitoring and the cru is building up
is this 64/81?
is there any way to reach regional development 15 without raising the outpost level that just got added?
we give answer its your choice to do it
lowest prio is one thats stuck to a facility
if pipes? what the lowest priority for converger?
cru is the one clogging
not purifier
miracle
hi hi hi
- splitters
- belts/pipes
- facilities
remove the pipe from the puri and place it again and see
go to map, check the mission reminder for each map
good call, thanks
yup im at region level 15 and just about to sell for the new outpost lvl
huh
yeah ur right
if I disconnect both pipes and reconnect it works the other way
assuming you were at rdl 12 by the time of 1.2.2
- new depot node at test area
- 2 new ore areas in test area
- stock redistribution center in jingyu valley to lvl 4
and also offline
you placed splitter last so at that moment it got lowest prio
What is happening here
depot is full
depot full
Only now it tell me that
welp
are yall even bothering with HCV manual anymore or just burn two SCW straight
excel hax
dual scw
red colors 
oh wait its 30 sewage for 1 Xircon Effluent? Fuck this, I thought it was 4 sewage for 1 effluent like the purification unit
fuck this shit I'm not diverting this effluent to my main base
why meds tho?
theoratical data shinenigans
why not ?
connect them from testarea to main pac 
this took like 20 mins of my time and probably 10+ valuable Wuling city facility limit costs just to save like maybe 40 energy's worth of Water Treatment plants
more than 200 power
48 bills vs 22x2
do it the simple way
maybe once they buff it so its 4 sewage for 1 effluent, so I can use that for Heavy Xiranite forge
i kinda want to see your extra scw
is that 13.5 SC with ferrium meta transfer?
yes
its ok if u dont want to kill full heto
i dont like my max heto to vanish in my base also 
extra scw at top right at 1.5/m
is this 64/81 liquid?
Im fine with half heto
wtf is this monstrosity
No need to remove it if it's turned off
wait why do i need to see this i have higher scw than you...
64/81 = 0.79 nearly 0.8 which is optimal for a h.xir purrifier loop
hoarding all heto that i can, still producing
i'm not crazy. i swear
what could you possibly need or want those hetonite comps for
dont worry, i used to have max components as well. I will do it when wuling depot is maxed

for not getting clog lol
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im tired of the trend, maxing 48k, 58k 68k and 82k,... cant we just get max wuling depot

So we can only use the new Purification system at half capacity, right?
no, next is 100k
im sure its gonna be more than 120k when wuling is FULLY completed
heto parts i think
gonna safely assume we have ONE MORE depot node at last subpac
if HG are being consistent
Hetonite Parts can be sold at CRS Lv.3
BEHOLD THE BOTTLER 9000
double heavy Xiranite
right pipe is innert xircon to got the purifyer unit where ever you place it
hey, what are you guys producing now at max efficiency? im getting some leftover Xiranite and... maybe i can use the sewage from Hetonite to make more Heavy Xiranite? im not sure
so... when 1.3 gonna drop in ? about 2 more week? 
i wish soupsoup bought heavyX. i would have made 5+heavyX, 3lc setup
20 days
burning xiranite like there is no tomorrow, and wasting inert

no innert wasting, it go to connect with purifier unit
Guys...Is not the new purification node at Test area kinda...inefficient?
I mean...You place a lot of conduit nodes to get there...only to get 1 xircone every 30 waste.
How can you even make use of that?
1st heavyX , suppose to be free from full xircon, 2nd heavyX should be half free from every purif and loopback, only 3rd heavyX need to burn 30/m xiranite for effluent
short answer - no, not really
3rd heavy?
Good. Long answer?
main use is saving energy from having to use water treatment plants, since each sewage line would otherwise cost 50 energy to deal with
people tend to ignore the -300 power usage
each puri node is 2 cupr refiner right?
im not even excited to incorporate this converted effluent into my SC/hxira. im just bottling them and stocking it
apparently I'm doing xircon wrong?
It's supposed to be one for eff and one for sir
not two half eff?
Any idea what will break the factory if an item produces to max depot?
I only know aic breaks if i have max hetonite.
more
each purifier can handle 4
i see, in 3 week. after pristine battlepass is done, gonna adjust my base to not to die within 3 week and take a break for awhile 
can i see your AIC numbers thingy? so i can get a better idea on what to produce
yeah 18/m , if you errr wanna cycle forge
i do bottled, and use effluent later
@brittle sedge i'll leave it for the night.. and check my dense orignium in the morning
4 cupr refiner can fit 1 pipe?
usually anything that have connection to pipes
Sure, that is an upside...but you still get a pittance in xircone.
yes
each pipe carries 120/m (2/s)
each refiner outputs 30/m (0.5/s)
yeah I wouldn't bother with trying to use the xiranite effluent byproduct. At most you can save up miniscule amounts of xiranite
maximum resulting output is 0.2 which is first impossible, second less than 0.5 used by everything. but it's free and you can make either half assed production or alternating input production with that
I just recalculate and 3rd X (2.5) is not sustainable
ignore lin 18 comment, it was from old build
Max Hetonite breaks Acid (nad might max your Copium)
Max Copium Dust or Refined Copium breaks Batteries
Max Heavy Xiranite if you are recycling your Innert Xircon Effluent breaks Batteries
Idk what else
3rd hex is not worth doing you are lacking of resource to do it
Is it worth building an entire net of tubes for?
this
yes
ye but heto is the only thing using acid so maxing heto breaks nothing beyond not making heto
bcs it cant be calculate that way, bcs i am bottling 82k effluent, and slowly drain it later
it is worth for, atleast, sewage to save purification electricity
how much sewage for this? 
too interconnected 
what is your strategy
It is still a long way from Jingyu valley...
true but if the Curpium used by heto gets maxed in any way the refiners will stop working > no sewage
fair
guys.. if something clogs the production stops...
(meant to be wuling)
esp in the depot
3 full pipes
aka 12 stations
is it like 12/min sewage water?
Oh, sure... if not for the fact that I have set up cuprium lines inJingyu Valley and thus I'd have to invert layouts.
rn you can fit at most 7 xira into a subPAC right?
not automation friendly ofc, bcs we have excess xiranite, and excess effluent,
if you drain them, you can get the 3rd rotation, but it will drained fast for the raw xiranite part
i have 9
effluent part, is not an issue
XIRCON EFFLUENT BOTTLING CORPORATION
but why
6/second
why are you bottling eff
just feed them back into 2nd hxira it'll throttle xira instead
maybe because i decided to?
can someone at max efficiency show me their AIC Report?
what max efficiency is anymore..?
not too tryhard, no manual labor plz
well, piping is manual for all
thats not what i mean
depends on your interpretation of "max efficiency"
because at max efficiency, there are multiple configs of max efficiency but different max bills / hr
not a blueprint, just AIC Report. To see what i can produce to make the most out of all this materials... without requiring regular manual imput, just automated
dont care is there is wasted energy, not gonna play battery math
There's no 1 size fit all rn am p sure
just go to your favorite youtuber for that
selling to outpost is manual output. not doing that results in eventual sewage drowning
Jesus Christ, yeah i know i have to use my hands and click
Part of the game
Ppl have dif setup cos u no longer need to only be making a specific amount of stuff
@upper fiber wut? U sayin otherwise?
use mine
2 hour aic report
I tried replacing it, using the different input holes
meta dense ori
i wanna see your AIC Report instead plz
but for some reason this crucible wont receive any acid inside of it
thenks
Am p sure there r ppl who have done sheet calc to what is theoritically peak efficiency, but it's so unnecessarily complicated that i don't even know how many ppl run em
aight my pwm seems to work, i guess i can leave the factory alone now
and thats the thing that i want to avoid, yes
That's what u will get if u want the perfect max efficiency factory
the basic is still 12 scw, 12 heavyxira
are both the Xiranite Comps and the LC Bat using 1 belt of Dense Originium? Are you using Metatrasnfer?
meta dense ori
and as i said, i thats not what i want
Which is not max efficiency.
the meta dense ori is 25/min ratelimited belt setup
thanks
then 2 ori at 15/min belt setup
he only want the max efficiency between effort and result i think
Yeah i know, but that just mean u r not asking for max efficiency anymore
U r asking for lowest effort, highest yield
Which is 2 separate thing
yes
i did pipe to test area and back so uhhh
honestly not so bad doing it. it's like connecting relay towers in valley
from hub to quarry science park to lodespring etc
cause pipe length is 80m like relay tower connections
but doing it 2-3x....
i did 3 times
1 for Manifold Sweage, 1 normal sewage cuz 3 pipes max and 1 to take the Xircon back
It's nice if u make all ur sewage in city
and who knows, maybe i'll do a fourth one for Acid and stop bringing it from the bottom of the map
holding ALT so the pipe follows the mouse and not the character made placing them very easy
it's just huge height differences and some stairs that was painful . . .
doing what? thats news for me
Unless u want to bottle the sewage in other maps to unload in city for u to throw into those test area purifier
i see, you're another pipe mania
holding alt the pipe follows the mouse in the grid. you can move the pipe like 8-10 tiles away from the character standing still
Hm...
that... i did not know lmao
I should do that... Fk
wait... you using normal pipes?
it's how i piped this. stood by the edge moved it 8-10 tiles over the water
Wait you can bottle sewage, is this a recipe that i have to unlock ?
U can bottle sewage, yeh
oh wow thats crazy
Just slap bottle into sewage
til, thanks for the info
yup no character needing to jump in the water.
i just teleport with the Inlets/Outlets
why not just place a conduit at the treatment area, start connection then teleport to the waypoint where the screenshot is at?
the distance is like 180m or smthn from where i did it
legit faster to walk back
imo
5 Inlets/Outlets to make it from my factory to the purifier. 70% teleport
doing the sewage to the test area conduits faster

1 pipe xir effu back faster manually walking imo
what how is placing pipes faster than just teleporting
Oh my amwthyst bottle
because you just keep doing pipe withoutstopping
You can use that too :((
lmao true
If i get extra bored ill do cryston and steel botle too
I guess this is how ppl end up in the bottle cult
Hetonite bottle ๐
I hate bottling but for xircon effl ill make an exception
literally everyone piping their waste to one area lol
hg can we get heavy xiranite bottle
how, do you use that much power? ๐จ
but if you condiut from before entering Test Area > First teleport and then go Purifier > same teleport
you can cover like 350-400m in no time
pbly turrets
Yea im not a big fan of conduit, may try some bottle tranfering sheet
i do that for my Heavy Xira xdxd
they wouldnt let me use the Heavy Xira bottles form the event
Rich mf ๐ญ
i legit afraid conduit to purif test area, will got powercrept soon with new facility or some method to transfer better
you underestimate my loading screen times ๐
Hm....
Game tell me to use ssd for better experience, i ignored. Now i cry
just sell your spare parts lol
jajajaa this is on a Gov PC level. I get warning when opening the game.
But walking isnt necesarilly faster for me since if i go too fast map freezes me in one sport. Delivery is a pain
they are poor atm, cant buy my stuff
good question, i have like a ton of pumps that are left on that I don't use, and power turrets with relays instead of batteries, but i dont think they constantly pull power when not in use
phew, that was a lot of work but finally done, complette overhaul.๐ค
sub-1: 7x xiramite, 1belt sand powder
sub-2: 3x xiramite, 3belt sand flower, 3.5 heptonite part, 0.5 all 3 gear
main: 14.5 sc battery, 12 heavy xiramite, 5 yazen (A)
they do, unless you turn them off from the Tower or individually
go do the eas tower def thing ig
looks like i need to sell heto parts to sustain outpost bills, good thing it produces 17k worth only need 10k
ahh that explains a lot of it them
they probably made their office into this room
i have like 30 turrets running on the aic power then
swap to batteries they are deceptive
does their office have goth girls? dont think so
Isnt the game giving us kinda low stock bill rate, we produced so much item only to be left over
and also jingyu valley has the turrets from the tower defense that i havent touched
1 hcv battery to a tower is 55k power . . . enough for 5,500 shots iirc
shove 50 into a tower
imagine if they randomly decide to add a secret interaction showing some future plans lol
yeah i heard battery can last like 3 days

they only activate when the tower shoots
opps 54k
not 55
and how do they consume the battery?
Just enough to replenish, or every Xs while active?
50 bats last around a year tho
or even longer
wao
they only consume like 100 power every shot
its not draining power constantly
now i tempted to put 50x sc wulling battery in




