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@valid gazelle
the safest is still to have an extra production to catch the extra
How much Xircon Effluent does the test area provide in total anyway?
depends on how much you are sending
Not a lot even at max iirc, 7?
30 sewage = 1 xircon liquid
welp that is the thing.. everything is in perfect ratio so pushing in the extra bit breaks the balance
like.. actively draining the sewage ?
you said it, take the sewage out and split
normally you send about 4-5-6 sewage, depend on base design.
there are 8 cuprium refinery and 1 hetonite process.
normally : 2 sewage from cuprium used for sc line, 1 sewage from cuprium for a heavy xiranite, leaving 6 sewage source, 5 from cuprium, 1 from hetonite.
cus if no sewage then you just dont make xircon lol
Are the sewage pools in the test area finite?
Wait... so I would need 900 units of sewage per minute to create enough effluent to save a single belt of xiranite being fed into a crucible?
idt anyone counts sewage in minutes
7.5 completely full pipes.
count in seconds fam
I'm just surprised the test area isn't a new AIC location kinda tricked me because of the sewage area
The max Io for that is 3 pipes regardless lol
ye but... how would you "split" it in a way that it doesnt become lacking tho.. ?
also i have a feeling this might be a bit.. deficit on the sewage value (lol waste value)
because right now you are doing 1 sewage to 1 effluent.
and that 1:30 of a sewage is forcing 1 sewage to become 1:30 of a sewage... does that make sense ?
thats my question...
i know i need to split it
but how, what specific kind
idk.. but i have a feeling that the extra bit of effluent shouldnt be fed back into the system
on paper its still a little bit of xiranite saved
no way to have about 30 unit sending sewage into test area, at least for now.
so the effluent will be super slow.
it's like trying to do sc production with 1 orignium cube source.
slow effluent for slow xircon and slow orignium stacking in packaging unit, once the originium reach 20, same time with xircon from slow effluent reach 5.
it is true...
i dont see anything proving that its less efficient aside from breaking setups
I know it's not possible. Purely theoretical.
I guess I'd just get however much effluent I can grab and run it into splitter heading into a converger on the input of a heavy xiranite forge so it has priority input and then have an overflow drain on the crucible for sewage.
nvm, I'm dumb
also i have a feeling this might be a bit.. deficit on the sewage value (lol waste value)
because right now you are doing 1 sewage to 1 effluent.
and that 1:30 of a sewage is forcing 1 sewage to become 1:30 of a sewage... does that make sense ?
i still think it is a deficit.. math professors pls prove me wrong...
I think something clogged 
is there like, a whole blueprint for 'early game wuling' 
@subtle finch what is your take on this ? About feeding the extra effluent back into the system instead of making an extra production line
Check #1461542035617091681 for Qyurii's
this is still a great idea btw.. im interested in this and i think an overflow valve right now is the best option (period)
woah advertising 
the amount of effluent so smol it's negligible
I think you should be feeding it back in, but not into Xircon production. Just into a stand alone forge. When the crucible feeding the forge clogs you save a few xiranite and the sewage overflow gets sent to test site.
that "negligible" amount can brick a whole SIRcon line
or HXyra
thats not really the point
its like the difference between saving 2 dollars every 100 dollar purchase
and not saving anything
sure its just 2 dollars but its 2 dollars
by then it wont be "negligible" no more
waaay faster
Less actually, 30 min ish
we dont do things cus "its easy" or "its worth it" or "its profitable"
this is just a "cus we can"
and the next question is "but how"
because right now... for everyone who is using the test area.. it is not returning 1 effluent/min
it's giving 5..
at least
500 cigarettes
why so much effluent....

why not ?
guys
i think theres some inspiration to be taken from this
I remember it saying the upgrades make it more efficient or something. Maybe that's not reflected.
maybe i can apply something similar
it could be much simpler
the excess will always flow into puri nodes
actually in this case crucible is the overflow valve itself

is it true that for double expanded cru xircon you need to load some sewage in up front before you start?
you load the first one
the second one gets its sewage from the reaction sent by the first one
if you load the second one, it clogs
ye but if you start everything at the same time the first prioritize passthru over prod
like this
halo
remove the sewage pipe
oh... you are running half efficiency
how is protocol capacity measured? I just went through hell trying to pipe my cuprium sewage all the way to the purification node, had to remove half of my delivery ziplines
the only sewage here is the one for loading the first
welp 2 halves make 1 whole i guess
oh it's one for eff and one for xir
I thought it's two half eff
eh either works I guess
either works but.. dont you have to drain the 2nd crucible.. ?
wait no im stupid
this is how simple it is
yeah
Well... you could always use pipes instead of conduits until you get to test area. That's what I'm going to do.
๐ฅ wow
what needs to be drained?
vi, u got perli fumo pic bp?
Vi Sensei
yes
sahre it with me
i have this space smh 
lmao I am not doing all of that, I just have to zipline better (and hopefully it can fit in the remaining 35 PC I have)
i dont think its enough,...


Dont share code. Approval only gained by building yourself
oh
That's why i only send enkad
enkad fine too
1 pump can support 3 high purity copium?
yes
The conduits clipped thru the wall 
i remembered the sandleaf has a 3 output so fixed this a bit
i'm using 1 pump for 3 high purity copium and somehow the mining rigs are thirsty
shut them down
Maybe it's simpler than I'm thinking... maybe you have transfer on ferrium, and you just dump all the effluent into a new crucible, send the sewage output to test site along with the rest and use the few extra xircon to make a few SC batteries with the two excess belts of originium.
wait for wa'ur to fill up
@valid gazelle testing this out
and turn them back on
ill see what happens in like 6 hrs
i hope it works
so uhh is this normal lol
you are full on sandleaf powder in your depot
ah i see
fuck why do i think this wont work
i think i need a self clog somewhere
easiest way to solve this is to split off the sewage source
like I did

i'm connecting the purification node to main pac ts way is there a better way
i'm using 4 pairs of conduit with some 80m pipes
Yes not black out 
how are you using 6.93k
is bro powering the turrets
Even with the turrets it's too much lol
Many zipline
zipline takes like.. 5 right ?
Ye
Almost finished with my main AIC, thanks for the inspiration
Use pwm reserve power to 18% left
Need some adjustment later, need overhaul
also i somehow just realized that they're double sided lol
i kinda wonder about the stuff that i have that i can just move there
You can place depot loaders/unloaders on any side
Even on short
Wuling making depo loaders actually useful
I would like to have 3 input ports on them but whatever...

extend it bro
i guess i'll move my planting units on the other side
haruna ~
and maybe the shredding units too
yea as i expected, the range is about that
did the TP enough?
wait I'm gonna do this
I did
Use all sides, you paid for them
thats good
@marble yarrow am I wrong ? (It's about putting the extra bit of effluent from test area into the system)
some ferium 13.75 splitters in game tests:
for battery production
(new tests for just 3 pixel wide in progress)


i'll avoid any math that is related to purification node (for protest)
aight

Endless loop 
damn that 1:30
there is no such thing as "free effluent" - Master Oogway
it looks more impressive in 3D...
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what about that wall in Cardiac
does it cut your factory
What wall?
I badly needed the zipline here
I used zipline tech:
- stand on safe pixel in place A
- go by zipline to place B (DONT TOUCH THE GROUND and stand or jump only on placed buildings)
- grab the pipe and after die in water and game will tp you to place A)
There's a wall?
Here is my abomination of an excess xircon production section
ye ? Cardiac lv 3
Idk i never noticed
does it still work
yes
but now you can't move it or it'll go away
exactly..
Wtf...
and here's mine

aight im ok with this
Damn lc battery setup
Are there more amethyst rocks to be discovered after the 3rd zone?
nope ~
240 max yes
that's all you get
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Why is your ferrium so little
Ferrium time.
Probably just starting
you should focus on Ferrium ~
because just reached the 4th zone
OOOOOO TY!
I find it funny how valley ratios are so straight forward and then we have this mess in wuling
Amethyst is usable for now.. but once you are at endgame Valley 4 (V4) you wont be use amethyst much
we're not at the end game yet
actually can you pipe across this gap.... it's not possible right?
should be..
It's all because metatransfer
I mean, yes, but on the other hand.
Idk wtf the idea is with the test area effluent return.
The amount is pitiful
k my hxira is backed up....
sadly the space on the other side is too smol
and moving the depot buses would be time-intensive
I can finally enjoy my retirement 
its ~90m
Don't know how I did it but somehow managed to lag my game with my aic


I should go make
into belt art
Na make fluid videos
do it so i can stole ur enka version 
If you utilize the right side of buses more by using unloaders to align the other grinders and dense ori stuff you can have more space to move the whole bus
-# Abandon the unsymmetrical Automation Core 
Sewage inlets showing 2s sewage treat each...that how max cuprium ore lines per each?
not enough free space for fumo....
@valid gazelle
im having trouble understanding that question...
8 lines max right now right?
oooh

ye right now we can only have 8 copium refineries
Make space

sounds like a YOU problem


smh the valves didn't work
smh..
you besmirched perlifumo
Do you think it's better to copy some giant blueprint with everything in it or create my own factory step by step? I haven't really touched the factory after starting production of Buck Capsules [B], LC Batteries, and some essentials like Explosives, Cryston Parts and Components, so I'd have to plan everything from the start either way.
UNACCEPTABLE
Put the belts underground
Time for execution
pls do create the factory yourself *with reference from others bp
you can always learn but copying without understanding will put you in a pinch in the future
besides you can ask here for help
I wonder if it's cus the flow rate goes over 1/s somehow when things backup
asking the AIC channel if they should make their own design
The answer is always going to be yes cuz this demographics is baised
mmm what would be the fastest way to reach regional dev lvl 14? i managed to level up both outposts to 3, and i'm a little ways off from 12, but like- is it just an exploration thing? is there something specific i can do to power my way up to 14 rn?
Level up depo and stuff
interesting; rn im thinking about having the shredders all on one side and the grinding units on another
yes its an exploration thing, base on which objectives you have done
how are you at 11 with lv3 outposts, do you never upgrade stuff
Reach lvl 4
also i didn't know that you can do this
There's no better people to ask ๐
i- i can't? ๐ญ i'm locked out of outpost exp gain
Whats the max amount of sewage/min 3 inlets at test area can handle?
Level up the recycling stations, terminals, depot nodes, monitoring center
Upgrade monitoring center, every recycling unit, get every ore beds
time to manually back things up and see why it broke 
I didn't touch most of the side quest, level 14
And depot
Side quest don't give a ton
I suggest taking a look at modular builds
๐ค
I placed like this (most of pipes are 80m)
It's mostly going to be depo, stock exchange and environmental monitoring station
you can
Dang my ocd is tickling me

recycling stations count, right? i should go back and max all those ๐
howtf
What in god's green Talos 2
They count, I should go max mine as well lol
k guess I have work to do, but that's a lot of logistics
think I can do it with conduits?
trans-wuling pipeline
how u connect monitoring center to test area
28 spare pipe logistics I'm not going to use it like this
how
tp
teleporting
is this the teleport trick

hmmmmmmmmmm

i sorta just assumed they removed that after 1.0 lmao
don't need ziptech for that one though ig that could be easier if you're good at it
wireless liquid transfer when bro
you would like seeing conduits
i wonder if there are ways to make this more compact lol
YES XD
Thats so cursed๐
Step 1:
I want to create [this] > [this] requires [that]
v v
[this] requires [that] I create [that]
v v
I create [that] loops until you reach
v the start of the
loops until you reach production line
the start of the
production line
depot liquid storage when bro
this

endfield is too broke to store anything other than items ๐ญ
bruh this belt art remind me to ascii art lol
i want to create [X]
v
i can't
v
give up

someone donate to endmin
bro what in the hell ๐ญ wdym i'm like 5 points off from level 13, just gimme level 13 already
82k liquid depot when smh
Endfield bottling corporation
i honestly don't even know anymore

82k GAS depot soon
"5 points off"
Wait how?
for tubes over river
#aic-factory message
you missed few number
and arithmetic class
just put planter - seed - planter and belt them together
that's crazy
5 points, 5%... same difference
(we're ignoring the fact that i fail calculus but passed with a 101% in stats) 
(tubes don't have distance limit (while building) so you can place tube start on one side and just go arround)
So start placing pipe then walk all that way there then press "change direction"?
Jas you gotta explain
yes, but kill enemies on the way (they will force you to exit building mode)
how in the
Put the Seeding in the middle
a friend is telling me that her Wuling factory consumes over 12k in energy
is there even enough placement capacity to achieve that?
how the hell do you people make a straight line from observation station to the test area
im more or less interested in how many expanded crucibles she's using
I mean the pipes
335 of 25000 is 5%? sure
wtf
like I could see 9k if it's just that horribly unoptimized
but 12?
my factory is so bricked
your friend's doubled yours
Yupp. Your bps will be very popular 
bricked up
A lot of repeated planting + seed picking + grinding
nah I'll leave the tutorials to @dense blade Net sensei
wtf am I even doing with this eff I conduited back
even facility and space should restrict

Are they using sand leaf for carbon
like this?
you mean like this one or basic pipes?
yes
I'm convinced there's not even enough space to do that, since I capped out the placement capacity and I'm just below 6k
Cuz your power consumption explodes if you're using double the needed planters for xiranite
Is it better to create big farms for stuff like powders and amethys fibers, or have every product line start from raw ores?
it's probably this, now that you mention it
okay I guess the place is important
gotta be like grid turrets and stupid amounts of extra buildings like expanded for heto 1 puri per crucible sandleaf for carbon
gang it's a joke that ain't meant to be taken literally ๐ญ
it depends:
- If you have many production lines that shares the same materials, you can have farm for such materials
- If a production line is the ONLY one requiring the material then you can have the material integrated into that line as well
meanwhile its already explodes
so I'm like really stupid or something.. how do I perform audio scans for OD Project: REmediation Station II?
oo, i realized that i can just loop the thing lol
gj ~
my return effluent pipe is too jammed I can't shove it into my sc line without bricking
you made yourself infinite sandleaf
this is a gamechanger
Thanks
Scan then look for the audio cues on the floor and interact with it
where did sewage go?
now remember: With great sandleaf comes great (depot) responsiblity
zipline tech:
- stand on safe pixel in place A
- go by zipline to place B (DONT TOUCH THE GROUND and stand or jump only on placed buildings)
- grab the pipe and after die in water and game will tp you to place A)
the eyeball scan tool?
your* eyeballs
you can lead conduit pipes on a zipline???
no
but during teleportation yes
Engineers will be ballin their eyes out seeing these long ass pipes above sea lvl
and die triggers teleportation to last safe pixel you was standing on
ah yes, i know this trick, this is definitely the easier way to do it ๐
well, guess i will try to minmax 4 pair of manifold
can we zipline while connecting conduits? or is it like relays in valley4
I don't really understand how I can stand only on placed buildings if they are slippery ๐
a small mistake that a lot still do til this day... is
- putting the plant in the planter
- putting the seed in the seeder
and wonder why it doesnt work
I need video demonstration
i had a stroke reading this
btw also same action here to connect energy
I am losingmy mind
you need to zipline and do not land lmao, it will return you to your last ground position before zipline
what in the world..
how is this not working
is it bc of pipes being weird
this should work mathematically
my factory is so cooked 
is this a double SIRcon ?
what you're taking sewage out of xircon ofc it's not going to work
oh right,..
the extraction happens before the reaction
you cant take sewage out its gonna drain
full depot and whatever this is
huh, this design is familiar
hxira getting sun
@dense blade
idk if jumping actually makes a difference when delivering goods, i'm trying to scrape together stock bills to upgrade my stock node to lvl 4
okay
yeah my conduit is full so I need flow reducer
I don't know what that is, but it looks so cursed
nice ~
ye....
Whats highest production of wuling SC battery per minute right now ? (if i am using skyforges for 12/min heavy xiranite)
dont worry i didnt know that either
Blame the never ending exams
Iโve not slept in 21 hours
I learned that the hard way
BRO

so long as you DIDN'T DO THIS
you are good
WAT
I made jingyu into a heptaforge
ok tbf most of the time was outside
ok
I didnโt play endfield for 21 hours today
14.75 iirc when metastorage dense ori then using the extra xiranite
Im going to die
oh yeah, u can burn 3 sandleaf dust into was it 2 carbon 
bottle it, cmon
is it possible to connect a manifold to 2 singular conduit outputs?
The summary is if you donโt touch the ground it tp to your last โgroundโ location? Or it doesnโt always work?
swim in it
Iโm going to die before you
wait whats the issue with this
(other than using the sandleaf for the carbon lol)
you are implying zipline > fall into water?
Yea because of me
what
bottle it, and use it like.... 1 week later? lmao
I will be the cause of death
now i def need to simplify this
Net pls help...
help me
dude the sewage shit wasnโt the problem
Iโm gonna crash
IT DOESNT WORK
1:1 ratio in conduits whether it's the manifold or small one
help.. HELP ME

the sewage monster is coming
im a gonna die
possible
YES 2 way, jump into between unpowered facility (for example seed unit), for floating bug (for 30s without touching ground is the same as... just jump and drop into abyss right away)
wait wait lemm.. rethink about this

here it is
@dense blade i'll take a look at it again
Incoming mr breast photos
yes
LMAO WHAT
Bro thinks
mr breast ... ?
The one who give a lot of money
Is it really useful to connect all the sewage to the test area? Cuz I canโt think of a way to use the liquid xircone, even at max is not hight efficiency to create heavy xiranite no? Or not now but in the future we will have more sewage?
it wasnโt the provlem

I figured it out now
guh
Iโm stupid as hell

@daring rapids at this point stash it away
holy
I wish sewage wasnt my problem
oh why it dont became in app viewable
Is there anything else beside these that will be needed at some point to the point of requiring their own product line?
Steel Parts, Explosives, Buck Capsules [A], HC Valley Batteries, Xiranite Components
never fail design
well has it work any time today ?
dude my aic stats are trolling bruh
how do I have 270 xira yield when every forge is down and running
this is so tilting
The new 4 forges are used for a new max prod heavy xiranite?
okay so...
End product:
- Bucks A
- HCV (HC Valler)
- Components
Mid production (they are materials for end products): Steel, Dense Orignium, etc etc like the middle materials
Thank you ๐
you can make them into 1 production line, and you can break it into parts or "modules" in case the production line gets too big or too fat or not in a desirable shape
since 1 complete production line can be looooooooooong
only 3 if optimized
or F A T*
How? Rn Iโm using all my 8 like this: 4 x batteries (xircone), 3 x heavy xiranite, 1 x xiranite for slow additional battery production
my neurons are dying
automatically downloading nah imma just to go YouTube
So i found out the most realistic use for 60/m originium ore.
I just need to set up purification for inert xircon to make additional xircon
However there's not enough ferrium ore, that could be solved with regional transfer.
why not xira comps
Half your Hetonite production for 15/m ferrium powder

Ive got maxed out xira comps
Running at full capacity is the way to go hahaha
@tidal pecan For maximum efficiency.. read the formula
this is an example (LCV)
I'm not good at explaining sorry, I just know you can save a forge worth of Xiranite if you use the effluent from Test Area and use the minimum required for the effluent crucibles and a lil bit of Xircon for more SC batts ๐ญ
nah don't
not worth it
Regional transfer provide 25/m ferrium ore while additional xircon only requires 22.5 ore /m so that should solve extra 60/m originium

I know, I tried 
Any schizos trying out 8 forges in jingyu yet?
I just feed it to left-over ferrium for xircon
Try? Yes.
Success? Not really
Donโt worry, me neither as English is not my first language, Iโll make som math with that to see if it works!!
Conditions are?
You can only get 1 unit xircon efflu per 5s from running max sewage plant, hardly enough to replace 1 forge
its definitely not worth it
the safest way for me is to store the effluent into bottle. use it LATER when near 80k
so it send out 30/m effluent, best ratio
oh i just realize... can also reach test area with teleport from monitoring center...
yeah ppl said its almost almosssst 220m before breaking
You're right, maybe it's half. Im getting confused 
yeah it was at 214
Yeah that sucks, I fried some brain cell yesterday trying to think of a use. Did they add it without knowing what to do with it?
have to walk back and jump a bit
Cause I'm only saving 12/m rn
Probably feature for future usage, i couldnt think of any reason why they would provide upgrade feature if that is not the case. Pretty pricey too.
oh shite my controller died
there's a side mission that briefly utilizes the puri nodes
there are two sewage pools near it
The 2 sewage pool right? Done that too

Still doesnt explain the pricey tag just for small quest completion
really.... ?
just gave up and use 2 scw
this is not wuling
Yes but you only need 1 and itโs not useful for the factory, also the output, itโs so slow
even worse
Delete game ๐
Is this maxout or am i missing something ? ๐
Aw hell nah
bro is powering a continent
some more splitters
yes :)
uh, are expanded crucibles faster than the reactor crucible?
there is no such a thing as faster production
no but they can do the same work of 2 reactors
Yes'nt
They can do multiple recipe simultaneously
damn, so, '2 for the price of one' basically
it..... could translate into
1 expanded crucible = 3 crucible
less power and do all 3 production type
wait then does that mean i can just use expanded crucible to make liquid xiranite AND xircon effluent + inert simultaneously..
It's just me or the xircon efluent from the Test Area is a scam?
Saves you 1 protocol capacity but 100 power (equal to 2 normal crucs which is 50 each)
exactly
and you can make SIRcon with it too
ahaha, that aside.. can this.. be optimized..
so instead of passing 3 reactions through 2 reactors
you can use 1 expanded reactor for 3 reactions
genuinely idt there's like, any hetonite component factories ๐ญ
what's xircon use btw
Use Wuling Plants (Yazhen/Jincao) for carbon
Optimize is an understatement 
Hello AIC chat
SIR con

exactly
SIRcon
i mean, incase you havent seen ;;; i use sandleaf because it translates to both carbon AND sandleaf powder, if i used wuling plants it'd mess the whole thing up even more
Anybody got ideas to route Sewage line from the test site to the other sub AIC area?

basically the work of 2 reactors in 1 expanded
@upper fiber did i say something wrong ?
@copper geyser back in 1.1
everyone NEED to use 10 crucible to make 60/m xircon
in 1.2, we only use 4 expanded crucible for 60/m xircon
have you like, tried to use conduit inlets + outlets out in the wild LOL
But Wuling plant into refine is 2 carbon which saves you a bit more space
PIPING
RAAAAHH
Feels like too long of a way tbh
must pipe all the way to test area raaaahh

or 4 sets of manifolds
2 reactors can make 2 liquid yazhen, expanded only 1 but can do 3 reactions
i did say no to faster reaction
@valid gazelle works so far but the xircon effluent for hxira is running out very slowly

eh ? lack of effluent ?
yeah, but two of my conveyors are connected to the said machines and so that i can maximize space... if i place another planter loop it'd just be a waste of space...
If i put the extra effluent in there, the other scw will die
doesnt that mean lack of sewage ?
oh..
Cus purification takes less inert since the scw cruicbles also produce less
omg it's qyurii
back to the sewage problem: not enough sewage usage to create inert

So i think the next step is to split the xircon effl like 2-1-1 hxira/scw/scw
hello
Make sewage
W8 what yall target yield?
Not really
There is enough sewage
Just that the scw is not producing xircon effl due to having enough
btw, sandleaf only produce 1 so you can't use 2 belts because it will be halved
yes but.. are you using it enough to make inert..
Why yall having issues in inert?
hnnghhh i wish expanded crucibles was actually faster, if i had like, better income for wuling money i'd probably solved this problem long ago..
Nope lol
there's only 1 way to make inert
Not using sewage enough
and that's sewage..
So hmm
ye,,,
Yea i js have to split even further
the balance is still broken
Ill work on it when i get home
kay
this is like 1/3 of the puzzle
then you are using it incorrectly
yeah i think i've made too much sandleaf whereas both the refining units and the shredding units are clogged
forcing the extra effluent from test area into existing lines
but hoenstly.. you are... putting a lot of thoughts into using that extra bit of effluent
May the forge be with you
May the forge be with you
Its the most exciting (and frustrating) part of the game
why not create additional line for it
Not sustainable
there's no fun in that
oh noooo
this is what happens when game have a limitation of 15 turrets
I use 3 crisper in middle
honestly its 1 problem solved to create a new one

you might want to read the output result on the machine.... that's such a waste
what output result
So lets say I have 8/m effluent from test site
4 goes to hxira
2 each to both scw lines
atp take me away from this game it's probably a sin to have someone like me on this game ๐ญ
tap the machine and check the recipe
is it normal that with 4 reactors (3+ 1 expanded) i'm only making 15 hetonite/min? 
Scw lines will produce less inert, meaning less for the purification for hxira, but the loss is compensated by the 4/m
Tf?
you wanna balance the inert to eff to make sc? Dang thats gonna be hard
yes
The lion does not concern itself
you need 8 (1 expanded included) to max efficiency
Both grinders and the Xiranite Forge run at half eff.
If you:
a.) remove the whole grinder set on the right side
b.) Add 1 Yazhen Farm then connect the output to Refine
c.) Use two carbon outputs into 2 shredders
d.) 4 carbon powder into 2 grinders (2 each)
e.) Use 1 more output of Sandleaf powder from the shredding (it produces 3)
f.) add 1 more refine for the dense carbon powder
You'll have your forge working at full efficiency 30/m
I have been destroying my brain attempting it
guys where are the delivery destinations in test area i wanna setup ziplines
island on type c area 1
bottom of type c area 3
and where else
the amount of people who use GIGA TONS of plant and effort to make 30/m xiranite,
is a lotssss 
But that would mean no more batteries getting produced.. no? 
top left, top right, bottom right
i'll try
Okay then how much free sewage/min are we talking here?
this is the .. 5th one ? in 3 days since the update
Idk
and im concerned
pookie
where is bottom right exactly?
I dont care about specific ratios
We only have like 8 cuprium lines
The issue stems from the fact that the game doesn't tell you it's a 2:1 ratio for wuling plants in the database until you actually unlock it

2 is being used in 12/min sc
Its to the top left of the originium nodes pooks
Like i didn't know until my friend told me back in 1.0
Haruna goat
if you are running half hetonite then its 5.5 lines of sewage
thank you guys
a full line of hetonite gives 6
love y'all
ive seen too much variation
ive seen people that utilize ground buckflower powder to make xiranite
citrome, and mostly sandleaf, they are everywhere
even on 1.0 
Whut? Nahh lets make it 6/min
wait, dangit, dont tell me i have to remake my whole system again
you're using ALL of the copium ?
my routes rn
damn..
Not exactly
Pretty much
Yes
Get used to it 
12/min scw uses less than 2 refiner worth if you put the effluent in
Its just a thing
sigh
kinda... true, yeah
but mostly the hidden fact issue is, "no friend" to tell you that

More xircon effl = less xircon effl produced = less sewage use
Na na don't do it now
Play something else and come back later
The main problem is to deal with that extra sewage
Like this except the farms are below or separate (ignore the water pipes)
No no no, u misunderstand, ofc 6/min heavy xira is in the equation
sigh
wish all stuff use sewage now
Give me a working solution NOW!!!
i cant make the cleaner produce max eff of 5 s
Okay now put some extra effluent into those crucibles
Bro chill im breaking down every part of it lmao
or they make infinite sewagepool uwu
Now you use less sewage
What? Hell nah
wtf
What, youโre gonna put it in the hxira?
Thats less inert xircon processing
So scw takes a hit
5.5k power
not half bad right?
Bro chill imma look at my spreadsheet first
perfect setup
I have some unhinged ideas but that's gonna create more problems down the line
now I'm really debating trying to pull test site xircon back too
Look faster
why not we're alreadu having a lot of problems on hands
wheres the sewage for 2nd haft?
bc I'm alr bottling extra eff
Before my fire swallows you whole
doesnt need it

Auuuu it's so ASSS
ye two ways to do 2 cru xircon
either one do eff and one do xir
ehh what now
or two halfway
the effluent provided from the first half will create the reaction to make SIRcon, which creates sewage for the 2nd half to effluent on its own and then create SIRcon
Im meta orig full heto
You need acid to make hetonite liquid
To make the better heto liquid you need acid
And after you make it it makes sewage
something like this could work, right?
Do you need sewage from hetonite lines or nah?
Cause that will become 8lines of sewage again
for 12 per min heavy xira are you guys running 2 heavy xira forges or just the one?
where's the sheet for this patch
2 ofc. 1 forge can only do 6 max
Not efficient use of sandleaf
two
one from SC inert
one using one more xira
sth like this
im getting janky numbers
But sure as a copium sniffing solution
nope
made this, works nice,
but +0.25 for heto part means more space + 1 reactor and + 1 purification unit so I think I will go back to 14.75 / 12 / 6 / 3 ๐ค
I use the sewage from heto to make 6 hxira separately
Its not in the equation
this is also me making the batteries too tho
this will clog itself at half efficiency
what's the issue then ;;;
1 minute
that also is far from complete sandleaf loop
?
Is this like, 2 sewage in or 4 sewage in?
or just 1 sewage?
That's why I hate designing xira loops tbh
Its so tricky to thread the sandleaf without exploding the space
how the fuck..
- You arent creating carbon to shred... you are shredding yazhen/jincao into medicine
- the ratio is 1 plant is burnt into 2 carbon. So you are missing 1 output from the refinery which means more production than extraction = clogging at half efficiency
- Again.. the ratio is 1 carbon shredded into 2 carbon dust, which means you are also missing 1 output from the shredders too

But 6/min heto gives 2 lines of sewage
if ur making 6/min hxira, u have extra 1 line of sewage+ 1 line of inert
So basically you have 7lines of sewage + 1 line of inert
i dislike plant loop SET as it usually waste tons of space anyway, and need too much effort to utilize their unused green grass space
Pretty sure its just 1 line
Its just so schizo no matter how you look at it
Its only the final step that produces sewage

hey could i check whats the max production after the new patch? is it 12 heavy xira, 6 yazhen, 12 SC Wuling Batts?
Nah
I refuse to believe that this is how you're supposed to carry sewage all the way from the Stokade to the Test area . 
You use 60 ferium for what
it gives only 1..
Its 30. I just clogged it
yall think this is the best I can do in terms of space for 120/m heto?
wait this is an easier stuck
ive been using 2 expanded for the forges whoops
Why do you need 2 expanded ones anyways
and multiplY everything on that screenshot by 4-5
and DOUBLE that amount 1 more time, if you plan to take back home the ewww effluent

12 hxira, 6 yazhen A, 1.5 yazhen C, 13.5 scw, 15 heto
is what I have rn
Its 6/min heto part.

jas is giving HUGE spoon feeding
Anywaysssssss
where's the sheet for this patch
hetonite only give 1 sewage ... no matter how hard you try..
each of those is producing half a line of sewage

๐ฅ
Like the only justification is to align the tick rate
6 sewage lines +1 inert
so it bakes back to a max of.. 9 sewage lines max to the test area...
But that's solved by just dumping excess into pipe
We can only make 1.5/min extra sc from the orig that we get this update
2.75 actually
each node can take 4 sewage lines...
soo
that single 30:1 ratio is giving me headaches
BRO U SAW MY CHART
2.75 if meta but yeah
Is it even worth it
meta ferrium sucks..
if an extra 2.something SCW is worth it then go for it i guess ?
dense orig is utter fire
sensei not charting!?
I'm free ballin tbh
we all autistic here
Idfk rmbr i just do things and they just work
no this sensei is practicality only
charting is for other senseis
like Hikarin sensei or Haruna sensei
Charting is kinda useful
or Qyurii sensei
Nah i only charted for this patch 
Ugh i forgot that i will need to somehow find space for multiple outlets ๐ญ you're right ๐
Nice
I'd chart if the ratio is more of a mess.
This barely scratch the Factorio mess I've seen
so minmaxing sewage lines we run puri nodes at 75% efficiency

Yea that xiranite looks mostly accurate
do i connect both outlets to this thing? can it only handle 1 such outlet or multiple??
How do you yield 305 xira
you can split it to 2 nodes its fine
@jovial breach no way?!?!?!
I'm probably gonna get a bunch of those so i'm thinking how many can i connect to a single purifier without clogging 
these pipe benders
whar
holy
OHHH cuz you use the
Icic
What are some fast sources of regional development level?
man your pipe bending skill levels up everyday jesus
5.62 Xircon eff x0.8= 4.496 xiranite
The pipe is so bent it's not loading
does the purification node stop working if the xircon effluent is full?
Thats why i got extra 4.5 in the chart
Its unclogggable
Its made to be a sewage blackhole

at this rate, you will CONNECT purification node and CORE AIC area without a single conduit

Uh ok yea and then
Where do you offload the eff to?
nice, i don't on plan using it lol
i just want to reduce electricity usage by replacing the water treatment
sure
It goes to the 2.75/min sc thats ur going to make
Sadly the decimals isnt optimal
I hate it







