aic-factory

[grave veldt]

Wow, this is useless

[green sleet]

Fair point. Steady as she goes, then.

[foggy pasture]

You make like an extra battery or two per minute if you bother to set it up now, probably would be more useful in the coming patches.

[cosmic lava]

hey, at the very least it gets rid of sewage without consuming 50 power per 1 sewage/2 seconds

[storm garnet]

we get so little the rate is more like 1 battery per hour

[grave veldt]

Thankfully i don't price my life low enough to care about min maxing power in factorio game

[green sleet]

At the low low cost of protocol spots for conduits lol

[foggy pasture]

fair, but my numbers say its a steady 13/m

[storm garnet]

just from that effluent?

[foggy pasture]

yeah

[storm garnet]

also, aic report can't handle decimals

[hardy tangle]

yes and no, in a constant rate of 6/min (6 sewage sources)
takes aprox 9.5 days to get 82 000 units of effluent
which allows you to process up to 16 400 heavy xiranite

[foggy pasture]

i mean I've seen it go up to 14/m so its between 13 and 14

[hardy tangle]

which you can bottle up and use whenever you want, be it weekly or whatever

[foggy pasture]

i don't know the math for it, I just did it

Its not too hard to set up, albeit its a bit messy

[storm garnet]

are you feeding that extra xircon directly to the packager or using depot in between?

i guess it's not zero

now i want to do the math for 7.5 rate...

[hardy tangle]

a bit.

[foggy pasture]

I feed Test Site's Effluent directly to the Xircon Crucible

Inert Effluent from 2nd Heavy Xiranite Production gets purified and sent to Xircon Crucible

Xircon Sewage gets pumped back to Test Site

[hardy tangle]

holy spaguetti

[storm garnet]

ok, then you get more than just the purified effluent, you also use inert

[foggy pasture]

I mean Waste Treatment and Purfiication takes the same amount of power, just more footprint which I have plenty of

[grave veldt]

Every fluent use is like 30-60/m so yea i am happy to combine 12 sources of sewage and bring 3 pipes across entire wuling to run something at 20% of fluent needed

[storm garnet]

just so you guys know, with 4/s sewage purified, the effluent we get let us make 0.125/min sc batteries

extreme speed!

[hallow monolith]

there are 3 routes, thats the shortest (230m, like 3 zips)

[storm garnet]

i hate that they always put this mission at the last week

easy to do, but i have to remember to do it on purpose

[foggy pasture]

i hate that it doesn't count for how much you actually sell, just that you do it 10 times

[warm maple]

max yield + usage for valley iv?

[storm garnet]

560 240 1080

usage of ori can be 540 and it's fine

[uneven aspen]

looks like im using too much xiranite now

[undone current]

in total how much effluent we make? 193/min?

[foggy pasture]

about 193 yeah

[versed ermine]

i like how space can now be a constraint if you're not careful when planning or building, 12 sky forges are quite hungry for real estate

[fallen raft]

is there a way to create Heavy Xirenite without clogging?

[foggy pasture]

yeah, are you clogging on sewage, water or inert effluent

[versed ermine]

you should try to reuse all of your stuff, but otherwise you can just dump all the stuff into a water treatment unit

[uneven aspen]

it's fine if you have a somewhat efficient 3 forge blueprint to spam.

[foggy pasture]

yeahh optimizing for footprint is the one thing I focus on, bonus points: you modify your factory less each patch

[hallow monolith]

lowkey i wish they increased the limit... i want to clear the whole list

[versed ermine]

i got 10 forges making normal xiranite, all of them are single blueprint, and i even store the surplus sandleaf powder for the batteries and for the delivery dailies

[tribal crescent]

rate my 5/24 splitter chat

[versed ermine]

tbh the water treatment sector feels kinda underwhelming, it was annoying to reroute all my sewage and then do all that piping for so little in return

[tribal crescent]

you get to save power

[late imp]

Yay my core aic now fit 8 forge at full efficiency

[foggy pasture]

yeah you save like at minimum 250 power

[uneven aspen]

so I have 40 xiranite, 60 originium and a metatransfer, how to use up 100%?

[versed ermine]

i had to move all my cuprium refining to the core AIC area along with the xiranite forges, i only ended up running into building limits for wuling city...

[late imp]

Now how the hell can i make it 10 forge with out imploding it

[versed ermine]

that place needs a higher limit

[foggy pasture]

Protocol Space is such an unneceesary constraint

[surreal lantern]

finish additonal dragging from the maker to test site also make it save up to 300 power at the cost of your sanity

[warm maple]

could it be cause my purity isnt max? i think i have all rigs

[undone current]

nah, drag acid from test area

[tribal crescent]

be like me and pipe it all the way from marker to test area

[foggy pasture]

only the criminally insane would do this

[tribal crescent]

trust me it's not that hard

[versed ermine]

well, you get some effluent, almost enough for that 1/4th of a battery factory that you can make with your whoping 60 originium surplus, lol

[tribal crescent]

when you actually get down to it

[tribal crescent]

indeed

you should bottle acid

then separate it at main instead

[undone current]

yes

[foggy pasture]

or you know, just use the cardiac AIC for hetonite and call it a day

[uneven aspen]

Yup pipe length is 80m then you add a pipesplitter and continue. Very similar to connecting relay towers in valley 4

[surreal lantern]

i would want to drag acid from test area, only if not for 512 limit

[uneven aspen]

Pipes use a different limit

128 iirc

[versed ermine]

my test area makes all the xircon and hetonite, i like it that way, lol

you're even sewage neutral if you make a single cuprium refiner there

[earnest steeple]

All your originium should go towards batteries, and it'll use up most of your xiranite. you can meta transfer dense orignium powders. You won't need a lot of xiranite components unless you plan on artificing soon, since as soon as your base upgrade you'll swap to a different items.

[foggy pasture]

All my cuprium is refined in the main AIC so I don't waste a drop.

Cardiac exists to make hjetonite and hold my random sandleaf farms

Jingyu Valley is forever sentenced to making 7 forges of Xiranite

[uneven aspen]

I'm only 4k xira components want more

[foggy pasture]

I made 48k and haven't looked back

[unborn pendant]

wait do we get an outpost here at the test area??

[graceful wraith]

Do I have to touch the purification node to make 18/m hxira?

[uneven aspen]

Also lc bat is for if we get a new outpost for earlier levels

[foggy pasture]

No, it feels like there's supposed to be one though

[solid quiver]

I made 45k xira comps but it dropped to 22k recently

[graceful wraith]

Nah, gotta pull power from wuling city

[versed ermine]

sorry i got the name mixed, i meant marker stone

for some reason i still think of the marker stone as the "new area" lol

[surreal lantern]

everyone i know first said only insane ppl dragging sewage to test area

they all end up insane in the end

[tawny haven]

hmm, anyone got similar issues now where sometimes one crucible just produces too much sewage?

[versed ermine]

thats how meh the whole test area is

[tawny haven]

after update, wakes up, sees sewage at 50 and battery at 1k

[graceful wraith]

Are u making 15/m xircon with 4 expanded crucibles?

[foggy pasture]

no, how many refineries do you have connected to that crucible

[graceful wraith]

Guys how do I make 18/m hxira

[foggy pasture]

cmon nothing insane is about it, you get a whole 1 battery per minute!!!

[unborn pendant]

i think you're using the same triple-recipe i am in the extended crucible - if you don't balance things carefully or rmake it impossible to clog on effluent, your sewage will clog in the crucible and brick it permanently, forcing delete + replace

[uneven aspen]

Nope after 1 night my xircon crucibles were the same amounts when i checked on them

[tall tangle]

have anyone tried to feed inert xircon to purification facility? highly doubtful, but what if secret recipe...

[marble marsh]

Storage shenanigans

[foggy pasture]

This is like looking at a doomsday prepper

[marble marsh]

12k extra storage for hetonite parts heavy xarnite and batteries each

And I have more space to put stuff lol

[storm garnet]

max purity is at region lvl 11, so if you are not at that lvl, idk the exact numbers

[sonic summit]

if you make 14 sc and 30 heto per min what item should i meta transfer and what should i manual transfer

[storm garnet]

meta dense ori

always dense ori

[warm maple]

im missing a bit of amethyst and 20 ferrium im lvl 11

[storm garnet]

check the maps again for places you haven't explored yet, or rigs that are not powered properly

good thing is the map shows all ore nodes

[warm maple]

AH i get it

bro i skipped the entire crane area

[storm garnet]

and if you click on them, you can see their status

[warm maple]

as in skipping rigs and shit

[sonic summit]

but then i dont have enough ferium in valley 4

[dry comet]

what do i do with the ecess acid some recipes produce?

[marble marsh]

Squeezed this line in for extra cash

[storm garnet]

didn't you say you would also do manual transfers

it's the same with ori anyways

[foggy pasture]

Most people just dump whatever byproduct comes out of the purification machines because its annoying to work with

[storm garnet]

also, fuck v4

[dry comet]

how do i dump it? bbecause its cloggin my machines

[storm garnet]

fluid supply unit

back to the acid pool

[foggy pasture]

pipe it to a fluid supply unit into a river or acid pool

[storm garnet]

it has to be an acid pool

[static isle]

this should give me 1.5 sc/min extra right?

[storm garnet]

(it does, right?)

[foggy pasture]

i mean if he ends up purifiing inert effluent he gotta dump it to a river

[dry comet]

whtas a fluid supply unit??

[storm garnet]

a building

[sonic summit]

its 0,75 xircon need 2 effluent

[storm garnet]

reverse from a pump

[static isle]

oh yeah I divide it wrong
how are ppl getting 1.5
are they using the leftover xira line too

[dry comet]

dont have it, where do i get it

[foggy pasture]

its that machine that dumps liquids back to a source, you used it in the main story

[unborn pendant]

tech tree?

[sonic summit]

you wanna see mine ?

[dry comet]

wait nvm, ig imblind

[static isle]

ye
just for the ratio idea

[surreal lantern]

... it's a forced tutorial from main story..

[unborn pendant]

nah they put it in a weird spot, i forgot it exists too

[static isle]

(no I'm not dragging the xircon back from test site it's cursed)

[solid quiver]

You shouldn't assume gacha players to know basics

[foggy pasture]

I mean the misc. section is a fair place to put it

[sonic summit]

tbh i make 14~15/min battery from test area effluent

[static isle]

gacha players don't read

[tawny haven]

I have 30, but up to 60 xircon/min

[solid quiver]

6/min xircon effluent is gonna usable somehow

[storm garnet]

i would be upset about this if i could read it

[tawny haven]

I run 4 expanded, 2 refiner connected to the first 2

[static isle]

technically 60/m originium require only 15/m xira right?

or is it 30

[tawny haven]

yeah for the 3rd and 4th I am running triple

[static isle]

for SC

[solid quiver]

1.2/min bats

[foggy pasture]

You should be fine if you're pumping out your effluents correctly

[solid quiver]

for xira comps yes

[autumn maple]

If you see sewage produced faster than you wanted for (and cause the clog and factory fail), do split-water treatment for fail safe

[static isle]

I'm talking SCW tho

[solid quiver]

yeah that

[static isle]

normally 2 lines of xira requires 8 lines of origin

[solid quiver]

yeah that

[sonic summit]

good luck replicating this

[tawny haven]

it is always one, I am going to see how the balance goes, so far a nightmare after the update, preupdate? no issues

[foggy pasture]

what the fuck is this

[unborn pendant]

https://klipy.com/gifs/eyes-9YZ--k01KRPG4ZEWYW0S2ZWHBJQ6G7FG

[solid quiver]

i hope this abysmal not in core aic

[tawny haven]

the absolute cluster fuck i made

[autumn maple]

well, if you feel bug. then just "let's see & wait" situation. Since i also got the same case that sewage produced faster than it should

[sonic summit]

from hxira maker that feed inert to purifier with the output combined with test site effluent feed into 2,5~2,75 sc batteries

[heavy mango]

POV:
A new endfield patch dropped

[solid quiver]

fr

[foggy pasture]

Yeah I'm doing the same and I'm shocked you can somehow make it more spaghetti looking than mine

[sonic summit]

i move all 7 xiranite into tang tang sub aic

[autumn maple]

is earthquake actual lore canon every month ? lmao

[foggy pasture]

footprint maxing prevents this babyyyyy

[sonic summit]

ah i do 1 hxira with free efluent from 12/ min xircon maker

[keen river]

missing aftermath: tangtang's inventory completely filled with random shit

pow: you logged out

[muted kite]

Sadly only works with sewage

[dry comet]

Theres an upgrade that allows crucibles to do 2 recipes at the same time, can tehy be of the same object?

[keen river]

no

[foggy pasture]

No, the expanded crucible allows you to perform 3 different recipes at once, but not multiple of the same recipe

[storm garnet]

idk man these lines are kinda close...

it shows 75 on yield sometimes

[vital fractal]

I dont get it, are we supposed to build here?

[muted kite]

Biggest downside to expanded crucible to me

[autumn maple]

its not recommended to do anything in this area, at least for now

only for hardcorer

we dont need it atm

[dusky geyser]

other than 1 side quest currently

[storm garnet]

you can make 2 recipes at once on the normal reactor crucible too btw

[vital fractal]

biggest downside imo is that u can only let 1 non fluid out....cant make like heteronite + battery or sth idk why

[storm garnet]

just less space for materials

[autumn maple]

oh yeah, draining 8000 sewage, and thats all

[foggy pasture]

I mean I appreciate it, gets rid of at minimum 2 crucibles in most recipes

[winged oriole]

TIL you can only metatransfer one item at a time

[vital fractal]

what do u even use it for despite of batteries + efluent?

[storm garnet]

meta-ing a bit of ferrium and then use the rest for dense ori would be interesting

[foggy pasture]

Hetonite

[digital mirage]

ugh i dont wanna re-adjust my aic for the extra skyforges and to remove my event build things.

[muted kite]

Yeah just wish it's operations were more flexible or up to the player also like more in/out pipes or something

[vital fractal]

but cant u just use the normal one, whats the difference

[storm garnet]

8 crucibles instead of 9

so less space

if you have the space, you might as well use 9 though

[wary vine]

Sorry i feel stupid am i actually supposed to carry sewage all the way from the main map or whatever to the Test area?

[vital fractal]

ye I see 😛 well its a small bonus...

[storm garnet]

or 4 instead of 5 if only making 15/min heto btw

[uneven aspen]

I think this works

[storm garnet]

you need to fill 1 bottle with sewage, go there, empty it, go back, repeat

[muted kite]

If you want to roleplay/bored sure but it doesn't feel worth right now

[vital fractal]

I´m just using 3 lmao, focus on money with jincao tea and just do liquid heavy + heteronite parts on side slowly

[river wadi]

If you need to save 300 power then you can

[keen river]

its not too hard, but the effort isnt worth it really

[foggy pasture]

Its pretty handy and saves power most often

[sonic summit]

btw idk what kind of magic this water pipe is but i cant complain

[wary vine]

So it can be ignored basically?

[muted kite]

So far I've thrown down a stash and threw in some bottles filled with sewage and the output was very disappointing. Unless they're planning to give us sewage problems

[uneven aspen]

pipes are 80m and it's really simialr to connecting relay towers from the hub to the quarry or science park to lodespring.

[storm garnet]

if you use more than 6.6k energy, you shouldn't

[keen river]

pipes are 200 meters tho

[uneven aspen]

you mean conduits?

[keen river]

i connected and even got the processed effluent back

but it really gives a pittance

[autumn maple]

the magic shown when you use 3D pov

[vital fractal]

damn that looks clean

[storm garnet]

the main thing with the test area is the free sewage elimination, the extra effluent is just a bonus

you can ignore the effluent if you want

[hallow monolith]

if you're crazy enough can you pipe all your sweage from all 3 outposts

[wary vine]

Mhhh but won't I use like... lots of energy to carry sewage there anyways?

[muted kite]

Yeah pipes are higher than the depots

[keen river]

it realistically saves you like 400 energy max

[storm garnet]

no? conduits don't use energy

[uneven aspen]

this pipe can only hold 5 units of liquids and it's 5 tiles long. max pipelength can hold 80 so it's 80tiles/m long

[sonic summit]

[undone current]

3-4 manifold on wuling + 2 manifold on tes area

[wary vine]

Ohhh! I thought they did good to know

[storm garnet]

they are just fancy pipes

no energy

[keen river]

i mean yeah,, but why would you use pipes to connect to the test area

[vital fractal]

this is mine 😄

[keen river]

when you can use conduits for same thing

[muted kite]

Magical bridges

[uneven aspen]

protocol capacity

[storm garnet]

the only reason the devs added the manifold to 1.2 is cause of the test area

[keen river]

i have no idea what you have to do to exhaust it tbh

[storm garnet]

though it was also good for getting acid to the main aic

[undone current]

0/15 tower

23 Zipline too

[uneven aspen]

was at 347 when i started piping to test area

[sonic summit]

i am in "almost maxed protocol capacity" trenchess

[uneven aspen]

though its 341 now cause it was from deleting extra fluid pumps since event gourds used quite a bit of them

[foggy pasture]

very liberal use of depot unloaders lol

[keen river]

each tower is 2, so thats like +30..

still 50 left

[uneven aspen]

essence+farm+zipline network does that

[foggy pasture]

have you been bestowed the knowledge of battery powered turrets

[keen river]

but yeah, i guess if you put towers on the alluvium that would matter

[undone current]

go use the environment center route

[uneven aspen]

and conduit inlets+fluid pumps for water

[keen badge]

before v after
love it when a cleanup turns out well on the first try (^.^)
(I think? I hope the factory doesn't explode on me again overnight because the sewage disapoofed 🤣)

[undone current]

aint Zipline eat 3 protocol cap each

[keen river]

where are you even ziplining tho

[undone current]

[keen river]

i have ziplines for all relevant places already

[foggy pasture]

your factory exploding after you do a big cleanup always sucks

[keen river]

well eeither way

if you are at the protocol limit then yeah, dont bother

[uneven aspen]

how to even measure how much xir effu you gain from recycling all the sewage

[muted kite]

Can't wait for the magic behind water treatment to be revealed and it suddenly goes to the test area water treatment.

[uneven aspen]

piping is pretty fast either way

just conduit huge changes in altitude

pipe is jsut hold ALT while moving with the mouse

make straight line pipes

xir effu back to main aic took like 10 minutes

[undone current]

gases

[storm garnet]

can't really get it from there, you just have to get the 30:1 ratio and math your real sewage generation going there from the aic

[keen river]

just count how much sewage are you using and thats about it

[sonic summit]

absolute "almost max protocol" trenches

[cosmic lava]

for your own sanity please use conduits

[muted kite]

All they need to do to fix our problems is just change a infinite acid pool to an infinite sewage pool

[sonic summit]

i cant, my protocol already limited in wuling

[storm garnet]

reminder that you need at least 2 pipes of sewage going to the test area if you don't use a manifold

[undone current]

u cant spaare 12-16 proto cap?

[storm garnet]

optimal would be 3, but no need to future proof when we don't know shit

[muted kite]

Rip this user

[sonic summit]

only 10 left .... already use 8 for this conduits

[dusky geyser]

splitter and bridge count into the 512 map limit too

[undone current]

use this rouote

[storm garnet]

belt splitters yes, pipes not

pipes have their own limit, splitters included

[sonic summit]

it cost 10 protocol last time i count

[storm garnet]

1152 is total limit though, normal belts included, so don't put too many anyways

[undone current]

nah isnt for sure

[green sleet]

Im morbidly curious what your map looks like to be that hard off for protocol space lol

[undone current]

i think i can down it to 6 if i want to manual piping there but 1152

[foggy pasture]

How many pipe manifolds does it take? 4?

[keen river]

you should be able to reach the test area with only 3 hops no?

at least as far as i can tell

my setup uses 4 hops

[cosmic lava]

not that hard to max it if you have ziplines, turrets, and the eco-farm all set up

[dusky geyser]

at least 4 i think

[undone current]

yeah possible with 3 hops

[storm garnet]

hops in the test area itself don't matter

[keen river]

yeah

[storm garnet]

you could even say you get half for free since you hop inside it

[foggy pasture]

My setup uses 3 hops, shame 2 hops isn't possible

[undone current]

3hops

[sonic summit]

unless you pipe all way in here its still cost 8

[undone current]

yes

[storm garnet]

nah, just 1 more going there

[undone current]

[storm garnet]

also, delete farm

[undone current]

i have 3 pair, acid sewage n effluent

[sonic summit]

how about delete your account ? will NEVER delete farm

[storm garnet]

the left one is for optimizing water for the miners lol

[keen river]

if you are dragging two pipes, why arent you using double conduit anyway

does it cost twice as much?

[undone current]

btw extruem, on this side possible with manual piping?

[undone current]

dats already manifold, i drag 3 type fluid

[storm garnet]

going inside, 3 pipes is the max

no conduits i mean

[undone current]

[storm garnet]

the stairs here are diabolical

[undone current]

[storm garnet]

and the entrance to the courtyard is also diabolical

[uneven aspen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1tdnnhe/how_to_use_the_purification_node/

[keen river]

😔

absolutely unplayable

[storm garnet]

that place counts you as if you are putting things on the cave below, and checks the height like that

[uneven aspen]

hmm i thought reddit posts embededs the videos before

[storm garnet]

but it's possible to put things there, i have it

[static isle]

theoretically that sewage line in should be 7.5/min (quarter of a line) but 15/min (half a line) should be fine right?
it'll just take until it clogs?
(I split that line from one cuprium, it has a water treatment)

[sonic summit]

btw how to transfer conduits? teleport?

[storm garnet]

i think they need to be youtube links on the reddit post

[spring elm]

Trolled by 2 red x's

[main lily]

WHat can I do with the xiolent fluent from the new area?

[undone current]

yes, zipline tech

[keen river]

unfortunate, hoped i could build a cleaner power line, but alas

no luck

[sonic summit]

meh too lazy to do that

[undone current]

but its efficient

[storm garnet]

just use a pylon as an intermediate, as long as the rest are relays, it counts the same way as a relay

[keen river]

already have tiny pylons on the normal side

but hoped i could just run over the hill, but it wont look better anyway

oh well

[winged oriole]

Goood enough for now

[spice tartan]

Current Maximum Wuling RDM ?

[muted kite]

We're hoping drops down a mini-Pac just for the test area

[sonic summit]

where i can get calculation sheet

[storm garnet]

you need to make it yourself sadly

devs are lacking in qol smh

[sonic summit]

there no formated one?

[keen river]

well, got myself two extra hilltop ziplines thanks to wonder of shared ziplines

[storm garnet]

sheets are unique to each person, if you share one, god sends a lightning to you

[dusky geyser]

there is a way to teleport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJh24l4H8Q , the concept apply to conduit line also

[unborn pendant]

where are thsoe two exactly? 👀

[winged oriole]

Making the sheet is the fun part

[storm garnet]

i don't make sheets, i just use a calculator and my head

and get it wrong, but i get it somewhere

[cedar bay]

Wulling doesn't give you a lot of space does it to max out your factories. Valley 4 you can do most of your maxed out factory in just the starting zone.

[keen river]

yeah

wuling has a lot larger chains and more resources overall

[unborn pendant]

i will trade you 1 cursed water zipline for sharing those w/ me 👀

[keen river]

😄

that one is cursed for sure

[foggy pasture]

Its time to drag sewage from Markerstone to the Test Site.

[keen river]

are you on eu server?

[unborn pendant]

no 🥺

[dusky geyser]

how does the zipline location looks like?

[keen river]

rip 🙁

[keen river]

that looks cool

[unborn pendant]

u can go from monitoring center to test area using it :)

[cedar bay]

Yeah I kinda feel if the next update has even more resources to gather. They'll have to give us a new factory area as well. That or everyone will have to make near perfect factories in terms of space to resource output.

[dusky geyser]

u dont need that zipline to go inbetween lol is short enough to travel across

[main lily]

Can I do anything with this?

[unborn pendant]

yes but have you considered: parkour ziplines are neat? :)

[cedar bay]

From what I understand, most people are saving that new zone is pretty redundant rn.

[dusky geyser]

yeah, but i also value how beneficent that zipline can serve, we have limited zipline after all

[foggy pasture]

As of currently, you get to make an whole extra 1 battery per minute. Though its 100% likely they're going to do more in the future with it is it wouldn't hurt to start now

[viscid zodiac]

i just unlocked ferrium mining what should i do now?

[main lily]

But how do I transport it to my base?

[dusky geyser]

btw u still want that 2 mountain zipline? i can share it to you

[winged oriole]

Build the Great Wuling Pipeline

[unborn pendant]

yes please, I'm on NA server tho

[dusky geyser]

ah... i thought u are in asia rip

[static isle]

someone eli5 what is pipe prio?

[unborn pendant]

np

[keen river]

if you are in NA i can share you the tower

[dusky geyser]

but hey, u can always parkour it yourself up there

[keen river]

its NA/EU one server and asia second and china third

[foggy pasture]

Using condensers and splitters, you can prioritize to feed a liquid into one machine over another.

This allows you to do things such as using purified liquids or create overflow prevention systems

[unborn pendant]

sure please, my ign is Haste, code 6069621879

[static isle]

okay, eli10 then

[muted kite]

The 30 sewage to 1 xircon eff feels like a joke sometimes, I'm suspecting sewage was a problem when they were developing test area

[keen river]

you friend list is full

but request sent

[unborn pendant]

time to sacrifice one of the day 1 randos >:)

[tired gate]

moving fluids from marker stone to test area is a pain

[keen river]

go through valley, its not too bad

[tired gate]

without more ferrium, i don't think we can use it anyways

[unborn pendant]

whats your ign? i ahve a bunch of requests atm bc i was lazy and didnt decline/accept a lot

[keen river]

should be Amelek

[foggy pasture]

For a condenser, the side inputs a prioritized over the bottom/straight input. If you use a splitter you can redirect flow to increase the percentage of liquid that goes through the condenser but still have the utility of diverting excess fluid somewhere else.

This can create backflow systems where you don't have to drain out liquids from a Purifier. Or a system where you have unbalanced liquid ratios you can de-clog systems by diverting excess sewage into sewage treatment

[unborn pendant]

just sent a friend request of my own bc i didnt see yours 😅

[static isle]

ah so I've been doing it without knowing then
for example like this
the left sewage line (the feedback) is prioritized over the bottom (the line split from treatment) yes?

[keen river]

the north one is bit precautious, but seemed like best place to eventually continue

[foggy pasture]

yeah basically, though never seen it done for sewage

One more thing I forgot to mention is that it can allow multiple liquids to go through the same port (though its a bit unstable for offline and thus not reccomended)

[static isle]

ye I do that for 240/m heto

[keen river]

huh

[foggy pasture]

Yeah it works perfectly fine for hetonite

[static isle]

mine

but I'm doing 120/m rn bc I do yazhen A/C

[unborn pendant]

that's the zipline I jsut sent you?

[keen river]

yeah, clicking the thing in the chat gui

weird

[unborn pendant]

i can show you how to get there lol, its pretty easy parkour

[keen river]

yeah i think i can see the way

i will try to parkour there

looks like fun spot

have my mountaintops worked?

[unborn pendant]

trying one out rn

[undone current]

not gonna rec it for potato device

a single lagspike will kill it

[storm garnet]

i think this happens if you have a building nearby

[foggy pasture]

Amazing.

[storm garnet]

or you have 10 shared buildings in the zone, i think that's the max

delete some and try again

[keen river]

HMM

might be the case, lets see

[unborn pendant]

they all work, thanks! lmk if you want me to show you the way to that water one

[keen river]

hmm, i will look into it tomorrow

there seem to be the invisible wall on the easy route

about here?

so i guess you went from wuling side?

[unborn pendant]

de-clog systems by diverting excess sewage into sewage treatment
whoa hollup - can you share a simple example of this please? right now I'm sacrificing like 1/16th of my xircon effluent in a way that prevents clogging down the line if it gets clogged... is there a better way?

[unborn pendant]

yeah its basically that route

really weird though because invisible wall above log, but you can do a curve jump with a tall character like pog and avoid drowning

[keen river]

ah

so its not all the way

interesting

[foggy pasture]

I don't have an example of this cause I haven't gotten it to work but other people have. But Its related to spamming a bunch of splitters

[keen river]

also someone shared me absolutely wicked ziplines

but they are so far no way to access them

[unborn pendant]

yeah that straight line you draw goes through the invisible wall above that fallen log. the goal is to jump around that, temporarily be in danger of drowning, and "swim" fast enough to get to the right side of an udnerwater log, which is shallow enoguh to not die

[wary vine]

This is the general idea for Hetonite right?
Ignore how messy the upper part is 😭

[keen river]

pretty much, tho you can daisy chain the crucibles

[wary vine]

What does that mean?

[keen river]

instead of connecting each crucibe separarely

just drag the pipe through it

[unborn pendant]

you can pipe the hetonite from one into the next, treating it as another pipe rather than emrging them all as you have done

[keen river]

^

[wary vine]

Ohhhh I somehow thought about it for the Acid but not for hethonite xD

[static isle]

pass through

this is my setup for 240/m

[wary vine]

So like this right? c:

[unborn pendant]

yeah better, but Minako's... so elegant 😭

i need to redo my entire marker stone outpost

[keen river]

my setup is like this

[wary vine]

True that is really well planned 😭 But it's nice to know endfield allows for some messy factories as well like mine xD
What is the reason for producing so much hetonite though? Do you get to sell it for credits now or...?

[exotic aurora]

oh that's smart. i forgot you could just chain the outputs and inputs for reactors

[short anchor]

wymmmm it says 340/350 😩

[undone current]

messy setup kek

[keen river]

its the other limit

[river wadi]

512 limit includes the ones in aic

[short anchor]

but its in new zone

[keen river]

512 limit just counts all buildings and belt logistics stuff

[short anchor]

i havent placed anything in the new zone 😩

[keen river]

this part counts as wuling city

the whole passage does

[short anchor]

bruhhh

[keen river]

test area starts in the middle of the wooden bridge

where the text appears

[storm garnet]

if you get a building in your hand as if trying to place it, you can see the line delimiting the zones

[short anchor]

they dont let us build enough 🥴

[short anchor]

OOOH

i see thank god

[keen river]

around here

you can check with map where you are

it opens to your current map

and other one is shaded

[unborn pendant]

you can also see the faint blue zone boundary when attempting to place stuff

[keen river]

ooh , i never noticed

interesting

[short anchor]

ye thank u so much... i was so confused hahaha

[keen river]

it even has a dedicated error

[short anchor]

🤣 yea cant place on the line haha

so weird that its not new zone haha

[junior breach]

all that work for 1/8s💀

[keen river]

btw

😔

the most unsatisfying part

[unborn pendant]

?

[keen river]

you can see wuling city and monitoring center from test area

but other direction is obscured by fog

[unborn pendant]

oh yeah its kinda weird. weather/lighting changes really abruptly too when you use that zipline on the water too 🤔

[keen river]

yeah

each zone has its weather and time of day so if you transition outside of cave it happens like this

weather is good in test area and its cloudy in the wuling

[keen badge]

one-way fog to maintain secrecy
smart
🤣

[keen river]

you can see the wuling mountains pretty well from that side

[exotic aurora]

what are you guys using the bonus Xicon Effluent on? The ones we get from Purification units

[keen river]

and even see the route to next map

[storm garnet]

sc

0.125/min

[exotic aurora]

so a 1/8th line of SC batteries?

[storm garnet]

lol no

sc lines are 6/min

add a 4 before that 8

[exotic aurora]

oh... a 1/48th line lol

[keen river]

they forgot to put trees on those hills since now we can see them

[keen badge]

I wonder if we'll be doing something with that water treatment plant
because the amount of sewage you can dump in it vs the effluent it gives back is... 🥴
the testing area still has a sealed southeast corner, maybe... maybe? 😅

[unborn pendant]

unplayable

[tacit quarry]

16.25 Hetonite
5.5 Yazhen [A]
BP is done
next is hard part Xircon and heavy xiranite

[storm garnet]

water treatment plant is not about the effluent, but about dumping sewage

the effluent is just a small bonus for those who care

[keen river]

our own waste processing plant is pretty good enough tho

its 50 energy each but eh

[storm garnet]

that's the point, the energy

[tribal crescent]

you can save up to 300 energy

[keen river]

my base is currently at like 6500 power even with test area connected

[storm garnet]

350 if you count heto

[tribal crescent]

oh right

[keen river]

i probably could start to burn 2 sc batteries

and that would be like 6800 power?

so eeh

[storm garnet]

6.6k

[keen river]

i guess it might be more relevant later

[storm garnet]

you are too close

[keen river]

when we get more factories / more copium

[foggy pasture]

Guys, piping sewage from Marker Stone was not worth the 1 effluent per minute you get

[undone current]

make heto on ur main aic

[foggy pasture]

that requires me piping acid to the main AIC

[storm garnet]

there is acid on test area

[keen river]

i dragged both main aic and marker stone 😅

[storm garnet]

much closer than marker

[keen river]

and just connected them near the test area entrance

[undone current]

yes do it, piping acid from test area

[tribal crescent]

wrong

[spiral thorn]

I just refine the cuprium on main aic then let the depot transfer them to marker stone

[foggy pasture]

I think I'll just keep Hetonite in Test Site, especially since I already did the work of piping out Sewage

[tribal crescent]

one should bottle acid instead

[storm garnet]

kill that witch

[undone current]

bottling acid take too much power

[tribal crescent]

does the manifold divide the input/output equally

or does it keep track of each pipe it is connected to

[spiral thorn]

I did that but only for the liquid heavy xira

[storm garnet]

conduits are tanks, they don't care how it gets in

it gets out like a splitter i think

[tribal crescent]

hm

[storm garnet]

equally in turns

[keen river]

if you connect two it works like a big splitter handling 4 fluid / s

[tribal crescent]

can i connect single with double conduit

[keen river]

you can

[storm garnet]

if at more than zero, it should be both at the same time

wait, you can?

never tried, i assumed you can't lol

[keen river]

yeah

you can

it just says that the flow is limited to 2/s

[storm garnet]

might do that for the last conduit of effluent inside the aic

[tribal crescent]

last base should be the exclusion zone ig

[storm garnet]

ye

[tribal crescent]

a shame we didn't get to have 3 sub bsaes

wait

we will

surely

new outpost too

[spiral thorn]

For the Forges of the sky, should it be 10 xira, 2 heavy for ratio?

[tribal crescent]

sure

you may also be some kind of pervert to do 9+3

[spiral thorn]

I made 9/3 for noww because too much xira in stock

[tribal crescent]

called it

[spiral thorn]

[keen river]

you can also use two large conduits as big tank that holds 1k fluid and has two inputs and two outputs

but you dont really need that for anything

[spiral thorn]

I just made a 2nd one at first, but then the effluent clogged

[tribal crescent]

how does it clog

[tribal crescent]

the manifold can take 1k?

[spiral thorn]

inlet + outlet for 500 each

[tribal crescent]

eh

might as well just use tank

[tall tangle]

time to refill stockpiles

[tribal crescent]

making hetonite cmop

[keen river]

yeah, its mostly about the ability to take/output double the mount

but its not really super useful

[tribal crescent]

is kinda useless

[south haven]

what we use the extra cuprium for?

[keen river]

in theory you could store some excess in tank and then burn it when metatransfer items arrive

but eeh

too much effort

[upbeat turtle]

more heto or more syringe

[spiral thorn]

cuprium is the bottleneck on hetonite, so there can't be extra right ?

[tribal crescent]

well there's also ferrium

[storm garnet]

i do this for liquid cuprium, so it gets merged and balanced before going to the purifiers

[south haven]

ok i make more heto

[tall tangle]

it's so stupid...

[tribal crescent]

i'm more concerned about what you want ;to do with it

[tall tangle]

i will make 82k heto comp and die in peace

[tribal crescent]

bro is never using those up in his entire life 🥀

[tall tangle]

atleast those wont go poof like jades

[undone current]

rugpull incident

[foggy pasture]

What are some ways for me to compact this

[uneven aspen]

figured out the issue 😔
I thought 1500 originum is the same as 1500 dense originium powder

for the metatransfer

turns out dense ori is 2x more ori

[tacit quarry]

my final calculation
summary below

[radiant bluff]

magnificent

[torn bison]

as long it works loool

[storm garnet]

sometimes i go to any zone not called wuling city and place a lot of shit out of spite for the building limit

[shut hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/プリキュア-precure-magical-girls-pretty-cure-idol-precure-gif-18040878627496782963

Wuling pipes fr

[silk merlin]

I connected Core AIC Area to Water Treatment Center at Test Area
it turn out only 1:30 efficiency
is it worth it?

[foggy pasture]

You get to make an extra battery or two every minute, not really no but it'll probably be used in later patches

[tall tangle]

top speed (it's poop)

[torn bison]

haven't got too far on the quest for this area, is the water treatment built-in there?

[left bear]

does anyone know how much flow per minute it is for sewage and xircon? I connected several conduits to the dam and was wondering if this is stable

[unborn pendant]

it has a special area with 3 special water treatment units that can treat sewage at whatever rate you can pipe it in to them, and you get a tiny bit if xircon effluent in return

you have to pipe the sewage in from another zone, as there is no outpost there

[tall tangle]

~ 0.067 per sec xircon (on image. not typo)

[indigo obsidian]

does any of u have the zipline on the rooftop of this? in test area
i already know it's possible

it's top left island

[left bear]

so roughly 4 per minute..

should i cut one of the xiranite from the forge then to balance?

[unborn pendant]

i tried to find a way to get there... couldn't... best i've got for you is a cursed zipline on the water from monitoring center to test area

[tall tangle]

about right. reminder. normal line is 30/min

[indigo obsidian]

Can u show it? here or in dms if u prefer

[left bear]

ah come to think of it i can add 2 more corpium lines

[indigo obsidian]

i have this atm but one on the roof would fix

[indigo obsidian]

sorry doesn't help the case xD

[silk merlin]

it's not worth it. anyways if you also hoarder don't use the double on the Xircon output.

[torn bison]

thanks! maybe ill use that treatment plant if there's a much more closer outpost on the area

[hallow monolith]

when it's just shy of 110M so you have to cope with an extra zip

[tall tangle]

why not walk 10 steps?

[hallow monolith]

i don't trust myself to get past this ledge without accidentally jumping

especially when i do these on phone sometimes

[uneven aspen]

why not just add another zipline inbetween

wait nvm 😔

my reading comprehension is too slow

[hallow monolith]

cause i wanna cross the gorge in 1 go cause its coooool

going down iand then ups cringe

[thorny galleon]

scream
Just started the sidequest for the Test Area, and I immediately encounter new ore
I just mathed and revamped my factory goddamnit

[unborn pendant]

what's the new ore? i dont think i've done any side quests...

[thorny galleon]

Just new nodes*, not new ore

[unborn pendant]

well thats what i mean

is there more than just the ori and cuprium?

[indigo obsidian]

that side i'm fully happy for now

[thorny galleon]

Ah, a bit more cuprium, and this is right at the entrance.
I'll go finish out this questline and think if I want to revamp my factory .-.

[storm garnet]

if you have 240 cuprium and 540 originium, you are fine

[thorny galleon]

180 cuprium and 480 originium
I should also wait for my regional development to up.. I guess I can do that then revamp my stuff again

[little remnant]

Quick question, what goods can you trade when you have max level outposts in Wuling?

[storm garnet]

max lvl is 3 atm

[storm garnet]

for both outposts

sc batteries, cuprium and heto parts, and heavy xira are the most notable ones

and the foods

[tall tangle]

ah, i thought about elastic for some reason

[storm garnet]

don't trade cuprium parts though, just make food

or heto

[little remnant]

I have very inefficient layout, I just trade cuprium parts, heavy xiranite and LC wuling battery

[storm garnet]

when lvling up you are limited on what to sell, so that's ok anyways

[little remnant]

I just like Valley IV factory more

[storm garnet]

well, v4 is like a tutorial compared to wuling

[torn bison]

what i did is i searched for xiranite bp and rack that up, i trade those if i maxed the capacity of my depot

[tacit quarry]

did some more calculation and turn out it's not worth producing more than 2 heavy xiranite (12/m)

[torn bison]

but making sure i still have enough xiranites for batteries

[little remnant]

I needed the armor made from cuprium and hetonite parts so I made production line for those

[nimble cairn]

Do we have enough Origi to build a third SC Battery Factory in Wuling now?

[vapid dock]

SC battery needs 240/min, the new area only added 80/min

[little remnant]

and it makes overdose of heavy xiranite and cuprium part so i just sell them

[orchid pilot]

Thanks!!
Just checking, this still requires 2 reactors (150 power instead of 100), to separate the sewage generation from sewage feed, right? because if all-in-one reactor with inert recycle, I'm seeing that xirasewage would need to be fed at 22/min and 11/min, and I don't know if we can do this amount of fluid split

input from anyone else running the bonus 2.75/min SC welcome

[nimble cairn]

Dam thats not even enough for a LC battery factory, such a bummer...

[orchid pilot]

This is for non inert recycling, I made this mistake at first and kept wondering why my sewage and xira were not matched

[spring elm]

I actually capped wuling protocol capacity and had to delete some conduits and zips I never needed, went from 350 -> 302.

[glad needle]

telepathic flow

[rain schooner]

is hetonite production still 22 a min?

[river wadi]

you can now have 30 per min

[rain schooner]

ah but i gotta stop my other stuff

ill keep it at 22

[jolly shore]

oh I like this one, dont suppose you have a BP? I've been wanting to make a double heto

[tacit quarry]

new profit ratio

less harder belt ratio, but also slightly less profit

[uneven aspen]

surprisely a relay tower underneath powers this zipline

[unborn pendant]

yes, you've learnt a forbidden explroation technique ;)

[shut hearth]

What is the profit per ferrium used of hetonite vs wuling battery?

[shut hearth]

Omg its a tetris player

[tacit quarry]

not sure about exact number, but SC battery bring more profit than Hetonite

this one focus one SC battery

this one focus on hetonite

[shut hearth]

Inchresting

[tacit quarry]

there are also matter of DOP limitation

[uneven aspen]

o/ did not expect someone from there.

[trail mirage]

4 xircon line needs 1 sewage/s right

[tacit quarry]

in this patch we dont have enough Ferrium and DOP
ferrium is use to produce
-Xircon
-Hetonite
so we make SC battery as much as DOP can provide, and the rest of Ferrium go to hetonite

[trail mirage]

tbh i think im gonna cap out on sc bat this update

[tacit quarry]

1 xircon line need 1 extermal sewage

[shut hearth]

Oh wait FOUR

[tacit quarry]

they require 2 actually but 1 is self cycle

[trail mirage]

this is 4 right?

[uneven aspen]

😔 production a bit too chaotic for 30 min aic report to be accurate or not, need ot wait for 2 hour one

[shut hearth]

Looks like 60/min, so 2 lines

[trail mirage]

[shut hearth]

I mean u are running it correctly still

Technically providing them enough sewage too (assuming that outlet is 1/s like u said)

[tacit quarry]

in this case 2 line of sewage

[spring elm]

pylons and towers have a top radius grid

[spring elm]

I love the music

[native thistle]

I'm trying to see if it's possible to make a little extra heavy xiranite using the effluent from the Test Area. I've got 7 lines of waste water going into it currently. But I think if I solve for a fractional amount of a xiranite line in a reactor to make some more effluent (so it equals 1 effluent line) I could make more heavy xiranite than just taking the effluent I get now. Thing is, to do so I need to use some of the waste water as well to make the additional effluent, which reduces the recycled amount at the Test Area. Anyone able to weigh in if this math looks right? If I really have to divide by 77 that's totally impractical lol. Just wondering if my calculation was right

[keen badge]

it's an absolute mess but at least the forges are deployed
let's get printing! ✊😤

( yeah, very low HX drain, the hetonite line still needs work I know 😅 )
(( potentially a complete overhaul of all Wuling bases ))

[native thistle]

oh, the 4th line is wrong because W is the amount used at the AIC. R is 0.2 + the remainder (scaled by a factor)

[trail mirage]

i need more origium

[glad needle]

they really makes us think in gacha game

i hate thinking

https://tenor.com/view/tom-lizard-disney-hoppers-tom-lizard-fortnite-gif-231174132761414020

[shadow fern]

Is there a source of sewage on the map?
I think I need extra to make more Xircon effluent

[glad needle]

no

[keen badge]

none that are infinite
there are 2 notable pools in the new testing area (~4000) but that's about it
your sewage comes from cuprium refining

[uneven aspen]

finished zipline network to raregrowths+delivery nodes. Also have one from teleport node to essence area.

[ruby sorrel]

huh maybe I should split the first zip from depot like that too

[uneven aspen]

are rare friend shared zipline that was very helpful

did not think i can plant a zipline on top of here

[ruby sorrel]

nah you can walk up there normally

[glad needle]

i need to pay someone to do these shits

[ruby sorrel]

there's an aurelyne there lol

[uneven aspen]

yeah but I never knew you could but i saw the path afterwards

[native thistle]

You can do 1 line per cuprium line (up to 8) and 1 more if you're turning ALL of your cuprium into hetonite (producing some hetonite will give you a fractional sewage line)

[uneven aspen]

ziplines broke my dige though 💀 im losing 1-2% power each time

[trail mirage]

save power

[shadow fern]

Ah, yes. Thanks for reminding me about that source
I think our plans are the same. Just need to run sewage output from the outpost to main to feed the new Effluent line
Going to check the math on that soon

[jolly shore]

made some slight changes to an existing double heto and I'm pretty happy with it, I guess it all depends on whether the mustard plow stays stable

I feel like I'm a mcdonalds employee

[native thistle]

Yeah I'm re-crunching the numbers. It's definitely not a necessary thing to optimize for but sometimes you gotta play these games to your own rhythm. You know?

[shell hinge]

This is what I got, where are you getting so much extra xiranite?

[plush totem]

aaaa help

[keen river]

delete last segment of old pipe

it buggy when you build like this

[plush totem]

Deleted the whole pipe and tried again

same thing

[cedar bolt]

That conduit outlet you supposed to use conduit inlet

[hidden hornet]

What is causing this?

[uneven aspen]

are you doing battery packaging unit into thermal bank?

[hidden hornet]

Yeah

[uneven aspen]

probably that then

add some buffer batteries

[hidden hornet]

Huh what causes it?

[uneven aspen]

the delay it takes for the battery to transfer to the thermal bank

[hidden hornet]

That should theoretically be the right ratio

[uneven aspen]

maybe is teh cause

[hidden hornet]

Oh

[uneven aspen]

the dige website tool is pretty damn accurate. 1.7 power diff and it works fine

[zealous gust]

(1) do we just collect all sewage in one spot at wuling aic and then just one conduit line to test area? there is no pipe capacity issue?
(2) if we fully utilize purification nodes at test area, we can save energy by removing wastewater facility. is that the only benefit?

[uneven aspen]

had to reroute hetonite from stash to aic for 5 power though

[fair tundra]

If there is no Outpost here, then make one here.

[shut hearth]

what the-

what are u doing there?

[ruby sorrel]

why would you do this

[uneven aspen]

purification units work outside the aic

[upper fiber]

M

[shut hearth]

why are u sending the inert back?

[ruby sorrel]

it doesn't make any sense to make lxira pull it to test and then dump eff back, can you get a pic from above

[upper fiber]

1. yes, no
2. you get xircon eff after lv4 puri node

[rancid drum]

how likely do you guys think is

[keen river]

you may need to use the double conduit if you plan to siphon a lot of sewage

[rancid drum]

they might increase the number of ore deposits in wuling city area

[keen river]

wuling city unlikely

[valid gazelle]

Very not likely

[keen river]

but they will probably add few more maps to wuling region

and another outpost

[rancid drum]

im using hydro rigs on spots with 2 originium deposits lol just in case they add a 3rd or smtn

[valid gazelle]

Wuling City probably wont get any more ore upgrades

[rancid drum]

idk if i should swap them to mk1 rigs

4 facilities vs 2

[hidden hornet]

Yes switch

[rancid drum]

pump+splitter

[tough berry]

just use inlet outlet

and wire it up to another mines location

[nova pilot]

Bottom right is an accident

[tough berry]

btw seem max for potion build is 11 hv cant go 12 since it be using 310 xianite

[mental birch]

For some reason I remade the previous build and I left it for 2 nights
It doesn’t jam

[lean bobcat]

Bus
I can't tell if this is good or bad

[fair tundra]

Making Xiron liquid

[prime ocean]

what's the maximum rate of xircon effluent the refinement node in the test area makes?

[upper fiber]

1/5s

[prime ocean]

that's with 6 sewage inputs?

[fair tundra]

Because i have 0 sanity and the factory must grow

[gaunt coral]

[shadow void]

hope you can spend that much

[gaunt coral]

Yes

[shadow void]

hmm

[shadow void]

Oh, you havent bought anything?

[gaunt coral]

[gaunt coral]

Not really

with valley iv stuff

[shadow void]

Yeah, V4 stuff isnt that hard to afford

[gaunt coral]

117 million valley iv bills evaporated in less than a minute

[shadow void]

show your income report

[gaunt coral]

.allin

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1487161512144408837/jr2xxrs.png?ex=69c82296&is=69c6d116&hm=f3d753f5f36591c36ee852d059da788a4d2bf7a68158e239f3c1b9e7a1830549&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=640&height=640

[copper lily]

How much sandleaf and yazhen do i need in wuling? Is 600/mins too much?

[wispy grove]

Finally

[shadow void]

dang, i was hoping to see 99% red

[wispy grove]

Finished making bp post

[copper lily]

Can anyone share your sandleaf and yazhen usage?

[atomic fiber]

how to do the teleportation pipe tech?

[shadow void]

.

[copper lily]

Damn, we have the same number. Thanks you. Thought i made too much of them.

They take too much space

[shadow void]

I could be doing more Yahzen if i was making Meds, but i'm making 30 Heto

once i cap Heto Parts and get 10k Heto Comps i'll probably be setting up Yazhen A, or make half Jincao

[bitter ice]

How many Amethyst do we get in valley 4?

[gaunt coral]

8

idk

[shadow void]

Its enough for 24/m of the C meds

[hoary crag]

still can't get over ferrium being treated like amethyst in wuling

[shadow void]

I split mine like this just because it stores more bills in goods

[hoary crag]

I just keep mine at 18/min HCV and Buck Cap A

[gaunt coral]

i only have basic stuff and battery in valley4

[hoary crag]

outpaces outposts even without me making med Cs

[ruby sorrel]

19.75/14.5

[shadow void]

Hmm, i've never bothered to see how many bills I make taking into account I run Wuling off HCVs from V4

I consume 13.88/m HCV running both V4 and Wuling

so 4.12/m HCV to sell

[mellow jungle]

man they really do not want anyone placing stuff around the ms outpost

[valid gazelle]

Why.....

[shadow void]

assume it gets taken up by an upgrade in the future

[gaunt coral]

Ruan yi getting slammed by Endmin in 30 seconds after making 10 years of plan to destroy wuling

[ruby sorrel]

it's funny how it turns out making less HC to power stuff with LC gives more HC to sell

[shadow void]

RIP bozo

[shadow void]

whats that look like

[gaunt coral]

Oh

[gaunt coral]

[ruby sorrel]

19.75 buck 14.5 hc, 4.5hc+12lc for power leaves enough to clear 1st/3rd outposts with buck and 2nd with hc

[valid gazelle]

But doesn't selling LC benefits more ? Or my math is wrong again

[ruby sorrel]

otherwise you use too much hc for power to clear a whole outpost

the point was to make a ratio that doesn't require swapping what you sell every week or so

[upper fiber]

huh? you guys swapping?

even with 18 18 no need for swapping

[daring rapids]

Who's swapping

[shadow void]

I use 6.47/m in V4 and 7.41/m in Wuling

[ruby sorrel]

nah can't do it with 18 18, maybe I was using too much power

[mellow jungle]

i mean i can guess why

[upper fiber]

i still swapping chen to xaihi though becoz i don't have yvonne...

[valid gazelle]

More like.. those areas are likely to be upgraded along side your Sub PAC so of course they reserved it for those

[ruby sorrel]

cus if you spend 16+ buck on first 2 outposts you need to sell 12.24 to last one leaving you with 5.7ish hc to use for power

[shadow void]

what about the 24/m C

[ruby sorrel]

that's swapping

[valid gazelle]

Don't you notice the outposts getting more and more lively the more upgraded your sub Pac is ?

[atomic fiber]

do anyone have optimal solution to connect pipe from Wuling city to test area that use the less amount of faculties count?

[hoary crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903971581548711947/1114920233556258887/skill_issue.gif

[shadow void]

?

[valid gazelle]

[ruby sorrel]

ya idk how ppl are doing 18 18 and not swapping trade items

[valid gazelle]

I think lowest possible so far is 4 sets of conduit

[atomic fiber]

no, that is like high af

[undone current]

yeah, n more heavier to load in

[mellow jungle]

yeah what im saying is that the area is blocked because ugprading the outpost will add more building and stuff, and if you place stuff in the area before upgrading it, it get clipped into the walls

[valid gazelle]

It is the lowest possible..

[ruby sorrel]

wym 4 is high

[undone current]

4 if u count main aic conduit

[atomic fiber]

I'm already doing 4 now. surely there is better way

[ruby sorrel]

it's pairs, it's got a conduit on the outside

[solid slate]

Hi guys am i going on the right path took me a month to get where i am

[ruby sorrel]

why would you not count it

[shadow void]

what that look like

[tough berry]

btw guys i saw in sk sport

[waxen aurora]

why are you wasting batts instead of sending them into depots

[tough berry]

update oflv 3 is bad in outpost

[atomic fiber]

huh?

[tough berry]

they put walls in sides

[solid slate]

Wdym?

[waxen aurora]

youre not using 1k power, send some batteries into depot and sell

[valid gazelle]

I dont think a minor inconvenience can make the upgrade "bad" when it almost doubles the income

[ruby sorrel]

it's not even 4 banks that thing is making 75%

[shadow void]

This?

[solid slate]

Oh did not think of that

[ruby sorrel]

yeah the fence is kinda annoying

[silver shoal]

Guys uh shud I change this up or

[tough berry]

you do inlet outlet but use pipe till its near the limit of lenght before you use inlet outlet again its reduces the amount of stuff you needed since 1 short pipe and 1 long pipe till limit count as same as 1

[shadow void]

seems intrusive, but not enough for me to not upgrade

[ruby sorrel]

can't not upgrade anyways

[tough berry]

remind me dapan trolled me

i still need to wait 4hrs

[undone current]

this one?

[tough berry]

before i canfill remaining smallbar

[mellow jungle]

nvm i found place to clip them in

[solid slate]

@waxen aurora but anything i need to add or what cause i want to make sure i have all the material for better gear

[shadow void]

ahh, thats not counted the test area conduits?

[undone current]

yeah not included

[valid gazelle]

Wait my purifications are here what is gonna happen to them

[shadow void]

gotcha, not gonna bother changing then. think i use one more set, but thats because i prebuilt the pipe going toward the entrance, and the hookup there needed another right on the boarder

[silver shoal]

Fellas?

[waxen aurora]

trust me finding components from boxes is better than massproducing them (especially amethyst components)

[shadow void]

[prisma surge]

Guys is there a bp for liquid hveay xiranite?

[shadow void]

probably pushed up or inaccessable

[tough berry]

is it just?

add crucible near forge?

[shadow void]

I've only got 2 sets in Test Area

one on the boarder and one at the Purinode

[valid gazelle]

We'll see

The lv up is in 2 hours

[shadow void]

[stable zodiac]

its just h.xiranite with acid tho, unless you want one that build from xiranite

[tough berry]

wish our next depot location can still use this 1 switch ahahah

[stone quartz]

can someone help me explain how to use the expanded crucible? because I cannot get it to output 1 xircon / 2s

granted I'm just trying it in the sim, but is this the best it can do or am I doing something wrong?

[tough berry]

1 xicon of 15?

[shadow void]

kinda outta the way

[tough berry]

or judt really 1?

[prisma surge]

okay thanks i just realise i put normal xiranite instead of heavy 💀

[pulsar willow]

hello can you share your xiranite setup

[stable zodiac]

sry guy dumb question but is there a way to select the belt under a pipe in bulk mode?

[pulsar willow]

I've seen it a couple of times and I think I've been trying to recreate something similar since yesterday

[waxen aurora]

go in normal view and manually select it

thats so annoying

[tough berry]

if 15 you need to put in xianite 1 ferium 1powder 1 sewage 1 water on it and pipe out extra sewage out if no other xicron nearby use split 1 goes back to the crucible and at front use control port to lessen sewage output

[stable zodiac]

yeah thats how i usually did thing, i just wonder if there are right way to do it with bulk

[upper fiber]

you also can highlight that spot and deselect the pipe

[stable zodiac]

hmm

[silk lichen]

how do you achieve 5/m hetonite part with ferrium splitting?

im losing my sense trying to do it

[shadow void]

has anyone calculated how much you could get farming crates?

[tough berry]

???

crates loot?

[waxen aurora]

yes

[shadow void]

picking up heto comps from crates is crazy tbh

[waxen aurora]

those wooden boxes

[tough berry]

is it rng?

[waxen aurora]

yes

[valid gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1499220517557895229

[waxen aurora]

gives meds and comps

[tough berry]

then we can calculate it lol

[green sleet]

Ive been getting buckets of the xira comps

[tough berry]

cant

[waxen aurora]

5 xiranite or 2 cuprium

never seen hetonite yet

[shadow void]

you can, just get the avg

from like 3 chests, dont remember

[green sleet]

Avg out of how many crates? Whats the sample size youre goin fer?

[shadow void]

I dunno, i just thought about it

[tough berry]

just split it first output split to 3 then 1 on left or right split to 2 1 going back in the storage = 25

[undone current]

u can get 50 xira comp from marker stone building area

[copper lily]

Can i connect 2 regular conduits to 1 twin conduit?

[valid gazelle]

Yes

[shadow void]

one crate

[vast iron]

5/min us just a 25/min splitter

Not very difficult on ferrium

[valid gazelle]

Oh hi hecker

[vast iron]

Hi

[copper lily]

Woah.
I'll do that. Thanks you. It'll help alot

[green sleet]

Lucky duck. Im getting shafted by rng. They keep givin me xirinite comps 😭

[vast iron]

Im going crazy

[tough berry]

dang xira comp for crate is nice

[shadow void]

3 crates total

[tough berry]

though gonna painfull to farm

[pulsar willow]

very cool thank you

[silk lichen]

is there a calculation for 20? maybe around 4,x something? thank you anyway

[valid gazelle]

Instructions are within the thread

Just scroll down a bit

[valid gazelle]

Wha-

[tough berry]

remove the double split just 1 split of 3 1 going back to storage done 20

[valid gazelle]

[undone current]

just split 3 then combine 2 of it while last goes back in

[silk lichen]

much appreciatedd

[tough berry]

btw guy any try to think that why they given us 2 output of originium cause they be needed for 12 of newest bat? later next week update?

[shadow void]

getting 10 SC batteries from a crate is nice

[magic geyser]

What do you do with the extra 20/min xiranite?

[vast iron]

Yeah ive made a few breakthroughs with fotsswap and i should have a prototype by tomorrow

[tough berry]

on potion?

[valid gazelle]

Wait wait.. the same fots that both creates xyranite and heavy xyranite?

[vast iron]

Yes

5bulker is perfected

[magic geyser]

potion?? What do you mean?