aic-factory

[dark crane]

so pretty

[warm sparrow]

i use 3 of the new forgers for xiranite and 1 for heavy xiranite is that correct?

[dusky geyser]

dam neat and tidy

[unreal laurel]

thats criminally good

[tall tangle]

oh. the way you placed stash on edge with bridges up made me think you will remove it and play tetris with differevt ver.'s.

[lament token]

do i need 18 sc batss/min to make 12 heavy xiranite /min

[brittle sedge]

my old design
you can choose to stash excess powder or sandleaf

[lofty lodge]

aight, gotta copy this just in case i need this layout

[rocky niche]

thanks!

[silk lichen]

anytime

[warm sparrow]

i use 3 of the new forgers for xiranite and 1 for heavy xiranite is that correct?

[tall tangle]

@keen badge my old design. bridgeless. with room to improve if symmetry sacrificed

[bold vessel]

actually, i use my left over inert eff from making SC bat to make 6/min heavy xira using 3 forges. i have 5 more forge left, i dont know whats the best to do with them yet

[upper fiber]

bridgeless but need 5 pylons.... that's even worse number

[keen badge]

@brittle sedge@tall tangle
good ones! 😮
I'll look them over 🙂

[scarlet osprey]

i looked at my graph after a week
huh

[tall tangle]

badly unoptimized and old. space back then was not an issue at all

[scarlet osprey]

i apprently have 0 dense originium

well there you have it i solved the battery problem

[bold vessel]

i have 5 forge left, what should i do with them?

[scarlet osprey]

make more xiranite
its so more batteries

[upper fiber]

easiest is make 1 heavy xira

then 1 xyra for comp

[uneven aspen]

attempting 42.5/min xiranite usage (30+5+7.5)

[scarlet osprey]

all this math hurts my brain

[valid gazelle]

thanks @hoary crag for the zipline

[bold vessel]

i dont think thats sustainable even with meta transfer

[scarlet osprey]

that looks like a satisfactory base

[lofty lodge]

i use 10 xiranites forges and 2 heavy forges to get this result

[fathom glade]

aren't you draining your ferrium?

[scarlet osprey]

again i dont math
i just think it would work til it stops eventually

[daring rapids]

heh

[scarlet osprey]

i have 0 originium dense blocks
clearly i dont do math

[fathom glade]

do we have the bill generation number totals

with the lv3 cardiac

[bold vessel]

can i see your ori ore

[scarlet osprey]

as i was saying this i remembered turning off 3 grinding units cause i needed power or something

[scarlet osprey]

nah its fine its jsut i keep forgetting

[lofty lodge]

thats a lot of battery, hope tangtang have enough credit to buy it

[bold vessel]

i wanna see your ori ore usage i mean

[fervent lodge]

is it just me or lc wuling is better to make

[scarlet osprey]

i just closed the game bruh

i aint gonna pull it up

[daring rapids]

tangtang never had a chance even before this test area

[lofty lodge]

.tangtang2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1473055467092709655/117134493cfa4506.png?ex=6994d14f&is=69937fcf&hm=1e6a9ff7db5526ea0e479813be9b10d9312711146541ae361088402fdd1131b1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=1080

[upper fiber]

if you use 5k power, yeah

[tacit quarry]

there isn't enough protocal for new patch

[keen river]

interesting

[valid gazelle]

now my SIRcon stabilized..

what

welp... if it works.. dont touch it ig

[tall tangle]

up till it clogs

[jade temple]

how do i use it for delivery ?

[daring rapids]

clog-free or nah?

[mystic glen]

You can probs do one 30/m line and then another line where you

split 3 => 3 x 10
split one of the 10 lines two times by 2, this gives you 2.5

Take one of the original 10 lines and the 2.5 line to get the remaining 12.5. Everything else form the splitters goes back to depot. Not sure if its more efficient than what you ard doing right now, but that would be my first guess on how to do this.

[valid gazelle]

clogfree

it should be that high anyway

[daring rapids]

https://klipy.com/gifs/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure--k01KRP4MMH9NYTF9R1A59TZFSGS

[storm garnet]

300 IQ

[valid gazelle]

ofc i designed this myself

[storm garnet]

1k tank and it fuses the lines together before redistributing the cuprium liquid

[upper fiber]

dense ori meta transfer?

[valid gazelle]

yep

[atomic fiber]

you doing 6/min heto part?

[novel herald]

is 1 sewage inlet (the new purification thingy) can take 1 manifold worth of sewage? Or need 2?

[storm garnet]

setup for 6/min, but half is turned off

[empty sun]

Should I do this for "load balancing" purpose?

[storm garnet]

just in case, i ended up making the whole thing again

[atomic fiber]

so... 3/min?

[storm garnet]

yes lol

[valid gazelle]

yep

[atomic fiber]

i see...

[valid gazelle]

half heto half medicine ?

[uneven aspen]

yup that's doable since i am using 3 depot unloaders to do 30 5 7.5

can easily do 30 12.5 loader but i mostly want to see if the 7.5 works or not

[storm garnet]

yep, half and half

well, food is technically 6/min, just 1 full lol

[uneven aspen]

am confused why originum is at 570 though i think i messed up math somewhere

[storm garnet]

actually, i'll turn it all on today while i play some quests, since i have some cuprium in the depot

[reef shuttle]

why is the water treatment facility not being used?

[storm garnet]

30/min means 1 extra building somewhere

prob xira components at half speed

[uneven aspen]

it should be at 565 because of the 42.5 xiranite usage

480+ 85 = 565(540+25 meta)

[storm garnet]

you have xira in the depot, so it's going full speed

[brittle cove]

Howdy AIC nerd friends
I ran some piping to Test area to dump my unused sewage, but currently don't use the effluent for anything.

What are y'all using it for?
I took the additional 4 forges + 30/min Dense Ori to make LC batteries, metastorage gives another 25/min, I average about 3/min LC

[uneven aspen]

480 from sc wuling batteries and idea is 85 from xira components

[valid gazelle]

extra originium + effluent = SCW

3 extra

[brittle cove]

Guess metastorage some ferrium powder over then?

[storm garnet]

wait, you are meta ori ore?

[valid gazelle]

nope dense originium

im balanced in my ferrium usage

[storm garnet]

you should meta dense ori cubes

[small creek]

Thinking if i should make lcw or xiranite comp

with the extra orig and xir

[brittle cove]

How you manage that?
2 SCW + 1 30/min Hetonite would use all

[valid gazelle]

im not running 30 hetonite

[uneven aspen]

hmmmm maybe that will help save power too thanks will consider it

[atomic fiber]

you use that effluent on heavy xir. scw is 14.75/min yield

[valid gazelle]

im running 15

15 hetonite + 1 full yazhen

[brittle cove]

Makes sense

[uncut briar]

how did you make extra 20 xircon? and 2nd 6/m heavyX ;w;

i just found my new setup clog ;w;

[pine sail]

That's pretty good

[uncut briar]

my usual 60/m xircon and 6/m works,

when i try new setup to burn xiranite and get somewhere 30xircon and 6/m 2nd heavyX, it end up clog
aaaaaaa

[storm garnet]

not just power, you get double the value

[uncut briar]

its after 1h or so

[valid gazelle]

id just turned off the game when you asked

gimme a bit

[uncut briar]

umm its fineeeee actually, take your time , can even be tomorrow

[brittle cove]

Rn those LCW batteries let me only use 1.25 SCW per minute

May be a bit more efficient to make however many more SCW instead?

[uncut briar]

is it fine if i supply too much water or sewage for that?

thats 20/m ?

[atomic fiber]

LCW is for people kinda want comfy.
SCW always better

[uncut briar]

[brittle cove]

I think I'mma have to retweak my setup lol

[simple vessel]

uh guys what do i even do with this?

[uneven aspen]

hmm now im wondering if i should just have this be constrained by the 25/m dense ori

[brittle cove]

Maybe make some syringes with the leftover cuprium by cutting down the Hetonite line

[pine sail]

Connected all the pipe and feed all sewage to this, so you gain 350stockbill per HOUR

[brittle cove]

Rn I'm just using it to save 200 power by dumping sewage

[valid gazelle]

yes

it should be a 1-1

[pine sail]

aka, not worthit unless you love the sport

[mystic glen]

Here's a 12.5 that I think should work (left) and one I think won't work, but might be nice if it does (right)

edit: actually I think the right might work if placed via blueprint. the return converger will take from the first splitter first as it has prio, so that one won't skip (good) and the last splitter which goes to this same converger will not have prio, but it has 2 belt spaces to wait and only outputs at 2.5/m rate, so I think this works out to where the 2 space belt won't clog and third splitter won't skip either. But again, haven't tested, just theorizing.

[atomic fiber]

14.75/min scw
3/min heto part
6/min meds A
is what many people here do from what i see... not too bald but near max eff

[simple vessel]

yea no, not wasting my time

[uncut briar]

how did that 2nd forge get 6/m ? from 20/m xircon and purif

[brittle cove]

I have nothing to use my hetonite on anyway so might as well

I like making pretty factories anyway so maybe I'll do that this weekend

[brittle cove]

I assume the 14.75 is because we only get 25/min dense ori from metastorage instead of 30?

[atomic fiber]

yeah it meta transfer dense orig cube

[pine sail]

Yep

[meager stream]

skip, bwahaha (its optional choice up to you) if you wanna do it, yaa connect them to main pac

[valid gazelle]

yes i sent 5.5 lines of sewage to prui node

[brittle cove]

Gotcha
I need to move some stuff around in Wuling too, and pipe over acid to main AIC to make Hetonite there instead

[uncut briar]

[pine sail]

My production at the moment

[keen badge]

Pretty neat 👀
28x16

[storm garnet]

oh, shit, i just noticed this

the new extra effluent gives nothing after all

[brittle cove]

Man
Getting the sewage to test area and back is the most annoying part

[storm garnet]

i might need to make extra effluent with the extra xiranite

[meager stream]

why nothing reds xD

[fervent lodge]

took me half an hour just now

[orchid pilot]

The double conduit supports full capacity from two pipes, i.e., 4 u/s. You can test yourself by connecting 2 water pumps to 1 pipe inlet and 2 water pumps to the other pipe inlet

[fervent lodge]

thank GOD for the teleport bug

[pine sail]

it feed 5/m of extra effluent, barely nothing

[atomic fiber]

yeah... I'm just going to assume those things as free sewage treatment. 7/min effluent is not useable

[brittle cove]

I am out of protocol capacity in Wuling city and Wuling AIC lol

[storm garnet]

other people said the math was positive on xircon

[fervent lodge]

that treatment area is only useful as cuprium overflow prevention

[storm garnet]

didn't actually check how

[pine sail]

nothing red??

[brittle sedge]

the problem with this is two empty spots in the middle though
cant do anything with it without sacrificing symmetry

[valid gazelle]

i dont do math but it is positive for me

[brittle cove]

Need to move my afk alluvium farm somewhere else, and make stabilized carbon in Marker stone instead

[delicate seal]

does yazhen A production require the yazhen solution in cuprium bottles or can i put it in ferrium bottles

[brittle cove]

cuprium only iirc

[delicate seal]

darn

[storm garnet]

time to make another extracurricular crucible just for effluent

[atomic fiber]

I'm planning to clog the xircon on the 3rd SCW line. because the ratio is ugly, and making pwm kinda thing will be too messy for this

[meager stream]

over usage mats xD

[brittle cove]

I have one of those feeding the effluent for my 2nd heavy xira line

[pine sail]

haha

[storm garnet]

yea, i mean ANOTHER one

[reef shuttle]

you mean the new water treatment is shit?

[pine sail]

350stock bill per HOUR

[storm garnet]

i mean people lied to me

i feel dirty, my innocence is gone

[pine sail]

but I connected it anyway

XDD

[reef shuttle]

why is it even there

[magic geyser]

Can someone post their wuling Regional development Metric log? I just want to compare and make sure I got everything.

[storm garnet]

to give people a sense of purpose

a futile one

[atomic fiber]

to make people suffer piping them all the way between map

[reef shuttle]

it's over 2M too lmfao for full upgrade

[pine sail]

Maybe it's for the next sub AIC? and I believe that you can level up the purifier further in the future

[reef shuttle]

all that 2M money goes to waste

[storm garnet]

i'll be honest, piping is fun, it's just the building limit that gets me

[small totem]

how are you guys using the new factory?? like what are you guys making?

[storm garnet]

that's nothing. you get region lvl too. it's like leveling up owls

[atomic fiber]

4 is max level for everything so far. lv5 is kinda cope

[pine sail]

Yeah, that's why I am hyperthetically coping

[deft herald]

Tell me how can I start wulling factory with valley battery ?

[mystic glen]

real value probs bit higher tho, cuz 0 power way to manage sewage, less power, more battery, more bills. Treatment plants 50 power each adds up.

[pine sail]

becuase it brings nothing to the game other than just cleaning up the pools

if you're devs, you would wish players to engage with it

[vapid granite]

Apparently im making 7 heavy xirinite but idk where

[atomic fiber]

14.75/min scw
3/min heto part
6/min meds a
changing 2 or 3 forge for heavy xir

[small totem]

Oh, so basically 3 battery farm but overusing the origium

[atomic fiber]

you go to diijang. get HC battery to your backpack from valley depot, put those HC battery in bag to wuling depot

repeat

[vapid granite]

The best way i can calmy direct myself to planning, focusing and building my factory

is pretend Perlica is telling me what to do

[atomic fiber]

meta transfer dense orig cube

[pine sail]

this is my plan, basically prioritizing everything for the battery, all ferrium for the battery first

[small totem]

not ferrium??

are you transfering ferrium like how we used to?

[atomic fiber]

no. dense orig cube give more value by alot

[atomic fiber]

no. i do dense orig cube

[simple vessel]

u are missing something here, u may produce 14.75 battery but you are also consuming some of it

[atomic fiber]

hc valley maybe, dunno

[small totem]

no no, i meant going in Dijjiang, and than manually transfering ferrium from V4 to Wuling

[pine sail]

Since when we count the consumed battery?

[small totem]

and, this is my rate even after i used all origium

[simple vessel]

wait so u are having extra 14.75 after consumption??????

[storm garnet]

why use so many batteries

[atomic fiber]

no. the ratio that i give you in fact don't even use 90/min ferrium, so you get excess Ferrium by little bit

[storm garnet]

2 banks are enough

[small totem]

Gotcha

[pine sail]

No, why would we use consumed metric to confuse people?

[atomic fiber]

yeah 14.75/min

[simple vessel]

whats your power consumption?

[pine sail]

6.2

6.2k

I think everyone are around 6

[small totem]

damn, mine is 7.2k

.........

[valid gazelle]

7.2 ??

[storm garnet]

stop using turrets with pylons pls

use batteries

[simple vessel]

hm makes sense, its 7.77k for me

[cedar needle]

depends heavily on whether you power the mortars

[mystic glen]

it inflates the bill generation number a bit tho, but it's kinda annoying to account for cuz everyone has different zip line and/or allevium setups

[simple vessel]

too lazy to use battery on it

[storm garnet]

dude, it's a one and done

[atomic fiber]

how y'all use so much... mine only 5.1k

[storm garnet]

you never have to touch it again

[thin grotto]

15/min scw
1/min lcw
9/min Potion A
6/min hxira
~ 6/min xira due to purification node
6/min all 3 components at a deficit of 80/min Dense Ori (Manual labour Transfer) and using stockile for het component

[storm garnet]

it's harder to actually setup the turrets

[pine sail]

Oh, 6.1

[cedar needle]

each zone of mortar is like 300, so we are talking about 1.2k combined

[pine sail]

Since you don't need power for the water treatment

But even with water treatment mine goes up to 6.5

[small totem]

too many ziplines

KEKW

[atomic fiber]

9.8k almost double of mine

[simple vessel]

wait how much does 50 pc of battery last in 1 turrent?

[thin grotto]

Forever

[silk lichen]

9,8k ur not saving? 😭

[simple vessel]

u serious??????

[atomic fiber]

i have around 40+ ziplines on wuling city , but mine only 5.1k

[mystic glen]

I calced that a bit ago, give me a sec to find my post

[small totem]

i've to add more ziplines anyway, so i was like "Why not'"

[simple vessel]

how did u do 350 😭. im at 217

[thin grotto]

Like even If you Ran 3-5 alluviums a day, it hardly makes a dent in a single battery

[small totem]

it's not juust in Wuling city, there's everywhere, and then there's this too

[small totem]

We don't talk about it.....

[atomic fiber]

you are more likely to change them first because new turret come, then it out of battery. and yes it will take years for it to get empty

[simple vessel]

i wanna see your map

[atomic fiber]

you should have used battery, battery is more efficient

[mystic glen]

long story short, it's always better to use battery power over net power for efficiency

and it lasts forever

[simple vessel]

uh after seeing this, i may use battery💀

[mystic glen]

a stack of 50 bats is like 6000 clears~ish

[brittle cove]

Yeah I think I'm gonna move my AFK Essence farm to Marker stone since I don't have anything in there really

Need the space in Wuling cuty 🙁

[silk lichen]

when someone doing bugs I had to, wasted some power but worth it

[atomic fiber]

zipline are cheap. the problem is your turret

[small totem]

yeah, but i'm using alot of it

[keen badge]

Yeah I see it @.@
You can try and shuffle things around but it just works against you after a point >.<
17x30

[atomic fiber]

I'm also using lots of zipline, only 5.1k power total

[mystic glen]

I just use HC valley bats, since valley 4 overproduces them by a huge margin and a stack of them still lasts practically forever

[simple vessel]

😭 i still cant imagine you used 350 of them

[small totem]

what about turrents?

[lone aspen]

How to stock the liquid from here?

[small totem]

but yeah, let me try this

[atomic fiber]

1 turret can eat equal to 20 or more zipline power

[small totem]

you got the answer than KEKW

[simple vessel]

just dont, simple (if u dont want to waste time for 350 bills/hr)

[lone aspen]

To send it to the hub for heavy xyranite

[lone aspen]

So all this stuff is useless?

[simple vessel]

from what everyone said me, yes

[thin grotto]

For minmaxing, it could net you a handful xircon/xiranite, Like in my Case ive got 5 xiranite/min to spare which is Something to sneeze at

[left bear]

is there a limit to the amount of sewage the dam can recieve?

[thin grotto]

6/s per Receiver iirc

[mystic glen]

3 pipes right? so max 6/s I guess

[deft herald]

After ?

[left bear]

so 2 copium ore production each basically?

[uneven aspen]

makes me wonder if we getting bigger capacity pipes as an upgrade

[mystic glen]

which is the equivalent of 12 treatment plants or in theory a power saving of 600W

[storm garnet]

i was going crazy trying to think how i would fit another effluent crucible in my aic, but then remembered i can just transform my xircon crucible into a full 3 recipe one

[thin grotto]

Or all your Cuprium sewage wouldnt fill one

[left bear]

wait wdym

[atomic fiber]

after what?

[silk lichen]

that seems lifetime

[versed ermine]

sigh.... i just reached facility limit in wuling, given the size of the area and how much shit you need there the limit is kinda low

[simple vessel]

1 battery charges the whole 152000? or wot?

[left bear]

they're consuming per shot right?

[deft herald]

I put the battery in my wulling depot

[sick basin]

Ye
And it eats like 160 per shot

[storm garnet]

i need more effluent to make extra xircon, and had a crucible making only the solid xircon recipe

[small creek]

50 batteries

[storm garnet]

1 battery is 152000 worth of energy

[silk lichen]

1 battery

oops wrong tag

[simple vessel]

hmm

[small creek]

either i misremember or underestimated scw

cus i only charge turret with hcv lol

[storm garnet]

when the battery gets empty, then a new one recharges the turret energy pool

[atomic fiber]

then you use it on wuling

[left bear]

if they take 160 per shot that's 950 shots

[atomic fiber]

1 thermal bank burning HC batt give 1100 power. calculate how much thermal bank you need

[atomic fiber]

hcv is already overkill anyway, doesn't matter

[small creek]

Speaking of which i should import 80k hcv into wuling now

[uneven aspen]

new essence farm takes around 10-15 seconds longer than marker stone for me

[fervent lodge]

With the event over, I don't think there's literally any reason to have anything involving acid running, or anything involving SC battery running?

just dump all cuprium into yazhen a, make lc batteries

[deft herald]

Ok

[fervent lodge]

am i not getting something? why do you even need effluent in the first place

[small creek]

the effluent is highk useless

we already have too much xiranite

and they just gave us more

[atomic fiber]

heavy xir

[fervent lodge]

but what do you need heavy xir for

[small creek]

it can also break your factory if youre not careful

[fervent lodge]

yazhen a sells out both outposts with minimal investment

[uncut briar]

this is why ACID is so important... the boss die immediately 3s after spawn (3s bcs some tower waiting for its aspd), each my tower only hit the boss once and its overkilled

[atomic fiber]

becoming more rich on goods that can be selled on outpost

[storm garnet]

done. the water comes from the purification units lol

[fervent lodge]

outposts can't regen fast enough anyway

[tribal crescent]

bro really uses water from purification

[atomic fiber]

stockpiles

[uneven aspen]

I do have 2 acid towers though . . .

[storm garnet]

right? imagine

[valid gazelle]

why not ? saves you a pump

[tribal crescent]

i like dumping

[storm garnet]

and risks you a clog

[tribal crescent]

save me the trouble of thinking

[atomic fiber]

i usually just clog that water to some crucible

[valid gazelle]

true but both lines are continuous and eternally active so

[storm garnet]

i'm also using the purification acid to make heto

[valid gazelle]

not really a big deal

[storm garnet]

cause can't dump acid in main aic

[tribal crescent]

just bottle it

[storm garnet]

well, i could, but i need to route the acid back lol

[tribal crescent]

[atomic fiber]

bottle

[storm garnet]

nah, i want to pass on bottling

[atomic fiber]

40 power ahhh cost

[tribal crescent]

then uses separating unit in marker

very smort

[storm garnet]

it's my life mission to never use separating unit aside from getting its recipes

[tribal crescent]

^inferior take

[uneven aspen]

looks like i should setup zipline network in the test area for easy packages

[storm garnet]

chad take though

[uneven aspen]

anyone know the locations for deliveries?

[tribal crescent]

where

test area?

[storm garnet]

there are only 3 locations i think

3 npcs

[tribal crescent]

can you screenshot the map

not ingame rn

[small creek]

i only know of 2 rn

[tribal crescent]

there's a 3rd

[small creek]

havent even set up my zips

[storm garnet]

on the area 3, on the right bottom corner

next to the pillar

[digital mirage]

factory has to be re-done for new area again? e_e

[small creek]

this extra effluent has been giving me a lot of trouble for what its worth

[tribal crescent]

right of the square area

[gentle sentinel]

One of them is on the type C

[small creek]

Stop telling me ill find it tomorrow

[tribal crescent]

no

do it now

be efficient

[small creek]

no

[tribal crescent]

i thought you like being efficient

[small creek]

i dont even do test area deliveries

[tribal crescent]

😡

[uneven aspen]

i only see 3 but wanted to make sure before i build it

[tribal crescent]

what

[tribal crescent]

yeah

only 3 for now

[jovial breach]

Same

[small creek]

is this efficient enough for u

[tribal crescent]

ew

full heto

[small creek]

im hoarding comp

i have my reasons

[storm garnet]

purification water, south is xircon, north split between extra water for food and dumping

[tribal crescent]

no

you are banned from using the word efficient

[storm garnet]

you can't never have enough splits and merges

[small creek]

I literally calcd half heto to be more efficient

But idgaf cus i want my heto comps

[tribal crescent]

do you have lvl 3 marker yet

[small creek]

no, jade gourds broke my outpost

[tribal crescent]

i am making all 3 comps

[storm garnet]

right, gourds fucked up many people

[tribal crescent]

but i fear lvl 3 marker will not let me slack off

[jovial breach]

[tribal crescent]

also tbf

you just use the xiranite comp gears to artifice anyway

so actually we are in need of originium

[small creek]

I know

[tribal crescent]

more than ever

fuck this

[storm garnet]

at least i saw asia had lvl 3 and stopped myself from emptying the outpost again

[small creek]

But i still want 80k heto comp

[jovial breach]

Ye im stockpiling it again

[tribal crescent]

wait actually

if i am using originium for comps

maybe i'll just go full heto

and cut my batt

[small creek]

idk if i should stockpile more

[jovial breach]

Just run on originium deficit

[storm garnet]

full depot or go home

[tribal crescent]

ew

deficit

[small creek]

bro the depot just got upgraded

it was full depot

[tribal crescent]

it was 68k

[jovial breach]

You have 80k ori to burn

[tribal crescent]

that looks like 51k

[small creek]

True

But what if i just make lcw

[tribal crescent]

ok wait

[small creek]

Im gonna run on bill deficit with full heto comp

[storm garnet]

lc is easy route

[tribal crescent]

if i go all in xira comp i also need to eat into xiranite

damn

this is so ass

[small creek]

theres loads of xiranite

dont worry abt it

[jovial breach]

Wait how much lc can you get

[storm garnet]

xiranite is basically free now with 12 forges

[storm garnet]

not that much, i'm talking about setup

it's decent, but sc is better

same as before

just more

[small creek]

lcw is great rn cus it doesnt use ferrium

in case u wanna go full heto

[tribal crescent]

what does 0.5s of inert mean

for purification

[fervent lodge]

I'll just do this while I'm thinking what to do with effluent

[storm garnet]

the thing about lc is that it's ok to make it if you are 5k energy or less

[tribal crescent]

0.125/s eff?

[storm garnet]

if you need more than 5k, just go full sc both on banks and craft

[jovial breach]

That's the case yeah

[small creek]

You could split it equally between hxira and scw

[jovial breach]

5.5k power rn

[small creek]

If you only do one of them, they break

[fervent lodge]

it's currently storing the results of treating that sewage pool

i don't intend to spend it at the moment

[small creek]

Oh

[storm garnet]

honestly i'm glad i'm above 5k, cause now i have a lot of energy from 2 sc banks and i can forget about energy

[small creek]

Yk, tinfoil hat on, that effluent could be worth more in the future than it is rn if they drop HCW

and it happened to use effluent

[fervent lodge]

yep

[small creek]

So carry on

[storm garnet]

even before test zone, i was a bit far from 5k too

[tribal crescent]

ok too much brain usage

[small creek]

Im not playing that long a gamble

[fervent lodge]

my base is literally just 2 sc bat lines
2 yazhen a lines

that's it
(and 10 xiranite in subpac)

[tribal crescent]

i'm not gonna optimize it anymore

[uneven aspen]

this felt pretty satisfying idk why

[storm garnet]

the nightmare was the 1.1 and 1.0

[tribal crescent]

1 xira comp/min is enough

[vague temple]

Anyone know what the rate is for the new water treatment sector at max level?

[tribal crescent]

[tribal crescent]

6/s sewage

max

2/s each machine

[vague temple]

what about the output for the xircon ef

[tribal crescent]

eff output isn't real right now

[vague temple]

oh damn

[tribal crescent]

well it's 30 sewage to 1 eff

[vague temple]

sub 1/s?

[tribal crescent]

so good luck

[vague temple]

oh

💀

[jovial breach]

30 sewage for 1 eff

[tribal crescent]

you cannot even reach 6/s sewage rn

iirc

[storm garnet]

i'm 100% sure hcw will need a recipe that uses liquid heavy xiranite

[tribal crescent]

ceratinly

[storm garnet]

maybe heto mixed in

[vague temple]

so update basically was just 4 free forges :(

[tribal crescent]

and originium

[vague temple]

and 2 cup ores

[tribal crescent]

you get to make more batt

and more yazhen

or heto

[storm garnet]

batteries will always need ori, cause ori is energy itself

[vague temple]

sadge

too lazy to incorporate two new orgi + cup

[uneven aspen]

disagree because packaging unit doesnt have liquids

[tribal crescent]

4 crucible output is worth 0.5/s eff after purification?

[uneven aspen]

liquid heavy xiranite feels like the bombs of valley 4

[storm garnet]

intermediates

[jovial breach]

i just came up with this design, dunno if it works

[storm garnet]

also, buildings can get liquid entrances in the future, it has happened many times already

but it will probably be an intermediate that needs it

[fervent lodge]

buildings that get fluid inputs already have them

from what we have seen

as in, in data

[tribal crescent]

wtf

[storm garnet]

why use a bridge when it's not needed, that's a +1 building

[jovial breach]

That's true

[tribal crescent]

each crucible output is 0.125 eff/s after purification

innit

[jovial breach]

Can remove bridge

[graceful otter]

750 packed origocrust metatransfer is how many in /min?

[uneven aspen]

750/60

[tribal crescent]

12.5

[uneven aspen]

12.5

[tribal crescent]

but why not max

at 1500

[storm garnet]

transfer dense ori, then refine it twice in wuling

you get double

[tribal crescent]

oh right

packed

just use dense originium cube

1 meta value for 2 originium

crazy

[uneven aspen]

so mesmerizing seeing the 25/min in action. every 6th item is skipped for 5/6 rate

[small creek]

@fervent lodge would u happen to know what the current max outpost income is

[storm garnet]

i was all happy going to check the yield and noticed that i forgot to reconnect the extra sc line lol

[graceful otter]

i see...

[storm garnet]

but now i have a positive xircon

[tribal crescent]

[small creek]

my full heto is looking dire

[tribal crescent]

46368 for marker lvl 2 btw

so uh

[magic geyser]

What do you do with the extra 30/m xiranite ?

[tribal crescent]

when you are at lvl 3 you will be cooked

[storm garnet]

that's what i have

idk if i missed something

[small creek]

i know but i just wanna see how cooked

[storm garnet]

lvl 2 outpost btw

[tribal crescent]

wait 2 days later

keep yourself in suspense

better that way

[small creek]

like, can 50k stockpile scw save me for 20 days

or will i die

[tribal crescent]

doubt

[gentle sentinel]

this mine

[storm garnet]

7 days is the max

[tribal crescent]

you know lvl 3 jingyu is like

32k alr

[storm garnet]

after 7 days offline, factory stops

[tribal crescent]

marker lvl 2 is just 10k

[spring elm]

they could update it like they did the filling unit

[tribal crescent]

so lvl 3 that will def jump

the pipes leading into the facilities are just liquid getting teleprotocol'd in anyway

they can just add the funny yellow-orange pipe-looking thing

onto the new facilities

[jovial breach]

Tmr is last free monthly btw

[tribal crescent]

go buy monthly

[river wadi]

[tribal crescent]

smh

my phone breaks so i haven't renewed

[storm garnet]

i see, the 32440 shows the same way after you get to lvl 15

seems i'm just missing the outpost then

[small creek]

oh god

50k will only last me 10 days

[tribal crescent]

[small creek]

this is so cooked

[tribal crescent]

so what's lvl 3 marker like

[storm garnet]

as long as you have above 7 days, it's ok to get into an hospital

[small creek]

i just wanna make heto comp

[tribal crescent]

no

[small creek]

why is it so hard

[tribal crescent]

you will suffer half heto

[small creek]

hmmmmmm

[tribal crescent]

yazhen A calls to you

[storm garnet]

you need like 10k heto comps

[wary vine]

the main feature of the new area is that it allows a faster production of hetonite thanks to the new mining spots, correct?

[storm garnet]

and i added a zero just because

[small creek]

i have 20k rn

and i want more

[storm garnet]

fill the depot with something else first

[tribal crescent]

well you can make full heto now

at the expense of battery and yazhen A

[small creek]

you know, the good thing abt my setup is i can be like a "half heto" at any time

[tribal crescent]

you know why am i even making comp

xira comp is where it is at

not heto comp

[small creek]

maybe ill just do that

[tribal crescent]

[indigo oak]

is using the new puri node worth it?

[storm garnet]

seeing this above 270 is great, but it's not 300...

[solid bane]

There isnt enough sewage to make this worth it

[tribal crescent]

for power

[wary vine]

wait what, did they raise the number of forges??

[spring elm]

I havent missed a day!

[tribal crescent]

your screen has funny rgb scale

[simple vessel]

yes again +4

[tribal crescent]

honestly might be a good sewage color

[spring elm]

geez and yeah I dont bother with it

[solid bane]

Probably cause its taken with phone camera hahaha

[wary vine]

oh God... is it to allow 1 more production of Heavy Xiranite...? 😭 don't wanna mess up... If i remember correctly 1 heavy = 3 normal + 1 forge

[tribal crescent]

1 hxira + 3 xira forges

yeah

or

you can purify 4 crucible

to get 1 more line of eff

[indigo bramble]

Finally, hetonite

[tribal crescent]

so you can save 1 forge

[solid bane]

I wonder if they would raise the 512 limits, its getting harder to put more machines

[wary vine]

I currently do that thanks to the Xircon production... but to do it again i'd need another xircon

[tribal crescent]

[vapid dock]

the purification plant does 30 sewage per how many seconds again

[tribal crescent]

isn't it 10 or sth

i actually haven't tried

[solid bane]

Max is 6 unit/s

But you need 30 sewage for 1 efflu

[vapid dock]

yeah but whats the processing time

[jovial breach]

There's no processing time, but you can only physically input 6/s max so welp, 1 eff per 10s

[vapid dock]

disregarding pipe limitations and current sewage production

[wise cloud]

How do I get 180 cuprium /minute
I only get 160

[valid gazelle]

rdl and purity

[vapid dock]

are you development lv14

[wise cloud]

no

[indigo bramble]

you don't need 14, im lv10 and im getting all 180

[wise cloud]

I am 8

[valid gazelle]

ye but current max is 240

[vapid dock]

lv14 is test area mineral purity, which has cuprium

[solid bane]

Could be because there isnt enough pump to run the miner optimally

[wise cloud]

The blueprints use 180, I only pump 160

should disable em for a while

[tribal crescent]

yazhen A and hetonite parts has the same value per cuprium?

[jovial breach]

Heto is marginally higher value

[tribal crescent]

hm

[storm garnet]

yazhen a is same as heto if you count on the saved ferrium and use it for yazhen c

[tribal crescent]

wth

yazhen C

allat power

for some meager

[keen badge]

Hm this can't get much smaller methinks 🤔
28x17
I'll rest a bit and then take another crack at it

[storm garnet]

heto uses more power

[small creek]

you can share crucibles for yazA and yazC

[tribal crescent]

it it like 0.0625 yaz C/min

[wise cloud]

Any good early game wuling blueprints?

[small creek]

heto uses like, 8 fucking crucibles

[wise cloud]

I can’t make hetonite

I run out of cuprium

[jovial breach]

Me when 0.0625 yazelhenb C

[tribal crescent]

how early game are you

[simple vessel]

switched all the turrents to batteries

[wise cloud]

Test are has cuprium? How do I get to test area?

[tribal crescent]

you need to complete the main quest

[vapid dock]

msq

[wise cloud]

Region level 8

[tribal crescent]

so you need to do marker stone first

[spring elm]

yes but as you can see, not enough solution but it's a start

[tribal crescent]

are you at marker stone

[wise cloud]

Done

[tribal crescent]

or qingbo stockade

lmao?

if you alr cleared marker stone

[indigo bramble]

not enough?

[wise cloud]

I did the quest where we almost killed off zhuang

But unfortunately did not

[tribal crescent]

there is new fog area in wuling city

go there

[wise cloud]

Ohhh

[tribal crescent]

also

if you are at marker stone

you can make heto alr

[wise cloud]

For now….imma make lc batteries

[tribal crescent]

and scw

[spring elm]

need more cuprium solution(more crucibles( so they dont idle

[jovial breach]

Make heavy xiranite in bottle before you go there

[wise cloud]

Not enuf cuprium

[indigo bramble]

Pretty sure that's enough solution

[tribal crescent]

just make half heto and half yazhen A

[indigo bramble]

4 solution for 1 purifier no?

there's 4 crucibles right there

[wise cloud]

My base broke down at the mention of such blasphemy

[tribal crescent]

well

good luck then

you must use it this time

[spring elm]

I guess it's normal.

[tribal crescent]

or normal xira if you feel spicy

[indigo bramble]

Also, my battery plant

[simple vessel]

@pine sail how is your 6.1k 😭

[wise cloud]

Fuhhh….how do get more cuprium

[tribal crescent]

look up kyostinv base

before test area obv

[tribal crescent]

we alr got more than enough cuprium

for heto and yazhen

[trail mirage]

moreee

[tribal crescent]

test area just add more

[storm garnet]

i'm using the expanded crucible 30/min xircon setup for the first time but it's not actually 30/min, i'm kinda sweating

[fervent lodge]

i generally don't do any of these calcs tbh

[wise cloud]

I set up base already, just uses too much cuprium
It makes a ton of heto and heavy
But needs 180

My cuprium sitting at 160

[fervent lodge]

it's all feelscrafting for me

[tribal crescent]

how

[storm garnet]

like, it's starved for sewage, but it supossed to use it's own sewage

[tribal crescent]

160

actually illegal

show aic report

180 is the limit for marker stone

did you pump correctly

[wise cloud]

Development level 8

[indigo bramble]

lv 10 development with marker stone explored here

[tribal crescent]

maybe rdm level issue

go raise

[vapid dock]

lv10 has marker stone mineral purity

[wise cloud]

I see

I need to sell smth then

What makes money fast early game

[small creek]

lol alr

[vapid dock]

uber

now that we have more jobs

[tribal crescent]

elastic

trade high sell low

[storm garnet]

just make sure you can make some liquid heavy xiranite bottles, so you can go to the test area zone

[vague temple]

I love doordashing in arknights

[tribal crescent]

do enviromental jobs

[storm garnet]

then you can get all ores available atm

[tribal crescent]

you can use normal xiranite btw

it's jsut

a massive pain

[storm garnet]

yea, no, heavy

[indigo bramble]

[small creek]

you can also use a fork to eat soup

[vapid dock]

I rmmber someone saying normal xiranite works just that its less potent

[small creek]

hope this helps

[south rover]

ngl i was kinda hoping the test area was going to be another aic location

[tribal crescent]

is more like smaller spoon

[storm garnet]

it works, but it takes like 20 times longer

[tribal crescent]

with bigger spoon

not that bad

[small creek]

2 aic in one patch? dont get greedy

[tribal crescent]

[storm garnet]

also, the blight goes back before you can finish

[tribal crescent]

greed is how you grow your factory

but well

[simple vessel]

try using normal xiranite liquid and heavy xiranite liquid and you can see the difference yourself,

its like sipping tea vs drinking it in one go

[tribal crescent]

new acid pool

big ass water

and no aic

truly sad

[small creek]

being realistic and grounded is how you actually get things done

[wise cloud]

Doesn’t increase development level, I need to sell big if I what rgl

[tribal crescent]

one can dream

[small creek]

and another can work with what they have

[storm garnet]

i wouldn't mind if devs made like a 10x10 aic or something in the test area

[tribal crescent]

but you get more money to make rdm lvl high

did you do all mines yet

[storm garnet]

it would be nice if it happened often after that

[tribal crescent]

lvl up the owls

the bunnies

[trail mirage]

owls dont matter

[tribal crescent]

the depots

owls do matter

[wise cloud]

It’s already done
It’s at 160

[storm garnet]

owls give region lvl

[tribal crescent]

it's jsut they didn't add any since 1.0

[storm garnet]

and they are cheap

[vapid dock]

recycling station does give rdm

[wheat forum]

Depot nodes, EMTs & Rabbit

[storm garnet]

1.1 had an owl

[simple vessel]

did you upgrade the environment monitoring system? its lvl 4 for wuling and lvl 3 for marker stone

[tribal crescent]

as in did you plug all available mines with working rigs

oh right

wuling has the environmental systems too

lvl those

[simple vessel]

and also the owls from 1.0 and 1.1

[storm garnet]

i would lvl wuling city depot and enviromental first

to get tickets fast

[wary vine]

Besides stock, what else can be leveled up now to allow level 14 to be achievable?

[wise cloud]

Owl?

[storm garnet]

owl

[vapid dock]

the event emptying outpost funds really screwed with getting outpost lv early

[wise cloud]

What’s that

[tribal crescent]

oh no

is anyone in game

help bro with the map

[exotic aurora]

is there a bug with Purification Unit or something???
sometimes when i log out and back in. the precipitation acid is in a pipe that's meant for hetonite solution...

[wise cloud]

Oh wait….i saw one in marker stone

[wise cloud]

I was too broke to level it

So yeah back to the thing, I need money

[storm garnet]

it gives a lot of bills, environment is a must

[wise cloud]

How do I make money

[wise cloud]

Does it give rgl?

[storm garnet]

money makes money

[vapid dock]

uber

[tribal crescent]

owls are recycling stations

[storm garnet]

yes

[simple vessel]

spend to make money

[tribal crescent]

apparently for this update we get way more wuling uber

idk what they did

but do them

[vapid dock]

test area has a new depo node which added more deliveries

[tribal crescent]

and they say infinite growth isn't real

[simple vessel]

fr

[simple vessel]

base looks symmetrical but i wanna know the efficiency

[spring palm]

sure

[wise cloud]

Someone gimme lc wuling blueprint

I’ll sell cheap batteries

[tribal crescent]

@storm garnet how do i do 25/30 belt

[storm garnet]

1/3 means 10, then 1/2 to get 5

merge the rest

[tribal crescent]

pls gib bp

me smol brain

[spring palm]

I manufactured in Wuling City, rests are

• 1 steel bottle with heavy xiranite liquid made in Marker Stone
• 1 gear hetonite made in Marker Stone
• 1 gear xiranite made in Jingyu Valley

[tribal crescent]

wow so pro

hm

[storm garnet]

output on the top right is 5

left is 25

[pine sail]

You can actually search up my name on youtube, I just posted the factory video

[tribal crescent]

can i merge top back into srouce

[storm garnet]

yep, you can put another merger before the first splitter

i usually just put it back in depot, cause that gives me less brain work

1 more second thinking is too much

[simple aspen]

success
piping all 4 manifold conduit to the main AIC and using it :^)

[exotic aurora]

what do you get from pumping sewage into these things? i just unlocked them but not sure what they do just yet.

[spring palm]

I have 3 sides inside Wuling City

[storm garnet]

houston, we have a problem. my 30/min heto can't handle purified acid from 2 units, heto only uses the equivalent of 1, so it clogs

[simple aspen]

spare xircon effluent

[storm garnet]

i wonder if splitting and giving the acid to other crucibles will work

[simple aspen]

instead of pumping sewage into treatment unit you send it here and get small xircon effluent back

[exotic aurora]

are there any pools of infinite sewage in the open world?

[quiet hedge]

dump them back to the source

or bottle them

[storm garnet]

yea, source is a bit far, it's the main aic

i'm against bottles

[graceful otter]

im a genius muhahahahahahaha

[tribal crescent]

our sewage source is ourselves

we will industrialize

[simple vessel]

i was just watching it and i realized, you are not making any components? or did i miss it?

[tribal crescent]

and pollute this world

[simple aspen]

I look at people trying to pipe conduit to test area and be like

these people don't teleport to cut down run distance
ayy caramba

[spring palm]

Anyone knows, how to share BP?

[tribal crescent]

copy code

form someone

cuz you are importing

[quiet hedge]

then dump it to the source place more pipes

[simple vessel]

do remember you can only copy from the same region,

asia to asia or eu to eu

[storm garnet]

run out of building limit

[spring palm]

oh

[simple vessel]

cant do asia to eu and vice versa

[tribal crescent]

can i artifice everything with just xira gear

do i need cuprium gear

[spring palm]

ah, got it

finally found the button to share others or friends

hehehe

[robust grove]

beautiful

[quiet hedge]

you know when I mean bottling it is that so you can use separating unit near the source to dump them out right?

[simple vessel]

mostly xira gear but cuprium gear is required for few of them.

heto gear to just make the main set not to artifice

[tribal crescent]

so i still ned cuprium

zamn

[simple vessel]

yes

[spring palm]

ty for info

[simple vessel]

np

[storm garnet]

i know, i'm against the existence of separating unit

it's my morals

[quiet hedge]

move hetonite production to marker stone outpost ig

and move whatever there to core aic

[storm garnet]

engineer work ethic

i had it like that before, but it used even more building limit in wuling city

i reached 1152 cause of it, so i had to move everything

[quiet hedge]

did you do gardening farming with the watering stuffs?

[storm garnet]

now marker is for xira

no, no farm

[quiet hedge]

building limit is placing pumps outside core AIC areas right?

[storm garnet]

no, that's protocol capacity

building limit is 512 in all wuling city, aic included

[quiet hedge]

[storm garnet]

the 1152 limit is building + belt + pipe btw

[hallow monolith]

i fucking love this

no more 640 - 900 M mind numbing route

[storm garnet]

less bills though

for now

[hallow monolith]

boo hoo 10k bills

im sitting on a surplus of 10 mill rn

[storm garnet]

30k

maybe 20k, i don't remember the exact numbers

i just realized this is going to the right 100% of the time cause the destination is not full

[tepid apex]

is this the only possible route? im planning to build the stuff to move but was not sure if there is another possible destination

[storm garnet]

there are 3 routes

the end of those ziplines are the other npcs

[tepid apex]

ic, thaks for sharing!

[surreal lantern]

what's the max flow rate of big conduit?

[fervent lodge]

4/m

[surreal lantern]

[storm garnet]

s*

[surreal lantern]

so it just a basic 2 x max flow rate of pipe then

[shadow canopy]

U can shorter route by this

[storm garnet]

btw, i just merged the acid with the second line of liquid cuprium and it works, now the expanded only gets the exact acid

[exotic aurora]

yeah, it just saves you 1 click, instead of placing 2 conduits you can place 1 big one... doesn't do much otherwise

[storm garnet]

i just put it wherever, but yea, i have to check that, thanks

[unborn pendant]

does anyone have the zipline tower at the top of monitoring center they can share with me 🥺

[jovial breach]

Asia?

[unborn pendant]

NA

[surreal lantern]

it does save us 2 protocol

[simple vessel]

How did you turn on the zipline route?

[jade hare]

do we know if anyone has made a bp for wuling aic and subpacs yet?

[jovial breach]

Press R while on zipline

[storm garnet]

this?

[quiet hedge]

while on each tower node select its target

[unborn pendant]

yes please

[storm garnet]

6779665874

[surreal lantern]

iirc, dev add some new invisible wall on the rooftop..

[jovial breach]

Pick your poison in #1461542035617091681

[unborn pendant]

sent friend request Edit: I'm Haste

[simple vessel]

So it automatically directs itself there?

[jovial breach]

Not really automatically

But half automatic

[quiet hedge]

you still have to press e when traveling near it

[jovial breach]

[storm garnet]

done

[simple vessel]

Oh

[quiet hedge]

but make you wait less than waiting until you stop at the zip tower

[surreal lantern]

~~i did feedback for auto routing selection, hope dev would implement it ~~

[unborn pendant]

errr it's not showing up on my map, does it take a sec?

[quiet hedge]

better ziplining experiece probably locked behind newer zip upgrade that we don't know whether it will even come in wuling with like farther range etc.

[storm garnet]

you get a private message from me

it has a shared zipline

you need to accept it

[unborn pendant]

right i forgor, ty

[storm garnet]

manifolds are weird, they go from 4/s to 2/s on the displayed speed

i would undestand if decimals made it oscilate 1 number, but 2?

[surreal lantern]

they show actual flow rate i think

[storm garnet]

they are like valve, what is 3?

[surreal lantern]

unlike normal pipe where you have to calculate flow rate manually

mine also fluctuate between 2&3 from 2.5/s rate

[storm garnet]

that's would be the normal thing to happen

like, 3 exists. guess mine forgot that

[keen badge]

good lord what was I even thinking?! 🤣
silver lining, it is narrow, only 15 tiles 🥴
fine, 16 if you count the incoming water pipe 😅

[storm garnet]

it's probably a synchronized use of acid

[lone aspen]

From where u guys get this for heavy xyranite?I will be full of the red material soon

[dreamy jungle]

are you trying to make a symmetrical single forge?

[storm garnet]

just use heto or cuprium parts on the outposts

or craft some buildings

[cosmic lava]

(the buildings are made from cuprium parts)

[keen badge]

done it before, more or less 🙂
but that version relies on the depot for sandleaf powder

[lone aspen]

Which buildings?

[storm garnet]

any that uses cuprium or heto

[lone aspen]

Outpost doesnt accept cuprium

The second

[storm garnet]

on the first

[cosmic lava]

you can make them into cuprium parts (or hetonite if you're at the market stone)

[storm garnet]

but might as well make heto

[lone aspen]

Its already lvl 3

[storm garnet]

and?

[lone aspen]

What is heto?

[storm garnet]

you need bills

[cosmic lava]

hetonite

[storm garnet]

hetonite, it's on the pic

[lone aspen]

How to do it?

[storm garnet]

like any other material in the factory?

[cosmic lava]

have you unlocked the marker stone AIC yet?

[green sleet]

Are yall hitting a steady fluctuation between 10 and 8 sec per Xirc Eff for the waste refiner?

[storm garnet]

i haven't even checked my extra effluent numbers after i set it up tbh

whatever it makes, it's ok

in theory, it should be 7.5 max

[green sleet]

Ah. Yeah thats fair. I just wanted to make sure its in a way i can set it and forget about it

[storm garnet]

but i use some sewage to make effluent for my second heavy xira forge

you can get it faster than 7.5, down to 5 max, if you use more than 1 manifold

[jade hare]

how do i get to the regional transfer

[storm garnet]

but there is not enough sewage

[storm garnet]

it's on the aic building itself

[green sleet]

Oh? Dman guess i gotta add another line to the gw²p. Good to know, thank you

[jade hare]

ty

[storm garnet]

not really worth to set it up atm, since we can't really use it yet, and things might change next patch anyways

we might need the extra sewage in the aic instead for example