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Yup
i'm very tempted to use this to avoid piping marker stone to the main aic or the test area
oh nvm that's what the bottles are for right
I MADE ALL THE PIPES AND ITS NOT EVEN GOOD AT WHAT ITS MADE TO DO
It iant worth itvunless they add a sub pac there
I already do lol
YOURE KIDDING ME
What's the max effluent the purification node can hold before it's full? 500?
IKR I SPENT 30 Mins making conduits just to see the rate
I hate that we can only fit 4 forges in a single sub pac
Now im totally out of space everywhere
I just shoved 10 into the stockade aic
HOW
so 2 skyforge for heavy, the rest 10 for xiranite right ?
THIS GAME SERIOUSLY NEED TO SHOW INFORMATION MORE OFTEN
You can fit 10
WHY CANT THIS GAME SHOW THE LIMIT WHENEVER I BUILD STUFF
you can fit 7 forges with planters in subpac
Just put plants somewhere else
i hope we get a new flower that makes more carbon
i just want sandleaf to stop existing
Good thing the new area has tons of fluffed jincao
whole 1.2 had a lot of uncommon plants in the world
the 240 not wonky, that part perfect
I did not pay attention to the tutorial
What do I do here? 
8 cup refine into sewage just enough for two new purifier
what's that 1 effluent is being used for
so the test area is already out on asia?
you send sewage here and purified into xircon eff
3 sewage input then unlimited xircon eff, but won't ever clogged the xircon eff output whatever happen. that's all
can someone screenshot the purifying shit from above
need to add it to the planner
30 sewage -> 1 eff
@wispy grove This look right?
Total Production:
14.75/min sc battery
12/min heavy xiranite
3.25/min hetonite part
5.5/min yazhen a
18.49/min xiranite
Purification Node:
168.49/min sewage in
5.62/min xircon effluent out
ye we knew
its not a factory area
Hello, can metastorage support 2 dense originium powder output?
what else to get rdl15
fixed facility in world
which is why you'll need to photo mode it probably
Thank you! 
why its 4.49?
is it possible to get cam far enough above to get ss from above?
Oops it's 168.49 sent mb
feels .. difficult
maybe need someone to rip model and get "ss" that way?
i just need a placeholder for now tbh
it's ASS
oh rip
why do i need the sewage inlet if i can just loop it like this
they use custom instancing for factory building models so I'll need to create fake parent gameobject and assemble machine base + machine model separately
i just don't have time to set that entire thing up rn sadly
ah dang, didn't know it was so involved
maybe i should do the scribble again
scribble is pretty peak
what if i make the extra xircon in maker stone with the heto sewage
no, i need to pipe back the effluent from test area
aaaaaaaaaaa
4.49 xircon eff x 0.8 = 3.592 xira
2 sc wb uses 4 forge, so still have leftover 8 forge
Oops, my units were in sewage not xircon
I've corrected it
bruh
Wait a minute... All the way from the base? 
So 19.62/min xiranite?
how much sewage do u input exactly?
Okay we agree
so you region transfer from valley ? the additional ori demand
168.49/min
My spreadsheet scribblings were in odd units, mb
now that is fire
imagine if the game let us use 1 tile belt segments outside the aic
huh ? can we dump sewage here?
i need more sub-pac
5.6 x0.8 = 4.48 xiranite
well, we would still need depot output
whats the current plan so far?
50 from meta
meta storage
another one 
isnt meta 25?
Okay so you confused me and my original was mostly correct
why your xiranite yield is 305.6? 10 forge should be 300 right ?
25 dense ori is 50 normal ori
dense orig = 2 orig or
18.49/min net xiranite produced
isnt the meta quantity also cut in half tho
i think i'll just ignore the purification node and take my paltry 14/min xira
so its still 25
yeah but u get free xircon eff from testing area.
1 xircon eff = 0.8 xiranite
Connecting my sewage from marker stone to testing area with conduits 
for some reason dense ori cost 1 instead of 2
Total Production:
14.75/min sc battery
12/min heavy xiranite
3.25/min hetonite part
5.5/min yazhen a
18.49/min xiranite
Purification Node:
168.49/min sewage in
5.62/min xircon effluent out
thats dumb
yup thats pretty much it
ig its 590 then
tell dev
that's included the sewage from 8 cup refine ? ok got it
how much battery are u using per min?
btw when you refine it to dense oricrust it became 2
wtf are these cursed numbers 
Uhhhhhh
FUCK
WHY
again ask dev not us
then lets just say 3/min
that is this cursed shit
how did you divide cuprium for 3.25 heto part and 5.5 yazhen A?
what to meta transfer now.... dense or fer powder
Just based on ferrium
these mf are killing heto productiom
up to them though
tru
you can even delete your factory
Always dense originium, never ferrium
if you hate having heto
hmm weird, i have 2 pipes connected to manifold each saying 2/s flow but the manifold only says 2/s
is it 2 per or 1 per
holy shi acid in test area
i'm only getting 73,020 stock/hr with ferrium transfers, so yeah ori is just better per usual
how do i fit 7 fots here?
guys where are the delivery locations for the new depot node
acid pool
ones in top right
idk the rest yet
is that sub-pac area? i fit 8 stabilized carbon inside. the fots are in main
hm
what's you guys' power rn
ferrium
4.8
6k
South of the big area
so 4 cupri on heto and 4 on yazhenA
for puri 1 pump for 1 puri or 2 pumps per puri?
Which region and area is this? Usually you have to connect the power starting from the Core AIC or Sub PAC
we can use the blight?
no i mean where do i go to delivery stuff
cause that's not acid
we still make yazhen A?
now this is acceptable
if you don't wanna metatransfer fer powder then yazhenA
make jincao tea instead
its sewage lol
oh lmao I saw the purple-ish color and thought we were adding a new ingredient.
was about to say, damn technology sure has come a long way.
one more still lock for now
NO WAY ALL IN ONE
oh ok thanks
.elasticpeak
I never saw it reaching 5.4k or 5.5k
I think purification node entirely kills precision splitting systems right?
You must use priority systems now
wait so we are genuinely still expected to run a pipe manifold from wherever we make sewage to this new plant
So.. what's the point of this
they didnt add any better way
I mean if neatness is the play - sure
any calc for 14.9 sc, 3 yazhenA, 3 heto part
but it feels unnecessary?
It's 2 seawage/s.. it cost 0 energy buy just long pipes
hmm
and u have to run like.. 4 of these long pipes?
hello guys i got a question, is it even remotely profitable to keep doing hetonite instead of going back to the old yazhen syringes?
I can't get my sewage from Marker Stone to my Purification Area
This underground pipe system is really easy yo
Is it like area locked ๐ญ
hes capped on facilities
Technically you are expected to run 1.5 manifolds because it has 3 input pipes. But that's a problem for a future you.
nah, i'm capped
It's the same, meta is now to run 3.25/min hetonite parts and 5.5/min yazhen a
Facility limit
if you want to save power
thanks
How much is it even like.. 10 power?
so if im fine with power, then the Purification Area is pointless
Ffs, no protocol limit upgrade. I have to tear down ziplines to run a conduit
Hello experts, so with +4 forges, are we now making 12/m hxira?
each water treatment is 50 power
are you mixing up your info
its max heto with C or part heto,part A
his info
we are so back
Oops, meant yazhen a
Did they update it or was this always the case
it was always 50
Yazhen c has been dead for a while, mb
lmao
yazhen c for meta ferrium
Max hetonite is dead now
hmm
yeah,thats the part A,part heto i mentioned
Also problem. You can't just merge aton of sweage and expect it to all travel i think?
Meta ferrium is worse though
i see 0 C in this one
Pipes has limit
you get to keep max heto tho
Making hetonite with ferrium isn't more valuable than making yazhen c with ferrium
my good ness i cant slack my deliveries
pipe is 2/s
the mani conduit is 4/s
but they have 2 pipes so
The pirp one?
2 pipes that have the same input tho?
You can abuse the teleports to make use of the 200m range of the conduits
yes
where did you get 590 cancer rock?
i mean isnt the point to get effluent back
What? i thought it breaks??
540 yield +50 meta transfer
teleport doesn't break it
fair
I mean
you currently get 0.2333334 back
Is it? I thought they patched it...
Ok but why
there is a vid way above
What is this number?
I don't have any other use for the sewage in marker stone...
I don't understand why we are putting so much effort into sewage treatment when there is a Very Large Rift right there that we could just dump it in.
And I don't wanna send acid to my Wuling AIC
you ever tried dumping stuff into a volcano?
you really don't want to
Have you tried just microing the cuprium production to where Its optimal
reminds me of people making cooked food from volcano rocks
Maybe sweage opens big rift ๐ฅ
All I'm saying is that if we piped all our sewage into the rift, maybe they would close it on the other side.
"microing", that's a new word I haven't seen before...
oh no
where are you guys moving this to?
you just thinking of turning the rift into trash dumpsite
So, we have to pipe the sewage from marker stone/wuling, all the way to purification station? 
i can't max heto without meta ferrium
I've learnt a thing or few about Factorio: Pollution attracts bug
purification maybe?
so they added something nobody is actually gonna use huh

if you ignore the sewage purification you lose just 0.4% of stock production
btw how much sewage lines a sewage inlet in purification can sustain ? 8 building ?
Tbh, since we maxed out the use of H. Xiranite, the only other use for it is now monetary for the bases...
what can i do with 0.2(3) xircon effluent anyway
can you even make 3.25/min heto? .25 needs 10 cuprium/min
a full pipie
so 4
Why would that be a problem?
thats true
any idea what to do with effluent from the new area? clueless
bru no way this is useless
maybe we havent figured it out
useful for battery or hxira prod
oh 
Why is there a pool of acid here in the testing area? Like they were expecting us to build here in this new area or something. But there's no new sub pac or anything to use for
Purification node increases your production by the equivalent of 732 stock bills per hour
anyone else UI for regional transfer broken?
if i go full heto i have to meta ferrium right

Wym? It's about 1%
The fkin' +4 forges got me in shambles
o u can do that?
You don't go full hetonite because meta ferrium is worse
true
yeah on maxed upgrade
so ig we just make more curpium parts?
ic
We make 5.5/min yazhen a
ewwww
im kinda mad about the purification thingy lol
y*zhen
its basically useless aside from saving up some power
it's 74,970 stock/hr instead of 75,240 stock/hr. so 0.4% loss
oh wait
wait i need to do the math..
74508, not 74970
each refinery is 0.5/s sewage correct ?
Guys i got a question is there any way to remove precipitation acid without having to pull it out to the pond again? no acid treatment unit?
Shove it in a tank, remove the tank
my spreadsheet says 74,970 with 14/min Xira production, but i'll double check
its for my hetonite factory i cant manually do that all the time it has to go by itself :((
my power line for new map
I'm accounting for power as well, which is 63% of the savings
mine 13x23, you can adjust to connect from the new cuprium prod (remove stash)
oh my god
344/350
30 sewage for 1 effluent
do we produce 2 heavy?
Then feed it back into the hetonite
i'm taking out 3/min SCW for power
bruv
Optimally all power is just a cost in batteries
how do we use the extra xira?
just thought on that i have a small extra need of it, just rerouted it, thanks!
how many ziplines are you guys using rn
4 for 1 spot
Dang u got any that is independent?
hm
i do
too far ๐ฅ
saving it for a rainy day for now
30x14
so we can only 10+2 heavy at the end...
skill issue
amethyst bottle is goated 
I got a 24x19 rn
yea it's still an issue 
ah yeah if you're doing PWM power you would save a bit more by not needing the treatment plants. i don't bother with that so i hadn't included that
either way, it's still a small amount
Fuck me man I need a way to cram 10 forges inside the main aic
yeah ik that
both 6/min
whats that?
single xira?
i just want high altitude
All the new delivery locations are downright crazy
Yea just single
Thanks, buddy, I used the one below
so with latest 2 cuprium nodes and 2 ori nodes, we can only add 1 more SC battery production right?
behold
the powder solution
I got 18x23 independent xiranite with extra sandleaf powder line out
Anyone with lvl 3 remediation can tell me how much it gives after OP boost?
OP boost?
23k
think he means operator boost
How tf can u have lvl 3 outpost when event sold everything
if you didnt stockpile gourds
cuz i aint stock gourds lol

no tower defense boosts ig

I FORGOT WE CANT USE BELTS
Wtf is this magic
Does this work and is there a better way to produce 13.75/min?
whatre we trying to do
Get a belt with 13.75/min
why 13.75
For xircon
josh would've had a field day if we could put belts outside aic
how 1.75more
I turn on and off the water treatment for the effluent from purifier maybe work with pipes of the effluent?
1.75?
I'm trying to get 10+3.75
are we fr
you got 4 inert from 2 sc wuling
yall are crazy
Wym? We need 73.75/min xircon so one machine needs to produce 13.75/min
why not 12+1.75
How would you get that?
whatre we talking abt again
lol
Producing a belt with 13.75/min items on it
what for
Xircon.........
whats the belt moving
Ferrium?
why did my wuling city nodes got purity increase
Are we dead ass transfering xircon liq?
Or xircon, it doesn't matter
how many ferrium/min are we moving
Why do all this
Just have an overload control
Ffs, 13.75/min as I've said a dozen times
meta transfer max 1500 per hour, or am i missing something ? to make up the 590 ori in wuling

meta is 25,how tf you got 13.75
That just shifts the limiter somewhere else, you still need it
Huh yea its called item control port
We need 73.75/min xircon so one machine needs to produce 13.75/min
Those do not limit rate
The devs thought it was funny
so you want to make 13.75xircon
ic
I'm not 100% sure mine works is the problem, I never read up on belt timings
I swear that I saw a crucible in that place in the presentation, but I guess I was just delusional...
is there even enough ferrium for 13.75xircon?
do we need all purification nodes? need so much money
max meta transfer 1500/hr, do manually transfer them on dijiang ?
so 30 ferri gets 30 xircon.
Yes
1500/hr is 25/min, thats 50 reg orig/min
whatre you gonna do with the remaining 11.25ferri
I don't think a new fac is needed
i go eepy for now
until the situation calls for it
we dont
good night Aorta
Make hetonite parts, 3.25/min
for now ye
not even sure how we get enough effluent
anyone has a 7 FOTS subpac bp?
To waste em all cleaning all the filth..

oh you're not transferring ori but the dense ori
yes
Hmm ok so i still have about 10/min leftover xiranite
thats 10 + 7.5 ?
Looks good and likely better than my disaster, ty
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494206812147417188
This one me like.
Yes? How else would you get enough
what is the ideal output right now?
what do we do with the inert
Only 5.62/min effluent is not from xiranite, all of the rest is
Inert is also from xiranite??
why is it either 1.. i waste a fots for a miniscule of effluent or 2 i clog a fots because of the extra effluence

my goldfish brain cant handle either
How are you clogging it?
i might doing this wrong (correct me pls) is that im using 1 fots for the SIRcon to create heavy
that's 1
the other is straight xyranite > effluence > heavy
but i also recycle 2 inert in the process

ah the purification area is a massive scam
so on theory.. the 2 crucibles wont be running at full efficiency
we got extra originium??
I would just run 4 effluent crucibles that feed 2 fots and 3 xircon crucibles
2.75 sc from 60 origi n meta dense?
about this current update upgrade level
marker stone camp LV 2 -> 3
new depot node LV 3
new purification node LV 4
Sky forge limit 8 -> 12
anything else?
Yes
Guys how does the purification facility works? Like how to get sewage water and so on

Stock in jing valley lvl4
thank
how much xircon efflent produce from test area???
5.62/min
ty
I just dumped 8 million wuling creds for sanity permits earlier today 
5.62/second you mean?
No
No
im trying to figure out why this shit isnt transferring 4/s
output
let me update
about this current update upgrade level
marker stone camp LV 2 -> 3
Jingyu valley depot LV3 -> 4
new depot node LV 3
new purification node LV 4
Sky forge limit 8 -> 12
anything else?
What do those numbers even mean? I never understood what the "flow rate" number represents
we can max out the facility on day one??? in test area?
oh ye i found the issue, one of the other output is clogged for some reason
1/s produced from a water pump, a pipe can holds as much as 2/s of flow
U just need like 2-3M bills
I mean more fundamentally. If it says 3/s, what time period is that over?
Fluid is a discrete thing, so there's no instantaneous flow rate for it
@brittle sedge i need help !!! Pipe priority
tell me your problem
This also counts the stock 4 new depot
i want the purification to take priority over the crucibles
wtf do you do with the xircon effluence on the new map?
do you just connect it to your base since theres no hub to craft stuff here?
Not really possible tbh
Merge it into your existing effluent line
I thought it transfer instantly the moment you connected, but the pipe itself only hold as much as 2/s
Just use a converger?
One converger, that's it
It does but it will back up eventually
So?
so piping everything all the way to the base yeah?
So everything stops
It'll do so with perfect efficiency
what is the sewage for?
It'll keep running, just at exactly the speed there is demand for
Yup
Might be mistaking it with acid, mb
god damn thats a long ass line
anyone got the production graph for new update
why didnt they just put an AIC in this map 
HAVE we gotten our 9th forge in the sky yet?
There might be a new AIC beside it next patch
12th 
its 12 now after doing quest and upgrading with 2 points
huh-
alright i guess that's it imma wait a bit for numbers to stabilize
wdym by 2 pts?
actually @brittle sedge wait a bit ... i might overcomplicating things
what's the depot cap
wuling aic index
maybe smth like this
seems like 82k
thankies i'll give this a try
wtf am i supposed to do with 2 more originium nodes?
place the converger next to the forge last to make sure priority works
few more batteries ig?
DO we just progress the main story line?
still kinda confused is the point of purifying sewage water from the new map just to get xircon effluence??
its more of a side quest but ye
or am I missing something
We are not going twice to bring sewage there
about new sewage water purification, how do we transfer them to new place
is there a infinite sewage spot or we have to make sewage water our self?
what does last xiranite mean , is it extra into depot?
is it a yellow green or blue?
yellow
really...
OH but a sub thing ok
"spring's return"
Yes. I wouldn't bother selling it, use it for components
So we manually connect from our pac to there?
sounds like a major PitA to even try and set up those number, i'll think i'll just waste it on LC battery
how many conduits do you guys use to connect the pur node to main aic
How much sewage we need to transfer to the test area???
are there new sub pac in the new region?
6 pairs
who has production calcs
i'm using normal conduit is that fine
That's just 2/s max
i think all of em?
Damn
bruh...
lmao
oh wait.. @brittle sedge im an idiot.. doing so would clog the refineries
then switch the spliter to the other side
nah i meant like batt ratio etc
we cant build factory on test area. how do we use the purification nodes?
so we can send max 6/s in? but 60/min xircon deletes 0.6/s, 240 cuprium creates 4.5/s? so there's 3.9/s sewage to go around? but ig there's more sewage saved from getting eff back..... I need to actually write things down to math
the entire idea is bad now that i think about it since its already a balance from the refinery to the fots. And im jamming in extra effluence so ofc it would clog
also purification nodes are useless in test area
udh the 512 limit in main AIC annoys me 
devs think that's funny
definitely
how many heavy forges are you running
I spend all my currency on buying all 4
Foul play.. Not pipe.. 
2
ended up using them for 1 hour and that's it
since the sewage is not infinite there, we can't keep using them
bought 3 and wonder why i was buying them
is this what ppl r running
11/3 lcw?
i run with yazhen a. i cant survive without meds
ye now we get more transfers
i assume its just to make use of whatever og we got now
yeah
for xircon effluence 
i think i used 5 conduit pairs idk 
hmm ig ill just make a 6/min heto and then be done with it
devfinitely trolling with ts
lowkey you might as well just make syr a so you dont have to deal with acid
that's the easiest, we have too much to sell anyways
and just make syr c with the 30/min ferr
8 cupium is 4/s sewage
1 hetonite is 0.5/s
So total 4.5/s sewage
12 sc and 6 heavy uses 1/s
6 heavy alone uses 0.5/s but that's not accounted for recycle inert
hello, do purification node provide unlimited supply of xircon efluent or not?
no
it is a one time thing so far
yk I'm just not going to bother with the funny ratios this time around....
2/s inert is 0.5/s effluent right
rs
we make way too much product and my depot is full
ahhh thanks
unless you are willing to bring all your sewage from Main AIC to test area
yeah, i brought mine ๐
11 forges
Yes why not
congrats on your 5 effluent per min
I'll do it for the power savings if I can afford the protocol
idc about the effluent tbh
I don't think anyone knows how much product we need yet
my depot is too full
6 sewage/s btw
Just for a drop of effluent every once in a while..
30:1...
and i used to think 4:1 was bad...
What
ig when we get more curpium
We don't have 6/s sewage
which is in 6 months ig
Nowhere near that. Currently we can send 168.49/min to purification node
4.5/s max no matter how I think about it, and that's without making any effluent
the quest's scene accidentally show me my noodle pipeline, first second saw it i was like "wtf is this place "๐คฃ
๐ญ Tf am i missing

i mean, i got the sewage from nearby quest then transfer the xircon to aic
there will be 2 more ๐คฉ
lmao
2.7/s after costs
๐ ๐ FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
when we get high purity cuprium
surely
inst marker max lvl 2?
Anyone have blueprints max ? Please gimme 
wait for it
Ok rn we should be able to have at least 3/s excess sewage, so that's 6/min effluent, which is 0.1/s ๐
this will take 6 years
It's like what 3 days?
2.8/s
AIGHT BETTER
RDM 25 trust
what the heck
nice
my guy is insane
So with 2 more cuprium and originium nodes, what can we make?
bro chill
You mean 2.7/s usage? Excess sewage It can't be less than 3/s
heto max eff 
wait where the pipe going? 
anyone pulled to jingyu? my core aic is full ๐
main aic trust bro
EZZZZZZZZZZZ
Excess. 168.49/min to be exact is sent to purification node
what bro...
SWEET flying pipe 
Btw what's the max amount of hxira we can make currently? Putting all 12 forges to work
9/m?
12

use outlet avoid making map ugly
Outlet takes precious protocol capacity
btw @marble yarrow we can use 1pump to sustain all hydro mining on test site map right ?
what does 6 carbon^2 translate to in terms of yazhen and sandleaf
Pretty chill mission 
think so
tho well
use pipe to reduce protocol capacity 
what the max aic yield?
you have to redo it when purity is increased
The new Xircon from the new area can power the 2nd heavy xira chain?
no
for a 12/m heavy xira
We have new xircon?
I think even pipe can reach from one side to another ๐ค
(but still can't check that)
just add 1 pump more here and we done
bro doing allat for 10 power
its ok i have used more pipe logistics in other paths so i can use conduit here
any narrower connection?
Can the effluent at the purification node even do anything?
It can give you some more xiranite for components
Or am I gonna be piping it all the way from test area into wuling aic?
lol
Hmm so afaik, you have 4.5/s sewage yield, 12 sc + 6 heavy is 1/s usage, then for the other 6/min heavy you use recycled effluent from both inert and sewage idk the math but it should be less than 0.46/s 
@midnight harness I found an AFK box (forgot this was AIC chat but well.. automation ig)
Is it worth putting all my sewage water from all my PACS to the test area purification area then back to my PACS again?
why is molding unit there
256.25/min total production. 87.76/min total consumption. Hence 168.49/min to purification node
ok without sewage conversion i managed to get a relatively clean amount, is this right?
dunno how to handle the purification node but that's for future me to die solving
Bigger hit box due to foundation
And well the shape of the building is wider than most
We cannot achieve 270/min production due to producing 14.75/min batteries
Example: I just slided into this and i'm literally stuck unless camera mode ๐ญ
holy lmao
okay I don't get it
we wanna overtreat the treatment facility to make zircon production worth it?
bp, arigato
you can connect power line, but not sure about pipe, how are you going to connect them? walk around?
I dont get this, what does sc have to do with 4.5/s sewage prod
yes just walk around, cuz no distance limit during placement
Batteries consume ferrium, so we don't have enough to produce 30/min hetonite and thus 30/min sewage from hetonite
change 1 reactor crucible to extended to do double duty of making heto like this?
my pipe is a mess tbh 
long walk :)
lol. hope it work
yes it works
hmm can we skip acid entirely 
placed all 4 now
Can u ride the raft while piping?
(don't forget to kill enemies on the way)
I don't think so
Damn this game is literally unplayable
so how many pipe do we need? for sewage water
alot of things cancel piping.
1 pump can sustain 3 high purity mines right?
Yes
sadly no
Rule of thumb, just use 1 pump for 3 mines, no matter the purity
If u don't wanna bother with repiping
Its kinda like a bridge.. 
There's a gap between the 3 pipes and the one rightmost pipe
And my OCD doesn't like it
Is this gud? (The spare ori is just making the triangle thingy for gears)
XD
So test area sewage is not infinite/no regen? We also need to connect sewage from base to here?
:((((
yes
Why not just
Connect conduit and tp like power lines
can someone help me do some math
Conduit costs protocol
Tru ig
less interesting :)
and as I did that before I want more pipes now :)
and yes, also a reason
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
game when 2 items are misaligned by 0.000000000001pixels
this is so stupid
like I even removed all turrets and farm but still 334/350
wuling depot doesn't level up right?
WTF IS THIS
ITS FLAT
THIS
IS A WORKING pipe
i see nothing wrong
HOW
THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE
does purification node in the area with no aic make sense 
so, the effluent just conduit it to main aic area or something?
no?
Does anyone got a map with all the delivery location in test area?
everything makes no sense 
who tf is placing a purification node in the middle of nowhere
help me out. curently our sewage sources are 8 lines of cuprium and 1 from the hetonite producer. right?
anyone has a 3 forge layout 
solo fat xira or 3xira
no, just 3 xira
how much cuprium we have now? at /m
240
Imagine taking sewage from aic to the recycle thingy and they add a sewage pool next patch
it can't be that bad, right?
240 cuprium 540 orig right
So we have to move 6x30/m to the new test area to convert it to Xircon effluent?
looking at the unused acid pool yeah we not transfering devs trolling
168.49/min. Optimal production is not 270/min sewage
wat?
does anyone have a 3 forge layout
90 xir/min
i got a 2 thats modifiable if you know how
can i have it
gimme a sec
oh wait i'm asia
256.25/min total production. 87.76/min total consumption. Hence 168.49/min to purification node
thanks a LOT!
na/eu still needs to wait for 7 hours, right?
87.76 on where?
so am i
60 go to the xircon for the original 12/m batery, and the other 27?
Xircon and heavy xiranite
i got the 3 forges layout, i'm ok now
14.75/min batteries, 12/min heavy xiranite
how much sewage do we need to move to the test area?
My two 3k Battery Overflows filled up while I was asleep and my entire factory shut down while I was away
168.49/min
168.49/min to purification node
since you need to use sewage for the xircon
that's how many lines?
you think its possible to buy out depots without recycling any inert and just treatment planting it
make effluent from xira fresh
should 1 manifold and 1 inlet outlet?
1.4 pipes
Yes, node yields 732/hr stock bills of value
or is one manifold enough because somehow I'm not getting max yield
TantTang outpost has combat in it when raised to Lv4?
It's optimal ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
prolly just gonna do that cbf with all of the devs bullshit
Just the usual Defense right?
managed to connect one from main PAC. Its easier when using conduit manifolds
I dunno im asking
What are you using it for
nah
Why is the factory event still active?
its a closer acid source when it crosses over wuling city boundary
It doesnt go to 4 at least not right now, I havent done the latest stuff that got added today though, so maybe when I complete that something will change
Exchanging whatever you have left
Acid in wuling....
so i reduce pipe logistic usage vs importing it from the bottom of wuling city
I logged in thinking I had 10 minutes to do the Factory Event and it was over already so I had like 600k in my mailbox for what it auto sold
That's lvl3 max rn, the cardiac outpost is the one that got lvl3
what they trade at lvl 3
It did? I must need to progress
For asia yes
Pretty sure this story is the new one that released today, so I might need to progress for the things to be visible
I hope the expansion is retroactive, I just dumped my Batteries in for money because I was maxed out on Batteries
how does the production look like?
luksek
LET ME IN TEST AREAAAAAAA
nothing changed much....
more fractions to consider


Have we not gotten the update on America's servers?
so many bridges
yes, still no :(
these numbers..
How to do the unstuck trick again?
uwo poggies
that could have been a lr
xD
Welcome to being optimal
does ferrium enough or throttled?
i'd recommend posting gacha pull images in this channel
That uses exactly 90/min ferrium
these numbers are absolutely cursed
It's technically ferrium limited
smh
@shell hinge what if i do ferrium metatransfer or that's already counted?
is this actuall yit?
Dense originium meta is already included

yes
Ferrium meta is still worse
so close, yet so far
I almost wish the next region doesnt have fluids, at least involved in power production, its so rough that having too many batteries can stop an entire massive branch of the factory
What?
I will eventually run lower when the pool gets drained
which doesn't look like a while
Wish granted. Next region has gasses.

That's called bad factory design
ok so im thinking, if there's no excess ferrium to make extra sc, would making lc a good move to keep the 30/min hetonite
I mean I could just expand my power capacity by using more of them
Only cuprium product filling depot can shut down your factory, which takes longer than the entire patch
finally done
A well designed factory can handle the depot filling up on batteries
this the output now?
All my Wuling Power comse from just 2
No, the value of the hetonite is absurdly low
How long do i have to wait for the test area to unlock
havent connected to the test area yet..
but will try to get higher than 12 scw/min
@daring rapids I never had to redesign my factory
so what's the heto prod should be if not 30/min
its modular
16.25
My setup currently uses the Sewage from Cuprium in Battery Production and the Inert Xircon Effluent from the Batteries is used in Heavy Xiranite which is part of that same section of factory, so if Cuprium clogs or the Batteries clog, both shutdown
I'm too lazy to put new stuff in now
what else are you using the cuprium for though

anything besides the new area gain extra level cap?
Yazhen a
oh that's the same value regardless
well i will just make it 15/min for easier math
and... find a use for this area...
So hetonite stays the same as it was pre-update and we make yazhen A with the extra instead?
I guess less power usage for yazhen A
not the same, it's less
do i use 0.5 sewage to make effluent for 2nd hxira
you can also choose to keep running full heto and import ferri instead
it earns slightly less tho
Don't use inert effluent reprocessing for heavy xiranite
The non inert is getting turned to Xircon though
do we have excess xir when max production
is this from power savings or something? because hetonite part should equal yazhen syringe A + C from a materials basis
Simply merge all effluent then use that to produce all outputs
haven't try to do something with new map, just making towers / zipline / finishing chest and orb.
12/m heavy, 6/m het part, 12/m sc
got extra 30/m xiranite and 30/m cube.... wonder if should go slow lc with the extra
Yes, 18.49/min
oh that's good
because i'll make xir eff at home instead of getting to the *** node
All the Effluent is being used in the process
Merge in the effluent from the purifier
OK I'm missing something. What am I supposed to do with this xircon effluent from the new area? Pipe it 3km to an AIC area?
Yes, main aic is best
Yes.
New Area => Marker Stone ?
Bugger that. I'll just leave it.
@subtle finch do u still have ur old cupri 240/min bp?
its on the other side of the world
don't forget also piping the sewage all the way over to test area too ๐
New Area = Test Area. Which is available in Asia and will be available for NA/EU in 7ish hours.
Is that really what it's called?๐คฃ
nice scenery
What the heck is this
Yep. Not confusing at all.
i believe this is a pipe cult
what's the benefit of moving xircon effluent to aic area. i dont read tutorial 

See now whenever people ask for a test area the devs can say you already have one.
actually, you don't have to do that
@marble yarrow how did you have the resolves to pipe this......
732/hr stock bills of value

Having pipe and conduit nightmares for 3 days.


