aic-factory

[small creek]

You said dont resist

Im only following orders

[daring rapids]

it's still better than copium clog

[lofty lodge]

.tangtang2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1473055467092709655/117134493cfa4506.png?ex=6994d14f&is=69937fcf&hm=1e6a9ff7db5526ea0e479813be9b10d9312711146541ae361088402fdd1131b1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=1080

[ancient charm]

ggs

[daring rapids]

worst case scenario I just have full stack of hxira and xira

[valid gazelle]

Wait wait..

No this isn't how you're supposed to play the game

[small creek]

I have lost the ability to resist

The restraints are too rigid and the clues approach imminently

[ancient charm]

You're supposed to say No one is gonna hear your screams

[tacit quarry]

my production, I still has a lot of DOP in extra stash in map, that why production exceed normal rate

[valid gazelle]

Someone help me...

[valid gazelle]

Nooooo

[thick otter]

Gourd event end so i need to change the factory setup again?

[upper fiber]

up to u

wait tomorrow for me

[valid gazelle]

That was the gourd production lines

[dreamy jungle]

[valid gazelle]

Fruit ~

[shadow void]

FruitFruit

[valid gazelle]

Would you want some clues

[hoary crag]

[dreamy jungle]

[vale topaz]

how you ended up with 20 anyway

[shadow void]

i got screwed outta Berries and Arsenal Tickets

[valid gazelle]

Last Rite was such a great help

[dreamy jungle]

Luckily the randoms in my friend list dont spam 7 too much

[fathom glade]

a very happy factory

[valid gazelle]

Wait there's another fruit

Fruit V2

[mystic glen]

a friend spamming clue 7 is better than a friend not sending any at all

...but last rite in clue room is still a sin

[valid gazelle]

[dreamy jungle]

[fathom glade]

My old account was whatthefruits, lost my yahoo email so i used fruitsv2

that is a ridiculous coincidence tho ngl

[brittle sedge]

yahoo? havent heard that for decades

[dreamy jungle]

I also lost my old acc

[fathom glade]

lmao hence why i lsot it

[daring rapids]

[craggy oyster]

the test area is tmr right? or is it in 2h?

[fathom glade]

it wanted 2fa, i moved out of singapore to like 5 different countries so that number was lost to time

[ancient charm]

oh fuck ggs enemy

[shadow void]

ggs

[upper fiber]

no yazhenA but 18 heto?

[mystic glen]

not a fan of battery power?

[fathom glade]

ah there is yazhen A

[ancient charm]

too troublesome when you have 15 turrets

[fathom glade]

but i'm producing at a very low amount

[mystic glen]

it lasts forever tho

[fathom glade]

the extra cuprium parts is only just to make like cuprium components

[shadow void]

how so, its just 1 stack per

[mystic glen]

and facility limit in wuling is a bitch

[fathom glade]

0.5/min cuprium, xiranite and 1.5/min hetonite components

[ancient charm]

15 stacks

[fathom glade]

i'm a big fan of bleed feed

[daring rapids]

@valid gazelle

[foggy ermine]

componment too much

[vital narwhal]

uid leaked

[fathom glade]

doesn't matter, i still outstrip bill generation (outside palmtop)

[mystic glen]

I've filled mine with HC valley bats and I've yet to replenish a stack since I put it up

[daring rapids]

it was leaked longs ago

[vital narwhal]

[foggy ermine]

like bomb i stopped the production long ago

[valid gazelle]

[fathom glade]

oh yeah i havent artificed/made new gear since like release of cuprium gear

so tehre's that

[vale topaz]

damn, now we need to be careful when doing screenshot unless our uid tracked for clue 7 dump

[fathom glade]

I'm very tempted to produce more bombs

[craggy oyster]

if u dont accept their friend request how they gonna ssend u

[dreamy jungle]

Can randoms still add me even though my list is full or did they actively search for me?

[foggy ermine]

can random right?

[daring rapids]

[sonic summit]

rainbow bottle (cuprium and heto not included)

[spring elm]

Im impressed you were able to get the Filling Unit to do that.

[spring elm]

I have 64 but most of them stopped playing 30+days ago

[sonic summit]

worse, its 2 filling unit tbh i just just use series of spliter and converger

[copper geyser]

uh, do you guys have like, a shared blueprint that basically covers your whole aic factory in valley IV and so that it matches with everything that your factory needs to make for valley iv creds

[river wadi]

just place 3 hc valley battery lines and 3 buck capsule a lines

[spring elm]

I dont really care about being 7 dumped, as a matter of fact many of my active friends need it and I only have a few to give out.

[distant sphinx]

blueprints have a size limit so it is afew blueprints but yes.

[storm garnet]

did the 14m copium work?

[brittle sedge]

no

[storm garnet]

figures

then i'll go to bed without checking the game

gotta time travel to the future to get closer to the aic update

[keen river]

there should be plenty in #1461542035617091681 , just find the one you like and works on your server

[brittle sedge]

the amount of ppl coming here asking to be spoonfed is too high

[dreamy jungle]

Do ppl not know about the bp forum?

[craggy oyster]

that what i kinda confused about too, the BP right below this channel too.

or do ppl go there but then get overwhelmed by how many it is and just go here to ask for a quick bp code?

[valid gazelle]

I don't

[brittle sedge]

or they dont understand anything and cant be bother

[pulsar cypress]

°-°)

[vapid dock]

man no free bills out of thin air

[pulsar cypress]

Bp channel : search - use - failed - search - use - failed - repeat - stress

Aic channel : ask - use - failed - terror the one giving until it worked - satisfied

[river wadi]

So did the auto gourd exchange deplete outpost bills or not

[fallen sigil]

I assume the blueprints channel is hidden?

[vapid dock]

depletes outpost bills

[valid gazelle]

Its not..

[fallen sigil]

[valid gazelle]

It's right below this channel is it not ?

[fallen sigil]

People have to follow it

[pulsar cypress]

Its hidden yess.. None can see it..
XD

[tame sedge]

What a silly place

[fallen sigil]

I don't see it lol

I do know it exists

Probably because I'm not following the channel

[vale topaz]

well, go back to id:customize and enable it

[fallen sigil]

[pulsar cypress]

Its just... Ur refuse to see it..
XD

[brittle sedge]

i dont see an option for it specifically

how did we get access to it lol

[fleet wing]

id:browse

[brittle sedge]

i dont remember looking at that screen lmao

[fleet wing]

certain channels aren't shown to some new and existing members

[brittle sedge]

[fleet wing]

the majority of participants in #1461542035617091681 were redirected there, or selected their channels manually in id:customize/id:browse, if they don't have this server option checked (it's disabled by default too)

[pastel orbit]

I wish we could get another hour of AIC event

[brittle sedge]

couldnt get the trimmed medal?

[pastel orbit]

yeah cuz i realized that you have to do quest 2 days before end

[unreal laurel]

whens update for asia?

[pastel orbit]

i literally unbottle xiranate that i had randomly stocked

[brittle sedge]

in 12hrs

[mystic glen]

(clear counted as 8 volleys)

HC Valley Bat

• 1 = 337 shots ~ 42 clears
• 50 = 16875 shots ~ 2109 clears

SC Wuling Bat

• 1 = 950 shots ~ 118 clears
• 50 = 47500 shots ~ 5937 clears

VS running on net power.
20W per turret means you consume on average 0.009375 SC Wuling bats per minute per turret.
Which means that in an hour and 47 minutes you will have consumed a single bat per turret.

So on net power a single bat lasts you 1 hour and 47 minutes of constant firing.
While on battery power a single bat lasts you 337 shots, which is 2 hours and 7 minutes of constant firing.

Conclusion

• Battery power uses less protocol capacity
• Battery power is at least 19% more efficient than net power
• If you farm for an hour each day and don't turn off your turrets, Battery power is 1850% more efficient than net power.

So there is imo objectively not a single reason to not use battery power, you are throwing away batteries running it on net power.
Even if you are super diligent and only turn the turrets on when you are actually using them, batteries are still more efficient.

[unreal laurel]

just break the connecting pylon when youre done

[mystic glen]

slightly surprised that battery power is straight up more efficient, no matter how much you turn your turrents on or off

[unreal laurel]

even better solution

[pastel orbit]

manual labor saves power

[ancient charm]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[mystic glen]

routing power more labour tbh

a single stack will probs last longer than I'll play this game

[meager stream]

.cantread

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1475997022615113900/cantread.gif?ex=699f84d8&is=699e3358&hm=f283e9f64e009c1dbd4556362116e277bbaaf6f50e83895e5c641e76003299d2&=&width=1080&height=728

[pastel orbit]

yeah prob

[mystic glen]

I'm not clearing any allevium 5937 times lmao

[bright zodiac]

@ancient charm tldr, SCv4battery could last you 1year of farming, even more logically bcs u usually wont spend so much on single area repetitively

[unreal laurel]

is this enough tcreds?

im trying to own the rights to wuling city

[bright zodiac]

i used to have 9M, how cpuld u

[pastel orbit]

i have 3 fully built teams so i have negative tcreds lol

[unreal laurel]

?

[ancient charm]

you need 88B

[unreal laurel]

aint no way wuling is worth that much

[ancient charm]

ZFY is worth that much

[bright zodiac]

1 character only need 1.5M - 2M max

[mystic glen]

@ancient charm anyway, totaly fine to run it on net power. But just wanted to make sure you know running it on bats is more efficient while imo also being more convenient. And handy to know for the future too since sooner or later we all run into the protocol capacity limit and running bat power saves you a bit there.

[pastel orbit]

pls gib 2M

[unreal laurel]

looks like i dont have enough tcreds

[bright zodiac]

i also have 9M tcreds and 126000 oroberyl

still..
you have more👌👍

[unreal laurel]

we saving for someone special fr

[bright zodiac]

nooooo, i absolutely know

WE ARE the type that hoard 99 megaelixir and never use it even the world is ending

[meager stream]

m-mommy mifu?

[unreal laurel]

indeed

[bright zodiac]

🤝

[mystic glen]

I'm at 12M tcreds at the moment, I'll probs use some soon tho, just putting off leveling some chars as I haven't felt the need for it yet

[unreal laurel]

im gonna save so much oroberyl that ill be advised to hide my uid

[brittle sedge]

did you post any ss? if so you are no longer safe

[mystic glen]

we are why sanity boosters have an expiration date, else you know those would get stacked instead

[unreal laurel]

i doubt someone will waste time lookinh

[brittle sedge]

youll never know

[meager stream]

Dev HG: hmm you had many oroberyl yaa, okay settled to super high pity

[bright zodiac]

i use all sanity pot rhat has expiration time

never ever use the one without one

[unreal laurel]

ill know the culprit is someone on dc cause thats the only place where i send stuff

wont be hard to track

[crude nebula]

"save for sanity event" moments

[mystic glen]

saw a post a few weeks ago of someone claiming that buying origeometry gave you better pitty...

[crude nebula]

i do the same when the first sanity event came

[bright zodiac]

actually, so long as its not expiring, not gonna use it

[crude nebula]

who said this?

[unreal laurel]

2months 3 weeks 6days 21hrs ago?

[limpid pawn]

does anyone have 20/m belt image

[crude nebula]

yes maybe i forgot when the first event came

[unreal laurel]

im just guessing fr

[crude nebula]

450 pulls for p5 Fangyi, i'm suffering

[mystic glen]

some dude on reddit, his thesis was that he as a f2p had worse pulls than streamers spending origeometry, thus hypergryp tuned pull rates down if you didn't buy origeometry

[unreal laurel]

i wouldnt know,i never pulled

[crude nebula]

nah his account just bad luck

i read somewhere in reddit too, 480 is average p5 Fangyi

[unreal laurel]

i dont even own 480pulls...

yall are whales

[crude nebula]

so i'm below average (?)

[limpid pawn]

guys, does anyone have 20/m belt

image

[mystic glen]

a single splitter?

[crude nebula]

just for this occation, not everytime

[meager stream]

120pulls = 60k oro

[limpid pawn]

its not that simple

[mystic glen]

split in 3, take 2, return 1?

[bright zodiac]

yeah the easiest turn off brain is

1 splitter into 1 loader/stash. 2 split into the fac, 1 into loader

[mystic glen]

will that splitter not output a bit more than 20/m? since the bottom converger should be occupied?

[meager stream]

imagine with those savings, the banners are mifu - camila (vampire guy) - feranmut girl - arcane. Dev HG wont let you pass this time

[brittle sedge]

but flow after that converger can only be 30/m

[bright zodiac]

you gotta choose

[brittle sedge]

then split by 3

[bright zodiac]

or gamble

[crude nebula]

gamba is the way

[mystic glen]

yeah, but won't the splitter skip going to the right side every so often when the belt that returns is full?

[meager stream]

.gambling

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1326848695513387038/771.png

[crude nebula]

i mean if the core play the same same the AKOG, you'll always have spare tcreds

[mystic glen]

I thought that kind of splitter needs to enforce priority to avoid the splitter skipping a beat

[meager stream]

hard to choose em, cuz theyre have good/big assets xD

[mystic glen]

haven't tried tho so might be worrying over nothing

[brittle sedge]

the cycle should have enough time so thats not a problem
if you are worry you ccan stick it to the port so the right side would always be taken first

[mystic glen]

actually yeah I think you are right

[brittle sedge]

these kind of things are what make the factory part more interesting

belt/pipe priority stuff

not sure if the mechanic is what intended to be though

[mystic glen]

not sure if this is the right way to think about it. But for now I'm thinking something like:

• splitter outputs to the return belt every 1/3, so that belt runs at 10/min
• converger takes from both belts alternating if possible, so max 15/min (which is enough for our 10/m belt)

And then I guess a 2 length belt is long enough of a buffer to account for any accidental overlapping peaks, but not sure how to reason about that

[brittle sedge]

thats a valid concern, which is why combinations which has speed less than 10/m all has a converger stick to the port, so it would prioritize the one flowing back first

[mystic glen]

so even tho there is no priority enforced, it might still be fine due to the merger inherently trying to take evenly from both belts

[mystic glen]

yeah I do that a lot, tho it is always nice to know that it is or is not required, I just don't know if this is one where it is or isn't

[jovial breach]

You still can make the self clog more than 15/min

[mystic glen]

how would that work? wouldn't that ensure the splitter skips?

[jovial breach]

I dont have the pic but an example is a 5/min model

[mystic glen]

yeah but 5/min works because of skips, while what I was saying was for a split where you don't want skips

wait, I'm confusing 1/5 with 5/min

[jovial breach]

the n/5 split

Cursed shit

[mystic glen]

n/5 is skips, so yeah, I was talking in a case such as this where you specifically don't want skips

and going above 15/m to me seems like it would force skips

[jovial breach]

Converger priority is the one thing that i never understand

[mystic glen]

can't wait for 2.0 and find out gas mergers/splitters have yet another priority logic than belts and pipes

[brittle sedge]

its simple

[mystic glen]

built splitter like chen
then test and see if you accidentally built one like perlica

[mystic glen]

so a converger with a belt going in and a splitter going in, will take from splitter first?

[brittle sedge]

thats my understanding of it

yes

[mystic glen]

ok, give me a sec

[subtle finch]

I find its easier to just place back the converger last, you don't even need to move it

[jovial breach]

That last statement is interesting

Does it behave differently if you dont place it using bp

[brittle sedge]

if you place manually the first place gets priority

[jovial breach]

Crazy

[mystic glen]

why is this then taking from splitter last?

https://youtu.be/T4hnEyPCVJs?si=TFRI2cIPtyJoGI9r&t=132

[brittle sedge]

bulk action move it somewhereelse and move it back

see if its still not working properly

[jovial breach]

So as hikarin said just place the converger last

[subtle finch]

they placed splitter last by hand

[mystic glen]

blueprint/offline: splitter side wins priority

so are you saying that what's in the video will break offline?

[subtle finch]

yes

[mystic glen]

ok, cool

I can honnestly live with undocumented "splitter wins prio" it's just annoying that it changes depending on what you place first and online vs offline

at the same time, kinda scared for any "fix" breaking all of it lol

[brittle sedge]

thats why its recomended to use bp, or bulk action move it somewhere and back after setup

[mystic glen]

yeah, I knew about the blueprint stuff, it's just that each time I see a video like that I start gaslighting myself into remembering it wrong

[subtle finch]

wait til you learn about locationality

[brittle sedge]

im interested

[mystic glen]

^

[late shale]

k spent a bit of time adjusting valley IV I just got into wuling

Not quite all im producing but its some

[brittle sedge]

you are missing 40/m in amethys and 80/m in ferrium

[late shale]

Yeah ill make some adjustments

[mystic glen]

Would be nice to have an unnoficial AIC manual

Like a site where the community can document how facilities actually work

[sleek needle]

Jingcao or this one is better?

[late shale]

Well for now I think its fine.

[brittle sedge]

we joked that we should have a AIC academy lol

[sleek needle]

the author of BP is not awake so I ask for help here
#aic-factory message

[vast iron]

we should

genuinely

[vast iron]

theyre the same

[valid gazelle]

did someone say AIC Acedemy

[sleek needle]

so doesn't matter?

[vast iron]

AICademy

[sleek needle]

also, I need help

why?

[subtle finch]

vi sensei 😭

[vast iron]

whats the blueprint for specifically

[mystic glen]

both work for making carbon

Yazhen makes a better healing item, but best healing items come from the manual farm fluffed jinaco or thorny yazhen so it's kinda up to you

Oh I think yazhen still better tho since not all outposts accept the jinaco one

[valid gazelle]

😭

[vast iron]

if its xiranite or medicine it works

[brittle sedge]

winds blowing...

[valid gazelle]

Hikarin sensei

[vast iron]

not the custom recipe tho

[sleek needle]

nothing specifically

[valid gazelle]

we have Hx2 sensei here too lah

[sleek needle]

I dunno other than it's from Arflanyr

[jovial breach]

Dont take sewage out or put sewage in the 2nd crucible

[brittle sedge]

oh no im only assistance

[valid gazelle]

appreciate the lecture about priority belts

[vast iron]

sewage tank probably full

[vast iron]

thats it

detention

[sleek needle]

what tank?

[valid gazelle]

what

why am i getting detention

[sleek needle]

1st and 2nd

[valid gazelle]

[brittle sedge]

i only recite what ive learnt from other senseis

[vast iron]

the one not connected to anything

[valid gazelle]

yes indeed other senseis are skillful at such projects

hkr sensei too

[vast iron]

second one doesnt have a sewage output, so it doesnt need a sewage input

[sleek needle]

it's still stuck either way

[vast iron]

put sewage in the top output then remove it after a bit

clears space

[brittle sedge]

should i prepare popcorn? its midnight

[valid gazelle]

nah no need

[sleek needle]

no

I dun want to

[valid gazelle]

hkr sensei is superb

[vast iron]

...

[valid gazelle]

aactually

[subtle finch]

I have no power irl

[valid gazelle]

get me some popcorn

[vast iron]

i just finished an exam

[mystic glen]

stash crucible and put it back then I guess?

[vast iron]

my brain is slow

[sleek needle]

sigh never mind

[jovial breach]

Why there's a sewage icon here wtf

[mystic glen]

clears everything out

[vast iron]

idk theres no sewage going on there

had me confused too

[brittle sedge]

control port?

[subtle finch]

[valid gazelle]

no Hikarin sensei is superb at everything

[vast iron]

you cant have a fluid control port over a belt

they occupy space

[mystic glen]

probs leftover control port

just like the leftover bridge

[vast iron]

theres a belt going under it

cant be a control port for liquids

wait

does fluid control port have a support pillar?

[subtle finch]

8%battery left

[brittle sedge]

you can

[vast iron]

oh

[jovial breach]

[vast iron]

well i never use them

no wonder

[jovial breach]

Technology

[valid gazelle]

technologia ~

[vast iron]

bonknology

[sleek needle]

I tried. still clogged

[jovial breach]

The most useless piece of shit has the best technologia

[daring rapids]

[valid gazelle]

imagine not giving the water treament power

lol

[vast iron]

the right reactor, output sewage from the top empty slot

not the one on the left

[jovial breach]

No just replace it

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

replacing means they gotta reconfigure the outputs tho

guh whatever

[mystic glen]

you might have forgotten to select it in the menu, I see you placed the tank but output is not outputting anything

[sleek needle]

I realised that myself

give me a moment

u said release the sewage right?

I dun wanna release it into the tank tho

[jovial breach]

No need

[vast iron]

release sewage till its not full

[brittle sedge]

🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿

[vast iron]

the tank is there for that purpose

lol

just dont keep it on

cut it off after its empty

[jovial breach]

Also why he's outputting sewage from the 1st crucible

[valid gazelle]

thank you Hx2 sensei 🍿

[vast iron]

no clue

[daring rapids]

[vast iron]

the popcorn man

[sleek needle]

no

[vast iron]

you will be remembered, seisei

[daring rapids]

[jovial breach]

Wait

[daring rapids]

no

[mystic glen]

the last reactor only works if it has at least 1 sewage free. so 49 max

anything below that works, but to make it easy just drain it all, then remove the tank. It should remain stable as long as everything remains fed and nothing else out of the ordinary clogs

[jovial breach]

I just noticed

His name

[sleek needle]

I refuse. I rather release it into sewage treatment

[vast iron]

then..?

[subtle finch]

[sleek needle]

which what I'm doing now

[sleek needle]

sewage treatment

[vast iron]

the 2nd reactor doesnt have a constant sewage output
if you empty it it wont make anything

[mystic glen]

you only drain it for a few seconds, after that you stop draining it so it's kinda not worth the effort

[vast iron]

you just output a bit since that makes space for the recipe that makes sewage

(xircon)

[mystic glen]

it's not a permanent alteration, it's just to get it unstuck

[valid gazelle]

we have to prepare some painkillers for hkr sensei later, Hx2 sensei

[jovial breach]

No wonder vi sensei had ptsd from this

[vast iron]

too late for that

[brittle sedge]

let me see if i can find any

[valid gazelle]

noooo

hkr sensei

[dreamy jungle]

🍿

[valid gazelle]

😭

[vast iron]

its time

for violence

[jovial breach]

[valid gazelle]

Khang sensei you see what i meant

[vast iron]

you

banished to #help

[valid gazelle]

groundpound sensei otsukare

[daring rapids]

I still couldn't believe I went 8 hours straight with this

[vast iron]

#help is detention now

btw

[sleek needle]

It doesn't change anything

it's still clogged

[subtle finch]

I read that as groundpork

[vast iron]

did you just like send the same image

[sleek needle]

no

whatever

[valid gazelle]

hkr sensei here 🪑

[vast iron]

why are the pipes on right reactor empty then

[sleek needle]

it's still clogged regardless

[mystic glen]

can you show the screen for the second crucible

[vast iron]

which direction is right
<-- or -->

[mystic glen]

the one you have the tank connected too

[vast iron]

the one with ferrium

that one

[valid gazelle]

GroundPound sensei... isnt that yours ?

[daring rapids]

I call this the #tech-support chair

[valid gazelle]

that design ?

[daring rapids]

stop reminding me

[daring rapids]

wait what design?

[valid gazelle]

no i meant it tho..

[valid gazelle]

this ?

you might be able to help hkr sensei if its yours

[daring rapids]

not even close

[valid gazelle]

ohhhh lol

so 8 hours and he changed

[daring rapids]

and I've done the rework with my pipes anyway

now it's doing full xircon

[valid gazelle]

[sleek needle]

it's fine

[vast iron]

sorry i forgot this was a gacha server for a second
my bad
@sleek needle

[sleek needle]

I had to reinstall the machine

[vital narwhal]

yo we're so back?? 🍿

[sleek needle]

This is why Wuling production is stupid

[sleek needle]

wrong one mb

[valid gazelle]

this is why you are stupid

[jovial breach]

He said it

[valid gazelle]

i said it

[daring rapids]

he said it

[vast iron]

my days

[sleek needle]

report

[valid gazelle]

thx

[brittle sedge]

hey i refrained my self from saying that lol

[vast iron]

job well done
you get a promotion < 3

[valid gazelle]

<3

[jovial breach]

We have the same thought but he actually said it

[sleek needle]

Done

[valid gazelle]

thx

o7

[mystic glen]

this is why we need remote AIC access...

2 second job

[vast iron]

at least if you clog it again in the future you will know

[brittle sedge]

if we have that ppl would make money from it, rmt

[vast iron]

(i just hope they dont forget to change back the sewage shit they made down bottom)

[valid gazelle]

wait so what position am i now ?

[vast iron]

head of ragebait

[valid gazelle]

yes

[subtle finch]

imagine needing to pay to have a functioning aic

[vast iron]

pay 4,99 to unlock priority convergers

[valid gazelle]

funny enough someone actually sent me a request to do so..

[brittle sedge]

you know farewell some will do

[subtle finch]

same

[valid gazelle]

[vast iron]

how am i not getting commissions yet

[mystic glen]

would be kinda funny to have like a mini challenge where one person makes a as fucked up factory as possible that clogs everywhere and then the other has to try and fix it

[vast iron]

challenge accepted

[daring rapids]

@valid gazelle how do u make it looks more pretty?

[valid gazelle]

what in the world...

[subtle finch]

look at the 🪞

[vast iron]

i have some old bullshit blueprints with useage conditions so specific you will never figure it out

[vast iron]

just delete the game

[jovial breach]

Press X
Multiple select
Select all
Press F
Press confirm

[daring rapids]

I mean it works

[vast iron]

cant clog if you dont have an account :c

[wheat forum]

What on Talos is this spaghetti!?

[daring rapids]

it's just double full xircon setups

[vast iron]

italian chef made ts

[daring rapids]

I tried my best to fit them in confined space guys

[vast iron]

still love how you have half your sewage just flowing through into treatment instead of just doing a 1 refinery to 1 forge like a normal person

[vast iron]

you

solitary confinement

[wheat forum]

Meanwhile me on the block layout

[valid gazelle]

[vast iron]

this aint bad

[daring rapids]

uh rn this thing is not running at full capacity

[dreamy jungle]

yes the worm

[daring rapids]

since I'm running 6+2 fots now

[subtle finch]

forge forge forge forge forge forge

[jovial breach]

Sorry 1 refinery to 1 what

[vast iron]

you dont even have enough treatments assuming youre not wasting energy

[jovial breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/711277274770702407.gif?v=1

[daring rapids]

4 refines = 4 treatments

wym not enough?

[vast iron]

wasting energy

solitary confinement

again

3 should be enough even if its not full eff

[daring rapids]

but it will be clog-free indefinitely

[jovial breach]

Im storing sewage in bottles now

Im feeling insane

[valid gazelle]

its funny how at the start of 1.1 we are like ... "inert = bad must treat"

now its "inert = potential eff"

[brittle sedge]

next is sewage

[valid gazelle]

ye

sewage = bad

now sewage = potential eff

[jovial breach]

Well it's just the sewage from hetonite in markerstone, im not gonna connect conduit from that all the way to test site

We do the technologia way

[river wadi]

use a filling unit to bottle the sewage and transport it over via bluetooth and then separating unit

[jovial breach]

Yep that

[wheat forum]

In 3 hrs left and counting, yeah

[valid gazelle]

yep imma build that in the morning

[vital narwhal]

honestly I was planning putting cuprium refine at main aic and heto prod at CRS, but I been having second thoughts. if I want to refine cuprium at main aic stashless, need a ton of loaders or use PAC as loader

[brittle sedge]

9hrs acktually

[mystic glen]

it's honnestly not too bad, just a shame it caps at 30/m for a single facility chain

[dreamy jungle]

embrace stash

[mystic glen]

bit annoying if you want to transport like 60/m or more

never, embrace PAC

[vast iron]

500 protocol stashes.

[vital narwhal]

too late for that

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/jb92Sa67uk7.gif

[vast iron]

oh my god

unholy ass shit

[valid gazelle]

very clean hx2 sensei

[vital narwhal]

that is so many depot sections..

[vast iron]

i need to purge this channel

@subtle finch dump nerdposts please

[jovial breach]

Too much space smh

[mystic glen]

kinda funny how we all have phobia's

some have stash phobia, some pac phobia, and others depot section phobia

[vast iron]

god i love how unserious this channel is <3

[nova pilot]

Wait I jas got here

[valid gazelle]

i have 4 wings of these

[sleek needle]

decided to remove storage tank for sewage to go out before going back

[vast iron]

i cant anymore

someone

do it

[brittle sedge]

anyone volunteer?

[valid gazelle]

there's a reason why all the senseis are having popcorn

[jovial breach]

Sewage coming out from xircon crucible

[daring rapids]

yay it looks less painful now

[valid gazelle]

[valid gazelle]

🪑 sit down hkr sensei

[daring rapids]

hey at least I know what I'm doing alright

[vast iron]

no

[river wadi]

are we supposed to save outpost bills in cardiac remediation station for level 3

[daring rapids]

I'm not like djanime

[vast iron]

i will break the chair instead

[valid gazelle]

[subtle finch]

the 1.25 sc production can share a purification unit with the hetonite, saving 50w, but no one has attempted it yet

[brittle sedge]

yes

[valid gazelle]

and asia's savings just got nuked

[vital narwhal]

attempting complex build right before it becomes irrelevant

[valid gazelle]

[river wadi]

so does that mean i should sell all my gourds to sky king flats so they dont automatically get sold to cardiac remediation station and deplete the bills

[valid gazelle]

yes

[vast iron]

you can share xiranite jade gourd's crucible with effluent production for heavy xiranite, saving 50w

[jovial breach]

Man eu peeps have the privilege to do that

[vast iron]

also that design sounds like hell

[jovial breach]

[vast iron]

i will not be doing it

[vast iron]

we are irrelevant

in the face of stupidity we are useless

[vast iron]

just dont live

:3

[valid gazelle]

i have to

so i can witness magic

like .. 20 minutes ago

[vast iron]

according to a research done by me, myself and I, human suffering is composed almost entirely of idiocy

[jovial breach]

Asia people from 13 hours ahead now we're 3 days behind in outpost stocks

[vast iron]

dont quote me

[valid gazelle]

Jas sensei

hello there

[vast iron]

mm math

[brittle sedge]

what should i do its almost full

[jovial breach]

Maffs

[vital narwhal]

stash?

[vast iron]

cry

[daring rapids]

I just let it clogs

[jovial breach]

Eat

[mystic glen]

every turret is a free stash

[valid gazelle]

sadly such stashes are full

[brittle sedge]

all turrets stocked

[wheat forum]

Priority trading

[brittle sedge]

bills all gone because of event

[vital narwhal]

can temporarily delete some v4 factory for more facility limit and stash there

[daring rapids]

what happens if u let it clogs?

[wheat forum]

Then reduce Battery to 6/min and bring DOP in Gearing

[brittle sedge]

waste on resource at worst

[vast iron]

cope (and cry)

[daring rapids]

wait what else are u wasting aside from sewage?

[brittle sedge]

ori and xira?

[daring rapids]

bruh

[vast iron]

im wasting everything

i couldnt even bother

[daring rapids]

if I let batt clog, I'll have free xira for hxira

I don't call that waste

[valid gazelle]

what about originium ?

[daring rapids]

what else do u use ori for aside for power?

[vast iron]

im spending more time in here than in game

is that an issue

[valid gazelle]

are you gonna use 480/min worth of originium for component ?

[wheat forum]

Gears

[brittle sedge]

normal

[valid gazelle]

nah its perfectly normal

[vast iron]

i havent worked on FoTS share in weeks

[daring rapids]

ehh, I could use metatransfer for that

[vast iron]

one armor piece per hour ahh rate

[river wadi]

1500 dense originium powder can make 150 xiranite components which is 3 armors

[daring rapids]

last time when batt clogged I saw my oriocrust line clogged waiting for xira

[vast iron]

my everything would implode

so

fun!

[brittle sedge]

well at least well have a new depot node in 9hrs

[river wadi]

yay more wuling money

[valid gazelle]

oooh yea

now i can transfer 2 deliveries

[jovial breach]

Wait 9hrs?

[river wadi]

and then they come back at 2%

[valid gazelle]

surprisingly..

all of my deliveries so far have all been 100%

[mystic glen]

I don't think I've ever had someone break my packages tbh

[valid gazelle]

even when we were still at V4

[mystic glen]

^

[jovial breach]

Ideal society

[mystic glen]

they should give different effects depending on package contents. you break package of sand leaf, same as now, you break package of explosives....

[valid gazelle]

Welp yall have a lovely night/day

[mystic glen]

gn

[brittle sedge]

gn

[wheat forum]

Nighty night

[vast iron]

timezones

gn anyways... :3

[spring elm]

It's 1 pm where I'm at

[dire vapor]

Noooooo

[brittle sedge]

yeeeeeees

[mystic glen]

first they came for your gourds, then they raided your oupost too...

[undone current]

another victim

[mystic glen]

Early warnign system working well

[keen river]

you are on asian server?

[undone current]

seems so

[keen river]

yeah, 3 more hours for eu

[dire vapor]

Man

[vast iron]

blight tide v2 coming soon

[jovial breach]

Is eu on daylight saving now

[keen river]

yeah

[jovial breach]

Because i remember eu was 14hrs behind

[undone current]

basically -12 hours from us

[jovial breach]

But apparently it's 13hrs

[keen river]

i should probably get around 5m event tokens when event ends total 🤔

[undone current]

u sacrifice outpost?

[nova osprey]

it was always 13 hours behind

[jovial breach]

I remember wrongly then

[nova osprey]

[jovial breach]

[keen river]

i dont really have any stockpile in outpost anyway

doesnt matter whatsoevr tbh

[nova osprey]

always 13 hours behind, but now daily reset for me is at 5 am instead of 4 am

it just gets a little confusing

[mystic glen]

it's at 11 am for me, honnestly quite comfortable

[jovial breach]

Eu people having 25 hours in a day

[keen river]

yeah, daily resets 11am

[jovial breach]

And 23 hours for the day after

[nova osprey]

[mystic glen]

a day is 48 hours if you want it too

the only reset that confuses the fuck out of me is skport reset

[brittle sedge]

its 0am cn time

[nova osprey]

yeah 0 am cn time

[mystic glen]

so 7 hours after daily reset? (EU/NA)

[grave veldt]

Unplayeable

[nova osprey]

6

[mystic glen]

do they have daylight saving's too?

[brittle sedge]

i dont think so

[nova osprey]

cn no daylight savings

it's 6 off or on daylight savings

[vital narwhal]

12pm utc-5 for test area
10am utc-5 for skport reset

[dire vapor]

Another one gets hacked

[mystic glen]

oh no, another one

[dire vapor]

Why do they keep falling for it

[forest frigate]

because stoopid

[keen badge]

last stretch 😮‍💨
I'll let xiranite build for about an hour and a half and then burst until the end

[brittle sedge]

if you already traded everything from event shop you should stop immediately

[keen badge]

I didn't quite clear the event store, but nothing major left fortunately

[brittle sedge]

the point is to leave no excess gourds

[green sleet]

@craggy oyster heres those bps for the flower. If theyre too jumbled lmk and i can try and refine them down to be more segmented.

[STEM N LEF]
EFO010U95Au05IiAIE179

[BOTTOM]
EFO01893i628i415aUI73

[LEFT SIDE]
EFO0158O63756Uu13eIoe

[RIGHT SIDE]
EFO01a704U3a4uAUuoe5e

[TOP OF FLWR]
EFO01u1I7a5u7O038AoOU

[sleek needle]

Again it's not my BP

[indigo oak]

im just barely making the trim in 1.5h

i have 30mins buffer

in case my factory shits itself or sth

[sleek needle]

Roasting me for it is not gonna change it

[brittle sedge]

greate

[sleek needle]

It's not my BP

It's not my BP

It's not my BP

It's not my BP

[indigo oak]

bless yalls souls, everyone who helped me with bp yesterday

[green sleet]

Guys, i think it wasnt their bp.

[sleek needle]

It's not my BP @vast iron @brittle sedge

So shut up about it

[brittle sedge]

did i say anything about you?

[tender thistle]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[sleek needle]

Did you NOT?!

I give up on you idiots

Not helpful at all

[brittle sedge]

now we doing false accusation eh

[green sleet]

Chill out. Instead of insulting people, why dont you go out and learn how to make a factory on your own merits

[brittle sedge]

wow

[green sleet]

Nah. You cant treat people that way and expect others to just sit there and take it.

[keen badge]

checked my gourd count
they yielded enough funbucks to clear out the store
time to clean up the production lines, I'm done \(^.^)/

[brittle sedge]

also clear all your gourds, or else it will eat your outpost stock bills when event end

[sleek needle]

Back at you ppl making fun on others

[green sleet]

Cept i dont, but go off.

[indigo oak]

guys, how do become good at factory designing

(dont say in-game tuts. i know that)

[brittle sedge]

trials and errors ig
choose a thing you want to make, try make it yourself

does it work-> is it at 100% efficiency->is it beautyful/compact

[lusty ingot]

if you are not red on resources that means you messed up

[mystic glen]

don't forget power efficiency in that last step

since last step is just the "arbitrary limitations step to make you feel proud of yourself"

[vast iron]

did bro ping me after 30 minutes

really

[brittle sedge]

more like 3hrs

[indigo oak]

what about all the math

so i can work from result to start

[brittle sedge]

hmm use the recipe input ratio and production time to calculate your input

[mystic glen]

belts run at 30/m or 0.5/s speeds

so if it needs 1 mat every 2 seconds that's one belt
2 every 2 seconds is 2 belts

10 every 10 seconds is also 2 belts

[solid quiver]

I have feeling after few updates AIC will be abused like redstone

[indigo oak]

isnt it already?

[brittle sedge]

i dont mind

[mystic glen]

facility limit a bitch tho

[indigo oak]

people making pingpong machines and playing bad apple

[brittle sedge]

what bad apple? in endfield?

where

[mystic glen]

saw a calculator too

[indigo oak]

https://youtu.be/BynRzlfJ5hg?is=o9flatJh1Qt5wUot

[green sleet]

I usually start my factories with the final ouput and work my way backwards.

[indigo oak]

yeah thats what i was thinking. if i know what i want i can work from there

[brittle sedge]

how tf did they do this lol

[mystic glen]

yeah I usually place all my facilities first, starting from the last one. then once I can visually see what I need I start fideling with their positions and placing belts

[indigo oak]

idk

ohhhh

i sketched it out every time bc i was short on space

[green sleet]

Like on paper?

[indigo oak]

yeah

[brittle sedge]

you can use enkad

[indigo oak]

they have limited space

unfortunately

[mystic glen]

that feels like some kind of mod tbh. Like aren't those control ports, how dafuq are they changing?

[green sleet]

Well i admire the dedication to the craft

[brittle sedge]

yeah thats what i thought. edited even

[green sleet]

Now that im thinking about it, graph paper would go hard with planning if youre out of service or wifi.

[mystic glen]

graph paper and 3d print aic facilities to scale like that fengshui guy on youtube

[forest frigate]

soo.. what do I do if my production slows down because I lack water, but I am at the pipeline limit and cant connect a new pump? I tried using manifolds but I just keep hitting the limit before I connect them, even tho I have less piping

[mystic glen]

try finding places where you can place a converger/splitter right next to eachother instead of with a pipe inbetween?

[vital narwhal]

it's probably just video editing masking between all-white and all-black version of image

[brittle sedge]

reduce the amount of facilities that connected to one pipe?

[mystic glen]

like if you have two splitters that each split twice, maybe you can replace it with only 1 splitting in 3, saving a pipe

[forest frigate]

already did, if I change anything I can't connect it up anymore because I hit the limit

[dire vapor]

Have you tried not hitting the limit

[indigo oak]

can u show- LMAO

[vital narwhal]

post images of your pipes, we can surely save some somewhere

[indigo oak]

can u show the pipes

[mystic glen]

uh, maybe you can use the new manifolds? like if you have an conduit outlet that uses a splitter, sometimes that lets you save a facility/pipe

[keen badge]

submitted the last gourds, now I can figure out this hetonite thing in peace
the first attempt was an absolute mess (but it worked at least ^^')

[mystic glen]

what do you want to build? just full efficiency hetonite?

[forest frigate]

it's specifically this pipe, or more like the planter in the bottom left, which doesnt get enough water

and yes, I tried adding a splitter and a converger on the right, because the other pump is not being fully used

[mystic glen]

if you place this against the facility you have one more pipe to work with

[brittle sedge]

it seems like that line only have 1.5/s but you feed it to 4 facilities

[keen badge]

Some hetonite, yes, but in moderation (I'd use cuprium to make recovery items too (some for personal use, the rest for outpost trade))

[forest frigate]

idk where to place that at tho. Or do you mean I should place the converger at the planter and direct the pipe from below?

[indigo oak]

i have 0 experience but cant u merge the two pipes outside the aic area?

[silent canyon]

I feel like item control ports aren't used that much. Here's how I used them.
It's a sorter that now allows me to change the item exported out of the AIC, without having to redo the machines.
If I output raw ore, it gets refined then fitted.
If I output refined ore, it skips the refinery and goes to fitting.
If I output the final product, it skips processing and goes into my packaging machine directly

[mystic glen]

here is another spot where you can save pipes by rearanting a few things

[mystic glen]

as far as I can see you do pump > pipe > converger
when that could just be pump > converger

which gives you one more pipe to use elsewhere

[mystic glen]

same with this image, you have a splitter right after a bridge, which is fine, but you put a one length pipe between them when you don't have to do that. This wastes a pipe that you might need elsewhere

[brittle sedge]

so many unnecessary pipe bridge

[forest frigate]

I think I solved my problem by removing the splitter/converger on the right and doing a pipe at the bottom and converge it to the pipe that supplies the planter

[mystic glen]

and yeah every time you bride you double your pipe count for that line since that one pipe is now two pipes, before and after the bridge. So avoiding crossing pipes is good if you can

[vital narwhal]

more that you could do but example of some changes

[neat osprey]

Damn, they stole the event items even from my Chen loops

[vital narwhal]

and obv need to add more pump too

did people test if gourds on the ground are also deleted?

[brittle sedge]

all gone

[vital narwhal]

gg

[keen river]

you cant drop them to begin with

[vital narwhal]

o i didn't kno that

[fervent lodge]

wdym limited space

[indigo oak]

isnt it a limited grid

last time i checked it wasnt even enough to fit wuling

[fervent lodge]

it's an unlimited amount of 160x160 grids

[spring elm]

I would just give my planters dedicated lines from their own pumps. Uses more protocol capacity but they're just too critical to production lines to risk using splitters and long piping

[keen river]

enkad seem to be limited to 150x150

[forest frigate]

I guess, yes, but I don't really have the brain capacity to optimize all that shi. I just want some hetonite comps to craft some gear.

[keen river]

but thats way more than enough

[fervent lodge]

well technically it isn't, it's cosmetic

[mystic glen]

you know, there's always boxes... /s

[keen river]

i mean, obviously

[spring elm]

oh I get it. I spent hours making a hetonite line and found out I didnt have enough hetonite solution...so gotta redo the whole thing

[keen river]

but its what gui enforces

[forest frigate]

arent they somewhat limited?

[mystic glen]

yeah yeah, I'm not serious

[fervent lodge]

become ungovernable

[forest frigate]

I think my stuff is beyond optimization anyways. The best course of action would be to delete all wuling factories and start fresh but... I don't want to do that

[keen river]

😅

[fervent lodge]

fact-check:

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=D2C4h7s3N1k8M2

it's enough to fit wuling and 3 outposts if you so desire

[forest frigate]

I mean yes I get the idea, but I would have to move so much stuff around that I would just end up breaking it instead of producing next to nothing

[indigo oak]

oh wow. i havent used it since day 1 wuling. so they probably got a big update

[spring elm]

that site is the best thing ever

[fervent lodge]

i think i did grid size at 70 initially

so you may be right

[vague matrix]

Guys is there any way to get more exits than just 6 for each base? Its annoying as hell

In progress i just defeated the third boss

[sick basin]

More exits?

[vague matrix]

And like steel materials

[sick basin]

Oh, outputs?

[vague matrix]

Yeah

The ones that transfer from stash on the conveyer

[sick basin]

Upgrade the aic stewards, theres depot buses

From which youll get outputs via the depot unloader

[mystic glen]

also, you can move the AIC core, just in case you didn't know yet

[vague matrix]

You mean the things i upgrade in the same spot as the territory?

Im playing in different language so that might cause some confusion

[vague matrix]

That i did

[sick basin]

The owl robot thing near your aics

[vague matrix]

Because if thats what you meant then i didnt find any more outputs even a fter maxing those

[mystic glen]

yeah, the little guy next to your AIC area that sells area expansions, also sells depot buss upgrades

afeter you got the buss, you can place unloaders and loaders to get more inputs end outputs

[sick basin]

U just slap "Depot Unloaders" on said buses and habe outputs

[vague matrix]

Well i did those upgrades but honestly i have no idea what they do bbecause they didnt make any more outputs

Depot unloaders?...

[mystic glen]

do you see a big wall next to your aic area now?

[vague matrix]

Weell yeah thats what i meant

[sick basin]

Ye, craft them and use them

[mystic glen]

in your AIC crafting menu you should find depot unloader and depot loader

like same place you make refining units or shredding units

[vague matrix]

Hold on

[mystic glen]

well, actually, same tab as protocol stash

[vague matrix]

Dang it i cant use both game and discord at the same time

Uhhh

Lemme check

[sick basin]

Not the best but quickly
The small-ish things at the top

[mystic glen]

in top down mode it's here

loader is an input, unloader is an output

[vague matrix]

GOD FRICKIN DANGIT

found them

[mystic glen]

In valley 4 the prevailing wisdom is use depot unloaders as outputs, and use protocol stashes as inputs/storage.

You can use depot loaders stashing the final goods too but usually it's more benefitial to save the space on the buss for all unloaders

[pulsar willow]

Hello guys

When is the patch?

[keen river]

tomorrow

[pulsar willow]

On EU/NA

[vague matrix]

When i read at the description if the upgrades i was looking at the same spot where likej conveyer adds were like separator or item checking thingie

[mystic glen]

oh or your AIC core itself ofcourse, very good loader too since it has tons of inputs

[vague matrix]

But it was a little lower ;-;

I have officially wasted like an hour of my life for nothing

[sick basin]

New patch as in 1.3? June 5th

[pulsar willow]

Can I get a more accurate time, please?

[pulsar willow]

The expansion to 12 forges on 14th of May

[vague matrix]

I spent so much time trying to make the best energy generator with what outputs i had and it was for nothing T_T

[mystic glen]

nah, learning opportunity

[keen river]

no idea about exact time, probably 19:00 as usual? 🤔

[pulsar willow]

What timezone?

[mystic glen]

you could be like some others here that never try anything themselves and then waste hours upon hours once they hit wuling and nothing works for them cuz they don't understand even the basics

[vague matrix]

EFO011ea2uo3i3Ua34O7 blueprint i came up with. Wanted to brag and share but i guess this is useless now

[sick basin]

21 hours 34 mins for eu/na
13 hours less for asia

[pulsar willow]

Thanks

[mystic glen]

do you have image instead?

[vague matrix]

Its too big, blueprint image doesnt let me zoom fsr

Or wait maybe i was trying to zoom in the wrong place, hold on lemme try again

[keen badge]

Hoped to make both recovery items but there just isn't enough cuprium atm to produce them efficiently @.@
One line draws 120/min (current total we can mine is 180/min)
Guess I'll go with the Syringe[A], both outposts accept it 🤷

[mystic glen]

https://hammertime.cyou/en handy site to make timestamps, won't have to convert that way. Just in case it's handy for you

[sick basin]

Ik about it dw lol
I just had it already ready so might as well

[mystic glen]

wait can enkad open BP codes?

[fervent lodge]

yep

[mystic glen]

woah, never knew

that's handy

[sick basin]

Ok, now implement reverse

[mystic glen]

^

[sick basin]

[fervent lodge]

[mystic glen]

ez pz right

[fervent lodge]

paypal me $30k

[sick basin]

Give me kiss, hug, cuddle, vip and first person to know enkad changes

[vague matrix]

Nah too big

[sick basin]

We already seen it, its abovr

[vague matrix]

Its like 42x36

[mystic glen]

sandleaf shreds into 3 powders

[vague matrix]

Oh

Thx

[mystic glen]

so you probs need only one farm there and even have a belt leftover that you can stash for deliveries

[sick basin]

It wont work

[vague matrix]

Ik but its not enough for 4 gens

[sick basin]

Yoire outputting 2 outputs for 1 planter

U cant do that

[vague matrix]

Wdym?

[vague matrix]

Actually maybe it would be

No nvm

[mystic glen]

I missremembered a bit

[sick basin]

You also cant do this

[mystic glen]

I think the grinding units only need one sandleaf belt each right?

in which case a single farm makes 3 belts

[vague matrix]

Wdym?

[sick basin]

And please, stop using control ports

[sick basin]

2 outputs

[vague matrix]

I only used them for hints i actually hate them myself lol but only in the official blueprints

[mystic glen]

so the second farm is needed for the last grinding unit, but that leaves you with two spare belts which you can route to your AIC inputs, that way you always stockpile sandleaf which is handy for making deliveries

[vague matrix]

Well yeah it halves the outcome but it shreds into 3 like halvard said so it covers up

[nova osprey]

your factory is going to die

[sick basin]

That much is true, yes

[vague matrix]

Oh, i completely forgot about delivereies existing

[mystic glen]

?

[vague matrix]

I barely do them at all

[vague matrix]

This build makes EXACTLY 1 BE battery per 20 seconds

[nova osprey]

actually nvm ignore me, i only saw a small snippet and thought you did smth else

[mystic glen]

all good

[vague matrix]

I stayed for a while to checj and ensure it works

[mystic glen]

you were right anyway

my factory is going do die sooner or later

[nova osprey]

[mystic glen]

idk what or why

but it will