#aic-factory
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the factory builds up sewage but only when i log off i swear with every fiber of muscle in my body
you don't need to rush into last thing
No I mean there is like a recipe that show us what to put in what
Wuling AIC is gonna burst my head
i sit here on my ass watching the factory but no sewage builds up at all
Same
youre not alone, we all here are brain exploded
It's not factorio level of headache but it's still giving me the PTSD
but do you memorized or familarized with formulas?

Nop I don’t think so
Aight guys, I need a quick way to use up my xircon, and fast
I advocate for centralised processing of bulk sewage to be sent down the wuling pipeline to the test area entrance where 5 ish treatment plants wait to deal with it until the place opens
makes me wanna try that factorio shi even on mobile
I don't have to

can anyone find out if something is wrong please i just want this issue dealt with
Wdym u dont 😔
If they gave me the whole outpost area to freely build and with free placement of input & output for both materials and fluids I might not be so insane rn
I can't even see what's happening here wdym what's wrong with it
yeah, im stumped, i check thoroughly and there's no issue
maybe something is wrong with your other rates, like are you running out of ferrium?
Make it in 1 line with no overlaps and I'll still not understand it
so you can just take it as a task to familarize with
what you're seeing are 2 battery units, each using a pair of expanded crucibles
I log back in and every single time theres sewage built up that clogs the factory
Ohhhh to put radmon thing to understand which one belong to which?
the moment i clear out the sewage the whole factory works again
huh why is there a dangling sewage pipe on that left side?
there's plenty days you have needed to familarize with
im not getting why is there sewage built up
Is this another half xircon crucible problem
Well something must be making more sewage than is being processed
pretend its not there
its there so i can quickly turn it on when i log back in since sewage keesp building up
yeah then you would familiarize with AIC and can begin to do as formula intended to
i made very sure there is not more sewage being produced than it is being used
sorry my brain exploded 
you're either short on xiranite, ferrium or water
its 1 sewage/sec
that's the only explanation i can think of
or full inputs
make more hxira
Idk it's almost 1am and I don't have the energy to analyze this rn, bye

ferrium not possible, but maybe water somehow im not sure

Anyone got blueprint for yazhen pot A?
anything beside xiranite that I should stockpile before the next patch guys?
hxira, happy mindblowing :3
there's reason why some teachers tell you to start from the scratch when you don't know what's wrong
Lol. It looks like a people. Ima name him Stan. Stan the Snadlef man
That's evil
do you want me to make the whole thing from scratch then
You should if you want an early onset of baldness
this whole factory i did made from scratch
its encountering a problem and thats why im asking for help
Damn you're good at it
i cant figure out why its not working
and only when i log off
nothing is out of the ordinary when i watch the factory myself
once this filled up my hxiranite gonna start stockpiling, anything else beside it
can you show what you are doing with the inert?
dont worry, me too 
The factories I made basically had no overlapping lines or pipes, very clean and straight forward
the purification unit might be clogged is my next guess
yes cuz some facility is lacking sewage while some is lacking water
yes 1 sec
Your water treatment on right side is off?
Could you evt highlight where the issue is at?
which is lacking sewage and which is lacking water
wait
Its quite cathartic

redone mine last week, good luck pal
As cathartic as it is maddening
nothing so far, umm..
clogs sewage at the expanded crucibles
The second i remove the sewage the whole factory runs again
True, especially when shits just 1 block too big to bulk move
guess im gonna ease up on the syringe and stocking more hetonite, never having enough of it
I suspect it is clogging on the left side correct?
yes

2 expanded crucible on left are lacking water and 2 expanded crucible needed sewage is lacking sewage
Oh boi, eliminating that inert is so counterproductive
I think I know what went wrong now
I got lucky with my LC Bat²/Heavy Xira/Xira² cube being barely small enough to bulk move
i didnt, i purified it to reuse for the jade gourd unit
im legit watching the whole factory, the sewage is just going between 0 and 1
this is after ive completely cleared out the sewage so the factory runs again
My brain still doesn't understand how to make a whole prod line compact and how to fit the fluid pipes well instead of just making everything a straight line
Here, but ig not the main problem
why they appear to be temporary constant is both are split into 3
you have 12/min of battery, and 12/min of heavy? your xiranite would drop so fast 
you have to balance your sewage flow I think
I made mine in straight lines 😂
make it flow in parallel
it's not exactly 1
not in serial
Straight lines is the truth indeed
Yeah thats not sustainable
0.3 or 0.6
Probably burning excess
yeah well at some point im turning 1 off but thats not the big issue
Conduits do a lot of work in keeping pipe spaghetti in check
currently 12/min scw & 6/m hxira 
each battery unit only uses 0.5 sewage/sec
I connected exactly 2 culprium refiners to the conduit and split equally between 2 crucibles
i swear to god there is no way im inputting more than i am rn
sewages will pile up in conduit and will look as constant
now have condult manifest :3
welll this relies in jade producing at 12/min
after some point they will be depleted and leads other facilities to clog
your purification will clog if you dont produce 12/min jade constantly
Manifest?
this is the sewage conduit, the one to the right.
THe left one is used for jade gourd, but is irrelevant for my problem
no I mean like one crucible's sewage output shouldn't be another crucible's sewage input
wdym
when you are only producing 6/min jade, is that purification's water still hook to the planter?
yup, check it in facilities.
it has 2 input output pipes
i suggest just dumping the water, and use a separate pump
seems like you are not understanding what we are advising
i can do this later ig
But why tho
I advise you to do entire AIC from scratch
im legit confused why the flow rate is wrong fr
how come I'm expert
they are using 2 full xircon crucible, sewage is fine
I've been meaning to ask but why doesn't sewage passthrough work, in a 15/m xircon setup
modifying all pac 
no
1 split isnt a big deal if they say its 1/s sewage
no?????
that sewage was split into 3 and one was going into water treatment unit
i turned that treatment unit off
Oh you meant the manifold 😂
I use them too, love them
i have to disagree that there's anything wrong with the sewage or anything from the first picture
it looks like an old setup
at its current state the treatment can be treated as it not even existing
it doesnt do anything
the problem started with that purification unit, when jade was introduced
since pipe can flow at 2u/s
is there a problem?
if the next machine has plenty of space
hmm yeah i just noticed this problem only starts when i connected it to the jade gourd
but idk ya if its can be filled with 2 liquids or not
that damn water treatment unit
the unit is full, it doesnt add anymore
its also turned off
fluid will drain off the previous machine much faster
he is using a full xircon reactors, that problem is only relevant for half xircon systems
flow should go completely to the batteries and not the treatment unit
The ui looks like it only accepts 1 liquid type at a time, so best bet is to use it for single liquids
imagine 6 pumps with 2 converged pipe & a manifold

dog wtf even are these 💀 💀 💀
what about water conduit in aic area
that is split into 3
Also this, clogged.
the water conduit?
I think I have same setup too
Mm. Compacted production~
conduit has water
for example you want to plant 6 yazhens means need 6 pipes water, ya just used 1 manifold & then 2 splitters. It still flows above 60 water/min xD
that conduit is 2 water/sec
half goes to the 2 forges, half goes to the 2 crucibles
like i said, each unit only uses a water unit every 2 seconds, or 0.5 water/sec, so i can supply 4 units with a single conduit
im trying to follow the convo here, seems youve been clogging inert
sewage
are you sure that's not a half xircon? i cant tell properly because its not running
I think that what I want from the dev as well, introduced more way to compact the setup
You have 2 pumps connected to that conduit, right?
yes
Theyre a great addition. I used the manifolds with my great pipeline bringing all of my excess sewage up to where test area will be lol
i confirm that
is the conduits same flow rate as 1 pipe? 2u/s?
but still that sewage goes to 3
yes its capped at that
it's an old pic from when I disabled them for making gourds but yes all 4 of them normally make xircons
it goes into 3 expanded crucible
sewage seems normal to me
yeah, that's called half xircon reactors 😭
ok i may have found the problem i think
what's full about this one😭
I see they're the same
and tomorrow...totally forgot xD
hikarin brought my attention to the xiranite
im producing 2 jade gourds so that burns xiranite FAST
You have the left crucible making xircon with an unconnected sewage, not processing that
Yeah, we also mentioned that
so you just didnt have enough mats?
since my jade gourd unit uses the water thats prufified from the inert xircon, the second theres no xiranite going into the jade gourd, the water stops being used
You can only have that setup for so long as you burn through your excess xira
that clogs up the pruifier
so it was an inert problem
yes
full xircon reactor make it like this
one is just a 0.5/s effluent support
What am I looking at
whats a half and full xircon reactor lol
try making hxira 6/min using 4 forgesky + 1 crucible + 1 expanded without puri, will be mindblown xD
Hi I'm new here! Can I still finish the AIC event if I only start producing jade gourds now? 
bruh what
You might be able to get at least the pulls
it works for me hahah, goodluck with mindblowing 😅
Or actually, idk
At least phase1s
Cuz you need 200k credits to unlock the 2nd part
15+ 30
Still worth trying )
half xircon reactors is 4 expanded reactors all taking in ferrium and sewage, and making 15/min of xircon each. they're prone to sewage clog
full xircon reactors is just like your build, only 2 of the 4 expanded reactors are making xircon, that's not prone to sewage clog
Thank you @hardy tangle !
possible if you are not planning to get excessive t credits
will look something like this in expanded reactor
bro just took a screenshot of my crucible without even needing access to my acount
wah 5 liquids....a-ah
all expanded crucible looks same bruh
aw
don't all they make the same amount of xircon anyway?
Oh you dont really want to do all xircon production in 1 expanded only x_x unless you happy with a Half speed production, and clog.
nevertheless, im gonna check back in a few hours and if it still fucks up then im gonna crash out and kill myelf
input is same
half xircon reactors need to only use 0.25/s sewage each
that's why if you give them more they clog
full xircon reactors are safe from this
i thought you're not new here anymore 
so it lead to some products maked later
my setup is like having 4 water treatment units
so it won't clog no matter what
😭
we have been advocating against half xircon systems since 1.2 dropped
if they mention sewage clog, it's mostly because of that
yeah i can pretty much confirm the problem was because of the jade gourd
Goodluck with mindblowing guys
Cya im tired

I never approach sewage like that because I just count the amount of water treatment units to the same amount of refining unit I have
it's like a fail-safe
even if everything else clogs
a 100w fail safe 🥀
but 100% work
lmao 💀
bruh his was joke
even if xircon 100% clogs, copium would still work
my jade gourd only works at its full potential if hypergryph doesnt forge limit us with just 8 and actually allows me to have more xiranite inputs
The moment i run out of xiranite, jade gourd stops fully using the water from the purifier, which stops the purifier as it clogs, which stops the whole battery facility, and stops the jade gourd itself
fucking doom cycle bro
This be my Aic. All productions are in straight lines and as compact as theyre gonna get until i do my next redesign. All lines run at 100% with no outside resets ever.

it will be the real challenge when you force yourself not to produce sand leaves at another location an instead directly uses a sandleaf unit to feed the production
which is what im doing
i also force myself to make the facility only as wide as the number of inputs it uses lol
works but not optimal
you're not using every resources at your disposal
the beauty of xiranite production is that it needs not any Depot outputs, only eventually a stash
its a safe option, but not the most effectively using what we already have
so you can place and plan it wherever you want it
I do have a bad habbit of building sandleaf farm cubes, yes.
Aside from Xira, all of my factories stay within their depot footprints
REALLLLLLLLLLLL
factory that clogs at random time would stress me more than one that can run indefinitely
but your aic looks like 15x+15x+30x²+40x something like that
i also have avoided any unnecesary complications with sewage cuz i just refine coprium at the spot that its needed for the amount i need (full speed productions only)
i call it a glorified planting unit, a waste of space
then further refine it into sand where i need it
go big or go home
there are some really good compact blueprints
also sewage is abundant
we are gambling babyyy
why is my factory a quadratic equation buhr
some i did made myself having 2 xiranite productions together, compact enough.(while also giving a surplus of 60/min sandleaf into depot.. which is used in the battery making)
then there is the one i found in this server with 3x of them, Very compact and useful.
if my originum lines is already at peak, nothing I do with sewage would matter anyway
you all have 25 depot buses and 2 depot ports but still choose not to use buses bru
15x+15x+30x²+40x instead of just 70x+30x²
nevermind
you all don't need 2 expanded to make xircon
I make 60/min line xircon
be thankful the power savers arent here 
im guessing this is the half xircon reactor
ye
it's kinda overkill
ngl i find it objectively worse than the full xircon
yes but it gets me good sleep at night
Right, the only thing thats good about it is it takes up a smaller footprint
like it makes so much more sense to make a full unit that produces battery at maximum efficiency, and then just duplicate the unit around, rather than having a whole unit thats twice as big and producing twice as much battery
like what if at some point you only want 1 single battery unit?
what if at some point you desperately need the forges so much that you decide only to make batteries using only 2 crucibles?
you would have to rewire the whole factory to accomodate for that
with my setup I could just turn off 3 crucibles
with 1 just for hxira
no rewiring needed
not that tragic as you picture it
I'd gladly rewrite whole factory while waiting for boring another ages
and im happy with this one 
this forge is basically at the perfect position
cuz i did went crazy enough to shut down one of my xircon productions (out of two full speed ones, 60/min total)
it's easy to redo entire AIC tho
a normal/heavy switch config
💀
no I don't like doing that
for the jade event, it was just all about moving one of the forges for extra H-xiranite using the purifier at half-ish speed

i still produce more than enough batteries to keep everything in line and even can uncap batteries still while uncapping jades
it gets boring after a while, you just want to get it done with and you desperately try to delay it
imagine when switching depots and 1 thing left and making it coging
skill issue
only issue is overcapping originium but that will have to wait until event ends and we get the supposed payout for extra jades 😂
im more of the overclocker/minmaxer type, i dont need a fail safe if i understand the limits
all that space xd
not me
damn
good for ya ig
playing this game is now just maintainance and a 9 to 5 UPS delivery job for me
I like the idea of transferring physical stuff through the crucible to the another crucible
yup, it has extra inputs and outputs for a reason
altho i still wait for the time we actually get to use the other ones from the planting and seed units <,<
Unfortunately only one type of item can be output
oh damn nvm i can just make it rn
you just put hetonite thru a fitting a gearing unit
💀
wait wait
I think mine is different
they're all making direct xircon
I HAVE A SEVERE CASE OF BLINDNESS
that's what ive been saying 😭
independently
indeed
your graph implies 2 things go to one 1 thing

im killing myself fr
when a lot converger or splitter used for single line it will delay
it was for another person, they're asking how 5 regular reactor translates to 2 expanded reactor
well we will be able to make bats in single crucible in 2 days
Hey hikarin
Quick question
Do you know if prio convergers work with item control ports
there's was video dedicated to that question
like control port instead of splitters?
Wait should I use the three or there is two I don’t remember aic in the valley?
And what for what like what aic for what
what
what?
Yeah trying smt to compress my designs
if you meant Sub AIC or Core AIC
Both
there's 3 sub
Ohhh
And what there point?
The sub I can use for power?
So now its starting to make senseeeee
Starting to realize all the shit im making use way too much space so i have to do smt about it 
What am I even reading
any one you would like
by doing tutorials?
but like how i launch it
sub or core whichever you like
there's literally no difference between core and sub
Power are all interconnected and share under 1 power grid
You click the Launch game button on the launcher
Yes but you need to use one of them for power grind right?
power grind?
Like doing more power for the main aic
kinda? the splitter still wins
w/o splitter it just round robins
oh you mean adding fuels to thermal banks?
Oh so it doesnt
Screw me i guess 
What if you switch the splitter and the thingy?
u mean delicate 1 sub aic for power factory?
you can make battery to fuel thermal or directly connect into originium port
Yesss so this how you get more power for your main aic doing from the sub aic the power
Yes
I recommend making battery
same
Shame
Splitters dont allow me to stick stash right next to it so i either have to go 1 over or 1 up 
hetonite clogged and everything died lmao had to destroy bunch of hetonite to get things back on track

no xiranite to spare to make hetonite component?
instead of making parts, i see
thats some salt farm if i see one
😂
I am done with making fangyi gear idc about hetonite component
jade gourd
but your xiranite
is 30/m enough
all my hetonite was redirected to gourd making
1d11hrs left
but your xiranite is at max...
I am done with the event a few days ago so
you have more than enough space for parts tho, which you can sell later
but 🤷
not my mistake
yeah that was a miss on my part which led to this funny incident

oh boi, i didnt even saw that
its worse than i thought xd
guess its my clue of enough endfield dc for today xd
xiranite being at max has been the least of my worries really
yeah, your biggest worry is needing to delete items or things would go to a halt 
i think your temp solution should be to make hetonite parts then if the parts is full transfer manually to valley4
also the normal xiranite can be make for tier 1 event gourd
solution is literally making anything, but nah... dumping in a lake
I wasn't sending any hetonite to storage before event.
or can also just transfer the hetonite itself to valley4 temporary
I removed my fitting machine for the event
the event item dont take the full line of hetonite normally so u can make it half for each event and part
yea
I could
but it is what it is
funny moment

which happened due my negligence
i hope next region they give us a something similar to cuprium-sewage, but there's an extra byproduct
and you gotta keep using all 3 or your factory will clog
which of these two would yall say is better for sandleaf?
hope we get more cuprium in new area. We need full efficiency hetonite
right
interesting config on left, right one is better since it takes less space
that was my first build but it took too much space in wuling so i tried to make it smaller lol
well personally i like them separately
i just cant bother with it
Meanwhile
endfield looks a little different
bruh stop getting AIC from temu
Not the Sandleaf again 😭
So many sandleaf
Save a stash 
I thought that's what we are doing now, sharing sandleaf design
I personally build it closer to the production lines and want it on instead
Ma eyes
we need to petition to give us back our flowers
i like my leaf shredded
hmm i wonder if we can make a base out of chen icon
bro making a piano
this much offsite sandleaf shredding is insane
imagine the unloaders to use all that 
it fits 10 forges and batteries. sadly 2 line still get unused
holy unloading
Is it only me or you barely have space to make batteries after you set up the whole factory the produce the lvl2 gourb (the event item)
just u ig
Ugh I don’t want to change the whole layout
are you not making it in marker stone
No…
my main base is half empty still and I can't even build anything else
there's space. for starters, are you making xiranite using yazhen or jincao?
you need A LOT of things to run the event item optimally
My thing reduced to this
And half of that process needs to be in marker stone
Ok but that’s like the end, the assembly part
since the biggest space usage is xiranite forges, what do those look like for you?
U probably don't need 2 of each tho
this could be further reduced if you put fillin units vertical
i HAVE space in core AIC but i have no facility space
The whole process of making heavy xiranite consumes a lot of space
maybe is because am using all the forges?
he probably has 12/min heavy xiranite input
that doesnt reduce anything but i have no need for the rest of the vertical space so might as well use it
so I need to have like 10 seed planting units
then kick those splitters and bridges
good chunk of hub is taken by 7 of those and i dont mind:
you can use all forges and still have plenty of space, it's just matter of being space efficient. you can post your forge setups and maybe we can provide some advice to save space. or you can just ask for bp
i should move my originium production to marker stone after event
Give me some time the pc is turning on lol
for what?
is there acode to get produce gold armor material?
forges
hmm. that really depend on u then. if u want xiranites on main then ye
holy unloaders
How do you take a picture of your whole base?
multiple pic and stitch them together
So this what everyone doing?
Begging the devs for more protocol space
Like doing one factory for power?
no
I mean you could, don't have to. I'm not
pls i need gold gear but i hate the factory
there must be an alternative
I use sub 3 factory for power
Everyone does it? Using one sub for power tho?
you need different blueprints and connect them
Everyone plays differently, I just have a big section in my main aic dedicated to power for my factory
do you have those blueprints i could use❤️
you are just beginner mostly use main aic for everything
there maybe in #1461542035617091681
ah ty
I have a lot of money tho
just look up kyostinv's work if you don't like anything you find in blueprints
donate to the broke
lol si. I should make one sub for power and then I can do a big big aic?
yeah
Okkkk
which video should i watch for best factory and primarily to have gold gear material being made
personally I prefer dedicating a sub to only xiranite
dog did you even look all that much its the 1st thing 🥀
Blueprints code:
Asia:
Wuling 1: (EFO0101O36708ai90E179)
Wuling 2: (EFO01A7u1e4A6UE769ieO)
Wuling 3: (EFO017i89AE70e54eO2Ai)
Wuling 4: (EFO01eAo0UOeai4uuoui8)
Wuling 5: (EFO01u8U4o6u230U8AeOU)
Wuling 6: (EFO012O9A5u2UE8E3e3Oo)
MS SubAIC: (EFO017i89AE70e5a8O0Ai)
JV SubAIC: (EFO017i89AE70e5a5O8Ai)
JV AF...
reversed for me
😔 sry
cuz xiranite takes most of the space
my Xiranite farm is so compact though, a sub is overkill
I made a sub entirely for battery and then copy pasted everything to the main aic
Whats the dimensions of it?
and the empty space is for temporary builds
you can do random stuff if you know what you're doing. i made soupsoup compress originium and grow some plants. no pattern behaviour
Less than 2 Days 
so only the right 2/3
you're making carbon offsite? Makes sense yours is compact then.
ah yeah, i guess people do the all in one planter seeder
makes sense to dedicate a sub pac i guess if you use half of it for just carbon
the advantage of xiranite sub is that you don't need to change it as much since xiranite is basically raw material, will still need to produce even when HCW batts become available. the main downside of xiranite sub is that you're not leveraging the depot sections of the sub, tho it's not like you need every last unloader slot
I made this for myself albeit I could compact it down a tiny bit, though I mostly like it for the modularity and flexibility of placement
you only need 2 sandleaf lines for 3 forges
yeah modularity is king. I dont mind demolishing my base because everything in it is completely modular
Yeah I'm aware, but I lose the modularity aspect which I said I like
I made the xiranite part of the build in like a square space so if I need to remove the stuff around it for some reason I can
optimizing sandleaf is pointless
power
I see you Chinop-sensei 
its too easy to farm the flower
how about think it like a 3 forges module
which is the smalleast optimal for now
yes
if you dont mind bridges that is
well he has an entire extra sandleaf loop so facility side is equal ish. for power it's + 50
Btw, that unavoidable protrusion is why i hate including planter seeder in my modular projects. Doesnt it irk you that they dont fit nicely in a rectangle
always the little U shape bumps
Actually works fine, they are positioned to where you can place them with a 1 tile overlap
yeah it's a little annoying
you can match remote shredding and consumption, splitting the 2. power saved, all you lose is some depot space
But yeah I get you, I'm a sucker for rectangles too
yeah see, god so satisfying
btw if it's troublesome, you can just post multiple screenshots, not mandatory to stitch lol
Or you can import it to enkad
enkad?
A site for this thingy
its a website that lets you design AIC factory setups and calculate the requirements for them
oh
ferium is pretty low here
how good it works on mobile tho
No idea, first time I heard of it and I just looked it up
trying to figure out a way to maximize heronite liquids and make it look neat but its a project and a half.
even on PC its annoying to use
Yeah that'll happen
i use it during work when i cant play endfield (lol)
wait water treatment unit can take 3 pipes?
Water treatment is pretty 1:1 with producers
ah yes
1 pump do power 2 refining unit though, but thats probably common knowledge
Wulings plants making 2 plants per seed and 2 carbon per plant isn't common enough knowledge so who knows man
does the ingame xiranite tutorial use carbon plants? kinda sad if it doesn't
I only found out about it when I saw the thing overloaded
But I was only using it at first because it takes less space
Ill try it out rq
not so great
The answer is no, you work with pre-refined carbon
Plant tutorial doesn't really highlight the 2 plant per seed thing, its there I guess
You can't edit on mobile yet I think
Thx, I need to go to work so I’ll have to deal with my lack of power later
so i've been running this system at about half speed, and the purifier on the right has acid seems to be overflowing with acid
i'm kinda puzzling why
expanded crucible that rightside puriunit is feeding is not getting sufficient cuprium powder, meaning it cannot consume the acid fast enough. in fact, with your setup, if there is enough cuprium, that right-side puriunit will not provide enough acid to the expanded crucible


holy feedback
Guh
@craggy oyster I think this is ready, can't find any more room for improvement
sorry i misread
I used Manifolds in case we get lots of effluent from the Test Area
the theorycraft is that the crucible should have 30 acid in and 30 culprium powder in, so if everything runs at 3/4 speed it should still balance out
but i don't know what makes it imbalance
i'm not totally sure what's the cause but this belt is not 3/4 full of cuprium powder
hmm, i mean, if everything runs at the same speed it should still balance out right?
try to make everything into a single purification unit
i did some fillin. i tried to move the sandleaf up but it take too much facilities.idk if it can fit
actually scratch that, didn't know that it needs 2 even though I build too
Yeah this is better than adding Chen Loops 
I tried swapping the farms - didn't work. It looks more unsymmetrical to the bridge below 
if +30 facility, u think it'll fit?
i saw several variants of hetonite blueprints, i think some of them would have acid stuck in the loop and some doesn't
not entirely sure why
To the 512 limit? I think nope 
I wanted to add separation and filling units for bottling liquids
then make it higher by like 5 row + 7 for sandleaf on top, i can reduce it to about + 15 20
ohh
then that cant fit then
do we have any datamine bout how much stock u need to upgrade test area node?
yes/no answer still good enough
havent seen any yet
We have nothing, as far as I know
Im glad i dont feel the need to fill every empty space with belts
chen loops is an epidemic
phoebe too 
this is the 1st time i see ppl have that need ngl.
I think at least one of the purification units needs 2 tubes of coprium solution going in
Just me and my OCD
Everyone else builds it for funsies
all the culprium solution are collected by a single pipe going through 4 reactors so that should work, I think
Im gonna make more guide and scare newbie away 


(it's also possible that this whole thing already works i'm just seeing temporary overflow though .. hmm)
pretty sure every tube moves only 2 liquids at once so since the recipe needs 4 the machine can't keep up
Have you seen mine?
nope
drop
this is just randomly chaos
Compact 
u can usse less conduit tho
purr only take 1 liquid. it safe to use conduit
1:1
why not link from the source?
Like you can't link 2 small conduit inlets to a single conduit outlet manifold
Its how I got this screenshot 
U can do something like that tho
I am clueless lol
i cant believe this is how they show ppl thier base setup after introducing conduits and manifoid
fkin McDonald CEO shinenigan again 


If it works it works
wait, acid goes to a purifier?
cup solution -> heto solution +axit
non top view makes it extra confusing
that's output axit not input
btw
it kinda weird when we extracting yellow from red to get orange lol
it supposed to be the other way around
why wouldnt they merge the 2 acid lines then. . .confusing
atleast merge it sooner rather than at the crucible
Just at the end
and 2 seperate exit pipes
it's to add extra pipe volume to make it look harder
AZ meant that maybe they coulve merged it to a single line
just another prove that dev dont play the game 


you got a bigger picture of it?
trying to parse recipes before 1.2 release from livestream was super confusing until I finally realized that literally any solid item in reactor is just represented by blue color
Is that not water..oh
got stuck for a couple days not really sure what was going on lol
i mean ferrium is blue
that reactor shouldnt be making hetonite at all
yeah idk then, its not water and if its not hetonite then it can't really be anything else
if you look ingame at your cuprium dissolution reactors, you will see that the cuprium powder is represented by blue
so is the solid form of xiranite and heavy xiranite
yes
no one replied to my question/hypothesis but eventually it was clearly the only explanation
I've never really looked into it
What would better represent items in it
probably make it opaque and some other dedicated color
I subconsciously assumed items would be represented by their signature color, like green for xiranite or red for cuprium powder
could also use like a powder texture instead of a liquid one
i would think its a mix of the colors
black opaque is enough
what if we literally start mining for oil though
up till
for xircon and hetonite its like crystilization, where the liquid is oversaturated. whats the ingame description of the process?
Ig its too much unnecessary work to have different colors for items which they would need to specifically tag every item a color thats only used in reactor
Still, would've been nice for at bare minimum a powder texture instead of liquid
couldnt you attached that tag into the reactor?
most of the time noone looks at those and they are broken anyways
The tag is basically other:blue
accept item #1345, output green on tube 4
Well, I don't think it's ridiculous that items are still represented as liquids. When you put put item into reactor, if it's something you are actually using, there's a certain implication that you are liquifying it to react with other reagents
and that does explain the color choice of blue since that is probably water
ignore acid
I mean it wouldn't make sense for hetonite, where there is no water
maybe you could still headcanon it but yea it's a bit rough
Probably the 2nd and bottom two
no clue why both juices have same color but they do
Hetonite is displacement reaction I think
should be deposition
generic recipes use 1 water per 2 sec
pump gets me 1 water per 1 sec
how is it that when I connected 2 pumps to water network only one of them works
and there are 5 processes going on
2nd one is clogged
and everything works fine
I cant redesign my xiranite to include built in farms without losing all symmetry for when i pair 2 together 
That or i gotta completely rebuild my base around them...
pump 1water/s
Process: 1water/2s -> 0.5 water/s
1 pump = 2 processes
u doing all in one base ?
oh forgot to say i have 5 processes connected
Trying to. I figured why not since the last design i could fit in all 7 lines
I wanted to try and get rid of a couple of my 15x15 sandleaf farms
nah smt seem off here. maybe u miscount smt
try x3 forges on each side.
4 to crus in the middles then down to purrification to the h.xir forges. the last 2 forge go the h.xir aswell
then xircon of 4 crus run into 2 bats
it could be that the 5 processes consuming water aren't at full uptime
stockpiles low, had to switch back down from 12 h-xira 😮💨
but maybe there is still time for another burst in about 20 hours
this is my old main
Im waiting til I cap heavy xir and then go full blast. Half way there lol
or u could use a smt smtx 16 single forge build. that should fit exactly 5 lines , and then 2 lines eachside . that's pretty symetrical too
just remember that the outposts need time to recover their currency after you deliver a shipment
though to be fair, not sure if this applies to the event altruism-funbucks too
Oh Im using all of it for something else. I'm capped on bills right now
and the event store? all bought out?
No, the only thing of interest was the oroberyls
based on personal observation, I think every solid item defaults to blue
not sure tho
I am certain that is the case
I was just reposting my initial query about it from a month ago lol
lol
what the best ratio for making both SCW and LCW at the same time?
they're not wrong with this one tho. this is just the standard hetonite line 😭
12/min scw batteries + ~1.65/min lcw batteries via dense ori meta
why not make sc with meta transferred originium
they wanted to make both sc and lc at the same time
otherwise it would've been ~13/min scw
nope, im producing every items in the game. im currently moving on to high tier wuling stuff.i actually need more LCW than SCW. extra xir can turn into xir related liquid and fill in all bottles
why do u need lc wuling
im producing every items in the game
just for coll3ction habit
V4 bat are full now
Ope. Right after i got done bitching, i got a stroke of inspiration and dipped before seein this lol. Noice build, bb
This is what i ended up with for my integrated build
Kinda looks like a fan blade now that im really lookin at it.
hmm. might aswell run a fake belts on the right side and fake pipes all around th build if u have some facilities count left
how long will it take to produce 20k gourd? do i still have time left before event ends?
2,5days with 6/min production
very tight spot u in right now. if u have 8 forges and u know what u doing, u can make it with 12jg/min set up in 27-28h
That is.. if you have plenty of scw
That's with manual labor
doing the ev is also manual labor ig
scw?
Oh
Sc wuling battery
when does the event ends?
The tier 2 one
i think i have 12-20k in stock?
Oooh that's fine then
depend on ur server
asia
31h asia and 43h EU i think
but i dont have time to fix my factory until later..
If you have heavy xyranite saved up you can run higher than 12/min to cut the time down
I was gonna see how they fit into a cluster before i add any beautifying bits. Thats gonna happen afta work
If im lucky, i can turn the aic into a flower lol
a flower made out of burnt flowers
Well thats 100x deeper than i intended. I love it
Is it cheap if I have only this production for these 2 components? It'll take a long while before it even reaches 60k
Given how few you end up using (unless you artifice), it works
I've been starting to artifice a lot
Well. Might be worth investing in a 100% factory then
60k... Man you only need like 5k
Maybe 10k
10k is good enough I think
u only should produce what u use. soon there's be new product need to make anyway. unless u are a hoarder lol
Aren't we all hoarders?
not really
Xiranite component>cupium component>>>hetonite component in term of amount needed for artificing (dont use heto for artificing lol)
Anyways, 10k components only mean 200 equipment made, I think it's good enough, lol
Yep
If I gather around 20k it should last until the next country, at least
I made 20k xiranite and cupium component from the last patch and i still have like 16k xiranite ones
I really want to see what they make of Seš'qa
Helppp, is this the max yield
no. which region is this for?
Wuling
max is 480
12
Damn
u probably miss this one
Freak, Am keep delaying my rework. I need to do it right now.
go upgrade everything, you can see what you need to upgrade RDL in the bottom right of RDL menu
current ferrium yield is 90 right?
why tf is my keyboard white
who tf did that
this is criminal
who tf did this
this is a crime
i will find a way to give whoever did this some acute oripathy
bro it's your phone?
did u intentionally make it white then?
anyways

yeah its fine
I decided to be lazy bum, instead of attempting redesign of 7 forge subaic into 6+3, am just going to put forges 8 and 9 into other sub
maybe ill slow down the parts to 24
When are we getting more forge?
may 14
how big is each module?
i mean each singke module
ic
i designed it to be like that
I'm thinking of just not bothering with 10+2 since have huge scw stockpile anyway, and hxira got seriously depleted during this event
thats certainly a solution
so the main pac is 80x80?
60+13+what looks like 7?
ya
smaller than i thought...
Man this game is really spying on my finals date because every single factory update has been on my finals week
just lock in and do both
Idk man 2 months worth of wages in tuition fees seems kinda scary
just drop it for the time
not like you don’t have time to do the event or something
Sorry is is a dumb question but how yoy can screenshot the whole base (specially if is the biggest one)
i screeshot parts of it and stitched them together
its editted
how to stitch
Shouldn't be to bad, i still have like 40k jade gourd that will convert to bills
un 4 2 nat
we got excess shit?
my bills are barely being drained
I have 12 jade/m rn
microslop paint
interesting
btw,how many xira recipes we got
i got an extra 30 xira lay around
6 xira, 2 heavy, and purification unit making scw with the inert
ig ill just make gourds
Still have yet to find a setup for my AIC, not a single blueprint in the blueprint channel for making buck capsule B super fast, I mean it's crazy I've went afk for 3 days and came back and have a total of 9 sc battery's
And nothing else to show for it what am I doing wrong here
Because no one makes buck B lol
You use buck C until you can make buck A
The ferrium is better used on battery
whatre you doing...
I mean people did at one point tho so I'm just really surpised there's no BPs. Bevause I'm trying to be able to sell something so that I can level up my outpost and idk about you man but uh
Buck capsule c sells for 3
I ain't making shit off that xd
Which is SC
That's your main income
💀 skull
u did it wrong then
Enlighten me
show us your aic
Btw I just dropped 2 thermal banks to try and shorten the use of them bevayse I did have steel parts being made for I guess future use? Idk what they're for but uh yeah. One sec I gotchu
I use this USA/EU - EFO010U96u1o45i2OE179
steel parts are for HC (highest tier) battery in valley 4
Well I guess atleast i was preparing for 3 to 5 days now lmfao
...
you dont have to sell because youre burning it all
i see...
Tyty
So instead of thermal banks I should just put a protocol stash there
Might need to use a whole factory to refine stuff like copper, amethist and ferrium
if you divide these by 5 you get
2 ferrium parts
3 originium dust
Which means in order for the packaging to work at full efficiency you need to supply it with stable
2 inputs of ferrium parts
3 inputs of originium dust
yours about 1 ferrium and 1 orginium short
so you packaging isnt runn at full efficiency
but you said you only got 9 sc battery
which can be a material shortage
Well I had 4 thermal banks going XD halved it to 2 just a couple mins ago so idk what to really do
because even with the missing inputs you still should be able to make 3 batteries/min with that setup
oh okay
me 4 forgesky can produce 1 heavy without puri xD
fix your setup then...
i mean sure we can do that too
I would like help yes I domt really know what to do or setup I tried my best and well it didn't work
but if we're guiding him now will he learn
trust
just add more input and swap some of the output to a proto stash
so first like ive mentioned
this formula requires 2 inputs of ferrium parts and 3 inputs of originium dust into one packaging unit. Can you do that for me ?


