aic-factory

[keen river]

👍

[foggy horizon]

is 12 jade gourds /min possible without manually giving batteries for power?

it isnt right

[keen river]

well

you can burn all the originum raw to begin with

that should give you like 2k power

and then just transfer some batteries from valley 4

if you dont want to make any wuling batteries for now

[foggy horizon]

transfers are manual though, no?

[keen river]

ye, but they are super fast

you can transfer like 80k in 5 minutes

[foggy horizon]

so still not possible technically

for full auto

[keen river]

well

you only need to burn like 1-2 batteries / min

so anything you transfer will last you super long time

and event ends in 4 days anyway

[stable nexus]

does someone a blueprint for me i could use for the event? just starting out

[keen river]

do you have anything setup?

from previus patch etc

[stable nexus]

i am uptodate 1.2 patch

im making extra xiranite , i thinkg thats nessecary for that ye?

[keen river]

well, as long as you are making heavy xiranite and hetonite already

[stable nexus]

ye

[keen river]

then just plop any of ready-made blueprints and its probably enough

[stable nexus]

do i have to deactivate my hetonite component factory ?

[keen river]

#1502725193758412821 message or anything from #1500977084678279208 message

[south rover]

are your aic/building level 3 size?

[keen river]

probably not, base hetonite production should be like 24/min but you realistically can only make 12 heavy xira/ min

[stable nexus]

ehm like the expansion? of my post?

[keen river]

just siphon enough from it to match heavy xira production

and thats about it

[south rover]

yes

[stable nexus]

ye all max

[keen river]

you probably want to increase this to match heavy xira tbh

hm

[stable nexus]

uff

[south rover]

oh like amelek said any and all blueprints will work then

[keen river]

i wonder how many gourds you need to produce right now 🤔

[stable nexus]

i making like 1 cmponent per min , i can just deactivate it no?

[keen river]

yeah

just turn it off and connect belt to the gourd production

[stable nexus]

no idea

[keen river]

realistically not a lot i guess

[stable nexus]

gotta find space to place ts first 😮‍💨

[keen river]

you only need 6 808 gourds as far as i can tell

ah no

[stable nexus]

sounds alot

[keen river]

40 850

🤔

[stable nexus]

lowk all the space i got

[keen river]

so realistically

assuming you do 7 gourds / min from now on

you should be able to buy everything in shop

except for the bonus money

[stable nexus]

im not making 12 tho

[keen river]

thats way above what you will need

yeah i mean, thats fine

[stable nexus]

hm ok

lemme try

[keen river]

just go for 6/min setup

ie. just one set of factories

you might miss on some useless crap like operator xp items or whatever, but it should be enough to buy all relevant stuff

realistically all you will need

this should fit easily

and then siphon all heta and xira into it

[stable nexus]

but i dont have the bottle yet

i need to produce this rn

[keen river]

ym

do you? 🤔

[stable nexus]

what does that mean?

[keen river]

doesnt the quest unlock automatically to the second part?

[stable nexus]

na they jsut told me to produce this

ig i need to produce atleast 1

to progress quest

[keen river]

i guess, well, just make it

its super easy

[craggy oyster]

actually a lot

[keen badge]

Sprint to the finish 🫰🫰🫰

[craggy oyster]

u need to get certain event point with that to unlock 2nd part tho

im not sure how much

[stable nexus]

hm

[keen river]

the t1 gourds chain is just this

grab xiranite from depo, put it to moulding and fitting units, then connect into packaging unit

and its done

[keen river]

well, most of us were done with part 1 by the time part 2 arrived, so we would never know what actually unlocks it after

[craggy oyster]

someone said in the chat

[stable nexus]

this kioo guy be deleting whole outpost just to build phase 1 smh

[craggy oyster]

kyosinV?

[keen river]

also note that

[stable nexus]

ye

[keen river]

you only really need to buy those

everything else is quite eeh

[stable nexus]

true , rest doesnt matter

[keen river]

yeah

[shadow hound]

Will certs be converted to anything after the event?

[keen river]

not that im aware of

extra gourds should be converted to normal certs, but the altriums certs no idea

[stable nexus]

but do i not need alot of these bottle in the firs tplace so they can be used for phase 2 ?

[craggy oyster]

reduce to atom

[keen river]

no, you dont

[stable nexus]

ok

[keen river]

phase 1 and phase 2 chains dont have anything in common

just do phase 1 until quest progresses i guess

[craggy oyster]

yes just do only so u can unlock 2nd quest and unlock the jade gourd. and start from there

[stable nexus]

alr

[craggy oyster]

damn now that i see

it actually nice for co op

so ppl can come guide other in thier base

[stable nexus]

kinda sad

[south rover]

i dont really get the umbral monument event like when it ends does the entire thing shut down or does it stay?

[craggy oyster]

it permanent

just add new stage from time to time ig

[south rover]

ah ok i was confused due to the fact that it has a timer

[keen river]

timer is only for this

[craggy oyster]

the timer is for the rewards

[keen river]

basically you get the extra rewards if you clear it before 12 days

you still get those rewards if you clear it any time later

[vocal jackal]

am i doin anything wrong? why isnt is producing heavy xiranite...

[vast iron]

have you unlocked the recipe in the tech tree

[shadow hound]

well they be converted to a cap, or will they just go over the cap for a day? Stock bills, I mean. I wanna know how many I should have saved up. Right now, selling them seems pointless because it'll just drain the outposts.

[craggy oyster]

did u do quest and unlock the fomular?

[keen river]

make sure you get this

rightmost thing in wuling aIC III tree

[vast iron]

"raise the limit to +4" just noticed this

[vocal jackal]

i cant see this option there have everything unlocked tho

[craggy oyster]

thousands of xirlost /h then

[vast iron]

god translation or sm

[vocal jackal]

but i havent unlocked AIC III

[vast iron]

you have to progress the main quest to unlock the 3rd tier to the wuling aic, yeah

[keen river]

its this

you might need to progress story yeah

[vocal jackal]

well damn thanks

[keen badge]

Can we exepect more Wuling tiers in the tech tree? (hoping for another bump for the "Forge of the Sky" facility)

[keen river]

heavy xira was part of qingbo upgrade iirc

[craggy oyster]

yes

[vast iron]

itl be 12 in like a few days

[craggy oyster]

next update literally act 4

[keen river]

or was it marker stone 🤔

im not sure

[craggy oyster]

+4 forges

[vast iron]

marker stone

+4*

*4

[keen river]

4 more forges when new map unlocks in like 4 days, yeah

and i guess we will get more tiers since its unlikely we are done with wuling

[craggy oyster]

probably 5

for 5 maps

[vast iron]

since forges are getting more uses besides xiranite its quite likely, yeah

[craggy oyster]

unless we have 4 + outposts

[keen badge]

An entirely new map segment? O.O
Typically that comes with version upgrades
A different approach this time?
Anyway +4 forges sound nice but probably won't arrive in time to help making gourds 😅

[vast iron]

yeah the livestream specified this area will be unlocked later

no clue why but

thats just how it is, i gues

[craggy oyster]

we deal with aftermath of the lastest boss fight

and we go to the 4th map to do it

[keen river]

you can already see new map too, if you look toward the sea from monitoring center

[craggy oyster]

aparently that area got swarmed with blight and mix with sewages

[keen badge]

liiiike now we go for a counter push now that the Blight receded somewhat from the Wuling outskirts? 🤔

[keen river]

its going to be that black blob

[vast iron]

ah yes... the consequences of our actions

who wouldve guessed

[keen river]

no idea why it got delayed till 14th may

maybe they wanted more content to be spread since this version is super long

[vast iron]

true

[craggy oyster]

probably. just like how we do in the 1st act

[vast iron]

tho this ver isnt really a filler path

i hope they release more aic content tho

[craggy oyster]

it would be kinda bland if just +4 forges and some more resources

[keen river]

i dont expect new map to have some major story progress tbh

it seem to be more like bunch of puzzles and some bonus to factory

[keen badge]

switched things up to give myself a boost, making 12x jade gourds / min
but the xiranite supply should dry up in ~18 hours(ish) 😮‍💨
then I'll have to switch gears back

[vast iron]

"puzzles" in a gacha game arent really puzzles

[keen river]

@keen badge https://www.youtube.com/live/tMFGowIF8eA?si=f_vTl2bZ2VeC0vnS&t=1951

[vast iron]

well ig endfield puzzles are among the better ones

[craggy oyster]

meh

pretty average to me

[river wadi]

puzzles are essentially just "how good can you see"

there is rarely any actual thinking

[vast iron]

i mean the block puzzles have some complexity

besides that

ehh

[craggy oyster]

for some ppl, how much u willing to read lol

[vast iron]

new technique: create puzzle out of thin air cuz you skipped the story

[craggy oyster]

adn then be clueless about how to solve it cuz u skip the tut

and the general guide is too vague

[keen river]

well

at least the robot tetris puzzles are pretty enjoyable

i mean, its not some BluePrince tier complexity but still enjoyable

[craggy oyster]

it kinda annoying sometime

[keen river]

wuling didnt have too many puzzles unlike valley 4 i feel

[vast iron]

ball

🔥

[keen river]

it was mostly spraying xiranite at random highlighet things

and the occasional remember where to jump puzzle i guess

[craggy oyster]

ye i enjoy v4 more

the electricity stuff

wuling really a let down in that department

[keen river]

so i hope the new map will have at least some of that

shall see

[craggy oyster]

i feel like they all in for the AIC that map design was lacklusted

[vast iron]

i mean i feel like if you had to drag wires in every area the casuals will be annoyed

[craggy oyster]

ah no

[keen river]

valley had a lot of different puzzles and puzzle types

[craggy oyster]

i mean those round thingy u need to connecct power to so can turn on and off electric grid to enter certain area

[vast iron]

i mean if youre talking abt the electric connection things

theres pumps

they need power

to empty the pools and shi

[craggy oyster]

connecting power is a pain

lucky we dont have to do it in wuling

[keen river]

drug fog stuff with landbreakers, moving the boxes to get footing, robot puzzles, moving crates to get access, rotating and moving the whole mining crane to get access to places

[craggy oyster]

lol that pool confused so many ppl

[keen river]

a lot of those in various places

[vast iron]

*i dont do pumps i just empty the pools manually with bottles

[craggy oyster]

they didnt expect an overnight wait puzzle

and they keep asking how to do it

[keen river]

😅

probably plenty of people did that part manually

[vast iron]

just have more pumps smh

[keen river]

which is extra pain because the bottle filling gui is super trash

[vast iron]

the 40k pool???????

the smaller ones arent that bad

[keen river]

im 1000% sure at least few people did that manually

[vast iron]

~40-80 bottle interactions

[keen river]

i just used bunch of pumps and come next day

i have manually drained half of the 400 sewage pool in quingbo tho

[vast iron]

it was 800

[keen river]

was less effort than dragging the power there

[vast iron]

i drained it manually

too

[keen river]

and you could access the box at like 400 or so anyway

[vast iron]

sunk cost fallacy ngl

[keen river]

left rest in place

[vast iron]

well it wouldve taken a pump like 10 minutes to drain it anyways

[craggy oyster]

well i used pumps and some tanks

then go do normal dailies stuff

[vast iron]

the fact you can stash a tank and delete 500 units of liquid is a godsend ngl

[craggy oyster]

Yeah

[keen badge]

some more fluffing around
~18,5 hrs of xiranite supply
assumig nothing goes wrong, 12/min production will yield ~13,2k jade gourds

• the 15,2k already in the pocket makes the total supply ~28,5k in ~18,5 hours from now
  120 funbucks / jade gourd = 3,4M
  with still 75 hrs left to make more
  I hope I got that right... 😴

Yep, if this checks out then I think I can clear out the store after this production sprint
With 75 hrs to spare if something goes akimbo and production halts

[stable nexus]

alr got it working thx for the help

[upper fiber]

seems like my heavy xira won't last till last hour

[craggy oyster]

yup

[fluid fog]

time to revert back all my AIC factory to standard state.

I have so many Jade gourd XD

[keen badge]

Gourdpocalyptic 😅

[mortal hemlock]

can i still obtain the gourd medal after the exchange event has ended

[stable zodiac]

im half way getting the acid back to my base with conduit and ran out of protocol capacity, welp no acid for wuling city it is

[vast iron]

just dont use conduits

pipes are a seperate limit

[stable zodiac]

im awared but im just not feeling having all of the sky pipe in the city, gonna keep the chubby lung view for the people man

i tried hard enough for not having any ground zipline already

i guess its my fault to fully setup the eco farm

sigh

[upper fiber]

struggle time....

[craggy oyster]

no ..there literally a deadline

[upper fiber]

maybe next year...

[stable zodiac]

there a whole week for the medal tho...

[south haven]

is the factory planner website up to date?

[unreal laurel]

question

how are we doing afford to run 12forges

[south haven]

wuh just run them

[unreal laurel]

the space taken up by 3-4 more forges aint much

but what about the infrastructure that uses and supports it

if we produce more heavy,we'll need to double the effluent

and as far as i remember,the only spare effluent is from running double sc

where are we sourcing more effluent from

thats leads to, new fat crafting tree that has excess effluent

and theres also the question of what to do with the extra xiranite

overall, looks like alot of extra needed space to me

[south haven]

i forgot you can put conduits outside of the AIC

bruh

[humble rover]

Question about Sewage. I'm just getting into making the Hetonite and Xircon stuff and I see a slight issue. A backup of cuprium related products in my depot in order to maintain sewage production for my Xircon, which is also my goal for power in my base. How do I ensure that I can keep the sewage flowing without filling up my depot?

[tough berry]

1 cleaner per 1 sewage

[nova pilot]

Don't let your Hetonite, Hetonite Parts, and SC Wuling Batt reach the depot cap

[craggy oyster]

u use it to make smt else ofc

and then sell what u can sell

make cup gear or heto gear

[humble rover]

No I'm trying to make a closed loop system for the Xircon. Use the sewage it outputs and cycle it back around to make the effluent

[tough berry]

or just wait 4 days

[craggy oyster]

to burn some cup

[humble rover]

this has to be possible or else how does anyone use the SC Wuling batteries as power

[tough berry]

rhat cost more power

[craggy oyster]

ah yeah 1 xircon line need 1 sewage

[humble rover]

Ah I see

[nova pilot]

It's better to use the sewage output for another crucible

[tough berry]

while 1 xircon line of 15 produce 0.5 sewage

pretty much 60 xircon need 2 cleaner while using 4 cuprium line

[nova pilot]

Somehow I made this more cursed and complicated when I just want to insert some stashes

[craggy oyster]

niceee

im just scared they gonna change the opimal setup with every update tho

[nova osprey]

modular designs are going to become meta if so

maybe

[craggy oyster]

i pre build 6 forges one jungyu and then boom +4 forges render my build useless lol

[keen badge]

I keep forgetting that, in a roundabout way, you can transfer (even stockpile) fluids this way too 😅

[stable zodiac]

when is the 12 forge patch drop date tho

has it been annouced?

[craggy oyster]

14th

[nova pilot]

14

[stable zodiac]

i see, thanks

way too deep into these gourds lately

[upper fiber]

ofc it will, for optimal one

[orchid pilot]

the good thing is beyond a certain point, you can keep some things the same... once we reach 12 forge, just set the best 7forge jingyu design and forget

[upper fiber]

depend on if it will be 9+3 or 10+2

[orchid pilot]

even if it's 8+4, that's still 7 you can leave alone forever

[final sierra]

Hetonite 30/min compact perfection 🤩
(sadly expanded Cruciable version (img 1, 2) looks less perfect than just reactor based (img 4))

[craggy oyster]

yeah 7 forges is solid for a while unless overhaul formular change

[unreal laurel]

noted

[sterile stratus]

shoot i forgot about my heto

with my batteries and heto parts i'll drain tang2

poor girl won't get any rest

[south haven]

auughh

[mortal hemlock]

why is there a 9 day acquisition deadline for the medal when i checked via medals

[craggy oyster]

cuz that when the shop end. most shop event in games still run a few days after the event end so ppl can still have a chance to trade them

[mortal hemlock]

so i can still get the requirement until 9 days later for 20k gourds correct

[craggy oyster]

yes but u only have 4 days ish to make them

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Still have time to empty the shop also..
Just spam make the jade gourd..

[stable zodiac]

just make it now to save yourself headace

[craggy oyster]

wait a minute

[mortal hemlock]

hm

[craggy oyster]

it a trap

u need to submit 20k jg before the event end tho

[mortal hemlock]

i cant make it to consistent 6/min

[craggy oyster]

cuz after the event end u will have 0 jg to subbmit

all will be converted and u cant make more

[cyan forge]

[sterile stratus]

actually you can get like 16/min heavy xir if you switch forge constantly

[craggy oyster]

they give us a fake deadline lmao

[sterile stratus]

no leftover xir for anything else

[stable zodiac]

u already can run 12 without switching anything tho

switching is too much

[craggy oyster]

is there any blueprint cap?

like how many BP we can save

[final sierra]

umm ok XD

[sterile stratus]

bridge counter when

[mortal hemlock]

this is mine currently

[south haven]

yes

[craggy oyster]

if bother to make then just make all facility counter. why just bridge

[south haven]

idk what im doing

im just doing things

this isnt helping

fahh

[final sierra]

you just reached storage limit

[craggy oyster]

lmao

it as small as a pic

[south haven]

yes thank you for informing me

[mortal hemlock]

if i do 6/min for 2 days it should cover everything right

[craggy oyster]

what's everything u mean

[mortal hemlock]

i already sold 7k

[craggy oyster]

the shop?

[subtle finch]

light mode

[mortal hemlock]

im at 7k/20k

if i do 6/min consistently it should be able to cover like 8000 a day right

[craggy oyster]

yes plenty

[south haven]

what is sandleaf used for that doesnt mix with the main ores

[mortal hemlock]

[craggy oyster]

carbon stuff

[mortal hemlock]

hope this shit stays

tq

[south haven]

hm

[craggy oyster]

the fruit jelly thingy to make buck A

[craggy oyster]

delivery

that's it i think

[south haven]

you can directly use powder to delivery

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[subtle finch]

we respect sandleaf in this house

[south haven]

o oke

i apologize

[nova pilot]

There is

[craggy oyster]

T-The
A-Acient
L-land
O- Of
S-Sandleaf

[subtle finch]

[craggy oyster]

nooo why so little

[mortal hemlock]

the problem i checked was one punp was supplying yhree

so yeah

i hope

[nova pilot]

I bet half of those are for enkad

[final sierra]

TRUE :(

[upper fiber]

i think i will delete all my bp after update

[craggy oyster]

wait

if we delete but still keep the code

will it be save?

[south haven]

you guys use BPs?

its cooked isnt it

[upper fiber]

dunno, seem like the code can expired after update

[craggy oyster]

so that why i cant import my old BP to enkad

[atomic swan]

I've only used a single code, and it was just for the Xiranite comps.

[atomic swan]

Yikes

[nova pilot]

I never shared my symmetrical modular builds I tried for fun

[shut hearth]

Gah damn

[atomic swan]

You guys build in symmetry?

[craggy oyster]

ofc

[upper fiber]

no use in forced symmetry

[atomic swan]

I don't.

[final sierra]

yes, making own modular parts is very interesting :)

[nova pilot]

To make it a bit more challenging

[atomic swan]

I prefer focusing on essential.

[final sierra]

if possible yes, but more prefer compactness

[atomic swan]

Yeah, I like keeping stuff compact myself.

If the conveyor lane is too long or materials aren't coming through fast enough than I use them, I reduce production time.

[craggy oyster]

ye that pretty annoying

[nova pilot]

My ass tryna be compact and symmetrical

[craggy oyster]

my buck A need like 20s start up lol

[atomic swan]

Ouch

My Buck As took 8 seconds minimum

[craggy oyster]

u have pic?

[atomic swan]

I wish. Dismantled it after I made it in bulk.

I don't focus my factory in V4 anymore.

[craggy oyster]

i take pic of all my build that i satisfied with

incase smt wrong with code

[atomic swan]

Right now, just focusing on later materials in Wuling.

[valid gazelle]

finally it stablized itself

[atomic swan]

I set up a production line for Heavy Xiranite based on my Xircon production line. Works very efficiently and my Xiranite is still up to par.

[nova pilot]

Me and my poor naming sense:

[craggy oyster]

why no icons?

[atomic swan]

Eh, I don't do icons myself.

[valid gazelle]

i dont even have naming convention..

maybe i should

[nova pilot]

All in one parts

[atomic swan]

I mostly just name my blueprints based on the final product.

[craggy oyster]

yeah but still can make icon for them cuz u know which one make what right?

[final sierra]

at least half have icons and normal names 😅

[craggy oyster]

ugh it kinda chaotic

[atomic swan]

My memory is pretty good for when it comes to blueprints.

[nova pilot]

Will the BP with the event gourd icons be gone too?

Oh wait we can still edit

[craggy oyster]

no lol

[atomic swan]

The one thing I don't like with Wuling is how much power it takes just to keep all my machines going.

[craggy oyster]

it just lose the depot bus ig

nvm it still heavy xir

[atomic swan]

V4, I was maintaining a solid 3.6K power output, and in Wuling, I'm barely scratching 3K.

[craggy oyster]

we can still edit using out imagination

or enkad

[orchid pilot]

if you optimize the power aggressively, it's actually about the same as v4 as of 1.2.1 (outside of event, of course)

both are around 4.5kW rn

[atomic swan]

Yeah, I had to set up ANOTHER Power Bank via Packaging just to keep up with demand.

[orchid pilot]

obviously, it will shoot way up in 1.2.2

uh

[atomic swan]

When I already had one setup at the Sky King Flats.

[orchid pilot]

3.6 isn't enough for v4

[atomic swan]

It was passing for me.

But the lack of power wasn't my problem in V4 – the fact that 90% of my machines ALL needed Sandleaf to produce whatever I needed is what killed me.

[craggy oyster]

he probably didnt make anything to sell

just battery stuff ig

[atomic swan]

No, I did.

[orchid pilot]

that means you're missing some production lines relative to standard endgame setup

[craggy oyster]

what u keep

[orchid pilot]

both v4 and wuling, everyone is pretty much running same thing (updating per patch)

since everything is determined by the raw ore resource limits

[atomic swan]

Small items like Amethyst and Carbon in case I run out of plants or other materials.

[orchid pilot]

(or in wuling, skyforge)

[atomic swan]

Everything else, I have max of, so I no longer need to produce them.

[craggy oyster]

holy

imagine produce carbon and shift daily to reduce machine for uling

[atomic swan]

Yeah, I literally made max of EVERY material in V4 before I went to Wuling.

I cranked as much output as possible.

[orchid pilot]

I don't think that's what they're doing

sounds like they're literally just not feeding outpost

or underfeeding maybe

[atomic swan]

Nah, right now, I'm keeping up with demand.

[orchid pilot]

on 3.6?

[craggy oyster]

no i mean that what we could do

[orchid pilot]

damn

[atomic swan]

Well, back then, no.

That was when I was mid-game.

[craggy oyster]

like

[sterile stratus]

[craggy oyster]

u cut down 2 line sterlized carbons, shift 68k once every 2 days

ur xir should still be normal

[atomic swan]

I think before I moved to Wuling, my power output was 5.7K

That was when I took everything down.

[sterile stratus]

your output?

[atomic swan]

Yeah.

[sterile stratus]

oh you're eating 5 hcv4

same lol

[orchid pilot]

finally nearing the end of my overproduction phase as my pre-stashed heavy runs dry

[atomic swan]

Yeah, V4 batteries came in clutch.

The SC or LC Batteries, weren't cutting it.

[sterile stratus]

nah bro gimme dat dense ori pwder

[orchid pilot]

lol I'm doing the ori banks

[sterile stratus]

yeah obv (unless u want more flexible pwm)

ori WH-

oh nvm

[valid gazelle]

welp now i have nowhere to sell these

[atomic swan]

Damn.

[stable zodiac]

move em' to v4

[sterile stratus]

sell that to me, 10k sc for 1 wuling stock bill

best price you can find

[atomic swan]

Hey, they could at least serve as a backup power source in V4.

[valid gazelle]

[atomic swan]

3.2K power for one Battery? That's optimal. Could set up like 20+ production lines with 4 Banks running off those.

[sterile stratus]

[valid gazelle]

pay more than the broke ass stockage and i'll consider

[sterile stratus]

FOUR banks 😭

[valid gazelle]

[atomic swan]

What?

[sterile stratus]

what are u powering? data centers?

[craggy oyster]

it's a 40s bat so it could supply much more bank than ori

20 bank right

[atomic swan]

Yes. That's the idea.

[nova pilot]

It... doesn't look bad right?

[valid gazelle]

man is powering the entire civilization band

[sterile stratus]

yeah

[valid gazelle]

damn that's nice

[random estuary]

Maybe I should start burning SCW to ensure production is fine.
I need what ... 12 banks to match output?

[atomic swan]

Make a full Data Center worth of materials.

[sterile stratus]

zamn that's beautiful

[atomic swan]

Holy Perlica symmetry, dude...

[sterile stratus]

i could only wish

[valid gazelle]

4 forges + 2 SCW + heavy i assume ?

[nova pilot]

It's gotten a bit shorter in the middle 😭

[atomic swan]

I could never.

[orchid pilot]

If you already filled up v4 storage...

[valid gazelle]

you can move the entire middle section up by 1 tile and it'll look better

[craggy oyster]

lol talking about symetrial while still being compacted. that's what we aiming for

[sterile stratus]

perlica, call an airstrike

[atomic swan]

Btw, unrelated to factory, but you want to know something messed up?

[nova pilot]

Ahh right I wouldn't be able to use the space at the top anyways

[atomic swan]

My friend Pixel also plays EF, but he's not in the DC.

[valid gazelle]

you can lay the water treaments more into a straight line too

[atomic swan]

We were in a party together on PSN, he tried fighting that Marble Aggelos in V4 – got smoked first try.

[sterile stratus]

i'll do symmetric things when they make pipe inputs better

smh

[atomic swan]

He gave command to me via Share Play – I beat it first try.

[nova pilot]

Yupp @craggy oyster -sensei showed me the way

[atomic swan]

[wise burrow]

I thought 80m is the minimum for relays

[atomic swan]

It is.

[valid gazelle]

you are 80.09

[atomic swan]

You're .02 over.

[valid gazelle]

wait no relay is 80 max

[sterile stratus]

shift it once to the left

[atomic swan]

You were using a Pylon?

[sterile stratus]

that's a relay, no?

[wise burrow]

Relay

[final sierra]

so we have true overflow converger, nice, nice

[atomic swan]

The relays have 80, yeah.

[random estuary]

Wouldn't matter if other one is pylon either. He's placing a relay. (But yeah. It's slightly rounding error)

[craggy oyster]

hmm

[sterile stratus]

what...

[atomic swan]

Wth is that?

[craggy oyster]

@nova pilot can u give me enkad ver? i can edit on it right?

[sterile stratus]

"just in case" type shi

[craggy oyster]

wanna try smt

[random estuary]

Oh gosh I just imagined new. Buildings that want "no electricity nearby to power this"

[atomic swan]

You're feeding Ferrium and Cuprium into a RC?

Why?

[sterile stratus]

just demonstrating stuff bro

[random estuary]

I think. Trying to make an. Overflow catcher?

[final sierra]

yes

[atomic swan]

Funky demonstration.

[sterile stratus]

but yh i see the idea

[sterile stratus]

ik, he should use refinement units instead of ferrium

[atomic swan]

Real

At least then he might get some use out of the Cuprium.

[orchid pilot]

the point is that the left side converger is "supposed" to be spitting out a mixed stream of heto/ferri

instead it's only spitting heto

[atomic swan]

Wait, that's Heto?

I thought that was Cuprium.

Bruh

[orchid pilot]

it really doesn't matter what they are

just demonstrating logistics/building interaction mechanics

[random estuary]

Um actually, 👆 pretty sure it's cuprium ore.

[sterile stratus]

it's ferrium ore and heto

bro what's the point here 🥀

[random estuary]

But also. That only works cus the converger is taking full cuprium right? If there is a gap on the converger, would it not eat a ferrium?

[final sierra]

yes but if conveyor is not full it starts giving feruim to that side too

[random estuary]

HEY I knew expected reaction, I'm learning

[sterile stratus]

uh oh ferrium is running away!

[random estuary]

Aslo. Didn't know protocol stashes can output with no power. Belts built different.

[sterile stratus]

[craggy oyster]

it weird for this tho. some machine can, some doesnt

[sterile stratus]

i want to design stuff in aic but i can only do math

[sterile stratus]

i think some facilities can do that...

[random estuary]

Me except. I can't even math
-me at 177 cuprium usage

[sterile stratus]

my teacher said i'll use inequality in life some day 🥀

[valid gazelle]

[random estuary]

I do use inequality. I am 2
Or also known as ❤️

< 3

[orchid pilot]

oh Vi did you see my question about how you stitch?

[sterile stratus]

ts should be #salt-mine-beautiful-factory-flex

[final sierra]

fixed that XD

[craggy oyster]

new fomulars for forges incomming

[atomic swan]

Lol

[sterile stratus]

formula 1?

[upper fiber]

F1

[craggy oyster]

u scary

[random estuary]

Is there a way to move the "produced xiranite" from fots. To the input slot of fots. Without belting it all the way around.

[hoary crag]

nice

I just realized

[atomic swan]

In order to make the Heavy Xiranite?

[sterile stratus]

nah bro

[hoary crag]

if the standard is going to be 9+3

I could keep my 6 forge core aic setup

[sterile stratus]

does splitter have priority like uh converger

or not

[hoary crag]

and then use one of my old 3 forge sub-pac setups

[orchid pilot]

you'd also have to change the fluid inside

[atomic swan]

Yeah.

[orchid pilot]

there's a whole thread on designing mechanisms to automate the forge switch process

[random estuary]

Yeah but that's a later problem. Someone already semi solved it.

[sterile stratus]

[atomic swan]

If you want to throw Xiranite in and out of a FOTS, you'd have to turn it into a fluid via RC.

[sterile stratus]

not the bottles right

[orchid pilot]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495816858350125066

[random estuary]

It was bottles. Was that bad?

[sterile stratus]

uh no

[craggy oyster]

i think i can do the belts stuff for forges. but i need to understand more about priority to do the liquid one

[subtle finch]

i dont understand why this is not a flat 2/min

[craggy oyster]

oh we gonna have to sync them too

[sterile stratus]

yeah same

[craggy oyster]

there defi some delay we dont know about

i tried the slow slow plant loop stuff too

[sterile stratus]

[desert flame]

it only counts when it is in production, so need to wait for 5 to make

[craggy oyster]

and delay happened every x circles

[nova pilot]

@craggy oyster https://enkad.enka.network/?id=C8y1K2Y9Y0n5M1

It's missing the pipes

[craggy oyster]

it's fine

[subtle finch]

i know that, but the rate shouldnt drop to 2/min

unless its not synced to their sample size

[nova pilot]

The heavy Xiranite outputs on the Core PAC isn't arranged very well too

[final sierra]

it is :)

[desert flame]

1 day sample size lol

[subtle finch]

definitely not align to their sample rate

[orchid pilot]

1d smooths out a lot

though idk what Hikarin's original screenshot was

[subtle finch]

1 day range

[orchid pilot]

i'd guess the 10min one tho

[sterile stratus]

maybe give the logistic facilities some... thinking space?

[craggy oyster]

i learn a trick from master Vort alreayd for that

[final sierra]

yes, can be different but not for this case :)

[orchid pilot]

i'm still kinda scared of the 10/m belt limiter

[subtle finch]

i tried taking out 1 heto, and see if it aligns better

[orchid pilot]

I tried it for my 1.25 batt xira feed and it didn't work (I forget if overfed or underfed)

[upper fiber]

becoz putting converger right in front of depot is not a good thing to do

[nova pilot]

Can't do that. Will hit the limit faster 😭

[craggy oyster]

i make some

[sterile stratus]

but it should prioritize anything but the depot right? then shouldn't it work?

[orchid pilot]

why? common practice for belt limiting

[subtle finch]

ive been doing it for months now, and its just fine

[desert flame]

hmmm mine too...interesting

[nova pilot]

Also, the right crucible at the top is still a placeholder. I forgot to swap it with a forge

[craggy oyster]

how to edit , it wont let me somehow

[nova pilot]

Idk either

[craggy oyster]

alright just copy to new one

[orchid pilot]

^

[craggy oyster]

ughhh this is not enough input , no?

[sterile stratus]

uhm

[nova pilot]

Yeah I'll move the PAC up a bit pfft

It'll look like a tank again

[craggy oyster]

ye need 2 belts or have to move up

[nova pilot]

If you rotate it at 90° you can have the outputs straight

[bright zodiac]

wdym not enough

are you tryin to feed forge of the sky 90/m xiranite?

[nova pilot]

I really hate the Automation Core

[craggy oyster]

yessss they killin us with both size and input/output

therre arre some room to gain more facility but less fillin

[nova pilot]

Mhmm I tried to replace the 4 normal crucs with 2 expanded but I can't fill the space with any smaller units

[craggy oyster]

btw is there any reason why bottom left 1 row?

or just u dont wanna mess with the yellow line

[subtle finch]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[nova pilot]

Vi said it'll look better

[subtle finch]

📈

[nova pilot]

Maybe I can lower the Farms

[final sierra]

taking photos from DIJANG :)

[upper fiber]

did you see the inconsistent 1/3 there?

[subtle finch]

i didnt really notice it like that since i dont have a long belt running, but my graphs with 1/3 before are just fine

[gentle sentinel]

Where? Owh yeah

[upper fiber]

some are 2 dots apart, some are 3 dots apart

[subtle finch]

can you try merge 3 of those?

[bright zodiac]

📈

[subtle finch]

my aic is full of stash right now to do testing

[south rover]

Can I make the event even though I'm making the xiranite gourd 6/min?

[bright zodiac]

🤝

[gentle sentinel]

How do you merge them? 🤔

[south rover]

Someone is about to get very rich

[bright zodiac]

i think thats estimate around 18-20M

[final sierra]

JAAAAADE

[subtle finch]

like this

[orchid pilot]

fml accidentally just killed 200 jgourd from hitting deposit all

[bright zodiac]

but selling them is a pain, so i just hoard, too lazy to visit and sell

[upper fiber]

i don't have space as well

[green sleet]

What purpose does that contraption serve?

[gentle sentinel]

Ahhh

Lemme try then

[subtle finch]

testing if 1/3 limiter against the unloader is stable

if the lane is full, and there's no clogging, then it is

[valid gazelle]

i can

gimme a bit

[green sleet]

Ah. Fascinating

[subtle finch]

it looks stable now, i really think it's just not aligned to their sample rate
but feel free to test further

[sterile stratus]

uhh guys pls help

[gentle sentinel]

You don't have enough dense oro(?)

[valid gazelle]

not enough input

its a 1:4

you're giving it 1:1

[bright zodiac]

[gentle sentinel]

Owh right didn't notice that

[sterile stratus]

oh yeah i didn't notice that

gotta wait 🥀

[valid gazelle]

@subtle finch

[gentle sentinel]

Should be fine, since it's consistent no?

[sterile stratus]

1/3 splitter lol

[valid gazelle]

this tho

wait no not that

[valid gazelle]

this here

[gentle sentinel]

Yea consistent gap

2|3|2|3 alike

[upper fiber]

it is only inconsistent in, but still 1/3

but that would not look good on graph

[bright zodiac]

tryin hard to do 10/m

[gentle sentinel]

given the time length minimum of 10m the graph would be normal

[subtle finch]

that's probably why it was difficult to align to the aic sample rate and the the period rate of irregular 1/3

[gentle sentinel]

[sterile stratus]

so inconsistent smh

[marble yarrow]

almost there

[final sierra]

waiting for error

[marble yarrow]

wait i actually need to craft extra for outpost selling til event end

[bright zodiac]

how much will you have by the end of the event?

i currently only has 85k jade unsold, 0 outpost bill

and down to 12/m production till end of event

[bright zodiac]

there is an error for that? errr

[south rover]

I find it a bit crazy that producing sc battery and xiranite gourd pretty much eats through all 8 forge of the sky supply

[craggy oyster]

try logout and in multiple time

[final sierra]

just doing it now

[final sierra]

hmm still ok, I will leave it for more time

[gentle sentinel]

I dislike the different tick though

[marble yarrow]

i'll max at 132k but i only needed 124k so ill be cutting the production off by ~8 hours before event ends

[bright zodiac]

i thought u gonna use stashhhh

[marble yarrow]

yeah i already stashed most of it

[bright zodiac]

ehhh, cant you have more than 148k then

[marble yarrow]

i only needed 116k for 14M, plus another 16k to sell to outpost until event ends

[final sierra]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 🤔

[subtle finch]

[bright zodiac]

about thattttt

arent we can have like 99M / any limit. And it will got deleted or wasted when daily reset?

[south rover]

I have to ask why is the belt so long?

[marble yarrow]

it says "stock bill limit" so i considered it as 14M

any amount over it will converted to certs

[gentle sentinel]

We're testing the stability of 1:3 splitter setup

[final sierra]

to spot the difference easier

[subtle finch]

i guess there's definitely clogging of the unloader with it set as low prio
but it can easily resolve so it's still 1/3 rate

[south rover]

I legit thought it was a meme that was about to start

[marble yarrow]

it implies that "you cannot receive the bill from mail if it goes over limit"

[bright zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-6502286207230651503

[jagged swallow]

How bad is this valley 4

[upper fiber]

no battery?

[jagged swallow]

Is it bad i extended power from 5.7 -7.9

[subtle finch]

@marble yarrow

[jagged swallow]

80K HC battery

.....

Am i addicted?

[upper fiber]

it is bad if you don't sell any

[gentle sentinel]

Ah yes now we wait

[jagged swallow]

Funny uhhh

Can my money go above cap

[elfin elm]

what is that??

[jagged swallow]

I sitting on 17M

I could sell not gonna lie

I could ....

[upper fiber]

if you don't need any of those valley iv items, yeah

[subtle finch]

i also just got back to 18/min jade, it can run for 10 hours

[jagged swallow]

Damn

I still 12

LOL

[upper fiber]

mine is less than 72hrs...

have to down it to 12/min on last day

[gentle sentinel]

Welp the gap appeared

[elfin elm]

noooo

[final sierra]

uhh

[subtle finch]

why have we never thought of using batch select to see it clearer

we always use a full lane at the side for comparison

[upper fiber]

you mean blurrier...

[subtle finch]

so it's consistently inconsistent

[gentle sentinel]

well I did do the chinop way relogging thingy

[random estuary]

There's.... No way to turn liquid Hxira back into. Solid HXira yet right?

[gentle sentinel]

I shall wait without relogging then

[bright zodiac]

[subtle finch]

placing everything by bp does the same thing

[gentle sentinel]

hooo

[orchid pilot]

so does this mean converger must be placed at depot unloader tile for consistent prio?

or can the bottom lane bug out too?

oh wait but it's just offset

[subtle finch]

if you like consistent aic report, move it 1 tile away
it's still 1/3

[orchid pilot]

yeah

isn't the 1 tile away the one that messed up

[subtle finch]

i guess i was just lucky before where the irregular gaps doesnt align with aic report

[orchid pilot]

oh wow my eyes very bad

LOL

thanks

[upper fiber]

your is kinda weird actually, because there is no up after down, just straight

also your 1d report is 1/min

[subtle finch]

my material consumption is consistent though, so it's just bad aliasing

[craggy oyster]

WHAT

gravity hit so belts have diff speed for diff mats or smt?

[subtle finch]

you just captured it too early i think

[gentle sentinel]

On my case it fixed itself when I reconnect the conveyor

[pulsar willow]

Hmmm i want to try and make a sushi belt for something lol

[upper fiber]

check stash and see how much they have each... if you didn't turn it on

[orchid pilot]

uhhhh

I tried counting pixels

both lines are messed up

measured center-to-center on the heto icons

[upper fiber]

in long term might not be 1/3 anymore

[subtle finch]

yeah, the converger to 1 line test might many hours to check it's prone to clogging, or short

[upper fiber]

how long did you used that 2/min btw

[pulsar willow]

Never used them in satisfactory but maybe here it will be doable (or not, considering the buggy belts)

[subtle finch]

still, ive been using that same thing for months, it should be close to 1/3 else my factory would be dead

[marble yarrow]

😭

[pulsar willow]

Try making a 1 belt gap between a splitter and converger, maybe it will fix things?

[craggy oyster]

i did notice that when i tried my slow plant production, the speed of the belt is not true

[upper fiber]

9.9/min won't affect you for year....

[subtle finch]

we went from 1/12 and 1/6 back to 1/3

[craggy oyster]

it true for 30/mins

[final sierra]

oh, wait priority logic wont be included if test this way :(

[pulsar willow]

Don't remind me of 1/5

[subtle finch]

bro is doing aic census 😭

[craggy oyster]

but if it 10/min i only see like 4 plants going to depot

[subtle finch]

well, this is why the fots project went to a halt for a while

[final sierra]

btw still looks like interesting test

[marble yarrow]

i'll resume it when we get the exact rate of effluent in may 14th, maybe we'll have 2 forge free for use

[subtle finch]

you expect it to swap colors on the gaps right?

[orchid pilot]

i'm so bummed they're not giving us any sneak info or separate mini-video for the second half content lol

[final sierra]

just wanted to see a pattern

[orchid pilot]

lol time for the ole Hikarin screenshot

where's that famous pic

[subtle finch]

i have a feeling that ori bed might ruin all your plan

you might need an extra grinder, shredders, and maybe another reactor to use that up

[marble yarrow]

imma use that for SC (or LC if i cannot place anymore)

[final sierra]

uhh ok

[craggy oyster]

where 1 extra fe comming from

[gentle sentinel]

[valid gazelle]

ayy i can fit 2 here

[orchid pilot]

ah I found ithttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1489634631891419238/image.png?ex=6a01409c&is=69ffef1c&hm=25a6c0392d5cbbbe9fb7a9df98a140a0eb79dcd80c0ca23d542945fd95654260&

[craggy oyster]

lol i make a rainbow cube one

[valid gazelle]

weekly reminder that your sanity potions are expiring

[subtle finch]

looks like im the only one going for high score now

[final sierra]

if only i made more reserves

[orchid pilot]

dw, I'm still with ya 🤣

[small creek]

my reserves ran out yesterday 🥀

[orchid pilot]

my reserves ending in about 12h

[final sierra]

ok after one restart it looks better

[small creek]

wait @subtle finch am i tripping or are my calcs right that 12/min jade gourd produces less than 13.25 SCW + 6 jade?

12/min jade: 120x12 = 1440
6/m jade + 13.25/m SCW + 1.3/m regular gourd: (120x6)+(54x13.25)+(40x1.3) = 1487.5

tldr youre making 47.5 less bills per min

[subtle finch]

well, you can't sell all jades so is it even worth comparing?

[valid gazelle]

those outposts arent earning nowhere fast enough

[small creek]

If the idea is to hoard jades for the conversion, then having as much as possible to sell is still good

[upper fiber]

can someone whip those plebian

[orchid pilot]

you're not accounting for the value of the ferri and ori

the 12/min jade produces jincao c to compensate

[small creek]

Thats irrelevant since jade doesnt use either

What in the fuck jincaoC

[orchid pilot]

it's absolutely relevant

could do yazhen C

but all the gourds are using yazhen

might as well double a reactor to jincao to save power

[boreal prism]

Ive reworked my AIC factory so many times now lol

[upper fiber]

12/min jade can make 1.5/min SCW as well...

so you lose

[boreal prism]

Each update in wuling is another rework for the factory

[small creek]

wow yea i lose by a lot

Good thing yall are here to double check me

[orchid pilot]

so the ferri for fair comparison, you have to match up the equivalent amount of med C production

[sharp island]

is the 8 forges limit for the entire update

[subtle finch]

i think a simple xiranite to bill cost would do right?
1 jade = 14 xiranite = 120/14 = 8.57bills/xir
1 sc = 8 xiranite = 54/8 = 6.75bills/xir

[orchid pilot]

the problem is that ignores the value from ferri and ori

[small creek]

i think xiranite/bill disregards forge

that too

[orchid pilot]

which is a significant portion of battery value

[craggy oyster]

ugh u jade use heto, bat dont

[bright zodiac]

producing jade gourd, is the best decision endmin could make

to outpace the outpost regeneration and by the end, u got surplus.

if any endmin neglect jade gourd (considering they already finish shop), it just straight didnt make sense your normal v1.2 base production could compete with +50% outpost regen

[subtle finch]

as long as you can find the constant rate of production, forge doesnt matter

[orchid pilot]

40 ori per batt is a good chunk

[craggy oyster]

u miscount it and didnt compare heto vs Fe+Ori

[orchid pilot]

I calculated out the difference between normal batt and sacrificing it for jade + medC + ori burn

ori burn is atrocious value as you can see above at bottom right

but jade is such ridiculous value that it pulls ahead even doing that

[small creek]

can i have a tldr

table give me holy overload

[orchid pilot]

the table is cataloging the raw material costs of each trade in item, summing those raw material values, and finding the added value from trade-in for each assembly

[small creek]

fam i aint gonna lie that is still too technical

can we just have final value comparison

[orchid pilot]

the material valuation is pegged against standard recipes:

[bright zodiac]

if anyone think they can outpace event outpost +50% regen, go ahead and produce anything they want (some ppl dont want to make jade gourd and think its good or better idea)

i stay on jade gourd.

[subtle finch]

hmm, you're both right, and wrong

[orchid pilot]

med C for ferri, med A for cupr, heto matches both of those, xira and hxira trade-in

[small creek]

You should still produce some amount of jade gourd with any case

[bright zodiac]

thats why, jade gourd win

[subtle finch]

technically it's true, but you have 12 excess xiranite from 12 jade, so you get to make like another 6/min once in a while

[bright zodiac]

its a must, currently at this event

[small creek]

A new perspective

Or just straight up SCW

[subtle finch]

bit of a pain to calculate that duty cycle, ill let the math nerds figure it out

[orchid pilot]

personally, again, I don't like bill per xira as the metric

it ignores the other materials

[small creek]

Its useful if you want to simplify things

[orchid pilot]

ferri has very easy to calculate value because 20 ferri makes a med C which trades for 16 bills

[small creek]

Then you can add the other non-xiranite later

[orchid pilot]

so we value ferri at 0.8 per

[subtle finch]

you can just me a production list, and i can plug it in to the production calc

[orchid pilot]

that's what the overload table shows

[small creek]

like you cant be discussing each and every part every single time, thats js overload

[bright zodiac]

i think if anyone produce 0 jade gourd

and ALL IN SCw, and max utilize their cuprium and ferr into bill, it still wont be enough to outpace the current outpost regen tho

[craggy oyster]

xir + ori combo
xir alone for heavy xir
xir+heto for jade
heto +Fe for gear

[subtle finch]

cant be easier than that

[orchid pilot]

so the two extremes are just

[craggy oyster]

if u want u have to do math on this

[small creek]

no one is recommending all in 0 jade gourd

no jade gourd is js throwing

[subtle finch]

i care more about the certs, so i didnt really look at bill efficiency much

[craggy oyster]

eh

what cert gonna do?

[upper fiber]

poof, gone

[subtle finch]

bragging rights

[small creek]

Bro prolly going for highscore type shi

[orchid pilot]

does the calculator also attribute bill value for burning ori?

[upper fiber]

just like hikarin's sanity

[marble yarrow]

y'all should do comparisons like this

[orchid pilot]

because that's avoided power cost

[craggy oyster]

hmm isnt everyone have somewhat the same certs, since it basically outpost earning

[subtle finch]

that's what ive been saying, gimme a production list, and ill add it up 😭

[orchid pilot]

ok, i'll list out the two extreme scenarios

[small creek]

true..

[craggy oyster]

the only diff is how much u pre stock outpost bills before this ev

[small creek]

0 jade sucks fam

[bright zodiac]

[orchid pilot]

of course not 0 jade

i'm not dumb lol

[small creek]

well u did say 2 extremes

im assuming such

not against your intelligence

[orchid pilot]

extremes of the logical comparison

[small creek]

but by wording

[marble yarrow]

0 jade is like living in stone world 💀

[small creek]

stone age ahh factory 😭

did they even discover fire yet

[bright zodiac]

+900 vs +33600

💀

[vital narwhal]

upgrade to jade age 📈

[small creek]

900 doesnt have jade gourd accounted for

[bright zodiac]

yes

[small creek]

its also ferrium meta

[bright zodiac]

i thought it wont be enough, but hey, if they all in, they still got SLIGHTLYYYY SURPLUS

yeah +900

[small creek]

wow 900

[bright zodiac]

but jade team got +33600

33times better

[subtle finch]

@marble yarrow hmmm, the duty cycle forge is hard to compute with that table...

[marble yarrow]

oh true

[vital narwhal]

rotating forge improved now?

[orchid pilot]

status quo variant (someone assumes sc wuling is too high value to sacrifice for jade):
6 u/min jade
13.25 sc wuling
3.3 heto part
20 xira

jade-heavy extreme:
12 u/min jade
0 sc wuling
4.625 u/min med C
2.1 heto part
12 xira
value of 3200 power should be considered as the result of burning 16 streams of ori - I would assign this as 1.5 sc wuling battery per minute

those are the two extremes, one where run only jade gourd without changing, one where rip apart batteries to max gourds
simplified to ignore bouncing skyforge, just standard 7/1 setup with batts or 6/2 without batts

[plush dew]

why am i only making 1 gourd per min if i already placed 4 of the gourd making blueprints

i even turned off my battery so that it doesnt use xiranite, i legit just started doing my factory in wuling which is why i dont have a proper base yet, all im producing is for the event

[subtle finch]

i think it's just 2/3 the forge rate assuming minimal duty cycle

[upper fiber]

you have 0 xiranite...

[craggy oyster]

cuz u dont have enough xir.

[bright zodiac]

im still at 12/m jade team

🙏

[subtle finch]

ill add 20xiranite gain then

[small creek]

im for 6/m jade solely cause it means i dont have to rip my factory apart

more bill would be a nice bonus though, if true

[plush dew]

i already have three blueprints placed that makes xir tho