aic-factory

[valid gazelle]

We got a man down too

[daring rapids]

2 banks to hcv

[valid gazelle]

Oh wait i should be sleeping

[sleek needle]

what about this?

[daring rapids]

it should look like this

[sleek needle]

that left conduit goes to where?

[daring rapids]

to the bottom conduit

[hidden hornet]

Can’t you loop through the refiner?

[daring rapids]

here

[hidden hornet]

Or would it clog

[rich sonnet]

I ran into a problem I didn't see coming lmao

[daring rapids]

wat?

[rich sonnet]

Power turned off because I wasn't making any batteries (obvious)
Batteries not being made because I wasn't making any sewage
I wasn't making any sewage because Cuprium depot capped out
Cuprium depot capped out because Hetonite capped out
Hetonite capped out because I'm not making any gourds
I'm not making any gourds because I'm not making any Heavy Xiranite
I'm not making any Heavy Xiranite because.. I wasn't making any batteries

[brittle sedge]

make hetonite parts

[sleek needle]

2 goes to this?

[rich sonnet]

yea i figured the fix is to make Hetonite something

just did it

[daring rapids]

yes

[final sierra]

ok, that was not hard with Snowshine auto healing skill
(16min for agony off, 23min for agony on, all first try)
last one boss froze me more than 20 times but Snowshine healing helped a lot 🎉

[hidden hornet]

Like this get rid of the thing around it and just have the right out go in to the other one same with the water, or would that clog?

[daring rapids]

ah

[sleek needle]

but it's not producing

[daring rapids]

didn't know that

[jovial breach]

Why not ardelia

[hidden hornet]

Well I dunno if it will clog but the output of crucs is dependent on the pipe flow rate so I think it should work

[daring rapids]

you need to have an working steel part production line

[river wadi]

snowshine doesnt eat sp

[daring rapids]

like this

[keen river]

that was pretty decent, looking forward to the CC 👍

[foggy horizon]

hi, do u have a blueprint for the xiranite ? genuinely tired of trying to make my own version atp 🥀 if not ill just try and copy from the picture

[sleek needle]

you gave me kosong

[foggy horizon]

i attempted to make my own and it fits 10 but takes up the whole space 😭

[sleek needle]

no steel part

[daring rapids]

yeah because I made that production myself

not from a bp

[daring rapids]

guh passthrough piping just isn't something I'm used to

so meh

[final sierra]

Snowshine heals automatically when HP drops

• she don't need skill points to heal
• she have healing in range so you can heal other operators too

so in my opinion best healer when healing items are blocked

[sleek needle]

that yr fault haiya

make me use the default BP

[daring rapids]

you're missing sandleaf

[sleek needle]

how many is enough?

two?

[jovial breach]

Well true i guess i never really used snowshine that much

[brittle sedge]

he should be sleeping rn
if you have free time you should try recreate from the picture, that way you might be able to learn something while doing it
or wait till next day when hes up

[sleek needle]

the sand leaf is alr running

[daring rapids]

no I mean sandleaf has to be fed into grinding unit along with ferrium dust

to make steel part

[sleek needle]

I got no time for this

it's almost 3 am

[river wadi]

get good sleep

[sleek needle]

it all yr fault isn't it

[brittle sedge]

duh

[daring rapids]

anyway we all should sleep

[final sierra]

but in case of combo and operator elements combination Ardelia can be better option, here I just needed easier way of auto healing

[daring rapids]

me is 4AM I think

[sleek needle]

@daring rapids dun forget u asked me to scrap everything so if yr BP got no steel production then I dun have steel production

you know what

I scrapping everything and doing it myself tomorrow

this factory cannot work like this

[daring rapids]

EFO01ouiI8I11o63OIieO
is steel production that hard to whip up?

[sleek needle]

bro

go see what time

I officially give up

[daring rapids]

I cannot believe I have to make a dedicated steel part bp for this

[sleek needle]

everything incomplete

[sleek needle]

bro, I dun have steel production in Wuling rn and I have no time to figure it out la

[foggy horizon]

oh alr, yeah ill try to recreate it then

[sleek needle]

I can make steel BP myself but not at this timing

[daring rapids]

that is just one temporary line for the event

[sleek needle]

yes u r right
it's not that hard

I can't believe that I have to defend my ability to make steel BP

it's just that time is running out bro

[fathom grotto]

how many xiranite and culprium inputs for 1 full efficiency jade gourd unit?

im making one but math is not mathing

[daring rapids]

6/min hxira so 90/min xira total

cuprium is uhh

[foggy horizon]

omg bruh ik where i messed up now i didnt s ee that the wuling carbon recipe gives twice as much carbon

[brittle sedge]

the more you know

[dreamy jungle]

Vi made a post about the xira #1499220517557895229 message

[jovial breach]

Nah only 84 xiranite

[fathom grotto]

whats the target output for jade gourd

[daring rapids]

[sleek needle]

@daring rapids any use for this part?

if not Imma turn it off

[daring rapids]

not really

until event is over

I think everything should work now

one last thing is make sure u have some ferrium bottles in depot

[sleek needle]

ok I turned it off

anything you wanna see? @daring rapids

[fathom grotto]

anyone know the output of jade gourd that i need?

[daring rapids]

should be fine now

I see xira yield going up

[fathom grotto]

is 6/min good enough or do i need 12?

[daring rapids]

as for scw, you are burning more u can make

if the graph stabilizes and it looks like this you should be fine

[shut hearth]

No shot yall stil struggled with the blueprint from 7 to 12 (in my timezone tho)

[daring rapids]

dw Imma be sleeping now

[dreamy jungle]

The patience is crazy

[daring rapids]

handholding is crazy too

[shut hearth]

Highkey just give him ur login info at this point

[dreamy jungle]

Lmao

[orchid pilot]

If you started immediately upon phase 1, 6/min is EDIT: ALMOST enough to clear both shops

[vital narwhal]

bro legit I think that was like 8 hour handhold

I spent like 2 hours helping someone with their hydro pumps but this was truly next level

[orchid pilot]

see pin for shop totals. Event ph2 length is 204 hours, so 6 x 60 x 204 = 73k. 75k needed to clear both shops

If you had some progress on phase 1 already from base gourds, you're probably OK

[daring rapids]

there won't be a next time

😭

[orchid pilot]

if you started in phase 2 only and took a few days to get the jade gourd production set up, you should probably run some 12/min if you want to clear shop

[brittle sedge]

bet they will come again another day

[daring rapids]

time to get new leaf

[dreamy jungle]

Only had smth like that one time over 3 days but not 8h straight

[orchid pilot]

@valid gazelle hey I scrolled up and see you have full-aic screenshots that are stitched. What software do you use for stitching x-y grid of images? I looked online some time ago and couldn't find any simple web tools or whatever, they were all for panorama in a single direction
pls ping me in reply so I see it as I may be asleep by the time you're back awake, thanks!

[digital violet]

can someone help with this? not getting any gourd

[brittle sedge]

ran out of stabilized carbon?

[daring rapids]

I need someone to handhold me...🥀

[brittle sedge]

ill hug you instead

[dreamy jungle]

[daring rapids]

[digital violet]

what do u mean?

[brittle sedge]

i see that your forges are not running and the input belts to it are empty
xiranites need stabilized carbons to make, and i assumed you ran out of it so no xiranites were made

[vital narwhal]

[fathom grotto]

ngl the formula for the gourd sucks ass so much

the forge of the sky limit is preventing me from making a full efficiency jade gourd unit

[vital narwhal]

should definitely be able to have at least one full jade gourd line

[tranquil condor]

Comically easy considering the heavy xira bottles are a 20s recipe

[fathom grotto]

well thats true ig

how many heavy xiranite do yall make per min

i can place 8 forges max
2 forges i make sc battery, 4 forges i make xiranite and 2 forges i make heavy xiranite

[shut hearth]

2 forges on heavy

[thorny galleon]

Test
Trying to figure out if my discord is borked

[vocal jackal]

do i need to be producing a lot of dense ferrium powders? like i think i have 8 grinding units just making them and its still not enough

[brittle sedge]

are you talking about wuling or v4

[foggy pasture]

For valley 4 you use like 18 grinding units for steel

[median pasture]

I can use portable originum miners in Wuling, correct?

[brittle sedge]

you can but... why?

[spring elm]

i believe the yield will be lower since they use originium for power. if you wanna save power overall the hydrorigs are best since the use water.

[grave veldt]

Someone dismantled Discord for extra Xiranite

[orchid pilot]

it sucks if you're trying to place it in-line (because of hetonite being on a 10s consumption basis when it's on a 2s production basis), but just pull the inputs from depot instead

you should be able to sustain one full jade gourd line without doing anything special, because everyone should have one skyforge permanently on heavy xira (6/min) and current hetonite max is 22.5/min, so not a limiting factor

[shadow void]

The Hydrorig+Pump combo will use up more Protocol capacity tho compared to just Mining Rigs

[orchid pilot]

if you want to run two jade gourd lines (12/min), you can do this temporarily by burning through a full depot of xiranite (lasts about 12 hours) on a second skyforge, or if you want to do it permanently, you'd need to drastically reduce sc wuling battery production (probably easier to just cut it entirely)

[orchid pilot]

standard setup is 7 forges xira, 1 forge heavy.
4 lines of xira to SC battery, recycled inert provides liquid feed for heavy (consuming 2 lines), leaving 1 extra line (30/min) of xira accumulating.
most of us here (outside of event) use 10/min of that extra 30/min towards SC wuling batteries, rate limited to match dense originium powder metatransfer.

the perma-double scenario I described above is instead:
6 forges xira, 2 forges heavy.
0 lines xira to SC battery.
2 lines (if throttled with recycle, 1.6 lines) providing liquid feed for heavy forges. 4 lines providing solid feed. Remainder with recycle is 12/min accumulation (180 prod, 168 cons)

[median pasture]

I didn’t realize that you have to collect from them

[thorny galleon]

Lmao
Looks like I’m getting some messages now

[stable zodiac]

are we back?

look like it

[grave veldt]

I have discord up and down constantly so i recommend going to sleep idk

[stable zodiac]

any suggestion to making slim/vertical version of this, so that when 12 forges are dropping I can just scale it

[graceful wraith]

Bruh somehow I just got the weirdest clog ever

Literally can't find the reason

😭

[orchid pilot]

The problem is we don't know yet how much free xircon effluent we're getting from the new purification node

also, I don't think there's much you can do to scale this vertically because you still need the depot unloaders

[stable zodiac]

L shape depot time

[vale roost]

Yall is there smth wrong with my aic i cant produce xianrite fast enough

[orchid pilot]

see this 3-heavy-forge setup from Hikarin

[stable zodiac]

honestly im just bored and try to pre made a bunch of scenarios bp

[graceful wraith]

So, regarding the 4 expanded crucible 60/m xircon setup, is there any chance of it randomly clogging?

[orchid pilot]

it's not random; it happens under specific conditions
if something elsewhere in your factory caused a difference in your intended input/output rates, yes, 4x15 setup is rather prone to clogging

[tall tangle]

if it's 4x0.5 (depends) yes. if it's 2x0 2x1 no

[graceful wraith]

• Xiranite needs 2 stabilized carbon, u only have 1 for each forge
• Are ur water pipe max capacity? I mean 2/s

[graceful wraith]

Yea it's the 4x0.5

Goddamnit

[vale roost]

The problem is there isnt enough space for the stablized carbon from the aic thing

[orchid pilot]

ignoring the power situation, you're supposed to be matching the recipe ratios. grinder needs two carbon powders, (while shredder makes two powders from one carbon), so both lines out from the shredder need to go to one grinder, not shared across two. (aka, you need two shredders for carbon)

[tall tangle]

then time to search here about how priority convergers work and how to apply them to your setup
or rebuild into 2x setup

[vale roost]

I had 2 but started running out of buckflower somehow so ended up using one

[orchid pilot]

there shouldn't be any need for priority converger, even with 4x15 setup

just need to not screw up ins and outs

[vale roost]

The other side is being used for buckflower production

[orchid pilot]

you should not be making buckflower in wuling. jincao and yazhen produce 2 carbon instead of 1

[vale roost]

And the others are component and batteries production

[graceful wraith]

I dunno man, I mean my setup was working fine for a week or so, then today it just randomly decided that it's time

[vale roost]

I did not know that

Ty

[orchid pilot]

did something cap in depot?

[tall tangle]

yeah. we hear this a lot here

[orchid pilot]

my suspicion is sewage issue

my 4x15 ran smoothly for all of 1.2 until I turned it off for event (will rebuild as the split setup instead)

[graceful wraith]

Xiranite got capped, but I balanced it out before, so the only reason I could think of is xircon stopped production, which stopped using xiranite -> capping

Lets check my priority converger again, should be what I think it is

[orchid pilot]

make sure to feed the correct recipe ratios / set the correct number of buildings

there are times when there is reason to run a partial line but not when starting out, and especially not for xiranite (high value, timegated material made of free/infinite materials)

[tall tangle]

i agree with that sewage is likely culprit

[vale roost]

Alr

[orchid pilot]

keep in mind, if it's your first time growing the water plants, they can infinite loop with only one planter and one seeder because the 1-->2 is on the planter instead of the seeder

[graceful wraith]

Nah everything looks normal, or do I gotta split the sewage too

[boreal fulcrum]

hello im using kyostinv phase 2 base but something went wrong:
does anyone know of this issue? its making the wrong thing

[orchid pilot]

so you don't even need to run these as outputs from AIC or depot unloader, you can put wherever

[boreal fulcrum]

oh

im missing the recipe?

[orchid pilot]

if you don't have the recipe, need to do the little event story for ph2

[boreal fulcrum]

ye im dumb

thank you

[vestal mortar]

Mhmm

Silly jelly

[boreal fulcrum]

.<

also is it correct that i need 20k of the phase 2 gourge for the achievement?

[vestal mortar]

That I dunno

[boreal fulcrum]

mhh do you know why my game keeps freezing in the loading screen?

n then after it works again, but it kinda makes loading screens longer

[orchid pilot]

yes, 20k jade gourd is the trim condition, should be quite easy, you need way more than that to finish phase 2 shop

[boreal fulcrum]

i already finished most of the shop with the phase 1 gourd

[orchid pilot]

👍 then you should be fine with just standard 6/min ph2 gourd

[boreal fulcrum]

oo ok thank you

wait but how long does 20k take

math

umm

6*1000 = 6000

[orchid pilot]

55hrs

[boreal fulcrum]

3*6 = 18

mhh

oh

i was getting there!!

18000 seconds

18000/60 = 3000 / 60 = 50 hours

for 18k

[orchid pilot]

[boreal fulcrum]

so 20k is 55!!

lesgo

[vestal mortar]

U have like uh

5 more days or 6 idk if ur Na or eu

So should be fine

[boreal fulcrum]

my shop look like this:

[vestal mortar]

It's the 9th for me rn

And event ending at 13th

[orchid pilot]

mine (NA) says 4d23h left

[vestal mortar]

[orchid pilot]

the shop stays open for longer but ph2 prod stops on 13th as Beemo said

[boreal fulcrum]

looks good?

[vestal mortar]

Make as much gourd as u want since it converts when event over

[boreal fulcrum]

in 55 hours i get achievement?

peakk

[vestal mortar]

More wuling bills

[orchid pilot]

and yeah jade gourd is a huge benefit over batteries and everything else permanent

so it doesn't hurt to make more

[boreal fulcrum]

oki

[orchid pilot]

obviously, up to the point that you're outpacing outpost stock bill regen

which is approximately 8.9/min

[stable zodiac]

yeah im basically only making jade until the event end, which should get converted

[vestal mortar]

Yea just keep making more money

[orchid pilot]

tbf the conversion mechanic is ambiguous

I interpret the cn event rules as meaning the conversion (to stock bills) only triggers for the amount within current outpost stock bill amount

[silk lichen]

this, I asked everyone I know and they have various answers 😭

[stable zodiac]

hmm, i wonder if anyone try reading the chinese text for the event, to avoid incorrectly translation

[keen badge]

They all auto-convert into event currency?
That's a relief, I get the "funbucks" even if I forget the event deadline ^^'

[orchid pilot]

yes, I did lol

[covert rivet]

Can some one shere a aic-factory for all the stuff i need in fuling?

[orchid pilot]

raw text (simp)

[tame sedge]

I think it's safe to assume it will work exactly as it does now. You will continue to earn event currency even if the outpost is out of stockbills.

At the end of the event you can screenshot your excess event currency and start thinking about whether you should run conduit to the Test Area

[orchid pilot]

yes, event currency, definitely. stock bill is the question

[tame sedge]

you dont get any excess now, and you wont get any more later

[orchid pilot]

I agree with that interpretation. Some others don't

but certainly, it's what should be shared as reference as it's the most conservative scenario

[stable zodiac]

i guess im just gonna cap it first and then making battery, i did actually traded in a bit too much for the phase 2 shop too

[orchid pilot]

and too real on the conduits 😭

[stable zodiac]

i now have 182k sitting there for nothing

[orchid pilot]

for NA, it's roughly 50k jgourds left to end of event, to continue clearing outpost using only jade gourd

it doesn't matter that you have excess event currency

making jade gourd is strictly superior for stock bills too

[tame sedge]

its not for nothing

its for screenshot

[orchid pilot]

you have more batteries in your pocket than if you were to trade in anything else

[stable zodiac]

oh right, gotta cap the non jade gourd too

for the lol

[tame sedge]

"The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment ..."

-EA

[orchid pilot]

Jockomoron, are you going for big funny number too?

[tame sedge]

I was until i left a converger sideways and halted my heavy xiranite for 12hrs

[orchid pilot]

rip

[tame sedge]

i felt like I had just lost all purpose in life

[orchid pilot]

I made a few overnight mistakes but still going for it... I see I'm way behind Hikarin though

[tame sedge]

what are you at now?

i wasn't even in the ballpark as some of you guys, but it was fun to try

[orchid pilot]

roughly 95k on empty outpost

I've been running steady 36/min and still have some stashed and v4 heavy xira to pull back, surprised it's held this long

[tame sedge]

wow

[orchid pilot]

I was also like 2d late to turn off batts and go perma double heavy

[tame sedge]

you have 95k gourds stashed, or event currency?

[orchid pilot]

gourds

[tame sedge]

yeah that was too much work too

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[orchid pilot]

lot of dijiang grinding

[bold kernel]

other than making xurinite gourds. the question i have is. What about the xurinite liquor and alcohol/spirits to fill those wuling bars and stockade for those stockaders that want to to take a few swigs when they are not working

[orchid pilot]

honestly, very fair question given the gourds are normally for alcohol or medicine

[bold kernel]

i mean it makes sense for it other intended purpose

[vale roost]

I gave up on figuring stuff out and decided to use the blueprint channel how do i start ts (ill supply energy later)

[random estuary]

If it's just battery energy, take from Valley IV. And throw down just like. 6 banks

or wait for 1.4 and the auto jump start feature

[tame sedge]

add water, seeds, and plants. Stir until nice and thick

[random estuary]

Oh yeah that too. Wuling plant for anything that touches water.
Sand leaf for all the others

[vestal mortar]

If u see a facility with a tube on its side it normally means it needs fluid to work aka water most of the time

[south haven]

oh nooo uuhh ohh

[vale roost]

Started it just needed to supply some yazhen

[shut hearth]

hook up water to it first; the right side requires 2 pumps, the left one requires 1 pump (technically 0.5 pumps)

[south haven]

OHH NOO ITS GETTING WORSE
minor fluid tank mistake

[vale roost]

This is what i did

Supply more water?

Im going to get more yazhen

[hidden hornet]

Beautiful

[gentle sentinel]

You need 3 pump

[subtle finch]

yeah its lacking 1 extra pump to the left on that screenshot

[vale roost]

Which one needs a pump?

[gentle sentinel]

Left one

[shut hearth]

probably your left side from ur pov

[subtle finch]

2 pumps to a converger

[hidden hornet]

What’s the footprint of that?

[shut hearth]

im kinda curious why they have the blueprint upside down and making the pipes longer

[gentle sentinel]

That's true but if it works it works

[hidden hornet]

Guess I’ll count the damn tiles

[subtle finch]

we returned to normal now 😭

[gentle sentinel]

Owh you did

alright

[vale roost]

Like this?

[shut hearth]

yo hakiran ur discord effect is making me question if my astigmatism got worse

[subtle finch]

yes, if its still half idling, half clogging, there might not have enough seeds/plants inside

[vale roost]

Yea i cant find yazhen

[gentle sentinel]

Use Jincao then

[vale roost]

Where do i even find a good amount of it

[vale roost]

I have 0 of both

[gentle sentinel]

Find them and reproduce

[vale roost]

Alr

[subtle finch]

you can temporary cut these 3 belts and let them accumulate first

[vale roost]

Ill jus get 50 and finish it with probe,ms

[subtle finch]

[vale roost]

Nvm im jus gonna use the aic to produce enough of it

I need like what 200?

[gentle sentinel]

Assuming the blueprint, 20

[subtle finch]

havent seen anyone homeless for yazhen

[vestal mortar]

what if im homeless for yazhen

[subtle finch]

start picking

[shadow void]

so my 12/m hvy needs 1/s sewage, from 2 cuprium refineries. But if I Purify Inert Effluent and loop the Xircon Effluent back in, the Crucibles making Xircon Effluent will clog (not necessarily a bad thing just means less Xiranite usage). Whats my Sewage usage now?

is it 0.75/s Sewage?

[subtle finch]

excellent question, you can try this
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=K5h7P0J4h0a2W2

[gentle sentinel]

should be

[subtle finch]

72/min of sewage at 18/min heavy
48/min of sewage for 12/min heavy
that's how i figured out the minimum prio splitter required

[shadow void]

3 Forges?, i'd tank Xiranite with that no?

[subtle finch]

well, there's 12/min xiranite surplus if you're perfectly efficient

[gentle sentinel]

How do you have the fluid running after convergers

[subtle finch]

that's why i made a system that runs at 12-18/min
you do 12/min as usual, but when your capped on xiranite, you move the 3rd forge in

[shadow void]

yeah, if i run 2 hvy forges, i'll gain a surplus of Xiranite

[gentle sentinel]

Mine be empty afterward

[ruby sorrel]

that's why you throw all those at comps for fun

[subtle finch]

that enkad link matches all theoretical
168/min of xiranite for 12/min heavy
saving you 12/min xiranite from self recycling

[shadow void]

i'm just wondering how to fix the sewage problem at 12/m if i hook up 2 refineries of sewage

[subtle finch]

oh im using 3 refineries mb, then you need a splitter that is greater than 48/min

[shadow void]

with the +4 forges on the 14th, is 3 hvy forges going to be standard?

[subtle finch]

here's one example

[ruby sorrel]

you can try the funny valve

[subtle finch]

top refinement sends all (30)
bottom refinement throws 1/4 (22.5)
52.5 sewage in total, rule of prio splitters, it will adjust to the 48/min consumption rate

[shadow void]

was just trying to figure that out

[subtle finch]

so my best advice for future problems like this, use a calc and see how much sewage it consumes, then prio split to send more than the required amount
it should match the rate when full
https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/#t=item_xiranite_enr_powder%3A12

[ruby sorrel]

until the calc is wrong

[subtle finch]

use 2 calcs to verify

[ruby sorrel]

sewage = 0.8eff

[wispy shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Xg_15e6kQ

I'm using this video

something happened

idk what, but it kinda fucked me up?

[gentle sentinel]

Your ores

[unreal laurel]

halo

[wispy shore]

yes, my ores, i know, the originium ore is whatever, i kinda expected that to happen due to the jingyu valley blueprint

[gentle sentinel]

hi

[wispy shore]

But I was NOT producing enough xiranite

to make gourd

[shadow void]

conduit has 1/s (2 refineries) will this work?

[unreal laurel]

why not

[gentle sentinel]

Your theoritical is 0 so I don't know

[wispy shore]

you can watch the video

itself, idk what happened

[subtle finch]

try and screenshot the area with the most idle/clogged units
there's not enough info for us

[wispy shore]

sure

[ruby sorrel]

theoretical 0 xira lmao everything is wrong

[gentle sentinel]

Yea, where that converger going though?

[ruby sorrel]

forges never got both inputs

[shadow void]

ah

[subtle finch]

yeah, was about to say, wrong side, that should work

[unreal laurel]

halo yall

[gentle sentinel]

Pumps doesn't seem good

[gentle sentinel]

same here

[gentle sentinel]

hi

[shadow void]

conduits full of sewage but the inlet connected is slowly draining

assume once it drains enough it'll feed the Crucibles just enough

[subtle finch]

your depot is filled with cuprium, delete some just for now if you cant use them fast enough
idk how that should be affecting the xiranite though

@dense blade this your bp?

[vital narwhal]

did bro place down blueprint and screenshot aic report 2 seconds after?

[wispy shore]

it is stabilizing, i remade the AIC from wulin

😭 I did but it legit stopped producing stuff

[jolly shore]

Someone in another discord asked for my bottle progress so I may as well post it here too

[vital narwhal]

yea that ss above did not match with theoretical 0 xiranite prod

xdd

[shadow void]

How much Hetonite is one Hetonite bottle?

[subtle finch]

i think im begininning to see
2 forge are directly linked to heavy production
and they require the sewage from cuprium
it will work for a while then clogs again because you have too much cuprium in depot

this cuprium, not cuprium "ore"

[wispy shore]

what happened in this one wtf...

[subtle finch]

same reason, delete cuprium

[dense blade]

yea

[wispy shore]

how do i even

[vital narwhal]

wait

nvm

[dense blade]

@wispy shore just ask in the thread I’ll help you

[vital narwhal]

in fact not passthru

[gentle sentinel]

Depot then trash them

[wispy shore]

where's the thread

[dense blade]

you haven’t unlocked the jade gourd recipe yet

[shadow void]

I see a picture like this and wonder where all the Hetonite came from, or how much was used to make all those bottles. Is the Hetonite the darker red ones on the top right and the Cuprium ones on the top left? or is it backwards

[dense blade]

how did you get the bp

[wispy shore]

I'm a dumbass

nvm, net i get it

[subtle finch]

[wispy shore]

foiled by my stupidity

[dense blade]

you’re not the only one dw

happens a lot

[wispy shore]

awesome work btw, great AIC

ur my idol

[subtle finch]

[dense blade]

I just arrived here

how long was this going on for

[gentle sentinel]

Not that long

[jolly shore]

Hetonite is the bright one, copium is dark. It only takes 2 hetonite to make a bottle compared to the 5 needed for parts, but yeah I gimp production somewhat to make them. my SC batteries do most of the work in bill exchange anyway

[dense blade]

ok

nice

[wispy shore]

ah, there we go, unlocked

nice

[subtle finch]

stop stalling and do the heavy liquid

[shadow void]

I am just casually sitting on 110k Hetonite, I could make bottles with it and the cuprium thats stored up a small bit

[jolly shore]

I was, but my heavy liquid is being used for the event

or at least the heavy xir that would be used for the liquid

heavy xir will be the longest part of this all, since it's 10s per. Even hetonite fluid is only 8s per

if I am using spare copium for it anyway

I could be faster if I shut down Yaz A production but heavy xir is still my limiting reagent

[vital narwhal]

abandon sc prod on may 14 and slam down triple hxira forge 📈

[jolly shore]

also I do have 80k heavy xira in cryston bottles at least

[vital narwhal]

well, depending how much eff we can squeeze from purinode, you might still be able to have one decent or full speed scw line with triple hxira

[vital narwhal]

don't forget biggest bottle, tianjing courtyard

[dense blade]

watch the rate be worse than the purification unit

hoping it’s at least 1:3

[vital narwhal]

if we can't get at least 1/s that would be tragic

[subtle finch]

free treatment alone is huge in power savings

[dense blade]

whole ah new feature for 200-300 power save

bound to recieve complaints

[subtle finch]

technically it saves more power and space than expanded reactor, so its better than that

[dense blade]

true true

[vital narwhal]

i'm interested to see where they take the fixed world facility concept in the future but yea a lot of complaints bound to come from it

[dense blade]

but 99% of players aren’t minmaxers and hence can’t think of it that way

[winged oriole]

I think the point will be to build a sewage transport network as you explore for the world quest and then upgrade it later to connect to PAC

[subtle finch]

99% also just follow a bp, and don't know what's going on to make such judgement

[dense blade]

[shadow void]

Its kinda one of the things I asked for in one of the Surveys, more ways for the AIC to connect to the world

not saying they did that, just nice to see it

[median pasture]

okay I need to catch up with my power deficit, I have so many good blueprints and designs but I need to spend a day or two rebuilding my mines in wuling and also churning out batteries

is the mine option for all of wuling hydro or electric for originum? I have all of my coprium and the one ferrium spot on hydro but I'm backtracking originum after I had a bad power outage last night

[vital narwhal]

yup the new guides will all have the 'pipe the sewage to this facility' part and you can watch the comment section burn

[dense blade]

surely they add some new kind of upgrade in the aic area next region

[tall tangle]

3h later i'm done with umbral crap and can do aic again

[dense blade]

I don’t wanna think about it

I gotta record that

[unreal laurel]

halo

[dense blade]

[unreal laurel]

bananana

btw,whens the nxt patch?

[dense blade]

running across the map

[subtle finch]

i think the biggest issue is their whales might not care about the factory aspect of the game
i'd be sad to see them tone the aic down

[shadow void]

i'm like 75% BP 25% manually doing it, and I understand everything but the splitter/converger arrays to limit usage. I could get it, but I don't want to, because I just want a proper logistic unit to do that

[subtle finch]

combat aspect definitely needs more attention

[unreal laurel]

we care abt combat?

[dense blade]

maybe leave the aic part alone but make it less necessary

[shadow void]

But literally every other game is combat

[keen river]

unless there are factory fan whales to balance it

[unreal laurel]

i jst press buttons, slowly understand the conditions to activate the battle skills then cook up a random rotation

[dense blade]

the former most likely outweighs the latter

[shadow void]

this would be the simplest solution, just limit pulls behind just really easy things

[dense blade]

they sorta already do

[vital narwhal]

also I guess most guides aren't optimizing for power anyway, but it's a little funny thinking that probably no one will feature in the guide piping sewage from marker stone to save 50 power (unless guide already pipes acid from there ig)

[tall tangle]

characters contribute basically nothing to aic. and we dont roll buildings here

[dense blade]

also I don’t think whales care about a few measly pulls

[dense blade]

holy facility gacha

rolling for forges

[unreal laurel]

whatre we talking abt

[dense blade]

nothing

[keen river]

well, no brains aside, for someone to pull characters, the game has to offer something interesting

with factory might being one thing

[subtle finch]

yeah the gear components is obviously the main reason of the divide and hate against aic

[tall tangle]

oroberyl too now

[vital narwhal]

I think their hedge is the region system, with how you start with not much and the complexity returns to much simpler levels

[subtle finch]

idm aic just being for gifts and furnitures/decorations

[shadow void]

That'd be cool

If we could decorate Dijiang, even better

[keen river]

as i said before, i think the biggest problem with factory is the general friction for people who dont really want to do stuff

like blueprint system being kinda trash

[unreal laurel]

you want standardised codes for cross-server sharing?

[subtle finch]

i feel like most of the og ak is also gameplay modes that you don't want to do, but you might like if you give it a chance

[keen river]

absolutely no reason for blueprints to have such tiny region, no reason for them to be unplaceable right outside AIC, it should be able to add flowers to them so people dont need to place them manually

maybe some better way to connect resources like water

or just allow people to save water part to the blueprint too

and then there is whole friction in the implementation

[subtle finch]

they keep shoving us obscure minigame taken from other games that we gotta learn every new event

[keen river]

different codes for different servers, only being able to share 100 blueprints (so if you are content creators, you essentially can only share like 10 sets of blueprins) => a lot of codes might be expired

[median pasture]

hydro mining for everything in wuling or electric for originum or does it matter

[keen river]

doesnt matter whatsoever

[tall tangle]

og core is td. tactical, thought inducing. much closer to aic in comparison with combat with "hold left mouse button" gameplay

[river wadi]

hydro saves pwoer

[keen river]

unless you want super duper optimized base

[vital narwhal]

hydro can save power, if you don't care about that then w/e

[shadow void]

The only thing to keep in mind is Hydro+Pumps will use more Protocol Capacity

[median pasture]

power is what I need to save for sure at my stage

protocol capacity?

[subtle finch]

sorry, i cant hear you

[shadow void]

not a big deal in outposts, but it could effect Wuling AIC

[river wadi]

can only have certain number of facilities

[median pasture]

what quest did I ignore to not learn about protocol capacity 🙁

[keen river]

well

[shadow void]

its just how many facilities you can place down

[keen river]

there are two protocol capacities to begin with

[median pasture]

okay so something I would have learned eventually

[keen river]

one is just this stuff

the other is hidden until you hit it

[median pasture]

ahh that 220

[shadow void]

Just need to Dige my power now

[subtle finch]

maybe a good middle ground is have alternative paths for production
easy mode but costs a lot of power
hard mode that's power efficient but more complex

[keen river]

thing is, people who want to do complex stuff are actively prevented from it

so its eeh

[subtle finch]

automation fans might just move to another game to satisfy their itch

[vital narwhal]

if you intend to use hydro pumps for mining, braindead way is use one pump per 3 hydro rig. optimized explanation:
each pump produce 1 water per sec, or 6 per 6 sec
mining nodes are high or low purity, and hydro rig consume water faster on high purity
high purity takes 2 over 6 sec, low purity takes 1
so for example, one pump supports 3 high purity, 6 low purity, or combination like 2 high + 2 low

[keen river]

at the end of the day, i guess we will see how the game develops once we get to third region

[median pasture]

I was currently doing 1 pump per 3

[keen river]

so far its still pretty much exploration of possibilities

[shadow void]

Better to just one and done, plan for High Purity

[median pasture]

I switched my wuling originum to electric II for a bit

[vital narwhal]

so far, only region with finalized purity is jingyu valley

[keen river]

but at very least, fixing the blueprint system for players who dont want to engage with AIC

would go a long way for sure

[vital narwhal]

don't put electric II on originium, same performance with more power cost

[subtle finch]

the only way i could see that happening is if they let them copy the entire region's facilities

[median pasture]

oh? down to 1's or just stop being a little b and go hydro

[vale shoal]

Your choice

[shadow void]

Mining Rig 2s are only needed for Ferrium

[subtle finch]

maybe i wont mind region loadout actually

[vital narwhal]

1s are better on originium, hydros a bit better than that

[shadow void]

Originium nodes see no benefit

[median pasture]

stop being a little b and go hydro - I just need 2 days or so of battery building to get out of this power hole

[shadow void]

your production rates are based on purity

[median pasture]

it's just been a struggle making enough batteries to not be constantly juggling with 12 thermal banks of originum

[vale shoal]

Just delete the base and rebuild it right now? Like get everything done in 1 hour

[vale shoal]

Brother

How much valley 4 battery do you have

[vital narwhal]

I would rather import batteries from v4 and get xiranite+wuling battery production running

[median pasture]

0 - can I build v4 and export it to wuling? how stupid am I for real

[vale shoal]

What the fuck

What in the actual fuck

[keen river]

you can transfer some automatically, but its kinda shit

or you can go to dijiang

and there you can transfer like 1.3k items with three clicks

[median pasture]

I thought the whole point of different made batteries is to force you to use the specific battery group

[shadow void]

I've been running my Wuling on HC Valley batteries since I got here

[shadow void]

Its a choice really, you can if you want

[vital narwhal]

go to dijiang, open backpack, empty inventory, click top middle button of panel 'Switch Depot', ctrl click on batteries to fill inventory, switch depot back to wuling, ctrl click to shove batteries into depot

[keen river]

fck, my gourds are about to overflow

good thing i looked into those right now lmao

[shadow void]

down to ~1/m HCV cuz i'm burning all the Ori

[median pasture]

thanks

[keen river]

i probably should setup ori burner tbh

[shadow void]

unless I make Xiranite Comps, but I'll probably end up just shipping Packed Ori crust over from V4

[keen river]

so i get 250 power / 30 ori 🤔

ah no

it burns faster

[shadow void]

480/m supports like 3400 or 3200

i forgot so i just do 3200

[subtle finch]

yeah 3200

64*50 iirc

i only burn 800hc a day on top of that

[keen river]

hmm

4 banks per belt isnt it

[vital narwhal]

not really decided on if want to put effort into switching to 12/m hxira

[median pasture]

okay 2 hydro 1 pump

[vital narwhal]

think I can barely reach 116k jg without

[shadow void]

[240/m Ori Power]EFO010U97aUu0UiaaE179

[subtle finch]

oh i forgot i need to drill zhuang fangyi

[vital narwhal]

electric drill holy

i'm going to retire an alt

it's too taxing

[shadow void]

What was the thinking behind 2 accounts?

[vital narwhal]

enkad more fun than alt at this point

[upper fiber]

man playing zhuang team and last rite on umbral feels like i'm playing different game

[subtle finch]

i think im playing her wrong w/o antal or arclight

[keen river]

🤔

[valid gazelle]

I have awaken

[subtle finch]

[valid gazelle]

Oh my god what is that originum power house

Tbh i was hoping we could get more power out of dense originium

[keen river]

well basically

since origiunm has no use right now

[shadow void]

well, looks like its working, Conduit is dry, and the pipes going into the Crucibles are full, excess gets treated, tho i may wanna put another water treatment incase Hvy Xiranite stops for some reason

[keen river]

we can just burn it all and save some valley4 batteries

[valid gazelle]

Cuz.. sandleaf > makes everything better > sandleaf makes originium better > why cant we use them

[shadow void]

I could make LCW, but thats a waste of xiranite imo at this point, and i cant make any more SCW

and the event has us selling nothing but Jade Gourds

[vital narwhal]

wasn't satisfied with gacha luck and also just loved the experience insanely, and in some ways it was rewarding, like I could optimize power lines better and also ended up with better zipline route on one alt too. aic setup not too bad, just import bp from main. but with better latent luck on main and improvement of enkad and engaging more talking about factory, not really worth all this extra duplicated story slog

[valid gazelle]

The value is just too good

[valid gazelle]

I would love to go through the story when we actual fought Nefarith those cutscenes were good

And that's about it about the story for me really

[shadow void]

really want a replay feature

[valid gazelle]

Yep

[subtle finch]

knowing hg, it's in the works

[valid gazelle]

Apart from the story.. not being to expectations.. those cutscenes at that part were splendid

[tall tangle]

soupsoup story was more engaging to me than dragonslaying. felt more... arknighty

[subtle finch]

the atmosphere was great, but ruan yi is dumb

[valid gazelle]

[keen river]

neferith fall was bit anticlimatic tbh

i fully expect her to respawn

[shadow void]

Havent played AK, but my opinion on it is that its pretty dark, or atleast theres some pretty dark stuff in it

[valid gazelle]

YES PLS. GIVE ME MY NEFARITH MOMMY BACK

[subtle finch]

[vital narwhal]

ruan yi was kinda dumb yea, but I think it's understandable from the angle of being unable to let it go no matter what

[keen river]

she will respawn as ||blight/aether-based reconverger|| (you heard it first here)

[vital narwhal]

so he take the pie in the sky

[tall tangle]

as if she isnt ^^ stockaders arent very smart, but plotlines of drama, betrayal, intrigues is better imo than flashy spectacles

[valid gazelle]

Wait.. (ofc i know not to expect the unexpected) but have 9+3 xyranite layout actually.. has a reason

[subtle finch]

some chinese literature nerd would defend ruan yi
actually the bull symbolizes the

[ruby sorrel]

the problem I have with the flashy stuff is the big nerf when I control them for combat

[valid gazelle]

We dont waste sandleaf

[valid gazelle]

Fangyi

Where the giant sword at

[vital narwhal]

she strong and flashy enough as it is lmao

[keen river]

she swings it around in her ulti, but its weirdly done so you dont really see it

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but it doesn't oneshot the boss

[keen river]

just assume stuff that endfield faces is stronger than your average rock 😅

you can always downgrade the world progression to Rossi experience

[subtle finch]

my fav scene is actually tangtang trying to convince her uncle and the traitors to come back

[keen river]

or you get part of it in the etchspace salvage since it doesnt scale

so you one hit everything

[valid gazelle]

one thing i do want to see more.. are endfield guns in cutscenes

like .. c'mon

wew're being attacked by waves of enemies

where the guns at

we're endfield right ?

[keen river]

yeah

[tall tangle]

the one after beating ruan was nice. also moments just after falling with bridge are good

[keen river]

should have dropped a bunch of mortars from orbit

[subtle finch]

[ruby sorrel]

I need a perlica cutscene where she just drops 100s of those pillars she uses in ult

[valid gazelle]

cant be a fully automated factory when you cant defense yourself

[tall tangle]

instead there was a random artillery barrage in v4 NOT done by endfield

[subtle finch]

i feel they really locked themself with the future regions, this means were coming back to terra right?

[valid gazelle]

i just accidentally reseted a 42-credit arsenal ticket...

[keen river]

they havent really locked themselves with anything tbh

we could go to like 3 places after wuling easily

[shadow void]

What do you mean locked themselves? theres plenty of things we could do in Talos-II

[subtle finch]

that's still not many imo

[tall tangle]

it's been 150years bro. give up. terra might be cooked and we cant know

[ruby sorrel]

wym locked there's a whole civ belt to have problems in

[keen river]

at very least you have like 4 big cities, the whole north region, the hunting grounds for arclight and her people etc

[valid gazelle]

didnt lone trail say that there is a black hole in this solar system

[shadow void]

We'd have to solve the Aggeloi problem and find that gate that got closed. Or did it get destroyed?

[subtle finch]

i imagine arclight's village are just a bunch of hippies 😭

[vital narwhal]

I feel like it's going to be hard to come back to terra, like wouldn't that probably insanely spoil og ak story?

[valid gazelle]

oh no not the tribals again

Sargon flashbacks

[keen river]

tbh, i imagine them as some sort of biker gang 😅

she constantly speaks about fixing her bike

[valid gazelle]

speaking of bikers..

when are we able to ride that bike

[subtle finch]

if next region doesnt have new method of travel, we riot

im tired of ziplines

[keen river]

sesqas dragged their skeleton fermut and built city around it too

i kinda expect one of zones to be constantly in move tbh

might be an interesting place

[vital narwhal]

legit we know almost nothing about state of terra pregate besides that things were calm enough geopolitically for a lot of different peoples to pioneer talos ii

[ruby sorrel]

I need a zipline gun so I can shoot ziplines to max dist instead of manually running them

[valid gazelle]

you cant just put it here and expect me to not expect to ride it game

[tall tangle]

we'll more likely see teleport ziplines or some similar bs faster than cars or bikes

[ruby sorrel]

you should ride the drill and the bunny too

[keen river]

funny enough, we drive it with perlica in opening scene of valley4

[iron stratus]

maybe in 10 years

[keen river]

and then its never mentioned again

[shadow void]

Those flat tires tho

that needs to change

[vital narwhal]

there's a decent chance of bike in eventual desert area. if it doesn't happen there tho, chances are cooked

[valid gazelle]

we were a pillion

[shadow void]

I dunno, are there bikes IRL that have flat tires like that?

[valid gazelle]

no

[ruby sorrel]

doesn't work that way cus bikes lean when turning

[valid gazelle]

bikes dont turn cuz they turn, they have to use the shapre of the tires to turn

[shadow void]

I'd imagine thats hard af to turn

[valid gazelle]

especially the front tire

[subtle finch]

that sounds like shirou emiya quote 😭

[ruby sorrel]

relying on just turning the wheel to turn would probs flip you

[valid gazelle]

good luck fighting centrifugal while turning without leaning

[ruby sorrel]

people revive when they are killed

[keen river]

its same with normal non-powered bikes, but people dont really realize it

[shadow void]

you really only "turn" at low speed, after a certain point its alotta lean + some turn

[valid gazelle]

also.. flat tire in the front makes counter steering near impossible..

which is the crucial step to engage in a turn

[wild acorn]

i am so confused rn how is this making 12/m jade gourds when theres only 1 packaging machine, it takes 10s for 1 jade gourd so u can only make 6/m but somehow when i was looking at my aic report it was making 12 just now?????? is there a ghost in the factory or what

[shadow void]

I've only been riding a motorcycle for less than a year

[ruby sorrel]

you have another hidden jade line

[vital narwhal]

gotta be another jade line

u forgor

[valid gazelle]

LET ME RIDE THE BIKE GAME

(and ofc change the tires...)

[shadow void]

(not me) from website

[vital narwhal]

inb4 perlica bike in trailers really indeed just because lowlight wanted it 😭

[real crescent]

vehicles + 200m ziplines for a massive area

[shadow void]

I've removed the vestigial tail on mine

[valid gazelle]

i keep that... until i find a good tail light with signals

[vital narwhal]

honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get vehicles and instead focused on better infrastructure transport tho

[valid gazelle]

that's good too but c'mon ~ you've already flexed in the trailer that we have a bike

at least let the bike be ride-able

[ruby sorrel]

cutscene only power

[valid gazelle]

even on ex astris too, they rode a fictional bike and in the story it broke

and when we got to fix it, it got destroyed

what did the bike do to you hai mao

[real crescent]

i mean i can see why they wouldnt want vehicles in the game. but ye, maybe in the future

[shadow void]

Mines integrated into this

[real crescent]

if they add vehicles i wouldnt be surprised if we need to make a fuel production line to use them

[valid gazelle]

yamahas have the winglets there

[tall tangle]

like that sword of electric woman

[valid gazelle]

i guess i can try to mod a light strip into the winglet

[real crescent]

thats a solid upgrade, the vestigal tail looks pretty ass

[valid gazelle]

put the license plate underneath and 10/10

[charred lodge]

how many mats/hr is metastorage

[valid gazelle]

but tbh.. im not keen on sport bikes anymore...... i want adventures now

[valid gazelle]

depends on the mats.. like if its raw ore its 1500, but the more you process it the less you get

except dense originium.. we actually gain more

[charred lodge]

how much for dense originium?

[valid gazelle]

still 1500

[wild acorn]

how are ppl doing 12/m jade gourds, dont u need 12/m heavy xiranite? but arent we only limited to 6/m heavy xiranite

[charred lodge]

1500 per hour?

[valid gazelle]

1500 every hour ye

[ruby sorrel]

just make 12/m heavy

[upper fiber]

you can even make 24/min heavy if you stocked

[valid gazelle]

not really because its flexible..

[stable zodiac]

you can do 12 per min heavy

[wild acorn]

isnt there not enough forge of the sky

[valid gazelle]

there's 8

[wild acorn]

guess im just stupid gah

[valid gazelle]

just enough

[ruby sorrel]

yes there is

[vital narwhal]

you can do 12/m heavy if sacrifice production of something else
aka less scw batt

[shadow void]

12/m Jade Gourd sorta necessitates removeing SCW. Depending on your stock of materials you coudl get away with 6/m SCW

[ruby sorrel]

don't need scw for power

[valid gazelle]

you can live with 1 scw per minute usage

or.. 5/6 scw in my case

which makes my 52930 battery lasts for 40 days

[wild acorn]

ah no wonder, im doing 4 scw/m ig ill just leave it at that im too lazy to destroy everythign

[ruby sorrel]

power

[wild acorn]

how r u getting it, through meta storage?

[valid gazelle]

wait.. now im interested in the hcv now

[shadow void]

you can manually transfer 1750 in like 3-5 seconds

[ruby sorrel]

cus I rather make comps with the 12 xira than scw

[shadow void]

a full 68k takes like 5mins to move over, mind numbing, but doable

[ruby sorrel]

moving stuff manually is just trolling

[wild acorn]

man i am so not optimized. faurk dis im just waiting till next update to redo everything

i heard someone say the test area will have new stuff so we gonna have to redo everything is dat true?

[valid gazelle]

wait this is interesting..

[shadow void]

If you got the event locked in, thats a good thing to do

[keen river]

hard to tell

[shadow void]

Yes, all factories will need rejigging

[keen river]

it has more resources and 4 more forges

[shadow void]

unless you are setup for it already

[keen river]

so that changes quite a lot

[tall tangle]

man, i'm glad i stored heavyX before all that, so i dont have to bother with power replacement...

[wild acorn]

aight then its in like 6 days im not redoing everything then

[keen river]

but i dont think much will change tbh

[ancient charm]

5 days to go

[keen river]

do your combat event in the meantime

[valid gazelle]

depends on whether you are running groups of 3 xyranite or groups of 2 xyranite or if you base doesnt care about being modular

[ancient charm]

Already trimmed

[valid gazelle]

my 10+2 plan is busted

[ruby sorrel]

the combat event takes less time than aic cus not split in 2 parts

[keen river]

it was pretty easy this time tbh

[ancient charm]

Eh

[valid gazelle]

now i have a make a 9+3 system

[ancient charm]

First 5 yea

[valid gazelle]

[shadow void]

whats the extra Ori for?

[ancient charm]

The last one is a bit ggs

Have to dodge constantly

Boss attack frequency is a bit too much

[shadow void]

are we going to be still making 12/m SCW or what?

[valid gazelle]

what ?

[ruby sorrel]

"use atk" "jump into projectile" gg

it's mildly annoying

[valid gazelle]

the last one was easy imo

[keen river]

dunno, it didnt seem too bad honestly

[valid gazelle]

its the stat check that was hard

because its free staggering

[tall tangle]

worst one for me was suicide slugs, but trimmed

[ruby sorrel]

rossi is a jumpy girl

[valid gazelle]

the stat check was a pain

[keen river]

suicide slugs i let like 3 through, they barely do damage

[valid gazelle]

i let 4 through, my team evaporated

[ancient charm]

Tha hard one is bcos of how much damage you take the moment you get solidified

[valid gazelle]

you dont

[ancient charm]

You do?

[keen river]

highly depends on the team tbh

[valid gazelle]

the thing is that.. the mechanic of that map is you have to interrupt the boss

which is a big window

[tall tangle]

i cheesed it with 3x80lvls and 1x90lvl

[valid gazelle]

lemme show you

[ancient charm]

No need

I already trimmed it

[keen river]

its probably much easier with range team, i took it with laev and it was okeyish

[ancient charm]

Just saying it was the worst of the bunch for me

[keen river]

got solidified a bunch but eh

[shadow void]

_> still havent touched them

[keen river]

its defo the hardest of bunch

[valid gazelle]

iirc... laeva is the best against tidalklast

i feel like she did significantly more dmg than yvonne

[shadow void]

will a P0 maxed Fangyi wipe?

[keen river]

but it felt easier than for example the rocket guy from previous event

[valid gazelle]

yes

[keen river]

the one that stacked fire

[ancient charm]

The quillbeast one was brutal if you don't trim the minion quillbeast numbers

[ruby sorrel]

I ignored the minions on that

[vital narwhal]

main thing with last boss is pay attention to the telegraph for attack where it slams arms into ground and does charge attack, because sometimes that slam doesn't have red flash, need to be ready otherwise it does like a couple thousand dmg

[valid gazelle]

same

[ancient charm]

Cos laev team usually stacks heat and you dont want that to happen for him

[valid gazelle]

the minions will keep spawn

best you smack the host

[valid gazelle]

he stacks it for you

you dont stack it on him

[ancient charm]

Yes, then you accidentally corner yourself and nowhere to run

[ancient charm]

The memo I got is dont use Wulfguard

[valid gazelle]

How To Tidalklast

[upper fiber]

anyone cleared using last rite no tang2 team

[tall tangle]

me. not main last rite

[valid gazelle]

you can... he helps you stack faster

[stable zodiac]

I just cheese it with Ardelia... im not proud of it

[daring rapids]

[plucky lava]

I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm not able to produce Xircon or Hetonite at all despite following the blueprints. What exactly should I be doing?

[stable zodiac]

but what done is done

[tall tangle]

i never control LR as she is slow af...
you might be surprised, but those did it:

[valid gazelle]

^

[ruby sorrel]

just keep atking until you learn to not get hit

[craggy oyster]

Im curious , do ppl asking like this with souls game or smt

[valid gazelle]

inb4 CC:
-50% stamina regen
-dodge becomes unavailable

[craggy oyster]

cuz that hella hard to "teach" them how to combat in those kinda games

[vital narwhal]

going to need more details and maybe some screenshots. did you connect the fluid pipes? not really sure what the issue is atm

[plucky lava]

Give me a moment.

[upper fiber]

follow bp for liquid is just ....

[tall tangle]

(complete in under 120sec) and i'm walking outa window

[craggy oyster]

that depend on the bp ofc. we need more infor

[valid gazelle]

i dont think we're getting a timer

but we're getting something else

[upper fiber]

no sp regen is the goat

[plucky lava]

The one provided in game. I'm about to upload screenshots.

[valid gazelle]

boss + 120% hp, +500 ded, +120% atk

[keen river]

i could never get into souls genre, those games feel so fucking slow to me

[valid gazelle]

im not cut for souls either..

i like hack n slash like dmc

[craggy oyster]

ye that my jam too

[daring rapids]

Me wen monkey game

[craggy oyster]

and i like offline story driven game

[daring rapids]

[pulsar willow]

yet another one of my pals asked for my base blueprints

[valid gazelle]

aaah our hero awakens

🏅

[craggy oyster]

preferably zombies

[vital narwhal]

there'll probably risk where if enemy hits you at all, instant arts reaction

[valid gazelle]

@daring rapids

[pulsar willow]

I feel like it's a pattern for anyone who is remotely interested in AIC building 😄

[daring rapids]

I want Endfield to have a no hit game mode

The challenge

[tall tangle]

thats fine i can fight forever. what i hate is forced dot or damage, restricting your team to healer use or time limits.
i finished today's frog battle with single character surviving and roughly 20 frogs on screen

[valid gazelle]

yes that's Tidalklast

[valid gazelle]

you know what i hate most.. game locking you out of 80% of your arsenal

[plucky lava]

What exactly were you trying to say?

[valid gazelle]

(fk you 3Z)

[vital narwhal]

would be crazy if they let you suffer from all four arts reactions at once

[subtle finch]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[upper fiber]

you can't instant copy paste for liquid

[subtle finch]

one day ill memorize this

[valid gazelle]

starting off with corrosion

[tall tangle]

that is slightly... irritating. yes. but bearable imo

[valid gazelle]

not today ?

[valid gazelle]

its called locked to meta

imagine if in the previous patch you dont roll

wait my bad*

[tall tangle]

"just surtr it" situations?

[valid gazelle]

actually

[upper fiber]

just zhuang it now

[valid gazelle]

its wrong to compare the 2 games since arknights is sooo much more forgiving in terms of team coms

as in you can clear pretty much anything

with most teams

[tall tangle]

well worst cases here just forced usage of healer... sure hope it happened less, but it's not 80% for now

[keen river]

i have always used arderlia in my laev team so it changes little

[pulsar willow]

wow new umbral is just another bullshit lol

[upper fiber]

anti single dps stage

[stable zodiac]

arderlia with lynx set is my solution for any time im running into a roadblock

[keen river]

^

[plucky lava]

I was asking for help. Are you going to provide any?

[ruby sorrel]

wym anti single dps

[upper fiber]

and you're not posting any info for us...

we're not god

[subtle finch]

bro vaguepost more than ardashir 😭

[shadow void]

48/m x2 Outposts, 60/m in the AIC Jade Gourds. Just in case

[ruby sorrel]

but ardashir doesn't want help

[tall tangle]

probably slugs one

[ruby sorrel]

is gil cheating? I just rossi the whole thing

[valid gazelle]

Gilberta is perfectly fine

She's really showing her mature side

[craggy oyster]

gil pretty cheating this time

[valid gazelle]

😭

[upper fiber]

me with xaihi arde gilb.... triple healer

[valid gazelle]

Oh god

Ardelia's healing is stupid tho

[tall tangle]

imo she is probably most broken now. i also dont have her

[valid gazelle]

How can one heal like a nuke

[upper fiber]

yeah, we need area heal

[shadow void]

yep, 60/m in AIC is best i can do, maybe if i got rid of the 6x 6/m bps and replaced them with 12/m bps

[keen river]

ardelia with 2 potential pretty much area heals

[median pasture]

rebuilt my entire mining setup across all of Wuling, took a while but th pathing is optimized and I'm rocking 2hydro1pump for everything now

[tall tangle]

or just team heal. less but for all

[ruby sorrel]

snow?

[valid gazelle]

You can do 3 ~

Saves you a pump

At the one spot on the river bank

[median pasture]

I'll go back tomorrow and clean it up

[upper fiber]

who use snow

[shadow void]

some locations you cant do that w/o running pipes halfway across the map, or conduits

[plucky lava]

You just said prior that I can't just follow a blueprint, I figure you'd have more to add than what you did, which is why I asked the question - not that I expected you to read minds.

[ruby sorrel]

2 hydro/pump what

[median pasture]

I am also going to run around tomorrow and remove some conduits

[ruby sorrel]

literally making more work for no benefit

[median pasture]

it's called learning merci

[upper fiber]

for liquid included bp, you need to pipe the stuff to input and such

[median pasture]

have a little mercy on the new guy ...

[ruby sorrel]

I'm just curious how someone would decide swapping is worth doing on 2/pump

[stable zodiac]

man that reminded me I hate that I cant change the pipe output on the purification

just why

[median pasture]

swapping? I was running portable originum / electric II's so the rebuild was necessary

[shadow void]

You can't just follow a BP, theres more to it even in V4. Like whats your RDL, how many ore nodes are tapped, if you have things already setup. Wuling adds pipes and conduit connections into the mix and only bps that have conduit connections inside them will save connections between conduits, otherwise you have to do it manually

[plucky lava]

That was already implied after construction. The issue is it constantly clogging and therefore not producing anything after a short while.

[craggy oyster]

same with why we can only input water from the right to forge and planter

lol

cuz dev want us suffer

[upper fiber]

yeah, that's why we need some screenshot of your factory

[ruby sorrel]

does it really matter that much? you just build around the building ports

[plucky lava]

Right, let me get back to that.

[craggy oyster]

it is , since i want symetrical

[upper fiber]

i hope it isn't 'kyo' bp

[ruby sorrel]

just do rotational symmetry..... all the symmetry ppl only like plane smh

[plucky lava]

The in-game blueprints, if that wasn't clear.

[craggy oyster]

fair enough lol

[shadow void]

Sorry if i misunderstood, I'm not familiar with in-game bps.

[vital narwhal]

i'm still going to need screenshot because i have not seen 99% of those

[upper fiber]

i need to go to work in 10mins... hope you're fast enough

there are others here as well