aic-factory

[nova osprey]

very unholy

[final sierra]

you can use all 180/min Xiranite to make 12/min Heavy Xiranite

[jovial breach]

Wait but when i change to that i also lose xiranite prod

[nova osprey]

they already are

[jovial breach]

This shit is not mathing

[nova osprey]

yeah for a bit dont worry about it

you're gonna have to run neg xiranite for a while

hence why i said theoretical 19/min usage

19/hxira usage*

i might do that im capped on hxira anyways

sorry scw*

[jovial breach]

How can you be capped on heavy wtf

[final sierra]

and power all only with 3/min HC Valley Battery + all not used Originium which gives you 5000 W

[crimson spire]

I found the problem my sewage ip was so low
Thanks everyone who helped me

[nova osprey]

i meant scw mb

[jovial breach]

Yep that's what im doing

[crimson abyss]

How many production lines I need to get the 20k things to get the trimmed medal on the AIC event? Has anyone made the production line for it already?

[nova osprey]

though tbh since im probably not gonna do the 116k gourds for the last stretch of the event.. im gonna have 116k hxira leftover

[jovial breach]

Just do it

[nova osprey]

might just start running 12/min comps lol

[nova osprey]

maybe

[final sierra]

28 hours with 12/min

[jovial breach]

One line is 6/min, that will give you 8.6k a day, so just less than 3 days to get 20k

But you'll need 60k jade to buy out 2nd shop assuming you don't have any cert beforehand

[crimson abyss]

Thanks. I will look if I found a blueprint to it them.

[sick basin]

If youre eu

EFO0172UAAE49e58EO0Ai

[nova osprey]

ugh two more days to buy out tcreds for event

[crimson abyss]

I bought all the things on the first tab already. But the new thing is too expensive to make, and overcomnplicated to built. I was thinking if it is worth the effort only for a medal and nothing more.

[final sierra]

12/min Jade example (all parts have EU/NA codes)
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=D2C4h7s3N1k8M2

place in order:

1. EFO010U96093E1i8iE179 (Ori Power 2600)
2. EFO0136uI3u2Uoa3A0579 (Battery 50%)
3. 3.1. EFO012I4524A6O8OieIOo (subAIC1 storage)
   3.2. EFO01Iao8Io5i39uo5o08 (Xiranite v7)
   3.3. EFO01Iao8Io5i39u35o08 (Sandleaf x4)
4. EFO01o083o8Oeu6UiIieO (Heavy XirX2+Cup)
5. EFO01Iao8Io5i39315o08 (Heto 75%)
6. EFO01u1IouI4A80EEAoOU (Jade Gound X2)
7. EFO01A5ieAi1I7EuO9ieO (Heto Part 33%)

*note Ferium ore usage is 82.5/min

[jovial breach]

Damn eu privileges

[sick basin]

Its also the best item to make for money
So

[crimson abyss]

I can already dry the outpost bills with the medical thing and batteries.

[sick basin]

We did too
Doesnt make that statement any less true im afraid

[jovial breach]

It can be worth or not depends on the person, but yes you can just keep your old 12/min sc and chill with 6/min gourd instead of going for 12/min gourd like people here do

[crimson abyss]

Being true and being valid are not exactly the same thing.

[sick basin]

[crimson abyss]

Yeah, I will keep the normal gourd and only buy the items. The trimmed medal is not really necessary. Thanks.

[nova osprey]

uh

are you doing 12/min scw and 6/min hxira?

or were you

[crimson abyss]

What is scw and hxira? I don't know the terms, sorry.😅

[river wadi]

sc wulign battery, heavy xiranite

[nova osprey]

sc wuling batteries and heavy xiranite

[crimson abyss]

I only have one line for each of the batteries. I use that system that uses the reserve power to save batteries. I had one line of heavy xiranite but I dismantled it to reorganize my AICs and now I have no drive to rebuild all again.😆

[sick basin]

[river wadi]

heavy xiranite is simple just feed 2 xiranites and 1 xircon effluent

[sick basin]

So youre making, lc and sc ?

[foggy pasture]

Can someone help me figure out why the 1st setup has a stable self-sustaining amount of pollution while the 2nd setup is constantly starved for pollution

[sick basin]

How wack

[crimson abyss]

Yes. I use this https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en to save batteries. Only SC produce too much.

[nova osprey]

top right crucible clogged for some reason

[sick basin]

Ik about dige
But you can use the same system using sc batteries

No need for lc

[crimson abyss]

I will only migrate to full SC when all production lines of Wuling have been implemented. Right now, Having to rebuild parts of the AIC every patch is too much hasle.

[river badge]

is it even possible to use only 1 crucible and 1 expand crucible for maximum xircon

[foggy pasture]

Its because all crucibles are full of liquid xiranite, but I don't see why that is the issue

[nova osprey]

you have an extra water treatment plant on your second one

[river badge]

or i still have to split it like before

[nova osprey]

half your sewage is going to there instead of factory

[river badge]

i havent touched the expand thing since the update

[sick basin]

Think u need 2 expanded? Forgot exactly

[nova osprey]

yeah you need 2 expanded

[river badge]

oh

[nova osprey]

just not enough space

@foggy pasture did you see it?

[foggy pasture]

I deadass don't know when or why I placed that there thank you

[nova osprey]

np

[vale cairn]

Is it normal to use 1 forge for heavy xiranite and 7 for xiranite production?

[sick basin]

Yes

U cant really do anything else with em

[final sierra]

you can
if 6 for Xira, 2 for Heavy Xira then you can do stable 12/min Jage Gourd for example

[sick basin]

Ik
But im not removing my sc for that

[magic geyser]

Just rip up your whole factory and redo it.

Wait I only have 6/min gourd am I doing it wrong?

[river wadi]

1 packaging unit makes 6 per min

[magic geyser]

Should I have two packaging unit?

[river wadi]

depends if you have enough (heavy) xiranite

[magic geyser]

I definitely do not have enough heavy xiranite.

[mental birch]

This setup jams everyday

[keen river]

are you even endfielding if its second day of the event and your wuling depot is not half full? /s

[solid quiver]

if yours is 6/min heavy xironite no need make it bigger cuz you can buy whole phase 2 excluding additional t credits

[sharp violet]

who in here that saw the sledgehammer mortar didn't think do this immediately on an energy avulsion just to farm it

[solid quiver]

use batteries for combat facilities

[sharp violet]

nah its look better this way

[solid quiver]

it's power friendly

[sharp violet]

just a ritual for the angeloi that spawn in just to be sacrificed for the sake of the factory

[tall tangle]

stop... get some help...

[dense blade]

full of smth else

[keen badge]

"Legend has it that the salvos were so powerful, released so much heat, they generated their own air current that would carry the smell of pulverized Aggeloi to several kilometers from the 'killing fields'" 📖 🧐
🪦

[hidden hornet]

That’s wild

Too bad we can’t keep them

[magic geyser]

Okay thank you!

[frail trail]

Why did I do this to myself

IT'S 2 IN THE MORNING

i have class at 7 tomorrow and a final on saturday

[green sleet]

Which outpost would be the best place to start from for that new area on the 14th for our extra sewage?

[river wadi]

get good sleep

[frail trail]

i hope my factory doesnt brick itself randomly

[keen river]

aic core almost for sure

but you will likely need to also drag pipe from marker's stone

[hidden hornet]

Just store it in bottles

I have like 140k sewage in bottles for that

So I hope it was sewage

[vast iron]

Setting up jade gourd cant be that hard

[candid wadi]

one of the reasons I use aic for all multiple liquid reactions. Also its easier to drag pipe from the small acid pool before the marker stone area and manifolds allow more acid to pass.

[vast iron]

I do all my acid stuff in the subpac

[jovial breach]

You're not alone

[subtle finch]

that's a creepy thing to say 2 in the morning

[jovial breach]

Look behind you

[subtle finch]

[dense blade]

not the 3 am shit bruh

my personal “sleep schedule” has become so cooked 2 am doesn’t even sound late anymore

[green sleet]

Ah beans. Time for a redesign 🥲

[keen river]

not really

we dont even know how this facility will work exactly

[green sleet]

Just incase tho, i want to have the realestate for it if it ends up being a core thing

[nova saffron]

Anyone got any advice for a relatively new player on what products to actually focus on in wuling? Only been playing for about 12 days but don't have access to meta storage yet, kinda going into wuling blind and broke lmao.

This is what i've got currently, core AIC is making sandflowers on rotation, LC batteries and the Xironite components.

sky king one is just making dense originium powder on repeat for main AIC

Marker stone one is just xiranite

-- Cant put a second sky forge because of power and sand leave limitation is there because i only have the first core AIC area exapnsion at the moment so a bit tight on space. This is why i would appreciate if i need to be making other things that are more optimal and would love some advice

[subtle finch]

you need buses first to make other things more effectively, save up, do sell elastic goods, do deliveries

jade gourd is the highest efficiency item to make rn, so you want to finish the story and unlock the entire tech tree too, at least everything involving heavy xiranite and hetonite

[nova saffron]

ye the depos i struggled with because i made the xironite component one but was net zero because all xironate was waking components so couldnt craft the depo buses

[foggy pasture]

Is there any other way I can make this smaller

[nova saffron]

Only thing is currently I probably don't have enough space to make the components needed for hetonite and also will I need to have a cuprium part production if I run out of hydro mining rigs

And for acid resistant pumps and conduits

[river wadi]

replace that protocol stash in the top right with a depot loader

[foggy pasture]

Oh yeah true, though I don't know what'd I do with the extra space unfortunately

[river wadi]

Saves power

[foggy pasture]

saves a whole 5 power yeah

[subtle finch]

there

[scenic orchid]

lowkey is there any point in still making the jade gourd after you clear out the shop

not like my production would ever be less than the bill generation

[keen river]

well, the gourds are quite good moneywise

and if interpretation is right, you should get extra money for them that the outpost wouldnt be able to provide

[opal tapir]

is it possible to get the 50k t credit thing theres only like 6 days until even ends
my production is 6/min for the new goud

[scenic orchid]

500 jade gourds

[opal tapir]

what

[craggy oyster]

might be close. but well u can clear most of it. A few k T-credit woulndt hurt

[opal tapir]

man im always out of t credits tbh

[foggy pasture]

actual wizard wtf, also forgot I could just have pipe conduits outside the space

[keen river]

its only like 33k gourds to buy those coins

[subtle finch]

it should take 4 days to clear everything in that screenshot at 6/min rate

[opal tapir]

all of em? how many days will it take tho

[opal tapir]

oh okay its good then ig

[keen river]

at 6 gourds / min? 4 days

[opal tapir]

so ig i can get everything ; D

[spice owl]

Yeah I was legit worried I would -have- to break the whole factory and redo my battery setups

[nova saffron]

In assuming same as valley one, mainly upgrade the core AIC and then just go by order of how expensive each upgrade is ?

[spice owl]

but you seem to be able to earn everything just redirecting stuff that would otherwise go into parts

[scenic orchid]

my base looks scuffed as hell cus im patchworking event stuff on it I actually reached the facility limit

[foggy pasture]

Actually, wouldn't this eventually clog with acid? Pumps intake 2u/s acid and crucibles take 2u/s acid

The purification unit's 0.5u/s acid feeds back into the crucibles which would eventually clog

[stable zodiac]

this is why I start to modularize my setup to allow flexible remove / replace them, with the upcoming 4 additonal forges I should premade a module for increasing the heavy xiranite output too

[green sleet]

Modular bps ftw

[craggy oyster]

the testing area will be at south of Wuling city right?

[scenic orchid]

I found this design and I quite like it

[subtle finch]

this is what we would call a no prefill system, if you place the entire top half via copy-paste or blueprint, it should be fine with the 1/s rate of the pump
but if you make it by hand, acid could fill the reactors while everything is not fully connected. that would cause a clog from the 2/s acid prefill

[scenic orchid]

mr breast give me moneg

[keen badge]

Oooh only the goods exchange lasts for 11 days but the event closes in 6?
... my base needs a major overhaul >.<
Gonna blueprint what I currently have and nuke it tomorrow, I can always build it back (even potentially better)

[foggy pasture]

Bit confused, how would 1/s from the pump + 0.5/s from the purifier meet the needs of 2/s of the crucibles?

[green sleet]

Whatre the benefits of using a no prefill system?

[stable zodiac]

this look clean, too bad im tight fit in the hetonite area right now, saving it for later on

[subtle finch]

1/s of the pump alone would meet the needs of the 2 reactors, reactors can only process at 0.5/s rate
ive been using and testing these backfeed layout for a while now

[foggy pasture]

importing refined cuprium makes this a lot cleaner yeah

[foggy pasture]

so the purifier meets the needs of the other 2 reactors despite being 0.5/s?

[scenic orchid]

yea I got sewage stuff back in the main base

[subtle finch]

the image actually uses 2 pumps, 1 for each pipe, mb for not capturing it right
it's just i backfeed the acid instead of dumping it back to the lake

[scenic orchid]

can't let all that sludge go to waste 🤤

[stable zodiac]

did any madlad pumping this back to their main base yet, im curious about your setup

[foggy pasture]

How does backfeeding the acid not cause the crucibles to eventually fill and clog? Just doesn't or it just takes an absurdly long time?

[vale bramble]

i had this piped to the tianjing courtyard once

two times actually

trans-wuling piss pipeline

[scenic orchid]

can you not bluetooth it

[vale bramble]

the conduits aren't free unlike pipes

[subtle finch]

good question, i actually just checked mine
it does indeed clog it with acid, but not "clog" the system

[foggy pasture]

Wouldn't that reduce the efficiency of the purifier? Is it running non-stop?

[hidden temple]

production clogging only staggers/halts if the output is what clogs, not the input

[subtle finch]

it shouldn't i tested 50%/75%/100% efficiency backfeed a while back for an extended period without issue

[foggy pasture]

I'm aware, just wondering how the hell is the purification output isn't going to clog

[winged dirge]

I am finally done 😭 I have finally created my first Jade Gourd Production Line. Extremely Inefficient and Quite the Opposite of "Compact", but i finally produce the Jade Gourds.

[foggy pasture]

I believe you, I just don't get how the purifier's output wouldn't eventually clog

[subtle finch]

it rounds robin from the pipe/pump and backfeed side, the rate is faster than the purification can produce acid

[scenic orchid]

I just realized this is the first orange quality AIC item

the jade gourd

[nova osprey]

because of how convergers work

they will try to take even inputs from all inputs

[subtle finch]

if you ignore the acid clog, the system still consumes 2/s of acid, your first thought might be it just takes it all from the pump because it matches the rate, but it does roundrobin from the convergers enough to clear the purification's output

[nova osprey]

it can clog if you don't converge right, aka put too much into one section of the cuprium solution part

[scenic orchid]

random question, since you cant have 2 fluid pump as close as each other AND have the double conduit be in the middle do you prefer to have it on the left or right 😭

i am so ocd man

[subtle finch]

yes

[foggy pasture]

Ooh okay, I get it thank you.

[foggy pasture]

Can't you fit four pumps into one manifold

[orchid tiger]

Not gonna lie I love the concept of the event, but the insane lack of space AND lack of buses is making me

every setup I do feels... dirty 🥲

[foggy pasture]

I'm chilling on both, what are you doing to use so many?

[orchid tiger]

this feels like all the worst parts of factorio with all the spaghetti belting becoming mandatory

[scenic orchid]

having a base that's held together by duct tape and prayer has more soul than the most efficient base

[orchid tiger]

idk I'm struggling to get 8 xiranite forges, I currently have 6,
I have one outpost entirely dedicated to making plants and some carbon

and the other one is mostly making hetonite and some batteries

[nova osprey]

are you making wuling or v4 plants

[foggy pasture]

Are you using depots to create Xiranite? You don't need any if you are

[orchid tiger]

no I agree like, I wanna build it myself, but this feels too spaghetti

[orchid tiger]

depots? wot

you mean buses?

[foggy pasture]

buses

yeah

[nova osprey]

are you making wuling or v4 plants

[orchid tiger]

yeah but even if I was pulling the carbon from elsewhere it would still take a shitload of space

[orchid tiger]

v4 is super easy and I had 0 issues there, there's a ton of space there (afaik)
I'm talking about wuling

[nova osprey]

let me rephrase

are you making jincao/yazhen or just sandleaf and buckleaf etc

[orchid tiger]

I only have 1 plant making yahzhen (for the event) everything else is sandleaf

[nova osprey]

knew it lmfao

[foggy pasture]

My current setup is tileable without using depots and doesn't take all that much space

Also he's referring to are you using wuling plants to create carbon, because its vastly more space efficient and produces more carbon per unit than V4 plants

[subtle finch]

someone made 132/min jade gourd, so i dont think space is an issue 😭

[orchid tiger]

is that a bad thing

[nova osprey]

yes you're using like triple the space

[orchid tiger]

does yazhen produce more carbon?

or wot

[nova osprey]

wuling plants do

[foggy pasture]

Wuling seeds create 2 plants, also 1 Wuling plant creates 2 carbon

So yes

[orchid tiger]

why did they do that

[nova osprey]

idk lol

[orchid tiger]

[scenic orchid]

lol

[orchid tiger]

well thanks for the knawledgg

I'll see what I can do with that

[foggy pasture]

You save at minimum an entire planter, so 25 squares

[scenic orchid]

good thing I had 60k before the event now im just burning through all of them cus im impatient

[orchid tiger]

yeah I can imagine how much space it saves

[subtle finch]

there are hex and hepta forge sub-aic layout out there

[orchid tiger]

I just had no idea the recipes were different, I thought yazhen was for yazhen and nothing else

[foggy pasture]

Yeah wulings got some quirky stuff to it

[scenic orchid]

I love when someone discovers wuling plants give more carbon

[orchid tiger]

my hatred has not diminished
only redirected

[foggy pasture]

you too huh

[scenic orchid]

😭

[orchid tiger]

damn 3 of them??

you only need 1 to complete the event/medal calm down 😭

[scenic orchid]

4

LOL

[orchid tiger]

[scenic orchid]

okay maybe I need to tune it down LOL

[foggy pasture]

This stockpile isn't gonna clear itself

[orchid tiger]

just produce more blue science or something

[foggy pasture]

The thing i'd do with factorio belts and drones

[orchid tiger]

every time I mess with the AIC I feel pain not having those features

that and circuits 😭 I need circuits

[foggy pasture]

if I can't have factorio belts I want to daisy chain facilities into eachother without the intermediary pipes and belts

[orchid tiger]

especially with this sewage BS

and yes I know about the splitter thing

[scenic orchid]

I do not like seed dupe loops, I found a bug that it kind of slowly leaks for some reason and it would just be 1 seed looping and stump production

[foggy pasture]

How the hell is yours leaking lol, I haven't had that issue and I've been playing day 1

[scenic orchid]

I think it's cus I'm using control ports 😭

[foggy pasture]

okay theres your answer

[orchid tiger]

I honestly don't mind the belts as much but I wish there were more compact alternatives, especially the depot thing and the liquid input/output teleportation thing

also pls allow deletion of the goddamn sub PAC building thing

that thing must explode

[scenic orchid]

layer 2 base building 🤤

[orchid tiger]

oh god

[scenic orchid]

like that one side quest area in V4

[orchid tiger]

I mean satisfactory dedicated the entire game to building in 3d and even it didn't do a perfect job at it, what hope does endfield have 😭

[foggy pasture]

I'd kill for overclocked buildings or just hyper efficient buildings at the cost of extra power

[orchid tiger]

yesss

I would just like to see more creativity in general, like more stuff that you can use that isn't just a straight upgrade

[foggy pasture]

yeah they were cooking with the expanded crucible, need more of that

[orchid tiger]

idk if I agree with that honestly

expanded crucible creates some convoluted messes, which would normally be fine but with the limited space it becomes frustrating

[scenic orchid]

did they say what this is

no way it's just Purification on a fixed node

[orchid tiger]

I mean I like the expanded crucible by itself but with this bus system and the low space it is very irritating imo

[foggy pasture]

I mean the expanded crucible takes the place of 2-3 crucibles at once at the cost of limited ports, increased size, and 2x power cost.

I also find it makes things cleaner

[jade agate]

bro i really need the top of the mountain, i can't go the top

[subtle finch]

idk why it reminds me of the piston endrod thing

[scenic orchid]

endfield edition 😍

finally a use for yvonne

[orchid tiger]

yeah I meant alternative things where you have to ask yourself "is it better to use x or y?" instead of always going for y, like, expanded crucible is always the better option for some recipe
I'm talking about stuff like for routing liquids or power - like a power pylon that is smaller but has smaller aoe, or smaller but consumes power to have a larger aoe
or a depot stash that is 1x1 but can only transfer a lower amount of items every minute

[scenic orchid]

mr breast money

[orchid tiger]

Woaw I just did this and all I got was a lousy <@&956153874383781928> ping

o damn they work fast

[scenic orchid]

lurk or bot

[subtle finch]

they're programmed to post in every channel, that's what the beans are for

[orchid tiger]

I've heard from mods in other servers that they post in a random channel now

some of em at least

instead of every single channel

[foggy pasture]

I mean you kinda do make that decision with the expanded crucible.

Though I'd be down for the options you're suggesting, I hate trying to fit the power pylons so much

[orchid tiger]

Yeah I mean I don't mind the expanded crucible I just think it's not enough

[foggy pasture]

I've seen some servers create a bot trap where it just instantly bans you if you type in it

[orchid tiger]

I also wish you could modify the layout of input/output ports on machines
not complete freedom ofc but -some- freedom

[foggy pasture]

dude I hate that we can't mirror liquid ports so much

[orchid tiger]

yes 😭

the layouts look so ugly when you need to rotate the liquid ports

also the control belt is super stupidly useless

no one in the history of the game has any use for it

the worst part is that even its "item limiting" function is capped at 5000 😭 and the medal for the event is producing 20k... like bruh

how useless can you make it 😭

[subtle finch]

@ancient pier someone did stashless

[orchid tiger]

why is input port better than stashless

[subtle finch]

because I said so

[hidden temple]

it can function as a belt toggle if you wanna reallocate a portion of a belt into other production lines

[spring elm]

and the game cant handle it offline

[orchid tiger]

wait what? 😭 oh my god it's somehow even more useless than I even thought

[orchid tiger]

can't you toggle anything already by just... cutting the belt off xd

[hidden temple]

yeah lol

it's just so you don't have to place and remove stuff

[nova pilot]

I did

[orchid tiger]

John Endfield???

[orchid tiger]

what is it doing tho

[nova pilot]

Stopping the resources to pass thru the belt so less usage

[orchid tiger]

why is there even a belt here to begin with then

if nothing is supposed to go through it

[gentle sentinel]

Here's 2 way to use them

[orchid tiger]

whar

[shadow void]

I need a button to just go straight to the AIC Report

[nova pilot]

You need to turn it off if your changing to 4/m yield from 2/m

[orchid tiger]

[subtle finch]

I used to do both, but for the right side, won't 2 belts do?

[orchid tiger]

Oh. If a splitter tries to output to a control belt it pauses the distribution as if it was succesful?

that makes no sense

fair enough tho

[nova pilot]

If it's ON yes

[gentle sentinel]

2 belts how

[orchid tiger]

that's not really needed tho is it? I mean, the machine will clog itself and if there's an imbalance it'll sort itself out anyway due to simply not accepting more of the input

[nova pilot]

The only problem is if your using the one for liquids cause there's a limit of 5000 that can only pass thru

[subtle finch]

I have both mats rate limited to 10/s to the gearing unit, no control port needed

[gentle sentinel]

hooo I guess

[nova pilot]

For products that have long production time yes

[orchid tiger]

fair enough ig

I don't really find it worth it

[winged dirge]

Guys, what is the Highest amount of Jade Gourds you can Produce per Minute?

[subtle finch]

my revolutionary limiter tech also uses control port

[marble marsh]

I know what I'm tearing apart tomorow

[gentle sentinel]

What's this?

[nova pilot]

You'll only need it if you're compacting. This for example so I can save on a bit of space.

[subtle finch]

I call it a subtractor

30-18=12/min for example

[orchid tiger]

damn that is an insane level of compact
and then when they make 1 update everything will need to change 😭 I mean that's cool and impressive but hell naw that ain't for me

[gentle sentinel]

i feel dumb seeing these conveyor and converger

[subtle finch]

Its just priority converger, so it subtracts from the full rate cause they share the same lane

[nova pilot]

It's already prepped for the increased Cuprium yield in May 14 update XD

[shut hearth]

Now that we know excess jade gourds are just gonna become useless outpost creds, what do we do once hitting the trim medal + buying out event?

[orchid tiger]

yah but I'm a programmer and everything screams "refactoring" when I see that xd

[gentle sentinel]

Oooo okay I see it I see it

[nova pilot]

Wait till you see my Main

[orchid tiger]

I mean it looks cool tbh

[nova pilot]

Looks less scary in Enkad

[orchid tiger]

anyway when are we getting operators able to work inside facilities to improve them

gilberta in a building yeets your baterries into the ocean

[orchid tiger]

chen in a building makes the production line halt every 5 seconds and it spills some products on the ground

I'm a genius I need to be hired, these ideas are perfect no one would ever complain

[iron stratus]

i really hope 1.3 gives us some sort of expended planter

[shadow void]

I know what i gotta do, but i really aint in the mood to aic today

[hidden temple]

you're being sarcastic about no one complaining but unironically, people would still find a functional use for that feature
assigning an operator to a facility limiting production? that saves facility count over using limiter setups lol

[orchid tiger]

Oh no I do think it would be cool to assign operators to a specific facility to give them special effects
And honestly if a "meme" feature like that is turned into something useful then all the better honestly, that's just peak game design

<@&956153874383781928> slaughter him

[shadow void]

casually pinging the* mods?

[dreamy jungle]

What did bread do

[hidden temple]

[shadow void]

[void stag]

im using so much amethyst, is there a way to get any more? or am i genuinly capped and forced to survive on my stored amount

[shadow void]

240/m max

[void stag]

😭 im cooked

[shadow void]

what are you using it for

[craggy oyster]

what are u ussing it for?

[void stag]

lots..and lots of Amethyst powder, and fiber

[spring elm]

That's brilliantly lovely to look at. I might adopt that planting unit placement.

[void stag]

for cyston stuff

[craggy oyster]

i mean what is the end product?

[void stag]

lots of cryston

[shadow void]

Beyond bottles, its pretty worthless

[subtle finch]

i made it for you

[stable zodiac]

okay no more messing around, im sticking with this until the end of the event, good thing i still have gear component stock

[gentle sentinel]

Manual collection

[void stag]

-# oh yeah, im not making enough powder, and parts so i need even more of those being made

[void stag]

damn

god i wish we could move the depot buses on Valley 4, we can only use half of them since they're on the edge

i could do so much more on Valley 4 with movable depot buses

[hidden temple]

lmao

[spring elm]

yeah that drove me bonkers. it's why I spend so many time on my setups to use as much depot space as possible

[craggy oyster]

omg it still only half way to clear the 50k T-credit. massive math mistake somewhere. or did i missed smt? Anyone cleared it?

[void stag]

i have used up the entire depot bus on valley 4, theres only like 1 space i couldnt use due to other stuff

main fac*

about 99% of the bus is covered in unloaders

a single empty space i cant get to :(

[spring elm]

and there's that gap since they arent the same length as all the buses lined up overall

[void stag]

rip

ill just 100% valley 4 then move on to wuling, then i can have some factory minmaxing fun

[shadow void]

100x 10000

[spring elm]

I moved on months ago. My poor battery just runs forever for a master that's never there

[marble yarrow]

its alright if you didnt make normal gourds at phase 1

[shadow void]

think of it this way, thats 50 days of the 1000 Tcred daily

i've still got ~750k left to spend on that

[subtle finch]

actually anyone would have cleared it by now if they sold as much gourd in phase 1, and stockpiled the rest of the savings for phase 2

[subtle finch]

im at 58 cause i realized early i need to stop making the normal gourd

[craggy oyster]

i got 1m ish left too. but i thought we only need about 20h from the start of the event to clear it

it been like 2 days and im only half way lol

[shadow void]

_> Trade more Jade Gourds

[stable zodiac]

i hope they give more AIC event, this is fun

[subtle finch]

i have so much excess jade, i could just buy it now, but i wanna do as much auto-conversion later

@shadow void btw, finally tried the dige stuff?

[shadow void]

Sometimes, other times I really wish i didnt have to look at a conduit i have to manually connect

[marble yarrow]

yeah you can buy it now if you dont care about losing bills

[tall tangle]

jade curse

[shadow void]

I'm Dige'n

[subtle finch]

[hidden temple]

dige

[subtle finch]

they added so many ui qol, and half the game is still UI 😭

[stable zodiac]

i should be able to clear them out now, but yeah i dont wanna lose on bill too

[shadow void]

I'm also 20k batteries from being unable to make more. I refuse to store Xircon. Seems too much of a waste because I assume HCW will use some type of Hvy Xiranite.

[subtle finch]

there's no bills to lose, 14m is a lie

[shadow void]

did ppl change their mind since yesterday?

[craggy oyster]

nah he mean trade jg just for the cert and not 120 bills cuz outpost is empty

[nova osprey]

kikkoman has access to chinese event details

so does pipe

both said it says outpost stockpile not bill limit

endfield is a lie

[ruby sorrel]

awkward... my sc capped

what do I even do

this event is killing me

[subtle finch]

i never believed it in the first place, it's all for that funny number

[craggy oyster]

just switch to chinese language in game?

[nova osprey]

.cantread

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1475997022615113900/cantread.gif?ex=699f84d8&is=699e3358&hm=f283e9f64e009c1dbd4556362116e277bbaaf6f50e83895e5c641e76003299d2&=&width=1080&height=728

[ruby sorrel]

I have 20k xircon in depot now

[spring elm]

I have 4.8mil T-creds and honestly I think that's still not enough

[subtle finch]

plot twist, EN gets bill limit, cn and jp gets outpost savings cap

[ruby sorrel]

time to burn 12 sc/min

[shadow void]

I was planning for it just in case, but omg what am I gonna do. All these things I can't make

[craggy oyster]

yo turret name are crazy

[ruby sorrel]

eh? what's crazy about it

[shadow void]

Unfortunately I dont speak in moon runes

[craggy oyster]

the actual meaning

[ruby sorrel]

solving my depot crisis.....

[craggy oyster]

there alot of weird translation in this game

like trimmed medal

[craggy oyster]

it actually mean coated medal hence the shiny radiant effect

[subtle finch]

[ruby sorrel]

well that's not that far off tbh

[nova osprey]

the manifold names lol

[ruby sorrel]

a lot of the weird translations is just good old chinese ambiguity that MTL doesn't understand

[subtle finch]

im the one who needs those batteries, gimme

[shadow void]

If I could I would

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-30000-arknights-arknights-endfield-perlica-gif-604696076763371309

[nova osprey]

i would paypal you my 80k scw

[shadow void]

I'm gonna have to halt all battery production in like 2 days

[ruby sorrel]

my batteries are stuck

[nova osprey]

time to spam lcw

[ruby sorrel]

I'm sure it'll clear up soon

[shadow void]

Ew, no

I'll bottle all the Xircon Effluent I can, and burn the Originium after i've got 68k of every Ori item

[subtle finch]

lc wuling feeling like the middle child 🥀

[stable zodiac]

just cut your battery usage guys

[nova osprey]

already doing that

[stable zodiac]

[nova osprey]

[shadow void]

AFTER, I have 68k of every Ori item

[ruby sorrel]

no way, I'm using my batteries in an emergency

[shadow void]

Which isnt far off

[craggy oyster]

alright it does say outpot warehouse

damn scammer

[ruby sorrel]

I have to do this to keep making batteries

[subtle finch]

goodluck buddy

[shadow void]

Should I fill V4 with nothing but Originium stashes?

[ruby sorrel]

I can't believe I bricked my scw after bricking my medA last week

[craggy oyster]

oh this is nice way to check. never thought of this

[nova osprey]

wait you never noticed it showed stock amounts in aic report?

[shadow void]

"made with the most extreme processing environments"

[subtle finch]

the mappa studio?

[shadow void]

wait, Dijiang is a person?

[nova osprey]

wait i didn't know that either

[shadow void]

"The believe that Dijiang felt sorrow and shed these tears"

[hidden temple]

uhhhh close enough

[craggy oyster]

ik. but i never thought of selecting certain stuff like this to check stocks. normally i see that to check productions

[nova osprey]

ahhh

[shadow void]

I mean, ships are usually refered to in a feminine way. Maybe they just mean the space ship?

[nova osprey]

there might be smth in other item files, time to check them all

[shadow void]

"extreme processing environment" = space?

[hidden temple]

dijiang is apparently some mythological being
so that passage was prolly talking about that creature and the ship was just named after it

[shadow void]

Most likely

[subtle finch]

plot twist, it's the same thing

[ruby sorrel]

no eyes or facial features of any kind

alright

[hidden temple]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-pilot-hisone-and-masotan-hisone-%26-masotan-dragon-pilot-hisone-%26-masotan-jet-gif-18177925251445879517

[river wadi]

if dijiang can create origeometry why cant i assign the mfg cabins to manufacture origeometry

[shadow void]

What in the holy name of Macross is that?

[shadow void]

Gotta wait 5 years for patch 267

[hidden temple]

from hisomaso lol

[shadow void]

Neat concept, dragons transforming into jets

[random estuary]

Wrong game. AK RIIC Can make originium

[shadow void]

Studio Bones cool, liscensed by Netflix yuck

[river wadi]

what

[random estuary]

It. Is not efficient or a good use of the manufacturing cabin.
But it is possible.

[shadow void]

Rhodes Island Infrastructure Complex

[random estuary]

Look up RIIC orundum farming guides.

[river wadi]

is that from arknights

[random estuary]

Anyways. Back to AIC.
Is 12/min jade enough to clear outpost production? Or do I need 6 SCW on top of the 12/min jade

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I should delete my sc lines and make more hxira.....

since my depot capped

you need 8.89 jade to clear

[random estuary]

For SCW?
Cus that would answer my question

.... Wealp. Time to turn off half my jade

Wait. Confirmed. Auto sell no cap?

[craggy oyster]

8.89

[shadow void]

that was like, yesterdays number tho

[craggy oyster]

did outpost suddenly make more?

[random estuary]

last day catch up, increase outpost stock bill production by 100%

[shadow void]

just depends on if you have even done anything

[craggy oyster]

that's 64k/h rate and it whole event, no?

[nova osprey]

i mean rn it's total 64008 production/h

[shadow void]

with alot of assumtions basically

[nova osprey]

no p1 was lower

[random estuary]

Oh wait. Y'all mean shop?
I mean. Like. Stock bills of regular outpost.

[ruby sorrel]

what assumptions? that bill gen doesn't change during p2?

[random estuary]

Oh.

[shadow void]

#aic-factory message

[nova osprey]

i think you overcomplicated it

[random estuary]

directly links self
Is 64008 including operator buffs and p2 gen bonus?

[nova osprey]

64008/h /120 /60 = 8.89

[nova osprey]

yes

[shadow void]

probably didnt change, but everyone is going to be different

how much YOU need to make

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's not like those numbers are changing, it's only diff if you don't have all the bonuses

[craggy oyster]

i mean like for now if u make 8.89 u cathing up with the outpost earning rate. if u have some stocked from p1 then ofc u need to clear that yourself. but that's like each person's problesm right

[nova osprey]

ahhh

[random estuary]

.... What operator do I need for max outpost? Cus I think I only got 2/3 for both

[shadow void]

depends on where the outposts stock bills are, how many gourds you have

[ruby sorrel]

you just need 3rd bonus for bill gen

[nova osprey]

tang tang and zfy
just swap depending on needs, bill gen when not trading, and bill bonus when trading

[random estuary]

.... Sigh is zfy worth rolling for, for AIC. Is not a question I wanted to ask

[ruby sorrel]

wulfgard/akekuri if you have no 6*s

[shadow void]

id roll for that

[vital narwhal]

best replacements for TT and ZFY for trading+bill gen are wulfgard and akekuri

oh too slow rip

[random estuary]

Angelina already has that. Do I need a second?

[shadow void]

Mood and Operator XP

[keen river]

you dont really need to put three skills operators into outposts

[ruby sorrel]

gil is wep xp

[shadow void]

and who the heck is Angelina?

[keen river]

the only skill you really need is the stock generation

[river wadi]

gilberta is reconvener of angelina

[random estuary]

Sorry. "Gilberta" who is distinct from "gilberta -from closed beta test"

[shadow void]

Gils Mood and Weapon xp

[nova osprey]

hellagur is weapon exp

[shadow void]

either way its a double bonus, that ontop of her being pretty op (imo)

[craggy oyster]

pog pog?

[ruby sorrel]

kinda lazy to swap to hxira though....

I should just keep burning sc to keep stuff running

[random estuary]

Aren't all new limited 6* double bonus?

[shadow void]

Maybe the limited ones, but atleast Embers not

dont have Lifeng and Last Rite to check

everyone else is

[nova osprey]

lifeng isn't either

[random estuary]

Lifeng is not,
No last rite personally.

[nova osprey]

lr i forgo

[random estuary]

Dang too slow.

[ruby sorrel]

LR is clue7

[river wadi]

lr is not double

[nova osprey]

yes poggers

[shadow void]

[ruby sorrel]

pog has gil skills but swapped order

[shadow void]

Might use up all my sanity meds on Tcreds

[vital narwhal]

I'm so tempted to use my selector on ember just to get her exp skill, but I probably should just hang onto it

[river wadi]

just save them if theres nothing to build

[ruby sorrel]

it all expires anyways

[river wadi]

i have 2000 sanity worth of potion that idk what to spend on

[shadow void]

Well, it is also only for those banner characters. I wanna hold onto mine just in case too. Incase I pull Lifeng i can use it on Last Rite or the other way around.

[shadow void]

yeah, banked the big ones up when the first sanity event came out. that was a waste

[craggy oyster]

i still havent use any selector yet lol. need to see who would i lose 50/50 so i can select the other one. curently lack LR and Amber

[river wadi]

i have pog and lr remaining and im probably just gonna get pog from the fest of brilliance recap

[craggy oyster]

uh oh 15 normal ticket.

WHAT IS THE ODDS lol

[shadow void]

Lemme get some'a them tickets

[river wadi]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[craggy oyster]

fuck

it all happened again

[river wadi]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[craggy oyster]

i didnt get qiqi and kequing for 4 years of genshin

now this again

[subtle finch]

wait, i just noticed they hide the flowers now when you go top view

[craggy oyster]

fuck me

[shadow void]

Hey, you got Arsenal Tickets atleast

thats a win

[small creek]

Literally 🥀

[subtle finch]

what is this low res grass 🥀

[shadow void]

dude let us zoom out

or just let PC players zoom out PLZ

[small creek]

I hope they make the max zoom smaller

[river wadi]

why

[craggy oyster]

this flower?

[river wadi]

claim your operational manual and mail pls

[craggy oyster]

ohhhhhh they didđ

[subtle finch]

going to dijang is not enough to fully see yo momma

[craggy oyster]

it bugged. trust me, im more annoyed about that than u

[nova osprey]

Hikiran when factorio

[river wadi]

click the section to the left

[nova osprey]

left side

o.o;;

[craggy oyster]

ikkk it bugged

[river wadi]

the thing that says 1/500

[subtle finch]

if i play factorio, you'll never see me here again

[nova osprey]

it doesn't give you stuff? damn

[dire vapor]

I have made... too many gourds... the shop is emptied out too

[craggy oyster]

it wont let me claim for some reason it been a few days

[nova osprey]

tell me about it, i got 50k and i can't trade any of it

[shadow void]

only 16k?

[nova osprey]

hows your essence storage like

[dire vapor]

I only decided to throw down 24/min lines

[craggy oyster]

about 1k

[dire vapor]

Was too lazy to scale up

[nova osprey]

damn i got 0 clue then

[dire vapor]

Now, I think I'll pack up to 12/min then use the rest of the stockpile for copium components or whatnot

[spring elm]

lmao, I played Satisfactory for 10 hours and it never saw me again

[craggy oyster]

i think i claimed it, but the status didnt update. so now it stuck there until whatever new update/patch

[ruby sorrel]

well I guess burning sc so I can keep making sc is like burning hxira cus I'm not making hxira.....

I don't wanna factory though

[craggy oyster]

im curious anyone played Astroneer before?

[keen river]

satisfactory is a pretty bad game honestly, factorio is actually good

[random estuary]

Leave some monster drops, and see if it increases tomorrow. Or resets.

[nova osprey]

do you got space on v4?

[keen river]

astroneer is.. super trash quality unfortuantely

[ruby sorrel]

no way I'm transferring

[craggy oyster]

damn i spended over 100h in there lol

[nova osprey]

[ruby sorrel]

I might as well swap my factory around

[nova osprey]

get 80k of all items on v4, wuling items included

[spring elm]

The world was too bland, I couldnt stay hooked

[keen river]

the world is bland and just designed to be annoying and factory building fucking sucks

the only thing this game has going for is building mega structures that look sort of cool

[ruby sorrel]

well I guess it's a good time to rearrange my factory so I can fit in 4 forges later on

like this is kinda silly

[craggy oyster]

i like the freedom aspect tho. i tried multiple run. surface base, underground base, cave base , heaven base . idk it just suit me ig

[shadow void]

could never get too far till i got bored

i've tried a few times, i get to the largest rover and then stop

[keen river]

i finished astronner years ago with a friend and recently did another play with another friend

it definitely has a good core but everything is so buggy man

[shadow void]

deffinetly would be better with a group

[craggy oyster]

defi buggy. one weird cave tunnel glitch and boom, ur rover gone

[keen river]

also astroneer really lacks the scale and mid/end game

everything is too simple for the tools provided

satisfactory has really annoying building and overall is super unsatisfactory

for people who didnt play satisfactory, imagine endfield's factory but you can only build in first person, no 2d view, and every building is so massive you can't even see most of it

[winged dirge]

Does This Work? or do i need atleast 1x1 of a normal Pipe leading to it?

[nova osprey]

works

[craggy oyster]

i havent try both satisfactory and factorio

[ancient pier]

[craggy oyster]

what u guys recommmented

[nova osprey]

ive only done factorio

[keen river]

factorio if you want that factory building experience

[nova osprey]

haven't touched it much though

[keen river]

satifactory if you just want some causal exploration for 5 hours and then get bored and annoyed trying to do anything

[river wadi]

arent those both expensive

[subtle finch]

have you tried technical mc modpacks?, that's where it all started

[nova osprey]

base game for factorio is super cheap

[keen river]

astroneer if you want some whimsy and cute game with little to no factory building

[nova osprey]

the expansion is like 45 dollars or smth like that

[keen river]

not really tbh, i always wanted but never really got to it

[craggy oyster]

man i hate tech mod MC

[keen river]

i have seen Create released a new version with proper flying machines, maybe i will check it sometime

[nova osprey]

lmao honestly ive been doing vanilla minecraft and trying to get some mega farms with redstone in atm

[shadow void]

Stationeers

[keen river]

the biggest problem with satisfactory (apart from exploration and everything) is that it provides no tools to build large stuff, but then expects you to do it

[subtle finch]

project ozone, enigmatica and sky factory used to be the goat

[keen river]

factorio on the other hand has super good tools to build massive stuff

[craggy oyster]

both can be free to build your base right. or u have to build it in specific area?

[winged dirge]

But uh.. Would this Clog? Do i need 2 Pipes instead? Or is this fine?

[keen river]

the problem with factorio is that 2d mode and graphics will filter some people for sure

[nova osprey]

free build in factorio, idk about satisfactory but im assuming same

[keen river]

and also it has its tower defense component that some people dont like

[nova osprey]

imagine playing a factory game for GRAPHICS

[nova osprey]

no clog

[ruby sorrel]

idt factorio is cheap anymore

[nova osprey]

o what

[craggy oyster]

this is fine 1 pipe and support 4 process

[ruby sorrel]

and double that if you want the dlc

[subtle finch]

afaik, factorio never goes on sale

[nova osprey]

damn nvm ig

[keen river]

factorio is basically free build, there are some obstacles in your way but easy to delete, satisfactory's world is immutable so you basically need to build either floating or in few flat places

[nova osprey]

maybe i got the price mixed up with terraria lol

[winged dirge]

Alright thanks. The "Flow Rate" was confusing me a little.

[ruby sorrel]

nah they just randomly decided to price hike before it went up it was pretty good price

[keen river]

its worth it honestly

[craggy oyster]

yeah. 2s-> 1 liquid so 0.5 liquid/s. and pipe is 2 liquid/s so it 1:4. they make it so easy to misunderstood

[nova osprey]

most machines operate at 0.5/s

30/min = 0.5/s

[subtle finch]

am i the only one who uses "unit" as 0.5/s

[craggy oyster]

unit is fine

[subtle finch]

like 4 units worth of inert, i meant 2/s from 4 machines

[craggy oyster]

i use line

4 cup lines

[rocky niche]

by going 12/min gourd, why is it that my xiranite usage is 180/min? tried to see if there will be change with hxira prod, but the someone told me here that 2 hxira lines only use 168 xira/min?

[craggy oyster]

4 dense ori line

[keen river]

factorio also has trains, i hope we will get something like this in endfield some day so i can spaghetti the logistics

[craggy oyster]

etc

[nova osprey]

168 assumes you're reycling inert effluent and converging back into itself

[nova osprey]

train crashes are fun

[rocky niche]

so that's where my problem comes from... i recycle inert but feed it to sc wulbat line instead

[nova osprey]

imagine animating that in endfield

[craggy oyster]

ahh hell naw this grafic will kill me. i 100% prefer astroneer over this lol

[nova osprey]

that's fine too

[shadow void]

i finished the game with out even doing trains, except on that recycling planet

[nova osprey]

the rest of your 12/min xiranite goes to make scw batts

[craggy oyster]

satisfactory it is then

[glad needle]

this looks fun and take a lot of time

[keen river]

also build your own dijiang 😅

[craggy oyster]

damn this look like it take a lot of time

[nova osprey]

how much time have you spent on factorio so far

it does

[keen river]

hard to tell tbh

you can finish it pretty fast

this is a large base post game save and i got 444h in it overall

[nova osprey]

i mean you can but you need to know what you're doing

[keen river]

overall i think i got like 3k-4k hours in this? 🤔

[nova osprey]

first playthroughs usually take a very long time

[keen river]

i used to play competetive pvp speedrunning when it was still popular and got a lot of hours in it

[random estuary]

I mean. AKE doesn't even have logic gates yet. So. Why even

[nova osprey]

ikr

[subtle finch]

no man's sky recently got a ship building, i wish it had factory aspect too

[keen river]

main planet on this save is like this, the red box is the intersection from earlier screenshot 😅

[ruby sorrel]

actual city

[keen river]

thing is, building in this game is pretty easy since you can copy-paste and robots will build for you

kinda like in endfield

[ruby sorrel]

if only endfield bps were bigger

[keen river]

and unlike satisfactory where you need to place every single fucking building manually

[craggy oyster]

woop. time fly fast

[shadow void]

too bad their own launcher dosent have that

Hmmm, is that a solar array?

[keen river]

nah, thats actually the lab field

[shadow void]

now i'm thinking wheres the batteries

[craggy oyster]

they got so f up at launch that the VN language website doesnt have the Windown download button. so i have no choice to use epic

[keen river]

its all nuclear/fusion powered

[subtle finch]

[keen river]

etc

factory genre has a lot potential in it, i hope endfield wont screw it tho

[craggy oyster]

how can u see these

[small creek]

holy symmetrical of doom

[ruby sorrel]

tfw the buildings themselves look spaghetti

[craggy oyster]

im old lol i cant see shiet

or is it zoom up?

[nova osprey]

hard to tell if they're gonna screw it, they've been balancing between casual players who want nothing to do with factory and people who do

[ruby sorrel]

endfield needs this zoom level

[shadow void]

A Fusion Flower

[keen river]

its the max zoom before it switches to map mode

[nova osprey]

yeah you can zoom out super far

[keen river]

normally you would play at maybe that scale

[craggy oyster]

i mean current Endfield zoom when designing is fine. but just give us whole base topview capture funtion that's it

[keen river]

yeah, the zoom out is useful for overview purposes

and its lacking in endfield

[ruby sorrel]

nah I mean in v4 unless you have a really compact buck/batt line you can't see the whole thing

[shadow void]

Probably mobile players fault

[craggy oyster]

ahhhh true

[keen river]

and in case you wonder where the usual "heat mechanic for winter biome in endfield" speak comes from, you need to heat buildings on one of planets, otherwise they freeze

[ruby sorrel]

they def need to give more zoom if tutorial zone is already like that

[subtle finch]

im surprised no one has modded a zoom yet, isnt it just a single variable

[craggy oyster]

i mean they somewhat have it in endfiled with xir spray and Blight

[shadow void]

and you gotta wait for the heat to propagate thru the pipes

[ruby sorrel]

like v4's B level prod was way smaller, so I have hopes wuling's A level will be huge vs B level just like it was in v4

[keen river]

yeah, but its more like, you need to keep heating up the pipe network

and spend some products for it

[craggy oyster]

but lol imagine at winter biomes u gonna have to provive heat to our factory so the machine wont freeze

[ruby sorrel]

set fire to the originium

[keen river]

i fully expect that to be the mechanic for that region honestly

[upper fiber]

you guys keep making jade gourd after 116k?

[keen river]

yeah

[random estuary]

Do you think turned off protocol stash could hide gourds....

[nova osprey]

okay just so you know the chinese version of the game specifies to outpost stockpile limit

[craggy oyster]

i think it bad idea cuz it gonna be annoying and all BP gonna be much larger just cuz we need a heater somewhere. and if they implanted it into pylon then suddenly it not a feature anymore

[keen river]

stockpile limit is the 16m thing tho

[nova osprey]

no outpost stockpile limit not bill limit

or idk

[keen river]

no clue honestly

[random estuary]

I would not hate if. Zone 3 instead of pipes. It's like. Color code pylons. You need green red and yellow pylon for this machine to work. Make packing solutions optional

[craggy oyster]

drop on land and stay there during the time maybe

[random estuary]

I will test all the methods. I want to keep some

[old wyvern]

is there any blueprint that is all in with Jade production? I aint smart enough to optimize my factory since I am a combat guy

[random estuary]

Phase one gourds

[old wyvern]

what?

[random estuary]

Oh wait. You mean. Full bp. Not. One BP that uses only xiranite. Uh. Yes but in #1461542035617091681

There are a few guides for ver 1.2 that just. Have everything.

[craggy oyster]

send him the one hikiran complided

[random estuary]

i don't have any saved. I just break my own

[nova osprey]

check pipes out in #1461542035617091681

[ruby sorrel]

https://x.com/holmesfems/status/2051621538642973165 this is the only 12/m jade I've seen tbh

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[old wyvern]

alright thanks!!!

[random estuary]

What is going on there? Is sand leaf going in from depot unloader... And planter below it?

[ruby sorrel]

auto sandleaf loop I think

no manual placement

assuming you have some in depot

[keen river]

That is some fine spaghetti

It even burns raw originium

[ruby sorrel]

this is what I mean by qol planterloops

[nova osprey]

as it should

[ruby sorrel]

screw placing sandleaf in every individual loop when you're already copying someone else's bp

[craggy oyster]

how is that qol

[nova osprey]

i think they mean just auto transfer it into the planter depending on the blueprint

[craggy oyster]

ah so they dont have to manually load them up

niceeeee idea

[keen river]

Its also completely missing the hetonite part

[upper fiber]

except it is depot depended now

[keen river]

But makes syringes for some reason

[ruby sorrel]

yeah, like if you're separating planter loops out in a bp just make it easy

it's full outposts in reply chain

[craggy oyster]

ye

but that design is so questionable lol

at least it line up

opps

[green sleet]

How has everyone's gourd grind been goin?

[upper fiber]

no grind, just afk

[ruby sorrel]

down to 48k hxira now

[green sleet]

Potato, tomato

[nova osprey]

ive got 50k gourds in the depot atm

[winged oriole]

This is fine

[craggy oyster]

if it the outpost limit it only 25k jg, if it the 14m limit it 116k jg.

asumming u have 0

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I should lower gourds to 9/min after I clear creds

[winged oriole]

that's what I did

[nova osprey]

im just gonna stock enough gourds to trade to end of event then decide what to do with the rest of my hxira

[green sleet]

I should go do that.

[winged oriole]

why does 1/5 splitter take 8 facilities though

[craggy oyster]

i will make 25k extra after clear the event and that's it

[upper fiber]

i'm too lazy to change stuff, since 14th will change it again

[nova osprey]

i just realized

wait no nvm i need to check it first

nvm doesn't work, wished expanded crucibles had 5 outputs not 4

[winged oriole]

100 power splitter

[random estuary]

You have an expanded using 4 outputs already??

[upper fiber]

most output are in liquid type, so the 2 pipes output are limiting what we can make

[nova osprey]

no it's not that, it's more like if it had 5 outputs it would work as a 6/min, 12/min, 18/min, or 24/min splitter

i mean it would take a ton of space but at least it would split

[ruby sorrel]

6/min is already smaller than crucible

[nova osprey]

memorizing the 6/min takes more space in my brain

[ruby sorrel]

even 24/min is smaller

[vital narwhal]

Someone should make and maintain blueprint post with splitters for each rate

[random estuary]

what about a 10 or 15 splitter
Wow. Maybe I am low intellect

[nova osprey]

at this point i should just save them in my blueprints bc well, no need to memorize lol

[ruby sorrel]

that's actual 4/5 though and not just 24/min

[random estuary]

Is there more space in shared bp. Or saved bp

[ruby sorrel]

100 ea

[nova osprey]

both are 100 storage each

so 200bp total

[craggy oyster]

guys . if we dont fully load planter loop we can delay the time of the whole loop and ended up having x/min line of plant stuff. that could easy work to make 9/min jg. down side is u gonna clogged xir part and bottles

[rocky niche]

i dont understand why is my xiranite usage is more than my yield. i have 8 lines of stabilized carbon production in jingyu, but the theoretical said yield is only 240, while usage is 360? even my 68k stash of xiranite gets depleted to 30k+ now

i'm running 12/min jade gourd

6 forge uses stabilized carbon lines

[nova osprey]

need aic report

wait huh

[craggy oyster]

cuz 8 lines make 240. and u use 360 lol

[rocky niche]

wait. i'm stuck in loading screen

[nova osprey]

8 lines of stabilized carbon is only enough for 4 fots

[rocky niche]

so 8 lines not enough?

[nova osprey]

you need 12

for 12/min hxira

[craggy oyster]

oh stablized cacbon

[subtle finch]

i nominate @ruby sorrel

[rocky niche]

yes, stabilized carbon for 6 forges

[nova osprey]

you need 12 lines for 6 lines of xiranite

[subtle finch]

[vital narwhal]

this was in fact my implied nudge

[nova osprey]

the council has decided

[vital narwhal]

[nova osprey]

@ruby sorrel you are the scapegoat

[craggy oyster]

the one and only belt master

who has days of experience in looking at sandleaf belt

[ruby sorrel]

that belt was how I found out my scw capped

[random estuary]

Now repay what you've received by collecting all the fractional belt outputs into bp

[vital narwhal]

If someone really wants to try hard, they can make alt account that can permanently host belt splitters

so doesn't take main acct bp storage

[craggy oyster]

it work

[random estuary]

Actually can one hypergryph account hop to Asia server and back? Or do I need multiple accounts?
ill do it if I can do both Asia and na

[ruby sorrel]

it's still separate progression

[nova osprey]

i mean all they got to do is reach main aic which is super early

[ruby sorrel]

nah you have to unlock belt logistics

[nova osprey]

since it's just belt

[random estuary]

That's like. 2 balloon?

[vital narwhal]

yea the only problem is if there is future analogue in next region or smth

then that would be a pain

[hidden hornet]

Ah discord so robust

[random estuary]

I mean. Like with pipes, should just match to belt logic ish?

[craggy oyster]

it does match tho

[random estuary]

Yeah ... Actually pipes don't match at all.

[ruby sorrel]

pipes would be tricky since you need to build true fractional splits pretty much in every case

[craggy oyster]

whatt

what the diff?

[hidden hornet]

It’s marginal

[random estuary]

The separate fluid combination.

[ruby sorrel]

the simplified 6/min relies on full input + prio

you can't do that with pipes in most cases

[random estuary]

The one refinery originium wouldn't work in pipes. I think?

so a fractional belt and pipe BP storage Alt would need to get to WL

[craggy oyster]

anyone know what is the speed of belts

per length

[green sleet]

Doesnt it say on them?

[final sierra]

you already have all you need
(you can just parkour there from zipline you have)

[craggy oyster]

ughh. that a dif kind of speed

[green sleet]

Oh. Gotchu

[craggy oyster]

like how many second does it take per square

[green sleet]

.5 sec i believe, unless theres something blocking it

[final sierra]

yes it is possible even now :)
(still running 24/min on reserves)

[ruby sorrel]

12/min clears in < 5d? math hard

[final sierra]

I think yes (to lazy to calculate now)

[final sierra]

#aic-factory message
here is one more example for Jade 12/min

[ruby sorrel]

nice, bp for both servers then

[craggy oyster]

wait

can we have bots to copy BP from a server to another one?

[final sierra]

maybe or devs can just add it as in game feature

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I don't understand why it's separated in the first place

[craggy oyster]

each server stored there own data ig

and BP is one of them

[foggy iris]

guys im using mega base by kiyostinv and for gourd it requires to delete heto comps however i need those how can i do both?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but it's not like bp's need to by sync'd super fast, ppl probs wouldn't care if they only did it every hour or sth

[craggy oyster]

dont be lazy and read the formular

[ruby sorrel]

idk man, that requires me to look at kyo base

[final sierra]

just adding transfer function which will transfer data and BP will be saved as 1 of your 100 blueprint storage will work

[ruby sorrel]

in the first place how do you still need heto comps, there's like maybe 6 sets worth you ever need rn

[craggy oyster]

im not saying that they cant, im just saying that they make it that way

[final sierra]

and thats sad that they did it that way

[craggy oyster]

look like i can control rate from 1 to 30 of every production as long as it use plant now

[trail mirage]

should i transfer gourds to v4

[ruby sorrel]

that's cursed

[rocky niche]

i dont understand why my cuprium yield vs usage is 170 vs 180

[ruby sorrel]

you bricked a lowpurity node

[final sierra]

also just adding in game blueprint import/export just as line of text also will work (cuz just a couple of lines is enough to encode full blueprint)

[rocky niche]

how

[ruby sorrel]

how should I know

go check your pipes or sth

[rocky niche]

[undone current]

different heigh on some pipe kek

[vital narwhal]

If you have all the hydro rigs connected, two possible explanations:

1. you didn't connect enough pumps
2. you connected enough but system hasn't reached equilibrium yet, can fix by shoving all the rigs full of water from bottles

[winged oriole]

game moved my mining pipes when I logged off one time

[vital narwhal]

one pump can support three high-purity nodes, six low-purity nodes, or a combination of the two, e.g., 2 high 2 low, 1 high 4 low

[candid wadi]

does that really happen ? by moved do you mean it just readjusted and got disconnected because of leveling issue or something ?

[winged oriole]

yeah height adjusted

but I think it actually changed the mechanics?

Can't remember exactly it was way back

[rocky niche]

you could have answered like how aorta did, but you answered in a dismissive way instead

[ruby sorrel]

yeah should've just ignored you mb

[craggy oyster]

@ruby sorrel Can u explain this?

[rocky niche]

i dont even know you but you act like you know me that's why you reply in such manner

[nova osprey]

bruh moment kek

[rocky niche]

i'll probs connect fluid tank instead

[craggy oyster]

why is there a slight delay

[nova osprey]

that's not gonna fix anything

gonna have to check your pipes if it's not an equilibrium thing

[ruby sorrel]

wait wtf are you doing

[candid wadi]

you dont need to complicate by adding fluid tanks. Just checknumber of pumps and no of hydro rig mines you have connected to high puriy and low purity ones. If pumps are not enough just add one. If there is connection issue and you cant see water going into one of it. These things are often highlighted in the map itself as well when you select the mines on the map.

[craggy oyster]

i making a steady 5/min, it should be 4 6 4 6 4 6 but there is a slight delay at 4

[ruby sorrel]

maybe it was a few ticks slow

[craggy oyster]

yeah but what cause the delay

[rocky niche]

why ask her when she just dismissive in answering question?

[craggy oyster]

there is no splitter converfer shenanigan here

[random estuary]

Floating point rounding error making 5->4 for items that can produce yields over 1000? (I'm making stuff up)

[nova osprey]

probably belt lag

or you just signed in

[ruby sorrel]

might be login lag ye

stuff's generally stable if you stay on or offline I think

[nova osprey]

or tped to factory

[craggy oyster]

it happened like 1 every x circles tho

i think it intentional

[ruby sorrel]

maybe the graph takes every 61s instead of 60s like I assumed