aic-factory

[nova osprey]

if assuming power generation of a battery is the same as power generation in a turret

yeah but that' doesn't give 152000, it gives 128000

[shadow void]

a battery in a thermal bank is consumed every 42 something seconds

[marble yarrow]

*40

[nova osprey]

it's 40 yeah o.o

[tacit quarry]

note: you can make extra factory with the same planter since shredder give 2 powder

[sonic summit]

make 12/min version you waste 1 line of yashen powder

[tacit quarry]

that's just simple version i give him for balance resource

[nova osprey]

that's why i keep saying put your turrets on batteries not relays and pylons it will last you a lifetime if you're not being insane

[marble yarrow]

big hurdle is being lazy to do it 😭

[tacit quarry]

my real factory are 4 production

[daring rapids]

I also heard kyostinv said that

[nova osprey]

im too lazy to route the relays to the alluvium in the first place

[sonic summit]

same mine also 24/ min jade

[daring rapids]

[nova osprey]

about it lasting a lifetime or just powring turrets on batts

[nova osprey]

oh the insane part

[marble yarrow]

im using 4 of this (12/min each)

[tacit quarry]

i have plenty of xiranite left so, full production

[shadow void]

well probably the lifetime of the turret before a new one comes out

[hoary sage]

Thanks bro

[daring rapids]

the lasting lifetime part

[nova osprey]

[nova osprey]

yeah a stack of scw will last you like 440k sanity which is 6.5 years worth of sanity

[valid gazelle]

50 scw lasts for 100+ runs

[tacit quarry]

this is balance build btw, it only consume 6 heavy xiranite per minute

[marble yarrow]

gah its all over the place 😭

[nova osprey]

and that's only assuming you're farming a single alluvium

[daring rapids]

100k ahh hxira stock

[marble yarrow]

yazhen C comeback in 1.2 🔥 cant believe im doing it again

(im outta heavy xira so goodbye yazhen C again)

[tacit quarry]

2 water pump input right?

[marble yarrow]

[marble yarrow]

1.5, so 2x can use 3 pumps

[tacit quarry]

yep

[daring rapids]

might as well make yazhen A

[daring rapids]

[mighty yacht]

i chose to not care about space lmao

[coral orchid]

it's just 18/mins tho

[jovial breach]

does anyone have a 12/min belt limiter

[mighty yacht]

ima just use up my storage and then move to 6/min

[marble yarrow]

i once built that but i cant remember where i used it

[jovial breach]

it's for 1.5/min sc line

[marble yarrow]

just use the 6/min one (the 1/5th ratio), and snag that one 6/min path within the setup that returns to converger

thats how i modified it

[nova osprey]

you could instead just max your hxira line and take the inert from there to make 7.5/min xircon

[daring rapids]

I just use the purification unit to get the remaining effluent

[nova osprey]

that's what i did

[daring rapids]

it is good enough

[jovial breach]

hmm lemme try that

[frigid dirge]

this might be good now

[nova osprey]

yeah, the hxira line makes 60/min inert which is the perfect amount you need for 1.5/min sc, added benefit is that if you have space, it shouldn't be a big modification

[jovial breach]

so it's just effluent+ferrium?

[nova osprey]

yeah

[uneven aspen]

im at 510/512 💀 only have 2 left

[marble yarrow]

u doing all in one as well?

[uneven aspen]

nope

this just eats so much

[trail mirage]

the gourds are so thirsty for yanzhen solutions

[nova osprey]

you can remove most of those convergers on top

[final sierra]

pov: not enough protocol capacity for Fluid Tank

[uneven aspen]

maybe, but i don't trust it without them

[hasty cipher]

How much are you saving in energy again?

[uneven aspen]

originally it was 3 thermal banks of 4.5/min now it's 3.5/min saving a battery per min

though this is cause im doing 36/min jade gourds rn

i went from 30->36 and needed more power

it was actually almost perfect no need dige at 30/min

[frigid dirge]

lmao mr beast

[uneven aspen]

I have to wonder who falls for these scams if they think it's worthwhile to constantly spam those

[hasty cipher]

Pls tell me he was banned from this server, lol

Did he get beaned?

[frigid dirge]

yh he does got banned

[hasty cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[daring rapids]

automatically

[eternal wyvern]

Are the recipes/factory materials from this event permanent? Wondering how much effort i should put into reworking my base

[nova osprey]

no

you dont need to rework base much if you already had a decent setup pre event

[edgy juniper]

they should make the gourds consumable so you can get fucked up on heavy xiranite and die

[edgy juniper]

ngl this is false, i had to delete both my sc battery setups just so i had enough xiranite

[nova osprey]

you literally did not

if you did that im sorry for you lol

but we already did the calcs here several times over

you just fell for the bait "optimal event factory" setups

[edgy juniper]

oh well lmao whatever, i got them saved as bps anyways so ill just repaste them if possible

[edgy juniper]

i just did it myself

[nova osprey]

but why

[edgy juniper]

but i was eating xiranite at a rate of like 500/min or some bs

[nova osprey]

oh well

[edgy juniper]

lazy + its not that big a deal tbh, i had my things saved so imma just replace them once the event is over

[nova osprey]

all you had to do was consume your excess xiranite/hxiranite

aight

[edgy juniper]

im not gonna lose my home over some extra xiranite 😭

[brittle sedge]

but you did

[hasty cipher]

2 Xircon production lines + 1 H.Xira will consume 180 Xira/min
It's not a big deal at all

[daring rapids]

time to make a new home

might as well prepare for next area

[marble yarrow]

guys im drowning in acid

[nova osprey]

i can tell that, you turned yellow

[brittle sedge]

give this guy some heavy xiranites

actually he should have a lot of it stocked

[foggy iris]

guys i unlocked rdm 10 in wuling but still no metastorage can i still make the mega base using normal storage till i get meta?

[daring rapids]

Wha

I got meta before that

[nova osprey]

wuling doesn't have metastorage, valley 4 does

also it's not normal storage, metastorage refers to regional transfer

[foggy iris]

yes regional storage

[daring rapids]

Oh it's from wuling to v4

[nova osprey]

you can make builds without metastorage, metastorage gives you 25/min resources depending on what you choose

[foggy iris]

cuz i think i need some powder from v4

[nova osprey]

you probably dont

[foggy iris]

kyostinv vid says i need tho

[nova osprey]

13.25/min scw? just dont make the last scw part

[foggy iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-_uyiixxTE

[nova osprey]

make 12/min scw, dont make 13.25

[daring rapids]

It's just for extra battery production

I think it's optional

[nova osprey]

it is

anything with meta transfer for wuling is optional

nice to have sure but optional

[foggy iris]

he doesnt say if its optional or how to not put it

[nova osprey]

let me watch it rq

[daring rapids]

Ahh

I remember now

Xiranite components

That's the "not" optional part

[foggy iris]

which base was it in?

[nova osprey]

skip wuling 4 for main aic

[foggy iris]

ayt thx

yay i can make heavy soon

[nova osprey]

actually let me double check

[void knot]

help I'm dumb
I have 4 free Hetonite per minute (production 10 usage 6) so I have to use 1 every 15 sec max to be at 10/10
You have one item every 2 seconds so with one splitter one every 6 seconds and with another splitter one every 18 sec right ? so I should be bellow the 4 per min I should be at 3.333 so at usage 9.333
Why I am at 11/10

[foggy iris]

[daring rapids]

Can u make 15 heto/min?

That way you don't have to split any heto up

[nova osprey]

nvm you're gonna have to find a different base then

what level is your valley 4 rdm

[brittle sedge]

that cluster of splitter converger might be the cause, they behave weirdly when you put them together

[foggy iris]

11

[nova osprey]

what level are your outposts

[foggy iris]

4 4 3

[nova osprey]

can i see your rdm sources for valley 4?

[foggy iris]

sec

[brittle sedge]

i assumed the 6 is for jade gourd?

[nova osprey]

take a screenshot of your entire graph

im betting there's no problem

it's just fluctuating

[nova osprey]

how much more do you need to get to level 12?

[foggy iris]

7k

[nova osprey]

oh dear okay

[nova osprey]

exact?

[foggy iris]

sry 6k

[nova osprey]

whats the exact number

i think you can get to 12 rn

[foggy iris]

38250

[nova osprey]

38250 out of how much though

[foggy iris]

im on 32355

[nova osprey]

okay gotcha

[nova osprey]

upgrade all your depots and stock redistributors to max, you'll hit 12 then you can use kyo's build

[tacit quarry]

I made some modification from your build, so I dont have to use long pipe line for cleaner looks

[foggy iris]

if i had bills to upgrade stock and depot i might

[nova osprey]

you make full use of stock market and the deliveries yeah?

[foggy iris]

yes

[daring rapids]

I think he can still use it

[nova osprey]

well that's unfortunate

[foggy iris]

doing delivery for other ppl too

[daring rapids]

Just without producing xiranite com

[nova osprey]

he could maybe, idk kyos build well enough

it would cause some funky stuff

[daring rapids]

I personally used his bp myself

In 1.1

[nova osprey]

well that works

eh 1.1 not same as 1.2

[nova osprey]

instead of doing metastorage transfer, how about instead you make one extra line of cubes and use regular transfer

it won't give you the amount you need, but it's better than nothing

[foggy iris]

how i do that?

[daring rapids]

Layout might change yes but I figured some stuff might remain the same no matter what

[foggy iris]

cant i just use stckpile storage?

[nova osprey]

do the same thing as shown in meta transfer but select normal transfer instead

[nova osprey]

sure

but you won't need to stockpile as often if you use the transfer function

[foggy iris]

so its just a manual way

[worn wharf]

anyone got a PAC blueprint of the hub? with the battery farms etc

[foggy iris]

ayt imma try it

[nova osprey]

but you could probably use his base without transfer

at least that's what groundpound detector says

[nova osprey]

there are plenty in #1461542035617091681

[foggy iris]

will see where xira comp is and turn off

[nova osprey]

and some youtubers do like kyo

[jovial breach]

looking good

[daring rapids]

I compared his 1.1 and 1.2 bp

They're mostly the same functionality wise

[nova osprey]

nice

[daring rapids]

Aside from heavy xiranite stuff

And hetonite

[nova osprey]

it's more that, depending on how his thermal banks are setup, the entire factory could lose power

[foggy iris]

il just put on the builds and work from there

[jovial breach]

now i sleep

hopefully factory doesnt die while im asleep

[daring rapids]

It's just 2 thermal banks with 3/min usage

[foggy iris]

if not ork i just keep builds till im lvl 12 on v4

work*

[nova osprey]

yes but where is it setup? right beside packager or another unloader with thermal banks?

[jovial breach]

i dont trust thermal bank right next to packaging

[spring elm]

why?

[daring rapids]

Another unloader in jingyu subaic iirc

[nova osprey]

it's a crap idea, if you mess with your base it's very easy to lose all power

[nova osprey]

then it's fine @foggy iris

[jovial breach]

if packaging die your whole fac will die too

[worn wharf]

holy tysm, didnt know that existed

[daring rapids]

I don't think most people will do that

[nova osprey]

sometimes if it's slightly inefficient due to changes, it can die too

[nova osprey]

you'd be surprised

but kyo's smart

i had a feeling he'd do the right way, still had to confirm though

[daring rapids]

He has that "trust me bro" energy

[shadow void]

I need 36,567 more gourds to buy the last 2 shop items (normal Tcreds and the sink). 4,388,080 stock bills worth. 192 hours worth of outpost stockbills left or 12,417,552 stockbills left to get which is 103,480 gourds. I can stop at 36k gourds for the shop, or continue and make 103k gourds to buy all the stockbills from outposts.

[nova osprey]

been here since arknights and had some pretty insane low rarity solutions to events, so yeah definitely trust me bro energy lol

[spring elm]

I do it all the time but then I use a setup where I never touch my packaging unit ever again, however knowing this now, Im going to think of a way to position them near unloaders without stupidly long belts.

[nova osprey]

i think his first gacha game on youtube was arknights, not sure though

yeah it was a rerolling guide for arknights lol

[daring rapids]

I mean u got to sell batteries somehow

Can't do that with a thermal bank next to the packager

[shadow void]

I've got 28k more hvy stored, if I can produce 69k gourds at 6/m in 192hours, ROUGHLY i can stop making 66/m when I drain what i have and just go back to regular factory production and 6/m Jade Gourds and be close to draining all stockbills.

[daring rapids]

[nova osprey]

you can as long as some of it goes to depot

but if you split it so that each thermal bank gets 1.5/min exact, if it ever slips, you could lose all power

that's the problem with banks beside loaders

[shadow void]

I'll probably need another 10-20k more hvy/heto get through at the end, but thats doable easy.

[nova osprey]

i should probably slow my prod at this point lol

[weak hornet]

Is it possible to do more gourds? I’m at 5900 pow

[shadow void]

just trying to figure out when i need to add more stock from V4 if even I need to, and it looks like i may not, or i may just need 10-20k

[nova osprey]

do you have turrets powered by relays/pylons?

[nova osprey]

why would you need to do that, are you running 12/min hxira atm?

[shadow void]

66/m

no i'm only running 6/m hvy

66/m gourds

[nova osprey]

[shadow void]

normal factory production is still ongoing

[nova osprey]

dropped my prod to 24/min from 84/min

[vital narwhal]

11 forge hxira prod

[nova osprey]

you know it

[jovial breach]

dont even think about it

[daring rapids]

My gourds prod is 67/min now

[shadow void]

i've got about 5 and a half hours of 66/m left

[nova osprey]

dammit

[pure egret]

will 1k be enough? for blight zones

or 500

[shadow void]

probably ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nova osprey]

i like this better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wait

[shadow void]

if you use regular xiranite the blight is harder to get thru than if you use hvy xiranite liquid

[nova osprey]

what

that doesn't drop the arm anymore?

huh

[weak hornet]

I think so

How can I double my jade gourds

I’ll turn off the turrets

[nova osprey]

you should put them on batteries first

[nova osprey]

just put them on batteries, remove the relays, batteries are far better anyways

[shadow void]

If only it were that simple

[weak hornet]

Kk

[daring rapids]

I have a tank of full of heavy xir liquid

[shadow void]

that'll probably be enough

i've got a thousand or so bottled myself

[nova osprey]

you can do 12/min hxira using all 8 forges
you'll have 60/min inert which you can turn to 15/min effluent, to turn into 7.5min xircon or 1.5/min scw
you can make 3/4ths of a line of hc with remaining ferrium + meta transfer
then you can run the rest of the originium into thermal banks, each line split to 4 banks
that should give you more than enough power to self sustain and do 12/min gourds

[uneven aspen]

more than enough, you will replace them with liquid heavy xiranite bottles

[weak hornet]

Tyty

I don’t suppose you have a bp of a 12 gourd setup?

[nova osprey]

let me see if #1461542035617091681 has first lol, i dont have mine reasy for sharing, it's sort of messy

[valid ibex]

yes unless you're stupid like me and waste hundreds of normal xiranite to clear blueberry flavoured blight instead of heavy xira

(you can actually do that with blight without a core, which there's 2 spots of. can't kill the cores tho, which is 2 other spots)

[nova osprey]

try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Xg_15e6kQ

[winged dirge]

How can i perfectly use 240/min Amethyst ?

[vital narwhal]

This should be a 15x32 by Fruit, bp made by AlgoInde, EFO01u1Ioa82A10aIAoOU

[weak hornet]

Thx

[weak hornet]

Tyty

[nova osprey]

your choice, use 8 depot unloaders of amethyst into making what you want

[bitter moat]

my wuling factory rly sucks rn and cant use kyostinv vid (atm development aint 10 and prosperity not high enough) i just have his 1.0 wuling setup atm but i rly dont wanna miss out on the 900 event oberyls i can still get but my gourd production is soooo slow so what can i do?

[vital narwhal]

highest stock bill option for amethyst without using any originium/ferrium is making buck cap C

[visual locust]

Is there any battery saver around 6k energy in wuling?

[nova osprey]

you're using 6k energy?

[subtle finch]

the battery saver you need is using less facilities 😭

[visual locust]

fair enough

[valid ibex]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en
but also 6k is close enough to 6600 might as well not bother

[nova osprey]

first question lol, are you powering any turrets on relays/pylons

[river wadi]

Buck capsule c takes 5 bottles and sells for 10, an amethyst bottle alone sells for 2 so by making into medicine you are just wasting power

[nova osprey]

better storage though, for those who dont like micromanagement

[shadow void]

make 24/m CitromeC

[nova osprey]

but yeah you're right

[visual locust]

I am, just searching for a saver if there's one since I'm too lazy to turn them all off

[subtle finch]

i was making bottles before and i gave up and switched back
i cant even sell medC on time

[nova osprey]

stop powering turrets on relays and pylons, just put a stack of scw in each of them, that will last you 6.5 years if you're not being insane

[visual locust]

It's close to 6.6k anyways so might as well not bother'

[nova osprey]

that'll save you probably 1k

then you can use dige to reduce power

[vital narwhal]

maybe the answer is have protocol stash blueprint and have unloaders fill with bottles

[shadow void]

i swapped half of my CitromeC to BuckC, it can only be sold in the first outpost but eh. also swapped half of my BuckA to CitromeA

[vital narwhal]

bigger buffer

[midnight harness]

guys am i aicing

[tall tangle]

burning bright

[river wadi]

also 18/min hcv and 18/min bca is enough to bankrupt all 3 outposts anyway so amethyst is useless

[shadow void]

placed stashs to catch bottles and a couple other things

[nova osprey]

overwhelming burden of thinking

[vital narwhal]

not useless, can export all excess hcv to wuling

[shadow void]

that extra citromeC can be sold instead and you can bank HCV to send to wuling, to save more SCW there

[midnight harness]

apparently minifixing everything is kinda jank

[keen badge]

Guess I've got room to grow
I've yet to build out the outposts and the main base is due for a redesign because it's a total mess >.<
😅😅

[nova osprey]

whatchu making

[valid ibex]

mine is about the same and i don't care to waste time going to every place i have turrets at
-# i am a lore nerd i instead waste time running around looking and models and textures

[shadow void]

play how you want really, if you make optimal production everything past that is whatever you want

[midnight harness]

i wish i know

BUT HOLY

[subtle finch]

smart but optimizing v4 at this point is just extending the time you need to transfer hc bats to wuling to an insignificant degree

[pure egret]

i dont have enough space to make heavy xiranite liquid area

[river wadi]

Heavy liquid xiranite doesnt even make anything

[valid ibex]

-# best V4 optimization is to turn everything that isn't batteries off because there's nothing to buy with v4 stock anyway

[nova osprey]

idk why you're trying to split and converge the xircon fluids, but you really dont need to, since you're already so far along, you could probably make:
12/min hxira
12/min jgourds
1.5/min scw
4.5/min hcv
burn rest of your originium via banks

[shadow void]

could be used later for HCW, but maybe not, i'd rather store the Xircon Effluent

[nova osprey]

up to you though

[valid ibex]

i don't even rember when did i sell anything at V4, actually, damn

[midnight harness]

yea this might be the move

[subtle finch]

ill agree when i cleared the perma shop

[midnight harness]

i just like to make janks before committing to ytubers bp

[tall tangle]

it's funny that gap in between finishing stockpiling heavyX and event is less than a day

[pure egret]

yeah

[nova osprey]

understandable

[midnight harness]

what i dont understand isssssssss

why am i only using 190 xiranite

[valid ibex]

did that aeons ago

[shadow void]

check and see if you are starved for water

[valid ibex]

but yeah perma shop is yummy

weekly stuff is
lmao.

[nova osprey]

wait hikarin you haven't cleared perma shop for v4 yet?

i thought you would have tbh idk why

[subtle finch]

i clear weekly first including some gifts, so it's taking a while

[vital narwhal]

same

[valid ibex]

i have over 300 of each v4 gift 😭

[vast iron]

Still have progression crates smh smh

Disappointed in you

[vital narwhal]

i'm hording engraving tix for eventual time when v4 factory no longer runs because new region

[valid ibex]

not buying out crates is a crime tho

[shadow void]

500 for me, maybe i'll use them probably not tho lol

[subtle finch]

perma shop is perma, weekly stuff is limited

[nova osprey]

ah no wonder, but all my ops are at 200 trust so i don't do that anymore lol

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

Its also useless

[valid ibex]

weekly stuff is also worthless

[vast iron]

Who needs like 500 gifts anyways

[tall tangle]

and i struggle every week thinking where to dump excess over 30kk...

[vast iron]

Not me

[valid ibex]

limited nothing is still nothing

[vast iron]

[nova osprey]

you're not wrong but this feels like collecting promotion materials every 4 days

[vast iron]

Limited air, buy now

[subtle finch]

you are limited

[shadow void]

[valid ibex]

i do this because i like sights of Wuling and i like using my ziplines does this count

[valid ibex]

no I'm
Guaranteed

[vast iron]

I love being limited

[nova osprey]

how much of each wuling material do you have so far

[nova osprey]

freaking 1-7

[shadow void]

I'll stop collecting rare gatherables when i get 40 operators worth of materials

[vast iron]

Being limited is a good thing, learn to abuse it

[gusty wave]

I have rigged every single originium place with mk 2 rigs, why tf am i still loosing some also dont mind the ferrium working on that

[vast iron]

[tall tangle]

how much a week?

[midnight harness]

your stockpile is full buddy

[vast iron]

Stash: 79999/80000

[shadow void]

mk2 rigs dont help with Originium

[midnight harness]

hey hekerz

[vast iron]

Your entire salary and then some

[nova osprey]

your storage hasn't dropped below max yet

[gusty wave]

So that means that im getting enough my storage is just full?

[vast iron]

Hai

[gusty wave]

Good

[brazen vortex]

Is there a sustainable way to make both?

[midnight harness]

if you use more than yield it would let u gain more

[nova osprey]

yeah, if it's not at max and it's acting like that then we have a problem

[valid ibex]

you don need both

[nova osprey]

why do you need both

[brazen vortex]

OK.

To get more of the thingies.

[valid ibex]

jade gourd is VERY much better than normal one

[brazen vortex]

But fine, I'll shut the other one off.

[nova osprey]

did you buy out phase 1 shop

[midnight harness]

guys am i onto something?

[brazen vortex]

Almost.

[valid ibex]

somehow better than batteries
and that's a level

[gusty wave]

Its so nice finally having a maxxed valley 4 base

[subtle finch]

my ops said they keep it in their room, so i must give them more

[gusty wave]

Now to do wuling

[vast iron]

We dont even know of any concrete proof that they have a room

[nova osprey]

make 6/min jade gourds, use remaining 30/min xiranite split between moulder and fitter to make 2/min regular gourds then ig

[vast iron]

Living quarters are unaccessible

It could just be propaganda

[nova osprey]

if you're doing 12/min scw and 6/min hxira

[shadow void]

damn i wanna have more customization options for dijang

[subtle finch]

gilberta wont lie to me

[vast iron]

She will

[tall tangle]

it's in protocol space. we pull them out like pokemons anyways

[shadow void]

[nova osprey]

she may look cutesy but that deathstare she gives laev when laev slaps her says otherwise

[vast iron]

Gilberta is actually selling your gifts on the black market

I just cant prove it

[valid ibex]

living quarters when dying thirds walk in

[bitter moat]

is 5 xiranite setups enough to produce xiranite for 2 lines of gourds or should i keep it at 1? (2 moulding units per thing)

[nova osprey]

@valid ibex are you proud, I'm using rock to farm rock

[vast iron]

Shrodinger's halves

[tall tangle]

(i'm totally not packaging all food gifts into v4 delivery)

[vast iron]

Im literally just delivering them blue sand

[valid ibex]

i have a team that is just for 1-7

[vast iron]

[nova osprey]

smh not trust farming?

[valid ibex]

i have like 5 ops that are not 200%, base will take care of them lol

[nova osprey]

[vast iron]

I have 0 opps at 200

Actually some of my nexus sla overworked ppl probably are

[valid ibex]

anyway
booted up endfield again just to check lmao

[nova osprey]

damn nice

[vast iron]

Insani

[valid ibex]

also lmao just in time

[valid ibex]

ehhh it takes like 5 min total

i have full zipline network for a reason lmao

actually whatever today im in the mood to do v4 mats

[vital narwhal]

I'm way too lazy to do this but theoretically you could set up wuling ziplines such that you can toggle the whole network by placing/removing one pylon and save a tiny bit of power by only powering it when you need it

[valid ibex]

some madlads here did exactly that iirc

[vital narwhal]

it's a lot easier now that you can power mining nodes from afar

but i'm still too lazy

[tall tangle]

it's fine being lazy

[trail mirage]

can this supply 2 jade gourd lines?

[tall tangle]

2 reactors

[subtle finch]

there should be no reason expanded crucibles can't do 2 same recipes in parallel

[tall tangle]

doubt space is a part of a question

[tall tangle]

they might go into infinity making 50 juice in 1 go

[foggy iris]

@nova osprey

made a seperate dense orig powder in main pac for now

[brazen vortex]

So... is this how it is?

[rare moon]

Would be cool pick the recipes for the crucible to make like if you want 3 same recipe or 3 different different recipes

[cyan berry]

what am i doing wrong for heavy xiranite?

[graceful wraith]

I got enough mats for like, 60-70 operators

So yea

[graceful wraith]

Check the recipe

[cyan berry]

i took it from the blueprint

connected everything and it still is not working

[vital narwhal]

maybe you didn't unlock the tech yet?

[rare moon]

Was heavy an upgrade

[vital narwhal]

yes

[cyan berry]

which tech is it?

[vital narwhal]

right side of the tree, near bottom

[cyan berry]

ah yeah... indeed i unlocked other things ugh

will try thanks

[graceful wraith]

Wait is 6/m super gourd enough for trimmed medal

[valid ibex]

yeah

[graceful wraith]

Mf I forgot abt the damn medal

Oh nice then

[tall tangle]

for medal, yes

[uneven aspen]

wonder how long this is gonna take

hmmm 5.5 hours guess i will be forced to log on again

[pure egret]

idk where i can set this up

[swift token]

everything being used (well, except ferrium cuz idk how to use that 15/min)

[unreal laurel]

yall are out of space because you didnt use your space effectively

[gusty wave]

What do i use to mine cuprium? Hyfro mining rig or is there smt better?

[unreal laurel]

hydro

make sure its 1pump:3rigs

[gusty wave]

Wdym

[rare moon]

that was easy

[uneven aspen]

i wonder if these will survive the purge

if they do eliminate i will bet on the bottles stored with some liquid

will survive

[versed inlet]

Does anyone have a simple blueprint for heavy xiranite?

[rare moon]

just building big number at this point

[spark hedge]

@versed inlet

[versed inlet]

Can you givem e the code?

[spark hedge]

EFO018IeEi72e81I7UI73

Asia

[versed inlet]

dThank you

Oh

wait.. asia

I am in EN LOL

Lol
*

[pure egret]

not my fault. had to make farm with no guide😭

[versed inlet]

I'll just copy this

[rare moon]

kinda depends what you need. if you're making sc batteries you can heavy with the inert from it. but if you ditch batteries and just want heavy youd have to make a separate effluent

[swift token]

if you have 12/min SC wuling batteries then all you need is just one forge of sky and one purification unit to produce 6/min heavy xiranite

[versed inlet]

I have plenty of energy so I am fine in that regard

[subtle finch]

im gonna try to store them in all places possible just to test where they cant take from

mail cache, stash in quarry, on the ground in dijang, in reactors, in belts, convergers

[uneven aspen]

hopefully some will survive because they didnt check a spot

also wondering if it auto deletes if you put them in inventory after the event is over

[tall tangle]

science

[swift token]

what i mean, producing SC wuling gives you this and you just connect it to water treatment unit, but instead you can use this in purification unit to get xircon effluent

[spring burrow]

I have just unlocked 1.2 factory setup now and put the event setup for Phase 1 today but ive also unlocked Phase 2 so should I just use Phase 2 blueprint that will help me get both phase 1 AND phase 2 rewards?

[nova osprey]

if you want everything you'll want an optimized 12/min jade gourd setup until you clear out shop

[winged dirge]

Does this look alright to yall? Or could it maybe be made more compact somehow? Right now it's 36x28

[nova osprey]

looks fine, but i don't recommend powering your thermal banks straight from packager

[spring burrow]

possible? i think its only 4 per min no?

[winged dirge]

Why not?

[subtle finch]

in v4 bus space is at a premium, you dont want to extend further than the depot unloader you are using

[nova osprey]

if by any chance you run out of one material or whatever, your entire factory will shut down, whereas doing it via an unloader will make it so your factory simply runs at lower efficiency

[subtle finch]

its just best practice not too, those are common cause of power failure

[winged dirge]

Ah, well unless the Devs Lower the Yield in future, this production will never stop

[spring burrow]

so for some reason at lvl 12 development level some mineral beds still have low purity ore in Wuling is that normal?

[nova osprey]

no im talking human error made by you potentially modifying different parts of your factory

it's not a failsafe for bugs, it's a failsafe for any mistake you might make

it's especially more important for wuling because well, it can get jank especially if you're making your own factory

since you'll have to modify it with updates and events

[winged dirge]

I am working right now to create a final design that i never touch again, i recently finished my itch of getting 80K of everything, (well, except for HC Batteries, and Citrome [A] and Buckflower [A] which i am building my Factory around right now) So i will make sure i never use more than what i yield

[nova osprey]

480 originium, 180 cuprium, 90 ferrium, if you get that you're fine

[nova osprey]

aight

[gusty wave]

How do i get rid of sewage?

[nova osprey]

use some for xircon effluent, use water treatment for the rest

[gusty wave]

Trying to make a cuprium component farm but my refining unit is full

[gusty wave]

How do i do that

[nova osprey]

pipe it out

[gusty wave]

Into what

[nova osprey]

water treatment facility or crucible for xircon

[spring burrow]

not sure why i have 170 cuprium for some reason

[foggy iris]

Close to rdm 12 v4

[nova osprey]

maybe didn't pipe right, whats your theoretical yield

[foggy iris]

Maybe within 5 hrs ill be done

[storm garnet]

fun fact: if you hit the 512 limit and the 1152 limit at the same time, it only shows the 512 error message

[gusty wave]

Why is the xiranite stat so different?

[storm garnet]

just things i learn by being in hell

[shadow void]

Sir, theres nothing fun about hitting either of those limits

[storm garnet]

tell me about it

[shadow void]

my Wuling AIC is also in that hell

[storm garnet]

i wonder about message priority with pipes...

[shadow void]

you arent consuming as much as you could

[storm garnet]

but i think i'm far from pipe limit

[storm garnet]

make another whole line of lc battery

[nova osprey]

maybe not enough water

[gusty wave]

Why that

[storm garnet]

you want 2

[shadow void]

doesnt look like hes consuming any of it

[nova osprey]

oh wait lol

nvm

[storm garnet]

so you make 12/min

[gusty wave]

No space in my pacs

[storm garnet]

and consume 60 xiranite

[nova osprey]

i just cant read lol

[gusty wave]

Or lemme check

[nova osprey]

.cantread

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1475997022615113900/cantread.gif?ex=699f84d8&is=699e3358&hm=f283e9f64e009c1dbd4556362116e277bbaaf6f50e83895e5c641e76003299d2&=&width=1080&height=728

[turbid basin]

what is the current max cuprium ore production/minute?

[gusty wave]

Yea

[nova osprey]

180

[turbid basin]

ok so i'm not going crazy

👍 ty

[storm garnet]

you already have the xiranite, so you only need the dense originium and the lc packager

[shadow void]

well its hard to tell w/o seeing the factory

[gusty wave]

One pac makes bats one makea xiranite and one makea cupriums components

[storm garnet]

consider expanding the main aic space

[gusty wave]

Ill do that someday

[storm garnet]

at least the first expansion is important

[gusty wave]

Prolly after i let this run for some days and sell everything

I think i did that alr

[storm garnet]

the last one can wait for when you are ending the factory

[deft orbit]

If Heavy Xira is only 6/m, why I see ppl doing 12/m Jade Gourds? Cleaning stock?

[storm garnet]

well, idk how things are anymore after the updates, but 1 expansion was enough for everything in 1.0 even without outposts

[nova osprey]

some people are doing 12/m hxira though

[storm garnet]

1.0 didn't have cuprium though

[shadow void]

yes

[nova osprey]

some are simply cleaning stock

[deft orbit]

no bateries?

[nova osprey]

it just depends on the person

[shadow void]

if you have stock you can do whatever and still run regular production for a bit

[nova osprey]

1.5/min scw and 4.5/min hcv is enough

[shadow void]

I had 68k stored in Wuling and i'm just coming up on depleting it running 66/m Jade Gourds. 3 hours till i need to look at it and slow it down

[storm garnet]

9/min gourd can last for a while with stock, but then you are not using half a forge

switching backa and forth 6 and 12 works too

[deft orbit]

when it comes down to outpost selling, doing heavy xira is actually better than batteries? No, right?

[nova osprey]

yeah it is

[shadow void]

I wont need to switch anything over to extra Hvy Xiranite since i've also got 80k stored in V4, but really I dont think i'm going to touch that now

[nova osprey]

12/min is more efficient outpost wise

[nova osprey]

also there's an added reason why we're doing 12/min or even more with prestocked. if the event description really is as it says it is, we can get an extra 14 million stock bills that the average non factory player would not get

[shadow void]

you need ~130k to deplete outpost bills (if you started Phase2 at max), and that also gets you the certs to buyout the shop

[deft orbit]

The 1.5 bateries is the actual for sale or just to power the base?

[craggy oyster]

Yes, turn off both battery, running strait from ori and some stock HCV

[nova osprey]

mine is sale, im using 4.5/min hcv instead

but i mean

i can't even sell the scw

the gourds sell out the entire outpost before the scw even gets a turn

[storm garnet]

you need less than 9/min gourds to sell out the outposts

[nova osprey]

im running 12/min out of 8.89 needed to clear outpost

[shadow void]

but i'm running 66/m so my results are different

[craggy oyster]

Alright, im setting up some aggeloi free zone soon. Hit me up if u wanna join

[nova osprey]

actually im running 24/min to clear stock but

eh

[deft orbit]

so the 12 heavy xira build is just for the gourds?

[nova osprey]

not using mortars

[nova osprey]

yeah

12/min hxira goes to 12/min gourd

[gusty wave]

Does anyone know an early game wuling farm that makes cuprium components? I just wanna finally build laevatain

[craggy oyster]

all camps are full mortals tho. it's just extra

[nova osprey]

larger range though, more coverage

[craggy oyster]

Wdym

[nova osprey]

i thought mortars had larger range than sentries, is it not that way?

[deft orbit]

so once the event is done you'll go back to 6/m heavy I take?

[nova osprey]

i might be wrong

[nova osprey]

i mean depends on what test area has to offer yeah

6/min hxira isn't good on its own

[storm garnet]

when the event is done we get a new aic update

[nova osprey]

well day after

[storm garnet]

might as well not touch it if it's just a day

[nova osprey]

but when the event is over for NA, asia gets update too lol

[storm garnet]

well, maybe stockpile heavy or something

[nova osprey]

gonna be a half day wait

[nova osprey]

that's what i might do

[craggy oyster]

brruh mortals craft from cup part, im not that rich yet. im talking about 80k Sentry

[nova osprey]

oh i thought you were just putting random turrets everywhere lmao

not make 80k turrets

[deft orbit]

Before the event, I was running a 9/m SCW, 3/m HetoPa, 6/m HXira and 3/m Syringe. That gives me 1.235.520/day, and the outposts generate 1.112.832/day.
Unless one wants to overstack, I don't think there is a need for more

[nova osprey]

yeah well people who live in this channel dont care about all that

as in

they will go crazy

[storm garnet]

btw, i heard new zone has more cuprium, i wonder how is that gonna work

[nova osprey]

just cause

[storm garnet]

current cuprium at max purity is 240 already

[deft orbit]

aah yea yea that's fair xD

[storm garnet]

240 for heto and extra for food maybe?

[deft orbit]

are we gonna get full purity tho?

[nova osprey]

probably not

[storm garnet]

devs better gives us more purity

[deft orbit]

I don't think so neither xD

[storm garnet]

it has to happen eventually, and it's already overdue

[deft orbit]

I think they rather give us more places to put stuff than to give more purity

[storm garnet]

if i'm not wrong, 2.0 won't be that far either

[river wadi]

if we get more cuprium then we need more ferrium since 1 hetonite and 2 xircon lines already use up all 90 ferrium

[storm garnet]

high purity ferrium is 120 atm

but hopefully we get a bit more

maybe 60?

[nova osprey]

i think they're gonna slow trickle purity over patches

weve already hit rdm 12 and haven't gotten many purity increases after all

[storm garnet]

they already do, it's just the choices they made so far are a bit weird

[nova osprey]

how so

[storm garnet]

it's not about lvl, but about adding extra purity to lvl rewards

[shadow void]

I know this topic has been beaten over and over. The event (Phase 2) ends on May 13, and all goods will be auto converted to bills/certs being sent to our ingame mail. Anything over the stockbill limit (assumed to be our 14m max) will auto convert into just more certs. So the thinking here is, you deplete the stockbills that outposts have right before the event ends. If you have less than 14 million currently held stockbills all excess gourds will convert to more stockbills even though the outposts dont have any. Is this the currect assumtion some ppl have?

[storm garnet]

they do so retroactively

[nova osprey]

aye

[river wadi]

Amethyst is useless rn

[nova osprey]

this is the assumption we have but we don't know if it's correct

[deft orbit]

what a waste of a resource... I hope we end up using it in the future for anything important

[shadow void]

NA/EU players have an advantage here in that Asia players will know first due to the ~12 hour difference

[nova osprey]

yeah

[storm garnet]

hopefully you are wrong cause i don't want to stockpile gourds

[shadow void]

I get that they get sent to the in-game mail, but it really dosent make sense to get more bills than the outposts have

[deft orbit]

I think it will just give you Fruits, like it does right now.

[river wadi]

is that a bad thing

[storm garnet]

it's annoying

[deft orbit]

This is the message that appears when you wanna trade Gourds without Stockbills on the outposts, so I think the "event end" will trigger this too

[subtle finch]

only english client users believe its the 14m limit, not the outpost savings limit

[shadow void]

well i can just push over 80k from V4 and run 66/m for those 12 hours if its true, Asia players dont have that luxury. Its either dont, or potentially waste hvy xiranite and heto

[storm garnet]

i'm thinking is that too

[shadow void]

I'm NA, i thought it was outpost bills limit

[turbid basin]

what's the current cap on wuling regional development points

[storm garnet]

though it's weird it would use up the outposts in that "smart" way

[turbid basin]

I'm just going through a checklist of things to see if i missed anything anywhere this patch and i'm not sure if i got everything i can (but I think i did)

[craggy oyster]

what . it literally said it the outpost litmit tho

[tall tangle]

i dont think cuz i dont want extra bills

[solemn jacinth]

ok chat

so

[shadow void]

its says "stock bill limit"

[storm garnet]

you just said outpost limit too lol. 14m is not the outpost limit

[solemn jacinth]

kann I trimm the medal if i start making jade gourds now?

[storm garnet]

it's the player limit

[solemn jacinth]

with only 1 heavy xira forge?

[subtle finch]

in the other menu yes, in the event fineprint it's vague, that's why people have been arguing over it for too long now

[shadow void]

if it said "stock bill limt of outposts" that would make it crystal clear to everyone i guess

[craggy oyster]

yeah but what "stock bill limit" that we can "excess" now? there's only that 14m one right?

[shadow void]

the limit of outposts

if they have 0 bills to give how can we get more?

[storm garnet]

the 14m limit is called stock bill limit

so uhm...

[craggy oyster]

bruh we have nothing to do with that tho. that their own rate and we cant it "excess" at all

we can only excess the 14m now

[nova osprey]

in other languages it says outpost limit?

ah welp

time to scrap my entire factory

i had a feeling it was localization issue

[shadow void]

they have a limit

[nova osprey]

chinese says outpost limit yeah?

[shadow void]

of what they can give

[nova osprey]

guh

if chinese one says outpost limit then yeah definitely just outpost limit

[craggy oyster]

but can u " excess" that? u ever see a 2300000/2200000?

[storm garnet]

so it's just using up the gourds automatically in the same way it would if the player did it, nothing else

[craggy oyster]

i mean if u are forcing to understand that way then alright, u do u. But in this case the common sense mostlikely gonna be the 14m limit

[storm garnet]

i wonder what the priority would be. all of the first outpost first, then the second? % based of both?

some people here don't even read everyone else lol

[solemn jacinth]

this should trim no?

[shadow void]

you can logic it out in your head whatever way you want, i'll stick with my understanding that i cant pull more stockbills from outposts than they can offer

[storm garnet]

(i'm guilty of that too lol)

[spice tartan]

Absolutely wasn't worth the effort to go above 6/min jade gourds but hey big number

[storm garnet]

it is worth it actually, outpost use up almost 9/min gourds

[spice tartan]

oh cool so at least I can buy out both outposts (still not worth it as I don't have much need for wuling bills anymore)

[storm garnet]

are you a 1 team only guy?

cause otherwise you always need bills

[spice tartan]

is it obvious?

[shadow void]

i just need to build my factory to burn 120/m jade gourds

[trail mirage]

[storm garnet]

you should try to get a few different teams, not all teams work everywhere exactly the same

still, this game is quite good at still letting you use just 1 team tbh

also, more teams are fun

[wide grove]

is jade gourd necessary to empty out the shop or it can be done with normal gourd ?

[spice tartan]

I'm allergic to going stocking up materials before events

[storm garnet]

(says me, leveling up multiple teams but still using the same one from 1.0)

[trail mirage]

you can empty shop with 2 lines of normal gourd but you wont get trimmed

[wide grove]

ty

[storm garnet]

there is an achivement for getting 20k jade gourds

[trail mirage]

[subtle finch]

you can try ask Hx2 when they're here, i think they're using cn client

[craggy oyster]

so u made some stock but u didnt sell it. and after the event all ur stock gonna be send into ur parter's bank account and u gonna have to made other stock to buy it back?

[shadow void]

Hey, thats a good problem to have

[spice tartan]

one day I'll build an electric team and learn how to use it

If only I had zhuang, then surely. hear that game? give me zhuang

[storm garnet]

i built the yvonne/tangtang team but can't be arse to learn the rotation

[trail mirage]

im still using lae team

[storm garnet]

laeve team is just so easy to use

i only have the speedrun medal for the first boss though lol

[spice tartan]

Didn't get tangtang, haven't gotten zhuang yet, got rossi and been using lae since like the beginning (she's okay)

[shadow void]

you didnt make much sense here

[spice tartan]

I've been thinking of trying to trim boss medals with an avy team but I really haven't attempted them seriously yet

[solemn jacinth]

which is just like
55 hours of 6/gourds per min

[storm garnet]

yea, that gourd medal is easy

[shadow void]

I'm gonna make what i need to deplete outpost stockbills by the end of the event, i'm not going to make more than necessary, because the outpost dosent have the stockbills to give me

[craggy oyster]

this is ur understanding, the outpost limit and not our 14m limit.

[keen river]

the medal doesnt count above the limit :<

sadness

[spice tartan]

Should give us some actually challenges next time smh.. 55 hours on 6/min? come ON

[trail mirage]

the two outpost makes 49728+14280 so 64008 per hour, there are 8 days left so thats 192 hours,each gourd gives 120 bills so i need to make 103k gourds before switching back to my old factory

if i can keep up with the 24/m usage right now ill be done in about 3days

[spice tartan]

No, you need to make ALL the gourds you can until the event ends, THEN you can switch

just because

[storm garnet]

yea, localization team says to hoard

.stonks

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929296146497639/G6Ih57bacAITmvm.png?ex=691ff17b&is=691e9ffb&hm=91e95e84256e6e195565713e124e50b7d0551f1528c7ee8642b763175e1d9290&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=527&height=395

[keen river]

if the excess gouds are actually converted into 120 stocks each

[trail mirage]

only if there are any left in your outpost i think

[river wadi]

Known?

[trail mirage]

one sec

[storm garnet]

guys we just talked about it

[keen river]

stock bill limi is probably the daily stock limit

[warm oriole]

that means you cap 14m/14m

[keen river]

yeah

[river wadi]

doesnt that refer to the inventory limit

[shadow void]

Its like the ppl banking on an infinite tcredit sink

[storm garnet]

english localization is different from other languages. the game will just use the gourds as if the player did it, same way, nothing else

[warm oriole]

which is wild, buy some catalyst lol

[river wadi]

the outpost trade limit is actually called the "stock bill savings"

[warm oriole]

how does cn side says then

[spice tartan]

Cert trade will be open for another 20 days right? to give time to trade I guess

[keen river]

the interpretation is very different

[warm oriole]

yes shop stay for a while after event ends

[spice tartan]

they should refresh the cert stocks just because

[storm garnet]

most event shops in games last for like a week more than the event

[shadow void]

14 - 19

[trail mirage]

should i transfer gourds to v4 thee

[storm garnet]

you don't need to

[shadow void]

they'll probably still be auto converted

[trail mirage]

ill be capped out by the end of the week

by around 130k

[storm garnet]

use them?

[shadow void]

or transfer if you wanna see a big number somewhere

[rocky niche]

after almost 7hours of factory building, i manage to get 12/min jade gourds now...

[trail mirage]

extra on top after i bankrupted the outposts

[storm garnet]

out posts fill up in 2 days rn cause of the event

[trail mirage]

how does that take 7 hours

[storm garnet]

you need to use the gourds often

[spice tartan]

SC batteries....

[rocky niche]

i had to start from scratch because i was using kyostinv bp before, but his jade gourd production is only 6/min. i wanted 12/min, so i had to DIY the whole thing

[rare moon]

sc bats are retired for a week

[trail mirage]

this why we make our own og bp from the start so its easy to modify :D

[river wadi]

i use small bps for individual ingredients and glue them together

[shadow void]

nothing stops

[rocky niche]

the sc battery is 1.5/min. i purify inert xircon effluent to feed sc batt prod

[rocky niche]

66/min?!

[trail mirage]

all i did was halt the xircon line, delete battery line and change it into originum power line

[shadow void]

for another hour or 2

[rocky niche]

i still have remaining originium line left. what do i do with the leftover? lc wulbat?

[shadow void]

still got 80k hvy/heto in V4 if needed, but i dont think it will be

[rocky niche]

[river wadi]

xiranite component

[shadow void]

i'll be ready to burn at double the rate if i'm wrong

[rare moon]

Put them in banks

[trail mirage]

how did we produce 80k extra in the first place🤔

[shadow void]

magic, and i never sold Hvy Xiranite to outposts

[rocky niche]

i cant. i use all xira for jade gourds now

[trail mirage]

all i have was 45k compoents and 50k extra hv xiranite

ah right i got 20k botled up

[river wadi]

wuling bats also eat xiranite

[shadow void]

i can get atleast 48x3 if i wanted a low effort solution. My marker stone is a 48/m factory, i'll just rip out my 7 forges from Skyking and put a 48/m jade gourd factory there, and everything in the main aic for one too

then i'll beable to burn at 144/m Jade gourds for 12 hours, if i'm wrong

[rocky niche]

i recycle the inert xircon from hxira prod. that's what i use to create sc wulbat

[rare moon]

could just put the inerts to self

[craggy oyster]

u need to do extra stuff like f V4 trade, run wuling all on HCV so all ur SCW can be sell, break boxes everyday or smt like it

[trail mirage]

i mean you dont have to sell v4

[tough berry]

current min max of power and banzai im done gourd event got my 80k in valley back to normal life XD

[craggy oyster]

yes . that what i mean by f V4 trade, all resources go in to wuling in someway

[rare moon]

raw originium powered

[storm garnet]

wait, can you use items in 1 region depot to get bills from an outpost in another region?

[tough berry]

nope

[storm garnet]

f

[tough berry]

you have to transfer it bCk

[craggy oyster]

they dont share anything in the 1st place

but the resources to make it is the same

like buck A only need Fe. so do Yahzen A

C i mean

[rare moon]

technically share storage for facility building

[storm garnet]

that's what made me think it could maybe check for outpost too

crafting checks all too i think

cant remember

[rocky niche]

craft origocrust

[craggy oyster]

this is recently change i think. i rmb before i have to make thoose stuff from amethyst components and move manually to wuling . so i ended up juts move some raw amethyst to make whatever i need in wuling

[rocky niche]

materials to craft facilities are shared between regions

but the facilities crafted arent shared

have to manual transfer

[rare moon]

i could craft oritos in wuling ig

[storm garnet]

pretty sure the change was just that you didn't need to be inside the aic to craft buildings

[tough berry]

funny stuff on that changes

its mades mr easy stash obselere

since you can craft anywhere now

[rocky niche]

imma yeet the amethyst parts from v4 to wuling, so that amethyst parts gets contined prod in v4 and wuling depot gets stacked with amethyst parts

[craggy oyster]

welcome to the clubs

[rocky niche]

hoarder mentality

[river wadi]

wth are amethyst, ferrium and cryston components even do

[craggy oyster]

im teaching Tang tang to be a DJ, that is a must

[storm garnet]

v4 components are great for... low level challenges?

[tough berry]

hrmm shpuld i hoard or should i be lazy

[storm garnet]

there are some purple sets that can be meta sometimes though

so cryston ones can have some use, but not much

[river wadi]

wha

[tough berry]

aince rn km doing meta transfer of blue bat its reduce my usage by 25 mins

[storm garnet]

like, just make 1k cryston components and you have enough for life

[craggy oyster]

oh f. i didnt touch meta transfer for daysssss. im losing resourcesssssss

[storm garnet]

they can't be upgraded anyways

[rocky niche]

hoard the materials to craft facilities

[tough berry]

blame event

for us not needing originium cube

nor dust

[craggy oyster]

nvm im good ahahah. i craft this everyday

[tough berry]

my valley full of building mats

[storm garnet]

that's steel btw

[tough berry]

whats you gonna use it for?

[craggy oyster]

time to make higher tier items

[river wadi]

there are like 5 better towers to use

[storm garnet]

you can use v4 steel to craft tower in wuling

no need to meta it

[foggy iris]

Yo if i use kiyostinv wuling build with jade gourd will i be able to make with using same amount of heavy xira intake?

[tough berry]

tf chi

[craggy oyster]

im not craft to use lol. all camp are full mortal already

[ruby sorrel]

chat help me count, is this 1/7

[craggy oyster]

yes

[ancient pier]

anyone have a 9/min splitter?

[ruby sorrel]

I wonder how far down the primes this motif can go

[lethal dirge]

just saturate your shit, once the things are gone it will regulate itself

[tough berry]

what you doing with that poor sandleaf

[ruby sorrel]

I'm giving the sandleaf some sun before sending it back into the depot

[craggy oyster]

can u cal it or just try and see? cuz im thinking this thing is base on spliter converger delay, and it actually not 1/7

[tough berry]

btw what stuff need 1/7?

[ruby sorrel]

okay so the thing works because the first splitter gets blocked every time the last splitter sends stuff back and instead of splitting to the side goes forwards once every ?? cycles

by doing this you avoid the problem of hitting belt throughput limit when looping back

[spice tartan]

Endfield MF Industries couldn't come up with a ratio controller so we have to resort to splitter magic

[ruby sorrel]

so you don't need to split half and do the funny shit that makes the thing huge

[vital narwhal]

new prime splitter

[ruby sorrel]

it should work with final split denominator-1

[vital narwhal]

[subtle finch]

they cant even cure rock cancer smh

[craggy oyster]

yo, nice 20x23 12/mins btw. been waiting to see u

[rare moon]

wouldve been funny to meta transfer gourds

[spice tartan]

neither can we but at least we can ratio our stuff

[spring elm]

i wish some of these units werent such space hogs

[ruby sorrel]

but you'd have to confirm it actually works since idk if the phasing actually works out to block the first splitter every time

that's too much math for me

[spice tartan]

game's way of balancing I guess, wouldn't be as challenging if everything was 3x3

[craggy oyster]

so sometime it a belt sometime it a spliter ic

[spice tartan]

the seeder and farmers though god damn, could get a bit smaller

[spring elm]

this right here is what im talking about

[spice tartan]

I have my entire sky flats just full of jincao farms for carbon cubes

[craggy oyster]

i mean the size is pretty much have to be like that. compare the size of real plant in the wild to that machine

[spice tartan]

We pull out entire machines out of thin air, they could think of something

[spring elm]

lol

[craggy oyster]

fair enough lol

[vital narwhal]

idk I feel like even 4x4 planterseeder the designs would be easier by a pretty insane degree, personally I do like that there is big size difference between certain machine types

[spice tartan]

at least jincao is efficient

problem with 4x4 is that the fluid entrance wouldn't be symmetric and that's annoying

5x4 maybe

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I guess if you skip a 1/2 split every x rounds from the final 1/x split you end up with 1/(x-1) which should be how the loopback for the other prime splitters work too, but since those do it by converger and you can't actually have (x+1)/x throughput it introduces a big amount of stuff to ensure nothing gets jammed and changing the splitter ratio

[craggy oyster]

top size entrance

like how it should be

[ruby sorrel]

pipe fromthe sky

[vital narwhal]

the pipe do be annoying but it's interesting design challenge

[spice tartan]

waiting for z-levels in my factory

[vital narwhal]

the different rotational preferences of machines are a nice mosaic of competing design incentives

[craggy oyster]

could easy make it a 2x2 waterting zone in a 4x4 machine. make sense

[spice tartan]

and conveyor lifts coughsatisfactorycough

[ruby sorrel]

can't wait until they create machines that aren't rectangular

[spice tartan]

4.5x5.5

[vital narwhal]

machines with non-rectangular shapes would seriously balloon the design space

[craggy oyster]

my biggest hate toward devs is they give us 9x9 AIC. like seriously ....

[ruby sorrel]

that's only because they gave us even edge lengths in pac

[vital narwhal]

maybe in future region aic will feel less like liability

[ruby sorrel]

otherwise you'd complain about the opposite

[vital narwhal]

nah I'm not complaining, i'd welcome it tbh

best thing about PAC rn is omega compact depot loader

[craggy oyster]

i would make 8x8 with 6 special node that can be both input/output

[spice tartan]

AIC is at least good for stuffing converyors into. dont mention the protocol stash

[shadow void]

Its gonna feel horrible for some ppl regardless, especially with events like this one where they have to

[ruby sorrel]

wait... 1/13 would be hard cus hitting 1/14 is hard too, 1/11 seems to work though

anyways these fractions are too small to matter

[vital narwhal]

1/14 should work since you have 1/7

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but splitting a 1/14 out without bricking the thing and then looping it back.... the routing will be a mess

[river wadi]

js take your 1/7 splitter and put a 1/2 split at the end of it

[ruby sorrel]

yes but the way it works is you get the 1/7 by preferentially blocking it

I can't build a 1/13 off of that

[vital narwhal]

thank you hikarin for the emoji

[subtle finch]

@vital narwhal you really keep bringing up my older ideas

[craggy oyster]

send the other 1/2 to depot?

[vital narwhal]

convergent factory brainrot

[ruby sorrel]

what about pentaminos

W-shaped building

[vital narwhal]

they would have two outputs share a corner and force you to use a bridge by default

📈

[craggy oyster]

Lmao it been awhile

[vital narwhal]

medical tower in aic

[craggy oyster]

healing zone when tele

[vital narwhal]

but tele heals already?

[craggy oyster]

u need to rest, no?

[subtle finch]

it can be argued fluid mode units are already non-rectangular

[indigo obsidian]

do you think i need 2 forge of the sky making heavy xiranite for the 20k jade of the event or is 1 forge of the sky making heavy xiranite going to be enough? 🙂

[craggy oyster]

is it a new thing?

[vital narwhal]

pretty sure since 1.0 you can just tp to aic and it auto heals you

revive too

=rest

[craggy oyster]

hmm testing time

[rocky niche]

wuling tp point give buffs

[spice tartan]

1 forge (6/min) is enough, it's like 55 hours to get 20k

if you want to buy out both outpost with jade gourds that's a different story

[ruby sorrel]

hmm didn't someone want a 4/15 previously

[frozen blade]

Jade alert

[craggy oyster]

it doesss 😭😭😭😭 i probably got flash back by other games and just setting a healing zone in a base then

[vital narwhal]

lol glad to help

[glad needle]

guys is worth to get that 100*500 credit

[indigo obsidian]

do i need to make less xiricon ceko? to have more xiranite availible for this?

@spice tartan i currently have 5 xiricon production

[craggy oyster]

No. but the actually bill price is much better than battery or h.xir or heto part. So u wanna make it anyway

might aswell get extra 50k

[shadow void]

Its only 50k credits, it should be the last thing you get, atleast for me it is

[glad needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779196945448304640/1364708570355990538/togif.gif

man

do you guys on 30/m jade gourd or what

im at 12 atm

[shadow void]

66 for a bit, then back down to 6/m

[glad needle]

66???

[shadow void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spice tartan]

You can have one line producing xircon full-time. That's 2 sky forges. 4 for full heavy xiranite for the gourds. You're left with 2 sky forges for whatever you want. Personally I have one sky forge for xircon producing 3/min SC battery and rest on heavy xira for 10/min jade gourds, but you don't need that much for trimming

[glad needle]

damn

you must purchase all the upgrades