aic-factory

[shadow void]

thx all

[vast iron]

thermal is probably to save facilities

[uneven aspen]

so confused 10 min aic report 0 usage

[vast iron]

but calculating the origium rate is gonna take so many splitters and shi itl be a net negative

[vast iron]

youre on a dip

so its currently 0

[uneven aspen]

30 min is 2/min when im trying to do 3/min 💀

[mystic glen]

idk, I remember it not being that expensive facility wise, but been a while since I checked it

stopped looking into it cuz calculating every time is hell

[vast iron]

a single thermal bank is 1 facility tho

[mystic glen]

so dige site always best

[vast iron]

you cant beat 1 facility by using a dige

using dige on originium is waste of time

[mystic glen]

no I mean to replace dige on hc valey bat line

[rocky niche]

when doing 12/min jade gourd, do you guys run 2 sc batt line? no more cuprium nor xira comp lines left?

[craggy oyster]

what the ratio on xir to gourd again? anyone rmb?

[uneven aspen]

surprisely in 1.2 I've now tried out all 3 of these. the 4 and 6/min works so im confused if the 3/min is working or needs more time

[rocky niche]

1 hxira + 1 heto = 1 gourd line

[shadow void]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=J8z4A5g2z4W0u9

[uneven aspen]

did i copy it correctly? im not sure 😔

[vast iron]

i have a stable line but its chonky

[mystic glen]

looks right to me

[craggy oyster]

no the phase 1 one. not j.gourd

[uneven aspen]

im running 1 sc wuling and 2 hc valley in thermal banks 18/m jade gourds

[vast iron]

why do you need 3/min if youre running 18

just use clogging..?

unless youre merging lines with smt

[uneven aspen]

18/m is to burn

eventualyl when all gone back to 12/m which uses the 3/min

[vast iron]

12 is 2 full rate

so you dont need any limiter?

whats the point

its full efficiency

just let it clog

[uneven aspen]

im just doing this

[vast iron]

its 12 per minute

2 full rate

= no limiters needed

dont waste your time

[uneven aspen]

limiters on what?

[mystic glen]

do you want a depot line throttled at 12/min?

[vast iron]

hetonite..?

[uneven aspen]

the 3/min is for heto parts

[vast iron]

worst case just prio split it

itl be easier

[valid gazelle]

me when i allergic 🚫

[vast iron]

priosplit 12 into gourds

or smt

[rocky niche]

oh, i dont know this one. i just copied bp before replacing for phase 2. now i'm using copied bp for phase 2 but i wanna delete everything and make my own bp from scratch instead

[mystic glen]

I made this earlier, tested it for 10 minutes ish and it seemed to be accurate

[rocky niche]

1.5 per min sc battery?

[vast iron]

all in on heavy, excess inert purified into xircon for batteries

[rocky niche]

so this involved recycling

[uneven aspen]

what about it?

easy to limit to two originum depot unloaders

[rocky niche]

just trying to understand the division of raw material lines

[uneven aspen]

it's a bit ugly but it works

[subtle finch]

have you seen my 24/min

[mystic glen]

nope

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

gifted power vs pure effort

[mystic glen]

oh I see, actually neat trick

just have to have any random steady 6/min production line

[upper fiber]

till the priority flow get messed up when offline...

[vast iron]

it wont, i hope

that one looks stable

you dont really need it anywas

[mystic glen]

99% of the stuff posted here is not needed lol

still cool tho

[subtle finch]

i needed that 12/min a few days ago, you were too late 🥀

[vast iron]

[mystic glen]

glad I was, cuz you did something I didn't think about with that 24/min one and now I learned a new trick

[subtle finch]

someone actually used it before and routed the 6/min to the bus first

[uneven aspen]

this overflow priority thing via control pipes works to my surprised.

[upper fiber]

my 12/min works though

[subtle finch]

[mystic glen]

wtf

[vast iron]

thats not...

[ruby sorrel]

uhhh what's math

[upper fiber]

it is called jamming tech

[subtle finch]

oh speaking about that, i tried it too, but it cant seem to handle 2/s of fluid, so i just went with those old prio valve

[vast iron]

thats not 12...

doesnt add up

[upper fiber]

yeah, if logically, but because the belt converger too close, they got jammed and slowed down

[mystic glen]

I think that's probs 12**~ish**/min

[vast iron]

its probably like 12.smt and got rounded

[uneven aspen]

it broke when i put 2 100% cuprium refiners of sewage

but it's working fine with only 1 refiner rn

[subtle finch]

call our resident tester

[uneven aspen]

if using 2 sources this works

since it requires input more than what hte crucible wants

[upper fiber]

stable 12/min i think

[uneven aspen]

this overflow via control pipe works when you want 1 or less sewage to crucible

in this case the expanded crucible is feeding back xireffu to the heavy xiranite forge. so it only wants 24/30 sewage per min

so 6 sewage goes to treatment per min

[subtle finch]

it's kinda pointless then having true prio for that size+fac count and only 1 unit worth of throughput 🥀

[vast iron]

im in denial

[subtle finch]

fr fr

[vast iron]

you wouldnt get it...

[ruby sorrel]

converger overclocking

[upper fiber]

it is perfect 2/5 of 30

[vast iron]

but why does it work

[ruby sorrel]

I don't see how that isn't just 1/3

how do you get more out of it than the splitter fraction

oh wait the 1/2 conflict

it'll send an extra forwards every x rounds when the 1/3 loops back

[subtle finch]

i mean in theory 12/min should be around that small following the pattern

[frozen blade]

You can make it more simpler, like this.

[ruby sorrel]

it's still a 1/5 variation, if you want to do it without jamming it should be a bit bigger

[subtle finch]

can you even do these weird ratios without jamming?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah you loopback

past the first splitter

[vast iron]

no but

its

compact

[uneven aspen]

how much water is in the pipes?

[vast iron]

you dont realize how big this is do you

this is huge

[frozen blade]

Just 1 fluid,

[subtle finch]

looks like someone made a 15x15 12/min limiter

[uneven aspen]

will try it out, ty

[vast iron]

i have no idea how they gigured it out

[vast iron]

im going to smack you

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

i cri

my day is ruined

thank you ❤️

[subtle finch]

do you know the max throughput this can take?

[frozen blade]

1 liquid/second.

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I meant as a n/5 if it didn't use jamming tech it'd be a lot bigger

[vast iron]

jamming tech is basically used most of the time anyways

[subtle finch]

so 2 cuprium refinement max?

[vast iron]

jamming is happening more cases than not

so even if it is jam based its revolutionary

[subtle finch]

true

[tepid wigeon]

6/min jade clears out shop minus t creds in 4 days?

[vast iron]

-# im just mad i cant advertize my designs anymore whenever somoen asks for stable 1/5

[jovial breach]

1/5 is cursed

[frozen blade]

Yea, if you use bigger output like 2 liquid/sec which is the max pipe can output, it will clog.

[vast iron]

someone just cracked 1/5

its over

[jovial breach]

i mean there's 2 way to achieve it

[mystic glen]

about this big

[vast iron]

no

we have a small and stable way for 1/5 now

stable as in consistent gaps

[frozen blade]

That jamming tech was found back in 1.1, there's another tech found in 1.2 using the same logic as converger belt. And it's using Conduit Output Manifold.

[subtle finch]

@final sierra you have a lot more to test here, scroll up

[jovial breach]

one being try to get 24/min and minus that and the other way is approaching 6/min

[sharp island]

is there a way for me to make blueprints outside of having to place stuff

[vast iron]

half this and itl be 1/5 stable

[ruby sorrel]

testing time

[vast iron]

i did some maths it should work in theory

[sharp island]

my factory is running out od space and i need to change some designs but i dont want to affect the factory

[vast iron]

the numbers do add up

[jovial breach]

i mean yeah you can try to get 18/min and then self clog it

[uneven aspen]

it's working as intended i think, so ty gives more options

[vast iron]

bro it is 12/min we just cut it in half

boom

1/5 beltspeed

it can literally be uh

4 by 4 1/5 splitter

do you realize how small that is

4 by 4!

[jovial breach]

it's still cursed to look at

[sharp island]

excuse me

[vast iron]

i swear bro sold his soul to design that blueprint

its wild

[mystic glen]

when you half it at the end, where would you put the excess? merger above the current one with splitter before it to give it higher prio?

[vast iron]

[sharp island]

is there a way to make blueprints without having to place the objects in the factory

[vast iron]

merger before the first one, yes

[nova osprey]

half what

[vast iron]

replace the inital belt with a merger and connect there

[nova osprey]

oh nvm o.o

[mystic glen]

would need some shufeling then to stay within 4x4 then no? and hope the shufeling doesn't break stuff

[vast iron]

nah, since wed be able to remove the converger at the end since only 1 output

so we cut off that row

[mystic glen]

oh yeah, good catch

now I see why you are so exited about this one

[sharp island]

erm

[vast iron]

your answer is no btw

[mystic glen]

no shufeling, just merger from back to front, done

[sharp island]

ah okay

[jovial breach]

holy prod

[sharp island]

balls im gonna need to use that main valley 4 spot to make blueprints then

[vast iron]

i have suffered with 1/5 for so fucking long

abused bugs to make a 1/10 that had constant gaps

its like 15 by 15

and boom

black magic bullshit design

i cant even believe it works

[mystic glen]

honnestly this feels like a happy accident lol

[vast iron]

mabe

[subtle finch]

guys, smallest 12/min trust
ignore the fitting units on the right

[mystic glen]

I do hope it actually is consistant tho, and not .smthing

[vast iron]

squints

[jovial breach]

wtf 50% bonus

[pulsar cypress]

U can use enka for experimenting setup..
But its not transferable to game iirc..

[iron stratus]

should i go 12 jade gourd 1.5 sc and 2 regular gourd or 12 jade gourd and 5.25 sc

[jovial breach]

can we even keep up with the outpost now

[vast iron]

wild

[mystic glen]

been testing the new one for 14 minutes now, it's spot on

[pulsar cypress]

That's what i curious also.
Can we wipe out bills just using j gourd.. XD

[jovial breach]

why even bother making normal gourd

[frozen blade]

That's wild, phase 1 buff is like +10% ~ +15% IIRC.

[iron stratus]

more event currency

[vast iron]

10 i think

[subtle finch]

let me check for you guys

[white dune]

wjen does part 2 of this update happen for AIC?

[jovial breach]

oh wait

[nova osprey]

may 14th

[white dune]

wait thats so far..

[dire vapor]

It works, and thats all I could ask for

[nova osprey]

it happens the day after event ends

[dire vapor]

I have 2 of these running right now for 24/min burning the stockpiled Heavy Xira

[vast iron]

that farm loop is diabolical

[jovial breach]

idk the math but jgourd should be more cert per xiranite no?

[vast iron]

[autumn maple]

we got umbral this week. some time to kill time while waiting next week major update

[iron stratus]

im producing 12 jade in both

im just seeing what to use the extra 1 line of xira for

[vapid granite]

I want to use the inert xircon from the xircon production to purify and direct it to make heavy xirinite

But does that mean the xircon production has to be in the same aic plot as the heavy xirinite right?

[dire vapor]

Never seen a planter and seeding unit that far apart before? 🙂

[vast iron]

not often

[dire vapor]

Gotta make it pseudo symmetrical

[pulsar cypress]

Change to hxira then make j-gourd.

[iron stratus]

then i'd pass 1.5 sc usage

[valid gazelle]

not a lot of tcreds...

game really hates unlimited grind

[dire vapor]

The stocked bills were timed somewhat nicely

[iron stratus]

oh nevermind i dont even have an extra forge anyways

[pine sail]

can I see the price?

[pulsar cypress]

Let the 1 forge run xira till almost max depot. Turn off all the xira prod facilities.
Then move the forge, use to make hxira.
U wont have any energy problem.

[dire vapor]

Its 120 bills 30 certs for jade

[iron stratus]

i dont have an extra forge

i miscalculated the amount for 12 heavy

[subtle finch]

hopefully my math is right, 6/min jade is no issue even with bills

[pulsar cypress]

U swap use the forge. Not using 2 forge.

[frozen blade]

Alternatively you can use filling and separating unit, but that's more power wasted.
It's easier to just put the Xircon Production and Heavy Xiranite in the same area.

[vapid granite]

What the fuck i dont not remember this thing making two carbon

[iron stratus]

im not doing all of that

[pine sail]

My brainnnnnnnnn

[subtle finch]

i cant believe eviaa didnt tell you that smh

[jovial breach]

do you have calcs for 12/min jgourd

[vapid granite]

Its always jsut one thing

ONE LITTLE THING that makes me have to restart because i could do better

[subtle finch]

why would you need 12 jades if you can clear with 6

[jovial breach]

morebills

[subtle finch]

[mystic glen]

don't worry, it is obsolete now

[worldly holly]

i thought its less bills than sc

[pulsar cypress]

24/m jades.. To empty the stockpile in wuling & v4 depot..

[pine sail]

I thought it works?

[jovial breach]

36

[pine sail]

Lmao

[mystic glen]

it does work, but some guy did arcane magic and has a tiny one

[jovial breach]

damn skipper lurking

[mystic glen]

woah

@pine sail

seems to be stable 12/m too

[pine sail]

ohhh

[jovial breach]

hmm i managed to keep 4.5/min sc with 12/min heavy xiranite, and also making 3/min hcv so i only be using 1.5/min sc for power, would like to see the math

oh nvm it's not sustainable, im running on stockpiled liquid

ok without that it's just 1.5/min sc

[subtle finch]

yeah, you're on xiranite deficit

[frozen blade]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-i-think-he-knows-taylor-swift-taylor-swift-i-think-he-knows-taylor-swift-lover-gif-6812370261749858198

[vast iron]

.knownt

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[mystic glen]

which means this should be stable 6/min or stable 1/5 split

untested to be clear, but should work

[ruby sorrel]

idk it's giving me 1x1xxx repeating, so 1/3 as expected

not consistent

[vast iron]

magic is real

[jovial breach]

black sorcery

[mystic glen]

arcane belts

[subtle finch]

i still cant get over the fact that you cant get over the fact that that 12/min outputs 12/min

[autumn maple]

Muh waifu cant be this toxic

[vast iron]

you wouldnt understand

[jovial breach]

what does that mean

[vast iron]

not my perspective

[mystic glen]

old way of doing it might still be nice sometimes tho, since this has to go 4 wide and that's not always an option

old one was 3x6 which is 18 total, vs new one 4x4 which is only 16. Tho not sure if old one is stable, probs not.

[ruby sorrel]

what's the old one you're referring to

[vast iron]

periodic/multiple loop based designs

any of them

[mystic glen]

something like this

[ruby sorrel]

this can't be against unloader either so that's +1 space

[vast iron]

it can

modified 1/5 ver can

the 2/5 needs a buffer but its only 3 wide

[mystic glen]

think you don't even need the splitter if you put it against depot unloader

[vast iron]

yep

[mystic glen]

so less protocol capacity

[jovial breach]

stop doing n/5 split guh

[mystic glen]

for the 6/min one I can see both designs have their uses, for the 12/min version new one is just straight better

[random estuary]

Me: hey, it's Jank but I think I got 6/min jade
You guys: this here is belt only 12/min,
You guys: this one idea uses less protocol capacity.
Me'. ...: I have much to learn because wtf

[vast iron]

never

[ruby sorrel]

idk it gives me 2/6 instead of 2/5 against unloader

[static isle]

running 3 of these until I burn through my heavy xira stash

[vast iron]

this one cant

thats the 2/5 not our 1/5 version

[mystic glen]

that's 12/min setup, that one can't be against unloader

[static isle]

should be a while

[mystic glen]

the 6/min one can

[vast iron]

black magic indeed

[static isle]

yall doing splitters for this?
I just let it clog

[vast iron]

feels like coding

[mystic glen]

sometimes clogging not an option

[vast iron]

being careless is a good thing, yk. stay that way

[sage nymph]

i wonder what the max is
i heard 78/min is possible if you focus entirely on the event

[mystic glen]

nah coding has all its rules well laid out usually, this is coding, but you are super deep into "behavior not defined" teritory and we are just finding weird bugs we can abuse for stuff they def were not intended for

[static isle]

for heavy gourd tho?
you can let it clog

for other stuff I get it

[vast iron]

yes but 1/5 splitter is super useful for technical stuff in my experience

[subtle finch]

you should join the FoTS team @mystic glen

[vast iron]

yess

[mystic glen]

fots what now?

[vast iron]

new member

[vast iron]

torture

#1495816858350125066

[jovial breach]

fots of the sky?

[ruby sorrel]

okay but what if you just do this

1/5? counting hard

[vast iron]

connected to wrong splitter

you need to add a new one?

what design even is that

[ruby sorrel]

testing shit for 1/5

copypaste it a bunch cus random splitter orders

[mystic glen]

this thread started like 15 days ago...

[jovial breach]

you guys have fun with n/5 split im just gonna watch

[nova osprey]

forge of the sky of the sky

[jovial breach]

[subtle finch]

they kinda gave up on it because of belt lag

[shadow void]

this is why i just want proper priority splitters with selectable outputs, overflow, etc. Theres a good bit of normal factory things this game needs

[vast iron]

belt lag?

[shadow void]

let me build a sushi belt

[mystic glen]

yeah, I kinda dread the devs one day doing an update and breaking all of this

[vast iron]

my hard work

[subtle finch]

it looks inentional to me, so i dont see them breaking it

prio convergers on the other hand...

[vast iron]

ye

me cooked

[shadow void]

as a filthy casual tho, i'll take what i can get, from the smarter ppl here

[ruby sorrel]

wait this does look like it'll do 1/5

I can't believe timing manip is real now

[uneven aspen]

depends if new region replaces xiranite tech or adds ontop. assuming valley stuff is the foundation.

[vast iron]

if you manage i might aswell quit my job

[jovial breach]

convergers are a fraud

[vast iron]

yall are replacing me

you dont need me

[distant sphinx]

Has anyone figured out if turning down battery production is worth for the new recipe?

[ruby sorrel]

look I delete and repasted it still 1/5 if I can count

[subtle finch]

[ruby sorrel]

idk if I can count though

[jovial breach]

we will miss u hecker

[nova osprey]

wait 1/5?

[ruby sorrel]

someone sanity check me

[shut hearth]

Wdym finding bugs is 70% of actual coding

[ruby sorrel]

gap of 4 is 1/5 right?

[nova osprey]

yeah

should be

[vast iron]

put a belt next to it and compare

[daring rapids]

guh

😭

[distant sphinx]

It really is aligning reality to expectations

[daring rapids]

no 12/min heavy xiranite

[vast iron]

just have a 30/min belt next to it to help count gaps

[ruby sorrel]

ya letting belt run rn

[jovial breach]

bruh ofc lol you cant have both 12/min heavy and 12/min sc

[shut hearth]

It is "hey claude" -> paste code and break shit -> "hey claude wtf is this doing" -> "you ran out of tokens" -> paypal sam altman 30k

[ruby sorrel]

seems about right

[nova osprey]

witch

[shadow void]

I just want to tell the splitter to spit out the right 100% of the time, if it backs up it goes straight. Is this hard to code?

[craggy oyster]

my math isnt mathing.
Assumming u start the event with 0 of everything
each hours outpost make 64k bills, jg sell for 120 bill so we need to produce
64,000 : 60 : 120= 8.(8) jg/mins.
So if we want to make another 14m after event we need to produce
14,000,000 : 7 : 24 : 60 : 120 = 11.57(407)/mins
So total we need to produce 20/mins wtffff

[mystic glen]

this needs to be against unloader right?

[shut hearth]

So both are 1/5?

[ruby sorrel]

I haven't checked yet

[vast iron]

thats it

i quit my job

im being replaced like ai replaces jobs

[daring rapids]

uhh what is that?

[vast iron]

what is this sorcery

[nova osprey]

yes you can't reach 0 to 14 mil without prestock

[vast iron]

next generation bullshit aic machinery

i cant anymore

[small creek]

booo 👎

[ruby sorrel]

it's the first 1/2 splitter getting forced to skip a side every time the 1/3 splitter puts stuff back

[vast iron]

@small creek end me please

its so over

its so over

[ruby sorrel]

so I don't think this relies on unloader

[small creek]

Hand me the sword

and kneel

[vast iron]

its so over

its so fucking over

genuinely

im useless

we are all useless

[shut hearth]

We doing seppuku?

[small creek]

What even happened

[vast iron]

the community is useless

[ruby sorrel]

or maybe it breaks without unloader cus it skips too many times idk

[subtle finch]

bro is having a meltdown

[ruby sorrel]

legit splitter timing bs now

[nova osprey]

lmaooo

[vast iron]

@ruby sorrel is our god

beg for mercy

[nova osprey]

hey if it helps a lot of innovation comes from happy little accidents

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's 1/3 away from loader

[vast iron]

kneel before their superior intellect

its over

[mystic glen]

yeah I feel like it would, since right now unloader is super low prio which it won't be mid belt, that's my guess

[vast iron]

aic is solved

@ruby sorrel has solved aic

[valid gazelle]

bro is having a moment..

[vast iron]

good job

[nova osprey]

indeed

[mystic glen]

can you put two splitters against the converger, to make them both higher prio than the one side without a splitter?

[ancient charm]

Does jade gourd start today?

I havent gotten on yet

[nova osprey]

exactly 7 hours for na/eu

[subtle finch]

@upper fiber really be dropping that 12/min casually like it's common knowledge

[valid gazelle]

anyway look what i did ~ :D you guys proud of me ?

[vast iron]

its so over

its so over

[valid gazelle]

[vast iron]

its so over

[ancient charm]

Rip na lmao I'm in asia

[vapid dock]

how much certs is needed for phase 2

[nova osprey]

it's out

[regal horizon]

lmao NA typical L

[vast iron]

i think i am going to melt

[jovial breach]

check pins

[nova osprey]

[static isle]

should be a while yes?

[regal horizon]

superior timezone strikes again

[vast iron]

@small creek is this heaven

[nova osprey]

i mean even if you fully deplete it's not like it's going to kill your factory

[trim galleon]

is it better to change all the yazhen to Hetonite or no

[vapid dock]

aight ill be done in about 3 days then with my stockpile

[nova osprey]

heto better efficiency iirc

[shut hearth]

Is this what everyone is going crazy about?

[nova osprey]

6/min and 12/min

[vast iron]

you do not see the vision

[shut hearth]

You intentionally clog at a specific rate

[ruby sorrel]

how do you even calc the 1/2 skipping a side every n rounds

[subtle finch]

my packaging unit can do 6/min

[jovial breach]

like 60k jgourd for phase 2 shop?

[ruby sorrel]

this is hilarious

[vast iron]

shush

[ancient charm]

Wots the recipe for jade gourd rn?

[shut hearth]

Convergers also round robin iirc

[vast iron]

probably a delay instead making it a pseudo 2/3 splitter

[jovial breach]

yeah about 3 days and a half to clear 2nd shop if you make 12/min jgourd

[shadow void]

Your packager can only do 6/m? Mine does 66/m

[nova osprey]

1 hxira + 1 heto + 5 yazhen fluid for 1 gourd

[ancient charm]

Woah yazhen fluid?

[nova osprey]

yeah

[sonic summit]

barely enough electricity after making 12/min jade

[valid gazelle]

whoa.. what kind of packager is this ? packager 3000 ?

[subtle finch]

honestly, i would still ask for further testing how long can those last
belt delay can still break it i think

[vast iron]

which means that all of these converger shits are directional

[shadow void]

I told it to Execute Order 66

[valid gazelle]

[outer niche]

same bruh 😄

[mystic glen]

after letting the 12/m one run for 56 minutes I seem to have a 2s delay compared to the first minute.

[jovial breach]

holy

[vast iron]

its very possible that these designs have been tested but they failed because whoever tested them built them the opposite way, mirrored

in fact

i think ive seen THAT 1/5 being used as a 1/6 somewhere

[subtle finch]

[jovial breach]

how long is man gonna last

[vast iron]

oh no

[ruby sorrel]

fk I'm going to go to main aic so I have more depot space to run like 10 lines of these

[ancient charm]

Do we just stop producing regular gourds?

[mystic glen]

I was pretty sure that first minute was spot on when I looked at my stop watch, but now it's like 2s later that it's spot on

[nova osprey]

until a 18/min splitter comes out, then he'll go even crazier

[vast iron]

its already over

i am dead

[jovial breach]

yup

[outer niche]

no

[small creek]

Hope it isnt

my work aint done

[mystic glen]

best for someone else to double check tho, I didn't take this test too serious

[nova osprey]

you can do 2/min with remaining 30/min xira

[mystic glen]

and it's late for me, so don't trust me too much

[vast iron]

so this is hell
maybe i havent been a good person

[shadow void]

why would you keep making. . .why would you even make regular Gourds?

[vast iron]

[nova osprey]

idk

[true furnace]

Is 100% uptime for a single jade gourd production line possible?

[vast iron]

my brain is fried

[subtle finch]

oops i pinged the wrong guy

[vapid dock]

[nova osprey]

yeah

[vast iron]

i think i need a break

see yall tmrw or smt

[true furnace]

Awesome

[shadow void]

If you plan on making 6/m Jade Gourds, there was no reason to make Xiranite Gourds beyond the event requireing you to make some

[nova osprey]

do more, do the 204/min setup

[vast iron]

send all the limiter designs in #1495816858350125066 please

[mystic glen]

guess I'll let it run for another hour or so, if the delay is really there it should have build up to like 4s I guess

[vapid dock]

hellna

[subtle finch]

@final sierra is our resident limiter tester 😭

[old widget]

looking at only gaining certs, are jade gourds better than regular gourds in terms of efficiency?

[nova osprey]

like 2.3x more efficient

[daring rapids]

what is this soccery?

😭

I need to know what I can use them for

[ruby sorrel]

it's so funny that this works

[daring rapids]

are those rate limiters?

[shadow void]

balancing production in different ways

[vast iron]

~~i bet yall will never make a constant 1 in 204 limiter ~~

[winged oriole]

Ok no doubt everything will fit up here, no need to check

[vital narwhal]

yo this new 1/5 splitter tech is so beautiful

[vast iron]

the only thing i can hold onto now is the 1 in 7 splitter

[vast iron]

isnt it?

dark magic and bullshit is holding it up

[subtle finch]

bro reacts like it's discovering a new element

[vast iron]

basically is

[outer niche]

“A wise man once said: use your power wisely—never waste it.”

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but timing based means you can't scale it up to 3/5 or 4/5

[vast iron]

merge 3 or 4 designs

[ruby sorrel]

lmao

[vast iron]

you think too small

puny minded

[valid gazelle]

[ruby sorrel]

look at this 6/5 split

[vital narwhal]

I don't think anyone pointed this out for you, but for the water plants (yazhen, jincao), the refining unit recipe outputs two carbon every two seconds instead of one, meaning you can get two full belts out one unit

[vast iron]

btw, try flipping the side the converger is on and see it explode royally

[zealous gust]

what is the max/optimal production rate and products for event part 2?

[subtle finch]

.knownt

[vast iron]

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[nova osprey]

12/min gourd, 1.5scw, 4.5/min hcv

you're probably not asking for that though

[subtle finch]

if you cleared phase 1 shop, and not in a rush, this is the most optimal one, 7 days to clear phase 2

[nova osprey]

just 6/min is good for most

[ruby sorrel]

idk it seems to work on the other side too

[vast iron]

wat

[shadow void]

6/m gets you 99% of the event shop

[vast iron]

how tf has no one figured this out on accident

[shadow void]

thats optimal in my book

[vast iron]

its so simple

[ruby sorrel]

everyone building massive contraptions based on nonjamming loopbacks

[vapid granite]

Please to repeat

[undone current]

normal gourd or jade gourd lol

[vapid granite]

You mean like this

[nova osprey]

jade oops xD

i keep forgetting jade exists

i didn't make any

[subtle finch]

my 12/min is still technically smaller smh

[nova osprey]

regular ones*

[vapid granite]

Yes this is what i meant about "ONE LITTLE THING" that makes me have to restart

and thus i did and fixed it

[mystic glen]

I mean, this litterally is a case of "hear that jamming sound every few seconds, that's how you know it's working"

[shadow void]

max 12/m sustained i've seen 100+/m burst, Optimal is like 6.2/m but 6/m is fine to get most everything.

[nova osprey]

jade gourds btw, not regular gourds

[ruby sorrel]

oh I repasted and 2 of the opposite side ones broke down to 1/4

[subtle finch]

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I need to repaste this some more

[dull shard]

markerstone gets revealed next week?

[ruby sorrel]

....they're working agian

idfk guys

maybe it breaks if it clogs at some point

[vital narwhal]

uh oh unstable?

[nova osprey]

unstable on placing down at least atm

[ruby sorrel]

I was kinda slow with output belts last time

[subtle finch]

i told you belt lag is still a thing

[signal reef]

the test area event happens like a day after this current AIC event ends

[ruby sorrel]

nah I just let it clog before outputting

[dull shard]

oh cool okay.

[ruby sorrel]

which is no good

[vital narwhal]

including clog prevention can be designed around

[dull shard]

that's the bit with +4 forges yeah?

[nova osprey]

markerstone is in game rn though

[vital narwhal]

also need to check offline behavior too tho

[nova osprey]

i think you mean test area

[dull shard]

yeah test area myb

[ruby sorrel]

working again after repasting

time to see if the pattern holds offline

[subtle finch]

can you do the 12/min too?

[sonic summit]

is this the game way of saying i shouldnt add more than 12/min jade gourds?
wana add more but i dont want to burn more batteries

[cedar bolt]

Almost empty

[untold matrix]

the heavy gourd doesnt seems to worth it ?

[nova osprey]

it's literally 2.3x more efficient

than regular gourds

[random estuary]

Woah higher tier item is better efficiency?? I didn't believe it

[craggy oyster]

60% of the shop is the T-credit lol

[shadow void]

compared to regular gourds?

[cedar bolt]

Medal

[valid gazelle]

all of that for just 230k tcreds

not even enough to lv 80 > 90 an operator

[shadow void]

1.64/m Jade Gourds are required to get the Trim Medal

[sonic summit]

how much 1 jade gourd use btw in term of heavy xira and heto ?

[nova osprey]

they did my infinite tcreds dirty

[shadow void]

1 to 1

[cedar bolt]

1 :1

[valid gazelle]

hell nah after dossoles they axed infinite grind even when the infinite grind is more way more taxing

[craggy oyster]

let me cal bills price real quick to compare

[shadow void]

76k gourds required to buy shop, 6/m is 73k

[nova osprey]

[vapid granite]

Hmm so we are allowed to produce 8 xirinite at once

2 go into xircon which makes batteries so now its 6

2 more go into heavy xirinite so that makes 4

2 more then goes to... liquid xircon effluent? Though I believe we could purify inert xircon effluent to save us this- so thats either 2 xirinite left or still 4

What do i do with these left overs @nova osprey

[valid gazelle]

give me my balls machine back

[shadow void]

that 3k will go into the 100x 500 10,000cert sink which is pointless

[sonic summit]

huh isnt its 2 heavy to 1 heto ? 1 for part and 1 for bottle?

[shadow void]

the part and bottles produce 2 at a time

[nova osprey]

1 hxira = 2 parts or 2 bottles

[valid gazelle]

and it takes 20s

[shadow void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1500946412211535972/image.png?ex=69fa48c6&is=69f8f746&hm=9b8afcabe8ce419100246d7effeb7d973a48a76559396fdb54cb84f409b27d68&

can someone explain this to me

[nova osprey]

[shadow void]

powers fine, nothing changed nothing moved, i just saw a dip in Hetonite parts and Hetonite for some reason

[nova osprey]

uhh hi one sec

[small creek]

yea we jus in the foreplay phase rn

[wispy grove]

[rare moon]

Sewage issue affecting cuprium

[small creek]

ew 6/min reg gourd

[shadow void]

yuck

[subtle finch]

😳

[vast iron]

hi im back

[small creek]

Omfg i forgot to trade my jades

[vast iron]

hows it going

[small creek]

Bro

[nova osprey]

you could make 12/min scw instead of just 6, did you want more event currency?

[pulsar willow]

Check cuprium

[cedar bolt]

Im screwed not saving heto

[vapid granite]

not really im only here for the orobeyls and ill revert it back

[vast iron]

[wispy grove]

who tf is that tdude

[vast iron]

the other dude

[subtle finch]

meanwhile the casuals:
>>"what is this for?"

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/rdj-robert-downey-jr-kirk-lazarus-tropic-thunder-meme-gif-16185481

[shadow void]

this was at 1:45 pm i could calculate it, but i'm pretty sure Cups been around 20k for awhile

[small creek]

[shadow void]

Me, "Challenge accepted"

[nova osprey]

you can just use the standard scw + hxira setup, then put all hxira into jade gourds

12/min scw and 6/min hxira works

[subtle finch]

what's the best turret combo again for alluvium?

[shadow void]

yeah Cup is 23k stable, a random dip in Heto is just odd

[small creek]

Glad you asked

[pulsar willow]

Since when is Hikarin a Hikiran

[fathom glade]

how many fots are available in the new update?

[wispy grove]

i think the recipe is going to be permanent

[pulsar willow]

What did I miss

[valid gazelle]

14 artilleries and 1 acid

[small creek]

Its mostly mortars + 1 acid

[vital narwhal]

Forge Assignment
1 -> This is the Forge making Heavy Xiranite
4 -> Produce 60/min Xircon (two belts). Byproduct 4u/2sec Inert purified into 1u/2sec Effluent for HXira Forge
2 -> Direct Feed into HXira Forge
1 -> Surplus, stockpile Xiranite, can occasionally switch this one to more Heavy Xiranite when have lots of Xiranite stockpiled

[shadow void]

I throw in a Laser tower or 2 for kicks

the Mortars are overkill anyway

[small creek]

Sometimes you put some flamethrower or hyperbeam in the mix

[shut hearth]

hakiran when

[sonic summit]

hmm so 1: 1 if you think of market value its 27 for xira + (48/5=9,6 for a heto) from heto parts so it cost you 36,6 material to get 120 wuling cash if you ignore the electric cost,but even then jade/ heavy gourd is still more worth it tbh

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message context

[small creek]

Pure mortar + acid is slower than mixing it with beam/flame actually

[wispy grove]

my factory

[vapid granite]

Hmm, you're right

12 batteries it is

[vapid granite]

12 batteries it is

[sonic summit]

you can use half of it to make 6/min hc valley

[shut hearth]

wait is the beam faster than 8s?

[subtle finch]

i wish leander was here

[shadow void]

I imagine its just to down the boss at the end

[candid wadi]

any idea if producing excess jade worth it ?

[valid gazelle]

instantly removed from existence

[shadow void]

Just wish the beam was flashier

[vital narwhal]

idk if you want to figure the specifics out on your own so I spoiler, but this is a useful production diagram by harunachan

[small creek]

sry its just us chickens here

[shadow void]

I want a Mega Beam Cannon plz

[small creek]

Pure beam sucks, pure mortar sucks
Mixing them has good results

[subtle finch]

aside from speed of clearing the shop, nope. it's just unusable excess certs for bragging purposes

[small creek]

Flamethrower also good in wuling

[shut hearth]

but why even choose beam when it has no aoe?

[shadow void]

Mortars have projectile delay, beams are instant

[small creek]

Higher dmg in ST

Which occurs quite a bit in some alluviums

[valid gazelle]

simply because of mis-timing in mob spawn

mobs dont spawn all at once

[signal reef]

would be nice if we get to keep those for after the event to turn it in

[valid gazelle]

so when the mortars have already landed.. they spawn 2 puny mobs

[candid wadi]

yeah the certs i wonder if they are going to be useful for future aic events like these.

[subtle finch]

okay let me rephrase the question
"what is the fastest turret combo to clear most alluvium without caging?"

[shut hearth]

but the problem is that everything dies at the same time anyway and the timings are still the same 8s cooldown

[sonic summit]

i just use hikarin priority pass to clog 1 expanded crucible to only make 6/ min effluent

[valid gazelle]

mortar takes time to land

[small creek]

v4: Mortar hyperbeam 1 acid
wuling: mortar flame 1 acid

[shut hearth]

AHH u are right

[shadow void]

beams are hitscan

[vapid granite]

is there a darkmode version

[valid gazelle]

and the beam can desync the mortars a bit so shots are more consistent

[shut hearth]

i'll try it out later when i recover sanity

[small creek]

Mortar often cant oneshot mini boss on spawn

Mortar + beam does

checkmate

Source: exact scenario occurs in scipark and origin lodespring

[shut hearth]

counterpoint: 18 mortars kills everything that moves, including my eardrums

[valid gazelle]

if only the beam tower has better sound..

[small creek]

Kills slower

[cobalt oriole]

Still tryna figure out a stable setup for rn

[valid gazelle]

i love the sound of artillery

[small creek]

18 lv1 turret also kill everything

[mystic glen]

I like an extra acid tbh, just in case targeting decides to fire my one acid shot at a mob that spawned away from most others

[small creek]

So whats the point

[shut hearth]

i love the smell of napalm in the morning

[small creek]

Acid def reduction drastically increases clear speed

[shut hearth]

mortars are badass

[small creek]

I removed it and my clear was a whole 10 sec longer

[valid gazelle]

^^^

[small creek]

If youre gonna keep moving goalposts then im done

You werent even the original asker

[valid gazelle]

the acid def shred is huge

if only it was aoe

[small creek]

I dont like having my days of experiment thrown away like this

[mystic glen]

acid tower's dps itself isn't half bad either, like it's higher than the old sentry tower and it has aoe

[brittle sedge]

acid is aoe, though its small

[small creek]

Acid has same aoe as marsh, its alr

[shut hearth]

i run 2 acid + rest are mortars, have only found 3 guys' mortars shared to my overworld

[valid gazelle]

imagine if the acid turret shoots like a poison turret

[cobalt oriole]

If the conversion is exact, we might get 10,880,000 bills from 2 x 68k gourds

[shut hearth]

isn't the acid 20% def reduction tho?

[small creek]

Not sure abt the exact number

[shut hearth]

or was it 22

[valid gazelle]

that adds 3000 dmg to each of the mortars

[small creek]

Might need to mine for that

[ancient charm]

is this the way?

[wispy grove]

15k reserve eh

[mystic glen]

probs depends on how you calculate, but iirc acid makes your other shit do 20% more damage compared to base

[small creek]

Its alr

[valid gazelle]

which is huge ~

[shadow void]

It'll get you all the way

[valid gazelle]

bigger number

[small creek]

13.25 scw wouldve been nice but this is serviceable

[craggy oyster]

actually we can still make more heto and batterry to sell to reduce the bill cost tho. we dont need to produce that much jg

[small creek]

Honestly 12/min jade gourd can solo the bill prod for this entire week

[cobalt oriole]

Nah cos this 10.88mil is likely going to be independent of outpost is the thing

So it’s basically free 10.88 mil of income

[small creek]

Imagine

[nova osprey]

im coping

[tough berry]

rolls i cant sell gourd anymore

lel

[cobalt oriole]

Trust HG to reward the factory maniacs

[small creek]

I cant even sell gourd anymore cus

[tough berry]

all the 3days saving got drained by the gourds

[nova osprey]

they better

[small creek]

My SCW is abt to be full

[nova osprey]

that's the reason why they added factory in game in the first place

[tough berry]

just wish

[small creek]

rich problems be like

[tough berry]

the cash gets converted by 100 point = 1 lmd

if events end

[small creek]

Honestly i wouldnt mind any conversion

I will take anything

[tough berry]

true

[nova osprey]

same

[tough berry]

i gonna run my 96

[worldly pivot]

what site do you use for this?

[tough berry]

for 1 whole day

lel

[small creek]

I have to come back in 3 hrs ffs

[tough berry]

just transfer extra groud to valley

[small creek]

Js to trade gourd

[wispy grove]

https://enkad.enka.network/

[barren sparrow]

absolute battery worth

[shadow void]

there was never going to be an inf conversion to credits

[worldly pivot]

Thanks!

[small creek]

Might die offline

[wispy grove]

ur welcome

[small creek]

leave 10 as buffer

[tough berry]

wonder why

[barren sparrow]

i have spare batt

[tough berry]

they hate giving us credit

[barren sparrow]

i have wuling yet again

[green sleet]

Ahhhhh. Phase 2 is taunting meeeee. Hurry up and start for na people 😭😭😭

[worldly pivot]

whats the ideal jade gourd production without heavy xira stockpile?

[valid gazelle]

imagine living in the past

[tough berry]

6

[nova osprey]

6

[tough berry]

marach

[trim galleon]

6/min if you don’t want to eat into sc batteries

[green sleet]

It sucks lmao

[craggy oyster]

oh ye i got confused at 2x68k

[wheat forum]

Counting down time to sweep the shop in 3 days 4 hours and 25 minutes

[green sleet]

The gas is .10 cheaper tho, so ill take that as consolation

[worldly pivot]

Thanks! And is there any good use for the extra 30 xiranite?

[tough berry]

exiiiaaaa why you dint popup for freaking so long i got lv 6 shop since round 9 and till 13 you wont show up

[nova osprey]

gourd ig

[wheat forum]

Make a 2/min Xiranite Gourd

[winged oriole]

NA stage 2 waiting room

[tough berry]

why 2min?

[nova osprey]

what else are you going to do with 30/min xira

[tough berry]

1.25 ? bat?

[nova osprey]

you could

[green sleet]

This timezone is a prison

[craggy oyster]

bottle it

[nova osprey]

but that usually requires reformatting entire factory

[valid gazelle]

wdym we have slightly or barely noticeably lower gas price here

[nova osprey]

if no space

[valid gazelle]

[shadow void]

turn it into Xircon Effluent for sure

[nova osprey]

most casuals aren't gonna do that lol

[shadow void]

dont go straight to Hvy or Liquid. I'd hold it

[craggy oyster]

that just another way to bottle it

[uneven aspen]

this is why i go for modular designs 👍

[worldly pivot]

is 12/m battery + 6/m jade enough to exchange all bills?

[uneven aspen]

just deleted 2 sc wuling batteries lines

[nova osprey]

stock bills or event shop

[worldly pivot]

stock bills

[nova osprey]

yeah

[vital narwhal]

I'm too lazy to manually change it properly, so here's color inverted version lmao

[nova osprey]

one of the best efficiencies

[vapid granite]

omg you actually made a dark version

you're like #2 place behidn evia now

[valid gazelle]

#2 place for what

[nova osprey]

loll

[green sleet]

Those colors be pleasing to the eyes

[nova osprey]

their helper tier list

[tough berry]

anyone else doing 96

[valid gazelle]

aaah

[tough berry]

gourd farming?

[valid gazelle]

gj

[shadow void]

Order 66 for me

[tough berry]

no more space left az?

[shadow void]

hit facility limit

[subtle finch]

fun fact, turrets consuming batteries register in your aic report

[tough berry]

ahh

[green sleet]

They do? Huh..

[shadow void]

i could fit another 18/m in, but limit

[worldly pivot]

is this for 12/m batteries and 6/m heavy?

[valid gazelle]

they are still under aic control so..

[tough berry]

rip

[green sleet]

Oh. Youre still Hikiran, lol

[tough berry]

good thing my main aic m3ver hits limit

[shadow void]

or i could make my noddle shop better, but its pointless at this point in time

[solid quiver]

6/min heavy Xiranite to 6/min jade gourd is correct right

[nova osprey]

yeah

[shadow void]

probably would be a good idea to put hetonite where it belongs. . . in Marker Stone

but i had to build the pipeline with a manifold

[tough berry]

ya my heto teto at market same with my powder + feroum + heavy rn

since my main full of gourd factory

only able to fit 8

wait 16

[ancient charm]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[small creek]

Fuck my chud life im gonna cap on scw AND heto parts

me when i hoard too much

[shadow void]

Kind of not the right place to ask it, but should i just go ahead and use my crowns on Fangyi?

[tough berry]

im cap on those stuff now its draining slowly

[vital narwhal]

Fangyi is pretty good crown candidate

[small creek]

Neither are draining because of these fkn jade gourds

[tough berry]

just use your crown

az crown given to much

[small creek]

Crown bs at least

[subtle finch]

welp, got it too

[small creek]

wtf 143 crown

[tough berry]

its not like genshin where crown is rare

[shadow void]

i've not spent a single one

[tough berry]

welcome hikarin

i got it to early lel

[shadow void]

just didnt wanna spend it poorly

[tough berry]

but they over give crown though

[uneven aspen]

same.

[tough berry]

like i got 60 crown more

while i got alot of m3 unit

[uneven aspen]

just wait for actual endgame content like CC before deciding to spend them tbh

[shadow void]

Fangyi just seems like the best candidate for it

[uneven aspen]

everything rn don't need masteries

[shadow void]

True

[tough berry]

???

[vital narwhal]

yea fangyi probably most crown value, just hold off on normal atk crown probably

[ancient charm]

umbral monument is opening soon?

[tough berry]

xaihi need m3 angelina need m1 eyja need m3 akekuri need m3 ???

[worldly pivot]

i still got 143 crowns and i maxed out almost all for Endmin, Fangyi, Tangtang and Yvonne.

[craggy oyster]

Guy im thinking not to trade for this one. that's 33k jade gourd for 50k credit. Instead hoard 33k that 33k for 14m bill after event.

[nova osprey]

how much hxira are you making

[brittle sedge]

hit 5m
im hoarding

[shadow void]

all my 6* are 90 max besides crowns, and Embers only 80 atm, saving some ops to get the level daily

[marble yarrow]

fr

[subtle finch]

14m bill is still a low chance happening

[sage nymph]

what?

[small creek]

Eh id still trade

Tcreds > bills

[uneven aspen]

so event currency gonan convert into nothing?

[small creek]

One takes sanity, other doesnt

[sage nymph]

oh its wuling bills

[hidden hornet]

What’s a good farming setup for alluvium and/or is this good enough

[tough berry]

how much bill is 140k worth of new gourd ?

[valid gazelle]

so you reject sanity-free tcreds ?

not stonks

[nova osprey]

like 16 mil?

[small creek]

Can be much better

[subtle finch]

yeah, why did they even say convert to certs, when you can't spend it on anything

[small creek]

Try 6 flamethrower, 1 acid, then rest mortars

[uneven aspen]

use it and put on a timer.

[small creek]

Should clear in 50 sec

[shadow void]

yeah didnt make sense

[small creek]

I just know this will be at least 1m20s lol

[tough berry]

maybe they do suprise pika shock of giving lmd when events over

[uneven aspen]

1 acid + rest motars takes 50-60 seconds for me

[craggy oyster]

i have bascially 500k ish xiranite and 300k ish eff in bottles. more than enough for everything

[tough berry]

on extra points you got

how you saved 500k

[valid gazelle]

is it to keep us in the progression farms ?

[tough berry]

???

[valid gazelle]

like 230k tcreds cant do much

[small creek]

Isnt that a whole s9 to m3

[solid quiver]

put mortar all the way

[craggy oyster]

yeah that true

[small creek]

Slower than mixing w flamethrower

[shadow void]

i just go main mortar, couple beams and an acid

[valid gazelle]

ye but the leveling

[small creek]

Err

Levelings kinda fkd

[vital narwhal]

wait as naeu player I can horde hxira and heto until last day and see what's going on with auto-convert, and then if it's stonks I can tear down whole base to do burst jade gourd production

[tough berry]

why not fully mortal + 1 acid?

[small creek]

Slower

Nothing to cover mortar downtime

[tough berry]

but 0 setup needed

and you just be farming 2 times daily anyway

[shadow void]

HOLY, you just solved everything with that

[small creek]

Flame is so easy to setup

[shadow void]

i'll make what i need to wipe shop, and then wait for that news

[small creek]

Then just stand outside

[tough berry]

you be using walls though?

[small creek]

No

Just stand real far

[shadow void]

Guess the Asia players just beta testing the phase 2 end

[tough berry]

ahh thats hassle if you need to run away lel

than just afk at portal

wait mortal kill it

[craggy oyster]

for ppl who forgot to trade basically . let say they cap 68k that's 8m bill and if it cap 14m then atleast they have some extra cert to trade more

[vital narwhal]

og ak foresight but on timescale of 1 day lmao

[shadow void]

is the time diff 24hours?

[valid gazelle]

not that much...

[shadow void]

or 12?

[tough berry]

12hrs

[pulsar willow]

12

[tough berry]

chin teach me

[shadow void]

hmm my 66/m can only burn 47520 in 12 hours

[pulsar willow]

Or is it 13?

[tough berry]

how to save 500k xianite

[valid gazelle]

damn Na is already half a day in the past you want them to be yesterday land too ?

[nova osprey]

13 hours

not 12 hours

[shadow void]

If it provides a benefit sure

[pulsar willow]

Yeah 13, I remember telling that I will have to wait 12.5 hours to join on the fun

[sage nymph]

Sacrifice Zhuang fangyi

[pulsar willow]

[vital narwhal]

maybe my 24/min jade gourd design will unexpectedly see actual use lmao

[tough berry]

i sacrifice zhuang to summon dusk who so lazy to appear after leaving her painting

if you gonna rush last day you need more than 24 lel

[vital narwhal]

ik, I just mean the design I will place down multiple of

[shadow void]

someone build a 96/m Jade Gourd factory that fits ina sub PAC

[nova pilot]

Say that again

[tough berry]

even 96 can only make 138k for 1 day

how az?

[vital narwhal]

will place a bunch of these

[craggy oyster]

me? teach u what?

[tough berry]

500k xianite

[barren sparrow]

money

[nova osprey]

i mean xiranite is 6x hxira so if people can get 150k hxira, 500k xira definitely doable, problem is storage

im guessing they mean bottled included

[tough berry]

i mean max you can store was 146k then where i can put rest of 354k

[vital narwhal]

stashes

[solid quiver]

all over the world

[tough berry]

so 0 factory all stashes?

[solid quiver]

stash until max protocol limit

[tough berry]

since 1 stash only 300

[nova osprey]

i hope we get upgraded stashes

[solid quiver]

protocol stash consume 2 protocol

[vital narwhal]

bottled xira is still useful but only for certain things. you can use it to feed into xircon production, but you can't make hxira with it since lacking way to convert back into item form

[solid quiver]

you can use 20~ protocol stash outside sub AIC

[craggy oyster]

Bottles it and cap both V4 and wuling storage. when u need to use, pour it out and feed liquid xir to ur battery. all ur xir will be free to use until u u running out of liquid xir. then hoarding it again

[nova osprey]

yeah it was the bottles

[tough berry]

uhh then thats not xianite lol thats liquid

[craggy oyster]

no that xir in bottles 🤣🤣🤣