aic-factory

[tame sedge]

aaah

[orchid pilot]

just add 1.4m to that^

so that's the discrepancy between mine and Harunachan's graph

I was wondering how Harunachan got 143k

because my end target is 117k

but if we add in another stack of outpost 1 cap and outpost 2 cap, it's 144k on my end

so I suspect that's what Harunachan did for calc

wait a minute, something doesn't match between ours

I suspect mistake on my end because theirs usually unimpeachable

[marble yarrow]

hmm maybe because i dropped 12sc?

[orchid pilot]

mine says 173k needed pre-stocked, theirs only 113k

ohh

ok that would do it

[marble yarrow]

WE ALL IN BRUHHHH 🥀 🥀

[orchid pilot]

lmao

[bright zodiac]

by the end of the event, what will happened if we have surplus/excess jade gourd and we already spent all fruits in exchange and our stock bill outpost is near 0 ???

[upper fiber]

all converted to fruit

[orchid pilot]

In reality, we suspect you only get certs

[bright zodiac]

it means, wastedddddd?

[orchid pilot]

yup

[bright zodiac]

why do i hoard this 110k heavyx

[upper fiber]

dunno, if exchange has tcred sinkhole then can exchange for it

[orchid pilot]

📈

[subtle finch]

@marble yarrow behold
auto 12-18/min heavy production (if you move the forge)

[marble yarrow]

i suspect the auto convert doesnt account for outpost bills, and will just auto convert regardless of that, but idk the actual bills we receive

[upper fiber]

how many xira to sustain that

[subtle finch]

yes

[upper fiber]

-120/min.... 1hr 7200 1day 168k

[shadow void]

So its 120/30, and at event end it autosells. Any sold that can't earn stockbills will give more certs. Do we know that conversion of Stockbills>certs is

[unreal crater]

it's not the xiranite but the cuprium you need to worry about

[tame sedge]

okay ph2 length of 204hr correction was messing me up. But man, at high level, might as well switch to heavy asap if you want to gamble

time to stash

[bright zodiac]

true, i only read in game evemt description once and i dont quite certain what it means hhahaha

but yea, i guess gonna drain all the heavyX

[orchid pilot]

yupyup, correct takeaway

in any case we get 1 week to build heavy back up at 7/1 and 6/2 rates
then 2 weeks at 9/3 or whatever the allocation ends up being with the sewage wall effluent

[cosmic wigeon]

is there any way to actively destroy an item or do i have to actually craft it into something because i have too much cuprium stuff to get sewage anymore

[marble yarrow]

the wording says "if it reach the limit" but it doesnt say "outpost bill"

it doesnt have to be outpost related since its a mail given, i suspect the limit is 14M

max gamble lets go

[winged oriole]

items in the depot can be destroyed iirc

[shadow void]

Think Hikarin posted a pic that said the japanes translation made it clear it was outpost bills

[upper fiber]

0

[cosmic wigeon]

what im wondering is how tho

[marble yarrow]

where

[shadow void]

#aic-factory message

[orchid pilot]

just noting their cn (which I imagine is gryph's original language) is "exchangeable" limit
其中，超出可兑换调度券上限部分将自动兑换为【援助成果券】

key phrase missing from the en being 可兑换

[orchid pilot]

my rough translation:
among them [referring to auto-converted lump sum in previous sentence], the amount exceeding the exchangeable stock bill limit will be auto-converted to [certs]

[upper fiber]

it is 0 if you don't have stock bills to trade, only get the 10 fruit for gourd

[shadow void]

we'll know for sure when P2 starts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe

[marble yarrow]

"exchangeable stock bill limit"

[orchid pilot]

oh actually cht should be native language, let me see if it's any diff

[marble yarrow]

that aint outpost bill

[tame sedge]

At 7/1 I hit heavy cap. Any reason to keep with 6/2 other than ease of not going back to 7/1?

[craggy oyster]

so this is the smallest with planters?

[marble yarrow]

exchangeable stock bill limit is the 14M

[cosmic wigeon]

a bit annoying i gotta manually do that every time i max out, but that actually does help a lot thanks

[orchid pilot]

with that message, I was referring to "what do we do now that we've torched our entire heavy xira in phase 2" lol

in terms of 1.3 prep

[bright zodiac]

so it means, overproducing jade gourd by the end of the event, still benefit?

[orchid pilot]

I think most of us expect no benefit. harunachan expects benefit

it's interpretation of unclear language

up to you

[upper fiber]

if fruit can be traded for tcred, yeah

[bright zodiac]

gambleeeee

lulz

[upper fiber]

otherwise no

[swift steppe]

If you really want something to do, it isn't completely wasted.

idk exactly how it'll work though

[marble yarrow]

we arent half of the patch yet so +4 forge would definitely get us back up to 1.3

[orchid pilot]

yup, 1 week of 1.2.1 and 2 weeks of 1.2.2

[upper fiber]

what would we get on next half though, 4 forge only or HC bat recipe as well

[bright zodiac]

hopefully not HC in the middle of aic event

[subtle finch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1t1jbtd/from_what_i_understand_you_can_cheat_out_some/
even reddit is confused

[orchid pilot]

just verified, trad cn identical text to what I transcribed previously

[upper fiber]

uh, event already over when next half up

[orchid pilot]

feel free to throw the text from earlier into whatever translator

but I interpret "exchangeable" as the outpost bills amount

[bright zodiac]

great, got it

[marble yarrow]

this is what my "stock bill limit" is

[orchid pilot]

I would think 4 forge only, HC batt 1.3

[subtle finch]

my manga translator can translate it

[bright zodiac]

can we just phone HG staff or smthg? LMAO

[orchid pilot]

lmao someone literally wondered last time we did this loop-de-loop whether they'd answer if we put in a support ticket

[bright zodiac]

will be converted to (AID stage

it translate into chronic disease

[subtle finch]

that is AID(s) 😭

[bright zodiac]

[marble yarrow]

ayo?

[orchid pilot]

lit. Region stock bill having upper limit increase

it's phrased differently from the event one

which is missing the "having"

[marble yarrow]

yeah lets just make it 2 religions

[orchid pilot]

possessing

[shadow void]

You have a manga translator?

[marble yarrow]

i'll stand with 14m

(coz im greedy)

[orchid pilot]

[bright zodiac]

i also think we will have smthg to exchange with the excess fruit certs

[shadow void]

whats the conversion rate after no more stockbills can be gained?

bills > certs

[orchid pilot]

supposedly (I didn't bother to look into it beyond chatter here), there was originally infinite conversion to t-creds datamined, then later, poofed

again, I don't have source on that

maybe someone here does

[bright zodiac]

the poof part is concerning

kekkkk

[subtle finch]

reddit seem to know too

[bright zodiac]

but its kinda common in many game, to have

limited exchange (best value)
and
unlimited exchange (lower value but unlim)

in their event

it makes the excess, usable somrhow

[orchid pilot]

true, but I think a worse scenario is plausible given how casual-oriented the akef events have been so far

in any case, my thinking is to expect the worst (for us) case

and be pleasantly surprised if better

[shadow void]

Guess in this case tho most of us here are planning for the best case.

[valid gazelle]

it's kinda irrelevant but .. AK used to have an unlimited exchange event and.. it never came back (Obsidian)

[craggy oyster]

behold, a 14x20 6/mins j.gourd

if it correct it smallest now winning by 5 squares ahahaha

[bright zodiac]

i still assume the event will only need around 40K+ heavyX to clear limited exchange (hetonite is faster to get so its fine)

so more casual aic player will not stress themselves too much

[shadow void]

Ferrium Gourds lol

[craggy oyster]

yeye change to h.xir and it will turn correct ahaha, i hate enkad

[bright zodiac]

if only enkad doesnt differ "X" and "Shift" button, it makes a bad habits in game or in enkad

[craggy oyster]

@subtle finch check this out

[shadow void]

anyone here sitting on 14m Wuling Stockbills?

[craggy oyster]

yes sir

[bright zodiac]

i have 15-18M worth of wuling stockade

[shadow void]

If you try and sell gourds when the outpost still has plenty of bills, but you have 14m will the selling of gourds give you Stockbills*.

[valid gazelle]

ýe

you overcap it

after sunday it kills your excess

[shadow void]

when phase 2 ends does that coincide withe the overcap wipe?

[bright zodiac]

overcap is fine, before daily end

[subtle finch]

very nice , share it with fruit when they're online

[ancient pier]

will it be going at 100% efficiency with the parts and hetonite using 1 lane of input? I haven't see the recipe time yet

[craggy oyster]

1 land of h.xir/hetonite can supply up to 5 lines of j.gourd

[ancient pier]

I meant this part, is it fine by doing it in 1 line and not separate line for parts and heto

[craggy oyster]

yup it's 20s process that only need 1 of each

[ancient pier]

I see

[craggy oyster]

oh u right it will be like 2s delay

[subtle finch]

enkad have a working sim, you can just test it there

[craggy oyster]

yup im doing it now

[upper fiber]

well, it is good they auto trade the jade gourd on my sleep time when event ended, at least i'll get some more fruit

[subtle finch]

i think ill wait until my xiranite is near full before making the 18/min heavy

[marble yarrow]

540 originium 1.5 SC ahh

[subtle finch]

now if they would also auto trade my sanity pots instead of deleting them

[upper fiber]

yeah, outdated shet, what big game still use timed extra stamina

[subtle finch]

12 heavy and sc, you are bold sir,

[upper fiber]

isn't that what people will do?

[subtle finch]

aorta seem to believe in 3 heavy theory

[upper fiber]

12/min heavy, 1.5 sc, 3 hcv bat, 12/min jade gourd

[orchid pilot]

late catching up, sorry if already answered, but no, may 13 event end, Wednesday
as someone else mentioned, over-capped bills only purged on week reset (Sunday-to-Monday), so there will be ~4 days to figure out what to spend it on

smh needing to wake up at 5am for ph2 lol

[marble yarrow]

abandoning SC, smh

[regal horizon]

i got 68K xiranite should i use it to produce additional gourd?

[upper fiber]

people believe that the extra stuff will be converted to max 14m bills?

[orchid pilot]

how much heavy xiranite do you have stockpiled?

[marble yarrow]

i do

[regal horizon]

15K

[upper fiber]

this shet won't exist if that's true

[orchid pilot]

then "optimal" if you are willing to go through the hassle is to swap a forge from xiranite production to heavy xiranite production

it will eat up your stash in about 12 hours or so

[marble yarrow]

thats the UI for when you trade bill, player initiated

[subtle finch]

not anymore

[marble yarrow]

auto-convert is different

[shadow void]

also thats when the outpost has no bills, not that you cant hold more that 14m

[orchid pilot]

I believe auto-convert will behave the same, but I'm willing to go in for funsies

[marble yarrow]

"stock bill reserve"

[subtle finch]

yeah, auto convert is different, but we now assume it to be limited by outpost savings too

[marble yarrow]

why would the game drain the outpost for you

[subtle finch]

[shadow void]

why wouldnt it let you go over 14m when we can already do that

[marble yarrow]

If the amount of "Wuling Stock Bills" from this conversion exceeds the stock bill limit, the excess portion will be auto-converted to "Fruits of Altruism Certs".

[orchid pilot]

@regal horizon just to explain the rationale for this...
the jade gourds that can be crafted (using heavy xiranite) in a few days on phase 2 of the event are much higher value than the current xiranite gourds
so the best use case for your current pile of xiranite is not to make gourds, but to accumulate heavy xira to be spent later

[subtle finch]

i mean good if 14m is real, i'm all in regardless

.allin

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1487161512144408837/jr2xxrs.png?ex=69c82296&is=69c6d116&hm=f3d753f5f36591c36ee852d059da788a4d2bf7a68158e239f3c1b9e7a1830549&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=640&height=640

[orchid pilot]

en isn't their native language lol

any interpretation should be based on cn phrasing imo

[marble yarrow]

im not kinda into that

but if you get a CN person to explain it then its better

[shadow void]

either or, its not going to effect how many I'm ready to make, only if i care to make over what i need to get the shop/medal

[marble yarrow]

do not machine translate it

[orchid pilot]

they should express themselves correctly and unambiguously in every language

that was not machine translation, that was me translation

[subtle finch]

someone said the jps in twitter have confirmed it's the outpost savings too

[marble yarrow]

i'll stand with "stock bill limit" anyway

[random estuary]

The formula for jade guords is data mined. Is the numbers (of how many of each piece) also there? Are there already blueprints? (I just want to look at theoretically maximum input jade guords)

[upper fiber]

you have 13.5m bills and outpost conversion net you 600k, extra 100k will be converted to fruit i think

[brittle sedge]

in JP
it said "exchangable limit" so ill assume outpost stock

[subtle finch]

i'm with lanturn to assume the worse, and not be disappointed

[ancient pier]

How to provide the material without building the whole factory in enkad?

[shadow void]

WELL

[orchid pilot]

I don't even need to speak jp to see it's phrased the same way in jp, can just read the kanji

交换 exchange 可能 possible ... 上限 upper limit... 超 exceed

same thing as the cn

[subtle finch]

you dont need to, as long as it's not produced by a unit, its considered unlimited

[upper fiber]

it is good if 14m, you can dream big since the devs are HG....

[shadow void]

well everyone is interpreting it differently

[random estuary]

So what's the benefit of 14mil?
Extra conversion beyond natural outpost generation? .... Bragging rights?

[subtle finch]

14mil is so useful lol

crafting gear drains a lot of bills

[craggy oyster]

is this working?

[ancient pier]

why is it 0 tho

[subtle finch]

send link

[ancient pier]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=H3p9x7b0h1k5R5

[craggy oyster]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=H4q8t4Y6N7c8V7

[tame sedge]

pretty sure it wont work with het coming out at 30/min. it will clogg that line and not let any fittings out

[subtle finch]

you didnt set the fluid type in outlet, i think the converger at the bottom right cant work too

it's 6/min if those are fixed

[craggy oyster]

hmm im testing it in game it really a new experience to work with 20s process

[subtle finch]

i think it makes sense, that converger will clog eventually

[ancient pier]

So it needs 2 line of input

[subtle finch]

[marsh inlet]

So uhh.... ?

Bugged?

[orchid pilot]

looks like it to me, since you show it places fine on the other side

[marsh inlet]

[craggy oyster]

it will go to turn so it sstill a 1:1 ratio of the 2 materials

[subtle finch]

yeah, but eventually the unit will fill with heto

[brittle sedge]

unrendered belt? or did you drop any items there
go 3d and look around that area

[subtle finch]

the heto rate is higher

fitting only outputs every 20s
then a single heto will permanently occupy the converger

[orchid pilot]

ohhh yeah maybe stray pipe or something

[marsh inlet]

Hmm ill try, theres no pipes or anything, I selected all in that area and deleted before even posting vid, could be a lose item maybe?

[craggy oyster]

doesnt matter cuz it 2 lines going into a convergers it will be 50:50

isnt it how it work?

[subtle finch]

the packaging consumes them at 1:1 ratio, but the belt isnt sending at 1:1 ratio

[marsh inlet]

[subtle finch]

heto is 30/min, while fitting is 2 every 20s

[marsh inlet]

Ima lose it bro

[craggy oyster]

ik, but it will be after the convergers

[orchid pilot]

LMAO

I thought of that but I thought it only affects when AIC

surprised the depot unloader also can't bump them out of the way

[marsh inlet]

Where can I report this?

[orchid pilot]

try moving your team away

[marsh inlet]

Already did that

[orchid pilot]

oh

thonk

no clue

[marsh inlet]

[tame sedge]

your fitting is putting an item into the converger every 20 seconds

[marsh inlet]

And its in a nice corner that I was using

Smh

[brittle sedge]

go debug mode
pick a unit and running around see where exactly the red is

[craggy oyster]

oh yeyeye it got it now . so it doenst work

damn it

[subtle finch]

it's not that hard to image, even if packaging gets free space after it finish processing
there will still be too much heto in the lane

[marsh inlet]

Vaguely looks like theres a patch rendered

[marble yarrow]

12 forge evil mega base with 1.5 SC test area free effluent cope (powder meta transfer coz where the F is my ferrium 😭 )

[craggy oyster]

yeye it will not work, gotta fix that

[fervent lodge]

that plumbing is scary

[tame sedge]

this is starting to look like silicon IC layout

[marble yarrow]

is 60/min testmap new originium nodes even realistic 😭

[orchid pilot]

I expect 0 new ori tbh

[rocky niche]

where do I look for the upcoming items for event?

[orchid pilot]

after 1.2.1... I've lost hope

[bright zodiac]

[subtle finch]

my old base

[orchid pilot]

if only I could ask the design folks at work what their "sandleaf loop" equivalent is

[marsh inlet]

Seems like theres a depot access thingy

In the way

[tame sedge]

imagine your suprise when they give you a valid answer

[marble yarrow]

spoiler territory for 1.2.2 from datamine (avoid if u dont want)

[orchid pilot]

BOGGERS

[shadow void]

[rocky niche]

where do i look for those datamined items?

[subtle finch]

i told you there's ferrium originium there!

[ruby sorrel]

strange

[ancient charm]

when do we get it btw

[marble yarrow]

test area @ May 14th

[random estuary]

Wait. Can a "waste treatment plant" take care of excess water too? Or will dumping it in there clog....

[hoary crag]

still no ferrium 😭

[marble yarrow]

also new ||depot node||

[orchid pilot]

wait is it literally ||just two nodes||

[rocky niche]

ferrium is the amethyst of wuling

[shadow void]

finally

[subtle finch]

about time tbh

[rocky niche]

4

[orchid pilot]

nope, tried, it doesn't take water

[shadow void]

LOL, time to manually do the current one I guess

[orchid pilot]

anyway excess water you can typically feed back

[rocky niche]

@subtle finch

[subtle finch]

i can't believe ||you fell for it ||

[vale topaz]

damn, that 2 cuprium node probably only worth 60 cuprium

[marsh inlet]

[dense blade]

wait just those two

[subtle finch]

just click the unit and select the recipe, its there somewhere

[marble yarrow]

new map things

[marsh inlet]

(Its not because of gil if you were wondering)

[brittle sedge]

relog to see if that will loaded in ig

[untold matrix]

you guys still making gourds after claimed everything ?

[orchid pilot]

@random estuary if it's steady gen like the 4 inert purification from the SC batts, you can feed that to a refiner
if it's intermittent (like using a reactor to create xircon effluent to power a temporary heavy forge), you can just loop it back and because it's low utilization, the converger will just round robin and clog the pump, not the purifier
I made the mistake of running the purifier water to fluid supply unit (dump) unnecessarily for so long
of course, if you're not minmaxing power, doesn't really matter, fluid supply unit is only 10 power

[marsh inlet]

Man just tryna fix my cursed awful factory

[brittle sedge]

exchange rate is good

[dense blade]

or stash up hetonite and heavy for phase 2

[worldly pivot]

can anyone share their sc battery production with use of effluent recycle? cant seem to get it right

[marsh inlet]

Hard enough without bugs smh

[vale topaz]

new mortar site.

[brittle sedge]

more flavor to the suffering

[ancient charm]

||I supposed we can finally finish the hetonite line and maybe get more originium for comps or batteries ||

[subtle finch]

sc is actually more profitable in terms of xiranite cost

[marsh inlet]

Relog seems to have fixed it

[ancient pier]

This one works, it should still be 14x20
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=H3p9x7b0h1k5R5

[marsh inlet]

[marsh inlet]

Very compact

[fervent lodge]

have you tried moving your team away though

like not standing in that spot

[worldly pivot]

slowly eating from stockpile.

[orchid pilot]

if you have below 20k heavy xira, you should be making heavy xira with your excess xiranite instead of gourd (to prep for phase 2)
as pipe hater pointed out to you

[random estuary]

So. Part of my issue is I bottled up effluent and sent it away. So now. There's .... Spare inert effluent being dumped into a treatment plant and not a lot of space nearby.
If I purification, I can recycle the effluent. But the water has to. Find a way out. im out of resources outside mini AIC. So can't conduit outside might just .... Conduit and pipe inside and try

[rocky niche]

@marble yarrow

[dense blade]

endfieldtools

[untold matrix]

60k heavy xiranite pretty comfortable now

[dense blade]

is where he got that from I think

[shadow void]

If only (not real)

[ancient pier]

https://opendfieldmap.org/

[dense blade]

[random estuary]

Is the right most pylon. Purely for the lower fitting unit??

[coral orchid]

F

[ancient pier]

yes

[orchid pilot]

yes PLS recycle and don't waste!!! it's easy to deal with the water

[dense blade]

I’m guessing 240 cuprium but I don’t get the originium

[marble yarrow]

(sweaty belts but i think you can just clog xiranite belt with no splitter)

[ancient pier]

Someone probably gonna find a better arrangement to reduce the pylon

[marble yarrow]

but i sent exactly 18/min xiranite as the ratio wants it

[orchid pilot]

I would recommend a setup where for the SC batteries, instead of feeding the inert back, just run the purified inert to your heavy xiranite forge

the setups Hikarin and harunachan shared are for if you're not running a heavy forge

but if you are, it's perfect offtake of the 4 SC reactors

[marsh inlet]

Could someone point me in the direction of a good video that explains how the new expanded crucible works? Not like, copy this design, but like explains mechanics well?

[orchid pilot]

it's the same thing as the old one, really

just extra slots

[swift steppe]

It essentially makes more recipes at once, but still has the old forge's speed limit

[orchid pilot]

still auto recipe selection by the unit itself

[marble yarrow]

yeah literally same but 3 simultaneous reactions

[marsh inlet]

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-8662632631608934966

[atomic maple]

is 2 heavy xiranite 1 batteyr production feasible? gonna prefarm for the next production update

[random estuary]

can someone explain to me how the normal crucible works... Like. Why it do that

[dense blade]

same thing but you have 8 slots inside instead of 5, meaning you can produce double the amount of items in theory, but it cost twice the amount of power and is 5x6 instead of 5x5.

[ruby sorrel]

what mechanics it's just a crucible

[marsh inlet]

Finna just start spamming as much shit into it as I can and see if it works out

[random estuary]

It's also a belt router too

[marsh inlet]

Blue dust and xiranite getting slammed into this mf

[subtle finch]

tbf, its more intuitive if you made the xircon with 5 crucibles first
jumping straight to expanded is probably "a bit" confusing

[random estuary]

Be a coder. Copy paste hw and learn why they built it that way
and then break it trying to optimize

[orchid pilot]

important to note that it cannot make two of the same recipe even if you feed it double inputs

[marsh inlet]

I made the batteries before this patch

[subtle finch]

skill issue then

[marsh inlet]

Yeah this is misrable

[marsh inlet]

WHY DO YOU THINK IM TRYING TO FIND A VIDEO EXPLAINING IT

[marble yarrow]

(man i miss the 1inert:1effluent purification cope days)

[subtle finch]

[craggy oyster]

well extended cru is 2.5 crus of the previous ver

[marsh inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/smartphone-anime-anime-girl-message-angry-gif-14177720025092124269

[random estuary]

Did you copy hw or did you put together the pieces yourself?

[orchid pilot]

I mean, what is there to say about the crucible
If you give it food it likes, and it's not full of shit, it eats and shits

[marsh inlet]

I did it myself

I tried to do it this patch and effectively got laughed at

[random estuary]

Ah then. You can just. Imagine 2 crucibles turning into 1 to save some space. And route it that way. That's what I did.
I saved.... A whole 50 units of space....

[orchid pilot]

oh I guess the important distinction afforded by the extra slots is that now it can self sustain if its shit is also its food

[random estuary]

Sewage from that last reaction can be consumed for the original.

[marsh inlet]

This is what I had but it was ugly and "bad" so

[marsh inlet]

I tore it apart

[subtle finch]

here are examples

[craggy oyster]

and this is equal to an extended crucibles now

[random estuary]

Who care about ugly. Let me show you ugly

[marsh inlet]

I CARE

[craggy oyster]

no dont show us ahahah

[subtle finch]

🪞

[bright zodiac]

2xiranite line, its only 30/m xircon no matter how many expanded u use

[marble yarrow]

(i mean that says they're expanded crucibles already, and the image is 12/min SC)

[marsh inlet]

In english

[random estuary]

If you care about ugly. It's not understanding. You just want to find and copy someone else's design. Ez.

[bright zodiac]

holy

[marsh inlet]

I refuse

[coral orchid]

@marsh inlet@random estuary
In nutshell

Reactor Crucible / Expandable Crucible is just a machine that capable of running 1 or more recipe processing

Difference?

1. Power consumption
2. Input and output gateway
3. The size of the Factory
4. Processing slots

TL:DR
Reactor Crucible = CPU

[bright zodiac]

[marble yarrow]

summary: why is there a sandleaf in my crucible

[dense blade]

obviously to make sandleaf solution

[random estuary]

You're right, should be powder.
Liquid sand leaf when

[rocky niche]

it's part of the progress

[coral orchid]

Copy&Pasta Blueprints only = trash

[marsh inlet]

Also, is it even worth trying to recycle my inert xircon?

[orchid pilot]

if I'm reading this correctly, it's perfectly fine except that I think you should be feeding the xiranite and water into the right side reactor, and just kill the middle reactor

[subtle finch]

acid was supposed to be sandleaf solution
it was too powerful so they changed it

[bright zodiac]

you are capped to 30/m xircon at your current setup bcs u use only 2xiranite line output

use 4 xiranite line and 4 expanded for 60/m xircon

all 4 expanded need water supply, 2 expanded need sewage.

2 expanded produce xircon, the other 2 dont produce xircon but help making effluent

[rocky niche]

sounds like elitist take on players who just copy bp

[orchid pilot]

I assume they're just showing half of their setup

[marsh inlet]

Nah Its cowardly to copy bps imo

[vale topaz]

you can purify that inert xircon into xircon effluent which will be used for heavy xiranite production

[marsh inlet]

And im awful at factory

[swift steppe]

Can fuel 2x Expanded Crucible Xircon with 0.5 of Cuprium sewage, the recipe making sewage fills in the other 0.5 sewage.

[marsh inlet]

Learning is half the battle and joy of this game

[bright zodiac]

maybe but even so it use 1extra expanded and it use water treatment

[coral orchid]

Well, depend on the case
can you increase usage of the Xiranite instead?
if yes, you can dispose it
if not, you can use recycling method

[marble yarrow]

the only BP i copy and still use is FRUIT's compact 90/min xira COZ ITS THE GOAT

[marsh inlet]

How are you making 4x effluent in the first place, should I be doubling my production of batteries?

Usually its just 2

[coral orchid]

2x SC Battery Productions

[marsh inlet]

That feels unnecessary

[upper fiber]

use bp and learn from it is faster.... ofc need to pick good bp

[marsh inlet]

Im already overcapping

[swift steppe]

Have you gotten more outposts to throw batteries at yet?

[rocky niche]

copying bp and then realizing you dont like some parts of it so you customized those said parts instead

[marsh inlet]

I have both

[vale topaz]

2 sc line battery will produce 4 inert xircon waste, converge those waste into purification unit.
you'll get constant xircon effluent.

[marsh inlet]

I guess I could sell the extra?

[random estuary]

"I cap by selling heavy xiranite"

[upper fiber]

where, i need 6forge one

[orchid pilot]

@marsh inlet voila

[bright zodiac]

my condolences

[marsh inlet]

Wait why?

[orchid pilot]

and yes, you should be running two of these

[marble yarrow]

basically you put 2x 90/min forge side-by-side, and a 7th forge and it all fits in an outpost

[orchid pilot]

because you have 8 slots

all of it can fit

I guess I have xiranite on the wrong side

[coral orchid]

you need 2 Xiranites output from depot (60/mins Xiranite usage) to make 1 SC Battery
So you can x2 it

Meanwhile you can use the remains to make another items
Such as Heavy Xiranite

[orchid pilot]

so you have to reroute slightly

[marsh inlet]

And then how do you get 4 out of only 2 outflows even if I do do that

[orchid pilot]

you don't, you duplicate this setup

you have enough xiranite, ferrium, ori to do it

[marble yarrow]

@upper fiber https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1487561669180788867

[orchid pilot]

that's why all of us have 4 expanded reactors

[marsh inlet]

dw I scrapped the whole thing bcs I didnt like it

[orchid pilot]

making SC batts

[subtle finch]

show us what you have attempted first, it just goes nowhere if you just ask without action
you can't prioritize aesthetic if you can't even make it work in the first place

[bright zodiac]

all of us has only 4expanded + 1purification +1 forge and 0 water treatment

for 60/m xircon and 6/m heavyX

[meager stream]

4forge sky for 12/m scw, other 4 forges for hxira 6/m

[marsh inlet]

So 1 produces xircon effluent, and the other produces xircon, correct?

Its 2/battery

[bright zodiac]

its 6/m battery

[marsh inlet]

2 extended reactors

Per battery (optimally)

[pulsar cypress]

*me who still not use 4 exp coz lazy to change the nice looks with 5 normal.. XD

[orchid pilot]

nice looks????????

I could not WAIT to get rid of my spaghetti LMAO

[marsh inlet]

Do you have 4 battery lines then to make enough inert recyling worth it?

[swift steppe]

I switched over to the 2x EC setup with the gourd event to save space.

[ruby sorrel]

just think of it like this

[vale topaz]

here is the sequence for 2 expanded crucible = 1 xircon

1. 1st crucible get water/sewage/xiranite, will produce effluent and inert xircon.
2. 2nd crucible get water/effluent from 1st/ferrium pwder/xiranite
3. 2nd crucible will wait to get 2 effluent so ferrium powder can produce xircon and sewage.
4. 2nd crucible, after ferrium powder produce sewage, the xiranite at 2nd crucible will produce xircon effluent which stay inside waiting another effluent from 1st crucible.
5. send both curcible inert xircon to a purification unit.

[meager stream]

Dev pls make expanded upgraded to 4 pipe input output 😢

[worldly pivot]

Thanks everyone. How do you control sewage flow to 18?

[orchid pilot]

it's 2 battery lines

you can't support more

but both reactors in each line make inert

[pulsar cypress]

I mean.. If change it, there will be hole in the middle of nice fit square.. -_-)

[marsh inlet]

But thats only 2 outflows of inert no?

[orchid pilot]

nope, you have 4 total

[marsh inlet]

Wait why?

[orchid pilot]

so it perfectly feeds one heavy xira forge

[brittle sedge]

if you want nice looking heres my prisoner crucibles setup

[upper fiber]

so many belts facility.... can't use this on main pac

[orchid pilot]

take a look at my markup of your image

you feed the xira and water into your previoujs "pure xircon" reactor

[marsh inlet]

Isnt only one forge producing effluent xircon?

[orchid pilot]

so it is also making one line of xircon effluent

and inert

fed by its own sewage

[marsh inlet]

Oh

You make xircon effluent in both

[bright zodiac]

same, i used to have my perfect design back then on 1.1

(had to change to save power ;w; )

[marsh inlet]

I see

[orchid pilot]

exactly

[marsh inlet]

Weirdddd

Im guessing its the expanded crucible that allows that?

[orchid pilot]

exactly the "eating its own shit" from earlier

[swift steppe]

Can fit everything inside yea

[orchid pilot]

yup, because it has enough slots available

[pulsar cypress]

5/10..
Add a line of pipe bridge for the prison bar for 10/10..

[orchid pilot]

to fit all those things

[marsh inlet]

Ic

[bright zodiac]

also symmetric ❤️

[marsh inlet]

Well time to smash some stuff together and get this working

O7

Thx for the help

[orchid pilot]

o7

[marsh inlet]

Oh

Before I go

6 forges maxing xiranite is fine?

[orchid pilot]

wtf why are they jailed

most people are running 7 xiranite and 1 heavy

[worldly pivot]

are you producing 60/m xircon with this single set up?

[vale topaz]

if you got with 2sc connect to heavy xira, you have 7 forge for xiranite

[marsh inlet]

And, what do you use your cuprium for? Should I try and incorporate hetonite and acid?

[subtle finch]

yes

[vale topaz]

separate them, hetonite line is very power hungry and space wasting.

[orchid pilot]

it is identical currently in terms of stock bills whether you choose to make medicine A and C or hetonite
but I would certainly recommend go full hetonite, especially if you haven't already been doing so

[marsh inlet]

(I have a singular dual pump of acid I routed back to main aic)

[random estuary]

Store in depot and send elsewhere. Cuprium useful for everything else.

[marsh inlet]

Should I just refine it, depot it and send it somewhere else to be processed for other things?

[vale topaz]

cuprium part for facility production
hetonite parts for tower production and new component

[marsh inlet]

Kk

[orchid pilot]

up to you how exactly you want to arrange it, just make sure you are offtaking it all, don't want it to cap and go to waste

[bright zodiac]

if you have unused cuprium, just turn it into bottle , powder and part, hoard it if you dont know what to do with it

never let cuprium sit at 68K and facility clog and produce 0 sewage

[marsh inlet]

Ill just refine it and dump it back into the system o/

[orchid pilot]

well you need to have your usages planned out

[marsh inlet]

Well, all of them use refined cuprium anyways right?

Ill figure out acid after I get this worked out

[orchid pilot]

med A line is 120/min eat
hetonite line is 240/min eat
so you can make 0.75x a hetonite line
or 1.5 med A (plus med C matching the ferrium of hetonite)
or any mix in between
I recommend full 0.75x hetonite right now

[vale topaz]

at least allow 30/m cuprium part to max and tgen stopped so you dont have to worry about facility with cuprium part

[orchid pilot]

true, if you're already capped, priority is just unclog

[marble yarrow]

well, my all in one main aic have this, for 9 forges. but idk if there are more space efficient like that

[marsh inlet]

Ill get back to yall once ive got my heavy xira running

[upper fiber]

the issue at mainpac is more of limit than space

[subtle finch]

here's a baby guide

[upper fiber]

but thanks anyway, maybe i can use it on 2 subpac when 12 forge out

[worldly pivot]

ok. i was confused at first then i see that one your reactors is feeding xircon to another just to pass through.

[upper fiber]

there are 2 popular way when making xircon, the half half and xircon eff extra

[bright zodiac]

and the quarter quarter quarter quarter

[upper fiber]

raise raika gang

[subtle finch]

.gethisass

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif?ex=6907bea1&is=69066d21&hm=bd40aabb5a87693f5187ff200edd75fe42ea895c26dcbf88ce2671422e4e2ed6

[bright zodiac]

i use 4 , lulz

[upper fiber]

reactor or expanded

[swift steppe]

I've used the 1/2+1/2 because it was easier to plan around.

[bright zodiac]

4 expanded 1 purif 1 skyforge

runssss

[orchid pilot]

slightly widened in/out lateral gap in the 5th rxn for ease of visual parse (should be obvious but)

[subtle finch]

[bright zodiac]

sry to betray your expectation xD hahahah

[orchid pilot]

I think whoever created originally was careful to do that because all the others are like that

just the solid xircon one missing and placed a lil close

[upper fiber]

raikabait gang

[bright zodiac]

but definitely there are ppl who make 15/m xircon with 1 expanded

copy it 4 times

[orchid pilot]

lmao yeah I'm still on the old 4x0.5 design

[bright zodiac]

its the same except, i want to utilize the inert into 1 purif all at once in 1 setup

[orchid pilot]

maybe I'll fix it if I end up deleting batteries for jade gourd memes

it was just braindead to instantly lay down

[upper fiber]

conduit made my factory life easier when changing stuff

[subtle finch]

half xircons can clog from buildup if you pause it for some reason
that's why i hate it

[green sleet]

4 expandeds give enough inert to let you run 1 heavy xira line. Love them

[swift steppe]

In my experience, that's when it hits 50-ish sewage.

[uncut briar]

eh? any of you use 15/m xircon?

where each expanded making 15/m

[orchid pilot]

it's the same regardless of which setup you use

[orchid pilot]

^ @ Celestine

[uncut briar]

yes, except the inert waste will still end up into 1 purification anyway

[worldly pivot]

i think this might be fine for now.

[subtle finch]

literally everyone complaining about clog when patch hits were all using half xircons

[marble yarrow]

4 ferrium input, 4 sewage input

i cant

[green sleet]

But more compact than if it were with standard crucis

[orchid pilot]

You gotta swap a forge to heavy xira

you want it for event phase 2

and the setup is very free

with the SC batt lines, as discussed above, you have enough inert to feed one purifier fully, and that purifier feeds your heavy forge

[subtle finch]

that's what they wanted to do lol

[bright zodiac]

tbh i used to have 15/m for experimental, it works but then i merged it into more compact into 1design setup + heavyX

[uncut briar]

gotta split split split

[worldly pivot]

its ok. i dont need to rush phase 2, im done with team upgrades so no rush for the upgrade mats.

[orchid pilot]

it's not about rushing

[uncut briar]

in the end its kinda same

[orchid pilot]

it's about maximizing your bill return

[swift steppe]

I haven't had my 4x 0.5 EC setup explode after making sure the rest of the config is flowing at full speed.

[orchid pilot]

making xiranite gourds now is strictly worse

[worldly pivot]

i am maxing out my bill with the 9/m gourd.

[orchid pilot]

in phase 2 you can max out bills with ONLY heavy xira gourd

ie, trade in nothing else at all

if you have enough heavy xira stocked

so it is better now to stop producing xira gourd

and stock up heavy xira

[ancient pier]

I feel like am wasting so much space with these wide ahh units

[orchid pilot]

if you don't care about better, that's fine

in the end, we're all overproducing stock bill limit

[subtle finch]

that was my production too at the beginning too

[orchid pilot]

but it means more batteries in your pocket

[worldly pivot]

yeah i'll switch to back to heavy once phase 2 is out

[orchid pilot]

because you aren't "wasting" them on trade-in

point is, you're already behind on potential benefits of phase 2 if you're not currently going in with heavy xira in hand

[worldly pivot]

what's the potential benefit of phase 2?

[green sleet]

Loot

[orchid pilot]

4x stock bill tradein

per gourd

[subtle finch]

im sure you can still clear shop and get trimmed with just 6/min at the start of phase 2

[orchid pilot]

it uses 1 heavy xira + 1 hetonite

yes, absolutely

i'm talking stock bill benefit

[subtle finch]

the only difference is the excess products you will hoard

[orchid pilot]

excess batteries

[uncut briar]

well said

u got lots of fingers on you now

[orchid pilot]

so the ph2 gourd is cheaper than current gourd in terms of raw xiranite and gives much higher payoff

[dire vapor]

Happy with the 12/min I made last night for Jade Gourd

[orchid pilot]

so unless you are in desperate need of something from shop now (or already have a mountain of heavy xira), it's better to "use" your xira on heavy gourd than on current

[shadow void]

changing my excess xiranite over from gourds back into xircon effluent

[green sleet]

Theyre treating Hikarin like an animal in a petting zoo.

[coral orchid]

because Alturist Quota is done, Back to Heavy Xiranite

[uncut briar]

1 expanded 1 crucible

[dire vapor]

Yeah because the shredder can't feed two belts in otherwise lmao

[green sleet]

Good ol added inputs

[dire vapor]

Only using it for its more flexible input locations

[coral orchid]

Are you sure that is the recipe?
If yes, where do you get the blueprint?

[uncut briar]

well... 50 more power

[orchid pilot]

some people optimize power, some people optimize cool layout I guess lol

[dire vapor]

Shit I fucked up, the belts on the left are off by 1

Disaster

[sick basin]

Yea it is the recipe

[dense blade]

guys, just to make sure I’m not missing anything, you can only fit 6 pumps in jingyu right

[worldly pivot]

are we getting the 4 additional forge once phase 2 is out?

[orchid pilot]

inside, yeah

just drag one from outside the gate

[sick basin]

Of 1.2 yes, not of the event

[coral orchid]

Where is the recipe?

[uncut briar]

the top most, you can add 1 secret pump (near the waterfall)

i think its more than 7

[sick basin]

In the files of the game

[orchid pilot]

https://enka.network/endfield/aic/ datamined

[coral orchid]

Just for information
So basically, this is leak?

Hmm

[green sleet]

No?

[shadow void]

Phase 2 ending coincides with Test Area release, May 14. Thats when +4 forges

[coral orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[subtle finch]

[orchid pilot]

depends on what you consider a "leak"
these were in game files upon 1.2 update

[worldly pivot]

i see thanks!

[coral orchid]

Basically, it's not even official release / live
So it's basically leak

Beta files actually a leak too

[orchid pilot]

🤷 that is not how many of us interpret "leak", up to you how you define it

live game files

[worldly pivot]

we should get more factory related events, this is fun.

[shadow void]

Well, Enkad is pinned by a Mod

so dosent matter

[rocky niche]

datamined is from ingame files not yet released in live version but still within the current patch
leaks are stuffs for future patches

[coral orchid]

How about we ask the mods in here?

[orchid pilot]

And also it's not really EnKAD itself, just showing us game file contents

[shadow void]

leaks are the things that can get you in trouble

[dense blade]

all I ask for is better timing

[rocky niche]

it's literally written in rules

unless you didnt read the rules before entering this server

[orchid pilot]

there's the post, ping them if you want

[sick basin]

Bro does not know the difference between leak and datamine im crine

[dire vapor]

Fixed the fucked up inputs on the left...

[green sleet]

Tbf a lot of people treat them the same since theyre both things that the devs didnt want out

[sterile stratus]

can i ask what is ts...

[dire vapor]

Jade Gourd

[valid gazelle]

jade gourd production line

[dire vapor]

12/min

[sterile stratus]

oh

ok

[brittle sedge]

if they don want it out they wouldnt put it in the data

[rocky niche]

is 12/min feasible or do you cut out some batteries?

[brittle sedge]

datamine has always been a thing

[shadow void]

and if it werent allowed mods wouldnt pin Enkad

[dire vapor]

I'm importing HC Valley 4 Batteries

[shadow void]

are we talking about the Gourd recipes ?

[orchid pilot]

12/min is also feasible if you have a stockpile of 73k heavy xira

[sterile stratus]

each sc line consumes 60 xir?

[marble yarrow]

(purists exists)

[sterile stratus]

i wonder who's eating 120...

anyway i gotta stock up heavy xira

i have enough heto

[green sleet]

120?

[subtle finch]

afaik, the devs don't mind datamining, but sharing it to the community is questionable
since others want to experience the stuff on their official release

[sterile stratus]

yeah lol i'm eating 180/min

oh wait i had a heavy xir line running lol nevermind

[rocky niche]

rules said to spoiler it when posting datamined stuffs, so it still caters both sides of players

[dire vapor]

You can do 12/min heavy xira with 8 forges anyway, 1 heavy forge will eat 3 forges worth of xira

[dense blade]

isn’t 12/min sustainable right from production

[uncut briar]

rip xircon

[dense blade]

12+ drains depot

[subtle finch]

yeah, but the cat's out of the bag already 😭

[shadow void]

< everyone in the server talking about Gourds

[sterile stratus]

stock up heavy xir

[orchid pilot]

correct (assuming you keep your batteries)

[sterile stratus]

lol

[coral orchid]

Thanks @subtle finch for clearing situations

[dire vapor]

I can temporarily run 24/min using my stockpiled hxira

[shadow void]

somemone do perlisnap

[sterile stratus]

hwy not

[tawny shadow]

this feels so bad

[marble yarrow]

||imma snitch u to the mods||

[dense blade]

just run hcv + originium ore

[sterile stratus]

can i report this to mods

[rocky niche]

there are a lot of people explaining the situation to you tho, not only hikarin

[dire vapor]

Oh yeah I could just burn all the originium to save maybe one hc valley battery lmao

[tawny shadow]

I still have 60/min unused orig

[sterile stratus]

is there much difference between using orig directly or sc

[dire vapor]

I forgot originium could be directly burnt

[dense blade]

xiranite bottleneck

there’s no point not to use originium straight up

[shadow void]

Would be funny to open up aic-factory channel to nothing but spoiler comments tho

[sterile stratus]

?

[tawny shadow]

I had like 270/min unused orig

I'd rather keep my sc instead of using them

[marble yarrow]

i will, in event phase 2

[coral orchid]

Well, tbh, leak were using that statement as well
"we consider this from datamining" stuff.

So basically this one is still no-go

If anyone here can ask mods directly, we can confirm it and make it official statement instead

[green sleet]

Especially if everyone marks their comments as spoilers so the entire chat is sensored

[dire vapor]

1 belt of originium can feed 4 thermal banks thats hilarious

[orchid pilot]

suggesting this to the wrong person lol, I haven't eaten any wuling batteries yet, been running since launch on v4hc

[dense blade]

pretty sure after hvc you can get 2300 from orig

[orchid pilot]

haven't decided yet whether I'll kill batts for gourd memes

[rocky niche]

you're applying genshin leaks definition to endfield leak vs datamine definition. that;s where the deviation comes from

[dense blade]

lol

[orchid pilot]

it's a solid maybe

[rocky niche]

if you wanna ping a mod, go ping the mod who pinned enkad

[orchid pilot]

each stream of ori powers 200

and we have what, 480? so 16 streams?

so 3200

[uncut briar]

imagine everyone write like

||this ||
||................||

[ancient pier]

How to make it smaller?

[sterile stratus]

i ain't surviving with that power

🥀

[shadow void]

Man, you tottaly got me

[valid gazelle]

||we're talking blanks||

[orchid pilot]

if all your expanded reactors are off, you probably do lol

[marble yarrow]

tbh every database website with datamine would've died easily since HG kills leaks effectively if its classified like that

[uncut briar]

||ssshhhh this is not spoiler||

[dense blade]

it’ll be 2300 + the power from 3 thermals of hcv

[shadow void]

||crap, i messed up and forgot to add spoiler||

[sterile stratus]

lemme test

[uncut briar]

||now spread the cult||

[marble yarrow]

yeah actually || ||, || ||!!!

[sterile stratus]

|| ||?

[dire vapor]

Amazing

[valid gazelle]

||a spolier in a spoiler||

[viscid plover]

||lmao made you click||

[uncut briar]

||yooooo what the flip||

[rocky niche]

ferrenia sounds like they tryna push their own definition of leaks based on hoyo games to endfield datamined files definition

[green sleet]

Itd be even more if you just sat on dijang manually moving orig from valley iv to wuling

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/funny-discord-4--k01KQP0V996V8MM8AF25QRWY2YM

[shadow void]

||I've said this probably to many times but i only need to make 18.09/m Jade Gourds to depete my stock over 204 hours||

[uncut briar]

||do not click, ops, too late||

[sterile stratus]

||too bad 3.9k power usage||

[valid gazelle]

|| ||

[orchid pilot]

rip

[hidden temple]

||||||||||||||||||||

[sterile stratus]

||i'm too lazy to even transfer batteries lol that's why i don't bother using hcv4||

[green sleet]

Fair

[uncut briar]

||nah i aint gonna do manual labor anymore||

[sterile stratus]

||❌ ||||⭕ ||

[shadow void]

||i'm running everything off HCV||

[uncut briar]

||imagine ppl that just enter #aic-factory ||

[valid gazelle]

||i dont even have spare hcv||

[dense blade]

uh

[orchid pilot]

ok folks ha ha funny meme can we return to normal conversation instead of dunking on ferrenia

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fire-writing-2--k01KQP0EBF1SG0N95NE22F55QDY

[shadow void]

Fr, probably shouldnt do that

[valid gazelle]

anywhos ~

2 more days

[orchid pilot]

like, yes, they are a little aggressive with their interpretation of what can/should be discussed

but

who cares

[sterile stratus]

i probably should try using hcv4 for today

[dense blade]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-arknights-endfield-gif-17735632637872025915

[sterile stratus]

h

[rocky niche]

they be entering the chat and seeing censored stuffs like scp files

[shadow void]

.landmine

[cinder sun]

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[sterile stratus]

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[uncut briar]

w<)v

[valid gazelle]

you meant... [REDACTED]

[sterile stratus]

"READ-ACTED"

[shadow void]

REDACTED

[green sleet]

But... but its funny... haha laugh time... right?

[sterile stratus]

[rocky niche]

.cantread

[cinder sun]

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[sterile stratus]

nah bro that guy typed an A there

[shadow void]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362

[orchid pilot]

LMAOOOO this is so perfect

[dire vapor]

45k heavy xira, should be able to reach cap by phase 2

Sorry I should have spoilered that to keep people safe

[valid gazelle]

now now

[uncut briar]

what is even spoiler, they click anyway

[dire vapor]

Xiranite is also technically a spoiler to the people still in V4

[uncut briar]

[sterile stratus]

the temptation to do dat

[uncut briar]

true, its even more tempting to click when you hide things

[uncut briar]

damnnnnnn

[marble yarrow]

no leeks

[shadow void]

[uncut briar]

||ok ok, no leeks||

[dire vapor]

I believe even talking about the existence of the AIC Factory is a spoiler to someone in the world somewhere, so I propose that we delete this channel

Can't be too safe

[shadow void]

we would need channels for every chapter in the game

bare minimum, channels per region

[green sleet]

Shit. they make a good point. Cant be spoiling no factory secrets to the people who havent downloaded the game yet

[valid gazelle]

in fact let's mark this entire server as "spoilers"

cant be too safe

[marble yarrow]

#aic-valley4
#aic-wuling

[dire vapor]

If they knew about the factory beforehand, it would ruin the element of surprise and greatly damage the enjoyment of their gaming experience

We can't let that happen for the prosperity of Endfield

[marble yarrow]

#aic-dont-talk-about-sewage

[uncut briar]

imagine entering chat and saw, SC wuling battery 3200 power

and v4 lv20 endmin be like....
whaaaaaaat the f

[shadow void]

#jade-gourd-only-chat

[dire vapor]

I think people who post about the giant 40k liquid hole in Wuling should also spoiler themselves

[shadow void]

99% of chat would head to that channel

[valid gazelle]

#aic-sandleaf-glazing

[dire vapor]

Images of filling the hole with liquids will now be restricted

[sterile stratus]

now i know i can shift click to take items fast to bp

[green sleet]

Ok, but whatd you fill yours back up with? I chose liquid xiranite

[uncut briar]

new endmin finish their first LC battery, and then they saw wuling hetonite , xircon, heavyX factory

[valid gazelle]

new endmin building their first machine gun sentry, and then discovered we have mortars

[shadow void]

Endmins just starting out, handmining ores, learning about Mining Rigs

[uncut briar]

Endmin manual labor relay, learning about wuling endmin doing xiranite relay

[swift steppe]

ngl, the firepower on the mortars feels a bit extreme, but i guess it's more incentive to focus on factory and routing power to speed up farming.

[uncut briar]

[shadow void]

[marble yarrow]

jade gourd in 2 days 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[dire vapor]

You think the firepower is extreme, but the shield bros still tank it all the same

[sterile stratus]

anyone is using hcv4 for wuling can i ask how many batteries u transfer per day

[upper fiber]

you make it in wuling

why transfer

[sterile stratus]

uh

[nova osprey]

i hope you're not using relays and pylons to power weapon facilities @.@

[uncut briar]

the shield bro at power plateau right? its disgusting...

[sterile stratus]

f nvm

i'll stick to sc

[upper fiber]

bro is playing the game on dusk huh

[swift steppe]

Was already routing other stuff nearby in most cases, and less hassle later if it isn't near power cap.

[limpid pawn]

ddoes anyone have an efficient buck cap and can citrome A blueprint

[dire vapor]

My V4 everything was about to hit cap, so transferring the HC batteries was a good thing in a way

[shadow void]

3-4 transfers daily

[green sleet]

Not a whole lot can survive a bombardment of 10 cept for the big bois at the end of an effluvent

[uncut briar]

here comes v4 endmin, pls refrain of spoiling wuling stuff

[sterile stratus]

how much power are you using in wuling

[uncut briar]

hehehe

[shadow void]

atm 5k, usually 4.8

[sterile stratus]

hm

[nova osprey]

one stack of wuling batteries lasting literally 6 years of non stop sanity usage for a single alluvium

[sterile stratus]

i don't expect 3-4 transfers...

[dire vapor]

I'm only using 3.7k power in Wuling atm

[hidden hornet]

Ehbada debhabda

[dire vapor]

So 3 batteries banks and just 2 belts of raw originium burning

[shadow void]

feels like its slowly draining my V4 goods, but eh, i'll start using 1 SCW when the time comes

[valid gazelle]

it's better if you find yourself a suitable one in #1461542035617091681. I have an entire base to make half of the process and another subpac to finish the job, others have complete lines

[cyan forge]

The same can be said abt valley hc lol

[nova osprey]

well 2 years but even 2 years is insane

[cyan forge]

Indeed

[marble yarrow]

UNTIL EOS 🔥

[sterile stratus]

v4 bills are near useless now]

[nova osprey]

need eos batteries

[orchid pilot]

I do it like once or twice a week

[dire vapor]

1 stack of wuling batteries lasts for 960 shots of mortar, you'll practically never run out

[nova osprey]

i mean tbh

[orchid pilot]

it's I dunno, a few minutes to transfer a chunk of 30k batteries, say

[nova osprey]

1 stack scw is probably gonna last to eos

[shadow void]

its like 3 days of non-stop firing, you wont do that

[hidden hornet]

Blahdublee dooblahblah

[nova osprey]

you won't be perma farming one location that long lol

400k sanity smh

[cyan forge]

I mean, we r overproducing in wuling too anw

So it kinda don't matter

[dire vapor]

And if you somehow, beyond common use cases, do run out, just put another stack of batteries in

Its that shrimple

[nova osprey]

[shadow void]

not worth it, plus bills stop coming in after awhile, i guess you could farm the purple essence and crafting mats, but meh

[shadow void]

yeah, each transfer is like 5s. 1750 each

[sterile stratus]

10k hcv4 per day bruh i need 7 transfers

[meager stream]

[dire vapor]

On the other hand, if you hook up your turrets to the grid, its a mess of pylons, they eat energy forever even when they're not charging you pay the battery tax forever

[cyan forge]

What's the point tho. If u do that u'll just have too much sc and in turn have to start moving sc to v4

[shadow void]

-4 SCW

[green sleet]

You could fund an army with that sandleaf production

[cyan forge]

Isn't it just -3/min?

[sterile stratus]

i don't have many sc

[orchid pilot]

can confirm lmao

[bright zodiac]

choose your poison

[cyan forge]

Oh, r u not makin it cos of the event rn?

[shadow void]

more like 3.5/m

[orchid pilot]

it was pretty painful leading into 1.2

[meager stream]

used 3 scw xD

[sterile stratus]

not actually

[dire vapor]

my SC production is 0 because of the event

[cyan forge]

How is it 3.5?

[orchid pilot]

stashes for batteries everywhere

[shadow void]

its wibeldy wabledy up and down

[sterile stratus]

i kept my 13.25 sc line running during event

[cyan forge]

1 thermal eat 1.5 sc/min no? Since it's 40s til expire?

[iron stratus]

you didnt have to do that

[cyan forge]

Eh... Weird...

[sterile stratus]

xir still enough cuz i stock before event

[sterile stratus]

yes...

[orchid pilot]

PWM probably

[dire vapor]

We don't have to do anything, I did it because I want to

[cyan forge]

Then how do u run out lol

[shadow void]

at its peak its 4/m but the dip is 3/m

[cyan forge]

Hm... Odd

[sterile stratus]

i trade only sc bat and event item for stock bills

[cyan forge]

Didn't know that

[cyan forge]

And u're not capped on heto parts?

[shadow void]

its cuz they are running splitters into a battery to limit use probably

[cyan forge]

Na am not even usin that and mine is stable at 3/min

[sterile stratus]

only ~25k heto parts smh

[cyan forge]

[cyan forge]

Welp I'll be damned

What's ur power usage

[sterile stratus]

5.1-5.3k

[cyan forge]

Usage below 4.3k u can just 1 sc + 1 hc

[sterile stratus]

sometimes i'll turn on off some parts of my aic

[cyan forge]

Oh nvm

[sterile stratus]

i wish

[shadow void]

All my Hetonite was being stored, i'm only now saving parts

[sterile stratus]

idk why i'm eating so much power

[green sleet]

Same.

[cyan forge]

Am making heto pt at half efficiency

I mean, i only make 6/min hxira

So i kinda only need 12/min heto anw

[sterile stratus]

how much pwer are yo using

[cyan forge]

5.3k

I think?

[sterile stratus]

yeah about me

[cyan forge]

Am too lazy to turn off half of my dead factory

I run 2 sc and i do fine

Lol

[shadow void]

eating up my SCW cuz its the only thing i'm selling atm

[sterile stratus]

i want to ask someone about 4.3k

[cyan forge]

Moving hc is too much of a hassle

[shadow void]

luckily i got 80k sitting in V4

[sterile stratus]

so i know why am i eating pwer

[nova osprey]

are you running components atm?

[cyan forge]

I mean u can just do the sc + hc (transfer) + pmw hc

[upper fiber]

farm, zipline, turret

[cyan forge]

If u r at below 5.4k

[orchid pilot]

I think 4.3 is below prod

[cyan forge]

If u rly need tosave battery

[meager stream]

sell em all xD

[cyan forge]

But bruh

[orchid pilot]

I think 4.4 is pretty much the limit

[shadow void]

you can do any variation you want tbh

[sterile stratus]

no component no turrets

[nova osprey]

hmmm

[cyan forge]

If u make med instead of heto, not rly

[nova osprey]

[sterile stratus]

uh

[orchid pilot]

oh

[cyan forge]

But if u make heto and the new event stuff n such

[orchid pilot]

I guess I didn't consider not making heto lmao

[cyan forge]

Then yeah, it is way below lol

[orchid pilot]

that doesn't seem like a viable option to me LOL

in terms of prepping for event and future

[meager stream]

Umm about factory event 2nd exchange, will add these items

[cyan forge]

I mean, heto sells the same as med in value

So i can understand if sumone prefer that

[shadow void]

untill i've got 68k of Heto parts/comps i'm not goin back to YazhenA

[cyan forge]

Cos med is also way more compact

No acid bs

[orchid pilot]

of course, but I assume most people hanging out in this channel or asking questions here are interested in futureproofing

[nova osprey]

watch test area have new depot node for 80k storage

[orchid pilot]

and it seems on the nose that future assembly will be heto and hxir based

[cyan forge]

Yeah

[uncut briar]

i also hoarding hetonite parts, bottle and powder

[cyan forge]

Indeed

[orchid pilot]

i'm pissed, got carried away chatting with yall and forgot to turn my heto line back into parts

[cyan forge]

Am at 0 xira gourd/min and i don't even clear shop rn lol

[orchid pilot]

capped depot and shut down my cupr for almost 2h

[nova osprey]

same

[upper fiber]

you guys got the medal before trimmed one yet

[cyan forge]

I ran out of space in my favtory cos i out dead stashes for my hxira

[shadow void]

same, jade's gonna carry hard

[green sleet]

Man theyd better be giving us a mountain of cupri with all this hetonite bs

[meager stream]

oroberyl is top priority xD

[viscid plover]

backtrack who you were chatting with and block them

[nova osprey]

no we going all in on jade

[uncut briar]

||all thanks to leeks, now we wait for leeks jade gourd to carry||

[orchid pilot]

tbh fully on me for not setting an alarm

[cyan forge]

I wonder how slow jade's production gonna be tho

Cos if it's not eating hxira 30/min, i'd be pissed