aic-factory

[marble yarrow]

(mine changes everyday 😭 )

always has been

[mystic glen]

I future proof for the next day

[subtle finch]

ugh, i can't make 1.5 sc bat easily
i either need a 12/min limiter or overflow valve

[mystic glen]

then I change my mind, unless I don't

[subtle finch]

why is 1.25 so much easier

[mystic glen]

hmm, I was under the impression that by the time we are done with wuling they would all be high purity

[marble yarrow]

"1 pump 3 miners coz in version 1.2 they will become high purity"

version 1.2 : 💀

[tall tangle]

switch time

[shadow void]

Check V4 and see

[nova osprey]

v4 still has space

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/todo-clap-jujutsu-kaisen-todo-gif-20911000

[marble yarrow]

i will only have 120k heavy xira once phase 2 arrives

and 120k heto

[nova osprey]

damn you're far more prepped

i got 80k

[shadow void]

Your avatar changed, did you evolve?

[marble yarrow]

i am the bone of my sword

[nova osprey]

lmao wait a second

[subtle finch]

oh i think we're close when phase 2 hits

im at around 117k i think

[uneven aspen]

should be under 3 days for asia player

[subtle finch]

maybe i need to actually use those 12 normal xiranite to catch up

[shadow void]

3d 10 hours last i check for NA

or me atleast

[nova osprey]

I am the core of my AIC
Hetonite is my body and xiranite is my blood
I have created a thousand gourds
Unknown to sleep
Nor known to sanity

[oblique slate]

Can I transfer items between wiling and valley 4 without doing 50 at a time I want to bring my 8K sand flower to wuling

[subtle finch]

reactors die when they are clogged

[shadow void]

I've literally changed nothing with my setup, just added that little 1.5/m Xiranite Gourd vestigial thing to suck up the xiranite that the 1.25/m SC battery dosent

[mystic glen]

you can select batch move when picking an item, fills your bag in one click

[nova osprey]

yeah happened once to me and i was like

wait

you edited it xD

lmao

[subtle finch]

anyone got a compact 12/min limiter? doesnt matter if it has a loader

[amber imp]

this good?

[nova osprey]

I am the core of my AIC
Sandleaf is my body and xiranite is my blood
I have created a thousand gourds
Unknown to sleep
Nor known to sanity
Have withstood the pain to create many components
Yet, my operators will never have enough gears
So as I pray, Unlimited Factory does not Work

updated

xD

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[marble yarrow]

i am the sand of my leaf

[cinder sun]

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

[shadow void]

Dies from cringe i'm crying

[nova osprey]

i should have done sand leaf tbh

lmao

there fixed it

[foggy iris]

Yo i need help

[nova osprey]

i think i need help

[shadow void]

Well my eyes are good and watered

[foggy iris]

Xiranite relay finished and i have 0 xiranites cant make more

[nova pilot]

Call 911

[shadow void]

Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!!

[foggy iris]

Stay down

[nova pilot]

Stop resisting!

[marble yarrow]

switcherooo

[amber imp]

Im doing this rn... pain

[shadow void]

||https://youtu.be/KwaCJfGWyU0?t=15||

OOF

[nova osprey]

could you take a screenshot, not sure what your problem is

[foggy iris]

Everything

Not enough power not enough relays

Bp from system too fkin big for xiranite

[shadow void]

oh my god, I just thought. When I plan out these hydrorigs I need to plan for max purity

[dense blade]

what cmd is this lmao

[cinder sun]

Custom Commands

131 commands available. Type .trigger in any channel to use one.

`.blueprint`

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`.boanoite`

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`.bomb`

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`.bomdia`

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`.buenasnoches`

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`.buenastardes`

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`.buenosdias`

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`.cantread`

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[shadow void]

.trigger

that didnt do anything

[marble yarrow]

.cantread

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1475997022615113900/cantread.gif?ex=699f84d8&is=699e3358&hm=f283e9f64e009c1dbd4556362116e277bbaaf6f50e83895e5c641e76003299d2&=&width=1080&height=728

[dense blade]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-arknights-endfield-gif-17735632637872025915

[shadow void]

yeah but noone put .cantread*

[vast iron]

they should add a logistics thats splitter converger with 2 inputs and 2 outputs

[nova pilot]

@cinder sun

[vast iron]

that would be really nice ngl

[nova osprey]

you won't be able to copy until youve upgraded your aic area a bit first

[dense blade]

for gas

[nova osprey]

and then you should use batteries from v4 to power wuling

[foggy iris]

How can i farm leaves infinitely?

[lusty violet]

grow trees

[upper fiber]

plant loop

[vast iron]

i mightve done a thing...

[nova pilot]

You loop back 1 Planting Unit output into the Seeding Unit

[dense blade]

they should add logistics with more functions but take up more spaces so the old ones are still relevant

[foggy iris]

Ffs

Y the fk is this shyt mandatory

Im so close to quitting

[nova osprey]

[dense blade]

just use a blueprint

[foggy iris]

I CANT

[dense blade]

look for those bite sized ones

[nova pilot]

Just do the main quests, lay the rigs or pipes for the mines, then you can find lots of shareable bps here

[dense blade]

not full factories

[foggy iris]

WHERE R THOSE?

[nova osprey]

did you do anything on valley 4 or no

factory wise

[nova pilot]

Modular

[foggy iris]

I told u 3 3 2

[nova osprey]

I wasn't there for that

[foggy iris]

Just told u

[nova osprey]

oh ive been dipping in and out of chat mb

[dense blade]

what are you trying to make rn

xiranite?

[foggy iris]

Yes

[nova pilot]

Water

[foggy iris]

Infinite amount

[nova osprey]

if you search up xiranite in the blueprints channel there are quite a few single line xiranite builds

[dense blade]

EFO012I456o94I8EieIOo

[hidden hornet]

Welp my factory died while I slept rip my gourd output

[dense blade]

have this lying around

it’s one set up each

[nova osprey]

oof

[dense blade]

for now just put down as many as your aic level allows you ig

[nova osprey]

this keeps happening

[hidden hornet]

Got a whole 200 out b4 it died too

So it’s really bad

[dense blade]

for each forge you need one fluid pump sourcing water

in the bp just connect one pump to each pipe splitter

[hidden hornet]

How do I restart my factory with no batteries

[dense blade]

add yazhen/jincao in the seeding unit next to the planter with a pipe linked to it, and sand leaf in the other seeding unit

[foggy iris]

R u serious?

[dense blade]

what happened

oh wait

whoops wrong code

[nova pilot]

Manually send HC Valley Batts and have as many Power Banks running as you need

[twilit shard]

[hidden hornet]

Oofda

[nova pilot]

Are you still using a modified version of the symmetrical one?

[hidden hornet]

I have legit no batteries

[foggy iris]

Get from grocery store

[dense blade]

mb

EFO01o083e9i806iuIieO

[hidden hornet]

Hahahaha

[dense blade]

[hidden hornet]

Yes but I gutted the interior

[nova pilot]

Try breaking loot boxes in the overworld

[hidden hornet]

Oooh I forgot about that

[shadow void]

Here we go again. Jingyu Valley Hydro Mining Rig placement

[hidden hornet]

I only need five to kickstart it so we Gucci

No more gourds for me tho

[nova pilot]

There's at least some HC V Batts near the Depot Node in Origin Lodespring top right-ish

[foggy iris]

U sent same dam code

[dense blade]

the other one had a refiner set to water

by accident

[foggy iris]

Bruv not enough space

[nova pilot]

Try Dano's codes for Na/Eu, if it gets too complicated

But actually, it will change again soon

The whole Depot Unloader line for Originium and Sandleaf is moved by 1 tile below too

[dense blade]

you know you can move the pac right

the big square thingy

[foggy iris]

U CAN?

[dense blade]

yea…

[foggy iris]

Say that ffs

Finally i can do something

[shadow void]

#aic-factory message

[nova pilot]

Regional Development Level 20

[foggy iris]

Btw the planting and shyt is i cluded in bp @dense blade

[dense blade]

yea you gotta fill those

[dense blade]

^

and msg below that

[foggy iris]

Just put 1 and it make infinite?

[shadow void]

kinda cant make sense of the image you showed, plus at max RDL those low puritys will be high, changing how many pumps you need (just 1 extra really) but it messes with your pumps and pipes optimal setup

[dense blade]

not 1

at least like 10

it’s gotta loop

[foggy iris]

Yaya i have alot

Piked those shitws from main mission all over

How to apply? This good?

[dense blade]

I suggest having the pipe splitter face the side with the water source

[final sierra]

oh

[foggy iris]

Ayt

Do i use belt and connect stash to it? Or no need?

[dense blade]

it’s already included

[foggy iris]

Like stash to pac

[dense blade]

protocol stash “bluetooths” it to depot

[subtle finch]

#1 pipe hater suggesting pipes smh

[dense blade]

I hate them still for a different reason

[lofty lodge]

fixed it.... turn out 1 of my forge lost a single conveyor into the forge and stop all the process

[shadow void]

Wuling City Hydro Mining Rig placement

[dense blade]

it’s genuinely so stupid how they bug out sometimes when placed via blueprint but fix itself permanently if you replace them afterwards

[hidden hornet]

The first four word were all that was needed

[shadow void]

Feels bad for the person that wants to pull pipes all over Wuling City just to save 10 power

[foggy iris]

Fk im missing 10 carbon

[dense blade]

it’s not like belt priority where the most recent logistic of the same type gets priority, the whole idea of pipe each being like their own fluid tanks makes the shit so buggy at times

[foggy iris]

Where can i buy 10 carbons?

[dense blade]

make them

[foggy iris]

Tru

[dense blade]

do a planter loop

[river wadi]

jincao -> refining unit = 2 carbon

[bold linden]

what is the difference between the relay towers and the xiranite relays also the pylons

[dense blade]

send into refiner

two outputs

[river wadi]

xiranite relays connect via bluetooth while for relay towers you gotta drag power manually

[dense blade]

put 2 outputs for jincao/yazhen

from refiner

[shadow void]

You can save 50 power, but in Wuling you may be knocking on some limits already. So its 40 Pwr saved for me

sorry for the long reach of that ping.

[dense blade]

oh the person I know who did this did it last patch

before the ore purity increase

so you save less now ig

[river wadi]

that never happened i think

[shadow void]

just gonna do it with Max purity in mind. Did it just so i have a plan in mind prior to unpluging miners

[winged oriole]

B-But I get to delete some pylons as well

[dense blade]

360 to 480 ori

[river wadi]

oh before 1.2?

[dense blade]

or am I slow

hold on when did we get 480 ori

[river wadi]

there was 480 originium in 1.1 as well

[dense blade]

[river wadi]

thats how we could make 12/min sc wuling bats

[dense blade]

or maybe is it bc pumps in marker stone is sharing extra water too

idk

[dense blade]

yea Idk what I was thinking about

[shadow void]

probably RDL goes up, we get higher purity when Test Area opens, and Originium goes up

[foggy iris]

Fkin water needed

[dense blade]

30 more ferrium probably

from that single ferrium spot with 6

3 of them are still low

[foggy iris]

Wait i need refining unit to make carbon right

?

[dense blade]

yea

don’t tell me you don’t even have origocrusr

[foggy iris]

Does not work

[shadow void]

yeah, I can't look to V4 for precedent on the gap in purity increase between RDL levels, but there are more to go. Plus all of V4 is High Purity

[dense blade]

what

turn it off water mode

[dense blade]

^

[foggy iris]

Nvm works now

[river wadi]

you have to discover the recipe first and then it will show up

[foggy iris]

FKIN HELL LOW POWER

495/350

[dense blade]

make some batteries

[hidden hornet]

Anyone have a map of breakables?

[dense blade]

bandaid rn with originium ore or steal batteries from valley

[river wadi]

SC wuling battery

[craggy oyster]

Been searching for this too. I ended up marking every time i find one

[dense blade]

he’s gotta start with lc

[foggy iris]

Yaya gonna make in diff pac

[shadow void]

I've been running on HCV for like 2 patchs now

madness

[dense blade]

I don’t think bro’s ready with understanding crucibles yet

[river wadi]

all you need is to feed sewage, xiranite, water and ferrium powder into a expanded crucible and bam xircon

[foggy iris]

Wats crucib.... Wat

[river wadi]

reactor crucible makes many advanced items in wuling

[dense blade]

well the msg below this should prove my point

[river wadi]

tru

[dense blade]

let him take it slow

[craggy oyster]

imagine a few more years when they introducing like 200 more formular using gas and everything.Newbie gonna cry ahahaha

[foggy iris]

Oh the one item where u can make ton of shites?

[dense blade]

facility

[foggy iris]

Yaya that

I did the bp of it

[river wadi]

you input solids and liquids to react them together

[dense blade]

you combined liquids + items to make more liquids/items

and you treat/purify waste

[foggy iris]

How to open bp quests?

[craggy oyster]

F6

[river wadi]

press `

[foggy iris]

Nvm found it

[dense blade]

the dailies button and click training

or aic

[river wadi]

by the way if you dont want to spend 3 hours doing all the simulations theres a button to instantly complete them

[dense blade]

ngl the tutorials are booty

[river wadi]

i completed manually before i figured out you could just skip to the rewards

[green sleet]

Yeah but the little checkmark isnt the same if you do it that way

[foggy iris]

Wats the sim training i need?

[dense blade]

I completed them manually before they added the skip button

[river wadi]

crucible

[foggy iris]

For batteries?

[river wadi]

first figure out how to make xiranite

forge of the sky

[foggy iris]

I need batteries to make them

[dense blade]

or ig understand the formula

[river wadi]

just burn originium for now

[dense blade]

put like

10 thermals down

[river wadi]

or go around wuling and hit some crates to find some batteries

[dense blade]

and funnel originium into them

[foggy iris]

LC OR SC battery?

[dense blade]

one output split to 4

[dense blade]

lc first

[green sleet]

Start with L.

[river wadi]

Lc to level up your outpost then when the outpost accepts sc transition

[dense blade]

I don’t think you are ready for the headache

[foggy iris]

Oh cool alrdy have bo

[river wadi]

speedrun the campaign until you unlock expanded crucibles and then that makes it way easier to build xircon

[dense blade]

look at the dense originium powder formula

and try to make it

I would just do the battery production guides

and the facility ones

[foggy iris]

Ffs i need xiranite for bettery ffs

[dense blade]

rest should be very intuitive once you understand those

[green sleet]

Thats why they said start with orig for power

[river wadi]

alternatively just copy and paste a blueprint, input the materials and forget about it

[green sleet]

Or bring bats from Valley IV

[foggy iris]

Ayt got power

Time to make xiras

Wat to put in seed piking units?

[green sleet]

Wuling plants preferrably.

[shadow void]

Sandleaf and Yahzen

Yahzen for carbon, or Jincao

[foggy iris]

Normal yazhen or thorned?

[shadow void]

normal

The rare variant can't be used in machines

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense blade]

thorned yaz or fluff jincao is for handcraft meds

[foggy iris]

And sandleaf?

[river wadi]

remember to add water for yazhen planters and turn off water for sandleaf planters

[shadow void]

Woulda been cooler if the rare variants took a liquid other than water to grow

[dense blade]

source of all life in talos II

[hard radish]

How much money would we have to raise to get them to add the ability to flip pipe ports on facilities because it has ruined everything beautiful

[river wadi]

they can grow in eco farm

[green sleet]

Never understood why they chose to do it that way. Is it because their crafted items are too good?

[river wadi]

maybe since yazhen spray L can heal over 6000 hp each time

[shadow void]

you cant grow the thorny variants themselves, only normal variant with a percent of it comes back as thorny

[dense blade]

I just get the meds from operator gifts lol

[river wadi]

also the new marker stone area spawns billions of throny yazhen and fluffed jincao

[green sleet]

Ah. Yeah its cuz its too op. That makes a lot of sense

[dense blade]

with how easy endgame is rn you don’t even need meds

[river wadi]

umbral monument literally bans tacticals as well

[shadow void]

Sandleaf is for shredding, you get 3 powder per leaf and its used in almost everything

[dense blade]

cc should too

[thorny galleon]

Hm.. how do you guys make the xircon all in one expanded crucible? If so, don't you have to deal with extra waste water produced from the process? Unless you're not pulling in waste water from another source..

[green sleet]

Its not a perpetual cycle of fluids. You still need to pump in more waste

[dense blade]

fluid supply it out

[foggy iris]

@dense blade i put the any leafs in the bp u sent?

[dense blade]

that facility exists

[foggy iris]

Dont matter which is which?

[thorny galleon]

Don't you worry about pulling out too much wastewater though?

[river wadi]

you need to input 15/min sewage and also export 30/min inert effluent

[dense blade]

it matters

[foggy iris]

Fk

[dense blade]

yazhen/jincao in the one with water going into it

[green sleet]

Nope. My waste is also getting funneled into heavy xiranite so its no issue

[dense blade]

sandleaf in the other

[foggy iris]

Welp fked it

[dense blade]

the other is a chain of 2 planter a d one seeder

[river wadi]

Sandleaf needs 2 planters

[dense blade]

[bright zodiac]

you can make 15/m xircon with 1 solo expanded crucible, but it need sewage kickstart, it also need 1 water, thats all

[dense blade]

the other one is outside his image up top

oh nvm

I am blind

wuling plants need water

but they produce double the carbon

[shadow void]

Steel Part/Bottle, Cryston Bottle, Every battery, Process further for Xiranite, Xiranite Comps, V4 med, V4 med

[dense blade]

don’t use citrone or buckflower anymore

but you need sandleaf

[green sleet]

My setup only needs 2 cuprium lines. Never clogs, never an issue. Nets me 60 xircon a min too

[thorny galleon]

Wait, so you only need a sewage kickstart? No way it produces enough waste water to keep itself going

[dense blade]

that’s why cuprium exist

[river wadi]

you need to put in 15/min sewage, no more and no less

[dense blade]

and rn you treat the sewage

until purification node comes out

[river wadi]

but thats a thing

[dense blade]

test area

[thorny galleon]

Oh i see, so you do need to input .5 sewage

[foggy iris]

Shid i reset the bp?

[shadow void]

i've got my 272,000 sewage in bottles ready to go for that Purification Node

[green sleet]

Yeah. So 1 cupri line can feed 2 crucis

[river wadi]

what is purification node

[hidden hornet]

Can you send me a SS of your map

[dense blade]

like a depot node

upgradable

[river wadi]

what does it do

[dense blade]

you get free effluent from sewage

[dense blade]

or inert

[craggy oyster]

just rmb 0.5 Fe powder 0.5 waste 1 xir 1 water.

[thorny galleon]

With sewage input, you produce 15/min xircon with one expanded storage, right?

[dense blade]

I think

[river wadi]

yea

you also need to put in water, xiranite and ferrium powder

[shadow void]

Sewage In / Effluent out unsure if Xircon or Inert Xircon

[bright zodiac]

with purification, you probably still need a little bit sewage, i forgot

but most of the time, you will do 2 expanded to make 30/m xircon (only 1 will make xircon and the other one supply effluent)

[river wadi]

take out the inert effluent

with 12/min sc wuling batteries you have enough inert effluent to purify into another 30/min xircon effluent

[thorny galleon]

Let me math
If I do only regular crucibles, then I need 5x crucibles for a full xircon line. That's 250 power.
If I do expanded crucibles.. ah, that's 2x expanded crucibles at 200 power total. I see, definitely more efficient regardless

A surplus of sewage would clog the system.. hrm

[green sleet]

Yeah. And with 4 of them, you can fully run a heavy xiranite line from refining the inert

[river wadi]

just use 1 refining unit split evenly into both crucibles

[foggy iris]

Ok i reset and put the yazhen on water based and sand on other

Now i sleep?

[river wadi]

check if you are getting a steady 30/min xiranite

[foggy iris]

Nothing in forge yet

[dense blade]

what bout the water

also set up two of them

might as well

unless you still have power issues

[bright zodiac]

back in the days, u use 10crucible and 6water treatment for 60/m xircon
(4cuprium line worth of sewage)

now you only need 4 expanded and 1 purification for 60/m xircon + 6/m heavyX
(2cuprium line worth of sewage and no need water treatment)

[river wadi]

for your sandleaf you need 1 seed picking unit feeding into 1 planting units, and one of the planting unit feeds back into the seed picking unit and the other gives you your extra sandleaf you shred

[foggy iris]

Some stuff halted for some reason

[uneven aspen]

can't tell if 7.5/m is working or not

[bright zodiac]

because 2 sandleaf planter ratio works for 3 sky forge

so 1 sandleaf is kinda overflowing juat for 1 sky forge

[foggy iris]

Its @dense blade bp

[dense blade]

just temp

[bright zodiac]

1 sky forge need 2grinding
1 sandleaf supply 3 grinding (overflowing "1")

3 skt forge need 6 grinding
2sandleaf supply 6 grinding (match)

[dense blade]

also upgrade your aic area

it’s only 20k bills

so you can actually place bigger blueprints

this is just quick xiranite for you to start making stuff

[craggy oyster]

not enough water so the plant not work at 100% therefore not enough carbon powder ig

[river wadi]

you only need 1 pump per xiranite line tho

[dense blade]

nothing is coming outta your yazhen

[craggy oyster]

sandleaf will be more than enough and it has nothing to do with other machine halted

[dense blade]

see if something is stuck

[craggy oyster]

that the only reason why those machine iss "zzz"

[dense blade]

click on that refining unit

show the interface

is it on water

[foggy iris]

No water coming

[green sleet]

I call this abomination "Bought out by Amazon"

[dense blade]

turn it off water mode

it doesn’t need water

water mode is for refining cuprium

[foggy iris]

Its moving now

[dense blade]

for quick stock bills

do those photo shoot quests

[foggy iris]

I do

[dense blade]

and just level up your aic area

[foggy iris]

Connect to pac?

[dense blade]

don’t have to

you can if you wanna save 5 power

protocol stash sends it to storage

[foggy iris]

Im get 12/min xiras

[dense blade]

it should be 30/min

[foggy iris]

Says 12

[dense blade]

one forge makes 30/min

[green sleet]

Give it a min to stabalise?

[green sleet]

It sometimes has to build up to the #

[foggy iris]

Nvm its increasing

15 now

[dense blade]

that’s still not 30

[craggy oyster]

can u send more ss?

[dense blade]

oh ik why

do you still have sandleaf from the mess up in the refiner

[foggy iris]

Yes

[dense blade]

so it’s half production

[foggy iris]

I put it alrdy

[dense blade]

wait a little

[foggy iris]

Meh 15 for me is alot

[dense blade]

that’s not the point…

[foggy iris]

Still 15 ur bp sux

[craggy oyster]

soon enough u will lack of it

[dense blade]

genuinely dunno what to say atp

[foggy iris]

[craggy oyster]

check if ur zhazen output is a constant line

[dense blade]

it’s two sets of planters and a pump

[craggy oyster]

bro????

[foggy iris]

Wat?

[green sleet]

One of your refiners isnt hooked up

[dense blade]

wait

[dense blade]

oh

[craggy oyster]

it's not conneceted

[foggy iris]

Dam u piper

It is tho

[craggy oyster]

no, the refiner after the grinder

[bright zodiac]

its doing wifi

dont worry

[dense blade]

move the pylon down

[bright zodiac]

[dense blade]

then connect it

[bright zodiac]

can actually shift to the left better

[green sleet]

Downloaded a bluetooth conveyor mod

[dense blade]

yea but

[foggy iris]

Make lines

[dense blade]

I don’t think telling him to do that would

be wise

not that one

[dense blade]

he circled it here

[bright zodiac]

the left side has quite a space to shift and fit

[dense blade]

I don’t think he’d understand how to shift it by 1 tho

[bright zodiac]

[dense blade]

it’s a temp set up so stash afterwards

and replace with a modular lc one

[foggy iris]

Ok?

[dense blade]

yes

[craggy oyster]

good good

should be 30 now

[foggy iris]

25/min now

[bright zodiac]

instead of shifting, it deleting pylon

[shadow void]

Whats better in this situation for reaching 2 nodes here. 1 Conduit line or a long pipe?

[bright zodiac]

[foggy iris]

Maybe wait a bit?

[dense blade]

pipe looks funny

so pipe

[craggy oyster]

yeah u can check visually

[shadow void]

Pipe long

[craggy oyster]

no need that shitty AIC report

[shadow void]

have 3 segments

[foggy iris]

Ok shows 30/min now

[shadow void]

3 pipes and 2 logistics units vs 2 conduits

[foggy iris]

Mission accomplished

Ty all

Wasted so much time

[shadow void]

[dense blade]

I suggest you read through the formulas

[foggy iris]

Now wat?

Make batteries?

[dense blade]

then try make batteries

lc first

[foggy iris]

Or farm mor ores?

[shadow void]

Farm ores

[dense blade]

honestly this if you still have empty ones

[foggy iris]

Needed relays

[shadow void]

and i mean place miners, dont manually farm

[green sleet]

Its always a good idea to place as many miners as you can

[foggy iris]

Didnt know that

[shadow void]

[upper fiber]

time to bring whole stacks of bomb to mine

[bright zodiac]

[shadow void]

I'm goin conduit, hope i dont regret it

[bright zodiac]

well, cant blame

bcs u can clear v4 without touching aic at all.
in wuling, ppl will eventuay need xiranite gear

[shadow void]

No regrats

[lofty lodge]

hmm this might work. Balanced xiranite and heavy

[green sleet]

Conduits are amazing. I use em everywhere

[craggy oyster]

damn

[shadow void]

Pipes doing weird shenanigans

[craggy oyster]

imagine we have to manually farm ores

[glass ocean]

Is there something wrong with my hetonite line, or is fluctuation normal

[green sleet]

The endfielders yearn for the mines

[shadow void]

we did, for all of like 5 seconds

Just to see what it felt like for non-endfielders to mine.

[dense blade]

if the rates were good it’s lwk worth

they should allow us to assign operators to mining

[shadow void]

how much is one bomb in materials and battery power

[dense blade]

.bomb

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/endministrator-endmin-arknights-endfield-bomb-gif-3801526505005205420

[craggy oyster]

look normal but u can use extend crus for both reaction, save 50 power, also 1 purifiers can take up to 4 cruribles. the more crucibles the faster u produce hetonite

[lofty lodge]

that's genshin impact

[bright zodiac]

thats correct bcs thats just 2 cuprium powder

6 cuprium will give you 22.5/m max right now

[glass ocean]

I’m not at a high enough dev level to go for 3 lines yet, I don’t think

I’ll have to check my ore production

[upper fiber]

you destroy the yazhenA

[glass ocean]

I aint even running it atm

[bright zodiac]

u supposs to have 120 cuprium from qingbo and 60 from marker stone

[green sleet]

Felt that. Havent seen a syringe since hetonite dropped.

[craggy oyster]

for some reason ppl still wanna make syringes in my community tho

[bright zodiac]

i think the math is, they are similar in terms of bill

[dense blade]

it’s the same

syringe just doesn’t use ferrium

[green sleet]

Huh. More power to em, but i like my 75% efficient line

[bright zodiac]

👌

[dense blade]

tho ore value is the same

so you can use those ferrium for something else

[lofty lodge]

Good reason to craft syringe, new map gives alot of good plant like thorny and fluffy version. Just need to set steel bottle farm

[craggy oyster]

heto part = syringes A+ Syringes C in tearm of bills

[shadow void]

Oh man, realizing hydro rigs dont need a pylon, now i gotta rethink the grid. . never ending story

[swift steppe]

Pretty sure that's normal, Hetonite wobbles without full speed production

[green sleet]

Wait... they just take water?

[shadow void]

Just water

[craggy oyster]

yup lol

[green sleet]

Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[dense blade]

do you have 2 cuprium outputs turning into powder

[glass ocean]

Yeah

[dense blade]

it’s normal

[glass ocean]

Thats all to one heto line

[shadow void]

only gotta worry about in in Wuling and Jingyu valley atleast

[dense blade]

30 cuprium is 3.75 hetonite

[green sleet]

Yeah. Thank god for that 😂

[craggy oyster]

and it can even mine ori/Fe too. So any veins that have more than 2 ore spot is worth using hydro rig

[iron stratus]

it feels to me that originium makes up the bulk of the power in the batteries so why cant we use straight dense ori powder in thermal banks

[swift steppe]

Eating protocol capacity has been my main reason for still using electric mining rigs

[iron stratus]

electric pylons and relay towers dont use protocol capacity right

[swift steppe]

Wuling ones eat like 1 each.

[craggy oyster]

if it within the base range, it will

not the buildable zone, the zone showed in the map

[shadow void]

1 each

pipes are pretty neat in that you can drag them across spaces that conduits couldnt reach

[iron stratus]

how do you do it

[shadow void]

red lines are how you'd drag a conduit, but the line would break, but with a pipe you can go that distance and still connect them so long as the path is clear when you are connecting the pipes

[iron stratus]

strange

i could stand seeing pipes all over my map though

[shadow void]

Yellow and blue are the only long jumps. the other 2 pumps to hit where yellow is on the bottom and bottom right

[iron stratus]

isnt yellow supposed to go to the bottom right after the bottom left node

[dense blade]

I think you can hook onto a conduit and then tp

[dense blade]

and it won’t break

unless that’s just in the aic

[iron stratus]

i havent gotten that to work since 1.1 released

[dense blade]

oh ok

[shadow void]

i could conduit from the bottom yellow up to near the top

then pipe it over, but i guess i'm looking at protocol capacity

i'm only 136/210

may do that

or i'll try atleast

[iron stratus]

too much water to the top right

[shadow void]

Hmm?

[iron stratus]

and if you have a whole pump on the bottom right that's a waste too

let me check mine rq

[shadow void]

I'm optimizing for high purity

its not atm

[marble yarrow]

you can tp conduit btw from the top mineral

[iron stratus]

ah

yeah bottom right and left uses 2 pumps fully, and top right and left uses 1.5 pumps

so that's the split you should do for simplicity

[shadow void]

the one where blue and yellow meet?

there are 14 nodes, at high purity i need a pump per 3

5 pumps total, 1 on the bottom right

[shadow void]

man thats trippy

[subtle finch]

i can finally stop selling my batteries

[dim swallow]

How many gourds per second will match outpost bill production?

[valid gazelle]

ugh..

im doing 12/min which translate to 0.2 gourds per second

[pulsar cypress]

So, its already time to stop gourd selling and piling up bills again?

[dim swallow]

If ur interested in tcreds I wouldnt stop

[dim swallow]

Do we know bill production? Sorry big noob at this 😭

[pulsar cypress]

I mean to spam the 2nd phase items..

[shadow void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1499834839065428060/SPOILER_image.png?ex=69f63d8b&is=69f4ec0b&hm=49505ff9c3c58bafc7695693190dae299da01b6aa623ffed5006b43287d3bdbb&

[dim swallow]

Do points reset on phase 2?

[dim swallow]

This is great thanks

[valid gazelle]

press this button to find out

[pulsar cypress]

Iirc peps say, 2nd phase item more worth to sell than gourd?

[valid gazelle]

somethine about jade gourd ?

[bright zodiac]

more like you could gain faster fruit

[shadow void]

120bill/30cert, supposedly

for Jade Gourd

[subtle finch]

exactly 6.93 jade/min

[pulsar cypress]

Just wonder if it wise to just piling up the bill to almost max then spam sell 2nd phase item later..
Than spending this gourd..

Im bad at math-ing this bill thing..

[bright zodiac]

but the battery.....

[subtle finch]

yes, since jade's efficiency is better for bills than normal gourd

[shadow void]

wish i knew what was in the Phase2 shop

[pulsar cypress]

Time to stop selling gourd then.
Let the bills piling up first..

[bright zodiac]

we will clear the shop eventually, so no need to worry

[shadow void]

clearing its not really what i'm concerned with, just the amount of certs needed.

I'd like to know that number

[bright zodiac]

[pulsar cypress]

Will just recycle the 30/mins extra xir to hxira for now..

[bright zodiac]

oh i thought u plan to stop at exact point

[shadow void]

If thats all thats needed, i'd love to know

[subtle finch]

the 100x 500tcred i think is 400k certs in total
im confident the shop wouldnt cost over 5 mil certs which is only around 42k heavy

[pulsar cypress]

No.. My points is, resources spend for clearing bills comparison between this gourd and jade gourd.
If jade gourd can clean up while consuming less resources to make, then will just use that.
Since its only materials in the shop, not really important.
So can save up some production items for extra bills.

[shadow void]

what point in me store 148k Hvy/Heto?

need shiny thing

[pulsar cypress]

Spam making heto comp.. XD

[subtle finch]

i think it's said multiple times casuals are expected to clear this event/shop/medals
going beyond is just for points bragging rights

[shadow void]

May come back to that, and maybe the Hvy will be used for HC battery

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Either hxira powder, or hxira xircon like for hc..

[bright zodiac]

hmm also, i think if we hoard the EXCESS gourd, it will eventually converted into some bills when event end? regardless of outpost stock bill supply

[subtle finch]

it's based on outpost bill supply, it's been confirmed multiple times
it's just that english localization is bad

[shadow void]

at event end, gourds are auto converted into Stockbills/Certs, anything over the outpost* stockbill limit is negated and turned into more certs

[bright zodiac]

oh shi

[shadow void]

see what i did there

[bright zodiac]

[pulsar cypress]

Its a waste to stock it. Coz cant spend em bit by bit..
Normal items better for long time bills trading..

[bright zodiac]

definitely hoarding wasnt a good idea

[shadow void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan forge]

Why tho?

[bright zodiac]

but we did anyway

[shadow void]

well, the only thing it did was store materials, now i gotta blow it all

[bright zodiac]

gonna need to burn this stashes heavyX soon

[pulsar cypress]

Just for fun.. XD

[bright zodiac]

🤝

[cyan forge]

Do u guys reckon 70k hxira in stock would be enuf?

[bright zodiac]

definitely

[shadow void]

not interested in making number high for nothing, i can calculate what i would of made

[cyan forge]

I don't feel like making less than 12/min battery

[pulsar cypress]

Nope..
*look away

[bright zodiac]

it should be smthg you could produce within less than a week and should be able to clear it

[cyan forge]

[bright zodiac]

else, casual aic player be like

[pulsar cypress]

Im dumb so just piling it up..

[bright zodiac]

[pulsar cypress]

[cyan forge]

Actually

[subtle finch]

i can't really blame everyone for misunderstanding the fineprint, i thought it's bill cap too

[cyan forge]

Huh... I might have more than 70k

[pulsar cypress]

Me already dumping hxira to v4 since long ago..

[bright zodiac]

then afk time

[cyan forge]

There's no reason to make more than what's necessary then eh...

[shadow void]

key point

[pulsar cypress]

30k+ in v4 iirc, 60k+ in wuling..

[cyan forge]

I just put mine in dead stashes

There's prolly 10k in dead stashes and another 10 in my v4 rn

[bright zodiac]

welp, time to fill in premium heavyX

[pulsar cypress]

*just think of it as early investment for future items..

[shadow void]

TLDR, make normal production, and save for just max potential outpost bills by selling Jade Gourds in Phase 2

[sonic summit]

soo i shouldnt stock up raw heto ?

[hoary crag]

lol

[shadow void]

Literally no reason to make Xiranite gourds

[bright zodiac]

dw, old ss, i still have 60k heavyx + 50k stash

[hoary crag]

I actually started producing hetonite parts again

to slow down hetonite stock up

[subtle finch]

that's why it's called a flex, you're throwing away millions worth of products for 1 screenshot

[hoary crag]

lmao

[pulsar cypress]

Same.. Heto part and gear..
Coz the heto rock already overflowing..

[sonic summit]

fak i already transfering 60k raw heto to valley

[shadow void]

I'll just have AI fake a SS with my own predicted numbers

[hoary crag]

I already have 80k raw heto in valley 😭

and 48k h-xir

I have around 10-15k h-xir in wuling last night

idk how many I have now

shouldn't be a lot since I'm only running it at 3/min

[subtle finch]

i also complained before 14m bills for the event isnt much
it would at least let others afford the tower and chubby lung while still clearing the bill shop

why they gotta be so stingy

[bright zodiac]

event said, outpost bill get SIGNIFICANT boost regeneration, but

[hoary crag]

'significant' = 10%

I mean tbf

[bright zodiac]

i think it was like 5%

[subtle finch]

oh also, 40% next phase

[bright zodiac]

its really tilting me, the word they choose

[hoary crag]

even 2-3% can be significant in some research contexts

[shadow void]

no savings, you can make the 130k gourds needed for max stockbills with 10.6/m Hvy Xiranite

[hoary crag]

[sonic summit]

bruv

btw when test site updated again ?

[hoary crag]

14

or 15

forgor

[sonic summit]

2 week..

[hoary crag]

but should be around that time

[sonic summit]

man i wonder if the massive treatment in new map will give use effluent if we feed sewage in there?

[shadow void]

for me, NA, atleast

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1499932909795278878/image.png?ex=69f698e1&is=69f54761&hm=5be9a0dc6287a3c8f2ccafcbaf2128bcaff12127a55c1990eeefb06ad9f0ce83&

[nova osprey]

i hope so

damn discord buggy as hell today

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-get-stickbugged-lol-get-stick-bugged-stick-bugged-bee-swarm-simulator-gif-26230223

[sonic summit]

yeah i just want to know if that only remove sewage or it can give effluent output too rn we can only treat 4 inert to get effuent

[shadow void]

3 in 1 out, Sewage in , Eff out

[bright zodiac]

making eff out of sewage

[shadow void]

maybe not all 3 at the start and upgradable like the other things we upgrade via stockbills

[bright zodiac]

[sonic summit]

so we can make batteries with 1 extended crucible instead and the other effluent is from masive treatment in new map?

[bright zodiac]

what sorcery is this

[brittle sedge]

do we have the exact convert rate for sewage-eff?

[shadow void]

we'll know in ~12 days ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sonic summit]

we dont that why i ask

[brittle sedge]

damn

more planning

[shadow void]

well, i'ma plan for 6/s in, 2/s out, because thats what pipes support

[sonic summit]

just drop all sewage to conduits and just move it to new test map

[subtle finch]

3:1, judging from the image

[sonic summit]

1 conduit input can get 4 building worth of fluid so manifold can sustain 8 fluid worth of building right?

[bright zodiac]

yea supposedly you fill 4pump into manifold, yes

[sonic summit]

nice i never use manifold tbh

[shadow void]

1 manifold + 1 pipe

[bright zodiac]

it just save u 1 - 2 splitter in specific scenario

[valid gazelle]

and converger

and being smaller

[subtle finch]

12 sewage, 4 effluent
i think there's only 11 sewage sources, its a mystery where is the last constant source

[brittle sedge]

and protocol space

[valid gazelle]

and it looks better

[sonic summit]

also it cost same protocol space as normal conduit

[bright zodiac]

imagine there is sewage pool in new map

[nova osprey]

i mean old one had, just not infinite

[shadow void]

man, seeing red things around the foundation of my factory is kinda stressful

[sonic summit]

still better than zzz

[valid gazelle]

at least its not 💤

[bright zodiac]

yea imagine if its infinite

its gonna change tons of aic stuff and what you can do

[nova osprey]

better than zenless zone zero indeed

[sonic summit]

at least make it so we can fill it back with sewage

[shadow void]

_> no clue, never played it. Guess it gives you guys ptsd

[bright zodiac]

or even dumping back to infinite sewage pool

[sonic summit]

i never play hoyo game

[bright zodiac]

[bright zodiac]

the hp sponge is giving me ptsd

[valid gazelle]

*dont like comparing games in general cuz its objective and everyone is free to have fun with what they like

[nova osprey]

i played genshin for a month then quit

hsr for 5 minutes then uninstalled

[valid gazelle]

man just the word sewage is giving me ptsd

[sonic summit]

i never even touch it

[valid gazelle]

[nova osprey]

i died during the tutorial ||of cringe||

[green sleet]

Where is this at? Havent seen yet

[bright zodiac]

its from the future

[green sleet]

O

[bright zodiac]

[magic geyser]

Question, I'm trying to make Hetonite, is there a way to make a priority pipe merger? Because if my math is right, I have excess acid and not sure the best way to get rid of it or how to use the byproduct first before pumps.

[shadow void]

Unreleased Test Area, coming May 14. Shown in the last devlog on their youtube channel

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-gif-26467646

[valid gazelle]

12 more days

[green sleet]

Gotcha. Thanks for the info, bb

[valid gazelle]

it is so loooong

[bright zodiac]

i dont even want to think about HC wuling

[valid gazelle]

i need a reason to rebuild my factory for the 5th time

[nova osprey]

im hoping the new purification nodes make it easier

[bright zodiac]

true

[sonic summit]

2 xircon + heto for hc wuling maybe

[shadow void]

also super annoying that these were struggling until stopped them and fully filled them with water

[valid gazelle]

if you are doing a chain of splitters... this is how they behave

quite annoying frankly

[bright zodiac]

heavyX + xircon

and some originiun shenanigans

maybe maybe... some liquid shi

[sonic summit]

well i am having fun making factory tbh

[nova osprey]

i wish i had more time to work on the factory but unfortunately don't

[shadow void]

was getting an error on the map, but prefilling fixed it, all pipes full and the pump is steady at 20-21

fear its gonna crash if i leave

[green sleet]

Ive gotten into the habit of filling the input pipe + machine to capacity to prevent those issues

[sonic summit]

even when i am not chaining spliter its sometime only fill 1 line first

[shadow void]

I understand why it would do that, but find it wholly annoying

[green sleet]

Agreed. Tis a design flaw

[valid gazelle]

      || 
      || 
     /||\
    //  \\
   //    \\
  //      \\ 
 //\\    //\\
//  \\  //  \\ 

^^ it behaves normally if you split it like this
but if you split it like this vv

||
||\\
|| \\
||   ======
||\\
|| \\
||   ======
||\\
|| \\
||   ======
||

oh boy........

it gets janky at the 3rd split

[storm garnet]

did anyone do the math for 12 forges?

[nova osprey]

indeed

[nova osprey]

I don't think we have math for 12 just yet bc we don't know how the new facilities work, much less the formula for HCW batts

[valid gazelle]

in a normal irl fluid motion.. the 3rd split should be the one with most pressure...

[green sleet]

Itll be janky unless all pipes and inputs are full + excess in the conduits if you use em.

[valid gazelle]

in this game its the opposite

[storm garnet]

true. i forgot we'll get extra xircon too

[nova osprey]

post gone

[valid gazelle]

eh cant see that

[valid gazelle]

what the hefck

[valid gazelle]

[nova osprey]

lmfao

[ruby sorrel]

expecting 4 forges just to make hxira to feed new area tbh

[green sleet]

Holy french, batman.

[storm garnet]

life must grow (old)

[shadow void]

yeah, you see the end alot quicker

[nova osprey]

honestly a great way to reduce interest in smoking but that's hilarious

[shadow void]

Lung Ender

[nova osprey]

[sonic summit]

it techically true tbh

[green sleet]

Reminds me of the guy who 3D printed a 500 cigarrette holder for his weapon

[valid gazelle]

rip Yan sisters

[shadow void]

LOL

[storm garnet]

let's say we get a lot of xircon effluent, then we use 4 forges for batteries, 4 for feeding another 2 for heavy xira, then there are 2 extra

[green sleet]

Huh?

[storm garnet]

we might get new batteries and use all forges for heavy xira

[valid gazelle]

so nice to see heto running full force

[nova osprey]

the new facilities apparently convert sewage to effluent so we might not even need to make our own effluent

[valid gazelle]

[subtle finch]

we wont even need forge for batteries, the issue is finding 12 constant source of sewage

[nova osprey]

that's why i said we aren't sure about the math just yet

[valid gazelle]

they'd better give us more copium

[storm garnet]

that's why i said that at the beginning of the message

[valid gazelle]

and preferably.. 120 ferrium

[nova osprey]

oh i see i see

[shadow void]

Do we know for sure if its Xircon Effluent or Inert Effluent?

[subtle finch]

8 from cuprium, 1 from hetonite purifcation, 2 from xircon, last from ???

[valid gazelle]

our hopes and dreams..

[night hill]

does anyone know is its worth continuing to make the gourds after shop is cleared

[storm garnet]

will it be 4:1 ratio too?

cause that's not much

i guess it's 1 free forge per 4 sewage

[shadow void]

Imo its not even worth making in the first place

assuming the Jade Gourd in phase 2 is 120 bills/30 certs per

thats a risk i'm willing to take tho because i have 148k Heavy Xiranite and Hetonite saved

[storm garnet]

saving mats for second phase is prob the best choice for most cases tbh

[subtle finch]

if you only care about clearing the shop, and maximizing bills and hoarding, just do the trimmed medal and stop

[shadow void]

ymmv

[green sleet]

Did some tweaks. Hetonite is running max while looking more symmetrical than the last time

[subtle finch]

4 expanded crucible 😭 what is bro doing

[storm garnet]

and i just cleared the shop just now, so time to turn off the gourds

[green sleet]

Utilising the 4 outputs

[valid gazelle]

9 reactors in total..

[dense blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[valid gazelle]

bro is using extra 200 for pass throughs

[storm garnet]

i'll restart heavy xira

[shadow void]

Oh look, a useless point

[green sleet]

I make more than enough power lol. It isnt an issue for me

[valid gazelle]

honestly tho...

[shadow void]

And i'm out here shaving 10-30 power swappin mining rigs for hydro

[dense blade]

first time I’ve seen someone only use manifold tho

[valid gazelle]

maybe i dont have the position to actually judge someone else's power usage...

[dense blade]

mortars

[valid gazelle]

they are... off the grid

[shadow void]

I'm not one, but would the sub 4.5k club plz stand up

[green sleet]

Lmao. If i was hurting for power, id use a different setup for sure.

[shadow void]

I could hit 4.7k, but dunno if i could hit any lower

[valid gazelle]

and that is... with 1/4 of the main aic turned off

[ruby sorrel]

idk can't go that low with gourds rn

[dense blade]

my blueprint uses more than that on its own

[green sleet]

If you think thats bad tho, dont ask to see what the conduit mess looks like

[ruby sorrel]

maybe the ppl with no zips

[shadow void]

[dense blade]

but tbf I can turn off gearing units

and some other parts

[shadow void]

Zips could probably get me under 4.5k, but do i wanna walk everywhere?

[valid gazelle]

not when i can easily find 90 creds a day

[subtle finch]

im only at 3400 atm

[shadow void]

Ew, dirt

[green sleet]

Hats off to your optimization, Hikarin

[valid gazelle]

Hikarin using half of my usage

[shadow void]

turn that back on

[valid gazelle]

[dense blade]

life with no scs

[ruby sorrel]

is this what happens when you turn off your factory

[shadow void]

hmmm

[dense blade]

no turrets no ziplines fluid mining rigs

[green sleet]

I cant imagine shutting off more than the final output. Itd be so time consuming to turn each machine back on again

[valid gazelle]

you can bulk turning on and off

[dense blade]

via pylon

[valid gazelle]

via top down too

[dense blade]

oh right that feature

lmao

[valid gazelle]

doing with the pylon makes you field like an electrician

turning on and off breakers

[green sleet]

I use bulk to turn off the final outputs. Aside from a little power usage, it builds up their inputs/outputs and then stops.

[valid gazelle]

[dense blade]

[shadow void]

🙁

[valid gazelle]

but yes this feature exists

[shadow void]

-12/m scw

[valid gazelle]

[dense blade]

do you not have ziplines or turrets

[subtle finch]

i didn't know you play on controller 🥀

[green sleet]

Also, if im gonna be turning it all off, might as well turn it into a bp and free up the realestate

[shadow void]

my real numbers

[valid gazelle]

then your backpack is gonna get bombarded with all the stuffs

[dense blade]

[valid gazelle]

and it takes a bit to restart everything

[shadow void]

I'm a "Puts batteries in turrets" kinda guy

[dense blade]

real

[green sleet]

Yeah, and the excess resources'll be deleted

[valid gazelle]

real

i meant.. 50 scw can last for like..

[shadow void]

some ppl like burning batteries 24/7 for nothing

[valid gazelle]

100+ runs

[subtle finch]

actually, im not even that power efficient, i can still save like a couple hundred if i try harder
it's just that 12/min heavy costs so much less power than 12/min sc

[shadow void]

days of constant fireing per stack of batteries

[dense blade]

not having to place all the reactors alone saves a ton

[shadow void]

100 runs, maybe a 0 or two on that

[nova osprey]

yeah, so a stack is good for 400k sanity or approximately 5.5 years

[dense blade]

• treatments

[valid gazelle]

waaaay over kill

[subtle finch]

30/min xiranite costs a lot of power to run too

[nova osprey]

ikr

[valid gazelle]

and you can make that amount in a morning

[charred zodiac]

Guys my xiranite still 15/min. Can't reach 30/min, how to optimal it? Ive already separate the plant production already

[dense blade]

only running 6 tho

[valid gazelle]

the entire thing is wrong...

[dense blade]

• 2 reactors and a purification

[charred zodiac]

What's wrong can u help

[valid gazelle]

@charred zodiac let me blow your mind

[nova osprey]

your grinders are running at half speed btw

[valid gazelle]

1 jincao/yazhen = 2 carbon blocks

[nova osprey]

that's one problem you should be aware of

but like others have said, use the wuling plants as well, that will save you on facilities

[valid gazelle]

so 1 jincao/yazhen planter can fully support 1 xyranite

[charred zodiac]

Ah I see so buckflower is the problem

[valid gazelle]

yep

[nova osprey]

actually your grinders are the problem here

[green sleet]

You wont be needing it in wuling. Same with citrome

[nova osprey]

but using wuling plants will make it easy to spot the problem anyways so work on the planters first

[valid gazelle]

buck is the problem, because its not giving enough carbon

[nova osprey]

he's running one line of buck into the grinders when it should be two though

[valid gazelle]

because 1 buck gives only 1 carbon dust worth and more over he's using 2 outputs

[nova osprey]

it would work if he used another line of buck, but yeah the jincao/yazhen is just much better and he'll probably spot it on the way

[valid gazelle]

while 1 output of yazhen/jincao fixes everything

[charred zodiac]

Alright jincao or yazhen replacing buckflower

[valid gazelle]

either

[nova osprey]

indeed

[valid gazelle]

they are the same

[shadow void]

152000 per battery x 50 = 7.6m / 160 a shot = 47,500 shots x 8 seconds a shot = 380,000 seconds, or 105.5 hours of non-stop fire.

[storm garnet]

not using wuling plants is not wrong, just less efficient. but you can still have wrong things

[subtle finch]

that's a lot of damage

[charred zodiac]

Thx for help friends love u all

[nova osprey]

yeah that's what i was trying to point out

[shadow void]

like 4 and a half days of shooting.

[green sleet]

What the hellre you gonna fight? The planet?

[nova osprey]

because even if he used wuling plants there's a chance that they might run only one line from shredder to grinder anyways

which results in the same thing

[shadow void]

just some context for ppl that dont put batteries in the combat towers

[valid gazelle]

he wanted 30/min. And he's only getting 15/min > So it's wrong (for his case)