aic-factory

[brittle horizon]

what's the purpose of spliting it into 2 and then combining it again? apologies if this is a basic thing

[gentle sentinel]

So it got 1/m output

[sonic summit]

TO KEEP 2:1 ratio of bottle : part

[brittle horizon]

I don't get it...

[sonic summit]

? why you dont get it?

[brittle horizon]

like at the start right after it comes out of the depot

[sonic summit]

cause i only have 15 xira/ minute to work with

[brittle horizon]

it slows the output?

[sonic summit]

yes

of those 15 output i spit into 5 per output with 10 go to bottle 5 go to part

[brittle horizon]

yeah I understand the latter part, I'm running a similar build as someone who didn't dev wuling at all yet

[sonic summit]

here if you want to know how to reduce output

[brittle horizon]

that's really interesting, I doubt I'll find a use for most of it but I'll save it

[gentle sentinel]

You'll need it, trust

[sonic summit]

oh believe me, you will use it in future

[brittle horizon]

when I'm desperate and in need 🙏

[gusty wave]

So im running this and why is the theoretical output 12 but the practical only 6?

I feel like thats pretty bad

[foggy kraken]

🤣 holy crap so apparently you can place an unlimited number of turrets inside the aic area itself so you can line up the qingbo stockade with mortars

[sonic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[willow tundra]

correct, same with ziplines

those two placed in AIC are excluded from protocol limit

[sonic summit]

you use 2 stashes.... it only make 6/ min

[vapid dock]

what in the undertale graphics

[sonic summit]

i just grab it somewhere here

[gusty wave]

So i gotta remove a stash? What dors that change?

[sonic summit]

try it maybe theoritical limit became 6

i never belive the theoritical too much tbh

[gusty wave]

Didnt change anything

[sonic summit]

[gusty wave]

Do you know somd good buck cap A and SC battery blueprints?

[sonic summit]

i mean that bluprint only make 6/min idk the 12/ min came from

[sonic summit]

you wanna mine ? i only have buck a though... mine is hc instead of sc

[gusty wave]

Sure u can change the mats for sc right?

[sonic summit]

nope you use steel in hc

[fringe oasis]

What are the use for output reducers, when what we need is to increase the rate of production by maximizing raw material usage?

[sonic summit]

sc is only ferium part

[gusty wave]

Then i could just switch the output to ferium couldnt i?

[sonic summit]

to make sure your main battery maker didnt died?

[fringe oasis]

[sonic summit]

try to not limit output and see your energy became 0/200

[tall tangle]

example. you have this:

[sonic summit]

sure bud... this only half btw

[tall tangle]

you can use only 15 without harming other production

[gusty wave]

Jesus

What the fuck is staining my eyes

[fringe oasis]

I mean worst case scenario is that the pipeline clogs. But it isnt harmful?

[sonic summit]

a 12 / min hc battery on sub pac in originium park with bonus 60/ min extra sandleaf powder

[gusty wave]

Do u have blueprints?

[tall tangle]

if you use 30 and deplete depot, production cant keep up with demand and everything slows down equally

[sonic summit]

yeep but you need to add these 2 unloader back or i cant share it, also feed sandleaf to planter

[fringe oasis]

Hmm, what I do when the usage is higher than yield, I reduce one unloader

[tall tangle]

you reduce every unloader by "excessive use" divided by "number of unloaders"

[fringe oasis]

Although what I really do is either remove the primary production or increase the amount of secondary production to match the core part manufacturing

[tall tangle]

when you cant do that, is when you use logistic splitting

[sonic summit]

still want bluprint ? you need maxed originium park pac btw

[fringe oasis]

Hmmm. I havent got in a situation where I need to use them so I kinda get it but also not

We need more originium mines in V4 and more Ferrium mines in Wuling

[sonic summit]

i use it to make 1,5 /min wuling SC btw

[sonic summit]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: [oriparkhcright ]
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Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: [oriparkhcleft]
EFO01eAoi7OIEU4aOoui8

btw i am on sea server

[fallen niche]

is it just me or did they buff the water pump size

like, its smaller

[upper fiber]

buff and smaller....

[vital narwhal]

no change with water pump to my knowledge

[gusty wave]

I cooked up smt myself that has these stats so ill let it run for a few hours

Tho im surprised that i could run out of originium with the amount of rigs i have

[sonic summit]

here the max

[sonic summit]

oh right what server are you ? do you still want my buck a BP?

[pulsar cypress]

Seeing the originium chart..
It will only run for a short amount of time.
Then died again due to over consumption..

[gusty wave]

Im EU and sure i could use it

[gusty wave]

Jesus

[sonic summit]

NOPE eu and asia cant share blueprint

[gusty wave]

Bru this is getting so frustrating no matter what blueprint i use some problems appear

[gusty wave]

Any idea for improvement? The reason im using so much ori is bc im using it to fuel thermal banks bc i barely habe batteries

I genuinely need smt like a SC battery blueprint for main and like buck A for subaics

[pulsar cypress]

U need to turn off all production, and let one battery only plant run..
To stockpile some batteries in depot..
Use a bit battery enough to power up the factory..
Until your current yield reach max number and have some ore more stocked in the depot..
After that then u can start placing blueprints one by one..

[sonic summit]

its better to make battry in sub aic then buck a in main tbh

[gusty wave]

Alr

Just gotta find some blueprints

[sonic summit]

sadly i cant share mine cus difrent server

[gusty wave]

Im looking through yt rn

[pulsar cypress]

If u directly spam all blueprints, the starting energy/battery production cant keep up with the energy consumption.
Ur factory will died again.

[tall tangle]

they want to click one button and forget abt factory. let them suffer with that approach

[meager stream]

can we change server (channel) manually?

[sonic summit]

so new save ?

[gusty wave]

What do i do then bruh

[rugged gulch]

should not take long for battery lines to warm up, like a min or two at most before they can keep up. A least if they are built right, cause you want to be over producting batteries to sell.

[sonic summit]

its 1 account per server

[meager stream]

no, im just curious cuz no server options (usually shown at login session) 🤔

[sonic summit]

idk i never change to server that 13 h behind

[pulsar cypress]

Do this @gusty wave
Dont make anything, just one battery production for now, save the orig ore consumption and stock some batteries first so u have enough batteries stock to supply when spamming bp later on..

Also always check the "current data : yield and usage"
Usage must not higher than yield, equal at most.

[lofty lodge]

done phase 1, restock time

[meager stream]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[fringe oasis]

Aight, 2nd attempt at trying to compress the HC producer

[sick basin]

[gusty wave]

Whats that

[meager stream]

rip originium & ferium stocks

[sick basin]

Aic event

[meager stream]

hmm no new events until may 14th, except factory

[sick basin]

Make event exclusive shit, get currency, buy stuff

[gusty wave]

Oo how many pulls does it bring?

[sick basin]

Like 3

[gusty wave]

Oh

[meager stream]

.gacha

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1463314157368643706/EndfieldBannerFlowchartv2.png?ex=69716102&is=69700f82&hm=1016600671b1f4866d60410df6ce664bb6221b472f5c617d085a405fd7f4ec22&

[fringe oasis]

Wait, I can compress it even further by offloading

I'll have to delete some production in the sub PACs

I don't even kn... wait

[nova osprey]

rather than shredding the sandleaf at the back, bring the shredder forward closer to the originium to make it cheaper in terms of how much belts take space

[meager stream]

stash productions ❌, stash pac ✅

[gusty wave]

Hows this looking?

[nova osprey]

not bad

[gusty wave]

Yippie

[jovial breach]

People already clearing shop now?

Damn

[meager stream]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[meager stream]

need preparing stocks for phase 2

[sick basin]

Which will need the jade gourd anyway

[jovial breach]

I mean

You can also just sell jade gourd to clear 1st shop

[sick basin]

Well, clearing shop no

That ye

But still need to sell for trim

[jovial breach]

Oh right still need 20k normal gourd?

For medal

Ok i just checked

800k event currency+ 20k jade

That's it

[meager stream]

Wait, is the 2nd phase using same currency stock exchange/different?

[jovial breach]

Hmm iwill clear shop in 20 hrs

[sick basin]

Same

[jovial breach]

Well ofc

Because no way they require you to have 800k for medal

[upper fiber]

if 1 jade gourd = 40 fruit then 800k fruit = 20k jade gourd

[meager stream]

honestly ive cleared all 1st exchange, but have around 5k-10k stocks bill unused

[upper fiber]

fruit you meant

[meager stream]

i guess for this one will be higher value, cuz jadegourd crafted from heavy xira & hetonite (more difficult than common xiranite)

[upper fiber]

should be lower... otherwise why bother listing the same or higher result if 20k jade do the job

maybe it is 8m instead of 800k

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-sleeping-ausar-mimir-chibi-gif-16243009948272407056

[final sierra]

slower than 10/m looks wrong after 1000 mins test (count +1 per each 9 output during that time with in game counter) I will test it more but looks like clogging broke all 🤔 🤔

[tribal crescent]

guys

can anyone tell me if there are ponds on the map

as in

fillable pools

[jovial breach]

Didn't you ask this

[tribal crescent]

beside the usual

yes

imma ask again

[jovial breach]

[tribal crescent]

maybe someone will know

one must never give up

i even filled the tutorial pool

[jovial breach]

But what are you gonna do

[meager stream]

to save fluids with great capacity?

[tribal crescent]

that's how desperate i am

[upper fiber]

200, 800, 40k only i think

[subtle finch]

hmm, did you put it against the unloader? that's kinda important like it shows in the black and white diagram

[tribal crescent]

there are the puzzle pools

[upper fiber]

fluid tank exists..... as well as bottle

[tribal crescent]

and a 60 pool

which is the tutorial one

nah

i need to be able to bathe in it

[jovial breach]

But what liquid

Hmm

If you want to bath

[upper fiber]

desperate = white liquid

[jovial breach]

Cant fill it completely

[sick basin]

Theres 4 total only

So, enjoy tbose 4 ig

[meager stream]

if you looking ponds with huge capacity, try at depot node locations (near TP with 40k capacity)

[tribal crescent]

i filled it

[gusty wave]

Btw how do u unlock the sets that ZF and laevatain need? I heard smt abt wuling factory but havent come across it

[sick basin]

Go to wuling
Open gear template chests
Make the gear

[final sierra]

oh, ok I will test again :))))
(all tested slowerisers shown on screenshot same as placed)

[sick basin]

Will make more sense once u actually reach it

[subtle finch]

it's kinda known fact already that anything lower than 10/s breaks if not against the unloader, or doesnt have splitters on the side like this
they all rely in unloader or converger priority, also place everything with bp, otherwise converger prio order can be different if hand-placed

[meager stream]

or...umm...near wuling residence/xiranite project area (near recycling) i guess

[jovial breach]

@tribal crescent

[subtle finch]

here's 5/s for example not against the unloader, but with side splitters
tested for multiple days without problem

[meager stream]

also, you can put them liquids into bottles via filling unit xD

[dreamy jungle]

planters make ts look ugly😭

[subtle finch]

, reminds me of fuyu's layout
#aic-factory message

[tall tangle]

most things look ugly when you are space focused

[dreamy jungle]

you said my layout looked like a slum, so i tried better

[subtle finch]

😭

[dreamy jungle]

slum is behind city now

[rare moon]

If it works it works

[final sierra]

(I didn't think about it late at night when I was building it to test XD)

[meager stream]

if it works dont touch it

[tribal crescent]

thse should be all the pools i filled

[vapid granite]

• 2 xirinite
• 2 sandleaf

[dreamy jungle]

@marble yarrow i made a 3 forge 26x39, but I doubt that will do your evil factory any good

straight up 9 forge probably better

[vapid granite]

Someone quick tell me how much culrprium, ferrium, and orignium ores we can place again

[tribal crescent]

filled

[meager stream]

and then condult condlut em all to core pac

[meager stream]

is it xira liquid? or xircon/heavy?

[meager stream]

sadly, current forgesky limit is 8

[tribal crescent]

it's jincao

i'm not crazy to do heavy xira

(yet)

[dreamy jungle]

i know

[vapid granite]

Pipe splitters also do what conveyors do and slow movement speed pipes too right?

[vital narwhal]

do we think 8xira subaic is possible with stashes

[dreamy jungle]

barely impossible, maybe try external pylons

[tribal crescent]

we are so desperate we have to try external pylon

do stashes work outside

[subtle finch]

i think this might not be true, maybe with 6 you can fill in the voids of one enother, but 9 doesn't seem to need a non-repeating or irregular configuration to be optimal
i'd be happy to be wrong

[meager stream]

Etto...about those 2 outlets, condult manifest is available

[vapid granite]

How does that work

[dreamy jungle]

i was also thinking that we could just leave out the 50% plant loop and get that one powder line from outside, but it wouldnt be true 8 xira sub anymore

[meager stream]

same working with common condult, but having 2 input & output. Nah about different liquid, never tried it haha

[vapid granite]

Do you mean like this

[tribal crescent]

pipe is 2/s

you are just choking

[dreamy jungle]

you always want to challenge me

[vapid granite]

@nova osprey help me

[vapid granite]

This is what im currently outputting

[subtle finch]

i think everyone gave up on that quickly, just placing the units alone makes it seem impossible, but leander think otherwise
you can probably calculate the minimum space taken of input and output to prove if that is the case or not

[subtle finch]

i didn't mean to this time i swear , im telling you it's fine now

[final sierra]

this one too?

[tribal crescent]

then you just need 1 pipe

with 1 output

[tribal crescent]

oh

m

[meager stream]

Try 6 water fluid pumps & using 2 convergers for input condult manifest

[tribal crescent]

y

god

thank you

[vapid granite]

then i didnt even need a manifult

[tribal crescent]

hel; yeah

[fringe oasis]

Aight, I logged everything I'm making

[tribal crescent]

it was there all along

[vapid granite]

why do i need to waste 6 water fluid pumps for two inputs that take one water unit each

[dreamy jungle]

here are the calcs leander made #1477099769397514252 message

[subtle finch]

bro is minmaxing valley iv 😭

[fringe oasis]

I think I'm overproducing,wait

[brittle sedge]

one pump worth would be enough for 2 planters, no need for conveyer

[meager stream]

but can be splitted at outputs, 1 building for all pipes xD

[vast iron]

this doesnt even consider that we lose ~80 tiles to the subpac building

[fringe oasis]

Ah yeah

Steel

[vapid granite]

So you want me to have one output with pipes everywhere, seperated by multiple pipe splitters?

[dreamy jungle]

i mean he tried and gave up as well

[subtle finch]

[dreamy jungle]

maybe hes still trying behind the scenes

[fringe oasis]

I have 8 Steel unloaders and I'm producing 9

[subtle finch]

[meager stream]

just try & check them (its optional, if you want explore further) xD

[fringe oasis]

I'm also producing 6 Ground buckflower and I'm only using 4 for the buck capsules...

[vast iron]

well ill do some optimistic calculations ig

assume we have 8 forges

[vapid granite]

You got 8 fluid pumps pumping into one conduit inlet?

[subtle finch]

@dreamy jungle i tried to do it with efficient planters, but it looks ugly 😭

[final sierra]

what about those ?)

[meager stream]

but idk ya if different liquids, for example sewage & acid/others (still works or not)

[tribal crescent]

don't they get blocked after you did the quest

[dreamy jungle]

welcome to the club

[vast iron]

does jade gourd need to use yazhen?

[subtle finch]

😭

[vapid granite]

How does 4 work for 8 fluid pumps, it only produced 1 unit per second but have 8 seed pickings that use 1 unit per second, wont you need 8 fluid pumps?

[vast iron]

maybe squeeze in between both modules?

[tribal crescent]

planting unit uses 1 liquid per 2s

almost every facility is like that

so 0.5 unit/s

[final sierra]

uhhh ok, can't even place

[worldly pivot]

is there a way to set up an excess fluid dump?

[vapid granite]

I hate people like you

[meager stream]

cuz every condult must be connected manually, just imagine 8 pumps with 8 condults

[vapid granite]

Type that thinks sending pictures explains all the details

Where is @nova osprey when i need her

[subtle finch]

oh, i tested the earlier design, it can work with the 1 lane configuration

[vast iron]

it literally says 1/2s

??/

[tall tangle]

man... elementary school math is humanity's doom

[dreamy jungle]

oh super nice, will change to that then

[vast iron]

sigh

[vast iron]

btw, whats the goal here again

2 jade designs?

[vapid granite]

Sorry i forget some people are too perfect for this world to make mistakes

You're obviously too good for us, no wonder you don't type to explain

[subtle finch]

i realized i need 4 of it running, so saving that power/planter is kinda important, since i'd still be running with hc bats

[meager stream]

boosting prod time, cuz packaging usually produce 1 per 10 seconds

[vital narwhal]

I do like optimizing for power/utilization too, and it does seem like it should be actually impossible to do within subaic if we use full loop. seems like too much effort to pour into something I wouldn't even consider using. I guess if I revisit it'll have to be with less ambitious goal

[worldly pivot]

I have an excess xircon effluent since i stopped producing heavy xirantie. I dont want to just treat inert xircon coming from battery production. So im purifying the inert but i have no use currently for the xircon efflient. Currently, im bottling it for later but there an inventory limit, once i hit max my battery production would stop as well.

[subtle finch]

it used to be smallest single, but converted to double, what you said earlier might be right in terms of area, but i still hate to lose bus space instead

[vast iron]

you can treat the effulent too, to save power

[vapid granite]

Its called oversight, you may be good at math but English is obviously not your strong suit

[vast iron]

i might take a crack at it later

[vital narwhal]

you can use different bottles to store the effluent

[sonic summit]

make self making effluent battery

[vital narwhal]

if you don't have amethyst bottles, disable some buckcap C in V4 and make a big batch

[tall tangle]

i'll just rule14 this real quick and move on

[vital narwhal]

can also make cryston bottles if you really want more

[subtle finch]

imagine if units can passthrough items they can't possibly process

[sonic summit]

i make cryton bottle because it look pretty

[vast iron]

well most units dont have the slots to do that anyways

[vital narwhal]

that would be so stonks

[worldly pivot]

hmm i dont think i can reduce my power to 2 wuling batteries. Im using 3 rn with still room for power.

[meager stream]

oh guys, any effects if spray using different bottles? for example liquid xira filled with cuprium/ferium/amethyst bottle

[worldly pivot]

wdym?

[final sierra]

i have some work for you :)))

[sonic summit]

just add the resulting effulent from purifying into one of the sc battery

[tribal crescent]

no way

where is this

[vapid granite]

Ill just block you real quick and move on too my guy thanks

[vital narwhal]

no, or at least not yet. I'm more confident they'll eventually add fluids that need to be stored in certain bottles, idk about what you mentioned tho

[final sierra]

same place

[tribal crescent]

no wae

i'll come

[fringe oasis]

Is this right?

[subtle finch]

like this

[meager stream]

ah i see, i will make easiest bottle then

[worldly pivot]

i dont think i have enough cupium ores to set up another battery production. im at 12/h right now

[iron crest]

Any beginner friendly wuling blueprint guys ?

As in start from zero

[meager stream]

imagine producing hetonite bottle with heavy xira liquid & then wrong spray click

[dusty snow]

Jade gourd needs 12/min heavy xiranite input, yes?

[sonic summit]

just use hikarin setup mine is his version but modified to be vertical and quick swapable to go back to making heavy xiranite@worldly pivot

[worldly pivot]

in a 12/h battery setup, im using 4 reactors? Can we still get the same efficiency with 3 reactor + 1 purification?

[subtle finch]

you still get the bottle back, you're just flaunting 𝕻𝖗𝖊𝖒𝖎𝖚𝖒 𝕭𝖔𝖙𝖙𝖑𝖊 instead

[keen river]

i think its the puzzle in the new zone in wuling

[sonic summit]

you using less xiranite instead on one of crucible about 12/ min? instead of 30 / min?

[keen river]

but it gets closed after you are done with it

dont think you can pour water there later

[brittle sedge]

jade gourd only needs 6/m

[worldly pivot]

yeah thats what im thinking, but im not sure if theres enough innert to produce that 30 xircon effluent.

[subtle finch]

no, but with self recycling effluent, you can reduce your xiranite consumption from 120/min to 96/min for 60/min of xircon
and use the excess xiranite for the event

[tall tangle]

will it delete liquid in tho?

[vast iron]

i mean it doesnt even have a capacity

[final sierra]

and yes no limits if you do it manually

[worldly pivot]

how much would that affect the battery production?

[sonic summit]

still 12 sc? the output didnt change only xira input reduced

[subtle finch]

96 is just slightly over 3x30, so you still need a 4th reactor

[nova osprey]

yo o.o

[vast iron]

i wonder if the jade recipe can work with jincao

[vapid granite]

Its oki i got it understood

[vast iron]

if so we could use farm-alternation

[nova osprey]

aye alright gotcha

[dusty snow]

Both the heavy xiranite part and heavy xiranite bottle is produced at half the rate of which the packaging unit can make the gourd... So each needs to be doubled.

[subtle finch]

i wish too, but doesnt seem like it

[meager stream]

4 forgesky can produce 12/m scw, but....originium will be challanging

[worldly pivot]

i see. and this free's up hm xiranite?

[sonic summit]

its just 4th reactor that make effuent will clogged and it reduce the xira usage into 6/ min

[worldly pivot]

Ok. gonna try that out. Thanks!

[sonic summit]

you need to do some prioritylogistic btw carefull

[nova osprey]

they just said it goes from 120 to 96 xiranite, so 24

[subtle finch]

i already said, 96 without heavy vs 120 with heavy or extra effluent, both are still 60/min of xircon

[tribal crescent]

wait what part actually is this

[sonic summit]

yeep you can make about extra 2 gourd per min i think?

[nova osprey]

ah good old pwm

[nova osprey]

should be 1.6

[sonic summit]

nope this time it difrent

[nova osprey]

for 24/min

[nova osprey]

oh really?

[sonic summit]

yeah it make it so they prioritize side pipe instead of main pipe

[worldly pivot]

priority logistics?

[brittle sedge]

every process is at 6/m and ratio for jade gourd is 1 by 1

[nova osprey]

how do you do that?

[sonic summit]

yeep but pipe version

[subtle finch]

then you realize jade is better anyway, so you make double heavy instead

[tribal crescent]

it's gone after you do the quests

[sonic summit]

ask @subtle finch i am gonna sleep

[final sierra]

oh :((((

[nova osprey]

how much hxira you got stocked up

[nova osprey]

goodnight

[subtle finch]

honestly not much, im just about to reach wuling depot cap
i didn't save up early

[nova osprey]

tbh though i think even with 12/min you're gonna hit the hard limit for gourds

[meager stream]

hetonite guys dont forget

[green sleet]

1 full production of heavy xira should be sufficient, yeah?

[nova osprey]

the hetonite is much more forgiving since it runs at 22.5/min max

[subtle finch]

57k in stocks is all you need, then 6/min in phase 2 to reach max bill limit
but im doing it for highscore, so let it all burn

[dusty snow]

The parts and bottle is produced per 20 seconds no? That's 3/min, the filling and and packaging is done every 10 seconds... It won't keep up, can you tell me the math?

[nova osprey]

did haruna do the calcs already?

[brittle sedge]

20s yes but it gives 2

[nova osprey]

yes produced at 20s but gives 2 per

[subtle finch]

yes

[dusty snow]

Hold... It makes 2?

Damn, aight then

[nova osprey]

i mean im also going to be doing uhh

what do you call it

0 to 100 post event trades

[obsidian wolf]

I want to destroy some of these mats so my battery factory doesn't clog ,how can I do it ?

[nova osprey]

so im gonna need about 247k total gourds

[brittle sedge]

make some hetonites

[worldly pivot]

have you cleared the event shop? i havent even cleared the weekly quest of 350k event bills.

[meager stream]

for cuprium, continue step to podwer & hetonite 🔥

[green sleet]

The trashcan. Or feed it to hetonite

[nova osprey]

to be exact i need 247,149 total gourds

it looks like im forced to 12/min hxira huh

[meager stream]

anyone know how much needed for a jade gourd?

[nova osprey]

yeah we know already

it's 1 hxira + 1 hetonite + 1 jincao(? or yazhen? i forget but i think it's jincao) fluid

hxira to fitting unit for 2 parts

hxira to moulding unit for 2 bottles

1 bottle of jincao + 1 part = 1 gourd

[faint monolith]

what consumable do you guys produce? yahzen A?

[nova osprey]

thats the neat part, i dont

[final sierra]

so there was easier way to collect it XD

[nova osprey]

nvm it's yazhen

but it doesn't really matter

same setup just different plant

[meager stream]

ah crap, didnt stock yazhen&jincao yet xD

[nova osprey]

btw @subtle finch how do priority pipes work?

[nova osprey]

imagine stocking it up

[tall tangle]

why not?

[nova osprey]

i mean you could but there's no real reason to

[faint monolith]

yeah i think i have an issue with my battery/xiranite setup where it requires sewage from cuprium production but cuprium parts stack up fast so i might need to make yahzen syringe

didnt check my factory for like 2 days and it ran out of batteries

[subtle finch]

there's 2 types, priority intake, or priority out
out is just an overflow valve

[nova osprey]

i need priority intake

overflow valve is pwm setup if im understanding correctly

[meager stream]

but atleast not hxira 10 & heto 10 for a jadegourd xD

[nova osprey]

i managed to do priority belt once but im still lowkey unsure how it works

[nova osprey]

i mean the stock value would scale accordingly if it was

[meager stream]

hope they will set higher value exchange (40+10) 🥹

[fringe oasis]

Aight, Infrastation is just 100% producing steel

Now my Buck Capsule [A] steel bottle requirements is met for 2 producers

The other steel production is redundant, I'll delete it to make way for battery parts this time

oop, broken belts

Aight, time to see the HC battery requirements again

[green sleet]

This reminded me I need to overhaul my valley iv bases.

[ripe jacinth]

Steel part x2 to dense orig x3

[green sleet]

I havent touched them in weeks

[meager stream]

focusing hc battery first, if the resource usage > yield just move to canned citrome/buckflower (same value as hc)

[sick basin]

Havent touched them since day 5 of release

Has been the same every since

Cuz nothing changed

[faint monolith]

Yeah im hoping they never do any updated to the first area because i do not want to chagne any of those factories

[meager stream]

if it works dont touch it xD

[green sleet]

I mean... if they wanna give us more ore nodes, i wont complain 😂

[faint monolith]

is there a hotkey from the building top down view to view all the formulas for a specific material?

[subtle finch]

then there's more category of intakes, same fluid type, different fluid type,
for same fluid type, you dont need to worry if the total throughput is under the 2/s that the pipe can handle
but if it's over the pipe limit, simply put a splitter to the side you want higher prio, then place again the 3x3 area around the converger using copy/paste or bp

here's a visual of the side without the splitters clogging and taking less priority

[nova osprey]

ah okay, thanks

[fringe oasis]

Aight got it

[nova osprey]

thank you so much you're a lifesaver

[meager stream]

just be careful with originium&ferrium yield/usage if you produce many

[nova osprey]

so if i want to make 247k jade gourds im gonna need to make 12/min hxira now huh

[ancient charm]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[meager stream]

forgesky all in hxira 🗿 💀

[nova osprey]

yeah im gonna start that today lol

[brittle sedge]

12/m hxira for how long

[nova osprey]

i have some hxira stocked up but im gonna be doing 12/min hxira for about the next 10.5 days

[vivid walrus]

FOUR REACTOR CRUCIBLES?!?

[meager stream]

i cant, cuz alr balance between scw (12/m) & hxira (6/m) xD

[vivid walrus]

how do I make the parts then Oh God

[faint monolith]

this should work right or should i just pump the acid out to the same lake and keep the other outlet

[nova osprey]

you just feed it into a fitting unit after everything

lol

[nova osprey]

yeah im dropping all my scw in favor of hxira xD

[vivid walrus]

The one that is used to make armors

Duh

[nova osprey]

you said parts not components

[brittle sedge]

im also going to do 12/m until out of stock but is this enough

[nova osprey]

make sure you know which one you're talking about lol

[vivid walrus]

I forgot the name

[nova osprey]

it's easy

[vivid walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/grimacing-deadpan-kill-me-dysmorphia-insomnia-gif-14648713

[nova osprey]

just drop hetonite parts + hxira into gearing unit

done

[nova osprey]

for 247k?

yeah that's enough

[brittle sedge]

for all the items in shop and medal

thats good then

[nova osprey]

way more than enough lol

im just doing smth crazy called trying to squeeze out an extra 21 million wuling stock bills out of the event

[meager stream]

6/m hxira = 360/h = 8640/day

[brittle sedge]

[nova osprey]

no where near enough for 247k jade gourds

[faint monolith]

or this?

[meager stream]

how much hxira stocks should be enough?

[swift steppe]

I took the pumping back to lake route to avoid headaches

[tall tangle]

check production rates of all recipes involved and you'll see a problem

[subtle finch]

layout for 12/min jade goard

[nova osprey]

oh dont worry about 247k jade gourds unless you want to minmax to stupid extents

[nova osprey]

[nova osprey]

but if you're asking how much stock is needed to clear phase 2, the answer is probably 0

well like 100% chance it's going to be 0

[meager stream]

eh wait...2 packaging...

[rare moon]

Need to pack a thing to pack another thing

[nova osprey]

that's for 12/min

half of that is going to be more than enough for phase 2

[brittle sedge]

is that lol necessary

[subtle finch]

yet im gonna need 24/min

[subtle finch]

yes

[nova osprey]

yeah imma run 24/min until my stock is out

[rare moon]

It's always necessary

[nova osprey]

my goals are beyond your understanding

[rare moon]

Stock up on batteries so you can 12/min hxira for gourds for a week

[nova osprey]

im just gonna port over hc from v4 for the duration of the event

[meager stream]

manual transfer batteries everyday kekw

[nova osprey]

tbh 68k should be more than enough for the entire event

[gentle sentinel]

I made this one from your 6/m layout

[nova osprey]

rest of the event

[subtle finch]

it will honestly not use much power if you also use originium ore for power

[nova osprey]

yeah gonna do that too

oh yeah wait 3.2k power just burning originium isn't bad

[subtle finch]

very nice 👌 mine came from @dreamy jungle too

[meager stream]

if the next phase selling jadegourd still 40+10, i will back using previous one (phase 1) xD

[gentle sentinel]

Owh btw, how many input is needed for the fitting unit and moulding unit?

[cedar bolt]

1 fitting unit, 2 molding unit

[subtle finch]

they only need 6/min each, so 1 unloader can supply 5

[gentle sentinel]

Ah ok ok

thank you

[subtle finch]

now that i think about it, they might switch to 10s meta for all units in the future, and this is a preview

that technically does "speed up" the belts

[tall tangle]

"honey in pipes factory" speed

[rare moon]

hmm i guess if you make 1.5 sc with the 12/min leftover xiranite, we have 59 banks of originium making 2950 power for a total of 6,350 power. also have 2.5/min originium left over

i should do that right now and go full hxira production

[ionic scroll]

Apparently I hit the build limit with this one. Fitting 10 forge of the sky's into the core aic (Not in full production, waiting for expansion to 12). Almost fully self-sustainable if not for an additional input to 1.5/s Sandleaf.

[ashen pollen]

Im loosing my sht a bit guys, is it possible ot make Xircon with 2 crucibles? Or I need 3 mandatory
I feel like its possible but i cant make it work

[rare moon]

technically could use 1 crucible but its half efficiency xircon

[autumn maple]

any advance spoiler for phase 2 please ?

should i continue producing xiranite gourd and sell for coupon or stockpiling heavy-xiranite

[tall tangle]

need some hetonite too, less than heavyX

[subtle finch]

either way would let you clear the shop, except maybe the 100x t-creds trade in, dunno how much that costs

[autumn maple]

got some hetonite ready, yeah.

[autumn maple]

what about efficiency ? not much different ?

[subtle finch]

jade is far more efficient

[autumn maple]

i see, alright.

better prepping for heavy-xira / hetonite stockpiling and stop the xira-gourd then

thanks

[tall tangle]

yeah. those are too cheap for 3 xira

[ashen pollen]

Im so fuckeing fired, i dont get it aaaaaaaaaaa

[subtle finch]

[wheat breach]

what’s max originium in Wuling

[vital narwhal]

Expanded crucible can craft liquid xiranite, effluent and inert version, and xircon at the same time. But on its own, it won't have enough effluent to produce xircon at full speed. That's where another expanded crucible is coming in producing liquid xiranite+effluent to supply the xircon machine with enough effluent

[wheat breach]

I’m now even close and yet I got them all hmmmm

[ashen pollen]

Yeah i have expanded, Its just getting clogged all the time, i cant get it ot work

[wheat breach]

also lvl 10 says unknown region protocol capacity increase is that supposed to be this way?

[nova osprey]

test area

not out yet

[wheat breach]

I see well idk why my ore is not maxed than

[nova osprey]

let's see?

[rare moon]

technically 505 if metatransfer

[shadow void]

probably late doing this, but i'm really bored

[wheat breach]

False alarm I never unlocked hulu cave

[nova osprey]

i wonder how much 7.5 million certs will give

in terms of tcreds

[shadow void]

Now i need to figure out how to modify everything in V4 to always backup into protocol stashs

[shadow void]

think i calculated yesterday you could make 8.8m certs at 12/m hvy xiranite with 148k stored

[nova osprey]

i found a way to do priority belts but not really sure what's going on and the cinsistency

[wheat breach]

Do you guys stop battery production or something to produce the event item?

[nova osprey]

[shadow void]

I dont, but i'm a special case. I over prepared

[nova osprey]

yeah gonna do it for phase 2

[nova osprey]

how much hxira do you got prepared

[shadow void]

148k heto and hvy xiranite

[wheat breach]

I mean I got max batteries regardless I won’t die

[nova osprey]

wowie

[nova osprey]

idk if i want to go much further than the stock bill limit though, depending on the conversion rate of certs to tcreds

[ashen pollen]

Ok i see why its clogged, its the fuckign sewage that results from Zircon that comes back on itself, but im already suplying sewage

[nova osprey]

it's probably not gonna be that good after you buy out everything, if there is an infinite tcred thing afterwards

[ashen pollen]

The fuck do i do with it

[nova osprey]

you just send less sewage

[shadow void]

I was trying to figure out how much production i needed in various scenarios. If i did everything i could for the event, I'd only need 24.09/m Jade Gourds over the 204 hours of Phase 2

[nova osprey]

half your sewage input

or idk

how much you're putting in

[shadow void]

Not including saving Hvy Xiranite in stashes

[vital narwhal]

you only need sewage from one refinery for one belt of xircon

[shadow void]

but manually transfering to and from V4

[nova osprey]

you're crazy xD

you have more than enough gourds for the stock bills and you got extra event items for just certs

[ashen pollen]

Thats what i had, crap, then it must be other mistake zzzzzzz

[nova osprey]

take a screenshot

of xircon setup

[swift steppe]

Takes 1/2 per Expanded Crucible if you're compacting down to 2x ECs

[vital narwhal]

I don't recommend 15/min setups for someone just trying to get it to work

[worldly pivot]

Tried the 4 reactors + 1 purifier setup for 12/h batteries. One of the reactors is clogged and is no longer producing xircon effluent, would this brick my battery production?

[nova osprey]

how much xiranite are you dumping into the reactors

[vital narwhal]

if the machines aren't working because of clogging then efficiency will be lower

[worldly pivot]

still 120 xiranite feeds to 4 reactors.

[vapid granite]

I have successfully created 100% efficiency SC battery farm with the only clogged thing is my sandleaf powder

[worldly pivot]

current stats

[vapid granite]

Probably going to ignore building hazen this time around, it would only work on half efficiency if i use my last two available cuprium outputs

[ashen pollen]

I think its more wrong than it was before

[nova osprey]

don't think you have enough space in a normal crucible

you need an expanded crucible if you want to do this setup

[vital narwhal]

one belt of xircon needs either five normal crucibles or two expanded crucibles

[swift steppe]

Yea, takes Expanded if you're trying to shave down to just 2

[elfin elm]

just use the xpanded crucible

[worldly pivot]

so xircon effluent is down a little bit because of clogging i guess?

[vital narwhal]

if you are using four expanded crucibles there is probably something wrong here

[ashen pollen]

It is expanded, no?

[nova osprey]

nk

no*

that's just a crucible

expanded crucible is a different machine

[worldly pivot]

im still using the regular reactors.

[nova osprey]

look at the formulas

[tall tangle]

this is

[ashen pollen]

The fuckkkk

[shadow void]

Dunno if I even need to add the spoiler at this point. Basically what you'd need to make to buyout outpost bills with Jade Gourds. I added the production rate and certs gained on the bottom left

[nova osprey]

do you see that there's no space for xircon to be made

you have 5 slots with smth but don't have a slot for xircon

[sacred berry]

use the expanded crucible, its a different building

[ashen pollen]

Ok, hold on, how do I build expanded then, i have the tech

[worldly pivot]

this is my xircon production for 12/h batteries. the far right reactor is clogged.

[nova osprey]

it's a different building all together, just look for it like you'd look for any building

[sacred berry]

its just another building, u can make it like other buildings

[nova osprey]

also are you sure you have the tech? you beat main quest?

[nova osprey]

that's not expanded crucible

that's just a larger cache for the first crucible

[green sleet]

It looks like you need to progress story some more

[nova osprey]

yeah

you can just use old scw battery setups though

for now

[ashen pollen]

I just killed Tang tang brother, is that enough?

[nova osprey]

no

[ashen pollen]

Whaaaaaaat

[green sleet]

Nope. Gotta unlock T3

[nova osprey]

go kill ||nefarith|| now

[ashen pollen]

Ok, i thought i was crazy and here i am, alrite, bakc ot questing I guess, thx

[elfin elm]

dont spoilt it man

[shadow void]

||assuming we actually "kill" her||

[elfin elm]

just say boss

[nova osprey]

it's literally spoiler tagged

if he doesn't want to see it he doesn't need to press it xD

[ashen pollen]

i didnt click dw, all good. Sorry for CLOGGING UP THIS CHAT 💀

[green sleet]

You werent, bb.

[elfin elm]

still tho, just say "That THing"

[nova osprey]

nah you good that's what this channel is for

[nova osprey]

aight aight

[shadow void]

not as bad as the occaional bitcoin scam guy coming in and posting random pictures

[vital narwhal]

far right reactor is being fed more effluent than it needs. that specific crucible is working at full speed hence the full belt of xircon, but since it has too much effluent, the crucibles making effluent feeding it are getting clogged too. the proper ratio is five crucibles, you don't need that extra conduit for more effluent.

[shadow void]

nvm

[vital narwhal]

holy chud reactionary crucible

[shadow void]

i gotta start thinking before i post

[vital narwhal]

a lil out of pocket lmao

[vapid granite]

This is prob the only thing that i still dont know how to properly use

[shadow void]

was just a little funny

[heavy mango]

Endfield players? thinking?

inconceivable

[shadow void]

[heavy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-white-meme-breaking-bad-cooking-jesse-we-need-to-cook-gif-25990838

[glossy nymph]

It's like a crafting table like minecraft.

[shadow void]

its annoying for sure adding in that it does passthrough

but its a beast of a machine

[vital narwhal]

the most interesting in the game by far atm

[heavy mango]

cant wait for all the recipes that will come for it in 2.0

because lord knows this thing will be important forever

[vital narwhal]

well it depends if next region still has fluid focus

but I do expect to see future use beyond just wuling

[nova osprey]

they better expand v4 to allow fluid

[tall tangle]

i have strong doubts that even cc will be able to compete with aic

[nova osprey]

wdym by that

[subtle finch]

we're done with planters, i want them to lean into slaughterhouse production next

[shadow void]

isnt the only fluid in V4 at power plateu

[heavy mango]

still waiting for ammo manufacturing.
let me build a heavy mortar that needs to be fed with AIC Ammo through belts.

[shadow void]

and quarry

[heavy mango]

[points at all the strung up longears]

[nova osprey]

er nope but it is a bit of a ways off

there's the pipes in science park

bonecrusher camp in hub

[shadow void]

gues theres water in valley pass too

[elfin elm]

well just like the normal one, using " trial and error" method

[nova osprey]

i forget if there's any in v4 pass

[subtle finch]

nah, that's still manual, i want automated suffering

[shadow void]

theres water in a few places in V4

[heavy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-876349915692546827

[vapid granite]

Does it completely replace the normal reactor crucible or just in relevant situations?

[shadow void]

I'd really like to beable to use water in V4

[tall tangle]

i mean, combat itself seems kinda bad, so factory with any new features seems like a better idea than something that expands on combat

[vital narwhal]

conceivably there could be a region where "drones" aka belt-free transfer from miners/stashes could be outright disabled, idk if they willing to go there tho

[shadow void]

relevant situations

[nova osprey]

in arknights we were trying to prevent warcrimes

in endfield we want more warcrimes

we've come full circle

[heavy mango]

it can "condense" two reactors into one if you do it right, and it allows for some funkiness with Xircon Effluent

[shadow void]

you still use the regular crucible for cuprium solution

[nova osprey]

i enjoy combat decently

[vital narwhal]

oh wait I think stashes aren't drones, it's literal tp

[fringe oasis]

The funny has happened once again

[elfin elm]

usualy it just changing the line that use 2 normal crucible into one crucible

[fringe oasis]

How many total Originium unloaders does it take to max out that 560?

[nova osprey]

18.67

[fringe oasis]

hmm...

[vapid granite]

The combat in depth is pretty simple, its all about presentation in the end

For example who wouldve thought something that looks so cool that Fangyi could do, was purely by just consuming eletrification stacks repeatedly

[shadow void]

its shows a drone here, but it probably is just a TP. Probobably using the same tech we/Perlica use to just manifest things from thin air

[elfin elm]

It was more like this

[vital narwhal]

No, because for reactions that can't be done in parallel with something else (e.g., most of the cuprium dissolution crucibles), it's better to use normal reactor crucible because it's less power

[nova osprey]

I'm hoping cc adds complexity into planning rotations based on threats you choose, but we shall see

[vapid granite]

can i put it in a Wuling SC battery maker? using 4 crucibles rn for two xircon effluent liquids

[elfin elm]

u can

but u need 4 of those to make at least 12/mnt

on my report, its still 9/mnt cus that new event product

[fringe oasis]

Yep, everything is now outsourced. Last mile journey in the core AIC

It's the buck capsules that really eat steel

Back to normal

Let's see what else I can make with the free originium ports

[elfin elm]

i got a question, how far are you in terms of buying stuff with V4 stockbills?

[fringe oasis]

?

[elfin elm]

i mean, did you or not completed (bought) all option in V4 store?

[shadow void]

Assume he means have you bought all the one time only set of items like the permits

[fringe oasis]

These ones?

[elfin elm]

like the V4 motobike

[shadow void]

collectables

[elfin elm]

yeah thats

[fringe oasis]

I still have a... "couple"

[elfin elm]

well, there no need to worry about teoretical data if you are focusing in stockbills income

[fringe oasis]

I'm maximizing my production

[shadow void]

You get to a point where you litterally just buy these

[fringe oasis]

For the sake of maximizing production

lol

[shadow void]

You'll get there, eventually

[craggy oyster]

i been ignoring valley shops for weeks

nothign to buy really

[mystic glen]

nice overview, I've got two more to fill in the gaps in the bottom row. If anyone can optimize the 1/min one more that would be nice too, but this is the best I could come up with that was most compact with least amount of splitters/mergers/bridges

[vital narwhal]

I'm stocking V4 shop stuff since eventually we won't be running v4 factory anymore

[shadow void]

Eh, the trust items would be nice to have in the future if you wanted to force feed them to ops, and the Engraving tickets are something, but i've got 123 of the things and i've got every perfect essence for every weapon

[shadow void]

thats a good point

[elfin elm]

what kind abomination is this???

[mystic glen]

implementation of prime splitters

[gusty wave]

My farm produces 24 sc battery pro minute, can i afford to use a few of the bats on my thermal banks or do i keep using originium? Ive almost run out of it

[mystic glen]

gives you belts speeds that require splitting by 5 (or 7/13, but I just keep it to split by 5)

[shadow void]

Basically the wacky things we gotta do to make weird rates on belts

[mystic glen]

I've made some implementations before, for 4/min 3/min and 6/min but the guy I replied to has those already

[elfin elm]

if it's giving advantage ill try plant it

[keen river]

perlica, dump it

[shadow void]

🙁

[mystic glen]

I personally use them for a consistent component production line, where I want exactly 4/min or 1/min input speeds for whatever reason I feel like

realistically I think most things don't NEED it, but it's neat to get exactly what you want instead of "2.11111111" or whatever "close enough" ratio a normal setup would give you

[elfin elm]

niether you dump it or hold until you found the 400%

[keen river]

i still need 3.6m stocks by end of sunday :<

[keen river]

it doest get more expensive than 5k so is about as high as it will go

[shadow void]

yeah, i was gonna say something like hold'em, but it really just depends on the person

[elfin elm]

but that number was quite good tbh

[gusty wave]

????

[brittle sedge]

it can get to 5k, rare though

[mystic glen]

I like holding them till they are over 5000 and 4700 respectively, but yeah it barely goes any higher than that so 4950~ish and 4650~ish are good selling points.

[keen river]

yeah

i think the max price is like 5100

but its a roll if you will get it

5k is good enough

[elfin elm]

if it was me, ill let it manage it self

[shadow void]

Man, i've sold elastic goods maybe a handful of times since i started the game at launch

[mystic glen]

super rare tho, I've only once or twice see it go above 5000 and never any close to 5100

[gusty wave]

Wdym

[craggy oyster]

u supposed to use what bat that u curently producing on all map. unless u know what u doing and want to minmax ur bills

[keen river]

i stockpile the valley 4

[shadow void]

I've sadly got 6k Hard Noggin Helmets in V4

[keen river]

but wuling you need money for artificing mats

and you dont make enough if you dont sell

[elfin elm]

It was more like this

[gusty wave]

So im producing sc bats rn, do i use those then?

[elfin elm]

Now V4 only supplier for emergency energy in wuling

[gusty wave]

This is mine

[craggy oyster]

yup

[gusty wave]

Wont that use them up so i cant sell them?

[craggy oyster]

u shoud be able to produce more tahn u use

[gusty wave]

??? Whats the context

[brittle sedge]

you will never use them up if you produce at full efficiency

[elfin elm]

its more like

[gusty wave]

I could spam more factories but then i would have to take down at least one buck A factory and 2 of my outposts need those

[elfin elm]

what kind of news u just read?

[spark hedge]

Done heto part 4.5/m + xircon 60/m + heavy Xira 6/m

[mystic glen]

tbf, I've seen a lot of people (read me) being fucked by xircon production once or twice lol

[shadow void]

I translated the image text, its Vietnamese

different laws there for ppl playing games under 18

[elfin elm]

is't it always like that

[shadow void]

so probably has to have that 18+ stamped on screenshots, or maybe its the device hes on that does it

[elfin elm]

that normal for thier " goverment" under "child protection law"

[gusty wave]

Should i put more sc bat farms into the subaics?

[mystic glen]

how many you have already?

[shadow void]

just looks wierd, to me, having 18+ on it, but like i said, different country different laws

[uneven aspen]

you should have space for all 3 sc wuling bat lines in your main aic tbh

[gusty wave]

4

[elfin elm]

u could, but u need to make the compact one

[elfin elm]

true

[craggy oyster]

4 lines of batterry. that's 24/mins. How much battery did use that u scare u gonna overuse of what u produce lol

im guessing u still in valley 4. Just use all of ur resouces to make the highest batteries and heal item u can sell. use some of the battery u make to run the base. That's pretty much it. dont use ori

[cedar bolt]

Sell

[craggy oyster]

nope, he scared that he using too much bat that he dont have anythign to sell

so he using ori instead

[fringe oasis]

I AM FARM

[subtle finch]

we've gone full circle

[elfin elm]

how much that's give you?

[cedar bolt]

[tall tangle]

around 2500

[craggy oyster]

50416=3200

50x4x16

[tall tangle]

ah. for some reason remembered that orig gives 40

[gusty wave]

Im now apparently using so many sc bat farms tht im using more originium than im making with the rigs

[green sleet]

Isnt the max you can make with whats available 2?

Or 12/min

[gusty wave]

Wdym

[craggy oyster]

u still in valley 4 right?

[gusty wave]

Im using a dozen of those

[green sleet]

Ah. Well that changes what ive said.

[gusty wave]

Ive unlocked the wuling aic but im still working on valley 4

[craggy oyster]

see ahah, valley SC bat, not wuling

[fringe oasis]

Welp.
Nothing else to do now.

[green sleet]

I gotta start getting into the habit of asking which battery set.

[fringe oasis]

Wait I didn't edit the unloaders...

[elfin elm]

congrats, u beat the loop, now touch some grass 🙂

[gusty wave]

Oh shit my farms have died bc i dont have any originium

[craggy oyster]

producing all item u can make using the 3 basic ores

[gusty wave]

Never thouggt i would be missing that of all things

[craggy oyster]

im on my way ahahah

[elfin elm]

why, u didn't use half of that

[subtle finch]

i made as many intermediate products as i can before going for profit production in v4

[craggy oyster]

for fun

every char upgrade is in wuling now. u only need some ticket for essences in valley but that's it.

[fringe oasis]

Yep, now I have truly Valley4'ed by Valley4

[elfin elm]

it is acually nice to see

[craggy oyster]

so all valley base eventually useless

[subtle finch]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[vital narwhal]

My v4 base powers my wuling

Transfer battery stonks

[gusty wave]

Why does it show that 170 ori are being used per min even tho i dont have anything that uses them on?

[subtle finch]

im only using 800hc a day now

[fringe oasis]

Finally

Below 500

LMAO

[elfin elm]

did u check the one on the refugee subpac

[fringe oasis]

I have the space for one more purple production, either HC Battery, Buck Capsule or Citrome

But it's gonna nuke my orig.

[craggy oyster]

yeah but it cap sooner. im delaying wuling bat cap so i dont have to micro management wuling resouces as much

[vital narwhal]

Wao 800 so few

[craggy oyster]

tired of moving items from 2 bases back and forwards lol

[fringe oasis]

Ah, I have 15 originium unloaders. So 3 more before the limit

I can make 1 more SC battery which is exactly 3

[vital narwhal]

If you make only HC battery with your originium, you can make it out of three machines with 20/min remaining

[subtle finch]

at this rate gta vi will arrive before you can catch up 😭

[craggy oyster]

cant believe we got Pragmata before GTA VI

[vital narwhal]

Lol, I mean if they're having fun that's what matters ig

[nova osprey]

[subtle finch]

sure, but it's like playing hide and seek with your grandma if you go to this channel

[uneven aspen]

not surprised since they released an actual proper demo

usually that means they are just polishing and mostly done

trying to do 30/m xiranite into gourds. I want a 1:2 ratio right? so 10/m and 20/m should work like this?

I've been using a protocl stash 1:2 split but idk if this is better

[subtle finch]

1 splitter would do 😭

[brittle sedge]

why not just

[subtle finch]

dw, i get limiter or priority-blinded too

[uneven aspen]

cause when i was doing 60/m it will output 2 lanes at once

so i kinda kept using it after swapping

[fervent lodge]

that's a rectangle, sir

[uneven aspen]

idk about each unit activating at different times

will affect teh production rate or not

[gusty wave]

What should i put into my main aic? I need both sc bats and buck A but if i put my Buck A farm (that doesnt fit into the subaics) i cant fit more than 2 or 3 bat farms plus i think ill run out of bats to power it all

[uneven aspen]

sustain then move on the story for HC valley

then sustain until you increase region development level 11

then finalize valley 4 aic

[subtle finch]

not really, it will start when everything arrives, and be constant after that

[craggy oyster]

well need to get creative to fit thing on sub AIC

[gusty wave]

Also why tf is ORIGINIUM STILL AT 705 PER MINUTE MY AICS ARE EMPTY FOR FUCKS SAKE

[fervent lodge]

@subtle finch are you also running full tilt heavy now for eventual jade gourd?

[uneven aspen]

maybe im a bit ocd about it, but the 5th part is arriving 1 tile quicker

[subtle finch]

yes, im staying at 12/min until the end of the event
so i will be running 24/min jade for a while to burn my stocks

[fervent lodge]

protocol stashing?

i completely dismantled my originium battery things into blueprints to replace them with stashes under the limit

[subtle finch]

just valley depot is enough, i didnt actually saved up that much, i think ill be at around 116k by start of phase 2

[fervent lodge]

bc both my heto and hxira is capped already

solid

fact-checked by REAL altruists:
TRUE

[craggy oyster]

move some to valley ?

[fervent lodge]

lazy

will move when stashes also fill up

[shadow void]

staying at 6/m Hvy and just doing 24/m, tho i only need 18.09/m

[subtle finch]

stashes takes more effort 😭

[fervent lodge]

no? i just daisychained them out of the depot

[shadow void]

I'd have to rip out parts of my factory to do stashs, i dont have it in me to do that

[subtle finch]

i guess, but i have no room rn, since i prepped for jade production already

[fervent lodge]

they're also nice to reclaim, just destroy

[fervent lodge]

hence the battery kill

[subtle finch]

so i would need to manually put it in outside stash

[craggy oyster]

yeah but it's 1750 fer few clicks while stash is only so much

[frigid dirge]

4 days and i making 2nd round of 36 gourd/min now

[fervent lodge]

800k certs

heh...

what's the actual realistic figure, about 7 mil?

[shadow void]

8.8 if you do 12/m hvy and store 148k prior

[fervent lodge]

neato

[subtle finch]

actually i could have the space, but i didnt managed my aic space properly this patch so

[nova osprey]

it's probably going to be close to 6 mil without any pre stashing

actually no that's wrong

[frigid dirge]

[nova osprey]

eh idk

[subtle finch]

1440 minutes in a day x 12/min of heavy x 14days, yeah 7.2mil or higher depending on your stocks

[frigid dirge]

gonna be round 3 at night

maybe afternoon

[subtle finch]

i guess you overestimated, and we'll all be kicked from the group

[nova osprey]

i mean you could but

[subtle finch]

[nova osprey]

actually yeah 247k is about cap for bills

any higher and you lose bills

but you still get certs

[shadow void]

20m is impossible, probably even if you put a stash in every square you can

[fervent lodge]

no that one was specifically eyeballed to be 4x of what i thought would be realistic at the time

to scare people

[subtle finch]

we stopped caring about bills ages ago

[nova osprey]

i mean im not sure if it's actually impossible

[fervent lodge]

i can make a revised version with 6 mil

[nova osprey]

speak for yourself

[shadow void]

tell me how many stashes you can place

[nova osprey]

could tear down the entirety of v4 technically

[gusty wave]

Anything i could do to change these horrid numbers? Im barely making any bats to sell but i need to keep the buck A farm

[subtle finch]

just follow kyostinv's guide 😭

[nova osprey]

though idk if it would be enough

[gusty wave]

Which one bruh

[nova osprey]

you should rig your mines properly

[subtle finch]

valley IV smh

[shadow void]

I guess i could play in enkad ad see

[gusty wave]

Did all already

[nova osprey]

your ferrium is less than half of cap

what do you mean you rigged your mines

[subtle finch]

i actually still clear the outpost despite my sacrifices

[gusty wave]

But my problem is the originium and thats all done pretty much

[brittle sedge]

why tf does ori yield only 140

[gusty wave]

Thats what im wondering too

[nova osprey]

your storage is full

wait no

lmao

AHAHA

[gusty wave]

I did all the maps this afternoon so shouldnt be that

[craggy oyster]

did u use rig mk2

[nova osprey]

bro how did you set like all of your rigs to storage mode

[craggy oyster]

rig mk1 is just a stash

[gusty wave]

Oh dont u dare

Lemme check

[craggy oyster]

or did u change all rig mk2 to wireless transfer mode

[nova osprey]

probably changed it to storage mode instead of wireless transfer mode

[craggy oyster]

yup

[subtle finch]

sometimes it can just bug out too if the server hates you

[nova osprey]

since im pretty sure it doesn't show up in the aic report if it's mk1

[gusty wave]

Oh kill me

[craggy oyster]

ahahaha

got cha

[nova osprey]

[gusty wave]

Oh fuck nah

Time to check out every single fkn rig and replace it with mk 2

[nova osprey]

oh no

nvm

it was mk1

[gusty wave]

Yep

Its the portable ones

[subtle finch]

[gusty wave]

Just end me

[gusty wave]

That explains so much bruhhhhhhhh

[uneven aspen]

decided to go 3 10/m setups with same distance travel to the fitting and moulding so both units produce at the same time

the right most setup kept having different priority on the splitter

kept having to delete and replace belt and splitter until they lined up

[subtle finch]

[craggy oyster]

u using 3 splitters and 3 converger to do the job of 1 splitter?

[uneven aspen]

splitter sends to 1 lane at a time

this way they all synced

[nova osprey]

is this ocd

[craggy oyster]

once u running out of xiratnite, u will see ahaha

[subtle finch]

this is madness

[brittle sedge]

mine is synced for whatever reason

[subtle finch]

when you relog it breaks the sync anyway

[uneven aspen]

for all 5 part and bottle

or only one time?

cause the previous way it was synced entering for 2 of them

then 1 tile diff for the other 3

[uneven aspen]

i have done this before

remained sync

[brittle sedge]

seems fine

[uneven aspen]

that doesn't make sense since an item travels .5/sec
splitter sends 1 lane at a time 😔

[subtle finch]

the chance of it desyncing is even higher with more belts and logistics

[brittle sedge]

magic

[uneven aspen]

screenshots and not a video so not really showing it tbh

[nova osprey]

technically it's possible if you think about it

[shadow void]

~379 stashes in Main, ~111x3 Sub: ~213,600 you can store if you gut Valley4

[nova osprey]

if it sends in the order of left middle then right or smth like that

middle and right arrive at the same time

[subtle finch]

this idea is not even worth entertaining to make a video of

[nova osprey]

meaning that the production of both fitting and moulding occurs at the same time