aic-factory

[shadow void]

kinda what i'm basing that on. Know how many certs we need total?

[subtle finch]

yeah mb

[hollow rose]

it seems i will need a lot of thermal banks to get the wuling factory going

[shadow void]

If i make 221,440 Jade Gourds, thats 6,643,200 certs at 30per

[dreamy jungle]

Ye i think the plant loop is not sustainable

[rare moon]

ok so max production is 12/min

[upper fiber]

i tried optimalizing hikarin's bp but kinda awkward now

what should i put between those free space

[subtle finch]

should work if prefilled but

[hoary crag]

have to say it does look good

[ruby sorrel]

don't you need full plant for full gourd though or do I remember formula wrong

[subtle finch]

it's showing as 6/m in enkad, and i didnt bother to check

[hoary crag]

although do you think it can be optimized by designing them in pairs?

[dreamy jungle]

Oh yeah, best to just test than doing it mentally

[ruby sorrel]

oh right only full powder, not plant

[upper fiber]

it should be best for 6 forge

[ruby sorrel]

but if you can share powder line it'd be less stuff

[hoary crag]

the dimensions are 7x77 per forge I assume? (pipes can replace conduits)

[dreamy jungle]

Ye

[hoary crag]

hmm

6 would be 42x77

[rare moon]

so need to stockpile 36,720 sc batteries at most to last for phase 2

[dreamy jungle]

What's the plan

[hoary crag]

which would be more than half the core area

[dreamy jungle]

Ts is using 2 wuling plant loops, its a troll build i made

[hoary crag]

I wonder if it's possible to have a 28-30x80 6 forge setup with a similar layout theme

cuz that looks really cool

[rare moon]

jade gourd production could fully buy out the outposts right at 12/min

[shadow void]

If I need to consume 221,440 Hvy Xiranite and Hetonite over 204 hours I only need a production capacity of 18.09/m Jade Gourds

well making that 48/m factory was a waste of time

[upper fiber]

this much better i think

[dreamy jungle]

Fr

[subtle finch]

omg, fruit made that one, not me, i can't believe people are actually using that 7wide forge 😭

[hoary crag]

lmao

[dreamy jungle]

Ye

[hoary crag]

my 6 forge is currently at 29x80

[shadow void]

So i can touch nothing and make 15.6m(26.5m if no limit) stockbills and 6.6m certs over 204 hours

[dreamy jungle]

I mean 2 of my 3x would do 25x80

[subtle finch]

i think people are looking for neatly tilable 3 forge design for all-in-one base later

[dreamy jungle]

#1487561669180788867 message

Ohh

[abstract sage]

and so the crystal comp farming begins

[upper fiber]

the piping is neat though

[dreamy jungle]

No way the 7 width was inspiring 😭

[subtle finch]

it is art after all

[shadow void]

messed up my calculation a bit there

I need to consume at a rate of 18.09/m over 204 hours with 148k stored, and making Hvy Xiranite at 6/m

[subtle finch]

@dreamy jungle
i think this is what haruna was using too, maybe you can make a more cleaner layout with the remaining space at the bottom
and the pipes coming from the right/left, i think that's what they're looking for

the layout kinda look looks like the slums when it's repeated

[dreamy jungle]

Bruh, whats 80 divided by 3

[subtle finch]

26

[hollow rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-_uyiixxTE&t=88s

am i not following well the blueprint?

because nothing seems to produce xircon

[dreamy jungle]

Hmm

[subtle finch]

did you unlock all aic tech tree?

[dreamy jungle]

More work

[hollow rose]

yeah

[subtle finch]

[vale shoal]

Why am I having like 1 second of down time between production

[hollow rose]

everything but the combat nodes

[small creek]

because umm uhhhh

[hollow rose]

im really lost

[upper fiber]

62x21 is too big for 3forge

[shadow void]

If, over 204 hours, I made 12/m Hvy Xiranite, plus 148k stored, thats 294,880 Jade Gourds. With a needed production rate of 24.09/m to consume it all. Netting 15.6m(35.3 if no limit) Stockbills and 8.8m certs

[dreamy jungle]

Way too big

[subtle finch]

purification unit only produces 30/min of effluent
xircon requires 60/min of effluent to be at 100% efficiency

[dreamy jungle]

Is the goal to make up to 9 forges on one side?

[hollow rose]

i think i saw the prohblem

[subtle finch]

i think so, like this

[dreamy jungle]

But haruna is utilizing that gap

[vale shoal]

I must have done something recently

[marble yarrow]

bro id rather have that gap empty and everything cramped to the right lmao

[rare moon]

think i'll max out heavy xiranite by the time part 2 happens

[marble yarrow]

also the reactor might not exist due to free effluent

[shadow void]

err

[subtle finch]

see

[upper fiber]

please sinkhole for tcred

[vale shoal]

It will be fine

[vale shoal]

500 million LMD

[shadow void]

100 to 1 ratio

[hollow rose]

just got the factory working

[upper fiber]

100 to 1 is so generous though

[subtle finch]

spoiler,|| i heard we will get 100x stocks of tcred, not sure about the amount though||

[rare moon]

either water or you forgot to turn on your plants

[hollow rose]

i dont know where the ferrium powder is coming but not complaining

[shadow void]

is it? hed only have 1050 tcredits

[dreamy jungle]

Hmm, ill see what i can do, will sleep now gn

[shadow void]

if you made a total of 8.8m certs at a 100:1 ratio thats only 88k credits

I'd say its a slap in the face

[subtle finch]

i was joking a while back that one run of protocol space for t-cred will net you more reward
classic AK event shop

[shadow void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[subtle finch]

the trade in used to be unlimited, but they changed it
assuming because dataminers will have more advantage

[sterile stratus]

[shadow void]

was it really unlimited tho?

[subtle finch]

yes

[shadow void]

well, just thinking about it, if we still had enkad to know the recipies we would still have ppl prepping for max or efficent production regardless

guess you could say we have an advantage over ppl that dont use that site or something similar

only in the knowledge of how to build it, having it prebuilt, and saving the resources for it

[subtle finch]

i doubt you need prep time to clear the shop, this is all just for high score

[vale topaz]

can rest gathering these rare herbs

[marble yarrow]

shiny herb

[shadow void]

not going for 68k?

[vale shoal]

farming

[vale topaz]

💀

[shadow void]

lemme calculate that for you

[subtle finch]

they should give me a notification when my plants are ready to harvest

[astral forge]

ok got some video @subtle finch @fervent lodge gonna upload it once it finishes exporting but it seems like for a pipe splitter: if two downstream pipes A, B, have non-zero demand, the splitter will push to only one downstream (lets say A) even if A only requires 1 unit of fluid, so even if the input can push 2 units it'll use up one tick to push only 1 unit. if A is something that consumes 1 unit every 2 seconds, the remaining downstream pipe B will receive something along the lines of 2 units, 0 units, 2 units, 0 units, ..., which gives it an effective 1/s fluid rate even though there's a theoretical 1.5/s fluid input remaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-qXEPTCJvw

[subtle finch]

what's that title

[shadow void]

how long does it take to full grow, w/o fertilizer

[astral forge]

she pipe my fluid til im simulated

[subtle finch]

idk, im not a farm minmaxer

[astral forge]

if a splitter could output to multiple lines in one tick the middle should act identical to the left wrt top pipe, but it acts identical to the right

[shadow void]

lets say you just pick them up twice a day, thats 850 days to get 68k

assuming you get 40 of them per farming session

last i picked them i got 40 anyway

[astral forge]

also havent tested fully but initial state of splitters seem to be output to "north" going ccw (north being the direction where your arrow faces up in the minimap) based off like 3 orientations i tried

[subtle finch]

what are you testing for exactly?

[vale topaz]

my sandleaf cult membership still feed me sanity, so i won't do it

[astral forge]

why series splitters for pipes fail

even if a splitter could push 2 units of fluid, if the current pipe it's pushing to only requires 1 it'll only push 1 rather than split the 2 units and output to both

[subtle finch]

try with sewage, and treatment unit, and do step by step analysis by using control port to send 1 unit at a time

i think the main issue is people expect it to behave like manifold, but it doesn't

[astral forge]

not really sure what that means

the behaviour exhibited wouldn't pop up if you control it for 1 unit. the thing it's testing is whetehr a pipe splitter can output to multiple downstream pipes in one tick

[lofty lodge]

Re-do my crucible setup to recycle some cuprium black liquid to make heavy xeranite, just learn that crucible can still function outside AIC as long is only usr liquid

[shadow void]

does this issue happen regardless even if you fill everything to the max?

[vale bramble]

can i sell my soul for +0.5 xiranite/s

[shadow void]

kinda wonder why we even have that build zone

[vale bramble]

conveyors work only there

[shadow void]

what i mean is, we already have building limits, why limit where we can build

[vale bramble]

endfield is too broke

[valid gazelle]

so that you wont have conveyors bringing xyranite into Fangyi's office

[shadow void]

when stuff can already be built outside the aic

can you bring liquid xiranite in there?

[vale bramble]

i wonder if conduits work in the fangyi office

like teleporting with the conduit wire

[valid gazelle]

[shadow void]

doubt it

[vale bramble]

im going to try it out once i get on endfield

[merry wagon]

likely not

maybe the devs placed the fangyi office a gorrilion miles up in the sky

[vale bramble]

the humble window behind her work desk showing all of wuling city

if it's below 200 meters i think conduits CAN work

[valid gazelle]

its not like her office is as tall as the eiffel

[green sleet]

I just had an epiphany. If it doesnt need belts, i can put it outside of the aic area. My Hetonite line just got a whole lot more symmetrical

[lofty lodge]

wait... is the test area will have the same limit as Wuling city, 350 limit

[subtle finch]

This is how I see the problem
supposedly, nothing should go wrong with this setup.
My assumption is that the refining units are not synced with the pump.
This is an exact system, so if it desyncs and the pump gets “clogged,” it fails to generate a liquid, causing you to lose one item in the process

[merry wagon]

hmm has anyone tried to clip out or in to her office from the window

or maybe it's just a projection

[astral forge]

lol this fluid system is fucked i just retried but with a water treatment unit and it seems to be working fine

i don't really know whats going on anymore

i hope the next regions doesn't have pipes

[green sleet]

Well if the next thing is gasses, hope youre ready.

[valid gazelle]

[shadow void]

gonna have to calculate losses from outgassing

[green sleet]

Thatd be hell. Cant wait

I saw immediate gains once i changed my farms to that suggested 2 planter, 1 picker setup. Thanks for the pointer, @valid gazelle

[subtle finch]

honestly, it doesn't matter to understand why it doesn't work, as long as you know it doesn't work

[valid gazelle]

what

oh youre welcome

honestly i possess the brain of a goldfish so i dont remember

[vapid granite]

gonna restart my entire aic cause somethn fucked up in the morning and idk where it went wrong

good idea to not produce yahzen A this month?

[valid gazelle]

[green sleet]

Felt that lol

[valid gazelle]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[twilit shard]

Hetonite is so dumb

[primal cedar]

my factory is not producing xircon and i cannot figure out why

[valid gazelle]

SIRcon ?

give screenshots

[primal cedar]

i followed kyostin's guide

[valid gazelle]

oh kay

[green sleet]

Did you try beating it with a stick?

[valid gazelle]

anyone familiar with kyo's layout ?

just send the screenshots of it

[twilit shard]

send screenshots anyways

[valid gazelle]

we cant say anything if we dont see it

[twilit shard]

No

[primal cedar]

i made sure to connect the pipes the water in and out and i cannot figure out why it broke today

it was fine for like 26 hrs

[twilit shard]

I need screenshots

[valid gazelle]

yes screenshot pls

we know it's not working and we're here to help but we cant help if you dont show it lah ~

[twilit shard]

[green sleet]

You piping too much sewage in?

[subtle finch]

my assumption is you used too much xiranite making gourds, and that broke the xiranite-sewage balance and it clogged

[valid gazelle]

and... they're gone

[valid gazelle]

oooh

[primal cedar]

maybe idk i have hc batteries as a bandaid to keep it running

[valid gazelle]

Kyo's layout recycles sewage

[green sleet]

And let there be PhOtOs

[twilit shard]

I can’t look rn cuz I’m usin the grill

[primal cedar]

sorry it took a min to sc the main aic area

[subtle finch]

just save the crucibles as blueprint, and place them again

[primal cedar]

replace the whole thing again??? 😭

[subtle finch]

it's just a simple cut and paste

it's the fastest way to remove the clog

just the reactors

[primal cedar]

reactors?

[wispy grove]

you cant have it all

[green sleet]

Just replace the crucis

[ruby sorrel]

the dangerous game of balancing everything so it explodes if anything isn't balanced

[subtle finch]

this part

select area, save as bp, delete, and place again

[silent canyon]

What counts towards the 250 protocol limit in wuling, and how much does each building contributes towards it? I feel like some count for more than just 1

[ruby sorrel]

wait those are crucibles not purifiers

[valid gazelle]

i.. dunno the reason behind that layout..

[subtle finch]

they said it's working for 26hours

probably just used too much xiranite

[valid gazelle]

a clog of xyranite can ruin that ?

[silent canyon]

I hit my limit and it's so frustrating. I gotta go all over wuling finding builings to delete to go back under limit

[valid gazelle]

use less bridges

[ruby sorrel]

nah they have no ferr dust

[subtle finch]

same as 1.1 really, if you steal xiranite and make comp, without an overflow valve, that clogs your xircon

[ruby sorrel]

obviously nothing is going to work

probs deleted the shredders somewhere

[valid gazelle]

the 4 crucible at the bottom shouldnt be filled completely no ?

[subtle finch]

that too i guess

[valid gazelle]

oooh

no ferrium

lol

[subtle finch]

they clearly did something

[valid gazelle]

[primal cedar]

yeah i have no idea why my output of xirco just plummeted to zero cuz now its not making the batteries i need anymore

[valid gazelle]

welp at least there's the answer

you have no ferrium dust

so ofc you arent making SIRcon

[subtle finch]

what did you did with your ferrium

[silent canyon]

Wtf zipline towers contribute 3 to the protocol limit

[valid gazelle]

go make a simple ferrium dust line

somewhere

and it should work again

@primal cedar

you are out of ferrium dust

[primal cedar]

BRO IS THERE NO FERRIUM IN WULING

THIS AREA IS THE WORST

[valid gazelle]

sipping copium

[green sleet]

Yep. They give you crumbs

[primal cedar]

WO WHAT THE HELL DO I META STOPRAGE

[valid gazelle]

maybe ferrium is the copium we find along the way

[primal cedar]

FERRIUM BC IITS NOT HERE OR DO I METASTORAGE THE ORG POWDER SINCE I NEED THAT TOO FOR SOME REASON

THIS AREA SUCKS

[valid gazelle]

[green sleet]

Well they give you 480 of orig, so maybe stick to ferrium?

[coral orchid]

this is 2:1 Ratio but somehow it's clogged?

[valid gazelle]

holy tangle

what is that

[shadow void]

players building things the devs dont want us to have

[primal cedar]

idk i just copy and paste guides man

[small creek]

dense orig cubes

[silent canyon]

Wtf is that abomination

[ruby sorrel]

nay, it's 1:1 ratio

[small creek]

we barely have enough ferrium in wuling

[ancient charm]

Why so complicated

[coral orchid]

Dense Originium is the answers

[primal cedar]

i just want to have gear... i didnt ask to play satisfactory man. thats why the devs gave us this copy paste tool right?

[ruby sorrel]

2:1 into 1:2 = 1:1

[coral orchid]

I need 7.5/mins usage on Ferrium for this

[ancient charm]

Hear me out

[primal cedar]

so dont meta the ferrium cuz i just made a line to shred ferr

[ancient charm]

What if you split 7.5 refined ferrium out when you produce ferrium dust for hetonite and xircon

Then just need to do a single split

[small creek]

🤷

[valid gazelle]

long story short... Wuling has 90/min ferrium. Enough for 2 lines of SIRcon with 1 extra (can be for hetonite or whatever you want it to be)

[brittle sedge]

this looks like 5/m though

[valid gazelle]

idk why you are all caps-ing about ferrium even tho we barely have any... we do have enough.. for now

[twilit shard]

If you transport ferrium is 115

[ancient charm]

We only use 82.5k for xircon and hetonite rn

[valid gazelle]

^^^

[small creek]

what we dont have enough of is fucking cuprium

[valid gazelle]

[small creek]

cant even make max eff heto line

smh

[valid gazelle]

damn 180

where my 240

[twilit shard]

That too

[valid gazelle]

wait

[small creek]

ferrium is a 1.0 problem

rn its wtvr

[ancient charm]

I think

Rn

[valid gazelle]

focking is not censored but f king is ??

[ancient charm]

Originium is a problem

[primal cedar]

so does wuling have ferrium cuz for whatever reason its not being transported to my depot

[small creek]

nah

we have exactly enough for 2 scw lines

orig is perfect rn

[valid gazelle]

^^^

yep

[ancient charm]

True

[twilit shard]

No?

[ruby sorrel]

idk go mine ferrium if you have no ferrium

[hoary crag]

I dreamt last night that test area only had 2 copium, a ferrium deposit, and an amethyst deposit

I still don't know if it's actually a dream or do we count it as a nightmare

[small creek]

if u wanna make xircomp, then metatransfer dense orig

[ancient charm]

Then the issue lies with not enough FoS

[valid gazelle]

and not enough copium

we need to cope harder

[ruby sorrel]

we have more xira than orig though

[valid gazelle]

[small creek]

Before this event, we had enough xira

[twilit shard]

Hetonite can’t even be made at 100% efficiency

[small creek]

actually more than enough

[valid gazelle]

before the event we had more than enough xyra

[primal cedar]

i found the problem...

[ancient charm]

U need xiranite for all the comps

[primal cedar]

im in fact a dumb tourist

[valid gazelle]

that's why some meta transfer ori cubes iirc

[ruby sorrel]

you still have more xira than orig

[twilit shard]

xiranite is becoming the new Sandleaf

[valid gazelle]

make extra use of that xyranite

[ancient charm]

Is it possible to metatransfer xira

[valid gazelle]

not yet

[ancient charm]

Just hydrorig

[primal cedar]

from back when i didnt have xiranite pylons...

[shadow void]

no

[astral forge]

wuling doesn't even have metatransfer lol

[primal cedar]

i removed some pylons today from 1.0 and this broke the aic

[ancient pier]

Is it real that the jade gourd recipe only need 1 heavy xira + 1 heto + 1 yazhen juice?

[ancient charm]

Like put xira in V4 then meta to Wuling

[sick basin]

5 juice
But yes

[shadow void]

hopefully

[vapid dock]

dunno what i'll do with all that effluent but its there ig

[ruby sorrel]

more juice

that's unrealised xiranite gains

[valid gazelle]

herbal juice

[ancient charm]

More xircon

[small creek]

in other news, i finally fixed the sewage problem in my 1.25/m SCW
code if anyone wants it: EFO01ouiOAuU4o6A9IieO

[valid gazelle]

dang

[brittle sedge]

got any of them bottles? with that you will clog eventtually

[valid gazelle]

that cluster of valves

[woeful radish]

done

[small creek]

all it took was a converger on the output itself

[vapid dock]

it wont

[shadow void]

time to prep for Phase 2

[small creek]

basically its sewage overflow system

but before that is a selfclogger

[valid gazelle]

oh that's an overflow valve ?

[small creek]

yep

[valid gazelle]

whoa

can you explain it

[primal cedar]

that fixed my issue it was just not having a rig set up properly

[small creek]

i can make a crude drawing

[valid gazelle]

this is like learning redstone

[brittle sedge]

still what goes to water treatment will be wasted no?

[ruby sorrel]

could've just been this funny setup

[vapid dock]

I can't put anymore storage tanks and I cba to make bottles, the converger-manifold overflow trick just prevents clogging

as soon as the storage tanks are full

[small creek]

assume 30/m sewage goes in the crucible
then it goes out again, nothing stays for now (passthrough)

30/m is split into 3
1/3 goes back into output to self clog
1/3 goes up along the overflow valve
1/3 goes back into the crucible

the 1/3 gets split again and again between 2 pipelines: going to treatment and going back to crucible

the self clog means the passthrough cant work all the time, so some sewage is forced to stay inside

the overflow is like automatic sewage management, wherein if the crucible clogs, it will back up into the treatment plant

also since the density of sewage is so low, the xircon effluent sometimes has a small window to use the same pipeline as the sewage

thats why youll see it alternate between purple and green lol

[green sleet]

That seems a tad convoluted. Happy it works for you though

[small creek]

this ones green for example

[ruby sorrel]

should calculate the max mixed length pipe per flow rate sometime

[coral orchid]

???

[small creek]

That would be interesting yea

[ruby sorrel]

dunno how useful it'd be though

[small creek]

Mixing fluids is so cursed but sometimes u gotta do it to save space

[brittle sedge]

you said you need 7.5/m but the screenshot shows 5/m
or am i missing something

[vapid dock]

one day we will reach cursed levels of optimized italian soup

[small creek]

Akef is my first factory game so unfortunately i cant relate

But that looks like a lot of fluids

[ruby sorrel]

how does it work in factorio

[subtle finch]

close enough

[vapid dock]

magic or something idk

[small creek]

Xiranite clog instead of dense orig wtf

me when im insane

[ruby sorrel]

single fluid per pipe section here is wild

makes me think they don't want us to mix fluids despite having fluid control port

[subtle finch]

i like clean aic report, its more insane to drain your metatransfer before the next one arrives

[vapid dock]

fluid control port is about as useful as the item control port

in which literally noone uses it

[ruby sorrel]

I guess, but at least mixing belts you can have different items in the same belt section

fluids can't do that at all

[small creek]

item control ports are kinda useful

fluid i just have no idea lol

its giving manifold

[ruby sorrel]

that one overflow port

but it's a bit contrived

[subtle finch]

my jade layout is ready,

[green sleet]

Not sure how to condense further without taking up more space going the other way.

[subtle finch]

what are conduits

[ruby sorrel]

changing to jade gourds is gonna be annoying now that I think about it

my stuff is all over the place

[vapid dock]

if this was factorio we'd be able to hook up a storage sensor to the item control port to dynamically turn it on and off with a latch system depending on the thresholds sets for item count in the depo

[brittle sedge]

redesigning my main aic, working on this

[subtle finch]

bro made reactors as prisoners 😭

[vapid dock]

urban row townhouse lookin factory

[brittle sedge]

i like neat looking setup

[small creek]

bruh what did i do now

[shadow void]

yeah, if you rotated it'd look weird

[small creek]

i mean it works but like

holy logistics array

[marble yarrow]

holy mixing station

[small creek]

i think what i did is

increase the selfclog

but idk what went in my head to come up with this

[shadow void]

imagine this but one square in size and for belts and pipes. . .

[subtle finch]

minecraft did it first

[pulsar willow]

Wow that's really pretty

[vale topaz]

just realized marker stone can have 2 bus cores and 12 bus line.
feel to small to utilizing them, maybe if provided at jingyu valley

[small creek]

well, whatever this is i guess

oh i have a value wrong but wtvr

wait no im right nvm

[ruby sorrel]

did you not buy it there

[vale topaz]

already maxed since 2nd / 3rd day of the patch, just never noticed 1/2 when placing bus core

[coral orchid]

Why this one counted as -10/mins? not less than that?

[upper fiber]

splitters that's too packed won't work properly

[subtle finch]

what limiter are you trying to make? the sim isnt really good with some of them

[ruby sorrel]

the game isn't good with them either

[coral orchid]

7.5/mins Ferrium usage

[subtle finch]

[ruby sorrel]

my 4/5 wasn't quite 4/5 but it still said 240/240 smh, I lost like 1k xiranite

[spark hedge]

@brittle sedge

[sick basin]

I mean, thats just 2 splitters

[brittle sedge]

noice

[ruby sorrel]

I think this actually works properly now.... hopefully

[brittle sedge]

one more way to setup xircon that ive learned today

[coral orchid]

30/mins -> hub

[shadow void]

18+ ?

[sick basin]

Shut

[brittle sedge]

for some reason this is not 15/m lol

[subtle finch]

i would just do this

[brittle sedge]

best i can do 7.5/m is this

[hasty cipher]

Just when I started remodeling my AIC, this happens...

[ruby sorrel]

but what if ore clogs

[subtle finch]

that's not my problem

[hasty cipher]

Can't even do conveyor art, heck...

[shadow void]

you probably only got 60-70% space used too

[subtle finch]

this seems to actually be a stable 7.5/min, yes the side splitters are needed
i pushed it forward to show it doesnt need the unloader

[small creek]

this is mine

[primal jewel]

15/m here

[zealous gust]

are we suppose to continue producing gourd for trade or start collecting heavy xiranite for phase 2?

[subtle finch]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=J8z4A5g2z4W0u9

enka actually have published limiters

[brittle sedge]

yeah i saw that, and this works too

[uneven aspen]

converger at depot unloader entrance means it will prioritize the spliter lane back to it

you likely need gap between splitter and converger to get it working

[brittle sedge]

for some reason i tried 15/m but it wasnt 15/m
did i put it too close to port?

[uneven aspen]

if converger was 1 or more tiles away from entrance it should alternate 50-50

that should work too

[subtle finch]

yes, basically what zombie said

[brittle sedge]

til ty guys

[uneven aspen]

travel distance is a factor, for belt setups

[subtle finch]

nothing still beats my 24/min

[small creek]

do all 4/m always have that fkn tumor on the side

[ruby sorrel]

did you test it

[subtle finch]

i did actually

[brittle sedge]

6/m jammer nice idea

[coral orchid]

how about 7.5/mins?

[small creek]

#aic-factory message

gng we posted a truckload of 7.5

pick yo poison

[rare moon]

Whats the side splitters for

[small creek]

for good

[subtle finch]

converger priority, you want things forward to resolve first, by having splitters on the side, that gets prioritized first before getting items from the back/unloader

[marble yarrow]

its already prioritized in-game

even offline

for side belts

[coral orchid]

Ahh This one might overload the reservoir when the items full

[small creek]

[coral orchid]

and well the schematics is broke

[small creek]

so youd like a selfclog

i think hikarin's is that

[subtle finch]

pretty sure 5/s breaks because of too much traffic without those side splitters

im always building for something that works against or not against the unloader though

if it's against the unloader, i think its not needed

[ruby sorrel]

hmm 1/5 is really tricky, I think it just needs lots of spacing cus the timings cycle over all iterations and one of them will interrupt a splitter eventually

randomly throwing 1/4 a few cycles

[subtle finch]

did you try place the logistics via bp/copy-paste?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's very random

the 1/2 needs 2 belts after sometimes

the loopback 1/5 works with 1 at least, and the other sides of the later 2 splitters don't have terrible requirements

since they're forced to have a corner belt

[subtle finch]

belt logic was never tight enough, i think that's why they gave up on the forge auto-switch

[ruby sorrel]

the random order means you need a general solution for everything which is just ridiculous

[unreal laurel]

BRUHH I HATE THE NEW EVENT SO GODDAMN MUCH

HOW TF AM I SUPPOSED TO GET TO 100POINTS WHEN I GET 10FRAMES

[brittle sedge]

skill issue /j

[unreal laurel]

IN GODDAMN INPUT DELAY IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 0 AND NEVER

[wispy grove]

which one?

[unreal laurel]

THERES MORE THAN ONE?!!

[wispy grove]

no i mean what event

[pulsar cypress]

*aic only know gourd selling event.. XD

[brittle sedge]

he must be talking about the new web event

[unreal laurel]

the cake one

[brittle sedge]

not aic related though

[daring folio]

Does anyone have a reference as to how much splitters slow belt speed? I just realized that I have a line where I would expect a splitter to send Xiranite downstream at 100% speed to one line since the other is (currently) permanently closed, but it randomly slows down for some reason.

[wispy grove]

am i missing something here?

[unreal laurel]

i got a good device,why tf am i getting exponentially fewer frames with each cake

[wispy grove]

OH

web event

lemme look

[brittle sedge]

device issue idk havent tried it yet

[shadow void]

Yeah where is that thing, not out on NA I assume?

[unreal laurel]

i swear i start at like 20frames and lose 2 more every jump

WHAT THE FAH

[daring folio]

I guess to bump myself, I am encountering this problem lmao. Randomly the line slows and I can't figure out why. It appears to be inconsistent because the line below it has less slowdowns and a line just below that one has no slowdowns (all of them have one splitter)

[brittle sedge]

please post in #endfield this is aic channel

[unreal laurel]

i hate that place.....

[shadow void]

or the help channel?

[brittle sedge]

a whole picture of the line/setup might make it easier for others to spot the problem

[shadow void]

It is pertty bad in there

ppl just farming landmines

[daring folio]

The rest of the line appears irrelevant but here's the whole setup.

The problem line is the 3rd Xiranite in the bottom right, and it goes to a Mounting Unit in the top left.

The 1st xiranite line that goes to the Fitting unit in the top left appears to have no problems at all, and the 2nd line has some issues but not nearly as frequently as the 3rd one.

Currently it's all aligned and I haven't seen problems... But that's why I'm confused because I didn't expect any slowdowns at all and yet there would be intermittent problems.

[brittle sedge]

weird that looking at the spacing thats exactly 1s lag

we need experts

[subtle finch]

call the priest

[rare moon]

Third which third

[brittle sedge]

from the right

[rare moon]

Actually third from the left on the right

Split goes to fitting

Have you checked your xiranite production

[daring folio]

Yeah the Xiranite production has no problem. It's splitter lag, 100%

And amusingly it isn't happening right now? But I'm certain if I move back to the other setup then it will begin lagging again

[rare moon]

So you have extra xiranite in the depot and not just idling at 0 or something

[daring folio]

Yep, have like 30k right now. In fact, if the lag continues it only continues to stockpile up because the lag only reduces consumption.

[gleaming schooner]

Do I continue Gourds production if I'm done with Phase 1 or do I stop it and continue producing Heavy Xiranite?

[rare moon]

Go to heavy

Weird

Do you lag spike at all

[daring folio]

Not as far as I'm aware. Ping is around 20 ms but I occasionally receive frame drops that don't happen while I was looking at the lines.

And also the issue appears to be transient and gone because the exact same setup no longer lags lmao, I have no clue why this happens randomly.

[rare moon]

I've had lag that slowed my production visually but i don't think it affects the actual numbers. Could be just visual

[storm lichen]

Is the cuprium ore capped at 180 yield?

[daring folio]

Hm then maybe that's what's happening to me. @storm lichen yeah.

Thanks Eirzel.

[storm lichen]

Ty

[viscid plover]

😭

[rare moon]

Have to reconnect

I wanted to submit a bp to the event thing but i realized its for the aic support event

Mayb I'll put in my part 2 bp when its available

[vapid dock]

[marble yarrow]

stash it out

[rare moon]

Time to transfer it to v4

To make more

[viscid plover]

make heto bottle to flex on the normie

[bold linden]

is there like a mega base setup blueprint for wuling city 😄

[static isle]

240/m heto should automatically throttle to 180 once you run out of copper right?

no need for new setup?

[vapid dock]

yes it will balance itself

[static isle]

does the feedback acid clog or does it clog the pumps instead

[vapid dock]

but better to dump the byproduct back in the pool

[young phoenix]

how can you improve flow rate anyway

[static isle]

flow rate is capped 2/s
which is 120/m aka 4 lines of prod

[young phoenix]

forges are never gonna be at 100%

[tender thistle]

For those making 12/m heavy xiranite, what are you'll doing with the remainder 12/m xiranite?

[rare moon]

What remainder

[marble yarrow]

bro dropped SC 🥀

[marble yarrow]

180 xiranite minus 84x2

[marble yarrow]

are you matching your heavy xiranite with the same amount of hetonite?

[tender thistle]

I got enough stock to last me the week

I wanna get full 148k heavy xiranite to bang out the 148k hetonite hoard I have

[tender thistle]

My hetonite is only producing at 4.5/m - my depots are full so everything is going towards parts while I wait for phase 2

[rare moon]

Why is it 84 again

[tender thistle]

Purifier recycle inert

[marble yarrow]

60 + 24 xiranite with recycling

[rare moon]

Whats the inert recycling math

[tender thistle]

Sorry meant 22.5/m hetonite

[marble yarrow]

24 effluent + 1/4 of 24

[tender thistle]

So when phase 2 drops will steal 10.5/m for hetonite parts so normal + h.xiranite both 12/m

[solid quiver]

what was name of the site where I can lower bat consumption by fluctuating it

[tender thistle]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[vivid jolt]

is there an ouptost to unlock in the stockade or do I just have to run an energy line from sky king flats to start mining cuprium?

[vale topaz]

pull cable from jingyu to stockade

[bright zodiac]

stockade dont have outpost, next outpost is after stockade and when you reach 'marker stone' map

[swift steppe]

Basically have to route power from Sky King Flats yea, the big gate opening saves a lot of trouble.

[livid cairn]

what kind of stuff you make in late Wuling factory?

[stray warren]

Battery, Hetonite Parts/Component for selling/gearing, and Heavy Xiranite, which is temporarily disabled (for me) in favor of the event item

[marble yarrow]

[solid quiver]

what those have

[pulsar cypress]

Looks like graveyard..

[upper fiber]

here lies heavy xira...

[stray warren]

Honestly, i thought that was what they intend to make lmao

[livid cairn]

great, time to work then, thank you

[stray warren]

Honorable mention Liquid Heavy Xiranite for exploration QoL

[pulsar cypress]

This my report like 3 days ago.. a bit of everything.

If not making event gourd, im making a bit of lcw..

[livid cairn]

not enough space

[lofty lodge]

Ya know.... after tinkering with recycling cuprium black liquid into heavy xeranite. I feel like 4 SC battery farm can generate 4 Heavy xeranite farm by recycling all the leftover or byproduct material

[rare moon]

Oh ok so the inert purify is feeding into itself so thats why the reactor is eating 24 xiranite instead of the full 30 xiranite

[solid quiver]

where does 60/min cuprium go

[upper fiber]

how much heto needed per jaed gourd

[solid quiver]

unknown

[upper fiber]

have to check leek site again

[solid quiver]

probably gonna use 30/min or 15/min

[solid quiver]

there is?

I thought there weren't any

[upper fiber]

so need 6/min

[pulsar cypress]

120 to heto products, 60 to syringeA..

[upper fiber]

gonna be minus if running 4 for 24/min...

[young girder]

How are you getting 18 batteries ?

[pulsar cypress]

Meta brown sugar cube, piling up until almost full depot, spam make scw..

[upper fiber]

next phase i gonna make heavy xira 12/min, heto part 3/min, jade gourd 12/min,
that jade gourd better be worth 60+

can't buyout stock if not

[young girder]

I've been under the assumption it's worth 120

But I'm not sure where people got that from

[solid quiver]

what about xircon?

[rare moon]

Mostly just making more sc bats at 1.5/min, comps, or liquid bottles. Pick whatever you want

I'll prob just do bat

[pulsar cypress]

Have tons from before event. We have free 30/m xir production..

[small creek]

you can make 1.2 SCW/min i guess

[solid quiver]

oh it's just temporary settlement

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Just cleaning up old stocks..

[solid quiver]

you are basically using leftover xircon with meta originium dense cube to make bats

[rare moon]

1.5 sc is 12/min xira

[small creek]

nope

[rare moon]

12 inert make 3 effluent so we're at 15 effluent/min

[small creek]

oh you wanna recycle

yea i guess so then

[solid quiver]

where you getting 12 inert from

[small creek]

from 12 xira

[stray warren]

A complete wuling region is gonna be an ouroboros with all these recycling

[rare moon]

Cuz heavy only requires 84/min xirax2

[solid quiver]

I thought you were talking about in current situation

[rare moon]

So 12 xira to make 12 inert

[solid quiver]

are we bound to make 2 HC wuling and 1 med in 14/5?

[wheat forum]

Not in this date

[vivid jolt]

BEHOLD the nightmare of my very slapdash battery setup. How many thermal banks can this provide for?

I'm probably gonna have to restart from scrach later, but is there anything I can set up in the corner there?

[solid quiver]

4

but you only need 2 at most

[vivid jolt]

and the rest can be sold. Nice

[solid quiver]

thermal needs 1.5/min from each battery

[small creek]

this is lacking 1 more grinder

[solid quiver]

battery can be produced 6/min from single packaging unit

[vivid jolt]

Is it? it's 15 per so I assumed 3 is enough?

[wheat forum]

This is LC we’re looking yk

[small creek]

oh is this lc batt

i havent seen one in so long

yea this works

[vivid jolt]

oh there's bigger ones that need 4 I see.

[solid quiver]

nah its 3 you are right

[wheat forum]

And there’s HC battery which I speculated to need 5 belts

[solid quiver]

4 originium 1 heavy?

isn't that current

we probably need to make it densest at most

[wheat forum]

Rn SC is the biggest available with 4 Dense Originium Powder belts and 1 belt of Xircon which requires Cuprium mining

[small creek]

lets just say itll take up an entire outpost

we had 12/min HCV back then

I dont think we can do that again here

[solid quiver]

4 densest originium cube + heavy xircon

or just xircon

[pulsar willow]

excuse me why the actual fuck cuprium components gear costs twice as much as xiranite components gear

okay that doesn't make ANY SENSE

[solid quiver]

we are supposed to mine 2x cuprium

[pulsar willow]

25K for hetonite components

that's just insane what the fuck are they thinking

[solid quiver]

inflation?

[upper fiber]

they have no brain so can't think

ai running all stuffs

[pulsar willow]

yeah and heto comp gear is 25K is just stupid considering how expensive it's to craft already lol

I understand that we are probably supposed to craft xiranite comps because they are the most reliable

but this is really shitty

[solid quiver]

and fun part is we are providing raw material to the gearing industry

[vivid jolt]

there I did some modifications to make space for some cuprium part production

[solid quiver]

and we still pay them to make gears for us

[candid wadi]

is this on top of 13.25 sc wuling and 9 gourd ? I didnt think we had spare xiranite after this.

[pulsar willow]

we also pay a lot to artifice stuff

[solid quiver]

one pumping unit can provide to 2 units

so other pumping unit is useless

[vivid jolt]

I realized I'm missing a fitting unit

[solid quiver]

we are basically charity company but still paying for expenses of others

[cosmic swift]

anyone got a quick bomb bp

[vivid jolt]

you're right in that I don't need the converger but I do need the second pump for something going down off the screen

[solid quiver]

then seperate it

[vivid walrus]

So umm

How do I solve this?

The purification unit and expanded crucible take so long to make two fluids

Hetonite ain't shit how do I fix this

[upper fiber]

increase the input ofc

[rare moon]

Whats your goal max heto production?

[stray warren]

Using the expanded crucible to basically one man the entire hetonite process is neat, but purification needs 4 liquid for a 1:1 I/O

[rare moon]

If you want the purifier to run at max efficiency, you'd have to feed in 4 outputs of liquid

Which is 4 reactors

[ripe jacinth]

I mean even twice as much that's only what? 400 comps per set?

[vale topaz]

30/m hetonite = 7 crucible + 1 expanded + 2 purification unit.
at current state, can only use 5 crucibles and 1 expanded because lack of cuprium.
22-23/m production at current state without any other use of cuprium

[thorn idol]

With reactors and Sewerage (Xircon production) is there any way to make them use the sewerage if they have the rest of the inputs for Xircon Effulent rather than having them pass it through? or can i not have an out line for sewerage?
At the moment, i've got them in line bewteen Copium refineries and filling units, but unless i overload them and clog the sewer line past them they just pass the sewerage straight through and clog with too much liquid Xiranite rather than processing it

[rare moon]

22.5/min

[brittle sedge]

how about this

my prisoner crucibles set up (named by hikarin)

[rare moon]

You shouldnt pass sewage directly

Unless you want it split for half efficiency of two crucibles

The last crucible would have to clog up for the first to start using because pipe outputs max 2/s

But that would only clog up the xircon

[pulsar willow]

artificing has left the chat

[thorn idol]

Yeah, kinda that problem.
I got 4 refineries and a Hetonite crucible feeding two Xircon Crucibles in parallel, which then merge and go into waste treatment and filling units (to transport the sewage to a different AIC)
It was the only way i could get the crucibles to use the sewage rather than pass it on, by overloading the pipe on the far side of them

[copper juniper]

guys plz help me to build my first factory
ASIA

idk what to do
i took huge gaps and idk what to do

[pulsar willow]

give me a call I can help

got nothing to do for now anyways

[copper juniper]

i can't do over VC cuz idk when the game is on i can't stream at high quality

[rare moon]

The basics is setting up the miners at the minerals outside the factory. Then we have refining the ores in the factory

You can look at recipes of what they can make

[copper juniper]

oh ok

[thorn idol]

I'm feeding the inert effulent back through a pruifier (and back into the crucibles again) and the sewerage on a loop to try to get em to not waste it

[pulsar willow]

ok then I can give you some advice, it seems like you sent a video of sub-pac from originium research lab?

[copper juniper]

ig
the first factory
this one

[rare moon]

I feel like thats the core

Cuz unupgraded

[pulsar willow]

wait you just started playing or haven't been active that much?

[rare moon]

They skipped factory

[pulsar willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1478340206376517732/2026-02-28-11-43-202.gif

[copper juniper]

wasn't active much
🥹

[copper juniper]

yeah one way to put it

[rare moon]

But yea setup your originium refiners cuz you need those to build facilities

[copper juniper]

🫠

[pulsar willow]

yeah ok, firstly you should place mining rigs on every ore node so you have a lot of ore

[copper juniper]

ok
doing that 👌

[brittle sedge]

you can use that extra effluent to make heavy xiranite instead, and with my setup you dont need to loop sewage

[pulsar willow]

then start producing things that are needed on the outposts

[copper juniper]

the 3rd one only right?

[ruby sorrel]

the fun part is looping effluent tbh

[thorn idol]

But if you're constantly feeding sewage, won't it clog because the process also makes some?

[rare moon]

2nd for amethyst and originium. 3rd for ferrium

[tired burrow]

Does anyone know the output per minute of Xiranite Jade Gourd

[rare moon]

But doesn't really matter for v4

[brittle sedge]

in my setup the first crucible doesnt make any sewage, its only the second one, which can self-sustain

[copper juniper]

oh ok

[rare moon]

Most likely 6/min per packing

[thorn idol]

Ah, so it only uses what it produces itself then, I see...

[pulsar willow]

no!

[tired burrow]

I’ve really been doubting it though. I use four forges of the sky to make heavy xiranite 6 per minute. Both the capsule and component will have to come out from it

[pulsar willow]

the mk1 for originium and amethyst

mk2 for ferrium

it will save you a bunch of energy

[gusty wave]

Does anyone have a link to a guide showing best zipline and pylon placement for valley 4? I feel like im doing it the most unoptimal way

[copper juniper]

yep
removed them

[rare moon]

Reason is power management but you get a lot of power in v4 anyway once at max production but mental note

[copper juniper]

atp i don't want any mental tole 🫠

[rare moon]

Well hxiranite input would be 6/min and heto so final output would be 6/min

[gusty wave]

???

[rare moon]

I honestly havent done any ziplines in v4

[gusty wave]

Well the ziplines dont matter too much mainly where yall place relays and pylons to get all the ores

[rare moon]

Idk about optimal, its just as long as they get power to me

[brittle sedge]

place one, run toward destination, if reach max distance place another, repeat

[gusty wave]

But i cant seem to get to some ores bc of walls or gates

[rare moon]

V4 doesn't need much to overthink it

They're quest locked

[gusty wave]

Bruhhh

Also how do yall get so many creds? I need like 600k to upgrade my stations but i only have 17k

[graceful crescent]

Am i doing smt wrong here?

[rare moon]

Just time and patience

[jovial breach]

Dont output the top planter

[rare moon]

Bottom

[graceful crescent]

i used this setup thinking it would help get me more sandleaf. but i keep running out

[brittle sedge]

remove protocol stash

[jovial breach]

Oh yea

Bottom planter

[graceful crescent]

thats?

[rare moon]

The bottom one is over outputing

[jovial breach]

Bottom planter has 2 output

That's what's wrong

[graceful crescent]

so like this?

[rare moon]

Ye

[jovial breach]

Yep

[graceful crescent]

alright thanks

[jovial breach]

Dont touch the planter that is feeding the seeder

You can do whatever with the top planter

[brittle sedge]

feed back to seeder

[rare moon]

Also stock market

Have friends to sell at

Hf

[ruby sorrel]

super negative tbh

[brittle sedge]

10m gone for golden lung
worth it

[hoary crag]

if endfield would have an anime

are we gonna see john endfield or pengmin?

[rare moon]

Both

[ruby sorrel]

I think I need a couple weeks for lung still

[hoary crag]

lol

tbh I don't think we'll be getting a full song ost for the upcoming CC

at the very least I wouldn't be surprised so

[rare moon]

It's possible

[hoary crag]

yeah it is

the reason I don't think so is because it's an experimental CC

so it's in the waters of CC beta, CC 0, and pinch out

all of which don't have a full song ost

[stray warren]

https://youtu.be/rFnvx5MVBIU Well, not a full song, but still a banger

[hoary crag]

but the possibility does come from the fact that this is CC's first appearance in "mainstream" gacha, so it has to make a good impression

not to mention og ak fans (me included) glazing CC osts so much

[ruby sorrel]

I just realised the sprinklers say h2o on the sides

[hoary crag]

fr still a banger indeed, but ofc the one that plays there could still be just the instrumental version, or the very least, the battle OST

I'm pretty much leveling everyone outside my main team to lvl 80 just for this purpose lol

[stray warren]

HG still does it the HG way, most likely it's the song we get, an instrumental one, since all CC PV that include the song, has the actual song (or i'm forgetting a pv)

[hoary crag]

even tho ik I'm still gonna get my ass kicked regardless if my lineup's at lvl 1 or lvl 90

[hoary crag]

nope you're not forgetting one

so yeah for me I'm 90% certain we're only getting an instrumental ost this time

tho at the very least, we can look up to a guaranteed banger of a song in CC#1

[stray warren]

CC in Endfield is called Re-Ignition Experimental Operation, so it's definitely gonna be a playtest on how future CC will be readjusted, just like CC Beta

[hoary crag]

if we're talking re-adjusted, then it'd be more of pinch out than cc beta

basically testing a re-iteration of an existing system

tho I do hope that they don't add timers, or at least only have them as tags

[stray warren]

Yeah, badly worded, also gonna stop here so it doesn't go OOT

[hoary crag]

as long as it's related to endfield gameplay, it's fine.

CC is coming soon the endfield anyway, so this topic could be considered as speculation and very early prep

tho I'd agree for different reasons, cuz it's kinda pointless to talk about it when we know nothing about endfield CC other than speculating based on ak CC

[upper fiber]

what is reward for cc on ak

if useless stuff then just do basic one

[sick basin]

Free 6* pot

[copper juniper]

what's the difference between sc valley battery and LC?

[sick basin]

Sc gives more power, sells for more bills

[copper juniper]

ohk

[copper juniper]

so SC for bills and LC for power?

[sick basin]

No, sc for both

Hc>sc>lc

[copper juniper]

oki

[upper fiber]

that's basic reward or stage 18 reward

[sick basin]

Tf is stage 18

You just do 620 for trim medal and get enough currency to buy a pot

Or if u baby, just 600 for max reward

[upper fiber]

yeah, cc is nothing burger then for casual

[shell jewel]

Because of the event... i really messed up.. Those two conduits where the heavy xiranite line is? I had them connected to where the water treatment lines are on my xircon lines are.. needless to say, moving my xiranite from heavy xiranite to the gourds made those back up... woke up to zero batteries and zero power..

[ruby sorrel]

conduits are evil

[upper fiber]

that's why i did 16/min gourd, no hassle at all

[shell jewel]

this would have been zero hassle if I remembered to change the conduit out earlier..

And apparently my batteries just aren't working with the battery saver..?

[copper juniper]

from where should i even give it power

[pulsar cypress]

Cloud bottom left. There's new pac area.

[sick basin]

Aic in the map that youll unlock

Left bottom

Do story first tho

[copper juniper]

oh ok

[graceful crescent]

what about this. is this good? or can i do anything to improve this

[upper fiber]

middle bottom no water, you forgot pipe splitter

[graceful crescent]

oh right. other than that. is it good?

[upper fiber]

and delete those protocol stash on upper side, let them go to bottom one

a lot to improve, but it is good as long it is working

[ripe jacinth]

Question that I can't check rn - But since pipes have a carry capacity of 120/min, one pipe (fed with two pumps) should be able to supply to 4 buildings, right?

Coolio.
Part 2 - Do the conduit arrays (or w/e they're called) have a transfer speed between input / output? Or is it just 'whatever you put in gets pushed through'

[vale bramble]

so interesting that most people count throughput per minute here

[sick basin]

Speed
2/s normal
4/s for manifold, since they are 2 glued together

But pipes are still 2/s anyway

[ruby sorrel]

do we really know though, it's just whatever the pipes give them

[sick basin]

I mean
Even if it is 100/s we dont know nor is it relevant

[ruby sorrel]

unlimited throughput!!!

[ripe jacinth]

Okay, cool. That makes planning a lot more straightforwards then

I needa rebuild my shit anyway and consider 1 manifold can supply 8 buildings... Yeah that's gonna make life easier

[young stag]

if you’re really desparate you can pull power from origin lodespring

[ripe jacinth]

It's just the way that the monke brain likes the most. Since all the belts are 30/min, and all products are either 30 or 6 per min, it just works. Nice and even.

[sick basin]

So u wont like the 3/m we are getting then

[lofty lodge]

just need 3k gourd then all phase 1 material will done

[pulsar cypress]

Capped ferri and copi.. Sad..

[solid quiver]

why do you need that much yazhen?

[ripe jacinth]

They're using it for Carbon

[solid quiver]

wouldn't be better to include carboning with them

[ripe jacinth]

Yes but /shrug.
They could just have some spare space or smth or just using it to plan out a new design. But generally ye. Less protocol stashes the better

[wispy grove]

i think its not worth saving hetonite

youll ran out of heavy xira before you even reach half the hetonite u saved

[marble yarrow]

isnt hetonite 1:1 with heavy xira for jade gourd?

[wispy grove]

yep

once you cap both heto and heavy xira

youre existing heto production will out pace your heavy xira

[marble yarrow]

true

[ancient pier]

Produce heto parts to cover that

[glass ocean]

So, for some reason, my xiranite production decays after a while even if i make sure everything is properly topped up. Is there something wrong with my farm? Anything highlighted is one farm minus the bus port

[wispy grove]

yep, maybe "not worth" isnt the right term. its more like "its okay not to save heto"

[lofty lodge]

sandleaf i think

[ancient pier]

sandleaf needs 1 more planter

[glass ocean]

Needs a 2:1 on sandleaf to jincao?

[upper fiber]

not enough sandleaf powder

that only produce 1.5, you need 2

[glass ocean]

So 2:2?

[upper fiber]

2 planter 1 seedpicker

[glass ocean]

Ah

Does jincao need the same

[upper fiber]

nope

[glass ocean]

And would i run both planters to shredders or just one

[pulsar cypress]

The sandleaf belt is 1-0-1-0.. 1 leaf grind to 3, so the split is 2/1.. The route that only 1 enter it slow down the production.

[upper fiber]

plant1->seedpicker->plant1 and plant2->shredder

[glass ocean]

Alr

[ancient pier]

yea, but if you are producing 2 xiranite you could get away with 3 planter and 2 seedpick instead of 4 planter 2 seedpick

[glass ocean]

So one plant to seed, one to shred

Got it

[lofty lodge]

plant + seed = infinite plant, then another planter to make sand

[upper fiber]

why not up the scale and if you are producing 3 xiranite you could get away with 4 planter and 2 seedpick instead of 6 planter 3 seedpick

[ancient pier]

The bigger the lesser

my english ain't englishing

[upper fiber]

[tacit quarry]

back to normal production

[hoary crag]

imagine

[pulsar cypress]

Oh, just realized wrong server. XD

[hoary crag]

imagine

[hoary crag]

Risk/Challenge based rewards

• Event Medals
• seasonal skin (I doubt this will be in endfield)
• base decor (would be the equivalent of the figures we get in dijiang)

Event Shop

• universal 5 and 6* pot tokens (imagine operator pot tokens but you can use them on anyone from said rarity)
• loads of mid-high tier upgrade materials

You don't need to clear max risk to get all the rewards, which I think will also be a thing in endfield. One thing from og ak that I think will be a trend in Endfield as well would be that the community would encourage you to at least get the trimmed medal for each season, which is the reward that needs the highest risk to complete.

[brittle horizon]

Hello quick question, what's the mainstream optimal production lines for valley 4, max development?

enough to outproduce the outposts

[hoary crag]

18/min HC valley battery
18/min Buck Capsule A

[upper fiber]

if only trim medal then it is good

[hoary crag]

you can try doing some extra stuff with the amethysts but you don't really have to as the lines mentioned above will match outpost production

[brittle horizon]

thx

[hoary crag]

and when I meant you don't need to hit max risk to get all rewards, I meant it.

in old CC, trimmed medal is by getting risk 18 during the first week, with max risk being around 32-39
in current CC, you get it by clearing risk 620 anytime during the event, the max risk of which ranges from 850-900+

[brittle horizon]

would 12/min hc battery and 18/min buck capsule work fine as a temp solution

[hoary crag]

yup, but you won't be hitting outpost pace

same goes for 18 battery, 12 capsule

[brittle horizon]

I see, I'll have to figure out something, I try not to use blueprints so this is gonna be a challenge, wish me luck

[hoary crag]

I'm predicting that skilled players can get the trimmed medal even with lvl 40 characters

although the point of CC is to challenge yourself even beyond trimmed medal level

and that's the point when even the people who complained UM was too easy will complain that CC is hard

[vital narwhal]

if you want to have permanent amethyst consumption, can make buck capsule c out of four machines

[sacred berry]

maybe try to utilize amethyst

[upper fiber]

i haven't build any parry unit yet, hope i won't need them

[elfin elm]

How did someone can get 1000 originium/minutes?

[sacred berry]

increase regional development, and rig every originium deposit

[brittle horizon]

I used my space sub-optimally so I'll need to rehaul so make space for the new production line depot outputs

[hoary crag]

btw I'll show you smth in #off-topic

[sacred berry]

have u unlocked all sub aic in v4?

[elfin elm]

But mine only max 600/minutes

[brittle horizon]

yup maxxed

[elfin elm]

And fully max development

[sacred berry]

i think u only need 1 sub aic to maximize all amethyst line

[sacred berry]

checked all over again from map? increasing regional development unlock new vein sometimes

[brittle horizon]

my main issue is the planting units, I need so many of these to keep up with production demands and I'm really bad at placing those optimally

[elfin elm]

Already done that twice now, every thing is rigged

[sacred berry]

i see, why dont u try putting planting(down)-seed(up)-planting(down) side by side with no gap and then just connect them?

[sacred berry]

thats odd, its either regional development not maxed, new veins not rigged, or some rigs are not powered

[glass ocean]

Is 26x26 a large area for a xiranite farm to cover? It doesn’t actually cover it all, but its what it says in bulk select

[sacred berry]

or maybe, ur originium is full that its clogged

[elfin elm]

Actually I kinda need that 400 ish /minutes originium

Is there some features that I don't know yet?

[hoary crag]

you don't

[sonic summit]

max ori valey is 560

[hoary crag]

max ore yields in valley (theoretical yield)

[elfin elm]

Owh I see so that's was the max huh

[sonic summit]

btw what you use for the rest 20/ min ori ?

[glass ocean]

Did i build this like an idiot

[sonic summit]

yeep idiot

[elfin elm]

Well kinda tho

[twilit shard]

You have a few really long conveyor belts

[sonic summit]

make 3 belt out from sandleaf shreder 2 for the grinding unit 1 free to use

[glass ocean]

Wait, i have an idea, i just saw smth i could possibly do, i’ll ask later

Flatten the belt from sandleaf shredder and start a second line there

And the pipe

[sonic summit]

1 sand leaf shreder can feed 3 grinder like this

[elfin elm]

Maybe make it saperate, xiranite, grinding unit, and carbon makers into one and then one focus on the Sandleaf

[sonic summit]

nah.... go all in one

mine is 6 forge in 1 sub pac

[twilit shard]

Building the source outwards usually solves all problems

[vital narwhal]

usually the densest designs minimize separation of production lines

[sonic summit]

should i save my extra 15/ min xira or just make 1/ min gourd

[vital narwhal]

but if you're just starting out just focusing on the fundamentals of ratios is fine

[twilit shard]

Day 2 of being a canonical Hetonite hater

[sonic summit]

nah i seperate xircon and battery got to much to deal with esp piping and xira unloader

[vital narwhal]

I mean this is fine though because the xircon needs depot unloaders anyway unless you are doing some insane AIO cooking with forge direct feed into crucible

[tall tangle]

i have this and occasionally launch 15k worth xira gourds

[sonic summit]

my xira output is maxed

[sonic summit]

i do cooking on side to make 1,5 sc battery though

[tall tangle]

any extra will replenish depot slowly. and you can treat saved xira as usable supply instead of thinking in /min's

[sonic summit]

soo i just turn off this ?

[ripe jacinth]

Ngl I just hope that they eventually let us link conduits in builder mode

[sonic summit]

i dont use one tbh

[tall tangle]

up to you. imo it's too slow and with limiters i can get exact amount of event money i want

[ripe jacinth]

I don't either currently but being able to run 8 buildings from one manifold is gonna make designing shit so much easier

[tall tangle]

(but soon my heavy xira caps and i might change approach)

[sonic summit]

BTW should i hold both aic stock or just sell my sc battery to grab it all?

[vital narwhal]

hxira capping just means it's time for protocol stash spam

[sonic summit]

manual transfer to valley

[tall tangle]

not that fanatical about it, so nah. 68k is enough

[sonic summit]

i stack my heto on valey tbh

[vital narwhal]

I feel like you can just stick with wuling cap unless your v4 is also full of hxira

bc heto prod so much faster

[marble yarrow]

guess whose taking my facility limit slots in wuling city

[twilit shard]

Bro what are you doin?

[marble yarrow]

this was a thing in version 1.1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1484452464080982026/Endfield_2026-03-20_15-22-43.mp4?ex=69f5a697&is=69f45517&hm=db172ffe2f6d0c892dbf456a2281f684535669b81fb5081bf73269dac839c289&

[twilit shard]

I see

[marble yarrow]

they cannot escape back then

but now they can

[nova osprey]

its okay our nukes will destroy them

[nova osprey]

ah damn xD

[marble yarrow]

i maybe not use this alluvium for a while so i can free up facility placement

[iron spoke]

does this work with other alluviums?

[marble yarrow]

no, they escape now

idk when they have allowed them to escape the trap

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1484436845684330556/Endfield_2026-03-20_14-20-35.mp4?ex=69f5980b&is=69f4468b&hm=33c48cc92204e12a17d4e822666404a6771a4d19423116bf00ce548318cc38a5&

qingbo alluvium

[sage nymph]

it was a bit before 1.2 when this start happening

you could run to the windmill and hide behind it

[gentle sentinel]

Hooo so if you cover all grid they'll stay

[meager stream]

stash friends facility 💀 🗿

[gentle sentinel]

At this point use surge instead of those bombs