aic-factory

[zenith radish]

these gourd event is pain...

[shadow void]

probalby their backend servers or something like that

[limpid pawn]

most likely heavy xira parts and bottle

[nova osprey]

might be a lag prevention thing as well

[limpid pawn]

for phase 2

[shadow void]

those are event only tho

and before Test Area unlocks

[limpid pawn]

hope it gives more ferrium and cuprium

[nova osprey]

i wonder how much hc wuling batts will give in terms of power

[limpid pawn]

5k

[shadow void]

Yeah, i'd say around 5-6k

[nova osprey]

not enough

need unlimited powah

[limpid pawn]

nah

[nova osprey]

okay my brain fried now

[limpid pawn]

1 sc and 1 hc powerbank is enough to run the factory

[ripe jacinth]

Facility limit is a pain, sure, but i wonder how the regional AIC limit will be recieved when it does go live

[marble yarrow]

true. i actually minimized everything. i eliminated 1-length pipes and small-length belts, optimized the pylon usage, minimized every logistic units

[static isle]

240/m hetonite setup should autothrottle to 180/m once I ran out of stashed copper right?

[shadow void]

probably a non-issue as Valley IV is already a forgotten place

[vapid granite]

I just woke up to sell my products, realize i have 0 batteries readied, and now im fearing for my life atm

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

1-length pipes are shitty and eat limits, so you must put pipe splitters/convergers directly next to facilities

[zenith radish]

so many uses xiranite that battery is one

[limpid pawn]

send this to endfielder

[zenith radish]

then these gourd event..

[shadow void]

If i could send ppl SCW batteries I would

[nova osprey]

send that to perlicka

[limpid pawn]

waking up to 0 battery made is scary as shit

[zenith radish]

after xiranites turn zero...GG no more power..

[zenith radish]

happened to me now..

[limpid pawn]

[subtle finch]

feeling bullish

[shadow void]

Hvy Xiranite go bbrrrrr

[limpid pawn]

is phase 2 gonna use a different currency

since we can prepare beforehand yk

[shadow void]

is it?

[limpid pawn]

cant we trade alotta gourd b4 phase 2 to farm the currency

for it

[shadow void]

Yeah, but the Xiranite to Gourd to Cert ratio is way better for the Jade Gourds than Xiranite Gourd

If you started the event making 6/m Xiranite Gourds you'd be done with Phase 1 in ~5days, and if you've been making the 6/m Hvy Xiranite you'll atleast beable to get the trimmed medal during Phase 2. I wanna assume if you do 6/m Xiranite/Jade Gourds throughout the event you'll beable to buy most if not all of the shop and get the trim

[nova osprey]

should be, 20k jade gourds is expected to be 600k certs, and you're gonna be doing way more than 20k gourds

im on track for 180k gourds

[shadow void]

so, even if you don't stock up, and only cut production of things to make those gourds at 6/m, it should be fine.

[static isle]

man I hate one-unit pipes bc sometimes they do this shit and don't show the liquid

[vapid granite]

QUICK HOW TO DO EMERGENCY POWER BUTTON

[subtle finch]

[shadow void]

I dont think its implemented yet

[vapid granite]

what

[shadow void]

mass remove your pylons

[nova osprey]

they talked about it, it's not in game yet

[vast iron]

Emergency powernt

[vast iron]

I mean surely you still have batteries in the aic, right

How did it even happen

[subtle finch]

surely

[dreamy jungle]

tangtang ate the batts

[marble yarrow]

look at your xira bp taking half of my base

[vapid granite]

I think it would be faster if i just restarted my entire fucking factory...

[dreamy jungle]

[nova osprey]

do you not have any batteries anywhere??? none at v4??

[dreamy jungle]

can you even build this with limit?

[vapid granite]

im lazy

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

yes. ive already placed everything in my base, and reactors as forge placeholder

[shadow void]

. . .sounds like someone else i know

[marble yarrow]

(i ate 30 xira for effluent tho, im not yet stealing from Test Area)

[nova osprey]

the duality of man, the overachiever and the lazy one

[dreamy jungle]

you already have the route built?

[shadow void]

all that for 3 less SC batts, +2 Heto Parts and +6 Hvy?

or do you make some elsewhere?

[marble yarrow]

only the sewage going to test area, the back route is kinda half already

[subtle finch]

the thermal banks are already subtracted

[river wadi]

when using expanded crucible to make xircon how do i deal with the sewage

[marble yarrow]

yeah -3 sc due to 2 thermal

[subtle finch]

it's triggering me a lot that the top 3 forge are not mirrored

[marble yarrow]

wait lmaoo i can actually rotate them

[nova osprey]

provide half the sewage needed

the sewage made when you make xircon will refeed itself into the crucible

[shadow void]

mmmmm Sewage

[vapid granite]

Yeah since is back up, everything is slower- not producing enough carbon anymore and idk why

ima just gonna restart the whole thing again

[ripe jacinth]

Some of your planters there ain't carboning

[nova osprey]

some of the planters aren't plantering at all

[vapid granite]

o ur rite

[nova osprey]

what's your aic report for sandleaf like

[fringe oasis]

How's this setup?

[nova osprey]

and carbon

[vapid granite]

[nova osprey]

your sandleaf killed your factory just letting you know

and will continue to kill your factory

fix your protocol stashes

don't mix inputs for them

[vapid granite]

its crazy you knew it was the protocol stashes

i already made a seperate one for them

[nova osprey]

nice

[vapid granite]

since they clogged the other ones from having carbon

[shadow void]

[nova osprey]

i think you just remove one packager here

yeah you do

but it looks good

[ripe jacinth]

.goddamn it it's the other one

.itworked2

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1394349737511096330/image-172.png

[fringe oasis]

I mean I'm trying to make a barely more than 1.5 efficiency production line so I don't literally double the amount of depot unloaders

[nova osprey]

.itworked

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086672418832394/1394710066300719184/F_edmin_cry.png

[vapid granite]

im gonna come to you for all my problems now thx

[nova osprey]

xD

you can

[weary python]

wondering, has anyone managed to create a self-sustained Xiranite production that is less than 16x26 ?

[nova osprey]

hmm i see

[fringe oasis]

I think I was going for a uh...

[nova osprey]

why 16x26 specifically

[fringe oasis]

2 to 1.6-1.8 output or something? Idk, my math is not mathing

but my diagramming is diagramme

[vapid granite]

Yeild for this was 12 a min right? Im prob gonna rework my factory since things are going wrong little by little

[fringe oasis]

One of the dense orig output is split into two packagers

[nova osprey]

indeed 12/min

[fringe oasis]

but same amount of steel parts

and one full dense orig

Idk what ratio that makes

[nova osprey]

6/min to 3/min?

[weary python]

cause best i could do is 16x26 and i'm a space optimising freak so i'm trying to see if it is possible to make even more compact

[vale bramble]

best i could do is 17x27

[nova osprey]

rn each half is making 3/min which is the same as one packager at 6/min

[ripe jacinth]

HC bats use a 2:3 of Steel Parts: Dense Orig

[nova osprey]

i mean someone did 7 in one subpac

[fringe oasis]

Oh damn wait so I needed one more dense orig to make a more than half

[ripe jacinth]

You've created two packagers that work at exactly 1/2 efficiency

[fringe oasis]

Bahaha, wait so if I add one more and split it into the two, what's the ratio for that?

[nova osprey]

it's still going to 3/min, you need more steel too

[fringe oasis]

Oh

[vale bramble]

could be smaller by a tile in each direction if i shift the farms if I wasn't lazy enough

[fringe oasis]

Wait I mean

[weary python]

ima look into it, i like the idea of a xiranite only subpac

[fringe oasis]

2:2.5 + 2:2.5

4:5?

Yeah something that

[shadow void]

https://enkad.enka.network/ you can use this if you you wanna play around with building outside of game

[nova osprey]

so two 5/min hc batts?

[fringe oasis]

yeah, so I free up space on the depot bus by using less unloaders but don't exactly half the production

[nova osprey]

for total 10/min hc

[fringe oasis]

I just dump the output of one dense orig to two packagers

[ripe jacinth]

... Why not just have one at 100% and a second at 50% then?

[nova osprey]

I'm not really understanding the point of this but i mean @.@

if that's what you want to do

[fringe oasis]

Oh yeah wait a min.... I overthink.

[nova osprey]

that will give you 9/min batteries

[fringe oasis]

The end goal is to free up space on the depot bus to utilize more depot unloaders for other production lines that isn't the battery

By splitting at least one component generators to two producers

[nova osprey]

i see, it's just that when you try to half or reduce production lines like these you actually increase the amount of depot unloaders

[fringe oasis]

I meant in comparison to making two 100% efficient producers

[nova osprey]

unless you have smth very specific in mind, which im guessing you aren't trying to do 18/min hc

[fringe oasis]

you dunk a few percentage points

Wait lemme work this out... one sec. I'm quite bad at math so I'm just testing stuff

Two ferrium unloaders make 1 steel

2 orig makes a dense orig, you need 3 to match 2 steel, 6 to 2

[dreamy jungle]

i have a 15x25 if we're talking about conduitless xira bp

[fringe oasis]

6 Orig / 2 Ferrium

You need 16 unloaders to make 2 100% efficiency HC bats

2 sandleaf to fuel the grinders

So 18 total

[nova osprey]

sandleaf doesn't have to be loaded, but assuming you want to then yes

[fringe oasis]

Yeah I can just put a seeder planter cycle beside the HC bats

So we remove 2 unloaders now

[weary python]

hell yeah, would you kindly send me the code ? 🙂

[fringe oasis]

Lemme see...

Ah

[dreamy jungle]

#1478505541147037847 message

[nova osprey]

so now you have 16 unloaders

one 100% and one 50% would be 12 unloaders

one 100% is 8 unloaders

one at 50% is 4 unloaders, etc

[fringe oasis]

If I remove 2 of the originium unloaders, and split one of them to two grinders...

The ratios get a bit complex on the odd numbers, 3 remove, split 2

or 4 remove, split 3

[weary python]

tyvm!

[regal mauve]

-add one setup for event collection
-come back 8 hours later after work to check on things
-whole factory at at 0 backup power

Just another day

[nova osprey]

split one to two grinders? similar to your setup?

[nova osprey]

skill issue ngl @.@

[icy garden]

No one is really taking this?

[nova osprey]

give it some time, it's an order in a sea of v4 orders

[ripe jacinth]

30 for two, actually.
20 without Sandleaf

[icy garden]

Ik, I'm just surprised cuz prior to that its always being taken like within 5min

[nova osprey]

just bad luck then

[fringe oasis]

Wh... whoa

Ogey my math wasn't matfffing

[ripe jacinth]

The steel parts are 4 ferrium / 2 Sandleaf
Dense powder's 6 originium / 3 Sadleaf

[nova osprey]

okay i see what you mean, but even then it's 5 unloaders for half a battery

so the ratio stays the same

[shadow void]

Not really anymore, since you can filter

[nova osprey]

you can still filter but the way orders are given functions the same iirc

it's just the filtering order that's different

[fringe oasis]

I wanna find a setup where you can reduce the unloader count less than x2 full prod., at that number's maximum efficiency... I'm not sure how to word this right

Uhhh...

[young stag]

update: fuck

[nova osprey]

that's physically impossible

[fringe oasis]

No no

I mean

[icy garden]

Its a good luck really, since less people are doing deliveries, I know I can get 3/3 within minutes

[fringe oasis]

I don't mean reduce the unloaders but still have x2 production,
I meant reduce the unloaders, and have a setup that runs at the maximum efficiency of those reduced unloader count

[nova osprey]

very true

[nova osprey]

yeah like i said it's going to be physically impossible

[fringe oasis]

And the number I'm looking for is in between 150 and 200, like 170%

[nova osprey]

your current setup

[nova osprey]

this one

is 10 unloaders

for two 50% efficiency

you can do

[fringe oasis]

Yeah I did exactly half it, and that's an accident because I was trying to find 60-70%, not 50

[nova osprey]

60-70% is impossible

50% is possible sorry but 60-70% is impossible

50% is possible

but at the same time you have one grinder operating at 50% of the time

you can do a 67% efficiency setup by doing 1.5 steel : 2 origidust

but thats low efficiency depot unloader

[fringe oasis]

Oh I got the word I'm looking for

What is the amount of unloaders I can remove from a full 2x production, without having diminishing returns (Like 1:2 ratio since that has a common denominator that can be compressed into 1 full 100%). That one

[nova osprey]

yeah

and i said it's impossible

only one that's possible is 50% that's it

[fringe oasis]

I'm sure there's a mathematical solution somewhere

[nova osprey]

you can do 1 at 100% and another at 50% for functionally two 75 efficiency

or 2 at 100% and 1 at 50% for functionally three at 83% efficiency

[nova osprey]

I don't think you understand the math problem you're dealing with in the first place, that's the inherent problem

if you want one factory at 67% (or 2/3) efficiency you need 2/3 originium unloaders, which is doable since we have 6 unloaders for full efficiency. 4 unloaders is 2/3

but you also need 2/3 ferrium

this means two unloaders running at full efficiency and the other running at 2/3rds efficiency

in your words, this is diminishing returns

strictly speaking if you want to divide it by any amount you need to focus on the common divisors between 4 and 6, 4 ferrium and 6 originium

there's only one number that works and that's 2, for 50%

any other way to split it, in 3, etc gives you at least one depot unloader at sub 100% efficiency

[spice owl]

What are people doing for the gourd event? I can't actually figure out what's the best pathway for stockbills

I'm slamming all 8 forges into xiranite and then making nothing but gourds, but it's not keeping pace with the overall stockbill income in both locations

Should I be making xircon -> wuling batteries, still? once I have enough event currency to buy out the shop

[nova osprey]

i am literally ignoring the gourds until phase 2 begins

except for excess xiranite

that goes to gourds

[spice owl]

so that means, what, you had a setup with... 4 forges on xiranite->batteries? and then the other forges going into gourds?

[subtle finch]

you need to be more specific, for example if i wanna do 1.5x gourd efficiency production
that requires 135 xir/30 = 4.5 lanes round up to 5 lanes minimum
1.5 fitting and moulding units round up to 2

[nova osprey]

nope i have 4 for batteries, 3 for hxira, and 1 for gourds

i didn't modify my factory at all except for a gourd maker with an item control port to limit xiranite usage by the gourd maker

I'll have 180k jade gourds by end of event which should be more than enough to buy out shop and get an extra bunch of stock bills

will actually have enough jade gourds to full cap my wuling stock bills actually

from 0 to 100

[nova osprey]

for reference

datamined jade gourd data says that each gourd will give 30 certs per

by the time phase 2 rolls around I'll have 200k certs from standard gourds

then 20k jade gourds will give me enough to get both the badge and trim

the 116k is needed to go from 0 to 14million stock bills post event

the remaining 44k gourds can go towards event page shop during event

regardless I'll have enough to buy out the shop and get the trim once it arrives

[vital narwhal]

3 for hxira? is 4 for batteries turning into 13.25?

[fringe oasis]

What's the output rate of an unloader?

[vital narwhal]

30/min, 1/2sec

[fringe oasis]

ogey

[spice owl]

that's a fair assessment, I thought gourds would supplant batteries but it seems like not

[fringe oasis]

0.5 per second... hmm

1 for 2

gotcha

[nova osprey]

unfortunately not the regular gourds, the jade gourds will probably be way better though

[nova osprey]

no I'm just doing 12/min

2 forges for xira then last forge to take battery waste + 12/min xira for hxira

I haven't optimized my factory that much but should get on it when I've got more time to finish it

[vital narwhal]

oh I was confused where the inert->active effluent byproduct was going lol

[nova osprey]

understandable

I've got extra 30/min xira which I'm gonna want to turn to 1.25/min sc batts when i get the chance to optimize

[subtle finch]

this is my 12/min heavy production that minimizes the outpost deficit as much as possible, so i burn fewer battery reserves
it should hold until phase 2

[nova osprey]

btw keep in mind that my numbers are based off the fact that i stockpiled hxira pre event and have been stockpiling throughout the event too, the numbers will vary depending on how much hxira you have atm

[digital vessel]

The humble depot

[nova osprey]

[nova osprey]

humbly saving us 10 power

[subtle finch]

they're unloaders, it aint saving shit

[split portal]

today i discovered you can use protocol stashes in storage mode to transport items faster

on second thought maybe its not that useful

[subtle finch]

technically yes, but throughput is the same

[split portal]

yeah i just realized that

[nova osprey]

oh im dumb lmao

i thought those were loaders not unloaders

[lime stag]

Is there a preferred creator for maximized setups with the factory?

[split portal]

actually i think the protocol stashes could be helpful in getting slowly-produced items into the depot quicker

[subtle finch]

kyostinv, renegade or sciel

[jovial breach]

I like Sciel

(no homo)

Haven't heard about renegade tho

[keen river]

their best emergent usage is arbitrary x-y balancer

[marble yarrow]

(i need to make people join the dark side and have their acid pipes in main aic)

[shut hearth]

Bro no one wouldve even thought that till u suggested it

[keen river]

can you chain the conduits or do you need 2 pipes every 200m?

[nova osprey]

i mean you need a pipe to chain conduits

[split portal]

can you simplify that please

[nova osprey]

just a single one

or two if you're using the manifold at 4/s

[lime stag]

Oh I should have thought of that you can chain manifolds

[keen river]

like, this event, your gourd production needs 3 belts (2 for bottle, 1 for part), if you want to feed whole thing using only 2 belts of xiranite (because we have 8 forges only), you can connect 2 belts into stash and then take 3 belts from stash

[marble yarrow]

manifold best way for acid main base since its 2 pipes

[keen river]

and whole thing runs at reduced rate but good enough

[nova osprey]

people who do acid to main base scare me (yes you scare me)

[jovial breach]

And use maximum pipe length when chaining to save protocol limit

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

manifold inlet > 200 meter > manifold outlet > 80 meter pipe > manifold inlet

[jovial breach]

You can even make infinite pipe

[keen river]

yeah, i hoped we could jus do this, but alas no luck

[marble yarrow]

waste of range lmaooo

[keen river]

at this point might as well use one of infinite pipe techs tbh

[marble yarrow]

a 80 meter pipe in between since it will only count on 1152 limit per piece

[subtle finch]

we could do this instead 😳

[nova osprey]

lmao i love this

[rare moon]

Should add the ornaments

[jovial breach]

Why stop at only 80m

[nova osprey]

i want to make a bad joke but i think i'd get smited by the mods

[keen river]

might explain why Ardashil is so hellbent on killing everyone with blight, someone blighted his fav view with factory buildings

[nova osprey]

[rare moon]

im making text. Idk how to do some letters

[marble yarrow]

i cant make full lengths of different direction pipes outside aic that i can reverse

[shut hearth]

"Me and who 👉👈 😗"

[nova osprey]

has to be a significant other , cant be friends

[jovial breach]

Yeah sadly they need to be at same attitude to do reverse trick

Otherwise they would not connect

[marble yarrow]

but inside base its a great shi

[shut hearth]

Btw for protocol limit, is it shared between area within aic + outside too?

[nova osprey]

facility limit is shared, protocol limit isn't iirc

[shut hearth]

I should've tested wayyy before but never needed to

[rare moon]

+outside just within the current map

[subtle finch]

~you have to let me go

[nova osprey]

noOOOO

holy shit this is gold though

[marble yarrow]

outside aic for protocol limit, but whole map counts to facility limit

[nova osprey]

also lowkey flexing

[jovial breach]

P5 flex

Mods get him

[nova osprey]

smite himmmmmm

[subtle finch]

smh

[shut hearth]

Wait so if i spammed tons of relays and ziplines outside, the number of stuff i can place in my aic decreases?

[rare moon]

Yes

[nova osprey]

yes

that's why i don't do mega bases

[jovial breach]

The limit is 500 something?

[subtle finch]

that's it, you're getting conduit ntr instead

[nova osprey]

think it's 512 or smth like that

[shut hearth]

Yeah it doesnt make sense i guess

[marble yarrow]

wuling city
350 protocol
512 facility
128 pipe logistic
1152 belt and pipes

[nova osprey]

my man is witnessing two conduits pumping one another

[marble yarrow]

(i actually reached every limit while building 12 forge main aic)

[nova osprey]

do you not have any ziplines around your map

[marble yarrow]

but i just optimized redundant 1-length pipes and belts

[shut hearth]

TWELVE? Bro is a time traveler

[nova osprey]

yeah he's prepping his base big time

[marble yarrow]

i havent removed them, i have 26 ziplines

[nova osprey]

damn

and you still got space huh

[marble yarrow]

23 delivery and 3 mountaintop ones

[nova osprey]

fun

[jade temple]

i knew about protocol and facility but limit on belt and pipes LoL i guess XD

[marble yarrow]

good thing theres the enkad planner to jumble everything first

[marble yarrow]

i placed reactors in their places for the meantime

i just tried it to test if it can be in limit

luckily it can be 😭

but i know someone can make more efficient if they build it from scratch

(only if they start becoming evil and pipe acid there)

[jovial breach]

No piss allowed in wuling city

[nova osprey]

too late

[barren sparrow]

yo anyone got da SC Wuling batt blueprints ?

I have brain damagae

[subtle finch]

im sorry that happened

[jovial breach]

Pick your poison in #1461542035617091681

[twilit shard]

Hetonite SUUUUUCKS

[fringe oasis]

Aight, I probably made this more cursed than it's supposed to be....

[twilit shard]

Why are the conveyor belts so long

[fringe oasis]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........... yes

🙃

[keen river]

If it works, its good

[fringe oasis]

We'll see

I'll test run it rn

The line worked... 1 of 2 anyway

[twilit shard]

Should run it at 100% efficiency but I digress

[nova osprey]

50% efficiency

[twilit shard]

Yeh

[fringe oasis]

HAHAHAHAHH HAHAHAHA

[twilit shard]

[subtle finch]

[nova osprey]

[twilit shard]

Brother WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY

[nova osprey]

idk they wouldn't listen to me earlier

just let them do their own thing

[final sierra]

acidfall 🤩

[fringe oasis]

I don't know where that grinding unit go anymore LMFAO

[nova osprey]

[fringe oasis]

I used this thing

[subtle finch]

v4 isn't really the place to start dealing with partial efficiency units yet

[twilit shard]

Agreed

Everything should be 100% efficiency

Excess ferrium is transferred to Wuling

[nova osprey]

okay yeah but that doesn't complete what you originally planned for max efficiency depot unloaders

[fringe oasis]

Problem.

0 / 80k originium
I need to cut down on my originium

[nova osprey]

how tf are you using that much originium

[fringe oasis]

Uh... yes.

Because yes.

xD

[twilit shard]

Every port is worth 30 orignium

[nova osprey]

560 originium is more than enough for 3 100% lines and still have 20/min left over

[twilit shard]

Yeah

[fringe oasis]

No I mean, I filled every subPAC with their own production

[nova osprey]

how much originium are you generating in your aic report?

[fringe oasis]

So every single other AIC in V4 is also consuming originium

Yield 560/m

[twilit shard]

I only use sub PAC to produce ground powder

[nova osprey]

[fringe oasis]

My usage went up to 600 something, 700 I think

[twilit shard]

Or dense powder

[fringe oasis]

So I zeroed out

[nova osprey]

[fringe oasis]

Behold, my valley 4

[nova osprey]

your goals are beyond my understanding

[fringe oasis]

xD

Wait here

I still haven't completed this

It's my production line

[twilit shard]

I’m sitting here like 💀

[nova osprey]

same lmao

[twilit shard]

Give me a moment to open my factory statistics

[twilit shard]

I can give you the statistics of my factory for V4

[nova osprey]

holy shit 12 thermal banks??

[fringe oasis]

So I deleted all the SC Valley production, my originium yield went down by barely below the yield line

also some of the other stuff

And the... wait

no it was the entire HC batteries

[twilit shard]

amethyst parts and steel parts are clogged, but here's this

[nova osprey]

what are you even trying to do though

[jovial breach]

wtf...

how

[nova osprey]

[twilit shard]

I am an avid pipe hater because of this

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrow also i think i found a way to do the reverse trick outside aic

[fringe oasis]

My subPACs are just offsite producers for buck capsules and steel parts, like this

since I offload to the subPACs to not clog the core AIC

[vital narwhal]

If elevation is sufficiently different, pipes can overlap without logistic

[nova osprey]

damn good to know

[fringe oasis]

Around... 20? Idk, I stopped counting. Just know that I have surplus power that I really wish I could transfer to Wuling right now

[twilit shard]

wait 7.12? you don't need all that power

[fringe oasis]

I'm basically overproducing everything and underperforming the production efficiency xD

[jovial breach]

man i swear to god

[twilit shard]

you can remove a thermal bank

[jovial breach]

the pipe is there

but the pipe is also not there

i hate this

[twilit shard]

Iirc I have a blueprint for dense powder

[fringe oasis]

3 lines probably, I have 2 lines that bring it to 5k and few SC battery lines to pump it to 7, I have a surplus so yeah, I can remove some

[twilit shard]

I use 5 thermal banks

[jovial breach]

finally thank god

[fringe oasis]

I can just.... do the funni and make 50k power for no reason

But yeah lemme yeet some banks

There we go

Save some for the zipline towers I might build

[twilit shard]

bruh

I found my problem

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrow more than 80m long pipe outside aic with no logistic unit

[nova osprey]

lots of people have 80k HC batteries

[fringe oasis]

One of these days, when I can get out of not having 700 originium usage...

[twilit shard]

can we turn V4 bills into Wuling bills pls thx

[nova osprey]

damm, let me guess, you connected two max length pipes without actually connecting them

[jovial breach]

it's a bit trickier than doing it in aic

[rocky niche]

do you purify that before returning to water pond?

[jovial breach]

in aic you just place 2 pipe sections of opposite flow next to eachother and then reverse one

but outside aic you need to do a lot of dark magic

[nova osprey]

the real question is though, does this count as 1 or 2 pipes by the game's code

[twilit shard]

I had to use pipe splitters because the game said my pipe was too long

[jovial breach]

im just getting it ready for test area update

[twilit shard]

I HATE pipes because of this

also pipes will go into the ground then you have to do more dark magic

it's so stupid

[jovial breach]

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[fringe oasis]

Yep this is abysmal. I'll just make 1 SC battery and the rest HC

[twilit shard]

you can't do that in AIC factory

[nova osprey]

xD

[twilit shard]

make 2 HC Valley Battery producers at 100% efficiency

you don't need SC batteries

it makes more money anyways

[nova osprey]

why not just make triple hc at full capacity

it's the best thing out there

well close to best

[fringe oasis]

I just use the SC batteries for power generation, HC batteries for the stock trade with nothing going to power generation

[nova osprey]

HC is better for power and for trading

[jovial breach]

lol

[twilit shard]

HC is way better for trading

[rocky niche]

test area? what's on test area that needs those sewage pipes?

[nova osprey]

purification nodes that can't be moved

[twilit shard]

I am losing brain cells help me

[jovial breach]

purification center

[fringe oasis]

Yeah I meant the HC is only a money machine. 1 HC to power is 1 HC battery wasted for the stocks

[nova osprey]

ive already tried

[nova osprey]

HC is a power machine too x.x

[rocky niche]

what is the current battery you could produce for now?

[twilit shard]

I have LC batteries and so many buck A that I’ll be fine

[fringe oasis]

8 of 12 fed to the thermal bank void when all 12 can go to stocks... is that what I'm reading?

[nova osprey]

for theirs yeah, mine is different

[fringe oasis]

🙃

[twilit shard]

Let me break it down even more

[nova osprey]

mine's like use 6 and 12 goes to trading

[twilit shard]

Each battery is 40 secs

It takes 10 secs to make a battery

[rocky niche]

lc valbat is the lowest power

[twilit shard]

It is, that’s why I sell them

[rocky niche]

it is lowest cost among 3 batt

[twilit shard]

Not for power use, plus nothing else to use amethyst for

[rocky niche]

canned citrome c?

[keen river]

just make one of c healing items and amyetyst bottles

and sell them to outposts

[twilit shard]

I could do more of that

[merry wagon]

done

[uneven aspen]

6 and half hours to buy out the shop for me

[nova osprey]

@fringe oasis

[nova osprey]

im buying it out in 12 days

[rocky niche]

how many days it took

[merry wagon]

not sure, when exactly did the event start

[rocky niche]

april 28

you only took 2-3 days?

[merry wagon]

yep checks out

[nova osprey]

12/min

[merry wagon]

^

[nova osprey]

now go for 800k certs

[fringe oasis]

Aight blank slate, let's try this again

[merry wagon]

cut my battery production in half for this

[uneven aspen]

if you had 12-13/m xiranite gourd it takes 2.8-3.2 days iirc

[fringe oasis]

I need to make 5 buck capsules (steel and ground up buckflower is made off-site in the subPACs), and the rest HC battery

Wait I can compress it even more by splitting the subPAC production between HC battery parts and buck capsule

[merry wagon]

aight cleared my outpost, ready for the next part of the event

[nova osprey]

5 buck A?

[fringe oasis]

Part of the steel surplus produced for the steel bottle of the buck capsule, can go into the steel parts for the HC battery

[uneven aspen]

is this endgame valley4 AIC?

[fringe oasis]

Ye

I maxed out my V4, I have nothing else to do in it

[nova osprey]

so 30/min buck a?

[uneven aspen]

you want 18/m buck/citrome A and 18/m HC valley

3 production line of each

[fringe oasis]

I have so much of nothing to do in valley 4, my core AIC became a powerline manufacturer

[twilit shard]

Each product takes 10 seconds

[nova osprey]

tons of people had their v4 maxed out for a while, i have nothing to buy that i really need, and i have 100 mil v4 stock bills in elastic goods atm

[twilit shard]

Essentially

[nova osprey]

all of the limited stock is bought out too

[rocky niche]

valley-4 raw materials (max yield):

originium ore = 560/min = 18.67 lines (used 540/min, unused 20/min)
amethyst ore = 240/min = 8 lines
ferrium ore = 1080/min = 36 lines
suggested materials to craft:
- 3 buck capsule A = 18/min (1 Buck Capsule A = 8 ferrium lines)
- 3 hc valley battery = 18/min (1 HC Valley Battery = 6 originium lines, 4 ferrium lines)
- 2 canned citrome C = 24/min (1 Canned Citrome C = 4 amethyst lines)
@fringe oasis

[nova osprey]

how much hxira you got stocked up

[merry wagon]

21k rn

[uneven aspen]

missing

[nova osprey]

close, 18.67 is 560 used

[merry wagon]

but I'm resuming production

[fringe oasis]

I'm not crafting citrome, so I can free up even more unloaders

[nova osprey]

not gonna go for badge asap?

[fringe oasis]

I can use the freed up unloader space to produce dense orig. to metastorage transfer to Wuling

[twilit shard]

You can make a 50% efficiency production line

[nova osprey]

you do realize that metastorage transfer doesn't use any of your v4 resources right?

[twilit shard]

Unfortunately takes more space

[fringe oasis]

Wait a minute what

[nova osprey]

you're gonna have to manually transfer your v4 stock over, anything meta transferred just appears out of thin air

[fringe oasis]

TIL since I only unlocked Wuling a few days ago lol

Darn

[rocky niche]

doesnt need stuff from v4 to supply wuling if you use metastorage transfer

[uneven aspen]

actually don't worry about v4 that muhc and do wuling

[rocky niche]

you need RDL 12 in valley4 to unlock metastorage transder

[uneven aspen]

even minmaxed valley4 you buyout everythign in like 3 weeks

then cruise

[fringe oasis]

So it's just... using hidden AIC production in some other place in Talos II to make parts for metastorage

[rocky niche]

speedrun wuling because event now is in wuling

[twilit shard]

speaking of V4

[nova osprey]

basically

[merry wagon]

na, since it still takes the next part to trim it anyways

[uneven aspen]

.elasticgoods

[merry wagon]

[nova osprey]

it's not 5k

[cinder sun]

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[nova osprey]

.cook

[cinder sun]

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[uneven aspen]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

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[nova osprey]

.datamine

[cinder sun]

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[rocky niche]

metastorage is just photocopying the items before they send to wuling /j

[nova osprey]

oh that's so useful

[uneven aspen]

yeah sell at 5.4k

the pickaxes

[tall tangle]

ugh. it's kinda slow without blasting heavyX and/or batteries

[twilit shard]

how often do peaks hit?

[nova osprey]

like once a week if via friends

[uneven aspen]

starting at weekly reset it's lowest

then goes higher

until reset

[nova osprey]

you got 100 friend slots

[uneven aspen]

you wanna try to sell during the weekends basically

[rocky niche]

other players say that price peaks normally during Sunday

[nova osprey]

well it goes up and down

but resets to a base weekly

[nova osprey]

i'd say thursday to sunday are the best days to check yeah

[twilit shard]

[nova osprey]

it doesn't look like you sell via friends though

which makes things different

[twilit shard]

I have like 2 friends on my list

I just don't trust people

[uneven aspen]

just add people randomly . . .

[nova osprey]

i just add random people too lol

there's no way for them to mess up your gameplay after all

[twilit shard]

I'd rather add people I know

[uneven aspen]

my friendslist is ship of theseus i delete anyone inactive for 2 days or longer

then add more people

[nova osprey]

lmao same

but i havent done that recently

[twilit shard]

or at least people who I've spoken to

[rocky niche]

i wanna ask. so i copied kyostinv bp for 1.2 because i know i'm slow in designing factory and event lasts for short time but products need time to produce, so i just decided to copy his bp
and one thing i noticed is that he has 8/min gourd production.
from what i know, you could only create 6/min normally
how do you do 8/min?

[nova osprey]

8/min is with the hxira line cut out

[uneven aspen]

you can always make room for them but there's no harm for having more people

[nova osprey]

4 forges running xira, with each xira line giving 2/min gourds

[uneven aspen]

you want to visit peopel doing clue exchanges to get like 500 credits daily

[nova osprey]

technically speaking kyo's design could hit 9.6 gourds/min but im guessing it doesn't recycle effluent

[uneven aspen]

not everyone is doing clue exchange daily . . . so you will want more people added to friendslist

[twilit shard]

I see

[nova osprey]

most people typically dont recycle it though, it's a bit of a hassle to get set up

[fringe oasis]

Ah, I know how to maximize space usage. Starting from the highest level unit, to the depot unloader

rather than other way around

[uneven aspen]

if you bother with the credit shop you can buy the gacha currency 2-3 times a day on average

[twilit shard]

Got it

[uneven aspen]

in a month that's around 7-8 pulls iirc

[nova osprey]

i do that yeah

weapon pulls are more efficienct on credit shop

but gacha currency is gacha currency

[rocky niche]

1 gourd line needs 3 lines of xira tho?

[nova osprey]

for max efficiency yeah

you can always reduce the number of lines for lower efficiency gourds, but still have extra gourds per min

[rocky niche]

then how many gourd lines is 8/min?

2 gourd lines, with 2 xira line each?

[twilit shard]

2 gourds at 75% is better than a single 100% line

well you get 66% efficiency for two

[uneven aspen]

yup how i split 12.8/min gourds in 3 production lines

[twilit shard]

still about 33% better

[cunning obsidian]

is the gourd target 8/m stable?

[rocky niche]

i dont understand the looping belts

[nova osprey]

two gourd lines

one gourd full capacity

the other one has xiranite split 3 ways, two goes into bottle, one goes into fitting unit

[merry wagon]

btw, even after you cleaned up the event shop, you can still run a 1/3 speed gourd line with that extra 30/min xiranite

more moneyyyy

[uneven aspen]

so depot unloader unloads at 30/minute.

you split and send some back as "traffic" so new items from the unloader don't come out

[nova osprey]

more money would be to only use excess xiranite for gourds

and not bother with buying out shop in phase 1 until phase 2 starts

[uneven aspen]

the belting techinique is rate limit, you control/adjust the rate of items entering

[rocky niche]

i dont understand the belting technique

[merry wagon]

the wulingers need their gourds

[merry wagon]

tbh I have no idea how that works too

I use old fashioned technique of splitting up single inputs

[rocky niche]

how do i calculate those things? like there are splitter, converger all mixed together in loop belts @uneven aspen

[shadow void]

Hmmm

[keen river]

out of bounds pipe shenanigans

[shadow void]

Unintentional, but i'll take it

[fringe oasis]

o h

[nova osprey]

this is 8/min

just put it up, not very space efficient but it works

[uneven aspen]

the 15/m one is unoptimal btw

want this instead

[nova osprey]

what does 0/min look like

[uneven aspen]

The idea is a normal 100% belt from unloader is 30 items/minute.

If you split into 2 or 3 lanes, those 2-3 lanes will have 10 or 15 items/minute moving through them.

Converger adds the rates of the belts together. But the maximum is still 30 items/minute

Like i said the concept here is to split, then back to converger to cause a traffic jam

this limits the amount of newitems coming out of the depot unloader

[glad needle]

q : this setup only produce 4.25 hetonite/min right?

[keen river]

[nova osprey]

[lusty violet]

can i get a bp code for those

[shadow void]

I'd put a patch of grass, but 0/m assumes theres a belt

[keen river]

thats not wrong, it should have belt input and output

there i fixed it

[rocky niche]

can you explain how does this thing work

[nova osprey]

that looks more like 0.75/min

[glad needle]

so with 2 crucible+1 puri it would be 1.5 ye?

[rocky niche]

oh hey, you actually give video breakdown here. didnt see the ping

[nova osprey]

yeah

[uneven aspen]

nope I didn't make that one i copied it from this which was shared on reddit

[nova osprey]

[uneven aspen]

the video i did make and here's an explanation

[glad needle]

so if i use max of amount cuprium would be 4.5?

[nova osprey]

sorry wait im dumb

[nova osprey]

this is 3.75

[glad needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779196945448304640/1364708570355990538/togif.gif

ohh

[nova osprey]

max is 22.5

i was thinking hetonite parts not raw heto

[uneven aspen]

splitters splits the rate by 2 or 3.

convergers add up the rates of the lanes together but max is 30/m

[glad needle]

so with 2 crucible it will be 4.5?

[jovial breach]

Achieving multiple of 5 fractions is so cursed

[nova osprey]

7.5

[jovial breach]

Like 6/min

[glad needle]

okay

[jovial breach]

You have to use lim function

[nova osprey]

the things we do for endfield

[fringe oasis]

[jovial breach]

It approaches 6/min but not 6, 5.9999/min

[lusty violet]

not necessarily, ex.

[nova osprey]

what

wait huh

ah i see o.o

[lusty violet]

from satisfactory

[nova osprey]

do i

naruhodont

[keen river]

basically you merge the excess resource after the first splitter everywhere

it works

[jovial breach]

But that starts with 5

Wait

[lusty violet]

multiply everything by 6

[jovial breach]

I see

[lusty violet]

if u want endfdield belt rate

[agile marlin]

opinions on which layout is better? i'm kinda leaning towards the left, because it has the slight empty space in the corner. they're both 20x19, which is the tightest i've been able to figure out for setting this up as a self-contained / self-sufficient carbon line...

[jovial breach]

Damn

I thought 1/5 was impossible

[lusty violet]

all prime number balancers are possible

[keen river]

left looks better imho

although you could squish it more

[marble yarrow]

carbon 💀

[nova osprey]

the layout with wuling plants is better

which just doesn't exist here

[agile marlin]

this is a Valley IV line, so those aren't usable

[keen river]

if you are doing this for wuling then wuling plants are better

[brazen vortex]

YEAH! It's for Valley IV!

[keen river]

valley iv dosnt need carbon for anything does it?

[nova osprey]

why do you need those carbons for v4

[marble yarrow]

[agile marlin]

i have Valley IV setup for all resource production, just fiddling on things to make them tighter for fun

[nova osprey]

[tall tangle]

3.75, no?

[glad needle]

ye someone already answer that

[marble yarrow]

i did 80k all carbon, carbon powder, and stab carbon by randomly placing them and forgetting them

[keen river]

you could also do this, but is bit less symetric

so your mmv

[agile marlin]

interesting... lemme fiddle

[leaden siren]

can someone share a complete Qingbo Stockade map please

[marble yarrow]

smh not 80k buck citrome b and c

(i 80k them first lmao)

now lets transport yazhen and jincao in v4

[nova osprey]

bet

im gonna make v4 my storage site

everything will be 80k

[marble yarrow]

my only non 80k there are the buck and citrome powder mixed with sandleaf

maybe i should continue it

[uneven aspen]

tried to figure out the flow by hand

15+9 = 24 which limits it to 6/m

[jovial breach]

It's been months since i touched valley outposts

[uneven aspen]

but yeah it's approaches to 6

i believe they said it's based off prime splitters from satiasfactory

[jovial breach]

Lmao yeah

1/5 split

Is cursed af

[marble yarrow]

i find the converger facing sideway not behaving as perfect as a straight converger

in self clogging

[uneven aspen]

They placed the extra converger to teh top left for that reason

afaik to fix priority to make it work

[marble yarrow]

i have seen a simplified version of that

and works great ingame

no bridges

[agile marlin]

i swear this could get smaller somehow

[jovial breach]

No bridges?

[uneven aspen]

now im curious to try to get it working without bridges . . . but no aic space for now 😔

probably will try it whenver i swap to phase 2 production

[keen river]

if you do bridge trick here you should be able to move whole grinder and everything one thing lower

[uneven aspen]

wait why not using wuling plant for the carbons?

[agile marlin]

bridge trick? also, could shift the upper section over by 1 to open a little more in the corner

[keen river]

he wants to build it in valley4

this will free the corner that prevents you from moving the grinder down

although you also need to move the power pole somewhere

[uneven aspen]

oh yeah forgot to mention

i've used the 4/min and 6/min setup and they produce fine.

so perfect or not they are stable even offline

[rocky niche]

where does those numbers come from? like if raw material is 6/min output, is the finish product same 6/min?

[nova osprey]

i mean what's a small decimal point really gonna do in the grand scheme of things, at worse you're losing like 1 item every 10000 items produced lol, smth like that

[fringe oasis]

The HC battery production became a PC motherboard lol

[uneven aspen]

this is funny . . ,

gourd is only 3 lines what competition is this

[nova osprey]

30/min split in:
2 gives 15/min
3 gives 10/min

then you take those and you split again, etc

converging doesn't matter bc it will prioritize anything that's not the depot unloader in this case

etc

[agile marlin]

took a little extra adjustment, but down to 20x18. based

[nova osprey]

it's for the casuals who don't have Brian's

[rocky niche]

we only have ordinary gourd

maybe jade gourd is advanced form

[rocky niche]

no, i mean the finish product as in the gourd at the end of factory line

[nova osprey]

we already know how jade gourd is made

[jovial breach]

In today's episode of How it's made

[rocky niche]

there's already blueprint?

[jovial breach]

Jade gourd

[nova osprey]

it was datamined so yeah we have bps for it already

[rocky niche]

where do people see datamined stuffs

[nova osprey]

idk the source

but don't try to datamine unless you wanna get beaned

[agile marlin]

in non-public places because HG is cracking down on such things. there's already a bunch of people that have been clapped with massive monetary fines. also you shouldn't anyways, it ruins the fun of discovering new things as they happen

[nova osprey]

[uneven aspen]

that's for leaking future content

i don't think HG has ever punished datamining in-game files from an update

[jovial breach]

.datamine

[cinder sun]

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[nova osprey]

i mean it's impossible to crack down on it unless you're very stupid about it xD

for leaks it's much easier to crack down by trickling information in ways that splits details

elon musk did it once before, by sending emails where a period was in a different spot in an email

the person reading the email would copy the email and send it out as a leak, identifying themselves in the process

the fake leaks might not actually even be fake leaks, but fake data spread to people who don't know it's faked

i.e: swapping dates slightly depending on who views data etc

datamined content is just people accessing what's already there for everyone soo

yeah

[keen river]

discussing datamined content is not disallowed here btw

if they dont want some minor event stuff to leak they dont need to put the stuff in game really

[nova osprey]

yeap

[fringe oasis]

This poor originium belt that had to travel the long way because everything was too stacked 🙃

[keen river]

you probably could try to put that right grinder in the unused space by rotating it 90 degrees

maybe it would allow easier belting

but well, as long as it works

[fringe oasis]

lemme see

[keen river]

actually even if you dont rotate it

it might still be bettter

[nova osprey]

also that's a ton of bridges, might hit facility limit

[fringe oasis]

It actually did free up space

Waity HAHAHAHAHAH

I WAS WONDERING WHY IT WASN'T OUTPUTING

[agile marlin]

another 20x18, even more empty space in the upper right corner but also now some extra in the lower left. sacrifices the sandleaf powder storage though

can stack them moderately tight, although you'd probably get better results with a dedicated 2-line build

[rare moon]

honestly should refrain from bridges if possible just to keep facility count low unless this is for the outposts

[agile marlin]

20x17, vertically stackable (remove the upper pylon) with each sub-group being 20x16 instead

[subtle finch]

is this some kind of joke?

[agile marlin]

miniaturization of builds is part of factory sim

especially when you have space constraints like in this game

[subtle finch]

you are using sandleaf planter-seeders for 1/3 of the sandleaf powder

[timber phoenix]

sandleaf into shredder is 3x

[agile marlin]

well aware, but adding a second stash kills the size

[subtle finch]

then you're not connecting stabilized carbon directly to a forge, where it is the only unit effectively using it

[uneven aspen]

trying to do 6/min rate without bridge.

took 4 minutes 55 seconds to get 30 items. It should've taken 5 minutes. . . how to fix

[agile marlin]

notice how i'm not using Wuling plants

[subtle finch]

you need to draw the line somewhere when it comes to modularity, and compactness, this isnt it chief

nothing changes if its for wuling or v4, this isnt a good use of power nor space

[agile marlin]

then show a build that has a smaller footprint while being completely self-contained and self-sufficient, which is the purpose of this design

[fringe oasis]

I really really can't get below 700 at some point. It's just coming back and I'm gonna be at 0 Orig once again

After I've saved this much

Gone it goes

[fervent lodge]

wait is that sandleaf right buckflower left

or am i misunderstanding

[agile marlin]

sandleaf both

[fervent lodge]

both????????

[agile marlin]

can use buckleaf for the left, doesn't matter ultimately

i just default to sandleaf

[fervent lodge]

isn't it slightly unoptimal using only 1/3 of the capacity of that entire 3-planter stack

[fringe oasis]

Wait

Instead of modular AICs

Build hyper specialized AICs for one SPECIFIC set of manufacturing parameters

[fervent lodge]

no, modularity has its place

[fringe oasis]

Then nuclear optimize it

Throw a proton bomb in it afterwards

[fervent lodge]

modular xiranite for example is very good

[agile marlin]

...? the only thing that isn't perfectly balanced in that build is the sandleaf powder coming out of the shredder, but there's no way around that without increasing the size of the build's footprint with a second stash to pick up the extra 2 lines of powder

[fervent lodge]

how about using 1 sandleaf producer and splitting it into 3..?

[fringe oasis]

Make that one specific production line so optimized that just moving one conveyor piece breaks the ENTIRE line

[agile marlin]

that completely neuters output

[fervent lodge]

why

1 sandleaf gives 3 dust

[fringe oasis]

Thats the right way to plan AICs

[fervent lodge]

therefore 0.333333 sandleaf gives 1 dust

and you're using 1 dust

[agile marlin]

because stabilized carbon output fully utilizes a single sandleaf planter input for the one side, meaning you need a second planter for the powder part

[fervent lodge]

yes, but you don't need it for every single shredder

you just do one on the right side and feed it to three shredders

saving you 6 5x5 buildings of footprint

[agile marlin]

three shredders.... what

[fervent lodge]

see you have 2

[agile marlin]

there's only two shredders in a carbon line

[fervent lodge]

stack once more and you have 3

[fervent lodge]

not carbon, sandleaf powder side

[fringe oasis]

I have a nuked buckflower production line. All secondary parts in the subPAC.

It's barebones and almost last step

[agile marlin]

oh, you're coming at this from a stacking the entire build perspective. miscommunication happened, i was interpreting it from a single build perspective

[fervent lodge]

yeah but why make tileable builds if they can't tile efficiently

and waste production + power

[fringe oasis]

Wait the ratio is wrong, lemme fix that

[agile marlin]

i mean ultimately if you're going to want multiple carbon lines you want to build specifically for that. the stackability was more of a "hey, neat bonus"

[green sleet]

How much xircon are we gonna need? Im making 60 ppm rn and wanna delegate more space if it isnt enough

[last magnet]

Hello Lads, does some Nice Fella help a Newer Player out by giving him a bp for this item… please? 🥹✌️

[fringe oasis]

I have an off loaded split-line setup

[green sleet]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: [Buck-A]EFO0158O63756UuaUeIoe Copy it and use it in the game.

This ones a full line.

[fringe oasis]

One entire subPAC is dedicated to making the Buck Capsule secondary parts

So I could free up the core AIC

[last magnet]

Well Thanks alot guys

[last magnet]

I can use this code yeah? I never did it before

[green sleet]

I believe so. Its my first time trying to share a bp code

[rare moon]

Unless you're in a different server

[last magnet]

Whats the actual Code

Starting at EF?

[green sleet]

Yes

[last magnet]

Thank u son

Ill try

[rare moon]

if it doesnt work just say your server

[last magnet]

It don’t 😔

[green sleet]

Dang. Sorry, bb.

[last magnet]

Where can I see which Server im in. I never got to Chose it if I remember Right

[rare moon]

juat go to the title screen

should be at the bottom right

[last magnet]

Americas/Europe

[tepid wigeon]

That and you can also look at your friend code, 4X is Asia and 6X is EUNA

[dreamy jungle]

wtf did i just see

[last magnet]

Some bp?

I guess

Couldnt Look at it

[green sleet]

The code shouldve worked then cuz we're in the same server

[rare moon]

resend the code but just the code

[fringe oasis]

Ever since I learned Sandleaf shredding output 3 leaf powders, I always add 2 more grinding units if I ever use or need only 1

[green sleet]

EFO0158O63756UuaUeIoe

[last magnet]

Ill try again gimme a min

[fringe oasis]

I'm over producing on some things but that's fine, the depot void needs to eat

[last magnet]

I got Home from vocational school or whatever u wanna Call it. My Brain is Fried 😭

[rare moon]

You're going to shared tab then import blueprint right i didnt even know where it was

[last magnet]

Yes

[rare moon]

yea code works fine for me

[last magnet]

Bro am i tweaking

Ts cant be wrong right

[trail mirage]

MOREE

[green sleet]

Youre typing it in right. Im at a loss

[dreamy jungle]

maybe a space at the end?

[fringe oasis]

What website is this?

[rare moon]

Whats the first 3 numbers of your id

[last magnet]

Dm me rq

[subtle finch]

enkad, it's in the pins

[thorn mason]

guys do you think its good?

[fringe oasis]

oh

[rare moon]

Is PlayStation blueprints different or can they use PC blueprints

[subtle finch]

it's compatible cross-platform but not cross-region/server

[rare moon]

I think they put l instead of I

[green sleet]

Get to a steady 180 yield if you can. Or 120 if youre making heavy

[thorn mason]

i have no idea how to get better yield, i used all, i dont like using blueprints from someone
i did this max times-1 because i put it that one in a stupid place

[last magnet]

@green sleet thanks Bro

[hidden temple]

can you check your sandleaf and yazhen yield/usage in aic report

[green sleet]

No worries, bb

[green sleet]

How many forges are you running for Xiranite?

[thorn mason]

OH i just realized i was using 2 for heavy but turned it off for the event

[hidden temple]

your theoretical yield is 180 (6 forges) but actual is 105, there's some heavy inefficiency

either plant loops don't have enough seed/plants for a full loop, or not enough water in wuling planters/forge

[agile marlin]

you can't produce carbon powder from sandleaf dust. interesting concept with the plant line on the right though, taking advantage of the lack of need for balance to completely remove the second planter in the 2x planter 1x seed loop. never crossed my mind, but now that it has...
EDIT: looking at that again, you just mixed up the shredder and refinery on the left, should work fine if placed correctly
EDIT 2: on another look, i think you could shrink that design even further

[green sleet]

Make sure each forge is fed by its own farms and youll be groovy.

[tacit quarry]

do you produce exceed gourd or stop producing it after event point max out?

[marble yarrow]

better stop producing more gourd than phase 1 rewards and go back stashing up heavy xiranite (if you removed it)

[rare moon]

I just need 3k gourds left

[agile marlin]

not listed ingame

[rare moon]

Then i can go heavy stock up

[tepid wigeon]

Some formula don't show until you actually try it

[rare moon]

I accidentally made it so i have it

[agile marlin]

seems pointless to use though, extra belts for same throughput

[subtle finch]

no sane person would use it in the first place, i just entertained the idea cause i was bored

[agile marlin]

at any rate, condensed but uses the same 21x14... wonder if can be reduced further. probably not

[dreamy jungle]

😭

[agile marlin]

it's called having fun. you know, the purpose of a video game? pursuing miniaturization to see how small you can build a factory line is one of the many aspects of factory sim to derive fun from

[uneven aspen]

took a while but looks like the 6/min beltsetup works online

took a lap every 30 items. which should take 5 minutes.

now need to figure out a way to test offline.

[subtle finch]

[green sleet]

Well that looks neat. Why would you need to use something like that though?

[uneven aspen]

well before the AIC event I was using it to make 11/min ferrium syringe C

[subtle finch]

i was using the 6/min here, it seems to be slightly slower when offline

but its basically negligible

[uneven aspen]

and for this AIC event im using 4/min setup on my gourds

[green sleet]

Fascinating.

[uneven aspen]

tried to follow it by hand looks like it's just approaches 6/min

[subtle finch]

my 0.4/min lc cause i had 2/min of spare xiranite

[ruby sorrel]

tbh why does it have that gap between bridge and conv

1 tile is plenty by that point, if you confirm the round robin order you don't even need gaps most of the time

[subtle finch]

i just follow it, aint got time to learn why

[marble yarrow]

fr, the bridge doesnt affect anything for me

https://klipy.com/gifs/mr-bean-mrbean--k01KQG871P5YD57JQA57B6RMH5F

[fervent lodge]

i'm all for standalone compactness, but it has to a) scale (keep its value with more units of it placed) and b) serve a reusable purpose
once you start placing more of those consuming only 1/3 of its output, it increasingly starts to make more sense to separate sandleaf instead, or incorporate it into a 3-fold design to preserve ratios for efficiency
this game does not like standalone blocks in sandleaf recipes at all, it prefers doubling and tripling the output for efficiency
that's what prevents me from seeing fun in that design, as it's optimizing space away from optimizing efficiency

[ruby sorrel]

wait someone was pursuing miniaturization via spamming 1/3 sandleaf?

[fervent lodge]

kinda

[ruby sorrel]

do they understand what space savings are lmao

[marble yarrow]

(imma spam the most evil main aic)

[fervent lodge]

not the goal it seems

[ruby sorrel]

but how is it "miniaturization" if you ignore space

[dreamy jungle]

eyy now it looks nicer

[ruby sorrel]

btw my 4/5 has been working out great and I left no gaps

[marble yarrow]

💀

[ruby sorrel]

I wonder if it'd work as a 1/5 if I loop the other stuff

I had issues where the origin converger would slowdown for some reason for batteries even thouygh that makes no sense to me

[rare moon]

Whats the facility count

[cobalt hedge]

the trimming requirement for the gourd exchange is handing in about 800k gourds, right? how's everyone meeting that requirement? i'll only be able to make around 600k by the end of the event and i can't really optimise any futher

[iron stratus]

is this genius

[dreamy jungle]

i mean can you not just have that pipeline come from below

[marble yarrow]

trim = jade gourd

[cobalt hedge]

it's about 520-580? if i remember right because i hit it yesterday

[rare moon]

Its 512

[cobalt hedge]

yikes, close enough

[rare moon]

But i mean this

[marble yarrow]

imma try placing if how many splitters are free

[cobalt hedge]

what do you mean?

sorry, i've been spending hours on it and my brain is scrambled

watcha mean

[uneven aspen]

we selling xiranite gourds rn, jade gourds are phase 2

[rare moon]

Its not unlocked yet

[cobalt hedge]

oh shit i misread thanks, much appreciated

[rare moon]

But should be able to hit when you do sell that much

[cobalt hedge]

i thought i was losing it

i misread two things apparently lol

[agile marlin]

ultimately, if you care about the sandleaf powder efficiency, use one of the originals i posted a little earlier. they're 20x19 instead, which is only a small increase. gives you 60/m powder for use elsewhere in your AIC due to the second stash in them. alternatively, just build with full 90/m powder in mind, such as the following 32x25 build (currently on 3rd draft, could probably reduce further) for 90/m carbon

[marble yarrow]

seems like i can only place these 4 splitters lmaoo