aic-factory

[storm garnet]

belts work like that, something similar might happen with the pipes

[keen river]

nah, i think 🤔

it might be due to crucible being powered down?

[rare moon]

funny things

[keen river]

hmm

[gentle sentinel]

Okay, how did we jump to crucible?

[keen river]

or maybe not, now i cant reproduce it properly

wtf

[storm garnet]

sometimes it could just be an abnormal bug

making a bp, deleting and rebuilding might fix it

[keen river]

might be

[tired burrow]

Can you already start producing Xiranite Jade Gourds?

[rugged gulch]

5d10h till phase 2 and jade gourds.

[pulsar willow]

In 5 days

[keen river]

oddly enough

once i have fixed that part, other old assemmbly has failed

wf

[rare moon]

Could preprep heavy xiranite after you're done with part 1

[keen river]

now somehow this crucible is no getting enough acid

even through top pipe is connected to two pumps

[rare moon]

Too much split

They're not equal

[rugged gulch]

Should be preping heavy and hetonite now. cause you can still buy phase 1 stuff during phase 2.

[pulsar willow]

Not if you buy everything from phase 1 during phase 1

[rare moon]

Oh thats a converger

[rare moon]

The second crucible needs to fill up before the first one can start using

[rugged gulch]

sure, but bit of a waste. Better to stock up and make jade. Sure make what gourds you can now, but don't hurt heavy production to do it.

[keen river]

this appears to work

its filled up, no problem there

this thing was working for past week or two

just today broke when i started to tweak the sewage earlier

somehow :

i think they might have some sort of memory corruption or a bug in their sim

see

[gentle sentinel]

Feed us full factory

[silent canyon]

How are y'all splitting your cuprium right now?
Is it all going to Hetonite? Medicine?

[candid radish]

gonna be real, i never encountered any such bugs and i kind of suspect skill issue in those who regularly do

[gentle sentinel]

Power wise go med

[silent canyon]

I think since I wanna save a stockpile of heavy Xiranite I'm pausing production of hetonite and going med

[candid radish]

but phase 2 needs hetonite too

[rugged gulch]

still need hetonite for jade gourds.

[silent canyon]

I got 2 Xiranite going towards xircon, 1 going towards heavy Xiranite, and 3 for gourds

[rare moon]

When you have 2 acid going in 2 acid is going out so the last crucible uses 1. It will then fill up so it forces 1 to go out instead of 2 when its filled. So then the first crucible can start using it

[silent canyon]

Ah jade gourds need hetonite too? Raw or the parts?

[keen river]

nothing really special here tbh

[candid radish]

raw

[silent canyon]

Cause I have a lot of hetonite parts but no raw

Damn

[keen river]

ye i know, the right crucible was full and working all along

[candid radish]

this works fine

[gentle sentinel]

Possibly water needs time to fill

[candid radish]

i wouldnt send an end product through reactors

[keen river]

no reason not to tbh

no idea

its functionally equivalent to what i had earlier

and it works somehow

just one less splitter on the incoming pipe

no clue why earlier one failed

[gentle sentinel]

From this part, it's the water

[candid radish]

also seems sus to route the outgoing oil back into the input

[keen river]

this works by design

[candid radish]

i have one oil pump feeding two reactors to capacity, so i dont understand how you would be able to spend the outgoing oil like that without clogging, but sure

it does seem to be a pipe with little content visually

[gentle sentinel]

Yea, just need some time

[candid radish]

so it seems to work

just not sure how

[keen river]

the merger is supposed to be fair

crucibles use 2 acid and output 1, so you should be always eating one acid from boths ides of merger

[candid radish]

right, if convergers take turns like that then sure

[keen river]

this works for sure, my whole wuling base is based around this

water loops back to iself etc

otherwise you need to dump it back to river

it mus have been some weird interaction between all the splitters/mergers nearby honestly 😐

there are some weird bugs with them so maybe its one of those cases

where they try to act like priority based on build order etc

[rugged gulch]

since acid/water is unlimited i just dump them. No worry about weird interactions backing stuff up.

[ruby sorrel]

wow my pipes are in stripy phase again, I need to stop testing in prod I keep randomly bricking my SC output cus I don't have xircon buffer

[fickle granite]

So I've been thinking about going back and purifying my inert xircon but i don't know what to use the extra fluid on. Like I could save a line of xiranite but idk why I would bother. It seems like there's nothing to really do with it. I could make more gourds for the event I guess?

[ruby sorrel]

you don't save a whole line of xiranite unless you have a use for the eff anyways

[fickle granite]

ya i was thinking about this all wrong. nvm i would just have to use the eff straight up for something.

[ruby sorrel]

well that's not exactly right, because either way you only save 1/5 of the original xiranite cost

it's just when you run 1heavy+2SC you need 5 lines and save 1 line

so there's no fractions

[fickle granite]

okay so you infuse the purified eff into the forge for heavy xira i guess?

my heavy and sc battery are in different areas

[ruby sorrel]

I just mean that's one option where the 1/5 savings look like it saves 1 line cleanly because 1/5 of 5 is 1

[tall tangle]

hopefully close enough

[ruby sorrel]

currently I'm not running any hxira so I'm just backfeeding it into xircon

[fickle granite]

i did that but then i realize everything was already running at full flow so it just clogged up the line

[ruby sorrel]

yeah there's weird quirks that somehow let it work by just clogging instead of micromanaging ratios

[subtle finch]

[ruby sorrel]

I still don't understand the water prio

adding convergers to the input breaks prio

merging via converger breaks prio cus it's real roundrobin

I think you were right about lower flow rate being prio somehow

cus when I had to refill one of the other crucibles with water it reversed prio

still can't explain the inert output+water merge on bottom right

maybe it'd break if the converger was facing bottom towards crucible

it seems as long as I don't brick the whole system by clogging purification with inert the whole thing will restabilise by itself though

[fickle granite]

wth is this? how is that even possible.

[ruby sorrel]

it's a mystery, so bottom is the water main after 1/2 split so it's nominally 1/s, but the waterpipe is overall clogged so it can be assumed it wants to output more than 1/s, then it splits half into bottom left crucible and up into a converger with inert output, bridge, splitter, converge back to input into crucible

presumably the side inputs of a converger have higher prio cus the inert is never clogged and everything makes it into the top left crucible as expected

[fickle granite]

incredible

[ruby sorrel]

technically I don't think I need 2 pipes out of the splitter, but it looks nice

since a combined flow of 1/s should be able to take turns in 2m of pipe without backing up

I think 4m was giving me trouble though

[tall tangle]

yeah. i thought it would be possible to make cute caleidoscope with pipes and splitters, but too much work demotivates

[rare moon]

things to do when you have 0 facility space

crazy pipes logistics dont count as facility but belt logistics do

[ruby sorrel]

everything should be separated tbh

also for some reason the bottom right crucible prioritises taking xiranite from the right input, is that just a thing?

[keen river]

There are some weird bugs

[frozen thicket]

💔

[keen river]

If you scroll a bit i had a bug where sewage wouldnt pass through 2 splitters at full rate somehow

Fixed it by rebuilding but this caused other part of factory to fail

No clue

Maybe the resolution order is unpredictable / based on some hash and it fails in some weird way

[ruby sorrel]

actually what's the output rate on fluid tanks?

[reef horizon]

does anybody have a ~5.82k battery system

[keen river]

Same as pipe, 2/s

[gentle sentinel]

Why is there 2 xircon

[iron stratus]

1 wasnt enough

[keen river]

If you teether 2/s pipe though a tank it wont fill

[winged oriole]

yeah it's strange, I had to close and reopen it to get it to collapse them and send the floating one out

[tall tangle]

that likely happen in a pause in between xir reached 0 and new one crafted. game likely wont clear recipe from building unless close/open or new stuff coming in

similar to that behaviour

[winged oriole]

Yeah probably something to do with sub cycle timing

I created more work for myself later when I need to tear these all down 1 by 1. But, I get to produce 4 more gourds a minute sometimes without interrupting battery production so surely it's all worth it right guys

[ruby sorrel]

the heck are those

how do you get extra liquid everywhere

[winged oriole]

it's all xircon effluent

[ruby sorrel]

but why?

[shadow void]

do you have bottles to put it in?

[winged oriole]

so I can shut off xiranite into two of the xircon reactors and use this instead for 14 hours a day

[ruby sorrel]

just backfeed it and don't use the extra xiranite in the first place

[shadow void]

Dang, 14 days huh

[iron stratus]

you dont need to use extra xiranite

unless you dont have much hxira stockpiled

[winged oriole]

Hmm maybe if I only run xircon in one of the reactors it'd work out

I didn't want to deal with sewage fractions

[ruby sorrel]

but running xircon in all reactors is how you get sewage fractions

[winged oriole]

no it's either no sewage consumption/production or 1 for 1

in the setup I had going

[split portal]

what do i do with excess cuprium when making xircon effluent?

[floral basin]

you can turn it into parts then into bottle, make a jincao/yahzen factory

today i realize i dont need liquid xiranite for effluent anymore i can just convert all the sewage into it

[alpine thunder]

i think you still need liquid xiranite

[floral basin]

oh wait i see the color wrong its inert xircon effluent its 2 different things and you are right u still need liquid xiranite

my xiranite will never be free from this lol

[rare moon]

bro is color blind

[peak sinew]

I love this stupid day 1 build

[river wadi]

pretty sure you need 2 carbon lines for 1 forge not 2 forges for 1 carbon line

[peak sinew]

dont worry it clogged

☝️ clogged mean good

always full

[river wadi]

are you getting 120 xiranite per min tho

[peak sinew]

no ideal

[reef horizon]

is there any reasoning to keep heavy xira going?, i stopped making LC batteries and halved my heavy xira, but if i wanna make 6/m gourds i have to half heavy xira completely

dont mind the battery consumption

[thorny galleon]

With the Expanded Crucible, can I make my Xircon Effluent all in one crucible? i.e., feed Water, Sewage, and Xircon into the same Expanded Crucible?

Phew, I remember borking my system before by trying to passthrough sewage through whatever was mixing water/xyranite

What are the new max yields in Wuling? Asking, since I dunno if I want to spend a couple hours now to rework my factories, or if I should slap something together

..Oh, and there's the event. I guess I should divert some xyranite to that?

[upper fiber]

none, mostly because sc bat has xircon eff as output, which you either waste or bottling them if you don't make heavy xira

[ancient charm]

Make a more efficient xircon line

[upper fiber]

example?

[reef horizon]

i bottled xircon, transferred it and unpackaged it and used it to make heavy xira 6/m and some LC batteries

[thin tinsel]

Anyone got codes for a self sustaining xiranite gourd factory?

[reef horizon]

but due to gourds being a thing, i expect it to be better to cut that in its entirety, cut heavy xira, cut LC and only make gourds

if im wrong let me know

[ruby sorrel]

depends if you plan on burning hxira stash next week

[upper fiber]

if you can handle the extra xircon eff, yeah just turn it off

[reef horizon]

i mean i can just change the inlets to treatment units no?

whats there to handle

[ruby sorrel]

just use it

[upper fiber]

yeah, either waste or bottling them

[hoary crag]

lol

[upper fiber]

imagine purify inert then water treatment the xircon eff, i can't

[hoary crag]

for me I put my h-xir production down to 3/min

[ruby sorrel]

technically it's still less power but yeah that's just funny

[reef horizon]

use it for what?

if i use it for 3/m heavy xira then i bottle my gourds to 3/m instead of 6/m

[ruby sorrel]

if you're making inert it means you're making eff, so you clearly have a use for eff

so just use it and save xiranite

[hoary crag]

if you're going for 3/min heavy, you could still maintain a 4/min gourd

assuming you're only using xiranite for sc batteries, heavy xir, and gourds

[ruby sorrel]

instead of whatever trashing/bottling business

[reef horizon]

i was using xira for LC/Hxir/SC/gourds and was limited to 3/m but i suppose i can cut the LC

[hoary crag]

yeah I cut my LC prod for this

did they ever tell us what LC/SC/HC means?

I just have this headcanon that it just means low/standard/high capacity

[reef horizon]

so basically you're saying to just keep using this but lower gourds to 4/m

[hoary crag]

yup, lowering gourds to 4/min removes 30/min xiranite

you'd have to evenly distribute the two unloaders

also slow down hetonite part production

the jade gourds also need raw hetonite

[ruby sorrel]

if you just toss the eff from purification that's throwing out 16% of the eff you can produce per xiranite... funny numbers

[reef horizon]

wait what why?, jade gourds??

is there another part

[hoary crag]

week 2

[reef horizon]

oh i see

[hoary crag]

it's also what we need to sell for trimmed medal

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[reef horizon]

i never actually read the event i dont know the details

[hoary crag]

right when I was about to dip for work

😭

[wispy grove]

why yo only have 3/min heavy xira?

[reef horizon]

do you have a bp or a image of how to distribute xira for 4/m

[reef horizon]

gourds?

[hoary crag]

wait

[wispy grove]

with that much xira reserve u have, you shouldnt stop your heavy xira production

[reef horizon]

what else am i cutting then, surely we dont cut batteries

oh reserve

[wispy grove]

dont cut anything

[reef horizon]

i mean i jkust dont want it running out while im asleep

[wispy grove]

just divide your reserve to

(no. of xira reserve) /[(number of unloaders x1800)= no. of hrs left

[reef horizon]

Meh its fine

[wispy grove]

for example i have 23123 xira and im using 2 unloaders

23123/(2x1800) = 6.42 hrs left

[hoary crag]

@reef horizon

[reef horizon]

oh i keep forgetting how easy the ratios are lmao

[ruby sorrel]

remember proper balancing if using funny input ratios though

[wispy grove]

me using 2/min gourd

[hoary crag]

lmao

[wispy grove]

i dont have xira reserves

sadly

[hoary crag]

welp

[ruby sorrel]

deliberately not using reserves

[hoary crag]

tho that means your h-xira is at 6/min, right?

[wispy grove]

yup

i wont rix my heavy xira for xira gourd

[hoary crag]

very deliberately not using reserves

[wispy grove]

2/min will take me less that 12 days to clear the whole shop

and thats good enough for me

[ruby sorrel]

4 stashes 💀

[wispy grove]

im more focused on min maxhing heavy xira mre

[hoary crag]

yes

protocol stash plushie when

I kinda want it to be smth like that claymore plushie

wait

[ruby sorrel]

tbf with event my power went up 1 threshold and now I'm so far from it I could use like 24 stashes or sth

[hoary crag]

imagine this but protocol stash

would buy

[left swallow]

I would like please. I just broke up with my gf. Friendly claymore

[valid gazelle]

man even if its event .. it just feels wrong to axe a production line for this..

my 12 batteries per min

[valid gazelle]

protocol stash dakimura

[thorny galleon]

So the Heavy Xyranite uses the Forge of the Sky, right?
What's the current optimum ratio of Forges for Xyranite vs Heavy Xyranite?

[upper fiber]

0 heavy

[valid gazelle]

without the event its 7 to 1

with the event its.. idk how to actually optimize it but im running 8 to 0

[thorny galleon]

Neat-o

For the event, I think I'll do 8 xiranites, with 6 going into gourds and the last 2 feeding into a battery setup

[valid gazelle]

ye im running it like that too

[thorny galleon]

Now then.. gotta figure out how to make my xiranite stuff a little compact. It's eating a little too much space with my blueprint being 15x32

[valid gazelle]

that's big ?

15x32 for a single line ?

[thorny galleon]

Yeah.. I have a lot of empty space

[valid gazelle]

ooooooh

[valid gazelle]

your design is pretty close to mine

the only difference is that i put the planters vertical, so they are longer, but i make another line end to end to make it a double line

squeeze it down to 13x60 (longer) but its double

[short plover]

i've placed the factories meant for 1.1 that produce 12 sc batteries/min, but i can't even reach 400 originium yield. What am I supposed to do with this? The only solution left is to disable 3-4 depot outlets, all ore deposits are mined and surely type of mining rig doesn't matter.

[valid gazelle]

if you are not reaching 480, then you arent manufactoring 12 sc batteries per minute

[thorny galleon]

You don't have enough originium ore rigs

Or your development level isn't high enough

[valid gazelle]

for explanation: each sc battery line requires 4 densed originium (which translate to 240 originium per minute)

so now you need higher development levels

or some of your rig is missing

[short plover]

it's level 10. unless i missed some fogged area in wuling, but it doesn't make sense

[valid gazelle]

that explains a lot

go

clear the fog

[thorny galleon]

Explore! Clear the fog!
SOme of the originium is in weird spots

[short plover]

am i dumb?

[valid gazelle]

yep

there it is

lol

me when Hulu cave is foggy

[short plover]

that explains everything

[valid gazelle]

[thorny galleon]

Right at the mouth of that cave

[topaz abyss]

we have an extra 30/m xira from saccing heavy xira and converting that forge to make xira, what the setup for the splitters to have the xira line split 2:1?

[thorny galleon]

Xiranite requires an obscene amount of space to make 😭

[valid gazelle]

wdymmmmmm

[thorny galleon]

I think I'll need to dedicate over half of my main AIC area to xiranite ;-;

[static isle]

I’m throttling gourd back to 2/min and starting heavy xira prod again

[thorny galleon]

What the heck
How many forges of the sky can we have? I thought it was currently 8

[valid gazelle]

y e s

[static isle]

8 yes
Max output 240/m

I put a 7x unit in Jingyu and forget about it

[valid gazelle]

you can see my 3 planters of the sky

[thorny galleon]

LMAO

[static isle]

Splitters split 3 by default so just plug 2 outputs to the mould and one to the fit

[thorny galleon]

You have a code for this setup? I think I'll just steal this

[valid gazelle]

uh..

i have the code for the double xyranite

i havent coded my SIRcon yet

[thorny galleon]

Double is good!

[topaz abyss]

TY

[valid gazelle]

ASIA ?

[thorny galleon]

oh noooo

[valid gazelle]

rip

you want a ... close up screenshot so you can build the same ?

[thorny galleon]

All good

[valid gazelle]

actually

i should be using ENKA

fml

here you go

[thorny galleon]

Alright, shortened it to 15x28 without the pipes. WIth pipes it's 16x29

[valid gazelle]

that conduit requires 2 pumps

along with the forbidden snek 🐍 technique

[thorny galleon]

What's the area of your design for 2 xiranites?

[valid gazelle]

13x60

its long

but its modular

[wispy grove]

[thorny galleon]

Your design.. still superior to my slightly adjusted one. Makes ense, considering I still have my large gaps

..Does your design not fit in one blueprint?

[valid gazelle]

nah there is no inferior or superior design. It's the one that fits and the one that doesnt

[valid gazelle]

nope it is longer than the limited 50

its 13x__60__

[thorny galleon]

Darn, so 50 is the limit

[valid gazelle]

but in my bps i made sure to have them fit like a jigsaw

so those who use it wont get it wrong

[thorny galleon]

Hm.. is yours symmetrical except for the protocol stash and conduit?

[valid gazelle]

yep but in a way they are symmetrical enough

tile-able too

[thorny galleon]

Cool, so I'll make one half, save it, and hope future me remember how the protocol stash is supposed to look like

[thorny galleon]

Time to get crafting! And heck yeah for tileable

[meager stream]

[ruby sorrel]

0 gourd

[cobalt hedge]

i'm dying

[meager stream]

haha im stocking xira first

[subtle grove]

Hey uh

[meager stream]

[subtle grove]

The infinite backup power update is for next patch right?

[ruby sorrel]

almost 8k power how

[meager stream]

cuz i put full ziplines & turrets too xD

[hard sail]

What is the infinite backup power

[ruby sorrel]

ew not battery power turrets

[meager stream]

oh using 3 scw & no HC valley batteries xD

[sonic summit]

oh ....

we can save the altruism fruits right?

[winged oriole]

I don't think there will be much point but who knows

[thorny galleon]

ooh, did not know conduits had their own internal storage of liquids

[cobalt hedge]

ooh, any chance i could possibly have the code? my xiranite is at 0

[shadow void]

I couldn't even break 6k if i tried

i'd have to intentionally place nothing but Expanded Crucibles to get to 9k

[valid gazelle]

Help yourself out

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1499220517557895229

[shadow void]

You're. . . not replacing normal Crucibles with Expanded are you?

[meager stream]

[shadow void]

nothing out of the ordinary

Whats your total zipline count?

[meager stream]

yep, all full limit except wulingcity 2 left. Hope i can connect em to next area 🥲

[sterile stratus]

you reached facility limit?

or zipline

[shadow void]

55 Ziplines for me, 275 pwr. max is only gonna be 575

[sterile stratus]

mine nearly double yours lol

[sonic summit]

hmm

[sterile stratus]

101 ziplines

[meager stream]

qingbo & marker both 20, jingyu 25, city 48 ziplines, also full turret usage xD

[sonic summit]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[shadow void]

900 pwr if you power 15 towers in 3 areas with pylons

[cobalt hedge]

much appreciated

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-phoebe-wuwa-phoebe-wuthering-waves-peak-gif-18088971692301989518

[shadow void]

900 power could be saved by just putting a stack of batteries in them

[viscid plover]

i checked out of curiosity i have 42 zipline in wuling

[sterile stratus]

i should probably optimize my zipline layout and stop placing them at "funny" places...

[meager stream]

7.95k/9.8k total power usage in region

[ruby sorrel]

dang I'm still in the 70s for ziplines I think

update didn't really add that many places

[viscid plover]

praaay been meaning to ask you again

[shadow void]

wait, are you purposely burning batteries

[viscid plover]

you seen the technology zipline?

[meager stream]

3 scw , dont worry cuz its 12/m producing :3

[viscid plover]

i still haven't seen one from yan ning yet since patch

[valid gazelle]

[ruby sorrel]

I had all 3 other than yan ning this reset

[viscid plover]

i really suspecting they removed yan ning at this point

[ruby sorrel]

so those for sure exist

[shadow void]

If you haven't place a stack of SC batteries in every combat tower, and plz do this atleast

[sterile stratus]

good to see someone eating more power than me

[ruby sorrel]

yan ning might be out cus of event

[viscid plover]

yea i been getting every other 3

maybe maybe

was thinking if she's gone i might remove her line lol

anyway good checking on

[sterile stratus]

1k power right

[meager stream]

full setup hahah (factories, zipline delivery, turrets)

[ruby sorrel]

it's just 1.... or 3 zips extra

[shadow void]

I don't know what you mean, i don't do the math here, i just add and remove splitters

[viscid plover]

it's because my line in interconnected i could reroute it closer towards the owl

[sterile stratus]

you have the potential to lower it

i don't

[ruby sorrel]

oh mine just goes up from owl, it could be shorter if I optimized for yan ning

[shadow void]

I'm almost tearing up seeing ppl burn Stockbills for power

[sterile stratus]

huh

i'll clean my mess now

[viscid plover]

was thinking if i were to remove yan ning line i could go straight towards owl instead of going towards the roof first

but yea just gona hold on for now maybe until 1.3

[ruby sorrel]

yeah mine goes up from the bottom, just give us 200m ziplines or something

[sterile stratus]

just give zipline of the sky atp

[viscid plover]

i enter via the main gate because main character syndrome

[sterile stratus]

endmin buy a helicopter pls

this good enough? (ignore the arrows) or should i get the igneosite from the right side

[meager stream]

Making hetonite & xircon, yah i just put them naturally so not aesthetic & neat

[reef dagger]

does the 👍 give any special hidden bonus?

[viscid plover]

could be cleaner

[meager stream]

no, its for recommendation trades only xD

[warped delta]

https://tenor.com/view/food-eating-spaghetti-gif-12269954

[sterile stratus]

eliminate the zipline near tp?

[ruby sorrel]

how does that xircon have a sewage out wait is that just 1 line?

[viscid plover]

for yours the one relay next to the ore on top of a pylon seems excessive because you could increase the range with that

they so close

[sterile stratus]

ah

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878
Time to overthinking xD

[sterile stratus]

i just wanted to ask about the ziplines in the area, i'm reworking my whole pylon placement

thanks anyway

[viscid plover]

zipline placement is good

[sterile stratus]

mhm ok

[shadow void]

here's my Marker Stone, I'm at 4.7k power atm and this is all off, this is only for Phase 2 of the event. Turning all this on puts my power at 5.7k.

[sterile stratus]

zipline there could be a little hard for me to eliminate, the distance is 100m

[shadow void]

i'm also making everything else thats standard

Skyking is full, and i'm literally a few buildings away from 512 cap in Wuling AIC

[meager stream]

[sterile stratus]

the game doesnt have a ruler on the map lol

[sterile stratus]

bro can't lose 50/50 because he has nearly 8k power in akef!

[viscid plover]

if i were to place one in that area next to the TP mine still connected

[sterile stratus]

mhm

lemme change the zipline near tp

[valid gazelle]

tf bro has enough power for both V4 and Wuling 💀

[meager stream]

my advice is put a zipline near TP & then connect them up to you, cuz of lazy running :3

[sweet sky]

S T U F F E D

[sterile stratus]

or i just make endmin do some exercise daily

[valid gazelle]

[meager stream]

3 scw & 12/m producing :3

[sterile stratus]

same

[valid gazelle]

crossing that river is cinematic

[valid gazelle]

even more so when the tide was still high

[sterile stratus]

i'm high||er than the water||

[valid gazelle]

can even see the test site

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-endfield-meme-takdes-takundes-gif-5604386743971804199

[shadow void]

zipline from the TP on the right only goes to the rare gatherables, only reason to go to monitoring center is for depot mission which is gonna start down south anyway

[sterile stratus]

[valid gazelle]

red

💀

[sterile stratus]

not powered yet, i'm reworking the power line

[meager stream]

wait, h-how to get there (dark area) xD

[sterile stratus]

make endmin climb mountains

wake endmin up and tell him to exercise daily and he can climb it one day

[valid gazelle]

💀

[sterile stratus]

bro got lazy with the ziplines

[valid gazelle]

reminder that we have some people pulling pipes from the heavens

even more so with piss of the heaven

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/pengmin-endministrator-arknights-endfield-gif-11276222183639404861

[sterile stratus]

Factory of babel

[shadow void]

the X tags are my pipelines/manifolds

[valid gazelle]

i dont zipline to rare spawns... i just run there

collect fluffed jincao and thorny yazhen along the way

(totally not because i've hit 512)

(totally believe me)

[shadow void]

I do that for marker just to collect the jincao/yahzen

[meager stream]

ah ya true

[sterile stratus]

my map is reduced to 302/350 🥹

[viscid plover]

better than mine im at 309

[valid gazelle]

im at pi lol

π

[viscid plover]

you run to rare mats but 26 still

[valid gazelle]

still have to do deliveries

[shadow void]

[viscid plover]

oooo multi route make sense, faster deliveries

[meager stream]

i just realized if in qingbo can connect entrance to ancestral spring & in markerstone can connect entrance to urban development xD

[valid gazelle]

i can branch out from the residental area..

but i dont intend to ruin my wife's city landsacpe

that probably gonna save like.. 3 or 4 zipline towers

[sterile stratus]

is my zipline good

ignore the pylons and power tower

[stiff sparrow]

does anyone know why an Expanded Crucible will clog, when it should output all the components in the cycle? it takes up an extra six seconds to do the four second process of making hetonite, making the entire process take ten seconds.

[green sleet]

I think its a bug. That or it's getting pissed over not having anywhere to put the waste water

[vale topaz]

screenshot your whole hetonite line

[green sleet]

Oh. You werent talking about a Xircon line. Nvm.

[stiff sparrow]

I found that to work - gonna add a water treatment plant.

[sterile stratus]

so close...

[valid gazelle]

that triggered me so hard

like.. whyyyy

[stiff sparrow]

they know what they are doing

[late zodiac]

What's the point of mass producing hetonite over yazhen A?

[valid gazelle]

less power

maybe (???) every so slightly more profitable

[vale topaz]

that's one of the reason why hydro rig is superior.

[valid gazelle]

ye but we cant hydro mine this

[vale topaz]

wait, isn't that wuling ?

[valid gazelle]

isnt hyromining "copium" only ?

[vale topaz]

what ? no, can be applied to any ore node

[valid gazelle]

WHAT

AH DANGIT

welp

[vale topaz]

uhh yeah, it can be applied to every node at wuling map....

[valid gazelle]

i now have something to do

i thought it was a copium exclusive

[vale topaz]

owh

well, it's trade off between power saving vs using more protocol capacity

[orchid pilot]

no, it's identical profit

[orchid pilot]

the reason I switched to full heto is futureproofing

[valid gazelle]

ye i couldnt figure out the math but i didnt notice any difference

[orchid pilot]

I think it's a reasonable expectation that eventually we'll get A-level battery that uses hetonite and heavy xiranite

[viscid plover]

some people put all their pump in main AIC and conduit all the way to each mine spot, insane stuff

[orchid pilot]

or at least, some higher level assembly

[valid gazelle]

maaaaaaaaaaaan

ive been living in a cave for all this time

this saves me so much power..

[late zodiac]

Makes sense but we should get more cuprium when that happens

[orchid pilot]

it's not much savings on ori nodes

it's big savings on the ferrium cluster

[valid gazelle]

less electricty means less relays and pylons

MORE FACILITIES IN THE AIC

[vale topaz]

are you going to build a wall of protocol stashes ?

[valid gazelle]

yes

[vale topaz]

protocol stash cult member spotted

[valid gazelle]

i even placed protocol stashes around aluvium to assert dominance

[orchid pilot]

should, definitely. the fact that it's no different from the equivalent prod of yazhen a + c makes it a pretty straightforward decision imo. I guess the major drawback being that it can only be spent at one outpost for now

[viscid plover]

i just recently removed mine otherwise i could've shown mine for the funny

[meager stream]

Location next map - test area

[ruby sorrel]

nah I have pumps around the relays I have for zips to save protocol at the expense of a few more pipe logistics, though the count on those is hard to judge which uses more

it's more convenient if the pumps are sorta close to the mines

[late zodiac]

Nothing is technically stopping me from running fluid lines between different PAC locations right

[viscid plover]

same here
i also think using multiple conduit across the whole wuling area is less efficient
but each to their own

the only 1 use case i agree with is the acid

because you can't have it any other way

[old ice]

I think it looks quite pretty

[ruby sorrel]

ahhh the bridges, it burns 🔥

[vale topaz]

it's beautiful

[pulsar cypress]

Abomination.. °-°)

[ruby sorrel]

I did that before, and then I hit 512 and had to undo them

now I just make long snakes that don't overlap

game doesn't want us to have equal length belts by weaving corners

[sterile stratus]

no way it went below 300 😭

let's go

[valid gazelle]

the forbidden snek 🐍 technique

[valid gazelle]

where are ya guns at

[sterile stratus]

no gun yet

i've deleted em

also i have no need to farm there so i didn't rebuild

[viscid plover]

or just fight them like a chad

[valid gazelle]

still so.. amazed i built this

[sterile stratus]

manually fighting in the big wuling🥀

[valid gazelle]

damn i built this ??

[sterile stratus]

water snek?

[valid gazelle]

i have ground snek and water snek

which one do you need

🐍

[sterile stratus]

ooh

what about real snek

[valid gazelle]

we havent got a real snek yet..

[storm junco]

Can we make xircon with 1 exp crucible?

[valid gazelle]

but i do have Ho'olheyak in AK

[sterile stratus]

mhm

[vale topaz]

in b4 gas snek for next region

[valid gazelle]

no doubt

snek supremacy

🐍

[vale topaz]

15/m yes, reduce the sewage input by half too.

[old ice]

self-enclosed xiranite right side ver: EFO019A61iE6U6eA85uI2
self-enclosed xiranite left side ver: EFO01u1IoaUI6I0a0AoOU

[storm junco]

Is there a way to manage sewage?

[valid gazelle]

either you reuse them our you treat them

prefer the first one

[storm junco]

Cannot you just store them in a tank?

[valid gazelle]

you can

but why..

[viscid plover]

~~ bottle them ~~

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/bkEKw.gif

[viscid plover]

save 30 power

[valid gazelle]

its gonna fill up anyway

[viscid plover]

just to clarify i don't do that

[valid gazelle]

[shadow void]

why do we do anything

[viscid plover]

68k into depot

pretty safe imo

[green sleet]

Is there any use for cryston bottles yet?

[shadow void]

yes, i'm bottling sewage in 4 diff bottle types

[viscid plover]

damn here we go

[shadow void]

just to fill, could be used to transfer liquids via filler and separator stations

[storm junco]

Using inlet to pump out liquid x.x

[green sleet]

I see.

[meager stream]

sewage bottle & then using jet spray

[storm junco]

If only we have unlimited sewage bottle

[viscid plover]

i wouldn't use ferrium bottle there maybe make heto bottle to show dominance, imagine 68k heto bottle just to use as sewage disposal

[vale topaz]

member of bottle cult

[shadow void]

HEY, You cant talk Mr. Over 9000

[viscid plover]

[meager stream]

🥲

[sterile stratus]

best served chilled

[green sleet]

I wish the jet drone did damage if you hosed something down in Xiranite or acid

[vale topaz]

in b4 a new bomb introduced using acid

[shadow void]

I started late, only 174k total sewage saved

[meager stream]

or...pour them to sea 💀 🗿

[green sleet]

Nah. Thats where my used batteries go

[shadow void]

Really tho, i'm only hopeing the sewage comes in handy when the Purification Nodes become available in Test Area

[sterile stratus]

when i can drink blight

[viscid plover]

yea do we know what it turns into yet?

[sterile stratus]

into drinks ofc

i got bored with s*wage and xir

[shadow void]

could be Inert Xircon Effluent or Xircon Effluent, i couldnt tell from the image of the nodes

[viscid plover]

hmmm

[sterile stratus]

hmmm

[meager stream]

next idea....is acid bottles 💀🗿

[shadow void]

mmmh

[lofty lodge]

Re-optimize my SC battery farm, now i recycle some clogged oil from cuprium to turn into xiranite influent to make Heavy xeranite. Dear god this game.

[vale topaz]

.... this production event will be wild if the content about combining all liquid color then bottle the result.

[sterile stratus]

ngl that's fire

[shadow void]

Wish they could of done something like this for Valley IV, place is a forgotten realm

[viscid plover]

alchemist event

[vale bramble]

shampoo for all the stinky wulingers

in a jade bottle ofcourse

[old ice]

lol my main AIC is pretty empty

[vale topaz]

either instant bald or instant hair growth 💀

[sterile stratus]

wym yield 481😭

[green sleet]

Howre you guys getting an arial shot like that? I havent messed with the camera much

[valid gazelle]

give them oripathy

[vale bramble]

it's secretly nitroglycerin

[valid gazelle]

💀

[vale bramble]

there's a bridge on a mountain behind the AIC factory

[green sleet]

Oooh. Hellyeah, i appreciate the info

[twin oak]

hi is anyone willing to help a newbie in getting wuling factory up and running? at an odd spot where i just finished story but i have way more unlocked at 1.2 patch than most starting guides on youtube at 1.0

[valid gazelle]

[vale bramble]

fangyi 🤤

[valid gazelle]

you can have shots like this ~

[iron stratus]

why is wuling orange

[shadow void]

filters

[valid gazelle]

gold filter

[dense blade]

probably just get a 1.0 factory running first and switch to 1.1/1.2 when your RDL is higher

[iron stratus]

is this a cuprium city

[shadow void]

adds little particles too

[valid gazelle]

no its originium city

[iron stratus]

they mean nitroglycerine

[iron stratus]

same chemical between the medication and the explosive

[sterile stratus]

don't always read the AI summary

[meager stream]

uwoooogh....dryness smile

[twin oak]

all the yt vids i watch have really slow start with barely anything to sell, so leveling up outposts and expanding feels really hard, just wanted to see if anyone would know what i can put to make it more efficient

[shadow void]

I've got a Manifold 4/s Line that'll probably be Sewage going from Main AIC to Test Area. Then along a similar route I have 2 pipleines 2/s each going to and coming from Test Area from Main AIC. You guys think that'll be enough?

[sterile stratus]

get some sewage to hydrate?

[shadow void]

I've you have your ValleyIV maxed out and producing tons of batteries you can try manually transfering HC batteries from ValleyIV to Wuling, that way you can profit on all the batteries you make in Wuling.

[twin oak]

i do have my valley4 maxed out and making max profits everyday yea

oh i can sell HC bats from valley4 to wuling?

[valid gazelle]

just a thing i want to point out (no offense to guide makers, you guys are magical) is that this game is quite progressive. What I meant is that you go from low to high efficiency throughout stages, and.. there isn't really a definitive way to speedrun this (ofc you can be as efficient as you can be but I feel like there is a limitation there, esp the outpost earning rate)

[dense blade]

What you can make just depends on how much ore you have on hand. I’m assuming you have access to cuprium, but just not an adequate amount of originium for a full V1.1/1.2 blueprint. You could try finding a 6/min SC battery set up for stockbills for now since those are the main income drivers. Use the remaining xiranite to make gourds.

[twin oak]

yes im at a very odd spot, i do have access but not enough for a full gig

[dense blade]

exact numbers please

[vale topaz]

• import hc battery from valley4, about 20k should do for starting.
• start with producing xiranite, if you already research till 8 forges, deploy all of them ( i think you can only deploy 2 at 1st due to no xiranite production, reward from aic training )
• once your xiranite production is up and running, make sure all mining spot get mining rig.
• then start making cuprium part, stack a bit, change all mining rig with hydro rig to reduce power usage.
• meanwhile focus on making item for event, it will cost you 3 xiranite line for 6/m

once stabilize , can start making lc battery to trade at outpost until your outpost upgraded and can trade better product.

[sterile stratus]

isn't 20k a bit too much

[twin oak]

think its capped cuz low lv depot

[vale topaz]

it's a buffer....

[dense blade]

if you have 8 forges unlocked, the easiest thing to do is to just go for 16/min gourds

[sterile stratus]

getting stuff for LC should take less than an hour

[valid gazelle]

last long enough to make basic production lines i think

[sterile stratus]

uh

[twin oak]

thank you

[sterile stratus]

fair enough

[dense blade]

oh damn

[green sleet]

Found the spot i think?

[sterile stratus]

yo can you give me 18k copium please

[dense blade]

I mean it’s enough for 6/min sc

[shadow void]

If you consume 4/m a full stack of 68k HC ValleyIV batteries from will last you 11 days

[sterile stratus]

4/min...

[shadow void]

hes not fully up and running so its just an estimate

[sterile stratus]

about 2933w?

[green sleet]

2 gets you to 6.6

Wait sorry. I need to read... thought that was Wuling bats

[shadow void]

8-5/m

those smaller dips are 4

[sterile stratus]

8

hm

[small creek]

yeesh

[shadow void]

my powers not that bad

[dense blade]

[small creek]

Yeah but like transferring every 11 days can be annoying

[sterile stratus]

4.7k lol

[shadow void]

like 3 times a day, max 30 seconds to do so

[sterile stratus]

mine is 5.5k

[small creek]

proposition

use 1.5/min

do 1 import every 30 days

[shadow void]

and turn my factory off?

[small creek]

no?

start using your scw

along with hcv

[shadow void]

nah, full send on the HCV

[small creek]

Me when i love more manual work

[shadow void]

3-4 transfers a day is literraly nothing

[small creek]

For u i guess

to me thats really annoying

[green sleet]

Wouldnt it be easier to just use the W set of batteries?

[shadow void]

you'd probably die if you relized how many bottles i manually transfer

[shadow void]

Yeah, but then i'd be wasting stockbills

[small creek]

Not really, its not my funeral lol

what i cant stand are stashes

[green sleet]

Lol i see now. Its about that money

[sterile stratus]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[sterile stratus]

nice i got 2 peak

[shadow void]

Also got 80k Hetonite, Hvy Xiranite and SCW Batteries in V4 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sterile stratus]

wow lol

[green sleet]

Youll never run out of power.

[sterile stratus]

no one will run out of power unless they don't know what to do

[vale topaz]

if about stacking, stack LC bat so when new sub pac introduced, can do very fast upgrade in case new sub pac won't receive SC bat at lvl 1.

[green sleet]

Well... yeah, but their stockpile could probably outlast the heatdeath of the universe

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

is that always the case tho

[iron stratus]

if test area doesnt take heto parts, heavy xira, or sc batteries at level 1 it might be hopeless

[shadow void]

you mean if it has an outpost and those things sell there? If it does it'll for sure take SC batteries

[iron stratus]

there will be an outpost there

they said so

[shadow void]

can you point me to where?

I haven't see anything

i even rewatched the devlog or whatever to see the Purification Node again

[green sleet]

Did they announce it on social media?

[vale topaz]

no, nothing about another outpost for the whole 1.2 patch except that marker stone one.

[shadow void]

I didnt see anything, but I dont really check there

[green sleet]

Damn.

[iron stratus]

did they not show the test area outpost in promo photos

[vale topaz]

the devlog was talking about introducing 2 new areas and 1 sub pac which focus on acid

[valid gazelle]

time to rebuild my factory.. again

[shadow void]

not to my knowledge, i'll google it. Like Gespenst said tho, they only mentioned 2 areas and 1 outpost in the devlog

[vale topaz]

???? wait, why ?

[sterile stratus]

time for me to copy your factory

[valid gazelle]

[iron stratus]

4 new forges

[valid gazelle]

nah my sub pác are all over the place

[vale topaz]

owh, yeah, for the 2nd half of 1.2

[valid gazelle]

i want to clean that up

not really affected by the forges..

[sterile stratus]

my fktory doesn't need a rework yet so imma leave it as-is for now

new content is the time i copy someone else's factory

[valid gazelle]

of all the factories.. you copy mine ?

[dense blade]

part 2?

240 cuprium

[valid gazelle]

ignore that SIRcon ... i simplied it to 4 crucibles

havent updated the schematics yet

[vale topaz]

when next patch arrived, just need to put another template of dual xiranite line i have at wuling or marker stone.... along with another triplet sandleaf and double/quad jincao

[valid gazelle]

gonna see how much copium we are getting

[dense blade]

gonna refrain myself from using Wuling City to avoid facility cap issues

[valid gazelle]

im already hitting that cap

[sterile stratus]

best i can do is 60

[valid gazelle]

[dense blade]

yea thus my point

[green sleet]

Im struggling to compact my hetonite line without making the pipes look ugly or losing any semblance of symmetry.

[vale topaz]

the annoying part is that number is invisible : (
have to spam pipe distribution and belt to know how many more....

[dense blade]

you can’t be compact and organized at the same time

[valid gazelle]

^^^^

[green sleet]

Damn... thats a fair point.

[dense blade]

pipe and belt are calculated separately

I found out uh

[valid gazelle]

Modular factories look nice but they cant be compact
Optimized factories are super compact, but they cant look as nice or symmetrical

[dense blade]

by overcompacting marker stone

[vale topaz]

yeah and the limit remain invisible ..
why are they doing that ..

[dense blade]

I prefer optimized

over modular

modular sucks bc it runs from unloaders

[sterile stratus]

what's wrong with unloaders

[dense blade]

straight from production is more easy to tune

[shadow void]

I like having space to do other things

[dense blade]

also easy to spot bugs

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

[valid gazelle]

its either performance or aesthetics ~ you cant ask for both ~

[dense blade]

if it’s straight from production

even a bit of production delay fries everything

[green sleet]

Have they mentioned changing the seperator to let us pick which output we want for liquids? I thought it was kind of annoying that they did it that way

[dense blade]

and you immediately notice the bugs

[valid gazelle]

so optimized bases are harder to build.. a goldfish brain like mine can only do modular

[sterile stratus]

i can only copy

[dense blade]

yea modular takes so much less time

[vale topaz]

isn't that the job for control node ?

[dense blade]

my 1.2 part 1 took me 15-20 hours maybe

[valid gazelle]

^^^

my 1.2 part 1 took me roughly 6 hours

significantly faster build

but then again.. not optimized

look at my protocol stashes being clogged by a trillion sandleaf powder

there are pros and cons to everything ~ its just.. building my own, even tho its not as good as others, and watching it work brings me satisfaction

and that's the goal isnt it

[green sleet]

I dont follow? I just wish i could swap which side the acid comes out of so i dont need to use a pipe bridge in my design. Just an ocd gripe lol

[valid gazelle]

on the purifier ?

i still dont know why the purifer output is fixed

[dense blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1481956319614341161/1494959742408458351/IMG_2896.png?ex=69f3aa81&is=69f25901&hm=387c661f01833f6dcba899f6796477af82430dcfddaa3e22da5122c5ae207823&

[valid gazelle]

like... whyyy

[green sleet]

Thats the word! I thought it was called a seperator

[valid gazelle]

also.. no

unfortunately

[dense blade]

real

[green sleet]

That makes me hurt inside. Such a flawed ui choice 😭

[valid gazelle]

look at this monstrosity

[shadow void]

if it works it works

[dense blade]

not that bad

[valid gazelle]

ye i have to clean that up

i feel like i can make it better

[dense blade]

i would place conduits outside

but that’s inconvenient for guides

so I don’t

[vale topaz]

owh the purification unit

[dense blade]

or at least avoid it

[valid gazelle]

ye imma cut down my conduit usage too

pipes look better

[vale topaz]

just waiting for extra cuprium node

[buoyant siren]

@jovial breach I'll have a setup like this my stuff just stops working or runs out of mats.

[jovial breach]

[valid gazelle]

what is that

[scarlet osprey]

im here to gripe about rocks

[jovial breach]

I think your sandleaf loop is not correct

[scarlet osprey]

and sewage

[valid gazelle]

try this simple sandleaf loop

[jovial breach]

Someone send an sandleaf farm

[valid gazelle]

its the seeder that outputs 2

[jovial breach]

Yeah that

[valid gazelle]

not the planter

[scarlet osprey]

can we talk on how the planter is annoying so large

[buoyant siren]

so it's 1 seeder 2 planter?

[jovial breach]

Yep

[valid gazelle]

yes

[buoyant siren]

oh okay

[scarlet osprey]

yes

[buoyant siren]

I was just doing 1 for 1 because I thought that was enough

[valid gazelle]

wdym large

[scarlet osprey]

its just takes up a large estate

[valid gazelle]

look at my planter of the sky

perfectly fits into the schematics

[scarlet osprey]

i hate to be that guy but its jsut doesnt...SYMETTRY

i cant spell it

[valid gazelle]

asymmetrical ?

[scarlet osprey]

i play factorio so im used to sphagetti but its a bigger patch of area

also i learned that water treatments can be outside of the aic so thats cool

[valid gazelle]

if something doesnt need conveyor > it can be outside

can "cheat" some production lines with that

[scarlet osprey]

its takes the power lines number limit tho

[valid gazelle]

ye it does use protocol capacity

but its not like you're at 350

right ?

[scarlet osprey]

yes

i may have put too much stuff

[valid gazelle]

oof

[scarlet osprey]

my map is like an abstract painting

i dont even wann alook at it

[vale topaz]

as long as it works

[valid gazelle]

exactly ~

the only bad factory is the factory that doesn't work

[small creek]

the goal is what you make it

compact, power efficient, aesthetic, modular, etc

you cant have them all

[late zodiac]

How are you not over-taxing your water source running it to two forges and two planters

[autumn maple]

dafaq wrong with these number . . .

[valid gazelle]

2 pumps

[jovial breach]

Something clogged?

[autumn maple]

if anything, only sandleaf, on rare case.

i tried check everything in here, didnt the carbon works normal

but it degenerate my xiranite since yesterday

[jovial breach]

Hmm doesn't look anything is wrong for me

[jovial breach]

Check your xiranite

Set it to 1d

[jovial breach]

💀 im afraid

[autumn maple]

this is stupid

[jovial breach]

That's the offline bug

[autumn maple]

wtf

any trick to solve that

if that really the issue

[valid gazelle]

each of these is resposible for 1 double production line (the outlet you find in the middle)

[late zodiac]

You can link the double inlet to a single outlet?

[valid gazelle]

yep

[jovial breach]

Normally i wouldn't care about it because you lose too little to matter, but i believe you can reduce the loss if you add 1 more belt to get the build up xiranite out from forge

[void owl]

slegehammers or telas for open world energy etch?

[valid gazelle]

mortars

lots of them

[autumn maple]

if not because of the gourd event, i wouldnt care either

but my xira stock are degenerating

i will let it go... and recheck again at night..

[green sleet]

3 is better than 2? I just did this and let it fill both outputs before belting to depot

[vale topaz]

for valley 4 plant ( buckleberry / citrome / sandleaf / aketine ) it is 1 seeder 2 planter.
for wuling plant ( jincao / yanzhen ) it is 1 seeder 1 planter

[valid gazelle]

that is wrong..

[vale topaz]

1 seeder into 2 planter. 1 of the planter feed seeder and 1 of the planter to depot loader / stash or other production chain

[valid gazelle]

wait..

oh right

half the production

[green sleet]

I see. It was self sufficient so i never thought to update

[valid gazelle]

technically..... it is self-sufficient.. you are only yielding 15/min

[valid gazelle]

this whole system can be cut down to 2 planters 1 seeder

instead of 2 planters 2 seeders

[vale topaz]

my not so optimized herb farming

[viscid plover]

bruh

[vale topaz]

already turned it in bp, don't want to mess with it.
for v4 : single version, double version, triple version.
for wuling : single version, double version, quad version.

[void owl]

does anyone have a optmized bp for using expended crucible to produce xicron?

[jovial breach]

@autumn maple oh also check for carbon build up too

[autumn maple]

the production back to normal, after i slap all yazhen seed on plantation

altho i believe there shouldnt be an issue in there

bcoz i already checked everything b4 i post there

[jovial breach]

For me

[autumn maple]

i was thinking of believe the "data bug"

[jovial breach]

The carbon build up in the grinders

958/min when i set to 1d

[autumn maple]

it also started on my yazhen plantation aswell

now slapped them all in , seems fixed it for now

[jovial breach]

I mean

If the carbon builds up

Ofc the plant will also build up

[autumn maple]

i also slap the carbon tbh

[jovial breach]

Unfortunately i dont have spare space for more belts

[jovial breach]

I'll just accept the loss

[autumn maple]

idk whats happening on long term

but i will watch it again later

[jovial breach]

It's the offline belt bug

[autumn maple]

it fixed for now atleast

[jovial breach]

Has been there since game launch

[autumn maple]

i see

[jovial breach]

Belt will be 1% slower when you go offline

[void owl]

does anyone have a optmized bp for using expended crucible to produce xicron?

[small creek]

you can minimize the loss by having shorter beltage btw

[atomic fiber]

before when i go full gourd, someone say to me it's not efficient because SC battery have more bills value per xiranite.

but now I'm doing 8/min gourd and 13.25/min SC, this actually make me thing, do i even need SC? you can only sell so much goods anyway... but even then if you do full gourd what even is the use of those excess gourd?

at the end seems like we are just playing stockpiling stuff, which is pretty number on depot, but useless sht

[autumn maple]

im pretty much thinking about this is a "real bug"

bcoz i only suffered it rightnow

i never suffered this ever since the game launch, even with "my own-messedup-belt optimization creation in valley"

kind of annoying to see my xiranite getting degen in the stock

[ruby sorrel]

might be a real hiccup somewhere

[jovial breach]

Someone at hg messed up the code probably

[autumn maple]

[small creek]

Jade gourd > Hxira > regular gourd

By doing 8/min gourd, you dont make hxira

[vale topaz]

hmm, less 1 grid line but use more electric pylon....

[small creek]

Also jade gourd uses hxira anw, best to stock up now so u can double prod on phase 2

[atomic fiber]

this is false on long run, since you will only make gourd, as much as needed. which later will just be turned into H xira

[autumn maple]

is this the spoiler for phase 2 event ?

jade gourd

[small creek]

Jade gourd is more bills per xiranite

Making regular gourd rn is getting less for same amt

When u can be patient and play the long game

[atomic fiber]

i don't think bills, per xiranite have any value. since you will be able to always use all those bill on outpost anyway

[small creek]

It does in fact have value

[atomic fiber]

like 80k heavy xir on valley?

[atomic fiber]

pretty number sure