aic-factory

[limber basin]

ive tried to empty sewage but it also didnt work

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[orchid pilot]

yeah, what someone else asked, how much are you feeding?

[jovial breach]

Mine looks like this

[limber basin]

just 1

[orchid pilot]

should be half

[limber basin]

wdym

[marble yarrow]

mine actually behaves great

[vast iron]

whats your input into the crucible?

[subtle finch]

[orchid pilot]

if you're running this as a 15/min xircon all-in-one, it should be half a line of sewage from refiner

[vast iron]

this shi is fucking beautiful

[orchid pilot]

if it's the safer setup then that's different

[marble yarrow]

death by sewage

[vast iron]

Safer setupis, fill ~half and then cut off

[orchid pilot]

but the safer setup wouldn't be in this situation

[limber basin]

let me print the outsude one sec

[vast iron]

hep

yep

[jovial breach]

0.25 sewage/sec cursed ratio

[vast iron]

Either its half setup or you didnt remove after plugging in

[subtle finch]

i knew algo was sus when they said sewage clog got patched

[small creek]

Can we vote him out

[subtle finch]

[small creek]

[jovial breach]

Imposta

[small creek]

haha no energy

[marble yarrow]

bro gonna loan some SCs

[limber basin]

how am i suposed to input less sewage

IT WAS LITERALLY WORKING 2 DAYS AGO

[pure egret]

are you sure 2 is enough? going down fast

[jovial breach]

Use the other setup

It's fail safe

[vale topaz]

not producing heavy xiranite and hetonite ?

[limber basin]

wdym

[marble yarrow]

2 belts from each carbon shredder

you forgot

[jovial breach]

If you input 0.5/sec xircon liquid into this system, the sewage will be self sustain and you dont need to feed sewage anymore

[pure egret]

that makes sense

[marble yarrow]

da safe 12/min SC reactor system

[jovial breach]

Yes

[tall tangle]

if i take shot each time xircon reactor question rises, i die in less than a week

[jovial breach]

Basically, the bottom one only feed xircon liquid into the upper one

[vital narwhal]

there is a reason why this channel sees way more questions about 4x 15/min setups vs. 2x 30/min

[limber basin]

omg

[marble yarrow]

you dont even need to treat the sewage. its the exact demand from cuprium

[jovial breach]

Wait whay

[marble yarrow]

there is no sewage bug anymore

[orchid pilot]

wait what, there's still excess sewage overall that needs treatment, right?

[jovial breach]

No not the bug i mean how

Im using 5 treatment total

Technically 4 but i put 5 to be safe

[vital narwhal]

yes they just mean 1 refinery sewage output perfect match for one crucible

[marble yarrow]

i mean the SC system only needs 60 sewage right?

[jovial breach]

1 sewage /sec yea

[jovial breach]

So the rest is 4 go into treatment units

[marble yarrow]

some half xircon setups have treatment after reactors 😭

[orchid pilot]

you need two belts connected from the carbon shredder to the grinder, like hikarin drew for you
that means you will have to move your bottom pylon down

[swift steppe]

If you're cramming everything into two expanded crucibles, apparently the sewage produced is enough for 1x Cuprium sewage input across both.

[marble yarrow]

they're waiting to go to test area

[jovial breach]

Actually great idea i should set this up too

[vital narwhal]

was this laid using unstuck or just walking?

[marble yarrow]

tp

[tall tangle]

pac it teleportable

[jovial breach]

That's illegal placement

[marble yarrow]

first one is PAC, 2nd one is this tp below

[vital narwhal]

yea I forgot about using tp, I didn't use for hydropump

[final sierra]

is that illegal enough?)

[meager stream]

same with placing ziplines from monitoring area to qijian dais 💀🗿

[tall tangle]

better do that after area open imo. we dont know layout there yet

[marble yarrow]

actually i can extend it if i place the PAC in the corner lmaooo

[vital narwhal]

I mean reasonably the only place test area could connect to is that landmass

[marble yarrow]

we already know the entrance tho

[tall tangle]

still a bit of a gamble. tp's there might be more convenient

[vale topaz]

sequence of 2 expanded crucible -> 1 xircon.

1. crucible 1 : input 1 water, 1 sewage, 1 xiranite to produce liquid xircon and xircon waste
2. crucible 2 : get liquid xircon , input 1 water, 1 sewage, 1 xiranite, 1 ferrium dust, waiting sewage
3. crucible 1 : input 1 water, 1 sewage, 1 xiranite to produce liquid xircon and xircon waste
   4.crucible 2 : get liquid xircon, input 1 water, 1 sewage, 1 xiranite, 1 ferrium dust, produce sewage, sewage used for self producing liquid xircon , produce xircon, produce xircon waste repeat step 3 and 4 until xircon maxed

[jovial breach]

[marble yarrow]

i mean you still have to put pipes up to this point

[viscid plover]

[vital narwhal]

can we get a server mod to make a discord poll about whether or not test area will have infinite sewage pool or not? thx

[jovial breach]

Use your sanity

[marble yarrow]

also connecting conduits with the longest possible pipe also helps

[limber basin]

i get what you guys mean

[limber basin]

but doesnt that kinda kills the objective of having an exoanded crucible in the first place

[limber basin]

wasnt it supossed to just do everything in ONE crucible

[vital narwhal]

Is this pipe clipping through ground? ik you posted shenanigans with "underground" pipes, couldn't seem to get working myself

[marble yarrow]

i pipe it normally over ground first. then you just connect them after

then after connecting, the slope from start to end is constant, therefore it clips under ground

[clear silo]

heres a before of my qingbo stockade :D

[bitter zenith]

how does this work?

[vital narwhal]

enter pipe mode, select starting location, walk around, and place at end location? or missing a step?

[vital narwhal]

oic that's where I missed step ty

[marble yarrow]

actually i go on the highground first, then pipe to lower ground, and reverse the flow

[jovial breach]

Holy infographic

[marble yarrow]

most endfield industries scene ever

[small creek]

omg its the industries

[viscid plover]

you need to zoom in more to see the pipe, your image doesn't show anything

[tall tangle]

the point is, you dont really need power or pumps there

[marble yarrow]

fr

2 pumps supremacy

[viscid plover]

you still need power + you use more conduit to compensate

[vale topaz]

heavy xiranite using crucible and forge alone ?
insert water + xiranite + sewage into crucible, send xircon effluent into forge.
send xircon waste into water treatment.
i think the crucible output got switched....

[marble yarrow]

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK

[tall tangle]

yeah, but conduits go further

[shut hearth]

Bro uses capital letters like trump tweets lol

[marble yarrow]

bro i forgot them

[tall tangle]

smuggler's cave

[lost lantern]

Only a trumpie would know that info btw, otherwise you’d have him blocked

[shut hearth]

They have breached the containment

[hard sail]

Brother every social media site reposts his tweets

[marble yarrow]

(these proto stashes walk when you are not looking at them)

[hard sail]

Even news channels post his tweets

[shut hearth]

Oh my god libtards are real

[vale topaz]

you are secretly a member of protocol stash cult

[lost lantern]

Ur ruining it btw

[viscid plover]

it does go further but also route vs wifi
each to their own i prefer my 3 relay that connects from the established line from qingbo line

[worldly holly]

help why my sc battery line have cryston bottles

[vale topaz]

check the content, pull out whatever inside or simply delete the unit and placed another grinding unit

[glossy nymph]

nan you transferring illegal loot

[worldly holly]

it still work perfectly but it make me scared

hope its just some weird bug

[glossy nymph]

getting troll by perlica

[vale topaz]

never seen that bug on pc.....

[jovial breach]

Sneaky cryston

[worldly holly]

perli pls stop im scared

[vale topaz]

🐍

[vital narwhal]

when your dense orignium doin funky cosplay

[dry ledge]

Hi everyone

So how much people do you guys deal with that just speed run the story with no knowledge of factory building at all

[devout topaz]

Look at my blueprint and I hope it can help :).
-Very easy
-For casual player like me (1 hours a day login)
-Small area needed.

[fervent lodge]

...four?

[jovial breach]

Four

[fervent lodge]

look recipe, it's 20/s jumpscare

[devout topaz]

Yes four

[jovial breach]

I was trying to find where you hid the 2nd packaging unit

[devout topaz]

No need. Just 1 is enough

[worldly holly]

prob underground

[tall tangle]

(4 is fine if 4th is output)

[devout topaz]

I forgot how many needed for each product so I put 4 for fast production. Something wrong?

[jovial breach]

Not wrong but like

Unoptimal

[devout topaz]

2 unloader, too long to produce. 4 is fast..

[solid quiver]

you wouldn't see any difference it's gonna be waste and bottleneck each other

[merry wagon]

I might be wrong, but I think yours run at the same speed as a 3 input design

[jovial breach]

3 unloader is the ideal, 1 go in fitting unit 2 go in moulding

[merry wagon]

[devout topaz]

Really? yes it's clogged, but better that way? I think.

[solid quiver]

I hope we could help you

[solid quiver]

nah

it's just waste

[devout topaz]

I see, 2 go to moulding

[jovial breach]

Yep if you look at the formula it's 2 xiranite every 2 sec

That means 2 belts

[solid quiver]

you have 60 parts/min + 30 bottle/min while maximum to make gourd is 30:30

[devout topaz]

This is my very first blueprint without looking any tutorial. You shouldn't insult my intelligence

[small creek]

no one was

[solid quiver]

may I ask who insulted you?

[jovial breach]

This gets awkward 😭

[devout topaz]

I don't know but look like someone mocking my blueprint

[viscid plover]

starts throwing hands

[solid quiver]

If you are taking kindred souls' advice to righteous path as insult, I dunno what to say

[devout topaz]

So many react with skull emojis, why? It's mine kinda weird?

[small creek]

If you mean the skull emojis, its because your blueprint was unoptimal

Have you heard of the saying "blind leading the blind"

[devout topaz]

It's just works. Isn't that all matters?

[solid quiver]

yes

[small creek]

It works, but to recommend something that is unoptimal is unacceptable

[devout topaz]

No. At least give some love

[solid quiver]

you are wasting resource and time

[small creek]

Youre asking the wrong person, i have standards

[devout topaz]

This my very first blueprint without looking guide from YouTube

[small creek]

I rarely give compliments

[viscid plover]

this reminds me of the 1 sandleaf into shredder 1 sandpowder out person
he made 3 of the same next to each other

[solid quiver]

so we guided you isn't that love you asked for?

[viscid plover]

it was peak

[jovial breach]

Did you expect "yes your design is so good, it's beautiful, bravo"

[green sleet]

No ones been making fun of you. We get that its your first bp, but that doesnt change that it isnt helping you

[jovial breach]

[small creek]

This is just criticism and feedback, no insult here, but no reason to give praise either idk

[devout topaz]

Are you saying those are trash and not working? I said yes it's clogged but it's produced something

[tall tangle]

bar is to low. who asks for praise each time after walking 5 steps?

[solid quiver]

no one mocked you but adviced you that you need optimizations

[small creek]

No one said that

No one ever mentioned the word trash or not working

The word is unoptimal

[jovial breach]

Why im looking like a bully now

[devout topaz]

At least if you can't show love, support it not mocking

[subtle finch]

made my catching up machine, hopefully it works

[small creek]

I cant support something that I dont agree with lol

thats just... lying to myself

[solid quiver]

not enough inert

[devout topaz]

This is good but complicated

[subtle finch]

false

[small creek]

what even is this gng

hxira from stockpile?

[subtle finch]

yeah, i stockpiled late

[solid quiver]

9/min Xiranite?

[devout topaz]

No. For each stuff I made first and store it until reach max. Then I build the end products to save are

[small creek]

lmao alr

[devout topaz]

Area

[small creek]

what

[devout topaz]

Do you understand?

[small creek]

i was talking to hikarin

[dry ledge]

How do I get more power

[jovial breach]

[dry ledge]

I sort of just like best story mode and

[small creek]

this is getting more awkward by the minute

[dry ledge]

I wanna make better gear but idk what im doing

[jovial breach]

What point are you at rn, are you making xiranite and lc battery?

[solid quiver]

you mean power by combat power or AIC factory power?

[jovial breach]

Combat power

My 9000 power rossi

[vital narwhal]

this the aic chat so surely aic power

[small creek]

first time i heard combat power 😭

cmon fam be real

[dry ledge]

I haven’t done anything

[dry ledge]

Factory power

[dry ledge]

Like the factory is EMPTY and I have NO stock bills

Well I have 5k bills but like

[solid quiver]

then deploy thermal banks

[vital narwhal]

power made by burning batteries in thermal banks. need to make batteries

[small creek]

a man has fallen into the river in lego city

[dry ledge]

You gotta remember I know NOTGUBG you’re saying

Like I’m not joking idk what any of these mean

[covert oak]

what does the new ore need as pump or mining rig ?

[small creek]

So im ngl fam the game has a tutorial for thermal banks, which are very very simple

[solid quiver]

you should have in your depot or AIC formula plan something

[dry ledge]

Skipper every tutorial

[small creek]

Well

[solid quiver]

hydro mining rig pumped by water

[covert oak]

the acid resistant one ?

[wheat loom]

guys rate how optimised this is (heavy xiranite production)

[dry ledge]

And like all the YouTube videos don’t help cuz I need insane requirements

[solid quiver]

no that's for piss looking pond

[small creek]

Yea all the yt vids tend to forget abt early and mid game

[jovial breach]

Ok first unlock environment monitoring node and complete its mission, that will give you your first wuling money to start, then go to valley bring as many purple battery as possible, use that to power kickstart your xiranite and wuling battery production

[vale bramble]

I don't see the blueprint compressed into a singularity or beyond (10/11)

[wheat loom]

good enough for me

[solid quiver]

replace that purification unit with water treatment unit

[viscid plover]

and that's all that matters

[wheat loom]

im just gonna add another forge producing heavy xiranite from the excess xiron effluent

no material can go to waste!!!

[dry ledge]

Okay so what’s purple battery

[solid quiver]

then you would need another 3 inert producing unit

[dry ledge]

Cause my valley 4 battery is on 200 so don’t expect me to have anything ready

[jovial breach]

HC valley battery

[small creek]

does your valley 4 factory have ANYTHING in it

[vital narwhal]

it sounds like no

[dry ledge]

NO I DO

[dry ledge]

I have bombs and buckflower powder and some weird amethyst thing

[solid quiver]

would you kindly replay the game from the start with reading

[viscid plover]

tutorial refinery

[wheat loom]

does the reaction crucible make one formula at a time only?

[viscid plover]

[solid quiver]

yes

[small creek]

so you dont have any batteries at all

[viscid plover]

it can make multiple at the same time

[dry ledge]

I hate tutorials

[jovial breach]

Yep, but the extended one makes 3 at a time

[solid quiver]

expanded does 3 different reactions at same time

[dry ledge]

Nope

[wheat loom]

thanks for claryfying that

[solid quiver]

which only be usable after release of test area

[jovial breach]

What

[vital narwhal]

there's no way there is purp battery production off of 200 power

[small creek]

Okay, then start with this
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464267337321681028

Then after you get some batteries, transition to this
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465637521148084247

Then once you upgrade the outposts enough, transition to this
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466134191434367264

[dry ledge]

Then how do I increase

[jovial breach]

I think

[solid quiver]

maybe with single or double units from each

[jovial breach]

You need someone 's hand

[small creek]

Follow those and youll eventually get blue batteries
For purple batteries (which is the tier after blue), theres a billion blueprints for that in #1461542035617091681

[wispy grove]

which one

[solid quiver]

more like irl too

[solid quiver]

he wouldn't find single bat production

[dry ledge]

It says unknown

[vital narwhal]

follow the links above, but the gist is you need to start making basic batteries and put them into thermal banks, hook up all the mining nodes, make more advanced batteries

[small creek]

Oml just click it will ya

[tall tangle]

[jovial breach]

Unknown boundary

Qyuri will guide you through the darkness

Hold his hand tightly

[small creek]

Not if i sleep first

I can only provide my bps and hope for the best

But theyve helped many a people

[wheat loom]

can the expanded reactor crucible do more than one formula at once if its the same formula?

[vital narwhal]

oh yea there's also this

.power

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1471756469375602689/image.png?ex=69901786&is=698ec606&hm=9cb4f0417dec3a1c6dcee743716710caf8510ddc1469a56af5d6b5b08c8881e1&

[vital narwhal]

but it's still reading so

[wheat loom]

like the cuprium powder + perticipation acid but 3 times at once in one crucible

[vital narwhal]

no, can only do different recipes in parallel

[wheat loom]

sadge

the normal crucible has the exact same recipes as the expanded one right?

[vital narwhal]

yea

[dry ledge]

My powers at 640 now

Wow

It’s no longer a small 200

[solid quiver]

same no
different yes

[small creek]

Yeap

Now that things are still simple, try to take a look inside the thermal bank

What you just did is make green batteries

and then when those green batteries go into a thermal bank, they give you power

can you tell me how much power each green battery gives

[jovial breach]

i forgot

[small creek]

I know the answer but its more of a test for them

To see if theres retention

[jovial breach]

guess i failed the test too

[small creek]

lmao

[jovial breach]

sorry teacher

[small creek]

I mean u dont need this test lol

[nova osprey]

im failing the test as well

[marble yarrow]

3 volts dc

[small creek]

No one answer for the love of god

[nova osprey]

[small creek]

wtf does that even mean 😭

like in endfield terms

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/tangtang-mifu-endfield-strangled-arknights-gif-2265947537331565601

[nova osprey]

[subtle finch]

good news, my 12/min heavy works, bad news, i'll be bankrupt soon

[rare cobalt]

was worried i couldnt do it cause i was using all 8 forges but i figured it out

[covert oak]

where do I find supply unit ?

[vital narwhal]

idk what this question is

[subtle finch]

im burning 723 sc battery per hour

[covert oak]

nvm I was asking where it was in the facility list but just found myself

[marble yarrow]

bro is all in

[vital narwhal]

.allin

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1487161512144408837/jr2xxrs.png?ex=69c82296&is=69c6d116&hm=f3d753f5f36591c36ee852d059da788a4d2bf7a68158e239f3c1b9e7a1830549&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=640&height=640

[small creek]

bro is more all in than me

theres LEVELS to ts

[marble yarrow]

bro said "wtf is SC"

[small creek]

WTF IS SC 🗣️

[marble yarrow]

bro said "imma use originium for 60 thermal banks"

[nova osprey]

what's an endfield

[marble yarrow]

no way 3000 power???

[vital narwhal]

still waiting on the test question answer

[small creek]

its ||220||

also the guy just disappeared 🥀

[frigid dirge]

what 220

[dry ledge]

Okay I have 1k power now onto purple battery’s right

How do I make em 💔

[small creek]

Nope you still have to make blue batteries

[dry ledge]

Aw man

[small creek]

Actually

the thing is, you have to make green batteries for a while

[marble yarrow]

what is sandleaf

[dry ledge]

Leaf made of sand

[shut hearth]

Man everything i do, u do better, that is a very compact table

[small creek]

If you make purple batteries immediately, you wont be able to upgrade your outposts

Make green first, then blue, then purple

[dry ledge]

Why

I don’t even get the difference

[small creek]

i just explained why

[dry ledge]

And idk what an outpost is or why I need to upgrade it

Nor what it does

[small creek]

Outpost good

all you need to know at this point in time

[dry ledge]

Can I have the blueprint for purple and green

[small creek]

I say more and itll complicate things

[dry ledge]

Cause I’m only using like 200 power

[small creek]

I just gave you blueprint for green and blue

[tall tangle]

i think i'm actually receiving psychic dmg while reading

[small creek]

And i dont even recommend you to make blue yet

[dry ledge]

Ok

[dry ledge]

I’ve been making

Blue

[small creek]

Okay and u cant sell them yet

cus outpost lvl too low

So stop making them for now

[jovial breach]

wtf...

bricked

[dry ledge]

I can’t find the green and purple

[dry ledge]

I’m making it for more power

[small creek]

Did u read the very first message i tagged u with

[small creek]

^

You didnt even answer my question..

[small creek]

And i purposely didnt give you purple blueprint because:

[shut hearth]

What is yall's favorite factory producable item?
I like cryston powder, it looks like sugar cubes

[dry ledge]

I don’t know

Think 220

Ohhh wait I thought it was in like green rarity

[faint monolith]

with the newest updates what is the best things to produce ? i am going ot do a full new factory because all my factories in wuling got too messy so i want to know what i should be making. i assume heavy xiranite and the new components are a must but whast like a simple checklist of things i want to be producing so i can work on setting those systems up

[marble yarrow]

cryston, which reminds me of fish bones

[rare cobalt]

goodbye xiranite hello gourds!

[small creek]

correct, and u can check that in the thermal bank

[tender thistle]

Origicrust is sand doritos

[vale topaz]

parts, multi color and have lots of function

[small creek]

So if you need more power, you need more thermal banks eating batteries

[marble yarrow]

the Heavy Xiranite Hoarding Society doesnt approve of this

[small creek]

Higher tier battery = more power, but you might not be able to sell it due to low outpost lvl

[dry ledge]

Ohh ok

Yes yes

Okay what now

[small creek]

Well youre making green now right

[rare cobalt]

its ONLY for the event, ill suffer the losses for now

[small creek]

Make enough green to level your outpost until you can sell blue

then switch to blue

[dry ledge]

How do I check my outpost

[small creek]

“Early game” is green
“Mid game” is blue

[dry ledge]

Doesn’t blue need the blue ore

[small creek]

Yea

[dry ledge]

I can already sell blues for stock bills

[small creek]

Well then thats great, just make blue then

[dry ledge]

One problem

I don’t have any blue ore thing

[small creek]

Go straight to mid game build

Then go deploy miner

[dry ledge]

Where

[small creek]

on blue ore

Map

Filter by ore spot

[dry ledge]

Wait don’t I need power to mine it

[small creek]

Yea

[faint monolith]

any recommendations folks?

[small creek]

Thats just more banks

[faint monolith]

what are the main resources you are all producing so i can make a checklist

[small creek]

Like you already learned

[small creek]

wuling?

[faint monolith]

yeah

I already have all my drills and all of the PACs unlocked and maxed out bTW

[dry ledge]

How do I get power

[faint monolith]

just want to do a fresh new factory becuase it got messy across all the updates

[vale topaz]

xiranite, basic wuling requirement.
hetonite parts if you want for comps or stockpile new tower contrcution material or sell.
hetonite comp for fang yi, no need to spam too much yet since gear upgrade can use other component as feed.
heavy xiranite for hetonite comp or sell.
with ferrium meta transfer for v4, can make yazhen c with 1 ferrium output.
sc battery for power and current best value for sell.
and current aic event production.

[small creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1498989902992506980/image.png?ex=69f32aa2&is=69f1d922&hm=02d1baf2322136aadff80b22bcb0bec8065607edd2110d71526a3e22d8cf04c9&

[small creek]

You already learned this

[dry ledge]

I did?

[small creek]

Yeah

you even said “yea yea”

like u understood it

[dry ledge]

Don’t I need a pylon

[small creek]

Yea

get the power from subpac to miner

[dry ledge]

What’s a subpac

[small creek]

Search arknights endfield subpac

[tender thistle]

When phase 2 start

[dry ledge]

But there’s like nothing near my mining spot

[small creek]

Its not in the mining spot

Its in your outpost

Yes your subpac is far from mining spot

You need a network of relay tower and pylon to connect subpac to miner

[subtle finch]

@marble yarrow have you adjusted the calculation for bill cap instead? i think lanturn got 116k jade as max

[shut hearth]

Assuming u are low on resources and want to let things run in background without hitting zero:
Go from 7 -> 8 sky forge making xiranite, all cuprium goes to making hetonite components (or a split between this and yazhen A), 60/min xircon, two sc battery farms, and i am forgetting something else... meta transfer dense originium and make the baby wuling battery on the side

This is adjusting for the event going on rn

[faint monolith]

which one is the batteries, sc battery ?

[shut hearth]

By sc battery i meant the one that uses xircon + dense ori

And by baby wuling battery i mean the one that uses xiranite + dense ori

[dry ledge]

So I have to connect

All that

For one ore

[scenic swift]

I still dont recommend it heavy xiranite will give more later so unless you are already full on it you shouldnt stop production for the event

[dry ledge]

Nvm I found a spot

[shut hearth]

It is not negligible tho, a difference of say 10 extra ore/min is a 14.4k difference in 1 day. So if u can connect a mining spot to ur aic, it's best to do it asap

[shadow void]

Stop. . . plz. Send me something other than 07.

i've got 12 atm from ppl

[shut hearth]

"Loliking"

[uneven aspen]

actually funny that's not a banned word

[shut hearth]

Tbf i have a guy whose username is "cl**oris"

[uneven aspen]

while you can't name a team endfield crisis team

cause crisis has isis

[shut hearth]

On my friends list

[shadow void]

I dont kick ppl that are active within atleast 2 days

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrow damn this is way harder than it looks

[tender thistle]

Jade goard uses 1:1 of heavy xiranite to hetonite

So would make sense to produce 12/m h. xiranite and hetonite split 10.5/m to hetonite parts

[shadow void]

I just went into wuling city and came out the main entrance

[shut hearth]

Cant name my avywenna team team 2 electric boogaloo

[shut hearth]

Sir ur cpu is literally about to boil

[keen river]

its fine, normal AMD things

[rare moon]

half way for part 1

[shadow void]

yellow parts the only ineffecient part, well that distance anyway

[storm garnet]

My amd doesn't go above 50s

[shut hearth]

Also are u feeding the sewage into the big pool?

[storm garnet]

You can't feed sewage

[shadow void]

Ive got a Manifold line, the X's, and 2 pipelines that are heading to Test Area

[shut hearth]

Where is the pipe goin?

[jovial breach]

it's getting worse...

[jovial breach]

to test area

[shut hearth]

HUH.

[keen river]

that looks like super roundabout way

[storm garnet]

I'll wait for the area to be unlocked before I do anything

[keen river]

isnt it better to chain the conduits anyway

[shadow void]

Yeah the cpu at 90c is pretty hot, mine both sit around 70, but i'm also on a laptop

[storm garnet]

The best way to do things might be different

[dry ledge]

@small creek bro my factory broke or smth cuz now it’s just idle for no reason

[shut hearth]

Conduits require no power right?

[keen river]

you probably only need like 2-3 intermediate statinos given that you can go pretty much straight line

[shadow void]

yeah no power needed

[small creek]

did u run out of ore

or power

try to learn how to troubleshoot

[storm garnet]

Or space

[shut hearth]

Then why is khangsaw using pipes still... are they close to the protocol limit?

[shadow void]

man they made a contest for good event BPs is wild

[dry ledge]

Oh okay now it’s working

But for some reason it won’t make blue ones

[shadow void]

like, the things are dead simple

[small creek]

blue what, batteries?

[shadow void]

Pipes and logistics are seperate from the building count that conduits and manifolds use

[vast iron]

Theres a combined limit but its not really an issue

[jovial breach]

alright im ready

[vast iron]

Very big number

[shadow void]

different from the 512 one? i know logistics is like 120?

[dry ledge]

Wait nvm it works when I complain

[small creek]

1152

[marble yarrow]

you can maximize length if you have a max length pipe between conduits (for fewer overall conduit)

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrow the reverse flow tech is really handy

[vast iron]

New tech?

[shadow void]

my wuling is tapping both the 512 build limit and the logistics limit

[shadow void]

you can reverse the flow of pipes

[jovial breach]

normally you cant really connect pipe from low to high

[vast iron]

Yeah thats a feature..?

[jovial breach]

but you can start from high, jump down then reverse the flow

[shadow void]

if you select a pipe section theres a button to do it near the top right of the window

[vast iron]

Ah thats pretty smart

[marble yarrow]

thats why i have acid coming from the top of mountain near main AIC

[vast iron]

I just dont drag pipes

[shut hearth]

Holy that's big brain, i only did that with transmission lines in v4

[uneven aspen]

what's the best way to stockpile hetonite and heavy xiranite while waiting for phase 2 and still buying out the outposts?

[vast iron]

Sell only gourd and battery ig

You can probably get away with hetonite, gourd and batteries

[uneven aspen]

yup that what i did in the image

not sure if there's better splits

[marble yarrow]

you want to accumulate for max bills just as phase 2 arrives

[jovial breach]

huh

why is my message red

[marble yarrow]

same

it didnt want to send lmaoo

[shadow void]

had the same problems a few times now

maybe be related to the crash the AKE discord and a few others had a day or 2 ago

[uneven aspen]

the big gaming discord servers died yesterday for a few minutes maybe they still having issues

[marble yarrow]

bro this. lmaooo

[shadow void]

I was having it before, could still be related

[marble yarrow]

thought i was banned

[shadow void]

Thought i was saying bad things

[vital narwhal]

banned for underground pipes goddamn

[subtle finch]

okay, it's doable with my battery stocks
just gotta make meds again to put me back into positive

[uneven aspen]

nah it's the discord server, im using a plugin that shows delays between sent and received every message has a delay for me.

so either we all have bad internet connection rn or the discord server is having issues

[marble yarrow]

fr

[subtle finch]

skill issue in discord?

[shadow void]

discord is having skill issues

[subtle finch]

what could i possibly do with my oris without xiranite

[marble yarrow]

bro is now calculating debt

[marble yarrow]

60 thermal bank

3000 power

[subtle finch]

im already using HCs

[shadow void]

120k sewage saved up. . . , wonder, should i transfer bottles over to V4?

[vast iron]

You did the math...?

[silent canyon]

Is there a way to stagger your mortars? I saw a clip where his mortars were firing one after another instead of them all firing every 8 seconds

[marble yarrow]

480 ori divide 7.5 😭

[vast iron]

8x60 is 480

Youre down 30

It should be 64

3200 power

[marble yarrow]

[jovial breach]

[marble yarrow]

pain in the ass for drastic elevation changes

[vast iron]

¿¿???¿?¿¿

Looks fun but
.. useful?

[vital narwhal]

save protocol limit

[jovial breach]

this is how

[vital narwhal]

altho idk if all-in-one possible anymore when 12forge hits because protocol prob just not enough

[jovial breach]

"pipe too steep" bruh

[subtle finch]

we were joking a while back about a reverse-all in one
we'll call it sleeper build where you're at max production with the main-aic completely empty

[vital narwhal]

that is definitely an interesting concept lol

[rare moon]

just need another outpost

[jovial breach]

wish there's more fluid only formula

so you can throw it outside aic

[marble yarrow]

12 forge + 60 cuprium

rip all in one

[vital narwhal]

yea it's cooked

[shadow void]

We gonna get the HC battery with Test Area?

[vital narwhal]

i don't think so

[jovial breach]

no info on that

[vital narwhal]

hc battery feels like next version thing

or version after that if no new outpost next version

[keen river]

i dont think we will get any new recipes in test area

probably 1.3's content

[green sleet]

I wonder what ungodly ammound of orig itll take to get max efficiency for the HC

[uneven aspen]

if we are still getting a 3rd outpost, im gonna assume we unlock it then

[jovial breach]

damn imagine hcw... 6.4k power

[wicked wigeon]

any ideas on how i can make this more compact?

[vital narwhal]

it should be five belt dense orig at most since packaging unit only has six inputs

[shadow void]

I'm just thinking about space, i'm already near max building limit in Main AIC and SkyKing is full, so extra ore and 4 forges going to be going probably in marker stone or some combo. seems tight

[subtle finch]

time to think outside the box

[shadow void]

"Modern problems require modern solutions."

[hard sail]

How

[shadow void]

that guy deffinetly didnt wanna be like everyone else

[cloud hearth]

yo guys is there a way to select a conveyor belt underneath a pipe from overhead view or do i have to go back into normal view/delete the pipe?

[shadow void]

probably not possible now, but there was some kind of no clip glitch and swaping operators in some way to gain elevation

[shadow void]

you can go into bp mode, drag select that and the pipe, and deselect the pipe to only be selecting the belt

[uneven aspen]

how much stagger we talking about?

There is a way to make them slightly come out one after the other

it's rotating some of them away

so some take a bit more time to rotate aim shoot

[shadow void]

ooh, good thing to know

[uneven aspen]

but it only changes the timing a tiny bit

[vital narwhal]

That only works the first time after you reload area right? or do they start rotated each time you trigger alluvium?

[cloud hearth]

what about to enter the interface of a depot unloader underneath a pipe to switch its output?

[uneven aspen]

yup

after 1 time they all aiming relatively the same again

[shadow void]

i dont know about that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silent canyon]

I wonder if I can set up a circle of deluge towers to clump up the enemies

[keen river]

is there even a point in staging the mortars

most of enemies spawn in groups anyway

[hardy tangle]

you can try setting them up at different distances

[cloud hearth]

ah well i guess i'll drop it in the next survey. thanks for the belt advice though i hadn't thought of that.

[silent canyon]

I find the mortars overkill the enemies instead of of saving up for the next wave

[hardy tangle]

as long there is not as much overlap, they will end up shooting at different-ish times

[vital narwhal]

the distance affects projectile travel time? was under impression mortar was unique case of it just plays anim of going into sky and one for hitting ground

[hardy tangle]

its not about projectile travel time per say, its about acquiring targets

if you cover all the area with all of them, they will eventually shoot same target, if you set some to cover certain areas that enemies dont exactly Spawn at but will walk towards

[vital narwhal]

like farther away = less angle change required to line up shot vibe?

[hardy tangle]

they will shoot as soon they (if survive previous, or previous is on cd) move into that small gap/area you leave

[vital narwhal]

oh you mean regional targeting hm ic

[hardy tangle]

so you can technically set up areas they focus on, tbh, not really needed xd

those mortars are a bit too op for current open-world

[vital narwhal]

yea I am curious about the future of turrets because mortars do seem overtuned

because right now the greatest aspiration for future turret is to be perfect cleanup companion for mortars

[shadow void]

Imagine if we had to defend our factory AICs

[mystic glen]

Does anyone happen to know how much of a defense reduction the acid tower provides?

[vital narwhal]

the fastest setups I see still have mixins of flamethrowers, but the setups are specific and not generalizable across alluviums

[uneven aspen]

yup the tower powercreep is a bit crazy

[shadow void]

like, constantly

[late zodiac]

I like OP towers like in the game's intro but it should probably have taken a little longer to build up to that

[uneven aspen]

that's because the flametowers attack constantly.

they also suck in valley agaisnt fire resistant enemies

[shadow void]

I want op gattling turrets

or just some beefy sounding ones that constantly fire

[pliant needle]

How many yazhen C syringes am I making per hour if all ferrium for them comes from a single production line (30/min)?

[uneven aspen]

you want 120/m for 100% effi so 30/120 times 6

[sick basin]

Math says 22%

[mystic glen]

cool, out of curiosity what was the source? Just ingame tests?

[pliant needle]

Nah I'm just getting rid of the remaining scraps, I need the other 2 lines for ferrium powder

[uneven aspen]

yeah so you're making syringe c with only 30/m of ferrium right?

so 30/120 times 6

[sick basin]

Normal mortar hit =16k
Mortar vs enemy with the reduction = 19.6k
19600÷(16000÷100)=122.5
So, 22.5%

[hardy tangle]

that would be 2/min

[pliant needle]

2 ferrium powder lines for xircon, 1 ferrium line for yazhen syringe C and half a line of ferrium powder for the new component (metastorage transfer covers it)

[pliant needle]

Thx

[hardy tangle]

that is dividing that one ouput with a splitter in 3 => for 1 : part 2 : bottle

[clear silo]

my aic factories have been redone

[uneven aspen]

1.5

[hardy tangle]

wait.. actually

yeah

[uneven aspen]

30/120 * 6 😔

[clear silo]

thank you again Raika

[hardy tangle]

i had the gourd recipe in mind instead xD

it will be a half half split between bottle and parts

[frozen thicket]

is anyone running into a problem where things that rely on sewage (im my case, xiron effluent -> xircon -> sc wuling battery) get jammed because the aic storage for anything cuprium related is full?
ive split up the cuprium part of the factory to produce bottles, powder, parts etc but still the same issue

[valid plank]

is 1 xirinite bottle production (3 xirinite input) enough? or do i need to redo more

[clear silo]

yeah, sometimes

i just like 3/4 the cuprium

delete ^

[frozen thicket]

how do you manually delete it

[clear silo]

ok so

are you on pc?

[valid plank]

im still making yahzen [A] so i dont have sewage issue if i just trade them away

[frozen thicket]

yeah

[clear silo]

press B

specficially when youre in an AIC area

[frozen thicket]

ah i found it

[clear silo]

there ya go

[frozen thicket]

thanks for the help

[clear silo]

np

[hardy tangle]

yeah thats more than enough to buy all the store and have some surplus of credits for next shop in 5-6 days

which should come with a new recipe to build, since we are currently not making the Jade version of the gourds, which ig should come at the last 3rd stage of the event

[subtle finch]

im officially out of debt

[pliant needle]

How much do the yazhen C syringe and XC battery sell for? Can't enter the game and check it for myself rn

[pulsar willow]

XC?

we only have LC and SC

[pliant needle]

SC

[subtle finch]

54 and 16

[pulsar willow]

SC is 54, yazhen C is 16

[pliant needle]

Darn, so 2 syringes still cost less than an extra battery

I'm just trying to optimise Kyostin's base without having a 10-minute period of zero dense og powder that leads to xircon slowly piling up in the inventory

So I removed those extra battery and xircon production lines entirely, the newly freed ferrium line I use to make 2 syringes per minute

But it looks like I'm losing about a third of outpost sales
Whatever, I have like 30k hetonite parts and 40k heavy xiranite, I'm good

Just as long I'm not having any extra trash piling up

[pulsar willow]

make a balancer?

[pliant needle]

who

[pulsar willow]

whoops

[pliant needle]

ah I get it

[brisk palm]

What the heck was that

[subtle finch]

how is sacrificing battery for syringes optimizing

[pulsar willow]

it was my brain malfunctioning at the morning

[pliant needle]

too much math to make an optimal use of 1,5k dense originium powder per hour, PLUS I'll have to also regulate the ferrium powder in a similar way to prevent xircon from overflowing

[pliant needle]

Doesn't fill my inventory up with 3 kinds of trash

[pulsar willow]

too much math
2nd grade of primary school level of calculations

[subtle finch]

i never heard xircon overflowing as a problem 😭

[brisk palm]

Having different item types is great when your gone for a while because if one maxes out, you have the other to keep going. You can also spread out your resources. But idk how syringes affects battery production as they use different items.

[pliant needle]

how would you place it mr einstein

[subtle finch]

you do you people 🙄

[cedar bay]

You're legally required to play daily though.

[pliant needle]

I can only get rid of 900 a day with delivery jobs, Kyostin's base makes 2400 of them every day

[shadow void]

Yeah, not xircon. I wouldnt even store xircon, i'd rather bottle the effluent

[pulsar willow]

was it supposed to be a reference to this meme

[shadow void]

what are the production numbers of Kyo's setup

[subtle finch]

why exactly are you making xircon, but not using all of them for battery?

[pliant needle]

There isn't enough dense og powder duh

[brisk palm]

The event has our number messed up: I'm curious what everyone's stock bill daily yield looks like. I managed to clear 2.6m yesterday but idk if thats good or what not.

[subtle finch]

that sounds like a skill issue, we all have enough dense ori for our xircon

[shadow void]

Mines messed up cuz i'm not selling all i can, but letting stockbills hover near max

[pulsar willow]

have less xircon produced then, or don't pile it into the depot

[shadow void]

I'm rolling in it so much i'm making packed cubes with it

[shut hearth]

i think they are producing 12/min already, but turning the xircon effluent from the purification station of the 60/min xircon line that normally fed into heavy xiranite into another reactor for 75/min xircon

[pliant needle]

13-13,25 batteries per minute

[pliant needle]

Those 1-1,25 extra are what I'm breaking my brains over

[pulsar willow]

ok mate sorry if I was rude in any way to you, I wish you to finally get the job done and be happy with it

JOB AWAITS

[shadow void]

making 6/m Hvy, and 4.5 Hetanite (ore)

[subtle finch]

oh is that what kyostin is doing? why tf would you make extra xircon that you can't sell/use instead of heavy

[pliant needle]

don't say skill issue if you don't actually have any sort of a solution maybe

[shadow void]

If you are going to bank something, i'd bank the effluent since it can go into batteries or hvy

[pulsar willow]

I think he is trying to overoptimize on top of kyostin's base

[shut hearth]

is it possible to have 6/min gourd + 12/min SC battery + 6/min heavy?

[pliant needle]

Exactly why I'm trying to not have that extra xircon and get it out if the equation

[pulsar willow]

you do you

[brisk palm]

Whats wrong with extra?

[subtle finch]

i checked kyostin is at 13.25sc, im guessing you forgot to do dense ori metatransfer?

[shadow void]

too much probably backs up the system, and he said he can't use it cuz no dense ori

[pliant needle]

No I counted it

[brisk palm]

If you have extra, let it build up and then toggle a expansion as needed.

[pulsar willow]

I have a question

[pliant needle]

He even acknowledges this at the end of his next vid about the .1 patch

[pulsar willow]

do you make xiranite comps

[subtle finch]

if you're at 13.25 sc, then there should be no extra xircon in the system

[shadow void]

transfer the Xircon to V4?

[pliant needle]

yeag

[shadow void]

how long does it take to build up, whats your excess look like?

[pliant needle]

Still producing it too fast, already tired it today

[subtle finch]

so that's why the dude have dense ori deficit 😭

[pliant needle]

Oh wait you mean like rn

No I don't

[shadow void]

are you producing 6/m Hvy Xiranite?

[pliant needle]

No, only hetonite components

[pulsar willow]

to make heto comps you need heavy xira

[shut hearth]

wait how much xircon is kyo producing here? what are his forges doing

[shadow void]

remove the thing making xircon and put the Xircon Effluent into a forge making Hvy

[pliant needle]

And by components I mean parts

Mixed it up here

Gah why won't discord load images on mobile, I can't even share how I modified kyo's base

Way harder to describe the deal without an image in mind

[nova pilot]

Thoughts please

[keen river]

you dont need that many unloaders but 👍

[shadow void]

assuming thats for Jade Gourds, why does he have too many unloaders

[keen river]

jade gourds recipes are 10 or 20 seconds

instead of usual 2

[shadow void]

mmm

[keen river]

you could run 10 moulders from 1 unloader

[nova pilot]

Oh right

[subtle finch]

i need to catch up with people's heavy stash

[keen river]

my stash is crap but it doesnt matter all that much

but the time event drops in 6 days it will be full anyway

[last ledge]

Is everything okay with me? -_-

[shadow void]

guess if you built it mirrored and split it to another setup

[subtle finch]

you need like 116k to maximize phase 2

[keen river]

my plan is to buy out first store and then just delete all gourds and switch to heavy xira

[shadow void]

my hvy will cap around Phase 2 start

ugh, i wish i could export from Enkad

[pulsar cypress]

[subtle finch]

my homeless production

[faint monolith]

can you power the reactor crucible that makes liquid xirinate with the sewage that comes out from the xircon production?

[subtle finch]

liquid xiranite doesn't require sewage
the answer is usually no, unless you're thinking about passthrough

[faint monolith]

sorry xircon effluent

[jolly shore]

my hetonite will cap across both areas but not my heavy since I was filling bottls with the stuff

[subtle finch]

yes you can use its own produced sewage, no need to take it out

[faint monolith]

sorry what do you mean no need to take it out dont you need to pipe it from one reactor crucible to the other?

[subtle finch]

here's an example making 30/min of xircon

or here for 60/min of xircon

the reactor with xircon symbol is producing 30 sewage/min, so it also produces 30/min of effluent, then the other reactor assists by giving it 30/min of effluent to produce xircon at max efficiency

[shut hearth]

god damn that's clean

[subtle finch]

it can go smaller, but this is prone to clogging if you start it with too much water buildup

[shut hearth]

this is round-robin switching the effluent w/ water?

[faint monolith]

what do you do with the inert effluent in this diagram

[subtle finch]

you can make it to heavy like this

[subtle finch]

yes

@pulsar willow 's layout is actually better because it includes the ferrium shredder/refiner 😭

[storm garnet]

wut

[shadow void]

I didnt wanna ask, but i ran outta facilites to place, trying recreate a more compact setup. Does anyone have a 22.5 Hetonite BP

[shadow void]

just ran into that problem

[storm garnet]

did i get like 10 extra buildings overnight?

[subtle finch]

#1494628329851064402 message
you can gut this down to your needs

[storm garnet]

518 wtf

[subtle finch]

i have it setup like this for example, 1.25sc on the left

[shadow void]

Thx, my setups a bit messy

[nova pilot]

Love the sewage bottles on the side XD

[shadow void]

Test Area prep

[storm garnet]

ah, great, i can't remake a belt i just deleted cause of this buggy limit

[shadow void]

probably gonna be completly pointless, but maybe not ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm garnet]

let's hope relogging works

[subtle finch]

i think they designed the purification node to be sustained, so you can't even use the excess sewage
but maybe im wrong

[storm garnet]

nope

[shadow void]

They mentioned that it'll keep consuming sewage even if the effluent out clogs

[jolly shore]

this is nice, I might go for something like this if we still need similar structures during the next update. I don't quite see where the sewage is going from the xircon crucible unless you can divert it within the expanded one

[nova pilot]

Does shared buildings from other players count? Ig it won't hurt to try removing them

[subtle finch]

so you're just saving treatment unit power by bottling, i hope you are using pwm

[faint monolith]

sorry fi this is dumb but like where is that sewage from the outlet coming from i just have to bring it in from somewhere else basically for it to work?

[subtle finch]

it uses its own sewage, because it produces liquid xiranite too

[subtle finch]

just from 1 cuprium refining unit, you can pipe it directly if you want

[storm garnet]

no, they don't

you can even accept manually shared ones

i recently got an extra -20 to the limit by deleting the plots i forgot in the farm, but it's like today they magically came back into the limit

[shadow void]

wish blueprint posts you follow acted like pins

[storm garnet]

this is definitively a bug after a patch or something, it just doesn't make sense to go above the limit with 6 extra buildings without doing anything

maybe it has something to do with the event, but even then it's too many, i only have 4 buildings doing event things in wuling city

[jolly shore]

I'll have to experiment with it sometime. I don't really need the space in my current setup but it's visually appealing and does save some power

[storm garnet]

making new belts at 512 works fine now, just not above it, which was weird too

[nova pilot]

@shadow void I managed to fit 2 more

[green sleet]

Wait. We have a limit for belts? Is it the same for pipes?

[shadow void]

yeah

[nova pilot]

From this

[shadow void]

and logistics, and buildings, and an overall combined

[nova pilot]

To this

[green sleet]

Damn that sucks... No more belt snakes i guess

[shadow void]

Nice, and all in an outpost too?

[nova pilot]

Yupp Marker Stone

[storm garnet]

there is a limit for buildings, for pipes, and total. belts only count for total, normally

but for some reason, the bug i got also made them count for the building limit

[keen river]

there is definitely something weird going on

even my outpost hits the limit

[green sleet]

I see. Thats understandable

[keen river]

im not even sure what it counts

[shadow void]

man you got me lamenting pulling acid into main aic

[keen river]

but there is barely any piping in this outpost too

[storm garnet]

the bug is still technically there even if i'm at 512 or below, cause i should have more possible buildings before hitting the cap

[storm garnet]

for pipes, every pipe segment counts, and also splitters, convergers, bridges and control units

the best thing to do with pipes is to put splitters/etc right next to buildings

[keen river]

i can place those tho

[storm garnet]

so you don't get an extra pipe segment to connect them

[green sleet]

So itd be better to spam underground pipes for the time being?

[storm garnet]

weird

conduits are buildings

[keen river]

it is possible that this base hits 96 pipe segments but eeh

it shouldnt be that much

[storm garnet]

you normally want pipes before buildings

[shadow void]

does having a 100% Hetonite setup cause any issues, assuming you turn off the extra machines

[keen river]

i think it hits like 60-70 pipes 🤔

[storm garnet]

it counts all the pipes in the zone

same with buildings, it counts relays, ziplines, etc

[keen river]

weird thing

i have no idea who thought such strict limits are a good idea

[storm garnet]

someone worried about the servers and/or clients

someone too worried i should say

[gentle sentinel]

I counted mine exactly 96 pipes

[shadow void]

I'm stressing out, just by looking at the factory i know i need to tear down and replace

[storm garnet]

funny thing is the v4 total limit is so low you hit that before anything else

[keen river]

yeah

all those limits should be at least twice as high

its absolutely ridiculous

[storm garnet]

it's 768 i think. at first i thought it was the building limit and was upset it was a better one than wuling lol

but the equivalent is like 1.1k limit on wuling

[keen river]

yeah, its 256 * 3 for valley 4 hub

it counts buildings and belt tthingies

but for outtposts is only 256 -.-

[storm garnet]

i hit 256 on the first outpost a few times

[gentle sentinel]

Other than Valley Pass it's 512 no?

[keen river]

i think its 256 in all three

[storm garnet]

park has the farm, it might be more

[pulsar willow]

Huh I made my 2 buck 3 batts in V4 without having any issues...

[storm garnet]

if it's just classic recipes, it won't use many belt segment prob, it's when you make many different things that you reach it

also, trying to avoid offline bug with extra segments

[keen river]

valley 4 also has 1100something limit on belt pieces if i recall

[storm garnet]

yep

[pulsar willow]

I think the most consuming thing is a belt bridge lol

[keen river]

but is bit harder to hit that one

[gentle sentinel]

Huh 288

[storm garnet]

no, wait, 1k limit is for wuling

768 of hub counts belts

is a total limit type

[storm garnet]

weird number

[pulsar willow]

What

[split portal]

how can i deal with cuprium clog in xircon effluent production?

[dreamy jungle]

i need these numbers listed somewhere in game like a counter, so i can keep track of them

[storm garnet]

belt bridge is just like a building, +1 to building limit

i wish belt thingies counted like belts

would make my life so much easier

[keen river]

you could do so much more optimal stuff if belt bridges didnt count

but anything smarter just hits the limit instantly

[storm garnet]

that's why pipes are op, no building limit

[vital narwhal]

Make hetonite to consume cuprium

[keen river]

except you can only have 96 of them 😅

i have saved some limit by making more cpu intensive factory

great success 😔

[narrow garden]

can someone sanity check my math?
8 gourd per minute
13 d left for event
18720 minutes left of event

= 149 760 gourd before end of event = i get trim safely??
this seems off other peoples estimates seem way higher

[storm garnet]

i never had problems with pipe limits as long as i didn't put a lot of tanks that need pipes in between

but i'm always mindful of pipe segments and try to optimize them

i don't want to get surprised by the limit cause i was lazy

[pulsar willow]

Yeah and I would like to spam them, but I can't sadly, because instead of 4 belt bridges I can place an LC battery crafter with all loaders and unloaders...

[storm garnet]

time to use the outposts more

[pulsar willow]

Tangtown is still empty

Marker stone is filled because event

[keen river]

also

it seem that splitters dont actually maintain the 2/s fluid performance

that is quite unfortunate

[storm garnet]

my soup post is filled with dense ori and 2 xira lines

[pulsar willow]

Never had an issue with that?

[storm garnet]

all my xira lines take a lot of space cause i have them made with 0 offline bug possibilities

[vital narwhal]

Could be chance facility/ pipe limit rises in future version, but could also be wishful thinking

[pulsar willow]

Why do you think they don't maintain 2/s?

[keen river]

i have priority splitter like this

[storm garnet]

fluids usually work ok always, maybe you are having problems with solids somewhere

[keen river]

added the tanks just now

[vital narwhal]

Pipe splitters thrice in series can be buggy

[keen river]

the right side is full

[storm garnet]

offline belt bug affects everything after all

[keen river]

and now the top tank fills

and bottom tank is empty

so this fails to maintain the 2/s

[uneven aspen]

i wonder how they simulate our factories when we go offline. Likely depends on if game servers can handle more or not

could be as a liveservice they are holding back too

[vital narwhal]

In my 7 forge outpost, had to redesign conduit output because triple series splitters choked two forges, even online with prefill

[keen river]

they likely dont simulate them at all, there is no reason to

[storm garnet]

splitter prioritizes the output with a pipe

[keen river]

they only need to catch up the factory once you login

no need to constantly simulate it

[thin grotto]

It was fun building a theoretical 12/min heavy xiranite, but would not recommend lol. Im guessing for the 2nd Part and the 4 forges we'll be running 3 lines xiranite+ 1 heavy xiranite (with the purification outpost thingy) with a surplus of 30 xir/min

[keen river]

all of them have pipe output tho

[keen river]

and with side full, they should push all fluids to empty pipe

but it doesnt happen

[storm garnet]

not the one going to the tank below

[uneven aspen]

that doesn't explain how rate limited belts break when going offline. or priority changing when going offline for them

there's some simulation going on

[nova pilot]

Nothing so far, turning the other 2 Cuprium solution sets gives 30/m Hetonite and just slowly depletes Cuprium then you'll notice that the Purification Units go Zzz so I think the adtl sewage can be treated normally

[keen river]

nah, the tank is incosequential, it happens without it

i can even do this and its same thing

[storm garnet]

just throwing ideas

[keen river]

top has 4 refiners so its 2/s 🤔

[rare moon]

its all numbers, the factory is just a visual representation

[storm garnet]

well, if i learned something from satisfactory is to never use full pipes

it has to be that then

but still, not a single drop on the tank is weird

is the tank going somewhere?

[keen river]

moved the priority thing aside and now it works

wtf

so clearly some bug with that assembly on left

[tepid wigeon]

Which tank? If the input is less than the output max speed the tank will never store anything. That's the issue I had with a 1/4th speed crucible trying to manage extra sewage it produced

[gentle sentinel]

Tried it, mine is working fine

[storm garnet]

put a converger in the middle too and check it again

[keen river]

even this is enough to break it

wf

without the merger it seem to work

[tall tangle]

found that guy on the streets. probably one of those with xircon problem

[shadow void]

Thats me right now looking at my spaghetti

[storm garnet]

i meant an extra converger, before the other one

[final sierra]

uuuuh :(

[storm garnet]

delete farm

[gentle sentinel]

Ooh loves the pipe

[tepid wigeon]

What's the part below the tank look like

[storm garnet]

and cry cause maybe it's a bug

[shadow void]

found the problem

[keen river]

this works

[storm garnet]

not a problem, art is art

[keen river]

but if i connect the bottom spliter to the merger on right it breaks

[storm garnet]

well, with that might as well drop the splitter below

[keen river]

its just a treatment assembly

[final sierra]

yea :)

[shadow void]

well the art is cauzing the 512/512

[storm garnet]

art is above all

[keen river]

and other side is canibalized xircon assembly which is why its backed up

[storm garnet]

no limit should be impossed on art

[gentle sentinel]

What's with the triangular bridges though?

[shadow void]

need to walk away, i'm stressing out

[rare moon]

this is lying to me. nothings actually going through it

[final sierra]

yes, but thats sad, that place is splitter testing area

[keen river]

such a weird bug huh

i suppose nobody else can reproduce it?

[gentle sentinel]

Not in my case, but if I change server-It's a guarantee

[keen river]

hmm

[rugged gulch]

Its not lying. Its saying sewing is coming in, but none is going out.

[final sierra]

to put water from Purification unit back in tubes

[keen river]

i think it might be something fishy with whole assembly 🤔

[shadow void]

Is it bad when you know you should tear something down, and even tho you have a replacement, you don't want to.

[keen river]

this works

[storm garnet]

i think the problem is that the converger is taking turns with each input, but one of the inputs is slower

but each input is given the same amount of time

[keen river]

hmmmmmmmm