aic-factory

[small creek]

what

there is nothing else to make batteries with

[bronze vector]

embrace HCV

ur xiranite is gone

[worldly pivot]

uhmm. there should be enough ores to yield 18 batteries/hr. but currently youre making 13 since your production facility bottlenecks the by the large use of xiranite.

[small creek]

there isnt lmao

theres only enough to make 12

1 6/min is 240 orig

we have 480 orig

the only reason i make 13.25 is because of metatransfer dense orig

[worldly pivot]

oh yeah youre right. sorry.

[small creek]

all g

math maths sometimes

[meager stream]

playing endfield for battle/gameplay ❌, for factory & mathing ✅

[nova osprey]

as it should

[edgy geyser]

is the limit on hetonite 90/m?

[real python]

what is the website for getting pwm/battery blueprints ?

[static isle]

do yall bother doing PWM with HCV in Wuling or just burn straight

[static isle]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[nova osprey]

22/min?

[small creek]

22,5

[nova osprey]

22.5 yeah

[small creek]

i burn straight 1scw + 1 hcv

[static isle]

I'm burning 1 SCW + 2 HCV

[small creek]

if youre really efficient, no need for pwm this patch

[graceful wraith]

Damn how do u have enough power

[static isle]

4.63k power

[nova osprey]

imagine using pwm

[graceful wraith]

How much are u using

[deft orbit]

"This facility cannon't extract this fuild"

xDDDD

[edgy geyser]

wait ima dumbass, i converted it wrong

[graceful wraith]

I'm using 5.5k rn

[static isle]

you need the acid pump

[small creek]

and then this is my prod, still max

[nova osprey]

why is there 11 in there lmao

[deft orbit]

look again, it IS extracting xD

[deft orbit]

because it is extracting xD

[nova osprey]

bruh moment xD

[deft orbit]

the Extractor was there before the fluid, so the game interpets it as "I can extract"

and it extracts it xD

even tho it's a MK1 extractor, not an MK2

[bright zodiac]

mk2 description is, its specifically made so it can withstand and transfer acid

mk1 cheating and now edtract acid be like

[meager stream]

acid resistant pump pls

[deft orbit]

look again mate, it IS extracting xD

[small creek]

this tech will save 10 power per pump

how broken

[worldly pivot]

hm xircon effluent is needed to sustain 6 batteries? and how much effluent can it produce?

[deft orbit]

only works on pools where the extractor was before the acid. doesn't work on acid pools itself

[vale topaz]

..... guess i'll just max cuprium dust and almost max refined cuprium to prepare full hetonite line for 2nd half of this event.
as backup.

[small creek]

absolute wilted rose

[ancient charm]

how do I make a pwm for 24/min

[bright zodiac]

obviously

so the option is 40k pool
now the issue is the application is gonna be messy

[edgy geyser]

be like me, 12/m gourd rn

[meager stream]

i used 3 scw 🔥

[nova osprey]

60 effluent, or if feeding into purifier, 48

[subtle finch]

someone made a compact 8/min gourd earlier
here's a 9/min if you need it

[worldly pivot]

60 needed for batteries but can recycle 48 right?

[nova osprey]

why do you need 10.1k power

[nova osprey]

yes

[meager stream]

but dont worry, cuz of scw producing 12/m xD

[small creek]

I made compact 1.3/min but idk if anyone needs it lmao

[ebon tinsel]

Why do you need so much power

[meager stream]

9.800 limit

[bright zodiac]

typical endmin that power tower with pylon

[worldly pivot]

by this math, we can free up 90/m xiranite through recycling, is that right?

[vale topaz]

👀

i'll stay at 8

[meager stream]

yaa, had many turrets, forgesky, reactors, water treatment, etc. Also freeing space for the next sub pac

[small creek]

just 30

[nova osprey]

for 6/min?

sc

[worldly pivot]

assuming 12 batteries

[bright zodiac]

reminder that LC v4 battery can sustain your whole farming for full year, i can almost guarantee you

[nova osprey]

put your turrets on batteries

[nova osprey]

frees up 24/min xira for 12 batteries

[small creek]

12/min scw produces enough inert xir effl (purified to xir effl) for another 3/min scw or 6/min hxira

[meager stream]

so i can enjoy severe alluvium, relaxing & done under 1 min xD

[small creek]

Or u can just put it back in the 4 reactors for 12/min to reduce xiranite usage

either way, u can only save 30/min xiranite this way

[nova osprey]

I don't think you understand

[acoustic grove]

Is the "expanded crucible" any good if I want 100% efficiency on Xircon?

[small creek]

less space and power so yea

[meager stream]

umm currently mine at 7.5k/9.8k

[bright zodiac]

it saves you water treatment and less crucible

[edgy geyser]

be like me, dont use zipline

[ebon tinsel]

Now that's just abominable

[worldly pivot]

but the deliveries 🥲

[meager stream]

help delivering goods without using TP xD

[edgy geyser]

hey, it only cost your patiance and sanity

[ebon tinsel]

Do it manually

[minor ravine]

man i really wish you could flip stuff like reactor crucibles

[edgy geyser]

and it saves battery

[minor ravine]

would make building the factory so much easier

[ebon tinsel]

Takes like 2-4 minutes more

[bright zodiac]

until some random thug on the street shoot an arrow to you

[nova osprey]

one sc battery from wuling is enough to power a turret for like 120 or so clears of an alluvium

a stack will last you over 6000 runs, instead of using a stack every hour just use a stack once a year

[bright zodiac]

[bright zodiac]

bruhhhhhh

[worldly pivot]

i'd rather teleport and lose efficiency than walk 3x from end to end.

[edgy geyser]

it only takes a bit more

[bright zodiac]

🤦

[subtle finch]

what are these solutions

[static isle]

how are you under 4.5k with the new stuff
you have to stop heavy xira so that alone is 4 water treatment

[small creek]

who said i stopped heavy xira

[bright zodiac]

ive mentioned that LC v4 battery suffice 1-12 years of alluvium farming

and now you use SC wuling battery? you probably die first before the battery die

sry for being sarcasm

[static isle]

oh you're just burning stash?

[small creek]

nope

[ebon tinsel]

Too much AiC for today, time to take arrest

[worldly pivot]

recycling xircon

[ancient charm]

[nova osprey]

lmaoo, for me I've been using sc ones for exp farming

[unreal laurel]

What time does the game dailies reset?

[static isle]

yikes

[small creek]

1.3/min gourd to precisely use the 20/min leftover

[vale bramble]

im way too impatient to wait for the aic event

[unreal laurel]

What time do the dailies reset?

[subtle finch]

would that even clear the shop before the next phase

[small creek]

1.3/min isnt enough to clear shop but im banking on the next phase having better items to sell

[small creek]

you need 4.2/min to clear in 1 week

so mine doesnt even clear in the 2 weeks we have'

[edgy geyser]

cmon, be like me. 12/min

[small creek]

im really banking on 2nd phase

[static isle]

what do yall sell for depot anyway

[small creek]

Amiya, pack your bags, ive gambled away the landship

[edgy geyser]

xiranite

[ancient charm]

how do you adjust belt to 24/min? or its just not doable?

[edgy geyser]

or yazhen syringe

[small creek]

25/min is easily doable

idk why u need 24 though

[ancient charm]

cos I have 24/min xiranite leftover I want to use for more gourds

[verbal garnet]

Goodbye heavy xiranite

[small creek]

just do 25 and eat the deficit

i bet youre making lcw

[uncut briar]

you sure its 24/m ? does the graph spike? like 24 then 30 or smthg

[pulsar cypress]

🏳️

[small creek]

well i bet wrong
amiya pack your bags i gambled away the landship

[edgy geyser]

just turn it off and on from time to time

[subtle finch]

im perfectly happy with these rates so far
my 10k xiranite will take over 1 week to drain
and the huge surplus lets me hoard batteries or cuprium parts/comp easily

[ancient charm]

I tuned it for 25/min rn and its sitting at 241/min total usage

[subtle finch]

the only con is i cant stock up heavy rn

[ancient charm]

who needs heavy

[subtle finch]

jade gourd does

[wispy wren]

Does anyone know when the event dropping on NA?

[worldly pivot]

i guess this should be fine for now

[ancient charm]

partially why I set up item control ports so that I dont overproduce on gourds

after I clear out I'll convert back to making heavy xiranite

[uncut briar]

u have 1 forge unused

[small creek]

yea thats what happens when u do 9/min gourds

[meager stream]

used for 2nd exchange event aic, prepare for heavy xira + hetonite

[uncut briar]

every minute, you missed 30/m xiranite

[marble yarrow]

just finish your gourds faster so you go back to heavy the earlier

[subtle finch]

have you compared raw mats price of jade vs normal gourd?

[small creek]

or... stock up on hxira now so u can do 12/min heavy gourd (instead of 6/min) once it drops :ya:

[wispy wren]

How many you need to clear phase 1 shop?

[worldly pivot]

yeah turned off the heavy xiranite production. i could convert it for another xiranite but will be of no use.

[marble yarrow]

i saw one saying jade gourd is 120 bills, but im not yet into thinking about it

[subtle finch]

qyurii's strat might be better if gourd's price to cost ratio is worse

[small creek]

Either way we'll need to make 20k jade gourd for the trim medal

[uncut briar]

everyone else starving for xiranite

meanwhile

[nova osprey]

120 seems awfully high, i highly doubt it

but then again idk

[small creek]

Honestly cant wait to see whos right 1 wk from now

[nova osprey]

all speculation

[glossy nymph]

I mean i also thought the same thing.

[small creek]

Its always us for some reason

[tribal crescent]

This may be a dumb question

[jolly shore]

event starts in 20m right?

[glossy nymph]

Could work if you have enough battery stocked

[nova osprey]

yes

[tribal crescent]

But any bottle works for the sprayer right

[worldly pivot]

they are because their production output requires a lot xiranite. meanwhile, i think this should cover all stockbills and a week for the event. im not sure.

[tribal crescent]

Only the liquid is important

[uncut briar]

meanwhile that person refuse to use the 8th unused sky forge

[subtle finch]

you're still losing certs now that you can't gain later, so it's hard to compare until the very end

[marble yarrow]

from someone here (might be spoiler for some so be warned)

[small creek]

I gain later by doubling jade gourd prod on 2nd week

Though yes i lose on 1st week

[subtle finch]

actually, lemme compare efficiency now, shouldnt be that hard

[small creek]

Ping me when ur done pls, ill go to sleep

[nova osprey]

[acoustic grove]

any tips on how to make a 100% efficient "Xircon" factory with the new "Expanded Cruidible"? (I've been struggling to wrap my head around it)

[tribal crescent]

J*de gourd

[worldly pivot]

i could use the extra xiranite but how i set up my factory is very modular. i dont like seeing a spaghetti mess.

[tribal crescent]

You should def use the extra xira for gourd

[uncut briar]

i have modular xiranite, with 1 tap, it appears and works

[spark hedge]

@acoustic grove

[subtle finch]

@small creek @marble yarrow yeah, it's not even close, jade wins by a landslide

[tribal crescent]

Eh

I mean

What

19/15

[worldly pivot]

same. but you cant have a modular battery production or gourd production with only 1 source of xiranite and without affecting your other production modules.

[tribal crescent]

Vs 3x

Not even close

[cunning obsidian]

so stockpile and make jade?

[nova osprey]

[worldly pivot]

let me know if you could im open to copying blueprints.

[subtle finch]

yes

patience wins i guess

[tribal crescent]

Wait hol up

Where you get the jade gourd

Is this announced or sth

[nova osprey]

that's off of someone elses info, might be a leak idk

[tribal crescent]

Fitting emote

[cobalt oriole]

Anyone has a calc excel for bill generation weekly I need to convince a guy

They keep saying the 300k is difficult

To buy when it isnt

[nova osprey]

300k is doable but just barely iirc, if you aren't doing 4x deliveries (transferring counts as 1)

but it doable, I've been doing it weekly

[ancient charm]

is 9SC/min enough to cover stock bills regen?

[subtle finch]

my calc is only for aic production, i need average for env mon, depot node and elastic goods to find the overall profit

[nova osprey]

only 9 sc and nothing else? don't think so

[ancient charm]

with xiranite gourd?

8/min

or is it 7

cant tell

i think its 8

[subtle finch]

im about to set my pwm too, now i need to go back to heavy

[real python]

can sleep now

[nova osprey]

yes you'll clear the shop

[warm brook]

can someone show me what optimal production of the current update looks like?

[whole terrace]

we should have AIC building that do create drones and sends them to collect resources, then we would have to pick them.

[subtle finch]

lots of margin for excess with the event, but its more profitable if you hoard heavy now, and sell jade gourds later

[keen river]

long we have waited -.-

[storm garnet]

IT'S EU TIME

[warm brook]

what do you mean by hoarding heavy

im completely clueless

[muted tartan]

how many conduit you need for one xiranite production? i have one and its not optimally flowing water

[worldly pivot]

we need a logistics control to dump or treat excess fluids. or is there a work around?

[subtle finch]

jade goard will be craftable and sellable at the 2nd phase of the event, they give more profit for the xiranite costs, and they require heavy xiranite to make

[keen river]

minor lore drop for the 1.3 i guess

[vast iron]

Is NA out yet

[rare moon]

[keen river]

ok, it started without manual intervention

[slate plume]

if anybody needs a blueprint for the event and marker stone map: EFO0172UA3844i539O0Ai (EU/NA)

[cunning obsidian]

mine didn't

[rare moon]

i should make another line

[meager stream]

1 hour will consume more than 5k xira, i guess

[cobalt oriole]

Yo guys whats new outpost bills again?

[warm brook]

oh i see its better to just hold alot of heavy xiranite i see thank you '

[subtle finch]

yeah, it's a game of patience

[meager stream]

need heavy xira & hetonite stocks

[warm brook]

hetonite part or hetonite comp??

[ornate crescent]

Hi ppl been a long time since I last chatted here

[meager stream]

raw hetonite, no need until fitting unit

[ornate crescent]

I have a problem with Hetonite Components

[rare moon]

would the bp keep the image so i could keep it as souvenir

[warm brook]

oh ok leme stock it up

[ornate crescent]

I followed xlice video on how to make them but It seems like k made a mistake

[meager stream]

2 hetonite part & 2 heavy xira

[ornate crescent]

It's all obstructed bruh.

[ornate crescent]

Ik that

[keen river]

hmmmm

so i guess there is a hard cap for how many tokens its worth to produce

[cobalt oriole]

Total weekly bill generation estimate (New)
10,059,033 from outpost (38976 + 10920 hourly)
2,660,000 from environment (3.5 per week)
994,000 from your delivery (Best option of 142k)
3,062,500 from elastic (3.5k profit per item)
= 16,775,533 bills per week

• 2,499,000 for extra delivery (3 x 119k)
  = 19,274,533 bills per week

[ornate crescent]

Seems like I don't have enough xyranite liquid

[keen river]

since none of this seem to be refreshable

[cunning obsidian]

whats needing liquid xiran?

and whats the recipe for jade gourds?

[keen river]

just xiranite into moulding and fitting units and then results into packaging unit

super simple

[subtle finch]

i guess i didn't factor hetonite cost, but 1 heto : 1 heavy isn't a big deal i think
you'll run out of heavy before hetonite

[warm brook]

if say we are storing raw het and heavy xir what is their expected output

[meager stream]

Need to boost your production xD
for example, 8 cuprium powder 7 crucible 1 expanded 1 purification (become 2 hetonite outputs, combine them into fitting, 6/m) & 4 forgesky 2 crucible 1 purification (6/m). So it can produce heto component 6/m

[subtle finch]

it's only 1/5th the cost of heto part

[ornate crescent]

It was working before though

I followed Xlice video to the letter too

[cunning obsidian]

i'm after the recipe for the week two one

[marble yarrow]

10,059,033 from outpost (38976 + 10920 hourly)

math is wrong idk
dont u need to multiply this also by 1.2 (20% operator trade bonus) so outpost is 1,437,004

[subtle finch]

@small creek i actually need that 1.33 now lol

[jolly shore]

Hm, so if we're gaining about 50k bills per hour, and gourds are 40, requiring 15 xiranite each, it seems like a way better deal bill wise than our current recipes

[storm garnet]

looks fine so far

[cobalt oriole]

I also did mult the 1.2 from sell skill and that number is directly from the outpost display, which accounts for the generation bonuses

[keen river]

they gourds are way too cheap to exhaust the outpost production tho

[storm garnet]

but 25 power i need to reduce somewhere

[cobalt oriole]

My number should be correct

[rapid hedge]

Finally it's on

[keen river]

if my math is right, you only can mak 38 400 stocks from selling gouds using all available xiranite

[ornate crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqFx7ZLJkj0

[keen river]

and tangtang alone produces 39k

[marble yarrow]

this number is just bill generation. actual trade = x1.2

[warm brook]

how, can i have ur setup

[ornate crescent]

This was the video
I followed everything to the letter:/

[vale bramble]

is one packing machine running xiranite gourds well over enough or do i add a second one

[cobalt oriole]

I did count that. 49,896 x 1.2 x 24 x 7 = 10,059,033

[meager stream]

xira yield 210/m usage 1601/m, i guess dat xira stocks will be empty within 1-3 hours only

[warm brook]

do you make yazhin a?

[rapid hedge]

nope
all my ores are used already

[keen river]

🤔

i guess we need to go back to producing syringes C or we will go bankrupt

[rapid hedge]

ok it's stable now
race to zero within an hour

[marble yarrow]

you only go bankrupt in you dont actually sell

[keen river]

no i mean

throwing all possible xiranite into gourds

only seem to produce 75% of coins we need

[warm brook]

how do you evewn make 15 sc per min what

[rapid hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[warm brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1380157309937782975/1480175271188365344/dccon_6.gif

[jolly shore]

to clear hourly bills off gourds alone you need 18711 xiranite per hour, and each forge can generate 1800, so you'd need about 10.5 forges. You still make yaz A and yaz C to supplement I guess

[warm brook]

tell me the magic

[rapid hedge]

I can turn it into 24 if I want with those excess xircon production

[keen river]

yeah

[jolly shore]

but honestly do we really need to drail all the bills? I'm already running out of things to buy with bills

[cyan forge]

Running out of things to buy with bill?

[keen river]

buy the artificing mats

[river wadi]

golden statue

[cyan forge]

How is that possible

[keen river]

i barely manage to build all of them each week

[cyan forge]

[warm brook]

do we have a good estimation of the total amount of heavy xir and het we are needing to fully clear the event? after we can craft

[fervent lodge]

i wonder if i should build more

[cobalt oriole]

Careful if yall selling gourds btw it lets u trade them for no bills just tokens. They give a prompt but I know many of yall skip

Just dont blind mash

[cyan forge]

[jolly shore]

I'm wondering if I should divert some of my SC factories to gourds

[rapid hedge]

anything below 1k is unacceptable

[cyan forge]

I don't think u need 60k at least?

[rare moon]

i still ran out of facility space in core aic and it's not even full

its so over

[vale bramble]

time to move like 6 of my god forges to 2nd outpost because why not

[rapid hedge]

the magic is just these bottled xircon effs

[vale bramble]

i hope it doesnt kill my china battery production

[cyan forge]

U guys don't make jingyu into forge factory?

[cobalt oriole]

Nah just swap all your forge to normal xira production

[jovial breach]

Ya know what's better

Dump them into the 40k pond

[cyan forge]

Well i split half n half between jingyu n main aic for forge but eh

[marble yarrow]

6 heavy = 6 jade gourd hmmm

[rapid hedge]

already filled with piss

[cyan forge]

Wym?

Pricewise?

[marble yarrow]

production

[jovial breach]

No ratio wise

[marble yarrow]

(you only need 20k )

[cyan forge]

Eh...? Is it?

Oh right heavy xira is basically 3 xira lines

Wtf

[cobalt oriole]

Technically its 9 Heavy for 6 gourds in terms of Xiranite use I think?

[jovial breach]

I only have like 10k heavy rn

[cyan forge]

Gourd too good

[keen river]

the jade gourds are going to be much better than what we can do now

[cyan forge]

How r u so broke? How many comp did u make?

[cobalt oriole]

Cos of the cheap HXira setup

[keen river]

they are like 10x cheaper

[cobalt oriole]

I have like 26k heacy and I feel poor

[jovial breach]

I sold them yesterday

[cyan forge]

Oh

[jovial breach]

Forgot event exists

[cyan forge]

Funni

Am glad i sold battery b4 heavy

[marble yarrow]

y'all broke

[cyan forge]

Now i have 60k heavy lying around

[cobalt oriole]

I mean ||the hxira event formula doesnt use much of it for max efficiency||

[jovial breach]

Btw the event only boosts 10% outpost bills

Sadge

[cyan forge]

I have more heavy n heto part than u do mweheheheh

Oh wut the fk is that 68k hetonite

[rare moon]

Ok i'll come back to this when my xiranite depleted

[cobalt oriole]

@jovial breach Thats alr not bad tbh

[cyan forge]

Mothafaka

[cobalt oriole]

Its like a 700k per week improvement

[jovial breach]

Holy

Can you even keep up with it

[storm garnet]

is normal hetonite needed for the event?

cause i have zero, it all went into parts

[cobalt oriole]

Should be fine if u still making 12SC and some hetoparts

[marble yarrow]

20k heavy = 20k jade gourd (trim)
20k jade gourd = 600k certs (75% of trim)

[meager stream]

ya, for 2nd exchange

[storm garnet]

oof

i guess it's time to hoard

[rapid hedge]

I think I made a mistake making too many hetonite bottles
what if it has no usage in the future

[marble yarrow]

me when cryston bottle

[fervent lodge]

fine, fine

[jovial breach]

Cuz my sc is slowly declining

[rare moon]

never too many

[fervent lodge]

we gourdin this thing

[cobalt oriole]

Bruh how

[cyan forge]

Hmm.. same...

[meager stream]

wowowow hetonite bottle

[jovial breach]

Maybe im making too many heto comps

[marble yarrow]

you're not selling enough. dont hoard

[cobalt oriole]

You should stop for this week

[rare moon]

should make 60k liquid hxiranite heto bottles

[jovial breach]

I got 15k heto comps

[cyan forge]

What the fk

[cobalt oriole]

Also rmb to save some pure hetonite yall

[nova osprey]

how many do you have lol

[river wadi]

why

[jovial breach]

Yeah im also haven't sold the heto parts

[storm garnet]

i haven't sold a single heto part or heavy xira yet since 1.2 started somehow

[marble yarrow]

FR

[rapid hedge]

I used heto bottles to store excess xircon effs
didn't realize you can make infinity bottles from v4 and transfer them through dijiang

[nova osprey]

bruh moment

[cobalt oriole]

||Datamine formula says need pure hetonite not parts||

[cyan forge]

I mean... If u got a ton of sc b4 1.2, u have enuf stashed to keep sellin that without touching the other stuff

I did that til... 3 days ago maybe?

Cos my hxira capped out

[storm garnet]

it was mostly thanks to having 58k teas

[rare moon]

just split your heto production between parts and pure

[cyan forge]

Am not gonna ask how u got that much

[storm garnet]

also, i've been manually moving xira, heavy xira and xircon to v4

[cobalt oriole]

Which do yall think is more value (b4 event), 13SC or cheap HXira to free up 1 forge?

[cyan forge]

13sc, no?

[rare moon]

im almost max just doing that

[cobalt oriole]

Cos Cheap Hxira means u can do the 7+1/6+2 strat

[cyan forge]

Hxira isn't even that good to sell

Iirc?

[cobalt oriole]

Its good to stock though

and 1 extra sc dunno if that worth

[rare moon]

hxira sell is just left over

[cyan forge]

It's good but the conversion is much better on sc i think?

[cobalt oriole]

How much is sc sell again?

[river wadi]

but you dont have enough originium to run 24/min sc

[cyan forge]

54

[cyan forge]

I was gonna say unless u out of orig

[storm garnet]

before this event, i just sold sc on stockade and food on new outpost

[trail mirage]

Anyone got a singular forge blueprint

[storm garnet]

i had to start making food since a few days ago

[cyan forge]

I mean even rn, am doing 13.5/min sc + 10/min gourd

[nova osprey]

yeah it's lower efficiency than selling straight xiranite

[storm garnet]

i'm using only 120 cuprium for heto

[cyan forge]

What? No. It's better than selling regular xira

[river wadi]

#1482091670727295140 message

[storm garnet]

might change it back to 180 if gourds hold up

[eager pelican]

I have one that is self sufficient and o ly needa water

[jolly shore]

so to get 800k fruits we need 80k gourds then another 20k gourds on top of that?

[jovial breach]

last ss before i delete my farm, sorry buddy but i need protocol limit

[cyan forge]

Oof... U will be missed

[nova osprey]

it's not

[river wadi]

claim your protocol pass pls

[cyan forge]

It is

[lavish raft]

how many gourds/min do we need to produce to max outpost stock bill limit?

[cyan forge]

Heavy xira>regular xira

[nova osprey]

you spend 114 xiranite for 6 hxira

[jovial breach]

[nova osprey]

wait

yeah nvm

[cyan forge]

What?

[nova osprey]

hmm wait one sec

[cyan forge]

R u crazy?

[nova osprey]

no it's cost of effluent + cost of forge

[cyan forge]

Regular xira sells for 1 buck

[storm garnet]

a dot got moved somewhere on that math

[cyan forge]

Literally 1 buck

[cobalt oriole]

Ok looks like if you are making 4.5 hetopart, net10sc and 8gourd you make 58,890 per hour which still outsells outpost pretty handily

[nova osprey]

yeah wait one sec i got it mixed up

[cyan forge]

[cobalt oriole]

U can even bank some hetonite from the parts and still be +ve

[jovial breach]

damn so empty...

[jolly shore]

Heavy xira costs 14 xiranite and pays 27, so it;s still better than just selling xiranite. SC are better though

[jovial breach]

that gave me whole 30 limit

[cyan forge]

Correct. That was my point

[subtle finch]

[jolly shore]

posts going too fast, so I @ d the wrong person

[storm garnet]

i fully deleted my farm today for real since i forgot to delete the plots and they were there doing nothing for weeks

[cyan forge]

Sc is prolly the most efficient stuff we can make rn i think?

[storm garnet]

got 20 extra buildings for the limit

[jolly shore]

farm is a collosal waste of time anyway

[river wadi]

when did you get 14 from

[storm garnet]

i didn't delete them before cause they were midway growing

[orchid pilot]

10 is for each of the xira. The effluent stream is 5 but costs 0.8 because of recycle

[river wadi]

but also the heavy xiranite itself uses up a forge

[cyan forge]

How does that change anything?

[tawny bear]

fun fact: to buy out the entire first phase of the aic event, you need to sell 42,300 xiranite gourds, or about 9 months 3 weeks with a single packager

[cyan forge]

Huh? It's that bad?

[storm garnet]

tbh, you are right. 1 forge makes 30/min vs 6/min heavy, and the fact that you don't use xira for making heavy also gives extra xira

[tawny bear]

you only get 10 event points from a single gourd

[cyan forge]

Mfker

[storm garnet]

you are going from 150 to 240 xira if you abandon 6 heavy

[cobalt oriole]

Nah its only 4.895 days where tf u get 9 months from

[subtle finch]

hoarding heavy is the actual strat, it's a bait

[cobalt oriole]

That is assuming 6/min gourd

[keen river]

he probably forgot to divide by 60 for hours

[tawny bear]

oh woops there was an extra 0 in my total =3=

[jovial breach]

i fucking forgor

[cyan forge]

Blud

[subtle finch]

blursed fact

[cobalt oriole]

Getcho bottles out

8/min gourders can sell out in 3.67 days

[rare moon]

Fill it with acid

[keen river]

aic event part 1 finished, now it just needs to wait three days..

[meager stream]

stash 💀🗿

[tawny bear]

okay there's no way you have enough xiranite for that >.>

[fervent lodge]

i wonder if i should go to outposts or stop here for now

[river wadi]

thats 8 xiranite lines which is the number of forges you can get

[keen river]

thats exactly 8 belts of xiranite for 8 forges

thats why there is stash in top right working as 2->3 balancer 😅

[river wadi]

but also where are you getting power from

[tawny bear]

howre u gonna power em without batteries >.>

[cobalt oriole]

Bro make some batteries lmao

[fervent lodge]

34 minutes left for full depletion

[cobalt oriole]

U not gonna buy out the outposts like that

[keen river]

thats the neat part 😅

[cobalt oriole]

Thats gone by day 5 lmao

[keen river]

you only need 3 days to buy everything tho

[fervent lodge]

yeah

the stash is more than enough

and you can always just run on valley power instead

[jovial breach]

[keen river]

yeah

[meager stream]

sell em all 🗿💀

[cobalt oriole]

Extras are converted to excess bills at the end so stock 68k is worth it

Also apparently theres infinite tcred item in phase 2 soooooooo

[keen river]

i will probably run on the v4 batteries for reminder of event

[river wadi]

WHAt

[keen river]

since i dont need sc bat production the power consumption goes to zero

[rare moon]

At 2.25 per min sc usages, this gets you 11 days

[fervent lodge]

fixed by a patch

capped now

[cobalt oriole]

Damn what an L

But its ok they convert tokens to bills too

[river wadi]

what rate

[cobalt oriole]

After some time after end of event

[cobalt oriole]

Idk no announcements on that

Have to wait and see

[keen river]

also note that

[ripe jacinth]

Other way around - If you max out on bills they get turned into tokens

[cyan forge]

Each xira sells for 1 buck.

That means that 6/min heavy xira yields a total of 162 bucks.

Xira used in makin hxira is 14 for each. So just 162-(14x6) = 78

A forge making xira produces 30 xira/min which gives 30 bucks.

U make 78-30 = 48 bucks profit/min when making hxira instead of xira from a forge at peak efficiency.

[cobalt oriole]

No not that. Afterwords. When the token shop closes.

[keen river]

ah no

the event ends when new map releases

[cobalt oriole]

They convert whatever u didnt use to buy into bills

[keen river]

so you cant use the 12 forges to make more items for exchange

oh well

[ripe jacinth]

That's such a weird way to do it lol

[fervent lodge]

sadge

[jolly shore]

I still can't decide whether to take apart my SC factories or to dismantle my heavy xiranite and devote 4 forges to gourds

[cyan forge]

Tbh i'd rather the gourds stay

[nova osprey]

it's 19 xira for 1 hxira

[fervent lodge]

why dismantle

[cobalt oriole]

Cut HXira and leave SC

[nova osprey]

don't forget the cost of the forge itself

[fervent lodge]

just depot it and do gourds elsewhere

[cyan forge]

How is it 19?

[storm garnet]

ugh, can't use bottles for bottling

[nova osprey]

the forge used to make hxira

[cyan forge]

I literally listed it

[fervent lodge]

actual scam bottles

[cyan forge]

Read the 3rd line

[jolly shore]

what a rip

[fervent lodge]

but it makes sense because they will disappear i think

[subtle finch]

the liquid will just spill when the event is over

[nova osprey]

10 xira for 1 hxira + 5 xira lost from forge + 4 from effluent

[cyan forge]

Once again. Read the 3rd line of my message.

[potent glen]

should i derate my heavy xiranite factory for the event

[nova osprey]

ah

[river wadi]

yea stop heavy xiranite production and start gourd production

[storm garnet]

i just wanted to unlock the recipes

[nova osprey]

it says 14 no?

[fervent lodge]

ok my outposts are officially broke, they can't keep up with my 72/min gourd

[storm garnet]

and the items themselves for the database

[cyan forge]

Read the 3rd line. Not the second.

Oh fk i meanth 4th

Omfg am tripping

Sorry

This might be a sign that i should sleep

@nova osprey 4th line mb

[nova osprey]

Xira used in makin hxira is 14 for each. So just 162-(14x6) = 78

pretty sure i read this right, you said 14

[solid quiver]

with this set up it's running on 195/210 how to match?

[keen river]

also 🤔

[cyan forge]

Read the 4th line cos i listed the forge cost on that

[solid quiver]

xiranite per min

[keen river]

i should put some valley SC battery production in wuling somewhere

otherwise the originum will overflow

[cyan forge]

I was just high i forgot it's the 4th, not 3rd line where i explained the forge cost

[nova osprey]

that's why i was confused for a sec too

but anyways yeah mb i missed that

[cyan forge]

That aside hm... I guess at some point we'll be making xira vs hxira at 2:1 efficiency eh....

[storm garnet]

pre event: 1 heavy. event: 0 heavy. post event: 2 heavy

[cyan forge]

I wonder what good we'll be makin then

[storm garnet]

well, we'll see the second part of the event

[cyan forge]

Right

[nova osprey]

post event I'm heavy

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrow can i sustain outpost with making 1.125 heto comp

[round crystal]

I retrofitted my system to make heavy liquid xiranite bottles but I forgot to undo it for quite a few days once I had enough

I guess I'll turn Wuling green

[wary vine]

But without heavy i cannot produce components...
is this really what we are supposed to do?

[marble yarrow]

depends. what items are u selling (net SC and etc)

[storm garnet]

we don't need that many heto comps anyways

[cyan forge]

Why do u even need that much components tho

[nova osprey]

do you even need the comps though

[wary vine]

I meant gear parts
Trying to max Fangyi

[cyan forge]

Heto comp r stupid expensive

[spark hedge]

8/min

[storm garnet]

dude just stop making comps

[nova osprey]

people making heto comps frighten me

[cyan forge]

U r artificing by saccing heto comp gears? Or am i tripping?

[cyan forge]

I mean... I made like 2k then stopped

[nova osprey]

same same, that's enough for 40 pieces of equipment

[storm garnet]

there isn't even non set heto gears, no reason at all to use them that much

[jovial breach]

maybe ill stop at 20k

[river wadi]

who even needs hetonite components for their armors

[cyan forge]

40 i can make a hell lot more than 40 w that

[storm garnet]

even 2k is a lot

[tawny ravine]

Is there any "good match" thats unique to a heto comp gear ?

[cyan forge]

Alot of chara if u wanna test gears tbh

[cyan forge]

Absolutely none

[storm garnet]

pretty sure there isn't

[nova osprey]

isnt it 40x50 = 2k

[wary vine]

... omg i'm so stupid i thought battle skill damage bonus on kits was exclusive to hetonite 😭 tyyyyy

[nova osprey]

there's none

[tawny ravine]

So heto comps really useless huh

[storm garnet]

and good matches are not even worth it anyways, always try to use xira comps

[cyan forge]

It eat 50 comp each...? I didn't even check

[cobalt oriole]

Hetocomps just for initial rn BUT

[subtle finch]

[cyan forge]

What the hell?

[nova osprey]

yeah 50 comps each

[cobalt oriole]

Itll likely have nonset in new area

[cyan forge]

Also that's 200

[nova osprey]

but you only need one set per char that needs so

[cyan forge]

W8 no

Fk gah my brain is slippin

[nova osprey]

[storm garnet]

delete those v2.finalversion.final.thistimeforreal

[cyan forge]

2000 is, yeah

[nova osprey]

it's okay

[cyan forge]

Fk

[cobalt oriole]

The bigger issue with hetocomps is it costs 25k to craft 1 gear like holy hell

[cyan forge]

So i can only make 40 gears huh

[nova osprey]

i mean 40 will probably last you really long anyways

[cyan forge]

To hell with it

[cobalt oriole]

So damn ex

[nova osprey]

atm yeah

[cyan forge]

Cupri comp my best friend

[cobalt oriole]

1mil bills btw

[nova osprey]

yeah and i saw people using heto gear to artifice 💀

[jovial breach]

ok i half my heto comp making

[cyan forge]

Oh, it is actually 1mil. Fk

[jovial breach]

should be 0.5625/min now

[storm garnet]

so, i just made the math and i'm using 216k xira per day ABOVE the yield

[cyan forge]

Lol

[storm garnet]

and i already deleted 1 packager

still rocking 3 though

might have to go down to 1

[cyan forge]

43k for me

[jovial breach]

wtf happened to my xira yield

[graceful wraith]

Chen touched it

[cobalt oriole]

Time to go eat my Mexican beef wrap and suffer stomachaches for a few days

Wait wrong channel

[jovial breach]

WHAT somehow a pipe is reversed flow

i must have misclicked

[cobalt oriole]

U can change it from the menu

[marble yarrow]

ultra slow gourd drip

[cobalt oriole]

Using only 1 forge worth I see

[vale bramble]

"Darkmask! I told ya this'd work!!"

[cyan forge]

Why not just max gourd it

Why so cheap smh

[uneven aspen]

is there a cap to how many of the event goods i can sell?

[cobalt oriole]

Btw how do yall like to balance lines with protostashes or with splitters and convergers

[cobalt oriole]

No but it stops giving u bills if u sell more than what is there

[cyan forge]

Doesn't that just depend on input?

[fading trout]

does any1 happen to be done math for gourds yet? is 6/m enough to clear even shore?

[cobalt oriole]

No I mean like. If u want to distribute 4 inputs into 6 lines. Do you like protostash or splitter

[cyan forge]

Oh

[cobalt oriole]

You need about 4.895 days yeah

For 8/min it’s 3.67days

[fading trout]

@cyan forge thanks guys

[marble yarrow]

im a belt logistics enjoyer

[storm garnet]

i like how gourds use 3 belts. it couldn't be 2 or 4, no, it had to be 3

so my math goes all to shit

[cyan forge]

If this is for gourd splittin into 2 prod, i'd say stash is less headache

It's chonkier tho am p sure

[cyan forge]

Be like me: depletes all xira so it balances itself out from 6 output

[cobalt oriole]

True rm I’m splitting 2 lines into 3 via stashes twice

[cyan forge]

[jovial breach]

that means your sc will also be affected

[vale bramble]

im so tired that my dumb self just tore down 6 god forges just to place 6 blueprints of them right back in the same spot thinking i could place them somewhere else
atleast im making 2 packaging units worth of gourds right now

[storm garnet]

can't deplete xira, i'm still making 12 sc

[cyan forge]

Nope, i get my xira for sc straight from the forge

[cobalt oriole]

Same

[cyan forge]

I make 13.5 sc, no problem for me kekw

[subtle finch]

what's the rate of that?

[solid quiver]

anyone?

[storm garnet]

you guys are too smart

[marble yarrow]

21.6667 for xira gourd
8.3333 for LC

[cyan forge]

This is why u don't slap all ur forge in jingyu

0 risk

[jovial breach]

[marble yarrow]

cursed ratio

[jovial breach]

i will just delete the middle thing when xira runs low

[cyan forge]

I can't tell what's happening

[subtle finch]

i just went with 20/min xir 1.25 sc

[cobalt oriole]

It’s not even correct ratio lmao

[cyan forge]

My sc rn is like
1 full line + 1 half line + 3/4 from purifier

[real python]

should i deplete all my xira

[cyan forge]

1+0.5+0.75

2.25 x 6

[solid quiver]

it's stuck on 195 idk what's bottlenecking

[cyan forge]

I am on a bad orig deficit

Am cooked

[jovial breach]

yes it's 2 75% lines

[cobalt oriole]

But why

[jovial breach]

it looks funny

that's it

[cyan forge]

Left bottom side u used splitter to go into crucible and forge

[cobalt oriole]

You can do 167% effiency with 5 lines and u don’t

[cyan forge]

Could be why (not 100% efficient line)

[storm garnet]

ok, got it on exact now

[subtle finch]

i'm going all in for phase 2 instead

.allin

[cinder sun]

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[storm garnet]

now i just need a temporary setup so i can deplete like 50k

[jovial breach]

oh true but i mean i would change it anyway when xira runs low

[cyan forge]

Omfg what the hell

[digital mirage]

bruh all my pacs/sub pacs are 100% used up on space

this fucking event lmao

does anyone have compact bp for the event gourds

[cyan forge]

How?

[cobalt oriole]

Tbf my plan is to make 42.3k + 68k

[storm garnet]

you can make 8/min gourds with 12/min sc

[cyan forge]

Compact bp...? Isn't it compact alr?

[keen river]

do we know how much the better gourd sells for?

[storm garnet]

no heavy

[digital mirage]

i need it to be suuuper small lmao

i am literally using all area in my pacs

[cyan forge]

U can make 10/min with 13.5/min sc if u r willling to go on a orig deficit

[marble yarrow]

||120|| source: trust me

[cyan forge]

[orchid pilot]

How many event points tho?

[jolly shore]

how was I supposed to know the event was going to ask me to store effluent for later...............

[marble yarrow]

just ratio it with current (divide 4)

[cobalt oriole]

40/50 sounds like a good number

[orchid pilot]

I think your text file showed bills?

[cyan forge]

U need better bp ngl

[digital mirage]

im not using bps

[cyan forge]

Crazy

[cobalt oriole]

Crazy self burn

[orchid pilot]

OK agree that 30 is probably a conservative estimate, I'll use that

[keen river]

xira -> heavy is 15:1 roughtly 🤔

[marble yarrow]

do u have baby oil

[digital mirage]

Why

[cyan forge]

It's not rly

[subtle finch]

maybe this will still be useful for those that wanna rush the shop

[cyan forge]

@keen river

[orchid pilot]

I do a lot of unhinged things but I think this is the worst I've ever seen LMAO

[solid quiver]

nevermind Imma just make it normal one

[wispy wren]

the hoarding was worth it

[digital mirage]

what is minimum space required for the gourd

[wispy wren]

I can go 999 on gourds

[jovial breach]

damn

[cyan forge]

Pretty

[cobalt oriole]

Super small tbh my setup is less than 20x20 for 8/min

[digital mirage]

kk i think i can work it

can u show ss so i know what pieces are rqeuired w/o clicking the flowchart thing

[keen river]

basically this much

[digital mirage]

kk got it

ty

[reef dagger]

I can halve this to make more bottles right?

[cobalt oriole]

Peak nickname lmao

[wispy wren]

run like 100/m untill you run out of xiranite

[jovial breach]

no idea what that means

[jovial breach]

yes but if you're fine without making sc

[cobalt oriole]

I don’t rec it try doing this instead
13SC 4.5part 8gourd

[glad needle]

wdyg think with my 30/m xiranite production

[cobalt oriole]

Look at what it says under the username

[reef dagger]

that's neg xiranite

[jovial breach]

maximum sustainable gourd prod is 8/min with 12/min sc battery

[cobalt oriole]

Nope it’s 240/min

Exactly enough

[cobalt oriole]

*13.5SC with metastorage and purification into xircon

[rugged gulch]

i shut down a battery line to make more gourd. I dont sell any of my Yazhen C so they should cover the loss. at least for a time.

[cyan forge]

[cyan forge]

8? Why not 10?

U have 5 forges

[cobalt oriole]

Wym 5 we have 4

[jovial breach]

well 4

[cyan forge]

3 for sc and 5 for gourd

[jovial breach]

[cobalt oriole]

How is 12SC 3 line xira gonna work

[cyan forge]

There's no reason to run 4 for sc unless u make heavy xira

[cyan forge]

3 line sc is 9/min.

U get 0.75 effluent

That is enuf for uh 3/4 of a production line which is 4.5/min

It's just enuf

Yknow

[quick hornet]

make heavy xira to prep for next week

[cyan forge]

Unless i am hella tripping here?

[cobalt oriole]

U are

U forgot to half the purification output

[jovial breach]

well it can change a bit if you try to do something with the xircon from purification

[cobalt oriole]

Making xircon costs 2 effluent

[jovial breach]

i just store it

[cyan forge]

Oh

W8 fuk i miscalced it?

W8 what's my sc production at then

[jovial breach]

basically you used 4 forge for 12 sc, then 4 forge for gourd which is 8/min

[cobalt oriole]

Prob like 10.5 or smth?

[cyan forge]

9+2.25/min?

11.25/min?

[cobalt oriole]

1.125

+9

U at 10.125

[cyan forge]

It's not 1.125

How is it 1.125?

[subtle finch]

this is my recommended prod if you wanna rush shop

[graceful wraith]

Numbers in my aic channel?

[jovial breach]

more than 10.5 for sure

[digital mirage]

ty found a tiny corner to do this lol

[cobalt oriole]

Making Xircon costs 2 effluent 1 powder

[cyan forge]

Yeah and i'm saying am at .75 effluent

[cobalt oriole]

Hmm wait a min lemme figure this out

[cyan forge]

1 whole line is 6/min. Half that is 3. Then 3/4 should be 2.25

[jovial breach]

why are you running 2 lines at 50% instead of 1 at 100%

[cyan forge]

9+2.25

[digital mirage]

misclick thx

[cyan forge]

Hm this is bad cos it means am on an orig surplus. Not deficit

[digital mirage]

wait

[cyan forge]

Oh no

[digital mirage]

wym

[cyan forge]

[storm garnet]

bottles need 2 belts of xira

[digital mirage]

ohhh

[jovial breach]

you need 2 xira lines to make bottle

[digital mirage]

ok

ty

[cobalt oriole]

U only feeding 3 lines of inert

[digital mirage]

i thought it was 1

[cobalt oriole]

Hmm then

[cyan forge]

Which is .75 of efluent

[keen river]

if you move the core away from border

you can put 6 unloaders on it easily

withotu depot bus

this should be enough space

[subtle finch]

1 xircon only costs 1.6 xiranite if you use its own purified inert, that's why i shared the reactor setup earlier

[cyan forge]

Aw man... I can't believe i mistook my prod badly

Yuck

[digital mirage]

m cores used

[keen river]

nah, 1 core should be sufficient

and you have the core there

[cobalt oriole]

Ok u making that excess xircon at 0.375 efficiency

Added to the other lines

[digital mirage]

me?? my cores used

[cobalt oriole]

Not u

I think

[keen river]

you can do something like this

and get 6 belts out

[digital mirage]

clever thx

[cobalt oriole]

@cyan forge I think u right actually 11.25 seems correct

[sonic summit]

wait what setup again?

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message

[cobalt oriole]

But that’s 11.25 vs 13.5 with another xira line which is hmm not that worth actually

[cyan forge]

Hm... This is gonna be kinda annoying tho

[cobalt oriole]

Hol up

My brain ain’t braining

[cyan forge]

If i get another xira line, it's+3

Actually, 3.25

[cobalt oriole]

No that’s 2.25

13.5-11.25=2.25

[cyan forge]

How?

[subtle finch]

that layout actually only use 96 xiranite/min for 60/min of xircon

[cyan forge]

Uh, dif setup

Basically

[cobalt oriole]

Ok what is your production at rn

[cyan forge]

I mean if u just add 1 more xira line to sc in my current layout. It'd just make it into +3.25

[astral forge]

whats the strat if im phase2maxxing

[cyan forge]

That 11.25 i assume

I'll think of a way to balance it tmr i guess

Ffs, what a joke lol

[cobalt oriole]

Ok technically

[subtle finch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q4NjfhyYLnKv-ws2ErCk9nzg1vWuPK3KPDv9ex4EmFc/edit?usp=sharing

[cyan forge]

I kinda know what to do alr

[cobalt oriole]

It’s 15/min with 4 lines but u limited by the originium

[subtle finch]

make a copy and calculate your own rates

[cyan forge]

Am just moreso confused

[cyan forge]

Indeed

[cobalt oriole]

So functionally it’s like 13.5 to be stable

[cyan forge]

How do i get 13.25 from my setup

[subtle finch]

this is 1.25sc

[cyan forge]

I need +2 which is... Half a line of xira...? That'd be +1.5 battery giving .125

So closest i can get is +1.6125?

[dusky anchor]

Guys how do I fix this?

[cyan forge]

I don't understand how i need to make the sewage not clog for that 13.25

[cobalt oriole]

Someone get the thermal bank guide img

[cobalt oriole]

Ts is why we just do 4 lines

So that sewage is a nice flat 30

[cyan forge]

But if u do 4 line, what do u do w the surplus?

[subtle finch]

that's why i shared the pics so you don't have to
it's a real pain to figure it out yourself, that's why people stick to 12/min

[cyan forge]

Uh right i missed it

[jovial breach]

i should stop staring at my aic

[cyan forge]

This setup?

[rapid hedge]

welp back to the old boring production rate

[sonic summit]

@subtle finch question ,
can you clog the water on red one? also is the blue crucible can be cloged ?

[velvet hemlock]

Marsh gas so strong in defense mode e.e

[cobalt oriole]

Treatment

[cyan forge]

Hell no

[digital mirage]

ty whoever gave me the starfish template

[cyan forge]

I'd rather eat my free 30 xira

[cobalt oriole]

Bopes man it’s sewage

[subtle finch]

yes, and the top pic for +1.25

[jovial breach]

im running 5 treatment units total for all the excess sewage

[cobalt oriole]

I have like so much around my aic just going into treatment

[cyan forge]

God....

[cyan forge]

Oh. I mean for the inert

[velvet hemlock]

Cant you feed it into some production line?

[cyan forge]

What do u use the effluent for?

[cobalt oriole]

Just into purification then

[cyan forge]

Puri and then?

[cobalt oriole]

Become more effluent to use to make more xircon

[cyan forge]

Oh

This is the perk of having ur xira line come from depo huh

I forgot abt that, fk

Appreciate the help... But i think imma just stick to my random 11.25 sc instead of that.... It looks too chonky for my base lol

[subtle finch]

min-maxing your raw mats takes a decent effort
but it's entirely optional

[hidden hornet]

Guys I am not ready for the event

[cyan forge]

Yeah

[cobalt oriole]

Too late it’s alr starte

[cyan forge]

Does sc sell more per value than gourd?

[cobalt oriole]

[hidden hornet]

I know

[cobalt oriole]

Yes but it’s not really comparable

[cyan forge]

Elaborate

[cobalt oriole]

You should make as much sc as your og allows

Sc is capped by a diff resource than gourd after all

[hidden hornet]

It doesn’t give the stuffs

[cyan forge]

Right

[hidden hornet]

Fml

[subtle finch]

someone says otherwise

[cobalt oriole]

Also sc technically costs 2 xira to make while gourd costs 3

[hidden hornet]

This is the kinda shit that makes me wanna kms

[cobalt oriole]

Then 1 sells for 54 and the other 40

[cyan forge]

Huh? That's the best value?

[cyan forge]

Yeah that pt i noticed. Fk

[subtle finch]

that's crazy minmaxxing, they were assuming you can buy unlimited t-creds with the certs

apparently they patched it

[cobalt oriole]

Best value in terms of event items only

[cyan forge]

Oh

So there's no reason to do it anymore then

[sonic summit]

whoops wrong pict

[cobalt oriole]

Iirc the conversion was smth insane like 10k carts for 500 creds

[subtle finch]

it's too complicated to explain honestly, idk if i can

[sonic summit]

can you... overflow the water?

[cedar bay]

I assume I can just stop making Heavy Xiranite an just transfer my two small Xiranite into making the new component & still purchase everything from the event shop?

I kinda don't wanna spend hours doing my best again.

[cobalt oriole]

Let’s see how many lines are u freeing up

Do assuming u stop making Hxira

[subtle finch]

they made the event intended for casuals to clear, don't mind it too much, you can clear the shop easily

[cobalt oriole]

You should have 4 free forges

[subtle finch]

people here just want to go beyond the baseline

[cyan forge]

I want to see what they give us if we get too much event currency

[glad needle]

so xiranite gourd is useles ?

[hidden hornet]

Ugh is that really max?

[subtle finch]

everything is clogged with water afaik, the water from purifier is just set to priority so that it gets used first and doesn't clog

[swift steppe]

Xiranite Gourd is purely for the event currencey, idk how it compares to regular outpost products

[cobalt oriole]

9.79 days to empty shop

[cobalt oriole]

Equal with HXira worse than sc

[ornate crescent]

I fixed it btw:)

[cyan forge]

It's equal w hxira...?

[cedar bay]

Should be making that much currency a day no?

[cobalt oriole]

Only if 12Sc and Hxira is hooked to inert

[cyan forge]

Huh...

[icy garden]

hOLY

[cobalt oriole]

U need 42,300 to buy out the shop

42,300 gourds

Total certs needed is 423,000