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origium will always involved for batteries. I guess combination of origium + xiranite + parts
10 Xiranite and 5 Xircon Effluent
the event items are auto sold at the end of the event
yeah, but they could be reintroduced in 1.3
X
seems likely next battery is five lines input dense orig accompanying wuling city mineral purity increase
awww, no souvenir for end content
¯_(ツ)_/¯
so lets do 20 xircon 10 or 15 heavy xiranite fluid for a heavy xircon
i wonder if 1.3 will have next outpost 🤔
smarter ppl than me probably already have it figured out
i expect the next outpost will end up in the northen exclusion zone
All I know, is for a fact i'm way to over prepped for the AIC event
Probably, I can see 1.4 as filler then 2.0 for new region
dunno
I've got the factory to make Xiranite Gourds, and the materials to probably complete phase 1 in the first 2 hours
fourth outpost pls pls copium copium
i think we will get at least 2 more maps in wuling
probably 1.3 + 1.4 will be the northen zone / closing the rift? 🤔
i dont expect another region anytime soon tbh
Test Area and North Exclusion Zone. There dosent appear to be any other places of entry for another area. Unless the NEZ heads to another area.
we only have like 4 to 6 new operators related to Wuling so that like 2 to 3 patches if they continue of 2 banners per patch
gonna post it again just in case. The AIC event is probably gonna boost the stockbills generated by outposts.
Need this
Yeap, Qingbo has this suspiciously long protrusion on the south of its map with a road that leads to a cliff and if you zoom in on the north part of Wuling around the raft there's a path there that's cut off, when i tried to look at its edge from another vantage, there's a massive closed gate there.
yeah
I'm already letting the outposts max stockbills an hour or so after the new day
plus a massive stockpile of Batteries
MONEEHHH MORE MONNEEEEEHHH!!!!
the cliff is somehow not part of Qingbo stockade too
conceivably, there could also be a map leading south of where you first land in wuling (stairs that are blocked off)
Mi Fu's story location probably 👀
Oh really? I must've missed that one
wuling story feels kinda complete already though
quingbo's south map is there, there is even an npc saying that great stuff awaits and an interactable saying it will take a while to clean up
does it tho 🤔
to my understanding, there is this massive blight going on in the north
where the ninja's come from for the current story
"good stuff jump below" ahh npc
it's the north for everyone not just wuling,
Minus Arcane being asleep and Ardashir maybe* being stuck in that area
to my understanding, the north exclusion zone is part of wuling (?)
it should be the place where they fucked up 10 years ago and blighed everything
and then the zone where Order Of Steel fights is completely on north pole of planet
those two should be separate
the north of talos 2 is blighted so everyone's north is a blight central
we dont even know what happened 10 years ago really, we have only seen consequences from Zhuan's point of view
Chances are, this map will open up first. We still need to wait for the Sui Proxy to arrive and Arcane to wake up before jumping into the Exclusion Zone with them and the rest of YSTF.
well I don't think they're actually at the northpole, just in arctic region
northpole is cooked, covered in aurora
didn't the rift under wuling open up at that time
i assume its the aurora thing we see from the orbit in Dijiang
" In Talosian Calendar, Year 142, the Tianshi at Wuling Science Station attempted to sever the connection between the central rift and its branch systems using Xiranite, hoping to contain the fissure's expansion. Despite meticulous preparation, the operation triggered disastrous consequences. Within two hours, both the science station and prototype Xiranite facilities were completely consumed by Blight tides. The disaster site, now known as the North Wuling Exclusion Zone, remains an unhealed scar on Wuling City's landscape. While the Tianshi Pillar Array has effectively controlled liquid Blight in the region, HAS Tianshi understand the ever-expanding Very Large Rift could unleash another disastrous tide at any moment, threatening to submerge the entire territory once more. "
^
hmm i wonder if the test area is where the science station is
what about the rift under Wuling?
what about it? wasn't it sealed in the main quest
or there's more rifts?
Isn't that where marker stone was built
but the marker stone is south of wuling city
and clearly nothing is happening there, so it cant be part of northen exclusion zone
werent that place completely wiped out
we see the pretty blight tides on the top right of wuling city where the test area is.
I guess theres a main rift and branch systems, and the rift under Wuling is a branch?
assuming the science station was flooded by the tide, that should where the test area is
im just speculating
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i think the test area was flooded by current expansion of the blight
same what flooded the island next to monitoring center and the sea around it
the north area should be stuff that happened 10 years ago and consequences of it
Science Station is in NEZ
Man, making me see the Test Area every time i farm my essence but not able to physically go there(yet) gives me pain.
heck, we dont even know what exactly went wrong, its possible we will see some lore to it
like someone messing their operation or something
In this guys quote
Central rift is in NEZ
for more information I get it here. https://warfarin.wiki/en/documents/nar_document_v0d8_21_1
Bruh i can literally see the blight blob, let me at least shoot it with heavy xiranite or something 
intercontinental ballistic heavy xiranite
i'm not clear on that specifically, but it's said the VLR is dozens of km wide, so should only be part of it regardless
still a bit confused I get its a branching system, but the main rift is under wuling or in NEZ
it probably just connects the two
I'm gonna assume the VLR is in North Exclusion Zone because what we see under Wuling isn't that big
Probably, let's just say while Wuling is still on top if the Very Large Rift, it's not right on the center of it of it. The Exclusion Zone is probably the gaping maw at the center of the Rift.
" Phase two of the building of Qingbo Stockade is probably related to environmental engineering. After reading through the writings and records of the sketcher you uploaded, we also checked ambient readings synced with us when you deployed the Sub-PAC. Our analysis revealed that the overall architectural design of Qingbo Stockade was rather similar to outpost expansion during a certain period in our history. Shortly after the First Aggeloi War ended, researchers proposed many plans for building small outposts. These designs focused on maximizing the use of local topography, adapting to the local environment, and low-cost construction methods to intercept, channel, and divert Blight masses... Qingbo Stockade happens to match this approach. "Water falls from the sky" may seem like an esoteric line, but Qingbo Stockade actually lives up to this name with its high-rise buildings. We can assume, with good reason, that an individual knowledgeable in such architectural approaches lived amongst the Stockaders during that time. "
or mentioning the VLR is akin to talking about all the rifts as one
it would make sense because the current constructions as we see them are more of a containment measure than anything
kinda doubt they'd add one to an already released map, but maybe?
nothings impossible, they could open a clearing
Is a setup like this not supposed to work? The two refining units on the left clog, I'm assuming because there are too many pipe convergers in series for the sewage output?
will see....
tbh looking through the in game lore file
is this efficient?
hello everyone
I do have a question
did anyone successfully pushed the output of Hetonite part to 6/min? or more?
I am stuck with 3/min at the moment.
is there are optimal way to generate cuprium solution optimally?
likely not enough sewage consumption
it doesnt look like wuling city itself is on any particularly nasty segment of the large lift
the region itself is, but the city not so sure
Yeah, Qingbo is weird. For a "primitive" region it seems preemed for outpost expansion, it even has a very powerful blight filter that managed to run for at least a century with barely if any maintenance. Why the outpost wasn't built or why they descended into more primitive life is still unknown.
probably this
its "on the rift" in a way that the rift covers whole region i guess
It links to 4 expanded crucibles for xircon production plus some extra purifiers for leftover sewage (which there shouldn't be?)
pipes have a max flowrate
i think
you know whats one thing that is missing from english translation of this game? the name of city / region itself. In Ch/JP its called 武陵町, aka Warrior's Mausoleum CIty
Not enough cuprium usage
nice bit missing from en translation completely
Also, look at the flow rate for your acid
i thought thats what it was
hmm maybe try converging pipes into two pairs feeding into third converger to see if that helps
Yeah, 2/s, but each refining unit should only add .5/s
you would need 8 lanes of copium for single effective hetonite
we dont have enough mining spots for it yet
since I know three splitter in series can be problematic
Yeah I'll try that, thanks
Man, 40k+ Xircon Effluent in Cryston Bottles
if this fails you can also just direct pipe into the crucibles
uglier but guaranteed to work
Thnx I now will make maximum efficiency
the 2 in this recipe is brutal :<
Cryston, the thing that's been useless ever since v4
I'll have over 40k when i'm done
In my zealous over preperation for the event, i'm having to find novel ways of storing things
That’s crazy
i'll be at 148k Xiranite by tomorrow
" With an average radius approximately 1.55 times that of Talos-II, Terra bears planetary dimensions far exceeding its colonial counterpart. Yet remarkably, the cyclical rhythms of day and night, along with seasonal variations, demonstrate negligible differences between the two worlds. This synchronization is widely believed to be the result of precursor technology, an unknown mechanism that somehow calibrated both planets' rotations to match some lost celestial template. It is this mysterious harmony that allowed the people of Talos-II to seamlessly adopt the fundamental calendar systems brought from Terra. "
So Terra still bigger than Talos-II
Damn I wish I could be productive like that
processing extra into Xircon Effluent because it can go either to Xircon for batteries or into Hvy Xiranite
its less being over productive and just creating a massive backlog to clear because i wanna complete the event as quick as i can
Are we allowed to post set ups for the event?
Idk how exact it is but im done sith mine, 30x15 for everything
Can't wait to break entire base to build stuff again 
i have, i've made a 84/m Xiranite Gourd setup and posted bps of it
I made this all in one bs
Oh wait should spoiler
Oh wait i could rotate the crucible
Jade Gourd's likely wont unlock till later in the event, probably not on first day
Man I really need to clean up my hetanite area
in-area treatment 
im not a schizo 
Just make all in one
This was the problem after all, not enough water treatment units at the end 
Drop a bp ill try to do it for fun
Has to be na server tho
nice, glad you figured it out lol
It said that on day eight new stuff is available so…
Is one conduit manifold enough for 6 crucible hetonite?
i'm too used to not thinking in terms of manifold lol
You need 4 pumps pumping into 1, but yes
Well, 4 once we get the extra cuprium
And u can actually make 30/m hetonite
Man I need to finish my hetonite prod before my base ran out of power again
you can put down extra thermal bank with battery, toggle as needed
Still 3 pumps with feedback acid for 30/min heto
correct
4 acid pumps for manifold like this is max capacity yes?
yes

at least this version you only need 3 tho
i should metatransfer cryston for bottles to use
going to have to anyway for my collection
Bruh
I manualed over the Amethyst
i dont need batteries
batteries can be turned into any product you want if you pwm
44k Xircon Effluent in Cryston bottles. Hopefully i'll need it someday.
batteries are temporary. liquid bottles are forever
I know theres someone out there sitting on 68k Liquid Hvy Xiranite in Hetanite Bottles tho.
I just have water bottles got to stay hydrated after all that running with heavy packages
i'll prob stop some battery production for the event
I'm crazy, why do i keep calling it Hetanite. . .its Hetonite
tetonite
i still have some hoard left in v4

67
will next region also have liquids
Can't stop till i hit 80k
We dont know
Maybe it will have gas instead
..which u still transport in pipes

nuclear would be nice
turn the blight into power
nah, just place some solar panels
depending on story direction, might eventually deal with aether-related products and energy generation
Uh can I ask how does this one work?
alternating inputs right?

or am i just not seeing the whole picture
Yea I guessed so, but I'm not seeing how to do that
Or is it literally just merger?
the converger just rotates between which input it pushes forward
only works if you start all the crucibles without any items/liquid like placing with blueprint
it's only 2 unit of cuprium soln + 2 unit of hetonite soln, so pipe can handle the rate
it will clog if you connect it too late, and let red accumulates
actually, it's 1.5 unit of orange, so its even less
0.75/s of heto soln + 1/s of comp soln to be exact
im doing this for hetonite 
good cook with puri output merge, noting
my take
, uses more bus
reminds me I need to fix this because purification units can be placed and usable outside the aic borders now
you're not paying rent by area used 😭
when we get 12 forges it's going to be a bit tight in space so it saves some.
Ok I think I did it, convoluted asf tho
Btw if the acid clogs, will it affect anything?

My manifold is connected to 4 pumps, so it might be a tad bit too much
btw i have updated the single forge, piping is inlined now
It looks like the acid is being looped back
So if it clogs, you wont produce getonite solution
oh that's neat makes placing it down easier
From the look of it, it's running fine, I think? Dunno what will happen if I leave it for a while tho
Idk but yoir xira is hurting
Oh I'm establishing dominance over the xiranite dw abt it
dang 1 line less than mines
How does this compare with this one?
#aic-factory message
it will take me 1 more month to cap heto comp at my current rate 
Btw, is the hetonite and hetonite components in my image correct? As in did I reach the prod limit?
As long as you're making 22.5 hetonite
if your shredders are not idling or clogging, you did it right
Yes u are capped to making 22.5 per min with only 6/8 ore we have rn
mine is smaller?
Mine is bigger 
Nice, i didnt wanna count lmao
hikarin's is same size. only conflict is pylon placement
that was such a long time ago 
The spaghettiest of them all
as long as it works.. size doesnt matter
Dw it's the motion that matters
For acid, nominal
For Curpium, i am utilizing 4 lines
Size is really a non issue anyways
that's what she said
So true size doesnt matter...
brother next time i say more compact

Yeah as long as it's bigger than 6-
*gets banned*
Its getting harder to fit these in...
i like it tight
😳
Fits just right
mines is 16x25 which makes it 80x50 in 10 forge set up. if i had 15x25 id have 75x50. 5 lines for depot or something
The problem with 15 is you wont be able to fit the 2 grinders on the same lane as shred
Wait
Nvm
I cant count apparently
I have a "no sandflower powder wasted" policy
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937011559937486949/1497583167333335174/image.png?ex=69f0af82&is=69ef5e02&hm=d8f18fa7d655031a5b7dacf1079650acade9873afc38318fba792708b97f233c&
Ew
Sandleaf kinda overabundant anyways
Ngl the only issue i have with my xiranite design is it's hard to get 1/3 sandleaf out for other uses
what with that bottom pylon?
Yes and? Wuling credits are over abundant anyway
You sure? 
Sandleaf has literally no usecase besides like deliveries
And you only need 9k daily
The bottom farm next to it cant get power and i have zipline there next to the gate
need 8 powder for bats, then 20 powder for forges so we're left with 2 powder leftover which idk what to do with
I see a way already
i leave it as an exercise
20? It's just 7 forge for xiranite isnt it
when we get 4 more cuz we should have 12 next half of this patch
wish we had it sooner cuz i wanna make more heavy
Are you already doing the 7th forge switching every ~2 days?
Idk if i even have enough space
That gives you more
i havent set it up yet cuz i redesigned my entire factory twice
I'll have to fit 3 more xiranite forge in marker stone
im gonna remove some bat production for more hxiranite production during event
I doubt they will give enough stock bill increase exclusive to the event items that makes it worth shutting batt prod
We already know the trim condition is 20k heavy xira
And that's likely to be well beyond actual rewards cap
They'll increase outpost stockbill production aswell
leftovers get converted anyway so i might as well max production
Given how the event actual-rewards vs. trim criteria have been arranged for other things
if that sentence from the live stream still holds true
Pls no i dont wanna transfer HCV
trim is only 20k Hvy Xir?
Yeah
The xira jade gourd recipe chain is 1 heavy xira + 1 heto (bunch of subassemblies/facilities) + 5 yazhen liquid
dang, thats only gonna last a few hours
do we know how much the new product sells for
It's dragged out by the fact that it's a 10sec recipe
No
But I think it's a safe assumption that we're capped on rewards, lower than the 20k gourds
heard someone say the Xir gourd is 40 /shrug
Rewards meaning both the bonus stuff and the bills
You can check it for yourself on enkad
Wait what 1 per 10 secs?
6/min production
they add a special currency, increast the base stockbill production, and theres probably only a set amount of things to buy with the event currency
Yeah. There's some 20sec mixed in the subprocesses but they output 2
usual rate
^
No no i mean 1 hetonite and 1 xiranite for 1 event thingy?
divide by 2
That's super slow consumption rate
It's the normal for a prod2 facility
the fitting and moulding makes 2 product but its 20s for some reason
yeah, hearing the trim is 20k hvy when i've got almost 100k now 🙁
I sold them
i can only hope theres something i can just buy non-stop
I mean, what did we expect, the whole game has been casual-oriented so far
In terms of events and rewards
But yeah anyway even if you only set up one line, you're done with the event in under 3 days (if they don't time gate trade-in, which they probably will)
Now that i look at this it's quite similar to yaz A production, just need an extra packaging for the parts
its just a visual personal record thing. i'll get as many fruits as i can possible
I am making and shredding the Yahzen elsewhere so i can shove alot inside my empty markerstone
Just so disappointing that they don't let us keep it as a souvenir
Its just sad they all dissappear
No reason to flex full depot now lol

Imagine if they made a friendlist leaderboard for this like they did with the axehorn bowling balls and the spraywashing
i should be set for the thing anyway
Pls tell me, all my braincells are doing homework rn
You can probably shift that 1 middle shredder, rotate and shift up then reroute which lets you move the shredder up and place pylon under
Ah this one icic
two farms will remain powerless i think, can you not just shift a whole section up or do you want aligned grinders?
if you want i can fiddle with it if you send enkad
The bottom ones are probably fine cuz it is next to my water pumps
As for top right shredder, i can move it or shift around a gap to move a pylon outside this pic more left
when is next banner coming? why this banner is still 24 days

deja vu
or use a bp that looks similar
There will be a special banner which overlaps with this current banner and also has a separated gacha system
I wanted to make stuff pretty at the bottom half, negotiated with the spaghetti on the top right, then gave in by the time i tried to make the last 2 forges
like i was like "yeah 3 more hours for the same exact numbers is not worth it"
you made the 6-7wide xiranite layout yet?
whens the next banner
I do like the tidyup in the top-right 👍
the surplus sandleaf powder going into stash is amusing to me
When this version ends
So~ 5th june
Theres the rerum banner with gilb and lava on 14th may
also fyi there seems to be some buggy behavior with using three pipe splitters in series
I encourage design practice of using splitters to divide into halves
one of my previous iterations had three-series splitter out of conduit and the last two forge ended up water-starved
which is why I later introduced spaghetti to divide into halves before splitting again
Btw, do any of yall use the item control port? That thing feels obsolete to me
could be used in a makeshift priority splitter
yea 1 section of belt counts as 1 as well as the bridge
ignoring the line of ori chips

the belt for a tunnel directly against a building is 'free' correct?
theres technically no belt there
works for me
since it goes directly to the bridge
versions 2 and 3 of my battery/part factory
Perfect
experience from the hours spent compacting xiranite paying off
this design needs to be spread
i believe this optimized now for space and building count
Dat’s a big battery farm
cost of doing multiple things
this 50/50s making amethyst parts and ori chips with the batteries until those fill up and then switches into making max batteries
Bait used to be believable
WAIT since when did the reknown copper merchant become an endfielder
There's an issue arising in my factory and idk why
I have one cupriun which splits a sewage line into two into two crucibles and it is clogging my build
legitimately not bait just a weird way of doing things
U dont think there are business opportunities on talos ii? Where new factories grow, where industrialization is just taking baby steps
Have u considered splitting just 1 fitting unit between two battery machines and letting the other one go free
that can't ramp to 100% why the parts and chips finish filling the depot
i was also trying, seems topologically impossible w/o extra planter
ye 8 width is needed
factory event is out?
checkmate 
huh
thats a new one
you might be on top of PAC
they're chillin
Oh I got that message, it was cuz I selected outside the aic area
ohhh
How's your wuling catchup going?
pretty much done, I just gotta do all the story
Done the parts needed to make hetonite comps
Glad that you remember haha
Thanks, got a good laugh 
all of these are done ✅
Woo nice, good job!!
Amazed you found the checklist that fast HAHA I'd have no clue how to search that back up
I had forwarded it in a groupchat with my friends and had it pinned there HAHA
Also not that far down if you just search by wuling haha
Kinda off topic now but yeah-
Gotta head to sleep, gn!
should i half my sc production or fully stop it for the event tomorrow
you'll need just xiranite for the first part, then hvy xiranite and hetanite + some Yahzen
can't say for certain how much you need, ppl have mentioned how much but no clue where they got it from
the recipes been datamined is the reason why some people know.
both enkad and endfieldtools in the pinned message have them
as for needing to stop production, no one knows
depends on how much we need to produce to sellout the outpost stockbills
If you're recycling xiranite effluent from Xircon production, that does free up one Forge of the Sky for (extra xiranite output)
In the end, this was the result, I'm quite proud of it, lol
It's not as compact as some showcased here, but it gets the job done...
no clue about the numbers, but we'll for sure know soon
634,500 xiranite isnt alot, but you'll need to cut something somewhere
with just the ~23/m extra xiranite you'd need ~20 days to hit that number
I think I've squished this as much as I'm getting
~51 hours if you put 210/m xiranite toward it
~55 hours if you bank all Hvy Xiranite, if the 20k hvy xiranite for trim is correct
is this normal? I have 2 cuprium solution input and the factory still idles
2/s input?
okay one more improvement
what are you making there?
anyone see improvements i can make?
xiranite, planter standin for a forge while prototype
random mergers are depot ports
This is the most compact process isolated hetonite i can put together, i kinda like it
Passthru is so great
Expanded crucible the best
I dont like that im so cuprium constrained that efficient hetonite is mathematically impossible right now
boo expanded crucible
Wha, expanded cruc is the GOAT
just the reality we live in atm
new factory content should expand on what exists not render entire setups entirely obsolete

Its always a rebuild anyway when the next resource is released
It mostly compressed my Xircon setup, still using the framework/concepts from before to build it.
Yea xira effluent can be in one facility now
The property of the basic cruc having the limited slots that it has is actually kinda useful for some passthru setups
my issue is i spent hours compressing the previous xircon setup and planning for modularity so it could be spammed
Right, process isolation design is the best
or have sewage diverted
that setup is totally and completely obsolete because expanded exists
For me my rebuild was pretty trivial, just changing the xircon line to capture the inert effluent and integrate it to heavy xiranite
Hetonite was not as scary as I was expecting
in before they add water sandleaf and my new xinarite setup goes in the garbage too
Expanding my xiranite line was pretty easy since i also had that modularized
Carbon, stabilized carbon, sandleaf, all are contained
8 forges; 7 xiranite, 1 heavy xira
4 xira for xircon, 2 xira for heavy xira, 1 xira for components
The 3 xira for heavy xira is kind of a waste
Better recycling the inert effluent from xircon
Oh adapting this for me is gonna be easy too
Anyone know how to change water beds into different type? Ive seen some people change it but its not letting me dump unless its the same type of fluid.
Need a dump zone for heavy xiranite fluid
Your pit has to be completely empty before you dump a new fluid in it
If the pit is an infinite source then you cant change it
The only drainable and refillable areas i think is near the wuling city depot node
Havent checked if the acid pit near the new area is drainable
Like the entrance bit, not the one next to the subpac?
there are other small holes though
unlimited for both
Esh, tha k for the tip- i thought as much but wanted to doubke check b4 i make the hike.
theres others ways to dain liquid but need ferium make bottle make 1 zone stash relay then store the bottle containing liquid of then when your full just blueprikt the stash and delete it so it get send to void
Time to pack my bags i guess: gonna make an adventure out of this.
the spot with the big drain the ruins side quest has a 40k unit hole
there is a spot by main pac with 140
and everything else is rather tiny
I know there's the cave in wuling, but also on small spote in stock hold
And the rive near the wuling outpost
The reservoir east of the tp is drainable or no?
nope
Sad
infinite pool
At marker stone? No
there is actually an infinite pool of water at the bottom of the ruins
I checked all the close ones. This will be a bit of a hike for sure.
what are you trying to do?
Oh sonl you cant refill it after draining it.. that makes sense.
only spot theres dtainable is main wuling city and 1 stocakge which small sewage
you can refill the ruins
it was big meme in 1.0
mine is filled with 40k yazen
for the day we get a floodable arena
The one where the frog chest is? Thats where im headed i think or near the poo farm.
its buttom right of wuling who got drainages while at stockage its small zone at b uttom right again
the pools at the logistics depot are chanagble
The new area dared to constrain me with a 96 pipe limit, i was so mad
lol
Just add a splitter..
i only used 5 pipes rn + 3 from split
Only 5?
I must be doing something wrong
ops forgot + 6 +2 which from copper mine
It wasnt that i was dragging a very long line either, i just had a lot of piped production with like cuprium, xircon, hetonite
you making alot of stuff there than just pure teto?
Oh wait.. you hit some kind of new limit is what you're saying
Yea i got hit with the 96pipe limit while in the new subpac
Different from the 512 facility limit in the main aic
Im not sure if inlet/outlets count towards the pipe quota
Well.. i skipped sc battery's, and i also wanted heavy xanerite.. so i combined the process- every time i hit a needed resource i piped it to the right facility. But it was never enough so i had to add some.
it does since you be doing 2 pipe minimum instead of 1 if you do inlet outlet
you can put most those stuff at main pac since only stuff needed at that zone is teto who need yellow soda
Man I am feeling so very excited for the AIC event
Main zone is weird, its more of an experiment ground and main production line for me. Marker sone is the new gear component, heavy xine / fluid bottles & the sc battery black stone stuff. With everything being made on the spot - not pulling in from different areas.
4hrs left
I feel like a kid waiting to go on the roller coaster
Hopefully they go hard, they seem to be getting their footing down for a nice event like this.
I'm glad they are finally asking for non trivial amounts of stuff
more like max 20k i think... otherwise it is not worth trim medal
need sewage
Wat u making
xicorn
just use a 2nd crucible 👍
Ferrium goes to a different crucible. The expanded can only get you until xircon effluent
Technically you could do xircon inside but its not efficient
so i need a normal crusible and an expanded?
You need another Ex.Crucible to make what's lacking from the production
Yea, two expandeds into one normal cruc
just connect the pipe from refining cuprium straight up....
Water and sewage goes into expandeds, effluents come out and into the crucible
is that more efficient than just using 4 normal crusible?
It saves a bit of space and configuration headaches, but same production speed
must be those people using kyostin bp if suggesting that
The end result would look like this one @wicked wigeon
its save 50 power to
Oh yea i forgot abt that
I dont powerminmax so not much of an issue for me if it was a 200cost or 400cost process
- 1 sewage than 2
gonna have to rebuild this entire area
yup you want 2 xircon production for 12/m sc wuling battery production.
You can also skip using 2 purification units for each of them.
you can combine the 2 of them to 1 purfication unit to use on the heavy xiranite.
what is that pruification
oh yeah, doesn't Asia get events earlier? has the new event started yet
4hrs more
yeah, asia gets it much earlier
for eu its like 17 hours still if i recall
it should start at 19:00 central euro time (?)
NA/EU code: EFO010U96E8oUoi17E979
I think you're struggling a bit
See if this works for you
Needs a FoS tho
im on asia
RIP
Rip
also i dont wanna use prints
Good
Based hand assembler
Yep
👍
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you need to mKe the xianite and powder somewhere else
asia
That one looks pretty based, ngl
eye comfort
4hrs more i want my factory (turning to zombie from waiting)factoryyyyyyyy
It certainly looks comfy to look at
I dunno, I like producing things on the spot and directly feed it to the machines
i mostly only do seperate one when its more compressed than 1 go but i do 1 go most of time
I wonder how your Hetonite production looks like
compressed
Lol ok yea i hit that kinda fast, the inlet / outlets let you go a lot farther tho
just get the job done
I have accomplished complete process isolation
That's pretty interesting...
how much stash power is that 
Btw, would you like to know some forbidden knowledge?
Oh missed some other processes
im running at 5.5k
4.64k
yea these suck, i hate sandleaf but i would rather not have to bring v4 carbon tech to wuling
splitting xircon from effluent 
the real forbidden knowledge is that wuling plants refine into two carbon boxes
instead of one
modularitymaxxing
if want real forbidden knowledge
go refine originium amethys ferium etc then shred it then refine that shredded
circle of life
hidden 30 gains uwu and used
It's quite funny tho
i guess its a waterfree carbon system
Not gonna say that it's optimal, no
It's more efficient to do ziplines inside of the big cave at marker stone than it is to go over it
It's just in case you don't want your Xiranite production ending with the Grinding units
????????
This is the only place I can think of
Oh i havent zipmaxxed the new area yet, its kind of a chore
i need like 3 more zip limit in new area
Same, and just now I'm running out... of the basic ones from the HUB,lol
i have a full circut around the area
im at 4th team still got 50 to 100+rare mat of all type
Upgrading weapons from 20 to 60, I haven't farmed those rocks correctly in the past...
ahhh
i felt so dumb when i found out you can bomb the rocks
same
just jhin it
the time is very fast for rock
since we got mostly rock the maxed one
in planting
yeah i just farm the gold plants in dijiang now insted of doing the 2x weekly collection runs
went from .166 lc wuling battery and .55/m syringe c profits
to disabling both of them for 1.25/m sc wuling battery.
then used dige for .89/m battery usage.
so .36/m sc wuling battery profits
And am likely have to change everything in 12-16 hours anwyays 
well atleast I kinda get how dige works. I would not like calculating power drain then reboot/recharge constanly though, cool someone is maintaining that dige website that calculates it all
you're under 50% sc line so don't need 2 crucibles
yeah it's lazy method because I don't get how to reuse the xir effu
cause crucible doing all 3 wants sewage, water and xir effu
it just changes sewage input ratio from 5:5 to 3:5
oh wait so the xircon sewage byproduct is more than enough?
no that's input ratio not overall ratio
it's still 2:1 overall you can't change that
so still need to control swapping 3 liquids into 2 inputs
or 2 liquids in 1 input from the example hikarin showed
i did the 2 liquids in 1 input, sewage being splits a few times to get the exact %
I pray they don't add paint to this game, or if they do it's not as annoying as this 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429972513536081920/1498486501770657873/image.png?ex=69f155ce&is=69f0044e&hm=4ef4e7f6757f23d506bfc82a42c61e73573b6630f63462e84c5d5719076eeed1&
unexpected shapez
Is it that unexpected given where we are? 
We can expect more of Satisfactory or Factorio to show up here, lol
im just checking here with those who do wuling delivery, did they removed the technological production office route? because I haven't gotten that route since 1.2 and i do 4 delivery daily in wuling

just be happy you didn't get 4x yan ning
Has anyone done the math on material to stock bill value? copium from part to yaz A to heton follows around 10% increases, but is it worth making more heavy xirianite with forges and just using the originium to make LC batteries?
you've gotten her route since 1.2?
Well Shapez2 just hit 1.0 so...
yeah I've had every route
i haven't gotten hers since the patch so im just checking, thanks
i thought they removed her lol
sometimes you just get days without seeing one of them
Reminds me of the observation pictures where it took me like a month to get my last one
surprising you haven't seen at all in weeks though
yea im surprised too
I mean. Sure as long as it's related to cosmetics.
Is this good factory?
smart logistics units when
More ores when
Need 240 more originium ore per minute

Can I put cuprium in V4 depot so I can metatransfer it back to Wuling? 
Would be nice if metatransfer limit was increased to at least 1.8k per hour
.roadmap
oh deer
I was supposed to be stockpiling xiranite for the event, I accidentally clogged one of my xiranite productions when I was doing some changes and now im at 0
rip
I should look into this upcoming event and see what needs stockpiling and whether it even matters since every event in this game has been baby easy so far
Uh.. Xir or heavy one for event?
Im piling up heavy one..
both iirc
tbh maybe both for now just to be safe
I'm already at 50k+ hxir so I'm replenishing my normal xiranite
tho I am draining my cuprium reserves (30/min) to boost hetonite production
did 30/min instead of 60/min because 60/min would mean my reserves would drain before I get home from work
Me already dumping heavy to v4 coz over produced in wuling.
imagine
there's the normal gourd and the heavy xiranite groud you need both
Jade gourds not gonna be unlocked till later tho
it's the event item afaik
Well. Saving is nice coz if not, maybe need to stop heto or sc.. Need the xir for event.
If already stocking, no need to pause em
I stopped all teto part production to stock up on raw tetonite lol
im dipping into my lc battery and yazhen syringe reserves so I dont have to sell heavy xiranite in the 2nd outpost 
Me too, spending my syrA and sc reserves in v4..
letting my stockbills pile up since the gourds will reward stockbills too
ngl I think at some point I should stop selling stuff for a bit just to have reserves in V4
it's not like you still really need wuling bills once you've upgraded enough anyway
plus I already have this so I'm happy with it
Yass..
Kinda sad it looks like cheap sticker emoji.. T^T)
lmao
They can make a better baloon..
Asia gets the event in about 1h 45m, NA/EU in 3h 45m right?
think i may be dumb reading 12 wrong
What's the most efficient way to print Wuling batteries?
nah na/eu is 13h behind asia
12 is not 00
Per whole batch of 6/m multiplication?
what are all the . commands, isnt there one for update times?
use /acr list
.maint
this one?
I assume so
sorry i saw feet and choke.gif. I had to see
how do i power mining rigs in the lodesprinng region if there's no base?
i cant connect pylons anywhere
im not sure what im looking at, where is the base? i don't have one
the base would be in Originium Science park
and you build a power line into lodespring
wait you can drag pylons between regions?
Yep
Yess..
U can drag it even from main aic if wanna.. XD
Pains of Quarry back on release
Definitely returned to that place more times then i needed to.
Was a neat place, but man
Yea, and by the time you have your zipline set up there is.. no reason to return.. sadly. Helps with the last few links and chest you dont get while.. setting up your zipline.
Has asia server gotten the update already?
You guys used ziplines there?
You didn't?
recommend to scrap yazhen A line to go full hetonite for events.
also the xiranite component, to focus the xiranite into heavy xiranite for events.
Events?
.roadmap
AIC production events.
it will require lots of hetonite and heavy xiranite
how many required? only dat 2 mats?
not sure with the actual number.
for type, maybe other material will be required, but those 2 are the main focus.
wait, hetonite 🤔....its no need fitting unit right?
yeah, the raw hetonite, not the hetonite parts for mortar
Okie, got it 😌 👍
You just need like 20k anyway
And for the new parts making like 5kish components is enough rest you can artifice with older components
Everything else can go into the depot
o syet, didnt crafting components yet 😓
Right now since the event is limited just focus on making raw heto if you haven't made the components yet
You'll have to rearrange a lot of stuff if you wanna scrap yanzhen A
Too many pipes and you almost exclusively will need to be making it in main AIC, since sub AIC's have low pipeline limit
I guess that event has same ended date, on May14
Is the bureau of applied technologies in Wuling a new location or have I been completely blind?
I just stumbled upon it while walking around the city
added in 1.2
So. Event starts at reset? Or 12hours after?
and will I need originium/ferrum accidentally. Did math wrong and both are at below 1k rn
Oh good, maybe this was worth it.
Not to go off subject here.. but has anyone else noticed that the pylons look like the have mooninite face on it.
glad it wasnt just me
I wish they were happier
What are you guys filling your 40k hole with
They will be happy when they have stolen all of our xanerite and kicked us in the %$#@
I bottle my excess with in Cryston Bottles
hetonite solution
acid on day1 of 1.2
anyone else have issues with wuling aic using up too much cuprium / ferrium 
I'm I too poor to understand why anyone would do that
So I have to scrap my main AIC factory for the event?
Well, noones surviving that
Me over here traveling miles just to fill a 800.. heavy xanerite
you dont have to but you should
it'll be much more worth it than sc batteries i presume
I'm not, but i had Marker Stone free, thats where all my event factory will be
With the purification units tho we kinda have abundance of xircon effluent
I'm just pumping that in the hole
How do you guys all know how the event is going to operate? I'm assuming that's what most of this is about.
word of mouth for numbers but Enkad has the recipies so you can design factories or atleast see the recipies
They said sub units have limited pipe lines
Oh neat, i like going into with complete chaos and making it work.
I hate to waste inert xircon so...
mmm pipelines
oorr you could produce them in the same aic
Did i just hike past a dump site?
In the hydro rigs did you guys make a long pipe for the water?
yes
dump site?
I took mine all the way to stockade
you get stockbills + fancy cred
In the new outpost the pipeline limit is 96 yeah
oh no I just pipeline them to Wuling


I literally just finish doing this cause i didnt know where else to go and i wanted to keep my wuling build numbers down
Jade Gourds part of the event
Idk if I should insult by saying cheap
this is where pipeline to
Time to dump my 148k Xiranite
owh, not opened yet...
Okay will xiranite parts be obsolete once the event ends?
they'll all turn into bills
But are they more bill efficient than other xiranite stuff
they can be sold at first and second outpost
maybe disable heavy xiranite production temporarily and just sell gourds
aren't gourds made from heavy xiranite
no thats jade gourds
You need heavy xiranite to make the gourd parts tho iirc no?
phase 1 is purely xiranite
oh
Whaaaaaaaaaaa
got 60k left over anyway.... so, yeah, just waiting time

425k fancy credits for it all
The event is gonna be on server reset right?
should be 12hr from now for na/eu
425k / 10 credits pre Gourd, 42,300 gourds. If i didnt miss something
what's the recipe or each part of the recipe build time, like turning into part and bottle and the gourd process
15 xiranite per Gourd . . .634,500 xiranite
basically cut heavy xiranite production for gourds for phase 1
part and bottle are 1 pc per 2 second ?
Heavy xironite?
normal xiranite
Phase 1
600 oroberyl
10 Arms INSP Set
30 Protohedron
10 Protoset
120,000 Tcreds
20 Advanced Cognitive Carrier
8 Advanced Progression Selection Crate
Total: 423,000 Certs , 42,300 gourds
just use jade gourd when it is unlocked, to buyout phase 1
that a thing?
guess, back to turning on hetonite part during 1st phase, and turning it off 2 days before 2nd phase
Alright someone hit me with the best blueprint for Just the sub aic cardiac remediation station for all heto stuff please 😭 or if theres a video im not tearing down my other two aic that ive done from scratch so
if you produce 210/m Xiranite a day, you'll have enough xiranite to buy everything in 2 days
yeah but will you stop SC
going to turn off 1 sc line and reduce heavy xiranite speed by 50%
Oh so I can just sell xiranite and be done with it?
Gonna have to, 148k stocks only gonna get you so far
no you need to turn them into gourds
Just save it out as blueprints. You can easily rebuild it later
but you are basically replacing the SC batteries with the Gourd no?
anyway if you pause heavy xiranite production you'll have an excess 90/min xiranite which is enough to make 6/min gourds
which will finish phase 1 in 4.8 days
You guys didn't store liquid Xiranite to offset your Xiranite? 
can you show me a picture of just the outpost page
no because i stored 60k extra xiranite on proto stashes
no real need to go too deep into it
this?
How big is the new gourd prod? Can half the cardiac outpost handle it?
The only stuff you need out there are the cuprium fluid reactors > het reactor and possibly 2 xiranite lines unless you squeeze it into the core
its this big
Bruh lmao.
still fits in my all in one Main AIC
is that the only thing that's new atm lmao
Jade's just a lightly bit more complex, but its super simple
also
yeah its phase 2 thats a bit bigger
that's 40 stock bills?
id prefer a blueprint because the one i have that i thought was fine isnt upkeeping it
yes it also sells for 40 stock bills, so no reason not to pause heavy xiranite production
Bottles made of Xiranite and parts made of Xira ... Oops! All Xiranite!
or just a top down screenshot honestly
Welp, seems like I gotta put a stop on my xiranite comp prod then
because you can just sell that instead of heavy xiranite in the 2nd outpost
it'll take the place of your regular production so not a huge deal
Shamelessly copied from @subtle finch
slide it
it just seems to be decently efficient if you got xiranite stock 
This is my setup assuming we'll eventually support 100% of a het line instead of only 75%:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1497045549809926184/image.png?ex=69f15dd0&is=69f00c50&hm=906b241f3c1e7a909f11d7d0f88425da4e1f6b48dff4cdf3f866ad6a6f087c75&
My pipes are a lot more chaotic tho
how much do they produce of everything?
when does phase 2 start? halfway through event?
probably?
2nd week
You don't need every one of them to be expanded though only 2 of them
aye ty
So how many gourd prod should I do?
so yeah about halfway through event 
I like the aesthetic so 🤷♀️
Need to have 634,500 Xiranite and 43,500 gourds to get all he event goods, thats 2 days worth of Xiranite at 210/m
1,740,000 in stockbills
Damn should I stop everything and push all xiranite into gourd?
Hmm decision decision
no you can finish phase 1 in 4.8 days with a single packaging unit at 6/min
Hmm is this good or nah?
I'm gonna keep making batteries but stall heavy xiranite for gourds
isn't it until the 13th of may?
ah yes 20 days im dumb
lmao
imma just bottle my purified inert for the meantime
we dont even have the heavy gourds yet?
the question isn't how to clean the shop the question is how much more efficient it is per xiranite if we stockpile gourds so it can turn into bills after the event
Lads 
doesn't work like that
at 84/m gourds i'm going to need 1260/m xiranite with my stock of 148k i'll only last ~2 hours at that rate
no?
amazing factory event guys lets go, big content drop
gourds get auto converted once event ends
Yea lets halve the heavy xiranite prod, keep the battery at full prod, I can wait
yes, thats extra currency that isn't tied to outpost generation
Wait what do we need raw heto for then?
ho boy.
second week Jade Gourde needs it
3 xiranite demand...
the conversion is affected by current outpost stock no?
☝️ um actually. Belts can feed into any in-port. So having the first belt be straight saves you one belt.
it will only convert what's available left
so basically don't use event items on outposts unless you're gonna cap
So what’s a good balance
casue excess directly converts
can this clearout the outpost? or do I need to turn the hetonite into hetonite parts?
from the twitter post i read, it will only be converted to stock bills and event currency depending on what stock there is left
the remaining gourds that pass outpost limit will only be converted to event currency
Rn I’m running 2 lines of gourds but that’ll net consume my Xiranite
I’ve alr disabled my HXira line
U can clear the event shop in 4.5 days at 6/m gourd right?
aye
there is no 'depending on stock there is left'
Is gourd recipe even between xiranite bottle and chip?
Or double chips to bottle ratio?
all event items gets turned into stockbills until you reach the limit
need to see this



