aic-factory

[subtle axle]

I found something interesting about convergers as I experiment with them

If you do the converger line like this, it will funnel all the output into a single line

But if I were to remove that angle, it will funnel everything into the protocol stash

Not sure what logic makes it work like that but it's a good way to spill if a line gets clogged

[orchid patrol]

What is the max of batteries whe can actually do at wuling ?

[fervent lodge]

@subtle finch terrible news
i think they fixed sewage clog

you know what it does now?

[subtle finch]

since when?

also no

[subtle axle]

2 fabrics of SC 02 battery at full efficiency and 1 fabric of LC 01 battery at ~half efficiency with metatransfer

[fervent lodge]

it basically still produces 15/m as usual
but now it constantly changes which recipe runs first

oh wait no i'm dumb it's producing 7.5/m

yeah that tracks

god i need an alt, it's hard to debug with other production lines running

[subtle finch]

baseball huh

[orchid pilot]

see here for details, though I didn't know priority split mechanics occur with only a single converger at the output
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1476003772890218638

[subtle axle]

Nice, thank you.

[orchid pilot]

you can do partial SC with the metatransfer too, it's slightly more complex to setup and obviously more power hungry, but the bill difference is far more than the power difference

[subtle finch]

wth is fabric, ive never heard that term

[subtle axle]

factory*

[fervent lodge]

fabrika

or fabrik if deutsch

[subtle finch]

maybe a regional thing

[subtle axle]

fabric as in fabrication

[subtle finch]

production is more common i think

[orchid patrol]

for the 2 fabrics of SC 02 won't sa take 480 originum / min ? I only have 360/min. Did i forget 1 mineral node ?

[subtle axle]

ye it will take the full 480 orig input

You probably are missing originium mine somewhere

[brisk palm]

Omg, since when does it give you 3! Lmao: I have so many plant factories.

[earnest pier]

uhhhh for some reason Im having some problems

Im trying to produce Hetonite parts for gears but they keep on stopping

this is using Kystin blueprints

[lost belfry]

Batteries been ruining my entire week, as usual. How do I make this one more compact?

[brisk palm]

You stop using purple batteries. Imo they aren't worth it.

[orchid pilot]

not familiar with the blueprint but how did the fluid dump manage to clog itself??

[earnest pier]

its not dispencing the acid back into the acid lake for some reason

I swear I followed every instruction wtf ?

wait wtf how did this get in here ???

[orchid pilot]

does it persist if you delete the dump and replace or rearrange it? very strange

[brisk palm]

I had this happen a bunch of times, was always a disconnected pipe somewhere

[earnest pier]

how did the red liquid got mixed into the acid wtf ?

ok there we go

wtf how did the red liquid got mixed in the acid ?

[orchid pilot]

I recommend taking a look at this message. You don't have the ratios matched to the recipes, so that line is going to be underproducing by a lot. Should be two originium into shredders per dense ori line, two ferrium into refiner/shred to grind, and two of that whole steel chain and 3 of the whole dense ori chain going into the packaging unit.

[lost belfry]

Gimme a moment, doing package delivery right now

[orchid pilot]

oops forgot to drag the message down

this one, responding to someone's picture / questions with similar factory setup in wuling

[iron stratus]

you routed the wsrong output of the purifier there

also why would you just dump the acid instead of reusing it

[earnest pier]

portion of it is already reused

also this is Kystin blueprint so idk

[iron stratus]

of course it is

always doing some weird stuff

[subtle finch]

.knownt

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[earnest pier]

I recommend use Kystin mega battery factories blueprint to produce batteries

[pulsar willow]

You don't control the outputs of purification unit, it's set

Yellow port is good stuff

Orange port is byproduct

Probably when you mixed them up

[lost belfry]

Never heard of that one

[pulsar willow]

Some of the orange liquid got stuck and couldn't be processed

[earnest pier]

uhhh hold on lemme link it to you

[earnest pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPuI134JMJo&list=PLNgrku2z_iBkcEVtYN5F6gA5-8AbglNO5&index=5
guides and blueprints are in the desc

it has everything so just copy and paste and make sure you got the facilities needed

[leaden drift]

I started making wuling stuff in V4

[iron stratus]

i feel like that isnt possible

or very painful at the least

[earnest pier]

the mega transfer will be a massive bottleneck

[pulsar willow]

What's the reason for reusing it if you are going to need a second pump for full production, which means you need to dump it anyway

Unless you use it for something else like liquid heavy xiranite (I don't need more than 10K bottles).

[iron stratus]

do supply units not use power

[pulsar willow]

They do

[iron stratus]

so dumping it is a waste of power

[pulsar willow]

Okay so, hear me out

[leaden drift]

so i transfer over extra xircon and filled bottles

its better than trying to do it the other way

[iron stratus]

how

[leaden drift]

manually

as long as it doesnt use liquid

it can be made in V4

[nova osprey]

if you want to use it without dumping it you have to make a priority port which allows the purified acid to be used first, otherwise it will clog and mess up your machine

[pulsar willow]

For full prod you need 180 units of acid, which results in 45 of byproduct. Even if you recycle it back, you will need a constant 15 acid more. There is no reason not to dump it unless you use these 45 somewhere it won't clog.

[nova osprey]

mmm

a limiter for acid

i suppose you could save 10 power that way

[pulsar willow]

Ah yes it's a thing

[nova osprey]

it's still annoying to do xD

but yeah idk

[pulsar willow]

Well, can't be bothered. I have spare power, so I will just dump it

[nova osprey]

same here

how much power are you using for wuling rn

[pulsar willow]

Almost at the limit, 4.96K/5K

[nova osprey]

aye i see

[pulsar willow]

I can place a cuprium component crafting and it will be dot to dot 5K/5K

[nova osprey]

xD

[fervent lodge]

so i went to retest your setup in game and the clog condition is no longer true

they fixed the 100% fail state of the reactor in a yesterday patch it seems

because the day before it clogged, and now it just starts no matter which ingredient you take out first

lmao

[deft orbit]

brother I'm telling ya, it's been working fine since 1.2 release xD

[fervent lodge]

i'll have to change the planner

[fervent lodge]

no, your setup did

but they elminated the phase case where it didn't

i've explicitly tested all 3 just now

none clog

lmoa

[nova osprey]

yeah i remember there were clog issues earlier

[fervent lodge]

i even had a "turboclog" where it can clog on water, sewage AND effluent

and now it just works

[nova osprey]

lovely

[fervent lodge]

good for them

what they changed is basically it now skips the recipe it can't react, reacts the two remaining if it can, then the phase autoadjusts based on what was skipped

before that it was fixed, so if the first recipe could not run, the two other ones also locked up

at least that's what i see changed

[deft orbit]

and what was the build that triggered the clog?

[fervent lodge]

you preload the sewage to full, then give other ingredients

it won't start doing anything until you clear out the sewage

another fail case is it would do the other recipes but won't do the sewage one, clogging on effluent instead

now all of those cases work

[nova osprey]

it was an issue with the expanded reactor crucibles where some of the materials were needed to feed into itself, iirc

[keen river]

for most cases

[nova osprey]

yeah

[keen river]

if you underfeed the xiranite

it would always clog

[deft orbit]

well.. you don't underfeed xiranite xD

[nova osprey]

no that's just for xiranite

[fervent lodge]

that's one of the clog conditions

[deft orbit]

you give one 30/s to each cricuble

[nova osprey]

that's not the only issue

[fervent lodge]

underfeeding xiranite clogs on the second recipe

overfeeding sewage clogs on last

etc

[keen river]

yeah

there are more cases

[fervent lodge]

now i need to change the planner to reflect the recipe skip...

[nova osprey]

in any essence just having a lot of those things occur at once caused issues for factories that should have worked, but didn't due to the way how priority was sorted

[keen river]

you cant really control that because there are no priority unloaders/belts

[tough berry]

do clog only happens on solo crucible 2 expanded dont clog right? since it just right for 1 treatment

[nova osprey]

it doesn't happen anymore, or so it would appear

they fixed it

[keen river]

it happens with various setups

[deft orbit]

I just remember setting up to each the 30/s xira, the 15/s FE dust, connecting water to each and then conecting both crucibles with a sewage.
Crucible A got to 50 water, xira and Ferrium, once crucible B gets cloged on swage that come both from self and from crucible A, crucible A started to work normaly. and that's it.

[inland epoch]

woah didnt even realize it could go this low

[keen river]

i used the Algo's design with 4 crucibles + forge and it would clog if underfeed

hopefully its fixed now

[tough berry]

dang all my wiring on single now not usefull anymore then to make sure it wont clog

or drained

[nova osprey]

my setup with 4 crucibles and forge does not clog, but in the case it does i have an extra water treatment plant + extra feed sewage to make sure it won't clog

I was told by another member here that the crucibles are reliable now

[pulsar willow]

How can you even underfeed the forges

If we have a surplus xiranite

[nova osprey]

i think they mean the way how belts work slightly slower

offline

[keen river]

for example by crafting lower level armor components for artificing

[nova osprey]

or idk

ah nvm

[tough berry]

that offline

[keen river]

and this exhausting your xiranite supply

[tough berry]

fixed

[nova osprey]

right component splitting

[tough berry]

before 1.2 came

[nova osprey]

ohhh nice

[tough berry]

i was having headache of that slowdown befoee

[pulsar willow]

That's a problem of not managing your supply properly

[tough berry]

dojng double hole and no con split bridge etc on my setip so it stays smooth 12 lel

[nova osprey]

oh the old one? where every machine seemed to be slowing down?

[tough berry]

ya

[sonic summit]

oh it SHARED with whole wuling city map i tought only near wuling aic

[nova osprey]

that was because of the crucibles being bugged

again

lmaooo

[tough berry]

lol

[nova osprey]

i remember that too

i was getting so annoyed back then

[tough berry]

crucible being bugged guess common senses now since alchemy allways bugged stuff ahahaha

[fervent lodge]

to be fair

i also spent an ungodly amount of time doing logic overrides for the reactors

so i think they also got tripped up on the same things

[nova osprey]

yeah lmao, that's why i don't do mega bases

i'll split my factories evenly

[keen river]

man, i wish this limit was like twice higher

[nova osprey]

or at least semievenly

[sonic summit]

welp

[tough berry]

image then making mega crucible

[keen river]

there is absolutely no reason for it to be so insanely low

[tough berry]

with 16 slot

that be more hellish to fix bug on

[nova osprey]

im okay with less spaghetti

[keen river]

i wonder when we will get first recipe

[nova osprey]

xD

[keen river]

with 3+ inputs

[sonic summit]

time to move my 6 forge of sky then

[nova osprey]

[tough berry]

do note 6 is perfect setup in tangtang place lel if 7 your left with 1 sandleaf

[sonic summit]

oh any blueprint ? on tang tang

[nova osprey]

there's a bp with 7 forges

for subpac

[tough berry]

try ppl here they got one

[sonic summit]

nah just 6 ois good

1 is alternating with making extra heavy xira every 6 days

[nova osprey]

honestly though the person who did 7 forges in one subpac is crazy

[nova osprey]

why alternating with making extra heavy xira

[tough berry]

well dylan addicted to compression

[nova osprey]

xD

[sonic summit]

i do 2 hc lines in a subpac oripark barely enough output unloader

[nova osprey]

[tough berry]

rolls wish tommorow come soon i want tome skipper ability

i want the event uwu

[nova osprey]

i want the new factory event too

[tough berry]

our first ever real factory event uwu

[nova osprey]

ikr

i also want my first dose of ptsd in endfield

ptsd in arknights was a lot of fun

[tough berry]

they shpuld made endfield event 80% factory since game 80% factory

[nova osprey]

they would never xD

too many casual gacha players lolol

[tough berry]

nah i rather not suffer my 3rd cc beta ptsd

its allways the first cc allways the hardest

[nova osprey]

true true

[tough berry]

i freaking even making this char fully artificed with treatment just to prepare for no item and low sp regen since rest of healer need sp for heals

rolls away and busy my self so tommorow comes sooner goodlh k evia on cc to thats coming uwu

[vivid walrus]

After all this, it'sjuat2-3/min heavy xiranite🥹

[nova osprey]

ah yes defenderknights

[nova osprey]

what's going on here

[vivid walrus]

Something, atleast

[nova osprey]

bet

btw you can take the inert xircon effluent from your battery lines and turn them into the regular kind

[vivid walrus]

Sadly, ido not make that

[nova osprey]

also the forge on the top left is only getting 30/min refined carbon not 60/min refined carbon

[nova osprey]

you're not making sc batteries? what are you making then

[vivid walrus]

Heto parts on the top right

[vivid walrus]

So i must do it like the bottom right?

[nova osprey]

sort of, you're converging two refineries which just limits your 60/min to 30/min

your right side seems to be having problems too

[vivid walrus]

It produces so fast btw

[rocky niche]

more factory event!!

[nova osprey]

also hetonite parts shouldnt affect making batteries, unless you're doing all in for heavy xiranite idk

[vivid walrus]

It's on the marker stone area that Inbuilt it

[nova osprey]

i see a few missing items on the belts

[vivid walrus]

The battery will be at base

[nova osprey]

[vivid walrus]

Sandleaf?

[rocky niche]

is her heal not needing sp?

[nova osprey]

oh your two grinders on the left aren't getting enough carbon either

and you have an extra shredder on the right side

[vivid walrus]

Oh that, iaccidentally cut the belt earlier

[nova osprey]

her heal is from her CS

not her skill

her skill returns sp too so in the event we need to block a very heavy hit like patriot i think she would be good

[rocky niche]

so her gear is the one that reduce combo skill duration then?

[nova osprey]

probably yeah

for maximal healing

though idk how strong it is

all my operators should be level 60 at minimum before cc comes so i should be okay

[fervent lodge]

@deft orbit your factory should work now

[deft orbit]

in the enka editor?

[fervent lodge]

did the same thing they did (from what i see, can't say for certain of course)

yeah

[deft orbit]

naisu

[fervent lodge]

i added recipe autorotation
it grabs the first recipe that can succeed and then sets it as the first one to run

it just autoaligns and everything works

[nova osprey]

btw you know why my factories in enkad, involving crucibles, never seem to work in enkad?

always says clogged

is it assuming prepatch where they clogged before?

[deft orbit]

I sill don't know why my factory that has been working for me since day 1 (with or without swage pre-load) didn't work for you xD

in-game I mean

[fervent lodge]

well we explained

timing differences

depends entirely on when it started and what is clogged or not

[fervent lodge]

they should now

[nova osprey]

perfecttt

[fervent lodge]

we can finally retire the

[nova osprey]

lucky ig

[nova osprey]

lmaooo

[fervent lodge]

and stop telling people to feed only 15/m of sewage or split the xiranite

[nova osprey]

wait are you the dev of enkad?

[vivid walrus]

Wha

[rocky niche]

i only have 4 characters lvled, the rest are either lvl 1 or lvl 20
does cc need at least lvl 60 like in umbral

[nova osprey]

enkad's discord link goes to alg's dev env

alg is short for algoinde - at least that's what i inferred

[fervent lodge]

i mean just click my bio kekw

[nova osprey]

joining the server says they are owner

xD

and yeah i could have just done that i guess

[keen river]

the least hidden secret

[nova osprey]

jesus big dev here damn

[fervent lodge]

hey i'm not big

i do exercise but not that much!

[nova osprey]

lmaoo

[fervent lodge]

anyway finally can go to sleep

reactors had been the source of at least like 5 bugs so far

hate that shit

[nova osprey]

goodnight

[nova osprey]

ikr lmao

[fringe owl]

The liquid mixers cant run 2 of the same recipes at the same time right

[uneven aspen]

tyvm

am curious if this is true in-game though. I will try the easiest test of going 50 sewage on my xircon crucible which failed before

[vestal egret]

I know it prob wasent the best idea to use the blueprint from KyoStinV without understanding it 100%, but I rly wanted to set up a temp component farm for Fangyi. Can anyone tell me whats wrong here since everything is clogged etc?

[subtle finch]

i actually noticed a decrease in clog reports yesterday, felt weird
i have a suspicion they ninja patched it too

[uneven aspen]

hmmmm it failed, unless im reading your patch notes wrongly 😔

[subtle finch]

dump that back to the pool using supply unit

[vestal egret]

You are a godsend, thank you so much

[uneven aspen]

yup still need to prevent sewage from being at 50 before starting the xircon crucible

if it's under 50 it runs fine

[subtle finch]

i wanted to believe too, they said they tested multiple layouts

[sonic summit]

lol this thing is connected

[keen river]

where have you even read that they fixed somethin

i dont see anything in patch notes

[subtle finch]

yeah, nothing in the patch notes, alg just tested it

[brisk palm]

Is there a time limit, or reset on item control ports? I want to use them but i want them to turn back on.

[subtle finch]

none, they're only good for filters, or temporary setups

[keen river]

no, you need to reset them manually

they are only really uesful for stuff like making 1k crafting materials but even then that kinda fails at its job

[brisk palm]

Damn

[keen river]

their only real use case is unloading particular items from mixed protocol stash

[brisk palm]

I have so many uses from them is they just turned back on

[keen river]

and that is like suuuper fringe use case

[pulsar willow]

All hail perlifumo

[fervent lodge]

all recipes clogged -> can't find a candidate

[lofty lodge]

Finally, THE Chubby Lung

[fervent lodge]

take any of these out and it starts working

[pulsar willow]

Zhuang Fangyi drooling in the corner

[rocky niche]

big

[uneven aspen]

what to do with 3/m dense powder?

[subtle finch]

why do you have 3/m

[uneven aspen]

LC wuling battery to thermal

[subtle finch]

do sc instead, it's worth the trouble

[uneven aspen]

hmm true I can try out this 3/min one

the 6/min been working fine

[subtle finch]

just do this

[ruby sorrel]

3/min wha

[uneven aspen]

11/m ferrium syringe C and 30/m cuprium syringe A

i foolishly have this ready for the next area . . . but thinking about it i doubt we need to make 60/min more xircon

or sc wuling battery since we already max using the originium

[subtle finch]

i can't berlieve they didn't give this for free smh

[rocky niche]

from paid bp?

[subtle finch]

just there on the shop

[ionic pollen]

i'm maxing out my xircon anyway

[tough berry]

nah its mostly will + pure hp treatment her heal rn not yet maxed at 800 burst + 200 heal per 3 sec

[shadow void]

Well, you definitely aren't one of these ppl

[rare moon]

stockade farm

[shadow void]

Too bad you cant sell Sandleaf

[upper fiber]

sell the powder

[pulsar willow]

wdym didn't

Is this a joke

[hoary crag]

my friend it's just $1 lmao

[shadow void]

Either the frame or the picture is behind the $0.99 purchase

[hoary crag]

plus we get one pull as well

[hoary crag]

noice

[pulsar willow]

Ah

The lunch money bundle with 1 pull

Yeah I forgot it actually costs something lol

[subtle finch]

it's supposed to celebrate the satellite launching, it should be free

don't care hm it costs

[hoary crag]

now to think of it, didn't they say we're supposed to be able to see where our usernames are physically placed on the model?

or are they still working on it probably due to how many people registered for it

[fervent lodge]

isn't it for the kid space charity thing

the name thing is not done yet

[brisk wasp]

are ya'll able to fully drain both wuling outposts of their stock bills?\

[ancient charm]

Test area is live?

[ancient charm]

Yes

[ancient charm]

A single buck

Glory to hypergryph

[rocky niche]

no

[brisk wasp]

which is it really

[rocky niche]

they could clear outpost, but i cannot

since my factory isnt optimized yet

[shadow void]

Yes, just the 12/m SC batteries and either the 6/m Hvy Xiranite or the 4/m Hetanite Parts puts you well over what the outposts produce

[brisk wasp]

guess i'l doing something wrong here considering i can just barely drain one

[shadow void]

the SC batteries at 12/m produces like 35k, while outposts produce 46k,

[pulsar willow]

There are fluctuations due to the chances of doubling the stocks.

[quartz pagoda]

isnt it always 20%?

[shadow void]

not mine but something to go on

thats old btw with lvl 1 new outpost

[pulsar willow]

Yeah but said 20% chance can be more frequent for some people I think

[shadow void]

its ~46k now what the outpost produces

whats your power usage like?

[pulsar willow]

It wouldn't be as unclear for me if we, for example, had a set 20% increase to the obligations and not a "chance".

[brisk wasp]

wait so if i just disable hetonite component production considering the only thing its being used for right now is Zhuang Fangyi gear, i should be able to drain outpost stock right?

[rocky niche]

do you still create yazhen or nah?

[shadow void]

No thats old

[pulsar willow]

You can drain it while making the components as well

[ancient charm]

good luck to whoever out there refreshing for wuling depot

[shadow void]

Hetanite production is just slightly better than Yazhen A

[quartz pagoda]

with tens of thousands of "20% chances" it basically becomes a hard 20% increase.
The larger the sample, the closer you get to that precise 20%

[fringe owl]

behold, rectangle

[pulsar willow]

Yeah I understand that the bigger the number of "chances" the closer it is to the average.

[quartz pagoda]

yeah and you have tens of thousands of bills, each one with a 20%

the variation should be subatomic

[rocky niche]

where you got this?

[pulsar willow]

Still has room for fluctuations 🙂

Even if it isn't as big

[shadow void]

Its a picture from this discord its not mine, but my setup is basically the left side

[pulsar willow]

I am just asking why they didn't make a set increase instead

I would think it's easier to calculate but I am not a developer so there is that

[quartz pagoda]

is not just "not big" is extremely low, small decimals
but yeah, there is a quantum level variation, so you are right
👏 👏 👏

[quartz pagoda]

they did

its 20%

[pulsar willow]

Brother you understand what I am talking about

[quartz pagoda]

yeah

and whats worse

[pulsar willow]

No need to be this salty

[quartz pagoda]

you get what im talking about

[rocky niche]

i found similar in this channel

[quartz pagoda]

you know the math, you know how it works and how it affects the final number as an almost 20.000..% and yet are asking for "hard increases"

like

eh?

[pulsar willow]

Yeah and what is wrong with it

I am not whining about it, just asking why they did what they did

[tough berry]

????

[quartz pagoda]

"why did they did this instead of that, it would make the calculations so much easier"
both this and that having the exact same result

[ruby sorrel]

because we don't have fractional stockbills

this is literally the easy way to do it

[pulsar willow]

Thank you!

[quartz pagoda]

jesus

[pulsar willow]

Finally someone who understood!

[shadow void]

Yeah, I'm making 13.25 SC batteries and banking all of it because i'm importing HC valley batteries. Meaning i make 42k off that and only need to sell 4k of something else to deplete the outpost bills

[unique nova]

Ive been doing the 24/m sc batts to cover everything and extra stock till i get 60k of the new components lol

[leaden drift]

im loving the purifier

[tough berry]

hrmm is the sc battery we have enough since we got extra 5 xircon ? which we can use in valley ?

just for pure sc battery selling for 2 outpost

[shadow void]

Believe we had this convo yesterday, but you're manually transfering materials over to Wuling from V4 right?

[leaden drift]

you can make SC batteries in V4

if u manually move it over

[tough berry]

ya did that

[leaden drift]

im doing ht at now too

only so much dense ori in wuling

[tough berry]

i mean is the bill enough allready if you include v4 for pure sc battery selling except if you use sc as power

[unique nova]

Yea, i cut 1 battery in valley and used the orig dense to transfer over

[tough berry]

you dont have to actually cut it

[orchid pilot]

you're eventually running out of v4hcs though, right?

[unique nova]

I was overproducing in valley so everything was being used

[shadow void]

Is it better to transfer the orginium over to Wuling or xircon over to V4 then move the SC bats back over

[quartz pagoda]

why not metatransfer?

[tough berry]

just do split at end of 1 originium 2 of split on bat while 1 at outpost which 10 pc per min same woth ferium you use to make that bat just wire 1 so you got powder to

[orchid pilot]

curious where you're at - I was OK eating 3 banks of v4HC last patch but this patch 4 banks is clearly draining the stash

[tough berry]

it just make it 5 bat per min than 6

[shadow void]

Just thinking in number of manual transfers

[ruby sorrel]

do ppl just enjoy manual transfers or something

[tough berry]

both

[unique nova]

Meta is too slow to keep up with the extra zircon i was making

[tough berry]

ypu stick to 13 at wiling

wait 6 days or 1 week

transfer xircon to valley

run sc battery for 1 day at v4

[shadow void]

Yeah, Meta is how you get that extra 1.25 SC battery in the 13/m setup

[orchid pilot]

13.25 is completely consumable in wuling alone

[tough berry]

then off it and return your v4 to normal

[leaden drift]

im doing this right now....

[orchid pilot]

with that you could go well beyond 13 if you choose to give up your v4 stock bills (or convert v4 into medicine lines only to conserve the dense ori)

[tough berry]

only works if you dont put limiter on your ferium + originium cube

[leaden drift]

not the most optimal but its working

[quartz pagoda]

try this:
Bottle the Xircon (or just send solid Xircon) > Sent it to V4 > Make the batteries there > send the bottle backs.
No manual transfer

I wanted to do something similar with water for my plantation but i cant place Pipes in V4

[shadow void]

If you can make 14.5 SC batteries atm, thats enough to outpace Wuling outposts

[tough berry]

which your stuck 13.5 at wuling while needed weekly transfer of ferium powder and originium

[meager stream]

xircon 94/m yield 💀🗿

[unique nova]

Im confused, arent u still manual transfering the zircon back n forth?

[leaden drift]

clearing out my bottles

[orchid pilot]

you can't auto transfer out of wuling

(yet)

[quartz pagoda]

is not metatransfer but its... automatic?
sned solid xircon > make batteries in V4, that way you have all the Dense Ori you need > send the batteries back to Wuling

[quartz pagoda]

a

[tough berry]

you consume 60040 ferium dust btw per week and 50400 per week that way

[ruby sorrel]

do you really need to stockpile so much stuff though it's already well over outpost generation without all this trouble

[quartz pagoda]

greed

[tough berry]

seeing 68k is nice uwu

[quartz pagoda]

corporate greed

[shadow void]

And i'm over here stocking up on Xiranite, Hvy Xiranite, and Hetanite for the event. . .

[lusty violet]

im already tired after my full time job

[quartz pagoda]

me busy trying to buy Gear Artificing stuff

[tough berry]

my heto maxed 68k now im 20k away from maxed heavy lel

[leaden drift]

can we send stuff from wuling to v4 with regional transfer yet or no?

[tough berry]

while we only need might be 40k heavy 20k heto

[orchid pilot]

the medal trim condition is already in-game

[tough berry]

not yet yusha

[ruby sorrel]

it's not like making more than outpost can buy increases your stockbills

[orchid pilot]

it's 20k heavy and 20k heto for event medal trim (which presumably is far beyond what's needed to drain the actual rewards)

[leaden drift]

damn

[unique nova]

I hate components so i craft 60k of each and get rid of them permanently

[leaden drift]

it would have been nice

[tough berry]

theres another mat to make goaurd thats green to

so thinking we need 2 tham 1

[orchid pilot]

the recipes are all in enKAD

[shadow void]

Maxed Heta and regular Xiranite in V4 and almost in Wuling, only around 70k total Hvy Xiranite tho

[orchid pilot]

you can go look at recipe browser (hotkey L) by searching "xira"

[leaden drift]

One of my SC battery set ups

i need to make more heavy xiranite

[tough berry]

nice my valley only stored maxed sc bat now consuming it since tryint to max out my heavy and heto cant use for selling

[leaden drift]

havent really gottent arround to making it beetter tho

[shadow void]

143k Xiranite, 65k Hvy Xiranite, and 103k Hetanite. Plus i'm running up my stockbills in the outposts to drain for the event

[tough berry]

nice

i gonna try drain it to ahahah

and try dtain event in day 1

if theres no lock

[shadow void]

101k SC batteries

[unique nova]

What do u need for the event

[orchid pilot]

I mean, at 20k, if there's no lock, any of us who prepared can drain it

[orchid pilot]

@unique nova

[shadow void]

No clue, it'll be crafting Xiranite Gourds and Jade Gourds, mostly with Xiranite and Hetanite

[tough berry]

problem is some of us use heavy for selling

[orchid pilot]

there's also lower level gourd but we're swimming in normal xiranite anyway

[orchid pilot]

🤷 then stop for a bit so you accumulate it

[shadow void]

Over prepping for sure

[orchid pilot]

like A_Z I've been stocking up

didn't bother with regular xiranite or hetonite since those pile up quickly anyway

but I'm at >100k heavy

[tough berry]

nah not me km prepared ahahah

[shadow void]

I've got a setup to craft 24/m Jade Gourds and 48/m Xiranite Gourds

[unique nova]

ok, i have a stock of xiranite in valley that i tucked away before the update guess i'll start sotcking heto

[shadow void]

when it comes out

[sonic summit]

FINALY 6 forge in tang tang place

[tough berry]

hrmm shpuld i push in xianite to valley since xianite does make 31

than 30

base on when i login i see before 124 at 10mins

at 1.1

grats xlist on freedome

[unreal crater]

Is it possible to fit 8 forges in 1 outpost?

[orchid pilot]

I felt the same way when I finished my 6 setup, only to find that there's a 7 forge design (that's also visually much cleaner than mine was LOL)

[tough berry]

but 7 need stash

[orchid pilot]

not with onsite farms

if you pull some stuff from depot, sure

[sonic summit]

nah i just want 6 cus the last one is on main pac that i use to make heavy xira every 4 days

[tough berry]

can but you reduces the process

[orchid pilot]

you can tell from the sheer density here that there's just no way to fit an 8th

[tough berry]

like you just use some depot bus of sending sandleaf

[unreal crater]

wdym? like, it's not 210/min?

[tough berry]

thats reduce 3 factory space each

[orchid pilot]

yeah I took fruit's and pulled out the last forge, just feeding the stab carbons to aic

so I can leave the swapping forge in main

[tough berry]

i mean you reduce the process

[orchid pilot]

do more operations offsite, they mean

e.g., the farms

[tough berry]

not the income

[unique nova]

i always split my mats production, tho i see everyone likes just making 1 big thing start to finish

[tough berry]

cause big space saving

if 1 go

[unique nova]

we have so much space to work with tho haha

[orchid pilot]

and because it's pretty set-and-forget for the xiranite lines

[tough berry]

only yhing i got seperate process now though the 4 xircon farm since its more easy to setup them in 1 area seperate

[sonic summit]

i wonder what should i use this space for ?

[orchid pilot]

like xlist pointed out, currently we need to pull one skyforge out of the outpost, but once we expand to 12, that 7 forge outpost just sits untouched forever

[pulsar willow]

Component crafting

[unique nova]

how do you do the max zoom out thing where u see the whole base

[sonic summit]

already did

[tough berry]

i think its for pc console only

cant find it atobile that max zoom out

[unique nova]

im on pc

[pulsar willow]

Either a stitched up bunch of screenshots or an enka planner

[sonic summit]

space left rn :

[pulsar willow]

https://enkad.enka.network/

[pulsar willow]

Make cuprium parts or hetonite parts there

[sonic summit]

already done in marker pac

[pulsar willow]

Draw a smiling face

[sonic summit]

[pulsar willow]

I've seen people draw

So I made it too

[unique nova]

sushi belt full of fertilizer

[shadow void]

My marker stone is filled with the Gourd factory

[tough berry]

you can make goard now?

[pulsar willow]

Is the event already up in asian servers?

[shadow void]

No, just prepared

thats the 24/m Jade part

[tough berry]

so whats the formula

[pulsar willow]

Ok I will see to it later then, don't want to spoil myself some good building lol

[unique nova]

where do you get the recipes?

[shadow void]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=z9v6R6f3e9s7H7

[unique nova]

what is this gonna be used for?

[shadow void]

shredding the Yazhen elsewhere and you can fit in 48/m Xiranite Gourds at the top

[tough berry]

you cant use another powder?

[shadow void]

upcoming event

[unique nova]

i mean aside from that

are these meds?

[shadow void]

the recipe atleast on enkad calls for Yazhhen

[tough berry]

its pure event

[unique nova]

ohh

[tough berry]

ahh

sadge cant use double powder juice combo

[shadow void]

THey'll basically take the place of, or be sold alongside other things to outposts

for a special currency

speculative ofcourse since the event isnt out and no other details than a ss from i think the last dev log?

[unique nova]

i wonder how much left is of wuling, felt like the story is already done with the area

[tough berry]

its the adier dud left

[shadow void]

imo 2 areas, Test Area and North Exculsion Zone

[orchid pilot]

the exclusion zone sounds much larger in scope though (my impression from how it was described in story)

[tough berry]

or what i call might be the maid girl in ak on krej area lel

[shadow void]

Arcane is still asleep, and no word on what Ardashir is up to

[unique nova]

god i hope we don't get even more components

[tough berry]

i want 1.3 to come

i want my unlimited poop

[shadow void]

I dont think we will, atleast if they copy what Valley IV did

[tough berry]

meta transfer poop uwu

[unique nova]

lol, i haven't touched farming since i got the trimmed stuff on the first month of the game

[shadow void]

6 parts, 6 comps, 5 batteries, 3 from V4, so just missing a battery

HC Wuling will be imo, either Hvy Xiranite itself or a process form of it plus possibly a further refinement of Originium

[tough berry]

its good stuff onces we in new regiowe can start farming 500 powder fast and off it forever

[unique nova]

what powder?

[tough berry]

the 20% hp heal

thats unique for the rare mat of basic potion

[shadow void]

Thorny Yazhen Powder?

[unique nova]

ohh, ngl ive been using yahzen powder since we got to wuling lol

never seemed to have a need for big heals

[shadow void]

been using Thorny, but yeah lol

[tough berry]

ya that part i think they follow pattern of 20% heal powder onces new region came

[orchid pilot]

lmao I collect thorny and fluffy every single time I pass by it but have never once ground it 🤦

[graceful wraith]

Yea it is, I was just testing it to see how it works

[tough berry]

since valley got 1 tp

[orchid pilot]

they got me like pavlov's dog even though I don't bother using it

though the fact that they're everywhere in the new map has broken the habit a bit

[tough berry]

ya the farm died when new map come

[shadow void]

Yeah, bottom of marker stone is alot of Thorny

[tough berry]

while the 180 atk you can get 4 or more daily

from dhjin gift

[unique nova]

im too lazy to daily farm, i crafted so much of the ultimate energy food back when oob zips were a thing and we had the unlimited jump tech with ults

they need to have some kinda auto harvest for it

[tough berry]

dang wish i can experiencesflying in mobile

oh btw better off destroy daily farm thats takes 35 slot of your main pac space

[shadow void]

about a day and 5 hours till the 28th (for me atleast), just gotta make sure the outposts will be full then, and all my materials cap that day

[tough berry]

20 plot 10 splrinler 4 power pole 1 outlet or pump

[unique nova]

damn i didn't know there was gonna be an update so soon, i thought the next update was gonna be in may lol

[tough berry]

its event

[shadow void]

well assuming the AIC event on the calender is the Xiranite Gourd stuff

[tough berry]

limited factory

[unique nova]

that i didn't know, but my main pac is like the one thats the most empty, so it should be fine lol

[shadow void]

The "Curious use of Xiranite" is a guide event which is like a checklist of stuff in areas, so it'll coincide with the Test Area

[tough berry]

waiso the event tommorw can unlock new zone?

[shadow void]

no

[tough berry]

ahh

[shadow void]

the event is called AIC something

[unique nova]

where do u see the calendar roadmap thing?

[tough berry]

though it gonna unlovk test area lel

[shadow void]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[shadow void]

this is the Guide event for this current patch

[sterile stratus]

r

[shadow void]

e

[tough berry]

a

[sterile stratus]

l

[shadow void]

i

[sterile stratus]

imma check my factory after leaving it for several hours

hopefully the copium is still there

is there any suggestion channel for akef i want liquids to flow through unactive facilities (turned off) 🥀

[iron stratus]

for marker stone

[unique nova]

guess i'll go prep my factory for this too then

[iron stratus]

i believe there's gonna be another for test area

[nimble topaz]

My factory halts when I maxxed out of copium parts 😭

[shadow void]

Yes that'll be the "Curious use of Xiranite" guide event

[sterile stratus]

...oh, i don't need this but thanks

[shadow void]

Subduer of the Blighted Sea is the current patchs Guide event

[shadow void]

Free Loot!

[sterile stratus]

free stuff is always good

[iron stratus]

it can be 0 ????

[shadow void]

yeah

[sterile stratus]

round down, please

[shadow void]

it does thahts why its 0

[sterile stratus]

round down is nice hopefully my local supermarket implements this soon

[shadow void]

horrible rounding

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sterile stratus]

xd

and i sacrificed... the copium!!

[shadow void]

I'm planning for my outposts stock bills to be max a few hours into the 28th, along with my Xir, Hvy Xir, and Hetanite to cap that day too

excess stored in V4

[sterile stratus]

holy sc hard carry, respect

[shadow void]

got enough SC batteries to survive till then. . .not that i'm selling anything anyway

[sterile stratus]

lol

[sterile stratus]

36288

oh i should check mine

cmon earn more please outposts

[shadow void]

I've got 4.6m in batteries atm, and its only gonna grow. I'll be saving another 23k batteries for another 1.24m

I'll only need 3,320,000 when the 28th rolls around. I'm totally over thinking this

[sterile stratus]

that's nice wow

[shadow void]

little bit over the limit with Xiranite so i'm turning it into Xircon Effluent and putting it in a Cryston bottle

[sterile stratus]

i built 5-6 stash rows before the update, and the disappointment when lv4 outpost isn't there

[shadow void]

yeah

[sterile stratus]

hopefully lv4 soon

and when symmetric pipe 🥀

[meager stream]

but rip originium dense & originium mining

[shadow void]

cant do stashes or anything atm, Wuling AIC is pretty much 4-5 items from beeing maxed out, SkyKing is my Forge area so its full, and Marker Stone has all my Gourd factory setup and is 90% full

[graceful wraith]

Never

[sterile stratus]

everything's for sc

[graceful wraith]

Nothing in this game is symmetric

[sterile stratus]

*sob

[shadow void]

not really, i'm banking all 13.25 SC batteries because i'm consuming HC ValleyIV

[sterile stratus]

wh

how are you transferring hc valley there

[shadow void]

manually, about 3 times daily

~3 transfers

[sterile stratus]

manually 🥀 i could never

oh wait

maybe i could

[shadow void]

normal power usage its 3 and some full inventorys of batteries

Just a bit of menu-fu in Dijang and its done

[sterile stratus]

10.4k hc per day 🥀

i probably should find some ways to reduce my power consumption

[shadow void]

sounds about right, if i use 7.5/m

mines 4.8k power regular usage

[sterile stratus]

mine is 5.3

[shadow void]

. . . combat towers battery powered?

i have ziplines to everything, but those are only 5 pwr each

[storm lichen]

Ok bare with me. I tiktoked for an hour before I remembered why I turned on my phone in the first place. (To ask this question).
What are we doing with the piss? Dumping it back in the piss puddle, or water treating it?

Also I could use a nice pic of a a hertonite setup.

[crimson inlet]

I dump it back

[sterile stratus]

no i got rid of the pylons at combat towers

[sterile stratus]

i just suck

[storm lichen]

Oh thats sexy

[storm lichen]

Is that for max throughput?

[crimson inlet]

nah, it uses 3 crucibles instead of 4 each (until next update)

[olive basalt]

hows the production looking yall

[crimson inlet]

since puri uses up 4 crucibles per 2 seconds to smoothly produce hetonite

[shadow void]

you can get information from tiktok?

[storm lichen]

No you can just forget why you went there in the first place, and hopefully wake up closer to the singularity.

[olive basalt]

heres a cleaner pic but yeah

seems about right

[sterile stratus]

14 sc nice

[unique nova]

ok i setup the gourd things, is it just 2 that we need?

[storm lichen]

This is my first draft, so to speak.

[unique nova]

i mean i guess we don't have enough heavy xira to get more

[olive basalt]

its more like 13.75

since it dips sometimes

[sterile stratus]

finally i completed abberant

[sterile stratus]

i get only 1.25 where do u get the .5

[olive basalt]

idk bro

[rare moon]

stolen from dijiang

[sterile stratus]

uh

[shadow void]

Its just a Xiranite Gourd and Jade Gourd, but there are parts and bottles in Xir/Hvy Xir versions

plus the atomizer

[unique nova]

is there more aside from the one u linked me?

[olive basalt]

though

whats the max hetonite part production

[shadow void]

not that i know of, and if theres trade-ins for the parts/bottles/atomizer i can just slot in a stash to store them

[shadow void]

i think 22.5

[sterile stratus]

4.5 for 180 copium

[olive basalt]

so if im producing 3 with that graph is that normal or am i lacking smth

[unique nova]

the only thing i have is the 12/min gourd, what is the atomizer thing

[shadow void]

oh parts

[shadow void]

atomizer is for the Jade Gourd

[sterile stratus]

oops, i forgot 2 pipes

[rare moon]

3/min is 4 cups usuage. 6 cups is 4.5

[olive basalt]

yeah heres the 30 min graph

[unique nova]

ohh its another mat?

[sterile stratus]

i should all-in for heto parts for the upcoming event?

[shadow void]

if your Hetanite looks like this or better you are golden

[sterile stratus]

it was 30/min last night

and then i edit something and forgot the pipes 🥀

[shadow void]

yeah, theres Xiranite Gourds that take regular Xiranite parts and bottles, then a Jade gourd which takes an Atomizer, Yahzen filled Hvy Xir Bottle, and Hvy Xir Parts

[olive basalt]

why is the theoretical yield for hetonite always 0

🥀

even when im producing it

[shadow void]

huh?

[olive basalt]

some kind of weird phenomenon

theoretical goes from 0 to 30

[unique nova]

ohh dang, i only built the heavy one, is it the same build but just switch out heavy xira with regular ones?

[shadow void]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=z9v6R6f3e9s7H7

[sterile stratus]

now i'm less lazy, ill eat the depot when it's ready

[sterile stratus]

oh ok

[shadow void]

where are you using your Hetanite or Cuprium?

[olive basalt]

parts

[unique nova]

oh its the same one with heavy's

[sterile stratus]

i KNEW that glazing yazhen was correct

[shadow void]

if all your cuprium is going into Hetanite production something is wrong if you arent atleast making 22.5/m Heta

[vivid forge]

Is this the AIC event recipes?

[shadow void]

supposedly

[sterile stratus]

probably

[olive basalt]

no not all of it lol im making batteries and yazhen in conjunction

[storm lichen]

I've always wondered, is theoretically actually possible? Or is it just like what will be possible after

[shadow void]

If its on/off on the theoretical then it could just be the machine stopping and starting because its technically not running at 100%

[rare moon]

mostly the number if your facilities are 100% production but we dont have the full 100% input to achieve it

[sterile stratus]

almost clogged my sc line

actually does maxed heavy xir clog the line tho

[shadow void]

OOF, hope liquid has a use on the next update

[sterile stratus]

i connect the effluent from the crucs directly to the heavy xir line

[shadow void]

i've just been banking the Xircon Effluent since it can go towards batteries or Hvy

[sterile stratus]

i banked some before the update cuz some ppl told me to just do it but idk what to do now

[shadow void]

ew, thats inert, mines the good stuff

[sterile stratus]

"ew" 😭

[shadow void]

lol

[sterile stratus]

bruh

[olive basalt]

honestly idk if this guy was trolling but apparently something about my production is "not normal" and i dont really know why he said that

[shadow void]

its only job is to get purified tho

[sterile stratus]

i should just purify

[shadow void]

you should

[sterile stratus]

what

wym trolling

[olive basalt]

i mean because he just said that and refused to elaborate

[shadow void]

the only thing imo, that matters to everyone, is whether or not you are consuming all your raw ore. what you do with it is different for everyone

[olive basalt]

not in this chat

[olive basalt]

yeah i am

[shadow void]

everyones gonna be doing different things with excess or producing Yahzen over hetanite, but at the end of the day, aslong as those are getting consumed, thats fine

[olive basalt]

i mean yeah its just a bit weird to say someones factory is not normal and then refuse to elaborate any further

[shadow void]

i'd crank up the Ferrium usage so its not sitting on cap, but thats me

[sterile stratus]

ignorant is bliss

sometimes

[sonic summit]

you can go to separating unit and pipe it to purifier, if you want you can bottle the effluent with filling unit using same bottle

[sterile stratus]

yeah lol but at least not now

still funi to have it in depot

[shadow void]

and i was just joking by the way, what you do with your Inert Xircon Effluent is up to you

[sterile stratus]

15 more dense stuff in a while ig idk

[sonic summit]

[sterile stratus]

s*wage

[shadow void]

Excess Xiranite dump

[sterile stratus]

cryston btle

bo'oh

[shadow void]

o'wa'tuh

[unique nova]

i don't think ive ever used those before

[shadow void]

i had 68k Amethyst sitting in Wuling so i just processed it into those

[sterile stratus]

2k power?

anyway gotta do my work imma gaming later

[shadow void]

LCW uses Xiranite, SCW uses processed liquid Xiranite (Xircon), so i feel storing my excess Xiranite that I can't store elsewhere as Xircon Effluent is a safer bet than processing it into Xircon, because I do not need more batteries.

[lofty lodge]

Far from perfect but still satisfied with the result

[solid python]

Capped on Originium

[shadow void]

Don't wanna be too negative, but your Cuprium and Orginium Ore are capped.

It looks like you've got access to the max of each ore, but arent using it all

[lofty lodge]

yeh, need to figure out what can i use the leftover or try to improve my xiranite. Severly lacking in xiranite . Maybe is not optimized.

[exotic olive]

what production do i have to make to optimise profits

[shadow void]

do you have access to all 8 Forge of the Skys?

[lofty lodge]

yup

[shadow void]

My setup atleast is 7 producing Xiranite and 1 on Hvy Xiranite

Xiranite being 210/m and Hvy Xir 6/m

[lofty lodge]

Might be i got xiranite problem. i produce half of yours

[storm lichen]

8 fots?

[valid gazelle]

Okay the fixed water input is really making it hard for a symmetrical base

[storm lichen]

One question, where is the piss output on the third reactor in the top row?

I'm all clogged up

[crimson inlet]

oh, it clogs the crucibles

if your wondering where the acid byproduct is going, its heading to a conduit and being dumped at the source of the acid

[storm lichen]

Yeah i did that

Only difference is I didn't feed it with a dual conduit inlet. I came right off the pumps and split two of them

[vale topaz]

12 / m sc battery, 6 / m heavy xiranite, 4-5 / m hetonite part
primary is 12 / m sc battery since that's the most profitable one for trading

[exotic olive]

do i skip the heavy xiranite/hetonite part if i already made enough

i have 10k+ for both of them and i dont think i need like that many gearing parts

[vale topaz]

uhm, incoming event will require them, heavy xiranite and normal hetonite.
not sure if 10k will be enough.

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[vale topaz]

that AIC production event, tomorrow

[exotic olive]

oh well

i guess i'll change up my factory tomorrow

[storm lichen]

Is yours still working?

[rare moon]

purest of water

[desert flame]

just a suggestion, can get rid of 1 acid source, then loop back the acid output back to the main feed, should still sustain

[crimson inlet]

yeah

[crimson inlet]

I tried it but its highly unstable and prone to underfeeding

[storm lichen]

Omg i see it now. It's almost a closed loop of piss gotcha

[desert flame]

the trick is put the middle acid input to spit evenly to top and bottom

[hidden hornet]

which one is better, i have space for two forges in the first image but not in the second, but the first doesnt have integrated zircon production

i have a dual zircon out in another aic

[crimson inlet]

the 1st pic was my first design, then I saw Haruchan's design and nabbed it

[lofty lodge]

Finally found the problem..... my forge only make half of it. have to make 2 carbon grinder for 1 xiranite forge.

[mint sentinel]

what do i do with sewage

[vale topaz]

vote for no 1, in case there will be hc, you won't have to redo much.

[hidden hornet]

either loop it into a crucible or waste treatment

[hidden hornet]

that is true

[valid gazelle]

Yes

That means we have 1 sandleaf powder left out

[sage nymph]

where do people get the info about the requirements for the upcoming event?

[marble yarrow]

[hidden hornet]

wiat so i need to stock up?

[vale topaz]

not only that but seem also let outpost regenerate stock bills.

[marble yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfgj407WJ8

[static isle]

ppl still malding at the "jump off cliff" memo bots

like bruh go play souls

[mint sentinel]

do i need 2 water treatment units to fully get rid of the sewage from refinement ?

[bright zodiac]

1treatment for 1refine cuprium

[mint sentinel]

oki

[graceful wraith]

Y'all take a guess how many times this has happened

[bright zodiac]

or you can do the filling and bottle, when it reach 68K

click the bottle, remove liquid

[vale topaz]

don't think there's any production bug since 1.1 offline + crucible fix.
what happened to your battery production ?

[tall thunder]

How do you increase the Stock Bill Savings in Cardiac Remediation Station?

[graceful wraith]

Nah it's nothing that serious lmao, I'm in the process of rebuilding my factory, so it happens daily

I scrapped all my battery prod, so it's just like that

[hoary crag]

rip

[iron stratus]

you dont yet

[tall thunder]

[glossy sequoia]

Did anyone got this achievement? My wuling aic tree is full

[sick basin]

May 14th

[iron stratus]

gotta wait for 1.2 part 2

[marble yarrow]

final +4 forge

[storm lichen]

I need to read a book about plumbing..

[valid gazelle]

Not enough

[fringe owl]

bro im gonna need more space for 4 extra frickin forges

[ancient charm]

I hope there will be new tech for zoning and auto turning off some production lines if materials run out/product maxed or reached threshold

[jolly shore]

fruits of autism? let's goooo

[vale topaz]

you'll manage

[ancient wagon]

Is there any point to using xironite relays and pylons

[graceful wraith]

Why not

[ancient wagon]

Like over just normal ones

[unreal crater]

It's less hassle

[marble yarrow]

bro

[graceful wraith]

Longer and easier distance duh

[ancient wagon]

Ok

[graceful wraith]

Btw, what's the max number of xircon we can make rn?

[unreal crater]

And it allows you to do connections you won't be able to do with wired

[vale topaz]

???? it's much easier to use xiranite pylon and relay

[ancient wagon]

Then ill use those

[unreal crater]

60/min

[ancient wagon]

I havent even started wuling factory yet so yk

[vale topaz]

owh, yeah the xiranite requirement probably holding you back until you can produce it in large quantity

[marble yarrow]

valley 4 relays/pylon require you to manually connect them

xiranite relays/pylon dont. they auto connect on distance, doesnt matter if a mountain or structure or unpassable terrain is in between them

[graceful wraith]

I still remember when new players complained abt not being able to connect v4 pylons in a straight line

[ancient wagon]

Yay

[graceful wraith]

And then they give u just that in wuling

[tacit quarry]

anyone got beautiful AIC setup?

[unreal crater]

smh

[ancient wagon]

Whoa, its a grid kinda

Mine is just a bunch of lines going in random directions

[unreal crater]

The OCD triggers in the gaem

[tacit quarry]

I kinda like this view

[hidden hornet]

Is pog doing a jig?

[unreal crater]

10 FPS mode ahh
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C03B8gADPns

[tacit quarry]

lol

[uneven aspen]

am considering trying out DIGE

what's the difference between primary only and using secondary?

[storm lichen]

Got it!

[ancient charm]

why use the depot depot bus section at the side, that is completely reduntdant?

[storm lichen]

Yes it is, but thats not the problem we were having.

[cyan forge]

what do u even use leftover xiranite from making 13.25/min sc for?

hmmm

do we just sell em?

[marble yarrow]

i stock them up in protocol stashes

[cyan forge]

hmm

what do ppl sell in outpost rn

battery n heto/med on 1st one, heavy xira only on 2nd?

[marble yarrow]

yeah

[cyan forge]

noted

[ancient wagon]

I kinda like manually connecting them because then I can hit that perfect 80 distance

[cyan forge]

fk i stocked up too much heavy xira

[ancient charm]

dun worry you can spend it all tomorrow

[cyan forge]

i can't spend all 56k in 2 days

[marble yarrow]

oh boy, you really havent tried xiranite power lines yet, it seems

[ancient charm]

just stop producing xiranite and turn all FoS to processing heavy xiranite for new goods

[bold vessel]

should i be making hetonite part instead for stocks?

[ancient charm]

surely if you have 56k heavy xira you must have 68k SC wuling

[ancient charm]

het part and yazhen C

[cyan forge]

the problem is. i am full on heavy xira. not xira

[cyan forge]

i was selling all my sc

[ancient charm]

ggs

cooked

[subtle finch]

it can vary, sometimes using secondary can get you closer to exact power target, sometimes not
long period solutions are usually worse or could be unstable, i stick to 20mins or less
your secondary power source might not be fully automatic, like you need to transfer hc valley battery, so you might just stick with only primary
it's mostly personal preference which one you prefer, just check fuel consumption and how much you are saving, that's the most important at the end of the day

[ancient wagon]

Its because I haven't even started factory building in wuling since i'm still doing the storyline lol

[graceful wraith]

Why does the power icon timer starts counter clockwise

Wtf

[marble yarrow]

then rush doing it furst

[graceful wraith]

It's messing my shi up

[bold vessel]

how about heavy xiranite? should i be selling too?

[ancient charm]

you can since there isnt much to do with it except het comp right now

but I would suggest maybe keeping 10k to 20k spare

[graceful wraith]

When it starts depleting, it starts counter clockwise. Shouldn't it be clockwise?

[silent canyon]

I'm curious, is anyone else bothered by the protocol limit in the Wuling City region?
Every other region I feel like the limit is reasonable, but in Wuling I hit the limit and I feel like it's really restrictive. It's a big region, I got lots of ziplines, as well as having the farm which needed sprinklers, and I wanted sentry guns at the energy alluvium.
I haven't hit the zipline limit, but I'm not allowed to build more because I hit the protocol limit

[ancient charm]

protocol limit is not the biggest issue

facility limit is

512

man the number times it has popped up

ffs

[silent canyon]

Protocols are facilitys I'm talking about the same thing

[unique nova]

i felt that way with the limit at the start too, idk what increases it but i feel like there was something that upped the limit not sure if it had to do with the region level

[ancient wagon]

Just unlocked xiranite industry in the aic plan

[graceful wraith]

Nah overworld and aic limit are actually different

[ancient charm]

bruh they are different things

[silent canyon]

Oh then I'm talking about overworld

[ancient charm]

facility limit is the limit of facilities you can have in a region including AIC

[graceful wraith]

I mean I guess they kinda are the same thing, but overworld and aic got different limit

[silent canyon]

I have not hit the limit for Aic

[ancient charm]

no

facility limit includes both overworld and aic

so both add up to 512 limit

[graceful wraith]

Real? Damn

[ancient charm]

thats why if you're aiming for a wuling megabase 512 is a very big issue

you can have leftover space but not be able to build more because 512 limit

[hasty cipher]

I just met the Expanded Crucibles, and by Victoria's glory, I'll make them work as HG intended...

[silent canyon]

I get the technical limit but I wish it could have been broken up better

[bold vessel]

im not making yazhen C cuz i need ferrium to make more xircon for my wuling bat in valley 4

[ancient charm]

what regional level are you at

[ancient wagon]

Is there a way to store liquids

[upper fiber]

why zipline has it's own limit and still count toward map limit

[hasty cipher]

Bottle them

Or use a Fluid tank

[ancient wagon]

Kk

[bold vessel]

max, im also transporting ferrium from valley > wuling

[ancient charm]

then you have more than enough to do all 3

[upper fiber]

i think all maps are good if zipline not counted

[ancient charm]

60 goes to xircon, 22.5 goes to het, 7.5 goes to yazhen C

[bold vessel]

how many unloader for that tho?

[hasty cipher]

For example, I needed to send the Xircon Effluent to the Marker Stone map