aic-factory

[vale topaz]

primary or secondary stat.
3rd stat max is 6

[drowsy locust]

im glad we got manifolds(imagine belts squared) the satisfactory begins

[subtle finch]

3 series splitters are known to choke fluids out of the last 2 units., and fluids not arriving on time
it's safer to just do even splits

[chrome elm]

I wonder. Can you reduce the production of the Batteries by half? I'm running it at 6ppm. Probably isn't necessary is it...

[frigid dirge]

supper dupper clean

[hidden hornet]

bruh

[frigid dirge]

ill try another

[orchid patrol]

buffer it up will solve the problem ?

[subtle finch]

same problem, last 2 will slowly drain

[orchid patrol]

oh :/

[frigid dirge]

too bad i don't have any 3rd stat max +3

[vale topaz]

splitter the xircon input and only use 2 orignium cube as input.
that should make 3/m

[orchid patrol]

Instead of this i should doing this to solve it ?

[vale topaz]

...... in your screenshot example, agility or strength boost +3.
then strap at p5 purple weapon with agility or strength

[frigid dirge]

i put it into p5 yellow one

[gentle sentinel]

I don't like this

[vale topaz]

just unplug it and put it back once the quest complete......

completing the quest will not consume the weapon or essence

[wispy grove]

theres no way bro

[ruby sorrel]

what're you even doing with weps

[vale topaz]

.... so exhausting trying to help him to finish +9 mission pass weapon

[frigid dirge]

doing lvl9 pass thing

[wispy grove]

how much water/s inside your pipe before spliting?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah you should just have one already

[orchid patrol]

the water is normal, a the moment of the screen i had done some weird things like cut of the water source for the 1 screen but not the 2nd

[wispy grove]

how many conduits connected to that pipe?

[frigid dirge]

does this team good, just testing

[orchid patrol]

it's 2 pumps for 4 furnaces normally

[wispy grove]

show me the ful picture

[frigid dirge]

1pump -> 2 machine

[orchid patrol]

and 1 pipe can hold 2 pumps

[subtle finch]

i hate how that's the cleanest way to route the pipings

[marble yarrow]

bro doesnt want to pipe over the bus

😭

[orchid patrol]

im not sure of the emplacement of this so i will do it after im sure where to put it

[frigid dirge]

well look at mine

[subtle finch]

i prefer squiggly pipes over squiggly belts

[glossy beacon]

done and now i tired trying fix the factory always out of material

[frigid dirge]

did u using mixed team tbh

[subtle finch]

those ops are too well posed for it to be coincident

[glossy beacon]

i not good at build team. i used depending on enemy

[wispy grove]

[subtle finch]

acid resistant pump for water sure is a choice

[orchid patrol]

it's a bridge not a merger xD

[marble yarrow]

messiah ahh, turning acid into water

i love work hours interruptions when i move things

[frigid dirge]

i see u have zhuang fangyi, last rite so u can look at this one i build

if u have laevatain u can use this

[orchid patrol]

man time is time, we gotta suck dry every bit of breaktime we can

[frigid dirge]

so when the game update

[wispy grove]

whats the dige calculation formula again?

i have 3x3 splitters rn

[marble yarrow]

2 3 3 3 is 54s

[frigid dirge]

whats that

[dreamy jungle]

nah enough playing around with that layout, time to do some side missions

[frigid dirge]

whats that ui

look weird

[dreamy jungle]

https://enka.network/endfield/aic/

[unreal laurel]

i need someone with a deep understanding of pipe logic

[glossy beacon]

i didn't have Gilberta and TangTang and Laevatain due i was focus on other game on streaming

[frigid dirge]

oh

[unreal laurel]

anyone?

so basically i got a pipe with lets say 1effluent,1sewage combined

if i put a spliter on this pipe then put a fluid control control port on one of its outputs

[frigid dirge]

u can change gilberta to ardelia and tangtang to snowshine (or akekuri)

[unreal laurel]

wait....

[frigid dirge]

i didn't build ice team yet

[unreal laurel]

nvm

[fringe oasis]

How important is this material late game?

[waxen aurora]

requires a bunch of them

for excess battery productions

[unreal laurel]

is converger capacity also 1?

[frigid dirge]

battery

[unreal laurel]

?

cause lets say i have 2 items going into it and it outputs directly into a machine

[frigid dirge]

as u can see, it all for battery

[unreal laurel]

if the machine uses both items but clogs on one

will the whole converger clog or keep sending item 2

i need to know

[unreal laurel]

how tf are you running 4 xirxon

you cant afford that much

[hidden hornet]

bro four is easy

[unreal laurel]

its not a size issue genius

[tacit quarry]

my 7 Xiranite factory in row
not sure if it worth doing since it take half of space

[frigid dirge]

it's

[unreal laurel]

its a supoly and demand issue

[hidden hornet]

seven is tough

[unreal laurel]

i dont recall there being enough originium for 4

[frigid dirge]

look how much xircon i have

[static isle]

there are BPs that fit 7 in a subPAC

[frigid dirge]

the problem is dense originium powder

[tacit quarry]

super important you need them for battery making

[vivid walrus]

It's so stupid that it doesn't auto create(or am I stupid), but I just NEED a tip on this because it felt like hypergryph is saying "fuck you" To efficient maxers

[static isle]

so rn it's either xtranfer HCV bats to skimp on SCW for selling or xtransfer dense originium powder for mat efficiency right?

[unreal laurel]

mb,i meant to say 4sc

[vivid walrus]

How do you zoom that far?

[unreal laurel]

you can meta transfer batteries?

[tacit quarry]

interesting

[tacit quarry]

this is on https://enkad.enka.network/
not in game

[static isle]

I use one of them https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495778524760641596

[vital narwhal]

heh

[vivid walrus]

I'm suspicious it'll be like that 3rd party site case again

[frigid dirge]

well

[fringe oasis]

Aight, I'm gonna spam Dense orig producers

[static isle]

oh shit the BP author is in the chat xdd

[frigid dirge]

3.5 / min

[unreal laurel]

whys your yield shit

[static isle]

it's just a planner

[frigid dirge]

idk if u still in valley IV then idk

[unreal laurel]

whats the capacity on a converger?

[tacit quarry]

it's just a site to make template without you have to stop in game factory

[unreal laurel]

does it fail to send both if 1 clogs?

[vivid walrus]

Ouhh

Noted

[unreal laurel]

or can i keep the flow of 1 while the other is clogged

[frigid dirge]

with my guess, the power will drop aroun 15sec and will turn back on sometime

[tacit quarry]

thanks

[fringe oasis]

Yeah I'm in Valley 4, doing metastorage transfer of Dense orig to Wuling

[frigid dirge]

so that why 3.5/min with the battery

[frigid dirge]

i never using dijang transfer stuff

[static isle]

I made mine before you made the Asia code so I had to manually put everything by looking at enkad xdd

[unreal laurel]

can someone clarify how convergers handle single input clogs?

[fringe oasis]

it doesn't transfer a whole lot tbf

[static isle]

you should
it's just free mats
either do HCV bats to save on SCW or do dense orig for max eff

[unreal laurel]

does the whole thing just break or does it allow other items to flow?

[fringe oasis]

1.5k per hour... your milage may vary

[vital narwhal]

not sure what you're trying to articulate here, but converger will rotate between inputs if it has multiple at that instant, otherwise it just takes whichever one is the only one

[thorn mason]

anyone know why its not working?
its supposed to make inert xirocon effluent(whole schematic is for heavy xironite from some other guy)

[frigid dirge]

yeah 6k for one

[unreal laurel]

if item 1 is clogged on the output,can it continuously just handle item2

[static isle]

sewage clogging

[unreal laurel]

or does it clog

[frigid dirge]

nawh i would never do that, log in the game to transfering item is not worth it

[static isle]

it's auto
dumb

[frigid dirge]

it's?

[frigid dirge]

wait, where is the ui again

didn't see it

[static isle]

main AIC screen

[frigid dirge]

boi, greatt

[vital narwhal]

Are you saying like you're putting a converger facing into loader/input port and want to know if second item type can enter even if first is clogged? My gut feeling for that is that probably isn't possible, though I'm not certain

[static isle]

you get 30/hr if you transfer SCV
1500/hr (25/min) if you transfer dense powder (which is just short of one line)

hmm
if this is supposed to run solely of xtransfer powder then should I throttle the line or just turn it off and on every now and then

[unreal laurel]

would this still continue spliting the sewage so only half goes through the control port?

[tall tangle]

for the future so it's easier to find. it tries to do that but cant

[unreal laurel]

?

[frigid dirge]

u have 3 liquid to output tho

[static isle]

it uses its own liquid xira

only outputs inert zircon and sewage

[frigid dirge]

oh yeah, that xircon flu to make xircon

[thorn mason]

shit

[static isle]

honestly for xircon I'm still using the old 5 cru setup
bc I don't make xircon independently my entire SC fac is one large 6/m unit
I just put two side-by-side and call it a day

[twin adder]

I had this happened to me before, its a bug, just delete and put it back

[tacit quarry]

while It's nice template, I think I will skip on this one, since in next update we gonna have 12 skyforge, so we might have to do this all over again

[static isle]

you just put 7 there, forget about that outpost entirely and put 5 somewhere else

[iron stratus]

you cant fit 8 in a sub pac yet so might as well put 7 here and the other 4 elsewhere

or do plants in one and all 11 in test area

[static isle]

I have my xira bp ready
one single unit BP ✅
three units BP ✅

[dreamy jungle]

I have a version that uses modular builds for flexibility and reusability, not sure if i stay 7 sub

[tacit quarry]

In the next patch we gonna make HC battery I guess
I suspect that we gonna use 2 Heavy Xiranite factory
which left 10 skyforge for Xiranite
all I want is to fit all of them in 1 AIC

[static isle]

maybe it's all heavy xira from then on
9 xira feeding 3 heavy xira
bc one heavy xira technically cost 3 xira without inert effluent

[tacit quarry]

I dont think they will let us stop making Xircon, so it wont be all heavy xiranite

2 xiranite making about 1.25 Xircon

or 1 xircon + 0.5 Xircon eff

[frigid dirge]

well with 2 input so recycle and put xircron effluent back it real slow

[normal wasp]

anyone got a blueprint only producing hetonite component at Marker Stone map?.

[jovial breach]

Dont take out the sewage

[frigid dirge]

it will clog

[jovial breach]

What

No it's self sustain

Only take out the inert

[tacit quarry]

I recommend only making Hetonite at marker stone,
and making component at main base, so you can turn it on/off in in 1 map

[spare seal]

I've been trying to decide on what healing item would be easy to get stacks of, and my search ended up on your comment. Fluffed Jincao seems like a good budget option that doesn't take too much effort. What location is this?

[normal wasp]

can i get this blueprint?..Asia btw

[jovial breach]

I can share mine

[upper fiber]

guys how to clear this photo

do i need to clear quest

[spare seal]

Not sure, but which location is this at?

[upper fiber]

marker stone

[jovial breach]

Top right marker stone

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: [Hetonite Parts] EFO013o724i427auE0579 Copy it and use it in the game.@normal wasp

[spare seal]

Oh, its in the Watchtower reservoir. I don't think I ever entered it before

Edit: nvm, I definitely did and simply forgot it existed

[normal wasp]

thanks

[upper fiber]

why the devs doing this.... blocked site shouldn't be on the photo quest

[jovial breach]

You haven't done all the quests?

[spare seal]

Im away from my house Mon-Thurs each week. I only really get to play this game on the weekends

[normal wasp]

is the yellow pipe where the acid pee goes?

[jovial breach]

Yep

It's hard to see but there are orange and red pipe

[tacit quarry]

that's quite cleaver, use reacter to sent excess Cuprium powder and Acid

[frigid dirge]

this location isn't

[upper fiber]

yeah

[upper fiber]

my door still closed, that kong refuse to open it

[jovial breach]

Ye it's behind a quest

[frigid dirge]

you need to do the main quest to drain out of water

[upper fiber]

that's no main quest

[frigid dirge]

the main quest need to get in there tho

might be side quest

yeah it's a side quest that finding treasure

there is 4 yellow crate in there and 1 is for a quest

just do all the important quest, it might need time to give you a new one

[upper fiber]

man i'll just give up 400k bills

[frigid dirge]

don't forget this secret entrance

[keen river]

its a side quest area

dude here should have it

its something like "retrive old man's tools that have double the performance" or something

[normal wasp]

do you also happen to have a Heavy Xiranite blueprint?

[unreal laurel]

is it normal for 1.2SC to over produce xircon

[storm garnet]

xircon is overproduced if you don't throttle inputs

[hexed raft]

do i need 1 reator crucible and 1 expanded for xircon to 1 packager or just 1 expended?

[storm garnet]

1 expanded can make xircon

you need 2 expanded to make 30/min though

[hexed raft]

yeah but wont i ened an extra normal crucible for liquid xiranite?

[storm garnet]

no, all goes inside

it's 3 recipes at once

[hexed raft]

but this to make xircon i need 2 xircon effluent

[storm garnet]

with 3 recipes you can make 15/min

2 expanded then make 30/min

[hexed raft]

ok

[storm garnet]

or 1 makes only 2 recipes up to effluent, then feeds the other expanded to make 30/min

[storm garnet]

between the 2 expanded, you only need 1 cuprium refinery's sewage

[unreal laurel]

i did

its still faster

[storm garnet]

it goes to the 2 recipe one entirely, or half and half if making the 15/min version

[storm garnet]

throttle more

[unreal laurel]

why

it doesnt burn more power

[thorn mason]

am i stupid/blind or was it always 1:3 ratio

[unreal laurel]

just let it run

[desert flame]

always the case

[unreal laurel]

my 1.2SC works like programmer code.....

its messy as shit and will break if you touch it

[storm garnet]

cause you don't want to fill the depot with xircon

[desert flame]

and this in case you miss it

[storm garnet]

you will clog everything

[unreal laurel]

my depot isnt connected to it tho

itll just clog the crucible and throttle itself

[storm garnet]

ok then i guess

[unreal laurel]

its horrendous

i hate myself for its existence....

[storm garnet]

it gotta bottleneck somewhere anyways

[sterile stratus]

goat for carbon

[unreal laurel]

theres like 200pipe pieces,6 water treatment plants and 5miles of pipes outside the aic

[unreal laurel]

and its all spagetti

its torture to look at

[thorn mason]

i knew that
but yesterday i learned that from carbon i get 2 dust
and from the plant on photo i get two carbon

[unreal laurel]

dont ask why i have that many water treatment plants

[storm garnet]

i prefer to put buildings inside aic so protocol capacity doesn't go up

[unreal laurel]

i need all 6 of them

trust

[storm garnet]

i have water treatments for all cuprium refineries just in case i need to turn them on

[unreal laurel]

aint it 1 water treatment per refiner?

[storm garnet]

yep

[unreal laurel]

i got 6 running just nxt to the 1.2SC which has been my sewage source

but i had some problems throttling it

so i ended up with spaghetti outside my base

[storm garnet]

the sewage from the extra xircon mixes with the cuprium sewage that feeds the extra effluent, and just 1 treatment for both is enough

[unreal laurel]

ik

but i need another 5 for the refiners

and i didnt seperate their lines

so theres just spaghetti in the transition point

[storm garnet]

i just put things wherever, idc about spaghetti, it's just personality

[zenith phoenix]

Hey I'm gonna try and rebuild my wuling factories, but idk how to maintain the power after i delete everything from all 3 locations, where do i start??

[keen river]

just stockpile a bunch of batteries

[storm garnet]

just put some banks next to the pac

[ruby sorrel]

you don't need power until it's built anyways

[solid python]

Just delete one base at a time

[zenith phoenix]

What if i clear them all out rn

The factories

[keen river]

if you have valley4 factory, you can transfer a bunch of batteries from there using dijiang

and you will have plenty of time to rebuild your wuling

[storm garnet]

no need for energy if there is nothing to energize

[zenith phoenix]

True true

Okay I'm gonna go delete everything

[storm garnet]

just ziplines maybe, but you are not using them while building in the aic

[zenith phoenix]

I'm js kinda scared

To delete everything

[storm garnet]

don't worry, reseting the factory is kinda fun

[narrow rampart]

Why is xirancon not producing

[storm garnet]

you use your prior knowledge and make things much better

[lament turtle]

Save a print if you’re scared.

[zenith phoenix]

NY factory us so packed full

My

[storm garnet]

did you input only half a sewage pipe?

or zero if input is effluent from elsewhere

[keen river]

click on the Formulas button and it will tell you what clogged

[narrow rampart]

This is how it looks

[desert flame]

probably full sewage

[heavy mango]

I believe it's the Sewage

[narrow rampart]

Everything is clogged

[heavy mango]

It's TRYING to make the Xircon, but it cant because Sewage is already at 50

Clear out the Sewage, see what happens

(literally just me guessing)

[narrow rampart]

The grey thing?

[heavy mango]

Ye

[desert flame]

need to look at lower part on the crucible

[storm garnet]

you can output sewage with a pipe for a few tiles, then delete it, and check back in the machine to see if it works for a bit

if that works, sewage is the problem

[zenith phoenix]

I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna delete everything without blueprints 🥹🥹

[vale bramble]

clogged because of liquid xircon and liquid xiranite

somehow if one of the recipes is clogged, others get clogged too

[warped delta]

This is why I don't like "efficient" designs bc they're visually a mess and hard to troubleshoot

[heavy mango]

Not if you have schizophrenia, like me!

[fallow jasper]

gang whats the max originium you can get in wuling

[zenith phoenix]

This is almalt as worse as mine

[heavy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[jovial breach]

380

[zenith phoenix]

Wish i could just clear it in one click vro

[heavy mango]

[jovial breach]

480 mb

[fallow jasper]

hmm

[sterile stratus]

lol

[heavy mango]

Chen pfp spreading misinformation

typical

[sterile stratus]

lore accurate?

[heavy mango]

wait thats not chen

[jovial breach]

It's not chen but my bad

[heavy mango]

schizophrenia kicks hard

[jovial breach]

[storm garnet]

you need to lvl up the region lvl

[heavy mango]

And if you are at level 12, well shit, you missed a spot

[sterile stratus]

hmm

[narrow rampart]

Ty i fixed it

[heavy mango]

the others helped

[zenith phoenix]

Omg i js realized i don't have to click each and every one of the machines to select them

[storm garnet]

don't actually output sewage as a final solution, just control the input

[narrow rampart]

Ye all of em ty to all

[heavy mango]

Viktorr just found the X key

[fallow jasper]

btw guys how to get valley 4 to level 12? ive upgraded like everything i could find

[heavy mango]

Did you place EVERY mining rig?

[vale bramble]

check RDM sources

[heavy mango]

Depending on how far off you are, you're either missing an upgrade or some mining spots

[zenith phoenix]

Yes how dyk what to do to increase the level

[marble yarrow]

space!!!!

[vale bramble]

what's the website for making layouts

[fallow jasper]

specifically? no

[storm garnet]

disgusting, so much space, so much freedom

[heavy mango]

https://enkad.enka.network/

[fallow jasper]

pretty sure

[heavy mango]

"pretty" sure is not 100% sure

[tacit quarry]

inspire by your build, so I did this

[zenith phoenix]

My wuling factories are now empty

[heavy mango]

I will never understand how any of yall do ts

like this shit took me 5 hours to even get functional

[sterile stratus]

oh 8 forge thats nice

[sterile stratus]

feels like ferrium is carrying aic

[tacit quarry]

why are you making 8 xiranite? you need to make heavy xiranite

[heavy mango]

to see if i could.

i can.

so now I make heavy instead.

-# do not question my methods

[zenith phoenix]

It's copy and paste

[upper fiber]

if only we can import from enkad to endfield bp...

[zenith phoenix]

Okay where do i put my farms??

[keen river]

ah, this multi recipe thingy unfortunately suffers from clogging behaviour if you underfeed it xiranite :\

my setup has same issue

[heavy mango]

thankfully it was just a sewage clog

[keen river]

sewage clog is the side effect not the root cause

it should be consuming all the sewage

[heavy mango]

yeah but their line looks set up in a way where just this once simply getting the sewage out will at least get it moving again

[iron stratus]

can you fit everything in the main pac or do you have to outsource some xira to an outpost

[heavy mango]

so u definitely right!

[thorn mason]

it may not be the best but is it at least good?

[keen river]

there is not enough space in main pac for sure

well, you can make all xiranite in main pac but then other stuff will need to go somewhere

[iron stratus]

it has to at least be close though

i already have everything but heto production in there

[keen river]

it also depends how much you actually want to produce i guess 🤔

you probably could fit xiranite + some sc batteries in main

[iron stratus]

all xira+sc+heavy is easy

[fallen badge]

512 building is the max buildings you can build in a single factory? I want to place my xiranite production in my wuling aic bcs there's so much area left but it doesn't let me build another facility

[storm garnet]

if you use just 2 crucibles for hetonite, it might be possible

[iron stratus]

that's all of wuling city

[storm garnet]

2 is what i recommend btw, if only thinking about bills

[iron stratus]

delete some ziplines and stuff outside of the aic

[storm garnet]

maybe 4

[fallen badge]

Another map included? Or only wuling city?

[heavy mango]

Jelly, you didnt place 50 Mortars at the Wuling Alluvium... right...

[iron stratus]

i do 3 heto parts rest to heto comps right now

[iron stratus]

only wuling city

[tall tangle]

all forges fit in main no problem with extra space left

[storm garnet]

(actually yea, 4)

[iron stratus]

all forges fit in a sub pac

so easily in the main

[storm garnet]

cause it's 3 hetonite parts and 3 yazhen a per min

[wide pecan]

Does anyone have pwm set up for 5k energy in wuling?

[storm garnet]

best ratio to fill the depot

[iron stratus]

i dont need any more yazhen A

3k is enough until the next meds so im just going all in on heto

[storm garnet]

yazhen and heto both give the same bills

[iron stratus]

heto gives 48 yazhen gives 22

[storm garnet]

so it's better to get them at ratio

it's about cost to make them

[iron stratus]

someone said heto takes less power too

[tardy bridge]

I NEED THE BLEUPPRINT TO THE SKY FACTORY

GIVE ME !

[storm garnet]

it takes more

[tardy bridge]

TGE FACTORY IN THE WULING SKY

[heavy mango]

[storm garnet]

the less heto i made, the more power i had

[tardy bridge]

I SAW IT IN A VIDEO SOMEONE MADE A FACTORY IN THE SKY OF WULING

[heavy mango]

no need to shout...

[storm garnet]

yes, it's from a few days ago

[tardy bridge]

GIB ME THE PRONTSSS

Prints*

Blueprint*

[heavy mango]

I don't have'em

[storm garnet]

just follow the vid

[tardy bridge]

GIVE

[storm garnet]

you can't use bps outside the aic anyways

[tardy bridge]

My phone will melt before I'm done

[keen river]

you can use bps outside the aic anyway

[heavy mango]

You kinda need to do it yourself anyway

[tardy bridge]

[keen river]

and as to how he done it, probably using the hovering bug

[heavy mango]

Just follow a tutorial man o.o

[tardy bridge]

Dissapointed

falls asleep

[storm garnet]

that vid was both showcase and tutorial

[tall tangle]

48* .25 = 12
22* .5 = 11
not really that crazy of a diff

[storm garnet]

it didn't show how to do the overing bug though

[keen river]

im honestly surprised that those kites even have a collision boxes on them

[storm garnet]

about the heto vs food btw

[heavy mango]

maybe the next delver of the cryptic will use them?
otherwise there really ain't no reason for it...

[keen river]

no idea

maybe

[heavy mango]

yk kinda like that one parkour map in the first set, maybe they'll have us jumping across the kites

[keen river]

maybe they have collision because they reuse the folded one

but its super weird

especially since they move around

[heavy mango]

gonna consider it an oversight and call it a day

[zenith phoenix]

What if i use jingyu for farms and the new area for batteries? Or can i js put them all in jingyu

[storm garnet]

it's all about depot inputs and outputs in the end

you want to minimize them

[zenith phoenix]

What

[storm garnet]

loaders and unloaders if you will

[zenith phoenix]

Oh

[heavy mango]

the real crime is that ornaments arent available in top down.

[storm garnet]

thank god, i don't want them to clutter the ui

it's already filled enough

[keen river]

the real crime is that ornaments cant be placed on dijiang

[heavy mango]

how often do you use the misc tab?!

Like, if you just put ornaments in with Miscellaneous, then it's hardly a bother

[storm garnet]

until more things get added and it is a bother

[heavy mango]

I'm sure they're gonna start sorting once more regions come in

[tall tangle]

the real crime is existence of ornaments

[jovial breach]

Well originally it was haruna design

I did some adjustments

[heavy mango]

they're a step in the right direction at least

[narrow rampart]

Do i have to break everything and build again cuz i have 1 less supply of dense originium

[heavy mango]

you can definitely optimise the space to get that last dense originium line in there

[tall tangle]

right direction of what? being sims instead of factorio?

[jovial breach]

This is why i stopped caring about symmetry

[heavy mango]

allowing little bits of customisation, I'd rather have them on the Dijang sure, but the fact they exist means they're willing to allow players to decorate...
who knows if we'll end up being able to customise our Dijang or even some other space akin to Genshin's Teapot

I see no harm in it

[narrow rampart]

Well actually my frnd built everything in wulling for the most part cuz i got tired of doing aic after valley but idk why now i feel like doing it so i broke a lot of stuff he made but not everything now that i look at it i need to fix a lot of stuff

[storm garnet]

there is harm, cause other players can visit your dijiang

someone could put a lot of things in their ship and make other people's pc/phone explode

[storm garnet]

or trap them

[heavy mango]

Limit the object count
They're already doing it in the overworld

And you could never get truly trapped
1.) everything you would need to do on someone else's dijang can be done from the guest terminal except stock selling
2.) if they DO block you in right at spawn... just leave

[heavy mango]

[frozen summit]

Do conduit manifolds do anything other than being smaller

[storm garnet]

basically, yea

and less building count

[tall tangle]

2 pipes. less running around reconnecting things

[vale topaz]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[rose yoke]

hi, why my water didnt go through when i use pipe splitter?

[tawny ravine]

turn it around

your entry point is on top in this picture im p sure

[quartz pagoda]

yeah

its upside down

and yes, goth chicks are amazing

[rose yoke]

omg im so stupid. i didnt notice that 😭 thank you so much @tawny ravine and @quartz pagoda

[quartz pagoda]

nw, we are all stupid

[quartz pagoda]

"space exploration event" feels like OMV Dijiang tour right now

[hidden hornet]

how bad is it?

[quartz pagoda]

wdym bad?

[hidden hornet]

like layout wise?

or rather layout optimization

[quartz pagoda]

very confusing

cant optimize what i cant understand

feels like looking at an optical illusion

[hidden hornet]

so its really bad then

[quartz pagoda]

does it work?

[heavy mango]

it's not bad if it functions

[hidden hornet]

yes

[quartz pagoda]

if it aint broken, dont fix it

[keen river]

looks fine to me 🤷‍♂️

[quartz pagoda]

it has personality (and it works) so its fine

[heavy mango]

encircled conduit of death and despair

[quartz pagoda]

yeah

[tall tangle]

it's power inefficient

[quartz pagoda]

it makes no sense

[heavy mango]

but consider this:

funni

:)

[quartz pagoda]

show us your AIC production graph thingy, lets see if it works properly cuz it indeed looks power inefficient

[tall tangle]

that too. there are many problems

[heavy mango]

yeeee, don't worry, as long as it works and you got what you wanted, that's great
but if optimising it is your goal, there are MANY things about this design that are problematic

but keep the encircled conduit of death and despair, that one's funny

[quartz pagoda]

also since you can recycle the Innert Xircon Effluent into Xircon Effluent to save on Xiranite, you want to have the batteries and mayyyyybe Heavy Xiranite in the same place

[hidden hornet]

THIS TOOK TOO LONG TO GET SRRY

[spring hatch]

does a bottle of acid do anything like bottle of water or bottle of xiranite or heavy xiranite ?

or is it just straight up useless

[heavy mango]

it does nothing special

you should totally make Hetonite Bottles of Liquid Heavy Xiranite tho

[hidden hornet]

oh wait i forgot to replace my forges

[spring hatch]

does bottle quality matter ?

[heavy mango]

no lol

it's just really expensive to make and its funny

[spring hatch]

i have been using ferrium since i have shit ton of them for no reason

idk why

[tall tangle]

outside of that you're broke with wuling bills, you're running out of power

[spring hatch]

another question can i stuff them in amethyst bottles or does it has to be at least ferrium ?

[heavy mango]

how in the world are you using a theoretical of 480 Xiranite?

[heavy mango]

the jet drone does not care for the type of bottle used

[hidden hornet]

it wasnt power deficient a minute ago something had to have gone wrong give me a minute

[quartz pagoda]

So.... your Hetonite production is kinda low compared to must ppl, but thats just a choice
you lack Xiranite production
your Heavy Xiranite production is basically non-existant
you Xircon production is very very low
you dont have enough Ferrium to produce both types of medicine, you gotta choose
your SC Batteries... welp, im sure you know the problem

[tall tangle]

armor may be

[marble yarrow]

before and after

[heavy mango]

also you're missing an originium mining node somewhere
You should be getting 480 Theoretical Raw Originium

[marble yarrow]

aight, i'll stop at this

[uneven aspen]

purification unit can be used outisde the aic borders?

[heavy mango]

so much room for activity

[marble yarrow]

yes

[uneven aspen]

i wonder if that's a bug or intentional

[marble yarrow]

surely intentional

[uneven aspen]

because input output ports get disabled for the others but i guess piping is different

[marble yarrow]

you can even put reactors outside if it only uses pipes

[dreamy jungle]

put this if facs allow https://enkad.enka.network/?id=B7U8S5q8h8W3F8

[tall tangle]

what's better 1 big gap or many small ones?

[heavy mango]

I think one big gap is the bigger flex...

[marble yarrow]

must be the wind

[marble yarrow]

BRO MY GAME CRASHED WHILE SETTING IT UP

[quartz pagoda]

virus

[heavy mango]

Perlica got in yo pc

[marble yarrow]

crashed at this lmaooo

[dreamy jungle]

[heavy mango]

0 sanity PC

gave up

[keen river]

🦥

[storm garnet]

maygi is showing right now the dev account factory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3myzGIUjU

sandleaf unloader into refinery, oof

(she is finishing the stream now, you can find the showcase about the end of the stream later)

[vale topaz]

[keen river]

even filled the eyes with water for peak immersion 👌

[meager stream]

ready for WW3 💀🗿

[vale topaz]

Nuuuu !!!! 💀

[storm garnet]

so, ready for today?

[keen river]

almost ready for aic event next week 🦥

[meager stream]

continue next step to hetonite part & xircon (brain exploded) 💀🗿

[iron stratus]

is this a correct 22.5/min limiter

[quartz coral]

My auto farming setup

[pale socket]

Where can I find a beginner wuling layout? I just started the region

[crude nebula]

if you only need temporary since you want to rush wuling until the latest update, the bp from simulation is enough imo

ah this should be enough

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465737008017313862

[heavy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-gif-18144996

[crude nebula]

wont they fire all at the same time? like will it ready when next wave spawned?

[quartz coral]

eh kinda?

[tall tangle]

90%

[heavy mango]

They do eventually manage to get outta sync

[quartz coral]

not super consistent but works well nuff

[heavy mango]

its about sending a message.

[crude nebula]

i tested on other essence location, they like overkill the enemy by 2 cannons

[heavy mango]

that just shows that endfield is not afraid to expends resources to ensure the total annihilation of the enemy

[quartz pagoda]

are they really that good? like
from 1 to 10 how afk it is?

[heavy mango]

9 to 10 depending on how many you're willing to place

[keen river]

mostly 10, but you still need to reset the alluvium every 30 seconds

[crude nebula]

and the 15 limits

[quartz pagoda]

what if i place all i can

[quartz coral]

9

[heavy mango]

then the enemy gets to roleplay what it's like to be in an active 380mm orbital HE Barrage

[crude nebula]

its physical damage not fire

[keen river]

it helps that this particular zone has only single hard enemy

everything else dies in two to three hits

[quartz coral]

tidalklast dies in almost a single volley with 15 towers

[keen river]

ye, tideklast has like zero hp

the enemy before it, tidestalk is harder

[quartz coral]

if you can get 3 or more from other players it gets a lot easier

sciel managed to get over 20 at once and that did the trick pretty well

[tall tangle]

i just walk around collecting loot and spam 3 skills (and ults) at preboss

[heavy mango]

Tidalklast the second he spawns in:

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[quartz coral]

the resurrecting bastards are honestly a bigger problem than tidalklast

[crude nebula]

literally every mobs after being born 0.1 sec

[heavy mango]

Endfield has great Healthcare benefits!

[quartz coral]

mortars in etchspace salvage when hypergriff?

[crude nebula]

kuro?

[heavy mango]

deadass I just want a genuine tower defense mode

[quartz coral]

i was just from the pgr server

[keen river]

given how this game is essentailly a sequel to a tower defense game..

i have no idea why tower def part is so ass and only happens few times

[tall tangle]

with tanking and healing like og?

[crude nebula]

i just hope they add endless repeat mode for fun, maybe like IS in the AKOG, the prize is just upgrade item like usual

[heavy mango]

The towers do have health, so I can see it happen...
No clue how theyre gonna explain a tower that repairs other towers

[marble yarrow]

event wen

[heavy mango]

but yeah, like Amelek said, I like what we have so far, it's just that still pretty shallow...

[crude nebula]

maybe the HP regen every 5 sec after not getting damage for 5 sec?

[keen river]

well, small drones are everywhere in this game, just stick a wrench to it and let it repair stuff

could be like a landing pad sort of thing

[heavy mango]

truuuue, imagine one of the cute little DELTA-Bots having a little welder or wrench

[atomic maple]

well that was a disaster

[crude nebula]

new r tools to fix tower

[heavy mango]

that red dude skipped a few pipes...

neat idea tho

[keen river]

one way or another, i hope they expand the tower defense mode

allow us to place towers closer to each other, add some sort of wall unit

[atomic maple]

yeah no idea why or how this didn't work

[keen river]

and add top down view mode..

[atomic maple]

im guesisng the game didn't like switching color too fast

[heavy mango]

honestly, I hope the tower defense gets genuinely hard modes where it's a mix of needing to build a strong defense as well as needing to fight manually
forcing you to do both at once, maintaining your backline while actively running around and defending sounds incredibly fun

right now Operator Intervention is incredibly easy because the level cap is still so abysmally low

[keen river]

tbh

[tall tangle]

aint gonna happen. it's not designed for that mode at all unfort

[keen river]

i think its not too hard to improve what we have

[heavy mango]

can we add copium as an AIC Product

[keen river]

its just that the way it currently works is super half baked and just not super fun

you have way too few towers, and also tower budget is count based

and on top of that the maps you def on are sort of mediocre too

[heavy mango]

well we're getting CC so... hey, who knows what they'll cook with it
seeing a CC based around the tower defense might be fun

[tall tangle]

just shred and inhale originium. it's faster

[keen river]

the cc towers are also bit eeh

its unfortunate because there is definitely a lot of potential in this

they just need to do a bit better job

[heavy mango]

2.0 copium

[keen river]

especially this tower is really mediocre

[heavy mango]

-# i was referring to contingency contract, not crowd control

[keen river]

ah

[heavy mango]

[keen river]

yeah, maybe this will do

also, there is no top down view and some maps are relatively big (particularly the science park outpost) and its hard to see what happens 🙁

[tall tangle]

balance is too whaky for towed def. TD games are designed to be TD from the get go. turning endfield into dungeon defenders would require devs to ditch story and character making for like half of a year atleast

[heavy mango]

i dunno, Genshin could do it

their TD event back when I played was pretty solid!

simple, sure, but still a fun little brain tickler, especially in co-op

[keen river]

i dont think thats really the case honestly, i think it would be perfectly integrable here

there is no need to even reuse character skills from usual game in TD mode, if you do characters as towers like OG AK did

having some TD could also allow some factory backend for it, that could be cool

like producing stun/slow items or ammo for some high tier towers

well, we are only like two months into endfield, they have plenty of time to cook something in future

[heavy mango]

I’d love love LOVE to see needing to build an ammunition production line to feed certain bigger towers

But for now it’s all just hopium

[quartz coral]

I'm also of the opinion that it's only going to be used by like 1% of the playerbase if that's the case

resource is tight as it is

maybe instead of manufacturing, we have to purchase it in stock redistribution?

let's say 100k wuling stock creds for about 10 farming cycles worth of ammunition

[keen river]

well, could be even both

buy or make somehow

or even get some as reward for farming TD modes

[quartz coral]

and to automate that, we would need to somehow move the ammunition from the AIC to the tower automatically

Like a depot unloader but you can place it anywhere maybe?

i think the biggest issue right now is definitely the lack of resources

[keen river]

you could have stuff like some sort of resource hub/depot and then build ziplines between it and towers

[quartz coral]

in satisfactory, if you lack resources, you can just find more. here? strictly limited

[keen river]

TD mode would need to happen in some restricted zones anyway, like it does now

few resource and little build space, yep

[tall tangle]

but infinite

[compact frigate]

[molten patrol]

I actually forgot the fluid supply unit exist man, all this time I'm trying to put the acid from purification unit back to the reactor, because i thought that i couldn't get rid of it, then i remember that i could just dump it back to the acid source, that shit is blocking my sewage water in my main base because the cuprium is full

[frigid dirge]

all 6 depost just to make one hec comp?

[keen river]

satisfactory resources do work a lot like endfield ones, its the Factorio that has truly infinite resources to grab

just the endfield has way too few resource nodes

and then you cant even properly exploit all of them because ratios are whack

[tall tangle]

manifold is a little overkill there

[quartz coral]

i'm not saying it needs to be infinite, allow us to upgrade the resources so that it's enough to make 1-2 full capacity lines of ebvery relevant product

[keen river]

im also curious how endfield will evolve from here

like what next region will offer etc

[frigid dirge]

mars?

[tall tangle]

hoping for less depressing grenade throwing minigames

[keen river]

😅

at least remove the cooldown from grenades, its such an poinless thing

[heavy mango]

[stands at the start]
[presses R off cooldown]
[200 oroberyl :) ]

[quartz coral]

hoping for large scale transfer between regions

[heavy mango]

let me build a fucken monorail between valley IV and wuling

[marble yarrow]

-# (1152 limit i need more research though)

[tall tangle]

i kinda want currency exchange between regions to resurrect rotting corpse of v4 instead

[quartz coral]

yes

[heavy mango]

but yeah, the events so far don't really feel like events... I'd rather they take more time between individual events that have more substance, rather than pushing something every other week that could realistically be done in an hour and has 0 replay value

[quartz coral]

the events are at best filler events in something like zenless

[heavy mango]

-# i was really hoping to go on a spacewalk with perli ngl

-# let her teach me about talos-II among the stars

duuuude imagine an AIC factory in space... on like an asteroid...

[quartz coral]

and we really need more puzzle variety

[tall tangle]

without an ability to see gas giant nearby from aboard spaceship...

[heavy mango]

we parked a bit weirdly....

[heavy mango]

what do you mean? pointing and clicking your jet drone is high octance brain tickling!

[quartz coral]

i mean the damn jigsaw

[heavy mango]

like I get it... they can't make stuff too hard or the average gacha gamer will get stuck trying to open a door or whatever...
but if they can make Hetonite this interesting, surely we can go past the poor puzzle design

[tall tangle]

for some hetonite is ctrl+c ctrl+v

thanks blueprints

[quartz coral]

hsr has multiple puzzles for each region for example

just saying

they don't have to be hard

just needs variety

[heavy mango]

flashbacks to the genshin electro cubes in Inazuma

those were interesting at times

[covert agate]

I just realized there is a separate building limit around area immediately outside of the sub-AIC area , for King's flat , you can only have 50 AIC stuff outside

[quartz coral]

penacony 3D rooms, amphoreus time travel puzzles

lmao

[marble yarrow]

main aic free limit check

[heavy mango]

the endmin glazing will never not be funny

like what do you mean no one ever thought to plug this shit into the power outlet?

[quartz coral]

are we deadass the only person to have a portable watergun in wuling when you need it for every other mechanism?

[marble yarrow]

i can only place no more than 46 facilities, 11 pipe logistics, and 30 belt&pipes in wuling city

[heavy mango]

it's so funny to me because from a genuinely mechanical engineering standpoint...
you just need a tall person to spin the fucking thing with their hands, you dont even need the fucking jet drone

[quartz coral]

oh yeah this xiranite tower? uhhh just follow the instructions?

[heavy mango]

just use your damn hands, all it needs is rotational force

[keen river]

this whole segment of main story was so weird tbh

[quartz coral]

like fr once the aic was set up you'd expect everyone and their neighbours to wipe out the blighted zones with xiranite water

[covert agate]

come on guys, they dumb down the gameplay, realistically, endmin might have to go through olympic-level of math or smth

[heavy mango]

the game assumes the user is really stupid, but wants you to feel smart... to the people who ARENT stupid, the disconnect is quite jarring

[quartz coral]

Kinda I guess? But at the same time, the physical mechanisms in the world are just so simple

it isn't some representation

[heavy mango]

it's one of those things where you kinda need to suspend your disbelief HARD

[keen river]

it would make more sense if we had to hack the thingies

instead we bash them with sword for some reason

[heavy mango]

which somehow no one has thought of that the thing that is directly aligned with the big waterpipe might be able to be turned

[keen river]

yeah

the extra jarring part was that this whole thing was some sort of revelation to the stockaders

so weird

[heavy mango]

AS A MATTER OF FACT

Its not JUST directly aligned!

[quartz coral]

they've used these their whole lives btw

[heavy mango]

IT IS WIRED UP

[fallen raft]

how do i get where the golden zipline is?

[heavy mango]

continue exploration

that is zone 3

[severe grove]

YESSS THE FACTORY CONTINUES TO GROW

[heavy mango]

you might not yet have it unlocked

[keen river]

some of those ziplines are bit out of the way, particularly in zone 2 and 3 if i recall

but now that we have a map, it shouldnt be that hard to find them

[heavy mango]

yeah, given where your quest markers are, you just haven't unlocked that zone yet

so just keep at it

[heavy mango]

[tall tangle]

in terms of puzzles and gamemodes etchspace was not too bad actually, but grew too slowly and design vise is just a soup of everything which is weird

[solid quiver]

what is strongest combat facility combo now?

[heavy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-gif-18144996

[solid quiver]

guess mortar all the way

[heavy mango]

honestly I'd have preferred it if there were actual stakes to it, "make it to a safe zone to extract or lose your stuff"

[keen river]

i think etchspace was one of better contents they did overall

especially if you progressed it as you leveled your team

[heavy mango]

it definitely has potential

[keen river]

a lot to explore, a lot to find

all the ziplines or shortcuts you can unlock too

but yeah, it grew sort of slowly

[heavy mango]

I liked the concept of needing to navigate efficiently to make the best use of my limited time

[keen river]

and now its suddenly over

[quartz coral]

it kind of feels like a trial for a bigger mode

[keen river]

i especially liked that some stuff persisted so each run would be slightly different

[quartz coral]

like how into the pale wasteland was trial for lemnian hollow

[keen river]

unlock some gate, unlock some zipline, unlock some vertical zipline etc

or even in the zone 6 you can start flamers and kill the boss instead of redoing second phase

👍

[tall tangle]

science quest girl hinted that it's not over

[keen river]

yeah

guess we might get a second iteration of it

probably using wuling assets

[tall tangle]

or pac unit in AU

[sonic summit]

guys will this priority pass works? it will make originum box before origicrust box right ?

[heavy mango]

"Originium Woods?"

"..."

"So you're saying they're minable."

[tall tangle]

no. warfarin sits there and kicks everyone out

[spice needle]

How do I boost Xiranite production? I’m using Kyo’s base blueprints and I still haven’t been able to make heavy xiranite. Help a dumbass out

[fringe oasis]

Can this be compressed?

[true path]

How do you solve this? If i put more than one treatment facility it takes all the sewage until i eventually run out which causes my sc wuling batts to run out and basically stop producing batts which leads to no power but if i dont put more than one treatment facility the refining units cloggeds up and reduces the production of syringe a from 6/m to 3/m

[fringe oasis]

All of this is the backend so I can simply just...

[twilit shard]

Yes

[heavy mango]

your belt lines are needlessly long

[fringe oasis]

So it fits in a perfect rectangle or however much space it takes, without overflow

[tall tangle]

1 copium = 1 waste = 1 xircon setup

treat excess separately

[heavy mango]

youre blocking yourself from placing your power pylon between the modules
right now youre making this thing 2 tiles longer than it needs to be by having your power pylon squeeyed between the seed maker and planting unit

[twilit shard]

This good for the non water plants if making carbon

[fringe oasis]

oh yeah right, the inbetween space. I'm blind xd

[heavy mango]

those two tiles go a long way

[marble yarrow]

do some cursed planters

[twilit shard]

I play too much factorio

[heavy mango]

what on talos-ii am i looking at here...

[fringe oasis]

I'm trying to mentally math out the amount of planters and seeders needed for a 2 grinding unit output

[twilit shard]

At least it’s not Josh’s abomination

[marble yarrow]

ultimate fit

[twilit shard]

Look at my setup

[heavy mango]

as im, how many sand leaf modules you need to sustain 2 grinders for dense originium?

[fringe oasis]

Carbon. For the Xiranite prod.

[twilit shard]

For 1 xiranite, 3 plantars and 2 seed pickers

If water plant

[fringe oasis]

Cuz 1 shredder outputs 2 carbon powder

[cyan forge]

How do i split a belt to 4/5 efficiency?

[twilit shard]

And 1 water plant is 2 carbon

[fringe oasis]

Aha

So instead of 1:1 for land plants

Gotcha lemme map it out

[twilit shard]

Yes

[heavy mango]

I am a water plant hater, sue me

[tall tangle]

24/30?

[twilit shard]

This is inefficient use water plants bro

[heavy mango]

fuck water plants

i hate water plants for no particular reason whatsoever

and I refuse to use them

[twilit shard]

Bro would rather use buck capsules

Fym

[cyan forge]

Yeh

[keen river]

water plants is 4x as efficient as land plant per planting unit

use them for sure

[fringe oasis]

[heavy mango]

just dont get hit

[twilit shard]

EXACTLY

[fringe oasis]

Aight lemme...

[zenith phoenix]

Errrrr idk how to feel abt it

[heavy mango]

ITS ABOUT SENDING A MESSAGE

[fringe oasis]

comparamentalize the AIC like a motherboard

[tall tangle]

have no ready so;ution, but can cook setup in some time

[fringe oasis]

Plant prod here, Xiranite there, DRAM and then the CPU and GPU

[cyan forge]

I can wait, i was thinking of copying a design for tmr anw

[fringe oasis]

I'm overproducing electricity atm since I'm using Valley 4 batteries

[tall tangle]

i'll be big and bad. sorry in advance^^

[leaden drift]

512 facility limit hurts

[marble yarrow]

👨‍🍳

[heavy mango]

look if you wanna know the real reason why i REFUSE to use water plants.........
i just like red better, so i wanna use buckflower...

[cyan forge]

I was thinking splitter

3 > 2, 1 into facility & 1 loader.

But that's like 25

[keen river]

im impressed they manged to cook a facility limit so low it manages to hurt you even with limited resources AND limited aic size

[cyan forge]

Not round 24

[leaden drift]

I still have so much room in my factory too

[keen river]

isnt yahnze red tho?

[heavy mango]

NOT RED ENOUGH

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[keen river]

i see

[leaden drift]

I think i could get some facility limit back by moving my sandleaf producers

Im also probs gonna stop making the lower tier meds for a while

Making so much xircon atm cleaning up my stores

[twilit shard]

This is why I have a blueprint for sandleaf and nothing else

[meager stream]

but the liquid produced are lightgreen color (2 yazen powder + wotah using crucible) 😅

[keen river]

well, apple is also red but apple juice is yellowish

[tall tangle]

i came to conclusion that you cant flush 1.0 out from 25 mathematically. not sure if i'm correct

[fringe oasis]

Oh yeah this is more efficient

I still need one of the sandleafs for the grinding unit

But the rectangle has shrunk

[cyan forge]

Elaborate

[keen river]

you can only divide by two and three and use some recursive fractions

[tall tangle]

we can only divide by 2 or 3. and with several tries i hit the wall of not being able to divide on anithing else

[keen river]

it doesnt seem likely you can do 30 -> 24

[cyan forge]

Mm yeah

[meager stream]

sandlif izz 👑 , every grindd need him 😌

[cyan forge]

I mean there's a way

[dark cipher]

Where can this put this extra acid at?

[cyan forge]

I'll just test run it tmr

Kekw

[tall tangle]

specifically /5 would make things possible

and easy

[meager stream]

use condults & field supply unit to bring it back to its acid pond, or using converger pipe to other tracks

[cyan forge]

Yep

U can play with converger to slow the output

I'll prolly test that tmr

[fervent lodge]

5 is achievable if it's an output of a wide building

[cyan forge]

[keen river]

some sort of back feed might work but eh

i feel its going to be massive

[twilit shard]

Wanna make xiranite? Sandleaf.
Wanna make batteries? Sandlef.
Wanna make xiranite component? MORE Sandleaf.

Moral of the story? Sandleaf is god.

[keen river]

might be a good idea to ask this to some math subreddit or stackoverflow tbh

[tall tangle]

thats is extra steps tho. kinda expensive

[dark cipher]

What unit does that

[iron stratus]

supply

[dark cipher]

Oh

[drifting matrix]

Hi everyone, is there a guide to what I should have in my endgame factory? I think I'm good with my Valley IV factory, but want to optimize my Wuling AIC. I don't want blueprints since that takes the fun out of it, but I want kind of like a guide on how many items I should be aiming for

[dark cipher]

I’m slow

lol

[cyan forge]

Not rly, it should be doable w 2 splitter+1 converger

[twilit shard]

It’s a whole electrical equation that is dumb and stupid and I’m not doing that math

[meager stream]

lets build core/sub pac with full sandleaf 😂

[twilit shard]

It’s not space efficient either

[cyan forge]

Yeah we don't gottado that anw

[fervent lodge]

ima be real, i'm just making 2 batteries and 1 yazhen and it's still enough to buy out the entire 2 outposts

you want hetonite stuff for new turrets and new gear though, if not for selling it to outposts

that means making heavy xiranite

[drifting matrix]

yeah there's so many steps for heavy xiranite lol

[twilit shard]

Hetonite is really expensive to make isn’t it?

[drifting matrix]

I guess I need to sit down and plan the factory

[fervent lodge]

not that many tbh, just effluent and xiranite

[meager stream]

but lower price than sc wuling xD

[magic steppe]

if im correct the max neutral yield of hetonite is 22 a minute, is the last 2 im missing just due to clogging?

[twilit shard]

It’s so stupid

I HATE it

[cyan forge]

They don't use the same ingredients

[meager stream]

hetonite part costs 48, sc wuling costs 54, also that battery available to both outpost

[cyan forge]

It's expensive cos it's just more scarce rn

[twilit shard]

Yeah

[cyan forge]

Like we don't even have enuf cupri to run peak efficiency heto production

[frigid dirge]

what did i miss

[meager stream]

but the main problem is originium mining for batteries

[cyan forge]

I think u need 200 cupri/min To get peak efficiency heto production kicking

[frigid dirge]

well it's 240

[iron spoke]

if that's truly the problem just steal from valley 4

[cyan forge]

Ok 240

[meager stream]

4 forgesky, 1 crucible & 1 expanded, for producing 12/m 🔥

[cyan forge]

Ew, moving orig from v4

That's so much work

[meager stream]

5 xircon & 20 originium dense 🥲

[frigid dirge]

no just transfering it with 1k5 per hour 💔

[iron spoke]

I hate it too I think I'm just going to repurpose another forge to heavy xiratnite to burn extra base xiranite

[cyan forge]

1.2k

[cyan forge]

Wha

[frigid dirge]

1k5 is max

[cyan forge]

Oh amw8

Rite

[fringe oasis]

Not sure I need this much carbon prod but I did streamline it now

[iron spoke]

carbon keeps randomly clogging in one of my forges anyway so losing that surplus isn't really a thing if I actually wanna play factory every day

[frigid dirge]

2 for one xiranite so depend on how much u using it

[meager stream]

"factory must grooo" 🗿💀

[magic steppe]

is it possible to cram literally everything in the pre 12 forge factory into the main aic assuming you use bottles for the acid?

[fringe oasis]

I have 2 Xiranite forges... so... I just need 2 for now xD

[magic steppe]

ive nearly managed it but ultimately couldnt fit the last sandleaf and yazhen planters

[iron spoke]

do yall bottle heavy xirafluid at all?

[fringe oasis]

The last one is just filling depot I guess

[fervent lodge]

i bottled like 100 for quests

[iron spoke]

made like 500 but dunno what to spray lol

[ancient wagon]

I'm trying to play the main story and my wifi went out on me :(

[tall tangle]

@cyan forge every subdivision imaginable have simple multiplier of 5. that or you get 10/3 situation. summs cant solve that, need math outside of logistics available
30 - 10 - 5 - 2.5 - 1.25 - 0.625 - 0.3125

[ancient wagon]

What does this even mean

[meager stream]

super blight xD

[tall tangle]

math. ignore it

[fringe oasis]

Yep, maxed out. I'm still lvl 3 Wuling

[meager stream]

brain isnt braining xD

[ancient wagon]

Haven't even started wuling production :(

[frigid dirge]

so what first did we do in wuling base tho

[fringe oasis]

My heaviest Wuling producer atm is... uhh Valley 4 batteries

[frigid dirge]

i didn't remember

oh making xiranite comp

that was pain full at start

[fringe oasis]

I'll offload Wuling batteries and Valley 4 batteries. The Valley 4 batteries to produce power for the AIC. The Wuling batteries to do stock trade only

[heavy mango]

wait, why is KAD screaming at me for this when it works ingame?

[fringe oasis]

Lemme look at the production tree for the wuling batteries

[ancient wagon]

I use my batteries in valley 4 for power and trade :))

[fervent lodge]

clogged downstream of refining units

[fringe oasis]

I mean yeah if you're in Valley 4

That's just it

[keen river]

its clogged downstream, it only says OK when whole chain works

also you should have two belts fro each refining unit

so this might be the case

[ancient wagon]

I THINK ITS WULING FACTORY TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[heavy mango]

oh shit you rite

what the fuck am I doing

derp

[meager stream]

need 1 more planting (1 for looping, 1 for processing other mats)

[keen river]

nah, its fine with wuling plants

[fallen badge]

What's current max yield of cuprium atm?

[keen river]

they make 2 from each seed

so you need only one planter

[frigid dirge]

uh what, i just go away and so many new stuff appear

[heavy mango]

yeah my dumbass forgot that the refiner makes two carbon powder

so that was the error

[frigid dirge]

well with jincao we have 4